#fury

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coarse nest
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Am thane you wouldn’t have BS talented

buoyant salmon
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blow up

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i have heroic dungeon skarmorak shard

tidal kindle
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Wanna do +8s with my rodent dk?

buoyant salmon
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can i bring a 578 dh

frail trout
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Anyone else becoming a dumbo dragon tomorrow

proud leaf
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is there any reason to?

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last i remember seeing they nerfed the racials so hard they're not worth it anymore

rotund ginkgo
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frost dk

spare steppe
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Is Archi going to write a wowhead article on the changes

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I’m seeing so many articles but none for warriors!

obsidian siren
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looking at the BiS list on Wowhead, it says the Charged Claymore is our BIS offhand, but the Everforged Greataxe has higher max damage, wouldn't that make it better, or does the higher minimum damage push the Charged Claymore ahead of the Greataxe?

median dust
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Make spear targetable. Increase its AOE range by 2 yards.
Allow Meat Cleaver to gain 4 and 6 stacks.
6% reck proc rate when landing a critical strike with bloodbath on main target.

bitter palm
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all crafted weapons are the same

proud leaf
bitter palm
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average damage is what matters

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and its the same

obsidian siren
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ooh, i see

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shit was NOT the same when last i remember 😅

blissful delta
spare steppe
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Like the rogue one got published today

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shamans had one last week etc

sullen dove
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(deserved)

buoyant salmon
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tragic new patek

blissful delta
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Ah, my bad. Ask him, 🙂

radiant plank
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There is no changes

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to write thoughts about

blissful delta
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Critcake did a wonderful video you could check out 🙂

median dust
spare steppe
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@edgy widget are you going to be writing a feedback article like the other classes have received for the 11.0.5 changes?

dusk schooner
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is this channel still alive? fury dead bruh reroll

spare steppe
heavy folio
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simming higher than 2/2 armored?

edgy widget
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you would what would sim even better? Dual Wield and 2/2 Armored

heavy folio
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it's ovinax specfic with roar cd

vague copper
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Ôô

radiant plank
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ahhh

edgy widget
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Ovinax Uproar builds already used Dual Wield spec instead of 2/2 Armored

radiant plank
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u can play 45s

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for adds

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and 2/2 for boss dam

willow cradle
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It's a free 5%

edgy widget
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Dual Wield is always better than a second point in Armored

heavy folio
edgy widget
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there's no build in TWW that's ever not recommended taking DW spec

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Armored is less than 5% damage per point (usually closer to 4, but it varies a bit)
but more importantly, a second point in Armored is additive value, while DWSpec is an extra multiplier

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just because someone was successful doing something doesn't necessarily mean that thing is what led them to success (aka correlation != causation)

glad kite
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hey! a bit new to fury, is there anything wrong with macroing Reck + Avatar together? 🙂

edgy widget
# spare steppe <@61282228017041408> are you going to be writing a feedback article like the oth...

na, the changes look scary, but aside from nerf outrage, they frankly aren't that big for Warriors

  • Odyn's Fury and Thunderous Roar (direct) damage takes a hit in larger pulls and raid fights with lots of adds; Fury is still going to be really good for Rasha'nan, Broodkeeper, and Queen, just not quite as good anymore
  • vs 8 targets, OF and Roar (initial hit only) lose ~20% damage, +/- ~0.2% per target; this sounds like a lot, but OF and Roar's initial hit aren't your biggest damage contributions
  • estimate ~3-5% overall damage loss on those raid fights and Mythic+, +/- depending on the size and frequency of pulls - most dungeons don't actually pull >5 targets that often, though some more than others
sullen hound
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quick question about mad queen's mandate: use on cooldown? use during recklessness? delay second use until 3rd recklessness is up?

jade ocean
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But the question is: why nerf more class with low Dps, low survivability and not useful utility?

unreal onyx
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I am still wondering how blizz is still going through with the nerfs

radiant plank
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they forgor

unreal onyx
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when frost DKs exist

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and ret getting a buff?

sudden thicket
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do you think there's a thane play on ovinax with the extra burst from clap making up for the small loss in burst of roar+of
would need to pool charges every other set though

narrow narwhal
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Parasites have to die very fast

edgy widget
half cargo
heavy dock
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im still surprised all the top performing classes are getting solid buffs

slender stratus
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our time will shine

half cargo
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You had your 2 weeks already

heavy dock
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next season for sure

half cargo
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Wait for Fated

obsidian siren
heavy dock
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df s2 is where fury was fun again

obsidian siren
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oh s4 when it doesnt matter

heavy dock
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and good imo

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atleast for me

slender stratus
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just believe T_T

heavy dock
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i was

smoky vale
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yeah bro

heavy dock
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until i saw frost dk is getting a what? 8% buff

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;d

smoky vale
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i love reck being worthles

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s

slender stratus
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has it always been like this for warriors every xpac?

heavy dock
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in the ones i played

half cargo
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Pretty much

heavy dock
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arms was better the first season

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and fury caught up by the end

acoustic coyote
heavy dock
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thats what i hard

half cargo
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Once in a blue moon the stars align and you get a nyalotha or sanctum if you're arms

heavy dock
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iirc

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idk i hate arms

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i am a man of 2 big swords

half cargo
slender stratus
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arms is cool

obsidian siren
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dragon soul was good for Arms

half cargo
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Holy

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Reaching into the history books for that one

heavy dock
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i played arms back the, but i was also like 12

obsidian siren
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and by that i mean, Fury was just troll

heavy dock
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so i obv didnt do much well

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i hope we have some useable gear from brd

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would be funny if hoj made a comeback lol

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but with how little basic attacks matter in retail i do doubt it

next canopy
gusty compass
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A question

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Is it a bad idea to have us as PI target on Broodtwister mythic?

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Or is it a big waste

next canopy
cold silo
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Seems like a fair number are switching from Slayer to Mountain Thane for mythic +, what do you think?

gusty hazel
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Imho thane has a more fun non-cd rotation

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slayer is all drop cd's, then /yawn for 90 seconds, go again

smoky vale
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fury clappa 😴 prot clappa xan

edgy widget
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on the other hand, Thane is also more involved; the gameplay is more hectic and not as smooth as Slayer

gusty compass
edgy widget
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Warrior is not a particularly good PI target, no

orchid verge
smoky vale
edgy widget
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I'll believe that when I see it

orchid verge
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Meanwhile warriors and warlocks wallowing in the shit

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getting nerfs

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still

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🙂

feral ivy
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hows everything archimtiros from the hurricane?

idle ember
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would appreciate any help 💟

narrow narwhal
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622 ilvl, an 8

gilded pawn
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the trick to parsing high is to have a higher ilevel

errant parrot
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Using the Transmitter, I saw Archimitros recommending using it before cds. I am using it with Recklessness. Other than wasting some seconds on recklessness, is there some other reason using it before recklessness? Is the dmg gain that insane? I am pre popping it on raid encounters before pull.

narrow narwhal
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Because you need prep time to do the task

tidal kindle
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I found dps (you)

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Find healer/tank/dps 3 ty

smoky vale
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let me get an eu

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ill play

eager thorn
south kayak
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imagine nerfing fury and letting all the top dps without any nerfs

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they're even getting buffed

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this tier has the worst balance in a long time

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10 years probably

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Awful tuning

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Whoever is doing that needs to be fired

smoky vale
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find new rage bait

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fury is fine

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🙂

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(im baiting)

south kayak
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This should be getting more traction, we should be spamming everywhere about this dogshit tuning

dapper goblet
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shut up noob box

south kayak
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fuck off

dapper goblet
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one boss he says

south kayak
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This doesn't matter

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The issue is nerfing us over and over while the top dps are getting off free

normal bane
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then when rashanan adds get changed again they'll be back towards the top

south kayak
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Fury is good in the raid but outside of the raid it's just way worse than like 10 specs

smoky vale
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warrior is fine

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🙂

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@dapper goblet are the shaman changes pog

south kayak
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Rather be good in single target and most fights than add fights and shit that dies in a second

frozen tartan
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Quick, everyone cherry pick something to prove your point!

dapper goblet
smoky vale
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which are pog

near wing
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Id rather be useful in M+….

smoky vale
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you wont be

dapper goblet
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a lot of them

south kayak
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yeah honestly fuck burst aoe

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delete that

near wing
smoky vale
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then reroll

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go mage

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evoker

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dk

arctic raft
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Tuning this season is pretty shit across the board, even ignoring the dps warrior stuff

normal bane
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an irrelevant mini game

arctic raft
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Like how are dps DKs untouched? Ret?

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Then there’s m+ healer balance…

near wing
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I really couldn’t care less about raid. I do it to check the box. Only content I find engaging with the right level of competition is M+

eager thorn
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Its being nerfed on reset

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If ur gonna doom at least do it right smh

teal pine
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Yea man dk isn’t untouched either don’t be ridiculous

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It’s getting buffed 10%

eager thorn
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Lucky dks

normal bane
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riders is getting buffed

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which frost doesn't play

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unholy though....

teal pine
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Riders isn’t changed

slim grotto
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do we have any idea how long s1 is?

normal bane
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i thought it was riders

teal pine
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Db is buffed

idle ember
next canopy
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Do you get anything for doing tier 9,10,11 delves?

near wing
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Because of gear creep, probably is low now

summer quail
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did something change in sims for transmitter? it sims way higher for me than before

eager thorn
idle ember
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i thought it normalized for ilvl too

normal bane
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if anyone actually looks at m+ parses they should be banned on the spot

near wing
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I just do it to show off the only 99s I can get

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Lolol

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Sad

eager thorn
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I mean its essentially the same as checking someones rio timed keys

dapper goblet
normal bane
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we could even just go arms for those 2 st fights

sullen dove
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we do

normal bane
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i feel like the ppl who complain like that are die hard fury one tricks

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so they probably don't

dapper goblet
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aka swordish

sullen dove
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and ajnt nobody gaf about fury single target, just the aoe keeps getting nerfed and overshadowed by other classes getting their shit buffed

sullen dove
marsh agate
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Arms st for 2 bosses in raid worth it without a second arms optimized gear set?

gilded pawn
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yes

sullen dove
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I mean my “arms set” currently is like 1 other piece

marsh agate
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Thanks 👍🏻

night relic
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My arms set is my fury set

dapper goblet
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swordish so helpful

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yellow name when

feral ivy
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i cant find 1 info about the lvling boost for tomorrow.. anyone know how much % we will get?

snow radish
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hey, i play normaly tank but in raid fury, can i have some pro tipps where my fuck ups are?

limpid mango
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hello new to fury and trying to master it and wondering what my fury dps log breakdown should looks like or order of my damage should be at the end of keys?

dapper goblet
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lets get a server mute on madox

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perma

tidal kindle
sullen dove
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Where bazeface yellow

unreal onyx
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where roidstack yellow

dapper goblet
tidal kindle
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Yes

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Was a banger

sudden tusk
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The spice has flown for too long

dapper goblet
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k i dont have it anymore

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gotta find it

sullen dove
devout matrix
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Anyone know why Heavy Hitter in Siege would randomly be one-shotting melee when a ranged exists and is alive?

buoyant salmon
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@dapper goblet cant argue with fdreaks

queen linden
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Tomorrows the day deadge It's been real

heavy flax
jade cipher
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guys

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does human racial give bonus from everything? lust, pi, keystone buff etc?

eager thorn
queen linden
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Bet

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omw

narrow narwhal
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Slightly more boss damage on ovinax

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Look at the bright side guys

fast mural
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maybe you get a trinket in vault thats a 2% upgrade copium its gonna be fine

dapper goblet
crystal musk
inner shadow
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omfg

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4m,il

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4milhpo

smoky vale
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hahaha

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have fun on that fight

sullen dove
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eh I mean pretty ez if not playing with baboons

frank dawn
sullen dove
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honestly p2 grips most lethal thing on that shit now I’d say, if monkey brain tryina commit to killing an add or something or ppl don’t click bridge in time

normal bane
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go dracthyr tomorrow and double jump it

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i think you cna

sullen dove
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The people being dead for p1 soaks big w

normal bane
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can, easy fight

teal pine
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I was in the trenches on heroic queen

smoky vale
teal pine
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Playing with friends that were like 610 max

normal bane
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tbh

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p1 and p3 are cool

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p2 is a glorified intermission that they can't call an intermission

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because you just had one before it

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and 2 back to back intermissions wouldn't look good

calm island
jade cipher
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guys can anyone with good knowledge on the subject please enlighten me on how human racial works? does it affect cds and shit

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pi, lust,

sullen dove
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probably not and I highly doubt it matters in any capacity

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racial sims probably would take it into account if it was a thing

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getting 15.3% haste vs 15% haste in a pi is not that much of a game changer

smoky vale
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also there are better pi targets than warrior

warm crag
charred panther
warm crag
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hunters can be humans shrug

charred panther
jade cipher
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i just want to know how it fundamentally works

teal pine
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Idk the wording on human racial but it probably only affects the raw value right

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Not the %

smoky vale
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it's not 2% add to the stats percentage you can see on your toon inventory. it adds up to the amount of said stat. for exemple, if you have 40% of crit strike chance, it will not be 42%. Let say 40% is about 6k crit, then you will have 6,120 crit as a human thanks to this racial. (as in dragonflight, it's roughly less than 1%)

warm crag
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dont quote me on it but i think any items that give you +x haste just give you +x * 1.humanracial instead

smoky vale
inner shadow
warm crag
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rolled by the rogue

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go next

open prairie
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i keep forgetting dragons come out tomorrow

short cobalt
warm crag
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good for them

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r/wownoob

inner shadow
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and fuckin mechanics

short cobalt
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That’s nuts!!

warm crag
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wtf is crystal

smoky vale
inner shadow
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after add died

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first kill

smoky vale
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was a turbo disaster

eager thorn
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The bridge crystals?

inner shadow
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the big adds bro

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the big spiders

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leave crystals

rustic ferry
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eyyoo, are you guys rolling mountain thane or slayer atm? How big is the difference?

inner shadow
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thane

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op af

open prairie
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isnt slayer in raid better

inner shadow
inner shadow
open prairie
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i mean

inner shadow
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actual last pull

open prairie
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prot andy in dungeons

inner shadow
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1 dh on final killl

rustic ferry
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yikes O_O

inner shadow
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death*

rustic ferry
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hc or mythic?

neon violet
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Looks like heroic cause of the dps

rustic ferry
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true that

forest ginkgo
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Aint no way mythic ansurek has 2.8 mil

ornate gust
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Finally Broodtwister is dead

forest ginkgo
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So heroic

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Ur in for a treat, ky'veza is really fun

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but hits like fuk

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You get a super hard hitting dash on you if ur targeted and then the dot eats you up

dull compass
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So I have been running RA for a while now. Should I try out AM?

sullen dove
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you still hit boss for the same amount of time

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there’s just another dot on you

inner shadow
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i had to leap

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AWAYYYYYYY

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for the further ones

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cuz dh died

sullen dove
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tell a lazy ass ranged to get it tf

inner shadow
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yeah well u gotta do shit urself

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Sometimes

mossy fox
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@oblique trail rolled

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i forgot to swap to caster boss after the charge guy's damage amp was done

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and i also didn't have monk buff so gg

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i suck

honest karma
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Thane or slayer?

sudden tusk
honest karma
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On court @mossy fox

mossy fox
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thaned

honest karma
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Cool

frank dawn
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arcane mage buffed by 11% LULLMAO

honest karma
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Just started myhtic prog. Is it worth going arms on any bosses? Gear optimized for fury.

edgy ingot
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Is this a joke or ?

fickle bluff
edgy ingot
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FDK and Arcane getting buffed why we literally get nothing deadge

south kayak
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Arcane buffed by 11%

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Gg blizzard

forest owl
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that number for frost dk surely has to be wrong?

south kayak
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Idiot moment

rich sapphire
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frost is giga and geting buffed??

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woooooot

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?

frosty ibex
frank dawn
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don't worry guys, the beta test will end sometime in January 2025

forest owl
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looks like the unsub button is getting hit sooner than expected

buoyant salmon
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told u guys frost dk is getting buffed

sudden tusk
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@tidal kindle oi

slim coral
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What is wrong with these devs

tidal kindle
rich sapphire
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wtf litteraly best dps in hight m+ keys right now

south kayak
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They’re stupid

rich sapphire
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and getting buffed xD

south kayak
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Idiots

teal pine
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Poor souls just finding out

feral ivy
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i knew as soon the post came and i saw the buffs/nerfs ppl on here will be going off

sudden tusk
shell wigeon
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They redesigned the hero tree don’t think their first goal was give frost more dam, but then again 🤔

buoyant salmon
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you guys getting mad about this now is sp funny

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this has been news for weeks

night relic
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ITS DOOM POSTING HOUR

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SHUT IT

slim coral
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only saw this cause wowhead posted buffs in a TLDR

rich sapphire
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good thing i just ding 80 with dk yesterday

south kayak
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To be fair, they changed some talents for arcane and fdk too and didn’t nerf to compensate

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Wild

buoyant salmon
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they did the tiniest compensation nerf to frost

slim coral
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I just don't undertand why warrior got 0 love

forest owl
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yeah its ok guys im sure they'll nerf in 1 week like fury got

honest karma
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Sorry for reposting: Just started myhtic prog. Is it worth going arms on any bosses? Gear optimized for fury.

slim coral
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and arms needs help in terms of m+

tidal kindle
south kayak
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I already rerolled

rich sapphire
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unless they make prio targeting really stong

silk wharf
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I just can't believe they say a class can be good because of raid or fight design and then turn around and nerf a spec when its good because of raid or fight design.

rich sapphire
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or meta for some reason

inner harbor
south kayak
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The devs are just idiots who need to be fired

keen pelican
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yo guys as fury do we have to carry to two handed weapons pls?

slim coral
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yes

south kayak
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Imagine keeping your job after doing it this badly

silk wharf
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"Have" to, no. Want to, yes

trail sapphire
slim coral
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wowhead

trail sapphire
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ty

rich sapphire
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btw not sawing in the pole but unholy is unchanged xD just imagine....2 dk viable specs and 1 subpar warrior

slim coral
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yeah unholy is nasty too

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if you pull around it's cds

silk wharf
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i mean, fury is still really good where it's good.

south kayak
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Mages are hero class, they always get changes. Meanwhile warrior gets nothing but sewer water

hardy cargo
honest karma
rich sapphire
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why bring fury when ret is a much better fury with better utility

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and shorter cds

silk wharf
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It's the nerfing everything else because fury carries one or two raid fights that is the baffling move.

rich sapphire
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+immunity

chilly fractal
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Look... Frost DK was really hurting

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they needed this buff

rich sapphire
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wooot???

frozen marten
keen pelican
# slim coral yes

if we have to carry 2 x two handed weapons mate why do 1 handed weapons drop under fury loot table pleasse?

rich sapphire
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i guess hes been sarcastic xD

south kayak
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Why do they keep changing mage talents when there are classes like warrior that need it way more? Fuck those morons

chilly fractal
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Arcane mage may as well should've just been playing Frost DK so they needed a buff

hardy cargo
raw nest
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the devs are terrified of 2019 Warrior Giga Bis returning

rich sapphire
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antorus 🫡

silk wharf
honest karma
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2019 BFA?

raw nest
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nah 2019 classic

silk wharf
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if you don't want 1h'ers to show up as loot set your loot spec to arms.

raw nest
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I wish SMF was competitive, most 2h mog looks like crap

glad coyote
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explain how frost DK gets a 8.1% ST buff and a 7.6% aoe buff?

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and we get nothing

covert blaze
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i havent done it yet

south kayak
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Because devs are idiots

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Why do you have to ask lol

rich sapphire
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i guess changes benefit breath builds

chilly fractal
rich sapphire
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  • they buffed shatter build?
warped bone
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Sooo. Think Frost will get a nerf xD?

south kayak
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No

forest owl
glad coyote
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amazing how arcance gets another buff

south kayak
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They’ll nerf fury

warped bone
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This must be some of the worst balance in some time

raw nest
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fury is getting nerfed lol

warped bone
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Nerf fury because we strong. But buff frost because... they strong?

glad coyote
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lol

south kayak
warped bone
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Can hope they get an aura nerf

south kayak
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Play another class

deft light
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just think of the good times

shell wigeon
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Target cap feels so bad

south kayak
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They don’t care about you

silk wharf
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Idk, I'm sure they would claim balance is hard but "make aoe button do less" doesn't seem that deep to me. They did it to warrior.

tepid lily
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target cap fury < no aoe cap frost dk

warped bone
tepid lily
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what in the fuck blizzard

teal pine
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I’m really expecting aura nerfs. Feels like they wanted to refine some hero specs and ended up giga buffing them. Surely they tune them

drifting fog
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20% nerf ? What the fuck Rip brood 😂😂

honest karma
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Fury warrior strike when? We could sit outside Dornogal with banners

warped bone
rich sapphire
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target capping is crap

inner shadow
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can a priest

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dispell poison of ara-kalra?

tepid lily
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target capping is so bs

slim coral
warped bone
chilly fractal
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Dan shouldn't have said anything... I feel like they nerfed Fury again after that

raw nest
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remember the good times

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when fury was good for like

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six days

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I miss those times

molten spire
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Wtf am I supposed to do

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I maxed out runed crests

tepid lily
median dust
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The fact we can't SR the dispell on last boss Siege when it's a magic dispell is kinda bullshit. lol

molten spire
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and nobody wants a 616 warrior

tepid lily
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That was peak fury ngl

molten spire
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for +8

raw nest
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I didn't play prepatch, I got bored of DF in S3

tepid lily
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never pushed so hard

chilly fractal
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never push

willow cradle
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Dan is the goat

honest karma
native wadi
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wtf are they doing

silk wharf
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I also feel like the devs still live in this classic world where they just say to themselves "warriors scale" and are afraid to have warriors be good early.

native wadi
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with dk frost

#

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

rich sapphire
#

i guess we go with the meta guys.....till next patch. i rather play dk than group finder simulator

shell wigeon
#

Yeah have you ever looked at queue while sitting in a 8, 9, 10 key? A 616 brown name dps is not even a blip on the radar

molten spire
#

it just feels like shit

forest owl
inner shadow
shell wigeon
inner shadow
#

poison?

molten spire
#

I wouldn't invite myself

mossy fox
warped bone
silk wharf
warped bone
slim coral
warped bone
#

Gripcake!

inner shadow
chilly fractal
#

I could grip some cake right now

visual rose
#

I'm getting outdpsed by ret pallys 10 ilvls lower things are great

molten spire
#

I guess I should level a shammy huh

tepid lily
#

frostcake

fickle cedar
#

they gotta revert those frost buffs wtf

molten spire
#

Or a dk

tepid lily
#

frostcake

#

omg

warped bone
warm crag
warped bone
#

Thanks

chilly fractal
#

@visual rose the Ret pallys 15 ilvls lower than you at least won't get invited... even though they'd still out dps you

rich sapphire
#

guys chill dk really needed a buff

#

now go play prot

#

........

rich heart
#

whats thewhats expected % dps sim loss when the patch hits?

spare steppe
silk wharf
#

Also the irony of having a 20th anniversay event highlighting a classic dungeon turned raid and tuning warrior, the most iconic dps of the time, to shit.

spare steppe
#

Good tank diversity at least

honest karma
#

Reduce Reck and Ava to 1 min cdokayge

raw nest
#

iirc

#

and our burst aoe fucked by like 20%

frozen tartan
honest karma
#

Did tank dps on dragon in mists. No cds single targetkeks

opaque falcon
#

What’s the new build?

weary sail
jolly jungle
weary sail
#

And also Fury nerfs

jolly jungle
#

glad arcane is being worked on

warm crag
#

they needed it

weary sail
#

Glad Frost DK getting buffs

#

They needed it

#

Very weak class right now

hollow ridge
#

arcane needs more buffs, needs to be doing 2x the damage fury is doing

tepid lily
heavy dock
#

ok but

#

why do they get a st buff

#

and we dont

honest karma
#

No fury warriors left in here soon. Only FDK chat

heavy dock
#

o st they arent the greatest either but we are dead last lol

weary sail
#

Cuz fuck warriors

hollow ridge
#

becuase we dared to be better than bottom st for a tier

tepid lily
#

frost dk only chat

#

fuck fury

compact knot
heavy dock
#

i made a prot warrior

#

lmao

#

so far having fun

teal pine
#

They changed their whole hero spec around which ended up being a big buff. Why they didn’t also tune it at the same time idk

rich sapphire
#

petition to have archi rename the channels to ex-warriors, risen to undeath to fight for the lich king....yeah thats the title

compact knot
#

"fuck it, buff the highest performing specs"

weary sail
#

Soon

fickle cedar
#

what data are they using deadge

south kayak
#

Data they pulled out of their ass

ornate gust
south kayak
#

Call for those morons to be fired

frozen tartan
south kayak
#

“Tuning”

#

Bunch of idiots

compact knot
restive peak
#

Genuinely it’s a head scratcher that arcane and frost dk are buffed at all, but the most buffed as well really highlights how much the dev attention has dropped completely

vernal mantle
#

Hire other class discords to work for Skyhold (mage/balance dudu)

restive peak
#

They laid off too many people

vernal mantle
#

Ez buffs

compact knot
#

spellslinger arcane got a 30% 5t aoe buff

#

lmfao

honest karma
#

I always end up here before sleeping. It’s not good for me.

south kayak
weary sail
restive peak
#

They are very clearly unsure of what even matters in game, when we see their M+ tests being done on 3s, it really highlights the issues

opaque falcon
#

I stopped que as DPS and just go prot for m+ lol

rich sapphire
#

@restive peak they are gonna get new staff once the new patch rolls....that where the money is, returning players....

fickle cedar
#

its genuinely insane, can't they notice every key above 11 has an fdk ? insane raid performance too okayge

weary sail
#

let's buff DK and mage some more

heavy dock
#

warlock ;v

restive peak
#

Unfortunately this is the worst tuning we’ve seen in modern WoW and it’s getting worse, they seem to believe this game cannot die like so many others do, but they’re really hammering the nail in

heavy dock
#

i thought that class was pretty bad

restive peak
#

People will get fed up with constant rerolling

fickle cedar
#

yeah probably the worst balance patch in like 3 expansions or something

#

so out of touch

chilly fractal
#

pretty bad

heavy dock
#

but im afraid this time around its much better number wise so that won't happen

#

cuz too many casuals happy doing their 5 man delves

restive peak
#

I personally went from raiding hardcore and title pushing to 2 day raiding and doing M+ a few times a week, it’s really hard to care

hoary pasture
#

Dk reroll inc

heavy dock
#

yea same

#

im not going past 10

restive peak
#

I have made several and no one ever gets involved

heavy dock
#

cba

forest owl
# restive peak People will get fed up with constant rerolling

im not even rerolling im just going straight for the unsub at this point. I'm tired of the amount of gold I spent gearing warrior, to see nerf nerf nerf to fury and then weirdly at the same time, see the already super strong classes like frost dk get buffed more. I feel like a clown tbh.

fickle cedar
#

yeah me too i cant even reroll im the only warrior in raid

restive peak
#

We have the worst people here for actually engaging in the discussion, other classes have 1k+ posts and we barely crack 30 even on big issues

#

But it shouldn’t matter because they should be balancing based around actual data and not opinions

fickle cedar
#

yeah I doubt fdks were complaining about low damage

rich sapphire
#

i mean....statistics arent opinions....the show facts

restive peak
#

This should not be a popularity contest, or who cries the most, they do not balance on the basis of actual data and it’s very obvious

fickle cedar
#

its delve logs or something

restive peak
#

I actually wouldn’t be surprised to find out they only have 3-4 devs across all classes

chilly fractal
#

1 dude that used to be a janitor

restive peak
#

And those devs are human, and if they play mage/dk/sham they’re going to put more passion into those

sudden tusk
restive peak
#

And it’s simply human nature

warm crag
#

i dont even care about the tuning i just want to see the justification

restive peak
#

^

chilly fractal
#

yea

warm crag
#

like legit one italicized line that says "ye frost is lacking here thats why we're buffing it"

spiral orbit
#

Yeah the total silence is infuriating.

restive peak
#

Some form of real explanation would solve a lot of my frustration

heavy dock
#

same

restive peak
#

It would also make my decision to say fuckit and quit or not easier

heavy dock
#

guys its ok fury is getting secret buff next patch

#

surely

#

:D

restive peak
#

Which is probably why they DONT explain

hasty tide
#

they never will, cause it would just reveal the lack of care/work that goes into balancing

restive peak
#

The thing is we don’t even need buffs as much as other things need to be nerfed, the gap is going to be fucking WILD tomorrow

fickle cedar
south kayak
#

There’s no fucking real explanation for these shit stain dev changes

heavy dock
#

odyn fury becomes odyn focus where u slap 1 target rly hard

south kayak
#

I hope they get fired

restive peak
#

The only explanation is truly that the current devs play the constantly changed/buffed classes, and simply put more effort in

rich sapphire
#

i cant remember for the life of me. there was this patch that fury was getting like 5 aura buffs just to get afloat

restive peak
#

That was s1 SL

hard widget
#

Guys incase ur wondering to reroll. The mage stonks looking good

rich sapphire
#

yeah xD

hard widget
#

x)

heavy dock
#

playing caster deadge

restive peak
#

I mean arcane mage and frost dk are going to be 5-10% ahead of even the next broken class tm

hard widget
#

Can barely call it a caster

restive peak
#

Which is just weird

fickle cedar
#

I mean this seems like a general outrage and they did something for hpala like 3 weeks ago, maybe they do something copium

rich sapphire
#

i remember pulling 100log on denathrius ( FUCKING AWSOME WARRIOR FIGHT BTW) and having a 90 percentile unholy dk beating me on damage

chilly fractal
#

Blizzard was just tired of people playing Unholy DK... so they buffed Frost DK

hollow ridge
#

watch them let arcane live as the monster that it is like they did with warlock in sl s3

hasty tide
#

you'll never guess which ones they buffed guys

hard widget
#

xD

compact knot
#

dont regret it

hard widget
#

So far im enjoying Arcane mage too

compact knot
#

its actually so fun

hard widget
granite jewel
#

How big is the fury buff on the .5 patch ?

jolly jungle
#

blizz based their tuning on warcraftlogs statistics right?

#

fury ist fine

jolly jungle
#

right?

compact knot
#

not much

slim coral
#

The most confusing change is moving fury to 5 targets

warm crag
hasty tide
#

its all confusing

hard widget
#

Oh wait....

warm crag
#

very few ppl have killed ansurek and rashanan has adds disabled until reset

#

your complaints are valid but its better to use more accurate stats

jolly jungle
compact knot
#

wcl is going to be super fucked

slim coral
compact knot
#

fury is going to appear as a S tier spec on the overall because rashanan adds will be added back and more people will kill ansurek

warm crag
#

depends if allstar disabled fights count for all bosses damage

compact knot
#

i would not trust WCL in the slightest except for single target bosses and silken court

heavy dock
#

jokes aside i feel like having a fury war for web traps on ansurek helps alot lol

warm crag
#

you immune those on mythic

heavy dock
#

all 20?..

warm crag
#

yes

slim coral
#

pretty much yeah

heavy dock
#

what

#

how even

compact knot
#

raid utility

heavy dock
#

what raid utility

compact knot
#

people have ways to break snares and roots

heavy dock
#

for 20 ppl

warm crag
#

most classes can immune it, be immuned or go gnome

heavy dock
#

sure but even the 2 back to back?

warm crag
#

shrug

teal pine
#

Doesn’t paladin have like group wide freedom

compact knot
#

the 2 back to back i think you need to dps some usually

median dust
#

You know how you get Blizz to notice? Make the warrior developer que for pug 12's as a Fury Warrior/Arms Warrior and he's not allowed to go home till he gets into a key.

heavy dock
compact knot
#

but you can literally just ignore the first 2

calm quartz
#

Atleast its not like the MM dark ranger rework

#

literally unplayable now

#

xdd

restive peak
#

Between the gear increases, the hp nerfs to the fight and the stacking buff any class can handle the roots quickly now

rough tulip
#

fdk and mage buffed 😄

compact knot
#

i know mage can break all the roots, warriors can break them all, druids, a lot of other classes can too

slim coral
#

pretty sure you can just run double dk now

#

bc they're gonna be gapping so far

compact knot
#

double dk is insane

median dust
# weary sail

I asked another fury warrior who listed his 12 Mists last night to invite me just so I knew what it felt like.. He was allowed to boot me after lol

slim coral
#

esp with another 8 percent

south kayak
compact knot
#

afaik most guilds run 2 blood dks

pseudo dawn
#

So warriors get more nerfs and the meta classes get buffed help me understand this please someone anyone

median dust
# weary sail

this was me for 45 minutes yesterday before logging out lol

rough tulip
#

bwizzard hates wawwiors

compact knot
#

playing arcane im wondering why it isnt getting nerfed currently

rich sapphire
#

is there eny m_ competition coming or something and they need them extra juiicy?

hasty tide
#

Warrior nerf while buffing FDK, rogues, and mages is some next level mental gymnastics on blizzard's part

compact knot
#

im doing 300k more on single target than i would on my fury warrior, next reset ill be 450k ahead lmao

pseudo dawn
#

They have to give some answer for this brain dead ass shit shaman dk mages get buffed more and warrior nerf like wtf are they doing seriously

nimble ermine
#

they wont

radiant coyote
pseudo dawn
#

I have good idea let’s buff all the meta classes guys oh damn that’s a good idea I should apply to work for them with that mentality

slim coral
compact knot
#

ooohh

hasty tide
#

may be a good time to break before Season 2

compact knot
#

i was thinking like mythic raid, best prog comp is like 2 bdks and 3-4 frost dks now prob lmfao

#

since dk has insane raid util as well

south kayak
#

Instead of breast milk, blizzard is now chugging alcohol combined with pills

#

That’s the only explanation

compact knot
#

+breast milk

chilly fractal
#

Sindragosa's Milk

jovial mauve
#

is there a macro to make ravager not feel cluncky to use?

nimble ermine
#

what

chilly fractal
#

are you using @player?

rich sapphire
warm crag
#

you can use @cursor or @player to skip the targeting circle

jovial mauve
#

not using @player because its for pve

chilly fractal
#

@player it goes on you

nimble ermine
#

so then use @cursor

covert blaze
jovial mauve
#

cool, didnt know that

nimble ermine
#

lmao

pseudo dawn
#

They were so fast to nerf warrior 3837 times at start why do they continue to nerf us while buffing others though is what just bafffles me though

jovial mauve
#

still think cursor is better since I might want to initiate with it on another pack or something

chilly fractal
#

baffles us all @pseudo dawn

pseudo dawn
#

Not even give us single target buff ? Something throw us a bone

past pivot
warm crag
#

you dont really want to throw ravager first for a number of reasons but yeah cursor is just better most of the time

weary sail
#

Fury warrior paying for the sin of doing too well on heroic week

compact knot
#

heroic week

#

kek

midnight finch
#

Kek

past pivot
#

lol heroic week

chilly fractal
#

and on the 1 season there is a heroic week

jovial mauve
#

ya cant wait to slowly sideboard my fury and start gearing up my enh

oblique trail
#

Gz on kill

mossy fox
#

this was without monke debuff

oblique trail
#

(Don't look in my log and see I missed 2 mandate uses)

south kayak
#

Monk buff vs 2 mandate uses

mossy fox
#

our only monke might have failed trial the previous night

chilly fractal
#

Crit... if you needed the monk debuff you would've multiboxed for it

oblique trail
#

Quite tragic

#

Our monk is our tank so irreplaceable (or very hard to)

mossy fox
#

it's okay

chilly fractal
#

Monkcake?

rigid stirrup
#

anyone running mad queens in +12s and above?

mossy fox
#

it's possible we wouldn't have killed if the trial decision wasn't made

chilly fractal
#

that bad?

mossy fox
#

one might say he was betraying us quite a lot

calm quartz
#

monk terrorist

oblique trail
#

Was he from red team

chilly fractal
#

most monks are.... like if you ever walk the streets of Las Vegas

mossy fox
#

no he was blue so he had an easy job

chilly fractal
#

BAM Monks just come up to you

mossy fox
#

at least blue felt very chill to me

oblique trail
#

That's crazy

#

Red team bombed me somewhat often with pixel stacked orbs

south kayak
#

Banezi thoughts on arcane and fdk buffs

south kayak
forest owl
#

here's my thoughts clueless not that anyone asked lol

mossy fox
#

it's not an expansion without a charge incident

chilly fractal
#

did you provide feedback @forest owl

past pivot
#

No one asked @forest owl

oblique trail
buoyant salmon
#

ive gotten like half a second away from doing that

south kayak
forest owl
covert blaze
#

you seem like you care a bunch

chilly fractal
#

so far this xpack my only charge incident has been the boss in Stonevault with 2 of them... charged when the one in the mech suit went into the middle as the box was coming

velvet obsidian
#

I accidentally charged a fixated mob on the third boss GB

feral ivy
chilly fractal
#

haven't done that yet... but I've been retargeted due to people dropping threat off them

#

then they blame me for getting hit by their add

frank rover
#

wait hold on

cedar kraken
#

quick question. WIth #9 being the only time i am seeing bloodbath. What if i have over 100 rage but dont have vicious contempt but can still bloodbath. Do i just ignore it and use Rampage? Or do i use the bloodbath then rampage?

frank rover
#

are we the only capped classes in the game?

feral ivy
#

no lol

feral ivy
#

NE ftw i use shadowmeld on last boss in NW so i never get sent down

compact knot
formal ravine
#

meanwhile this shit is happening as if it matters to bliz

#

😂

crystal coyote
#

I charged out of the explosion of the last boss of arakara two days ago

molten spire
crystal coyote
#

that felt good

feral ivy
#

wtf is protest?

crystal coyote
#

😩

formal ravine
#

Dunno

#

I think it may be due to tomorrow/wednesdays changes

#

buffing mage-fdk

#

People complaining io guess?

south kayak
#

Protest shit tuning

feral ivy
#

wtf?? hte ppl protesting is getting buffed

formal ravine
#

From what i see in description

keen pelican
#

hey guys what is prio execute at 3 marked for execution or suden death pls?

formal ravine
#

it says something along of "Waiting 10 hours to get in a key"

#

some shit like that

chilly fractal
#

how are they protesting? You can't just say protest to protest

compact knot
#

aight

formal ravine
#

Dunno

chilly fractal
#

are they just not inviting DKs and Mages?

formal ravine
#

Found it funny

molten spire
covert void
#

I mean, m+ is pretty abysmal atm between 11-12 so.

molten spire
#

but unless you are a rshaman nobody will care

formal ravine
#

well the jump from 11 to 12 is probably not gonna happen for 80% of community

#

So it's a bit shitty i get it

zealous oracle
#

Algari mana oil or whetstone, whats the best?

covert void
#

one of the worst break points I've seen in multiple expansions. for pugs. for many reasons.

molten spire
#

I wish it was just +11 or +12

formal ravine
#

For me personally this season is competing with DF season 2

#

When it comes to m+

molten spire
#

I can't get a single +8 run

formal ravine
#

I find it just as bad

covert void
#

there's always break points, always.

#

this is just one of the worst for a while

molten spire
#

Though when I get in we do suceed most of time

chilly fractal
#

I don't see any keys with "Protest" in the name

molten spire
#

so I guess htats different

chilly fractal
#

must be EU feeling that jazz currently

molten spire
#

Thats a warrior problem not just a m+ one

crystal coyote
#

blizz needs to buff exec

#

😩

#

it feels so wrong

gilded pawn
#

im surprised RB and BT was buffed but not exec

ornate gust
#

The whole spec feels wrong

pseudo dawn
#

Blizzard just needs to undo the nerfs they did on us and it wouldn’t be so bad

crystal coyote
#

execute being dogshit just doesnt fit into the class fantasy

#

I dont understand what they are thinking

formal ravine
#

Class fantasy

#

Lmao when was the last time that was part of tuning

astral rose
#

anyone got link to DK discord?

formal ravine
#

Google it

#

Literally first link you will find it

#

here

#

fist link that showed up

random hill
#

wanna join guys xD?

glad coyote
#

For sure

winter shoal
#

What is blud waffling about

#

I'm not reading all that

slender perch
#

GO ON BLIZZ! Bust Frost DK in ST ANNNND AOE! whilst fury remains bottom ❤️

thin cliff
slim grotto
#

friendly reminder that blizz balance team is braindead

muted dune
#

Next Nerf coming is more AoE Nerf for OF and DR and a 3% aura nerf and target cap down to 4 or something

random hill
#

Buff to DK/Mages/Rogues

#

YEP

#

insanity

slender perch
#

trying to figure out what to say without coming across as toxic....

supple laurel
slender perch
#

or get me banned

hallow cipher
#

what blizzard is doing now is absolutley dogshit

north edge
#

i rerolled fdk

#

after previously rerolling ret

muted dune
#

They could keep the nerfs if we would get some sort of Utility, i totally agree with the Text in the pic, give us a Lust or another shout that does somesthing. We are literally screaming up the Max HP of everyone

hard widget
#

I dont want utility

north edge
#

i nearly lost in dps to my mates 599 ret in a 10 arakara as a 628 war, it was depressing

hard widget
#

I want damage

#

ZUKZUK

supple laurel
muted dune
#

We will never get Utility, so yeah damage^^ or why not both

random hill
thin cliff
muted dune
#

At least SOME love

random hill
#

Lust shout makes sense

#

even in cinematic we give lust

#

xd

north edge
#

Lust shout aint gonna get us in groups

random hill
#

the BFA one

north edge
#

which are 85% rsham

#

anyways

random hill
muted dune
random hill
#

but who knows!

thin cliff
#

xD

muted dune
#

But its just a proof that we could get something with shouts

random hill
#

yep

#

lust warrior makes perfect sense

#

i made this topic on forums for years now

slim grotto
#

diablo barbarian shouts wen

random hill
#

but nothing happens

slim grotto
#

let us be the new augs cuz we are truly zdps now

random hill
#

i was so sure they will give us in DF

#

but evoker got it

hard widget
muted dune
#

Battle rezz: punch the chest until he breathes again

hard widget
#

Thats the one and only shout a warrior has atm

ashen socket
muted dune
slim grotto
#

Shout for group-wide enrage, which nerfs your party by 10% so they can feel your pain

mild ravine
#

dudes, is it possible for me rum sims with the changes coming tomorrow?

tidal kindle
tidal kindle
#

Nowhere to be seen

supple laurel
#

bring them down to our level

slim grotto
muted dune
#

Warrior is so unnecessary for the game that even wowhead does not add us to the infochart

hard widget
#

"demoralising shout" got an entire new meaning these days sadge

ashen socket
hard widget
#

Yeah

#

Idk i even asked the computer, he told me it was fine

#

Guess i got scammed

ashen socket
#

lole

slim grotto
#

spell reflected our own demo shouts...feelsbad

eager thorn
urban creek
#

sooo we can reroll to other char or we can play anger management instead of reckless abandon because the empowered BT and RB is not affected with the 25% and 30% buff

or?..

eager thorn
#

so ur correct

hard widget
formal ravine
#

meanwhile elemental shaman rework doing 20mil dps on 5 targets 😄

mossy fox
hard widget
#

Mudslap to the rescue

eager thorn
#

o7

formal ravine
#

This is fine

slim grotto
#

respec anger management before nerf hits for optimal mental stability

mossy fox
#

is it 3rd time actually

eager thorn
hard widget
#

Basically a nerf in disguise

oblique trail
mossy fox
#

oh damn

forest owl
smoky wraith
#

reroll frost dk or retri ?

supple laurel
muted dune
hard widget
livid marsh
#

im gonna reroll back on my sv hunter if its actually really fun to play after patch

slim grotto
#

from 2 massive swords to 2 wet pool noodles