fury

[south kayak]

Now I'm depressed

Thanks

[vernal laurel]

You could just use Tellmewhen, the addon

[gaunt moat]

And many ppl seems to be arguing that odyn's fury will only be good on slayer from now on

[vernal laurel]

And make the tracker yourself, its relatively easy

Oh cool, where can I look at this build?

[gaunt moat]

I'm on phone rn but i think they're available on critcake last video

[thick fossil]

Fuck it, I'm fully embracing Prot as main spec.

[daring blaze]

I did it the first couple of resets without being asked to do it and then asked if ranges could do it just to have to actually explain the mechanic

[sullen cloak]

Has anyone got any advice for getting recklessness up for each pack on Mythic Brood?

I am specced AM but I am finding by the second or third packs my Recklessness is like 5 or 10 seconds short of when the adds get gripped

[subtle cypress]

Any fury out there soloing T11 delves?

[oblique trail]

I personally use Depths of Insanity instead of Bloodcraze, so I can keep using Powerful Enrage

[subtle cypress]

I can do 10s without much of a challenge havnt tried a 11 solo

[smoky vale]

can i has :3

[oblique trail]

Works for me just fine, as the extra 4 seconds of Reck can be the difference between 1 or 2 rampages

[oblique trail]

I don't have the original doc link saved, just copy off of the pic

[sullen cloak]

That's a good idea! Agreed I should be able to get that 1 or 2 extra recklessneses to hopefully proc the next one

[warm crag]

It is slightly more unhinged now

[gaunt moat]

Archim was talking about not taking crit chance on bloodthirst in exchange for sudden death so more rage more rampage aswell

[sullen cloak]

Which ability is that?

[oblique trail]

He's talking about swapping Bloodcraze for Sudden Death

[smoky vale]

surely uou have

[gaunt moat]

Thank you Banezi i don't know all the english name sry

[vernal laurel]

Aight ty

[near wing]

Do we think AM MT fury will perform better or worse in high keys after tomorrow?

Any hope of being able to get into 12s? Absolutely gated right now

[eager thorn]

if ur pugging and its not ur key i wouldn't rely on it

[verbal rivet]

I’m just trying to get portals my guy

[smoky vale]

portals are 10s?

[verbal rivet]

Ye

Haven’t timed a 10 yet, so it’s a snowball of getting gated a lil bit

[smoky vale]

i mean you are just behind

part of the gating is from if im at the rating 2 weeks ago why cant you be

[verbal rivet]

I understand why, it’s just the M+ community is mad toxic

[coarse nest]

24 hours until doomsday

[verbal rivet]

Have two 2 chest 9s, can’t get into a 10.

[eager thorn]

[eager thorn]

do you have all 9s timed

[left tapir]

thats fury for ya

[dire badge]

skill issued

[left tapir]

nobody wants to invite a warrior into keys unless prot

thats just sad

[south kayak]

that's not true

[coarse nest]

Don’t worry can’t get into 12s with all ++11s either

[left tapir]

they should give warriors Lust so we can bring something into keys cause

[coarse nest]

[left tapir]

our damage is trash

[eager thorn]

m+ is chill pugging till 11

12 is

[verbal rivet]

Get declined from everything over an 8 lmao

[golden hare]

warrior dps specs are actually the only dps specs with this issue btw it has been proven in court

[eager thorn]

cant relate sorry

[dire badge]

too really ergy

[coarse nest]

You gotta play with friends to get into keys reliably that’s all there is to it

[left tapir]

what issue

[barren vapor]

What's considered an ok ilvl and m+ score for +8s?

[left tapir]

2k raiting 610 i lvl

[barren vapor]

I see

Nice pfp btw

[verbal rivet]

Me being at 2150 and 620 and still getting declined…

[left tapir]

ty

[left tapir]

ye cause you not 630 i lvl and super high raiting

[oblique trail]

[left tapir]

wich by the time you get there you wont be doing 10s anyways

[dire badge]

I’m getting into 10s as a 617 monk

[verbal rivet]

That’s cool

[left tapir]

dps ? thats mad

[night relic]

I’m not getting into 6s on my 617 ret alt

[willow hazel]

Really crucial that people acknowledge this is an MMO built on social structures. If you don't have a group of friends to play with, a lot of the game's systems become a nightmare to navigate.

[night relic]

But the pala market is flooded atm

[south kayak]

lmao the pala market

[verbal rivet]

I leveled a DK yesterday.

[left tapir]

it should not be this way if that was the chase then there is no point to lfg systems

[willow hazel]

oh my sweet summer child

[verbal rivet]

Probs getting higher rating on that then anything my war could put out.

[dire badge]

seen too many rerollers people gonna stop inviting dk and ret alts

[left tapir]

all warriors just swapping to dk cause they busted and frost keeps getting buffed hello ????

[coarse nest]

I started leveling pala and the Templar M+ build is actually so cool and very easy to pick up

[verbal rivet]

There’s been like 3 ret builds ever that took skill

[left tapir]

true

[coarse nest]

It’s not fair at all what they get compared to us

[sick jungle]

isn't ret the easiest spec in the game to play

[night relic]

Yes

[sick jungle]

even easier than bm

[coarse nest]

And Less buttons

[left tapir]

like

[eager thorn]

no fury is the easiest spec

[verbal rivet]

Debatably, but it’s damn close

[left tapir]

i do bot understand why they just keep nerfing warrior

[coarse nest]

Ret is literally easier than fury

Swear

[left tapir]

prolly cause the answer is we scale the highest with gear but

[golden hare]

fuck

[verbal rivet]

So is Frost

[coarse nest]

Like 7 keybinds total

[verbal rivet]

3 button ass specs

[left tapir]

to get the gear you gota do content but cant do content cause weak

[livid marsh]

fury could have been the easiest if it would have been "just build rage and dump it into ramp"

[verbal rivet]

And 14 defensives and utility pieces

[livid marsh]

but its not

[golden hare]

yet

[left tapir]

i mean fury is easy dont get me wrong

[willow hazel]

100% Fury warrior does enough damage for the content. if you are struggling look within

[night relic]

4 of those are util

[left tapir]

try playing ele shaman or shadow priest

[golden hare]

why

[coarse nest]

The utility is where all the button bloat comes in for ret but like as an alt im not going to save other people

Fuckem

[sullen rune]

I don't see a reason to bring a warrior over a dk or ret even if there's already one in the party. We bring barely any utility and way less damage.

[willow hazel]

REAL

[livid marsh]

cant do content because no one takes me into content in the first place

[left tapir]

man you have no idea compared to other melees we are the weakest in almost every aspect in mplus

[willow hazel]

my friends just dont play as slaves to the meta. we push 10's lmao

[verbal rivet]

I have more respect for havoc rerollers then Ret, havoc is also really simple if you can use Vengeful Retreat correctly,

[left tapir]

no utility capped aoe damage shit aingle target

[willow hazel]

im 620 on my warrior and its plenty of damage

[left tapir]

10s is no content at all

im talking about 14s 15s

[coarse nest]

I’m still going to main warrior like always but decided to casually play ret for the first time since like wotlk

[eager thorn]

gatekeepers smh

[left tapir]

you can do 10s and 12s without a healer for god sake

[coarse nest]

And it’s pretty neat I must say

[willow hazel]

enjoy homie

[sick jungle]

wasn't wotlk ret stupid fotm

[coarse nest]

Not until icc

[sick jungle]

i swear swifty made a 1 button macro and went into bgs

[coarse nest]

Before icc it was mid bottom

[left tapir]

like between 10 and 12 its actually a joke to play if you know the dungeon

[verbal rivet]

I haven’t gone to ret yet. Breath of Sindragosa is what I used to raid on. I was branching out with War this time.

[left tapir]

meta only matters in high keys ( 14s 15s )

[eager thorn]

for performance maybe

for getting invited not at all

[verbal rivet]

Not to casual players. My Dev Evoker gets declined from 3-5 keys for not being Aug.

[sick jungle]

i rolled a boomy because my guild needed one

and it's so much easier getting invd to keys lol

feelsgoodman

[verbal rivet]

Guildneedsmark druids go crazy

[coarse nest]

Of course fotm

Pug brains

[hardy cargo]

The greatest sin but at least you are having fun

[sick jungle]

i actually almost applied with my warr to brewjj's guild

[coarse nest]

3.5k exp fury warrior!?
Nah we’ll pick the 2200 boomkin

[hardy cargo]

I, however, will sit in LFG simulator

[sick jungle]

apparently they were looking for another

[coarse nest]

[verbal rivet]

It’s only a sin if it’s a Zandalari Troll
Boomie

[sick jungle]

too bad I'm anti-social and don't feel like doing interviews to find a new guild

[verbal rivet]

Do we need to make a guild for all the not warrior Alts we have?

[thick fossil]

I mean, it happened in DF S2 when Aug dropped.

[chilly fractal]

I haven’t tried to put my way into 10s in a couple weeks but I wonder if I’ll still have difficulty being over 2700 and 630 ilvl

[livid marsh]

so real, i have seen people invite the wildest shit instead of a warrior

[willow hazel]

we are always in open recruitment if you wanna take a peek.

[verbal rivet]

👀

[coarse nest]

Do it I need a warrior bro

[verbal rivet]

What’s the guild

[radiant plank]

Do i even want to see tha last 3

[sick jungle]

🤔

[verbal rivet]

Based Wow player takes

[coarse nest]

Gg go next

[south kayak]

Do it or you're a pussy

[golden hare]

why go next

[sick jungle]

CE focused?

[verbal rivet]

They seem anti deathrolling

[golden hare]

what's wrong with that

[coarse nest]

Drama

You know it

I know it

Everybody knows it

[radiant plank]

Inclusive competitive english

[golden hare]

what

[willow hazel]

ironically we have a serious gambling culture

[livid marsh]

damn, kind of the tags i dont really wanna see when applying to a guild

[verbal rivet]

Bro I am ready. Where do I apply

[coarse nest]

I’m hanging with the boys like it’s an MW2 lobby

[verbal rivet]

I better be called slurs for missing kicks

[coarse nest]

Lmfao

[chilly fractal]

Death rolls are boring I prefer Hi-Low

[coarse nest]

Not that far

[golden hare]

???

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[verbal rivet]

I was taught by a VDH who did that to me lmao. It was all jokes, but I got a lot better

[radiant plank]

is it you tettless in a key during bfa

[coarse nest]

Tettles catching strays in skyhold

[golden hare]

yeah I also slur people for fun haha

[coarse nest]

[radiant plank]

I only slur the bosses

[oblique trail]

When I missed a kick in a dungeon Erga told me how to do a skip in Necrotic wake, where i then pulled what I was supposed to skip

Think he did it on purpose..

[coarse nest]

Intentionally

[radiant plank]

did erga tell u 7

[coarse nest]

[south kayak]

when colossus smash parries

[fervent yoke]

Should I alt fdk, ret, or rogue?

[coarse nest]

Ret

[livid marsh]

if you dont want to fall asleep while doing damage go for rogue

[coarse nest]

Templar is cool!

[sick jungle]

if i were to roll ret i don't think i'd hear the end of it from my friends

we all hate on ret

[thick fossil]

Oh man, that would be fucking annoyingly stupid. Certainly worth the angry burst.

[verbal rivet]

Generational hatred for ret.

[radiant plank]

What slur do you use when you get parried

[verbal rivet]

Can’t say it here

[radiant plank]

pussy

[coarse nest]

BLIZZARD

[fervent yoke]

I’m small brain so less buttons is good lol

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[coarse nest]

Ret is 4 buttons

And 2 cooldowns

[fervent yoke]

😍

[teal bear]

is there a macro to switch between stances ?

[fervent yoke]

Guess I’m going pink

[coarse nest]

Yes in pins

[fervent yoke]

Yeah you can make one

[thick fossil]

Yeah, Ret has certainly taken the title for brain dead class.

[south kayak]

I don't though, I just swear lol

[coarse nest]

Two builders two spenders two CDs every 30 seconds

Very easy to figure out

I guess 3 CDs of you include toll lol

[south kayak]

me when i spam divine storm

[thick fossil]

I share a quote from Discord, "I have no idea what I'm doing, but I hit these two buttons and delete packs."

[south kayak]

baseg

[golden hare]

discord did not say that

[coarse nest]

Based

[south kayak]

Mr John Discord

You don't believe me?

[sick jungle]

can you macro the cds

to turn it into 1 button

???

[golden hare]

i do not

[coarse nest]

Yes but they’re both gcd

You do press them one after another though

[south kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[coarse nest]

Every time

[sick jungle]

not as cool as warrior though

[thick fossil]

This was a friend on her Ret paladin alt. On a 6 or 7 I think. She's still gearing.

[sick jungle]

nothing beats pressing 1 button to do 5 things as fury

[coarse nest]

LOL

[chilly fractal]

John Discord signed the WoW TOS… his signature was the largest

[sick jungle]

thats my cope for the day

😠

[coarse nest]

Where’s the tmy 100 parse macro

[south kayak]

I think on our rework

blizzard needs to take away one aoe cd

we have too many

OF or TR

or BS

and put that damage into our abilities

[thick fossil]

I don't think Fury needs a rework. Arms, yes. Completely.

[south kayak]

Fury needs one

Time to cook lunch

or dinner

[thick fossil]

What would you want to change, and what would you replace it with?

[south kayak]

Nothing

Put the damage into our rotational abilities

[sick jungle]

i like the way fury plays atm, but if a rework means they can figure out a healthy balance between good dps and burst dps

I'm all for it

[south kayak]

RB/Rampage/Execute/BT

[thick fossil]

That's aura tuning then

[south kayak]

Not towards the big cds

just these

like TR/BS

[eager thorn]

[night relic]

make it do 5 billion damage

[south kayak]

Make execute do something

[night relic]

lore accurate mountain thane

[smoky vale]

fuck the clappa bring back rampage bb spam

[night relic]

clappa came and aint leaving

[coarse nest]

[verbal rivet]

Clappa fun to play. Would not care if it was made the better ST spec

[smoky vale]

clappa is fun to play as prot

as fury

[glad coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/thunder-cats-thundercats-gif-23208761

[viscid tiger]

btw guys, wtf even is this icon? Just a big blue Questionmark with lightnings in it???

[chilly fractal]

Get your feet off that blasted samoflange

[thick fossil]

It's a hammer with lightning in the background.

[chilly fractal]

What the fuck is a samoflange

[sullen dove]

Surely it’s not a guy striking with a hammer

[south kayak]

Someone's hand and a hammer

[viscid tiger]

OMG, now i see it haha

[thick fossil]

Though I see the question mark you're talking about as well. Pretty funny.

[hardy cargo]

A question mark with lightnings hahaha now I won’t unsee it

[unreal onyx]

[bitter palm]

CLAPPA

JA CLAPPA

[radiant plank]

JA CLAPPA

[chilly fractal]

Wait… that wasn’t the first think people saw?

I thought everyone saw the question mark

[torn sentinel]

I hear frost dks get buffed and we are still in the shitter 💀

[bitter palm]

i hear enha getting a 30% buff

[torn sentinel]

They better be cooking some 20% aura buff 😂

[frozen lake]

I always thought it was a question mark

[near wing]

Wait serious? I have all +11s, but only one ++. So there is no point in even trying to ++ everything. 628 ilvl 2700+ io and I can’t get a 12 invite. Like literally have spent hours and have never gotten a single look

Guess I need to spend more time as prot if I want to run at 3k

[torn sentinel]

Pugging is pointless

[coarse nest]

Yeah you and everybody else in the pug pool is at 2700 with all 11s timed

So one 12 key has 100 applicants instantly

[junior gale]

they will take a ret or a dk over you everytime

[torn sentinel]

Even if you queue your own key people see warrior dps and don’t apply

[coarse nest]

Exactly

All we bring is damage and some stuns that Dr with everyone else

And our damage isnt spectacular

[torn sentinel]

just bad compared to others

[coarse nest]

Can our spec succeed in the keys? Yes
Can other specs do it better? Yes

So here we sit

[near wing]

That’s sad

Prot it is

[coarse nest]

Find friends

That’s the best option

[torn sentinel]

find friends and they tell you the same and you should reroll hahaah

[junior gale]

learn to tank if u wanna pug otherwise find a guild group or friends

[near wing]

This is my first M+ season, so I’m kinda obsessed with pushing high level keys. I’ll tank, I picked it up a few days ago and have been timing 9s

[sullen cloak]

Quick DBM question. I have turned off all of my Broodtwister experimental dosage alerts as we are using WA for mythic

I am finding though it would be useful to have a cast countdown for experimental dosage

If i check the box for show timer for experimental dosage, that will just give me the cast bar privately won't it...not mess up any egg allocations or make any yells...?

[coarse nest]

Join a guild and prove yourself to the guys who do keys all the time

They’ll bring you

[hardy cargo]

The only thing you should have to turn off is anything that marks stuff

[hardy cargo]

At the very least next time you pull say you are changing a setting in DBM and if it f’s up the marking oops you’ll turn it back off

[sullen cloak]

currently have this

[covert void]

Yep, welcome to most warriors without a group who are in a similar point. All dps are struggling but again, this is exactly why the small differences have a big effect.

[coarse nest]

My guild completely disables experimental dosage timers and chat says because our WA pack (northern sky) handles all of that

[sullen cloak]

yeah our WA handles allocations and yells....just can't immediately see a countdown for the dosage going out

[dull compass]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kJycsB885WkQHit2mPMtd4

can anyone suggest an item to craft for this build?

[mint shale]

off by one for the elite 1.337m dps build, very sad

[sick jungle]

man I just wanna prog mythic

[dull compass]

right haha

[sick jungle]

why do ce guilds gotta be so serious

do I really need to drop a resume and do an interview

[eternal sundial]

Why does ur assign WA now show the marker

Northern sky AND liquid do this

[sullen cloak]

it does show the marker on WA

I was just wanting a pre cast countdown so I can be ready for it going out

[eternal sundial]

Oh just have the bar enabled

No yell

BW does this very easily

[smoky vale]

just find a rando guild

🙂

[keen pelican]

Yo guys anyone got a macro pls for all the 1.5 mins cds on the opener including odyns fury i made one but can’t seem to get odyns fury or thunderous roar to work. Ty guys

[sick jungle]

post your macro

[hollow elk]

I've been removed from a mythic raid team because I wasn't social enough.

[pulsar quest]

Not all CE guilds are super serious

[hollow elk]

I don't want a second family. I wanna mythic raid and do mechanics and get gear and clear bosses

[pulsar quest]

But a lot of them above US 250 tend to be serious because they want to rise in rank typically

[feral ivy]

the only CE raids that should be serious is ppl running for World 1st

[pulsar quest]

You would find it’s usually the opposite

The closer you get to the top ranks the more the atmosphere tends to be lighter

[hollow elk]

I was legit surprised when I was pulled aside to be told I wasn't social enough....

[pulsar quest]

Maybe it’s because people just trust if you’re there you know what you’re doing

[hollow elk]

Granted Id mute myself on raids but I'd listen to calls and buff calls and such. Guess they wanted me clapping hands and chatting to their meme channel or w.e

[lone zinc]

'interviews' to join guilds are fkin hilarious to me. interview deez.

[lament hinge]

same with applications tbh unless its like super serious top 200 guild, applications are kinda meaningless

[hollow elk]

Yeah I knew there was gona be an interview and it's as awkward as a job one. Just had to change the "I need money" for the "I need myth gear and don't wanna wait for vault weekly" lol

[feral ivy]

i get lost on the app they say "what you expect from us" idk

[hollow elk]

"gear and raid lead to not mouth breathe maybe(optional)"

[feral ivy]

lol

[lone zinc]

@hollow elk lmao thats facts

[feral ivy]

where do u you find guilds to apply? just warcraft logs and raider i.o right?

[hollow elk]

There's a discord

[lament hinge]

wowprogress

[feral ivy]

i tried wowprogress and i got really confused

[hollow elk]

Wow progress too yeah but the filters are kinda poop

[feral ivy]

whats the discord?

[sick jungle]

there's a recruitment discord

it's p nice actually

[hollow elk]

I forgot the name of it.... Probably someone has it here

It's wow related so not bad to link right ?

[torn sentinel]

i go to wowprogress and search guilds there. most of theem have links on ways to apply

[feral ivy]

tell me the name but dont link prob

[feral ivy]

this one?

[sick jungle]

that one

[hollow elk]

Don't recall that one

Oh is it? Hmm

[sick jungle]

at least it's the one I was using recently to look around

[idle ember]

612 ilvl pally doing 1.4m overall in a +8.....is this normal

[glad coyote]

looks right

[earnest meteor]

just ret things

[idle ember]

died a few times to cleaves too

[earnest meteor]

doesnt matter he won in character creation screen

[molten spire]

more warrior nerfs needed I can see you in the meters

should be below tank

[earnest meteor]

to compensate for all the warrior nerfs we buffed frost dks

[sick jungle]

i actually can't believe that enh and fdk have dodged nerfs

and caught buffs

[earnest meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[keen pelican]

/cast Recklessness
/cast !Berserker Stance
/cast [@player] Bladestorm
/cast [@player] Champions Spear
/cast Avatar
/castsequence reset=45 Thunderous Roar, Odyn's Fury

[sick jungle]

i dunno about that castsequence part

just put OF on a separate keybind

TR, reck, ava, trinket is what I normally macro since they all align at 1.5min

[keen pelican]

CAN YOU POST YOURS PLS MATE?

caps :}

[sick jungle]

it's pretty much just trink/reck/ava/TR in that order

I'm not at home so I can't open the game

[keen pelican]

np mate ❤️

[sick jungle]

BS should be it's own keybind, OF it's own keybind

[keen pelican]

new to fury mate any idea why i havent got blood bath in spellbook pls?

[sick jungle]

BB is buffed BT

from reckless abandon

[still basin]

if you macro recklessness and avatar you wanna avoid not behind at your target tho btw

[sick jungle]

not behind at your target?

[still basin]

you wanna be in range

is what i meant, sorry

[sick jungle]

if you're running titanic rage ye

[still basin]

tormnet is what i meant but yes

[hardy cargo]

Walk up to a target dummy -> build rage -> press rampage -> bloodthirst turns into bloodbath

(The same happens with raging -> crushing blow

[keen pelican]

thanks guys ❤️

[frank rover]

this is not even close to accurate wtf

[dull compass]

Its a dungeon slice

[sick jungle]

consensus here is to sim patchwerk

guys

this is better than rank 1 right?

🫡

[sullen dove]

yes

[night relic]

u mfers will do anything but press buttons

[sick jungle]

wdym

i press like 5 buttons

[mint shale]

good rank

[sick jungle]

turns out not trying to parse worked out

[mint shale]

cant stress out for rank 1 parses if youre happy with purple

[hollow raptor]

wtf is going on with rashanan logs btw

r1 log on the leaderboard and on their char page, shows add damage

[sick jungle]

i get purple parses for just doing mechanics

[hollow raptor]

but if you go on the log itself its a green log and unfiltered damage

[glad tide]

is mountain thane better for sub 10 keys?

[glad coyote]

what else are we crafting besides 2hander and bracers?

[smoky vale]

whatever you are missing or sims the highest

[sick jungle]

i crafted a ring

for shenanigans

[main halo]

Can someone send a ss for the best raid ST talents for fury?

[sick jungle]

#dps-faq

[night relic]

ring is pretty good

lets u upgrade 2nd myth ring for free

[sick jungle]

yessir

i'm hyperfocused on saving crests

[smoky vale]

saving

ive used all of mine every week

🙂

[idle ember]

Does that spark you can buy with the vault tokens count towards your weekly one? or is it in addition to

[smoky vale]

only got my first item from ythic raid this week

count towards

[idle ember]

ic thanks

[sick jungle]

i haven't even gotten to do mythic raid yet

feelsbadman

[night relic]

imagine getting raid loot

couldnt be me

[dull compass]

Is there any difference in crafting a charged halberd vs teh charged crusher as an offhand?

[night relic]

oh wait no i got a bow

[sick jungle]

i just don't feel like joining a mythic pug

[night relic]

cuz sikran dropped 3 bows

on a 1hunter raid

[quiet geyser]

Na. Just craft the cheapest or what you think looks the best

[past tulip]

Just tried ST and AOE talent builds from WoW head, and i get 150k more dps with the AOE one, do i need to use the ST or what am i missing 😄

[sick jungle]

interesting

and this is on a dummy

[past tulip]

Right

Yes raid dummy

[unkempt vector]

Both on a ST dummy ?

[past tulip]

yes

[sick jungle]

you're using slam instead of ww right

for filler

[past tulip]

Nope WW

[sick jungle]

hows your opener

hows your AJ management?

[past tulip]

Im still a noob trying to improve, but just got home from work and set up the ST and AOE talen build and tried them out but getting higher dps with the aoe one

[sick jungle]

most likely just a few things you need to change up

use slam, look into when to execute

[past tulip]

Sweet will do! ty!

[sick jungle]

you can grab a WA to help you track when to execute

also practice your opener

[past tulip]

I tried find one, do you know one that is good?

[sick jungle]

i really like shirlythebandits

https://wago.io/LGCQ-r09Z

shout out shirly

I'd assume he's in the discord

actually i dont think this is his

he just recommended it in his vid

[past tulip]

Thanks alot man, really appreciate feedback to improve, feels like its just small things now but im getting there 🙂 tho im just casual always fun to improve, mycket tack!

[sick jungle]

np have fun

[gilded pawn]

Aoe builds are a bit easier to play because it’s burstier

[rotund ginkgo]

Do we know brd info?

[olive wraith]

Like loot?

[past pivot]

We know it’s heroic track

[past tulip]

Ah i see, well will use them both, but for raid bosses feels like most bosses uses aoe

[sick jungle]

6/8 fights in the raid are aoe/cleave

[sick jungle]

is it just a timewalking raid

queue up and zug shit

[past tulip]

Sweet,

[sick jungle]

or is that unknown atm

[olive wraith]

Is it considered tw?

[oblique thistle]

New timewalking scales to our level instead of lowering our level
Has LFR, normal and heroic difficulty
Counts towards the vault

[sullen dove]

Who’s excited for tmrw!!! Rash adds back on logs so we’ll get nerfed in 2 more weeks again!!!

[normal bane]

is that happening?

the rash part, the nerf thing is implied/assumed

[unreal onyx]

can't wait to get nerfed again

I can barely sleep

[haughty wadi]

hey guys, can we say its currently worthless to play war ?

[unreal onyx]

it's never worthless

[oblique thistle]

No

Warrior rules nerfs or not

[haughty wadi]

hum

[unreal onyx]

warrior is just playing wow at higher difficulty

not rotation-wise

[haughty wadi]

eyah exactly

[olive wraith]

It’s not like war is bad

There are worse classes

[normal bane]

ppl thinking warrior sucks after the nerfs(in raid) are delulu

it sucks in m+

compared to the meta specs

[glad coyote]

i pump in m+

[olive wraith]

It’s mid in m+

[unreal onyx]

thank god it only sucks in 50% of content most ppl play

[haughty wadi]

like if mobs are not packed, with enough heal, and your not well positionned u r doomed in terms of dps

[oblique thistle]

It's ok in m+ but certainly not frost dk

[normal bane]

it doesn't suck, it just sucks compared to like 3-4 classes

and still owns in raid

[sterile dagger]

[haughty wadi]

war isnt bad for sure, but its so hard to play compared to other melee aoe, that blizzard needs to nerf once more the aoe

[normal bane]

and everything sucks compared to those 3-4 classes

[haughty wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[sterile dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/silvally-wow-confused-julia-roberts-math-gif-15005094

[olive wraith]

Can you expand?

[haughty wadi]

i also have a paladin that i play less often bcs less fun to play, divine storm is just cheat, half positionning needed, tempeste go all the way trough the room, do not require anything to hit aoe and can even heal allies with right talents

[olive wraith]

I’d argue you have to pay attention more with divine storm

[haughty wadi]

i will not talk about paladin that can also, heal, heal poison, revive, get immortality, give immortality bla bla bla

[olive wraith]

To aim the line that comes out

[haughty wadi]

so tahts why i wonder is it still worthit ?

yep you need to be aligned

[olive wraith]

So how is it easier than warrior in that aspect?

[normal bane]

oh i thought he was joking about the fury being hard......

[haughty wadi]

as i said, u dont need to setup aoe dmg like with war with only 4 stack to hit aoe, and mobs can be aligned, if they are too far away u dont hit them

[normal bane]

uhm

warrior you charge in

[haughty wadi]

add the affix where u have to move, cut comme back etc

[normal bane]

hit your swifty 1 shot macro

and make sure you tc/ww

[haughty wadi]

tc ww ?

[olive wraith]

Warrior aoe is not hard. You don’t have to aim anything. And all your st spells cleave

Thunderclap:whirlwind

[haughty wadi]

well we dont play the same fury war x)

[low folio]

do we know if the brd trinkets are worth anything

[olive wraith]

?

[haughty wadi]

cuz i have max 4 stack to hit aoe and need to "reaload"

[chilly fractal]

Meanwhile I’m dead on the floor after hitting Avatar

[olive wraith]

Yes you press 1 button ever 5 spells

How is that hard

[haughty wadi]

yup, loosing good ammount of dmg while other are directly hitting aoe

[haughty wadi]

didnt say its hard, in fact hits harder than other classes

but id say its whortless

we have nothing for us, all we could do best is dmg

[olive wraith]

All of rets spells are aoe?

[haughty wadi]

and they keep nerfing it

[haughty wadi]

the 2 mains yes

justice blade, and divine tempest + 30 sec cd burst

[olive wraith]

Do they press those spells every gcd

[haughty wadi]

its way faster, i talk from experience

you can spam it

between justice blade and divine tempest

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-madison-bus-driver-experience-funny-know-from-experience-gif-15167618

[haughty wadi]

plus i guess you know that ur able to use justice blade from miles away

[olive wraith]

Can ret charge though

[quiet geyser]

Hits harder? Fury hits like a wet noodle

[haughty wadi]

mb its*

[night relic]

need for speed: Hot Cavalry

[olive wraith]

Saying fury is harder is probably one of the hot takes of our time

[quiet geyser]

Lmao that typo completely changes the convo haha

[haughty wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[olive wraith]

Aiming a line is definitely harder than just spamming your st spells

(Both specs are dumb easy though)

[sterile dagger]

but main point is, why would anybody want warr in group, unless its prot?

[thick fossil]

They have two charges of it, AND they can control where it goes.

[haughty wadi]

damn ok so we'r not made the same guys,but id rather go for just align with ennemies from 10 meteres away and hit than the need to have them close, packed with new max target dmg reductionb every 2 weeks

[haughty wadi]

ahh you r asking the right questions

[olive wraith]

Can’t use it while being knocked back /isn’t as fast

[haughty wadi]

but people say its easy

[sick jungle]

commanding shout

duh

[olive wraith]

Right there you’re saying you need to align the enemies for max output. Fury hits everything around them

[rotund ginkgo]

Ye

Do we know if any brd loot is worth?

[olive wraith]

The loot table is out. Nothing has mastery

[haughty wadi]

u have 2 options, a difficult class to play that brings 5% dmg to everyone, or a class that can revive, dispell, resurrect, give immortality, has a burst every 30 sec and can heal others people

[olive wraith]

I imagine you can top gear sim the stuff already

[dire badge]

you have a third choice too

play neither complain in disc

[olive wraith]

Fury is not difficult my guy

[sterile dagger]

to be honest, giving warr lust is not a bad idea, like battle trance but for whole group 😄

[rotund ginkgo]

The real fury endgame

[haughty wadi]

yup but not ranged

[dire badge]

[thick fossil]

So besides Roar, divine storm has a much bigger area than our st cleave.

[rotund ginkgo]

Yh but sometimes stuff doesn't have mastery but is good? Transmitter for ex?

[haughty wadi]

it does not heal others and yourself, and you need to hug the ennemy to hit

[thick fossil]

It's about the size of bladestorm.

[rotund ginkgo]

Real

[olive wraith]

And you press it every 3~gcd

[rotund ginkgo]

Arms is better than fury because their bladestorm lasts longer

[olive wraith]

Every gcd is aoe with fury

[rotund ginkgo]

💀🙏

[olive wraith]

Why are we comparing how aoe kits work and claiming one is difficult when it’s not

[thick fossil]

3 or 4th gcd, depending on procs.

[haughty wadi]

and they can cleave without charging the aoe with 4 stack max

but for some reason the fkd up the arms

[rotund ginkgo]

Solution play arms

[haughty wadi]

and mroe is in coming

[rotund ginkgo]

Chatting

[thick fossil]

Arms is less aoe than Fury.

[olive wraith]

But arms doesn’t aoe every single spell

[haughty wadi]

in fact one is more difficult, its a truth

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dire badge]

[olive wraith]

Yes lining up the mobs is more difficult

[rotund ginkgo]

Fury warrior gameplay simulator

[dire badge]

I’m not sure I even follow what the complaint is anymore

[gilded pawn]

The only thing difficult in this game is getting into keys

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[hallow cipher]

will dracthyr warrior be the meta ? 😄

[dire badge]

[haughty wadi]

no fury neither ? wdym

[rotund ginkgo]

Ur so real

[olive wraith]

Fury does aoe every single gcd

[rotund ginkgo]

Eh

For what content?

Raid? Maybe cuz of mastery. M+ most likely not

[hallow cipher]

both pvp and pve

[dire badge]

race doesn’t matter

[haughty wadi]

bcs its based on st becoming aoe for next 4 hits

[olive wraith]

Yes

[rotund ginkgo]

Pve is too broad

Pvp idk

Id imagine it's kinda weak in pvp tbh

[haughty wadi]

but war has aoe spell

you alrdy cleave and apply bleed

its was too nice in df so they nerfed it

[olive wraith]

Fury has a bleed too

What are you saying

[haughty wadi]

feminists are in charge of warrior class at blizzard trust me

[hallow cipher]

but if you want to midmax deluxe what race is the way to go ? mechagnome ?

[olive wraith]

Oh okay he’s just a loon

Got it

[dire badge]

this guys got the asmon brain worms

too bad for him

[haughty wadi]

yeah on the roar

[gilded pawn]

I’m not sure what this guys talking about

[olive wraith]

Read the whole talent tree

There’s 2 other bleeds

[thick fossil]

Anyways, I can't find the gif, but on one side you have the furiously key mashing Fury spec, Compared to the laid back, singing and casually clicker Ret spec.

[full bison]

cold steel. hot blood?

[dire badge]

he doesn’t either he’s just typing

[thick fossil]

Wtf does that even mean? Are you just spouting shit you think ppl hate?

[olive wraith]

Tbf ret has a decent apm now

[gilded pawn]

They just removed 8% haste no?

[olive wraith]

Tomorrow?

[orchid dagger]

I mean, big bad brown class kinda shit atm

The big burly boy is shit

[haughty wadi]

i mean i know we have different bleeds, but its doesnt change anything

[chrome plover]

take that back im not a big burly boy

im a goblin

[thick fossil]

In ST we're shit. AoE we're lower mid. Not a good spot for sure.

[gilded pawn]

Ye tomorrow sorry

[olive wraith]

Rip I missed that

[olive wraith]

So then you’re refuting yourself

[gilded pawn]

Who cares whether we have bleed

[chrome plover]

[gilded pawn]

Bleed makes worse players do more damage

[chrome plover]

[haughty wadi]

tf

[dire badge]

he said woyers bad cause of feminism you’re wasting your time

[olive wraith]

Did you not say arms is better cause their cleave makes targets bleed

[gilded pawn]

This is a ronin level take

Holy

[dire badge]

my class is bad cause of woke

[haughty wadi]

yeah but the dmg output is way higher on those bleeds

[chrome plover]

no it's hilarious

let it continue

for the love of content

[dire badge]

it’s not even content

[olive wraith]

Because that’s how their kit works

[gilded pawn]

This isn’t good content

[dire badge]

We’ve seen way better than this have some standards

[gilded pawn]

This is depressing content

[indigo arch]

it's a good thing thunderous roar and odyn are getting hit in anni patch, I beat so many fdk/muti rogues/rets in keys like:

[chrome plover]

I have no standards

[olive wraith]

Ret doesn’t have bleeds

[haughty wadi]

wich made its way easier to play, as long as you apply ur bleeds and then, start what was blade storm inbcreasing dmg overtime dot included

[gilded pawn]

This isn’t even like B tier content

[dire badge]

chawie u will be eliminated

[gilded pawn]

If ronin is S tier and candarice is A tier

[chrome plover]

[gilded pawn]

This isn’t even B tier

[dire badge]

imagine canda being here this season with how ret is

[olive wraith]

Go play feral if you want to play melee dots

[dire badge]

that would actually be some content

[gilded pawn]

Canda had 4 pins in ret

[full bison]

or sin rouge

[chrome plover]

actually canada is a country not a continent

[dire badge]

he’s so goated

[gilded pawn]

Hes a micro celebrity

[orchid dagger]

Big burly class L

[thick fossil]

Agreed, this is like a toddler rambling about something they saw in a cartoon.

[haughty wadi]

anyway, i got my answer you guys didnt loose hope about the coolest class in the game being nerfed again and again, but you'r not teaching how war works mate ? its harder to play than others class and thats a fact, if i take paladin you dont need to wait 1M30 cooldown and you can burst on 3 target without worrying of when to use your cds and if there is enough mobs for it

[night relic]

lose*

sorry

carry on

[indigo arch]

We didn't lose hope? Speak for yourself.

Gearing my ret slowly but surely.

[olive wraith]

If fury is hard I worry for you

[indigo arch]

Still gonna play warr too but fuck.

[full bison]

we've been nerfed how many times this patch alone? think by this point its just roll with the punches

thats our hope

[thick fossil]

Hmmm, hold up. I think I get what he means.

[olive wraith]

We’ve been in this spot all DF

[indigo arch]

It's more like "play dead and hope blizz stops kicking"

[olive wraith]

What’s 1 more expansion

[indigo arch]

Nah in df fury was p good

at least keywise

[haughty wadi]

depends, you worry because u try to say i dont know how to play it ? because i dont think i do that much sht even if i could always do better, but doing good with ret is easyier than with fury. but i dont have troubles playing fury, it could just be funnier and easyer if they stopped nerfing it

[olive wraith]

No better than how we are now

[thick fossil]

Maybe English isn't his strong suit, but I think he means it's easier for other melee to unload aoe. Due to larger melee range/being just ranged (a la Ret). I'm guessing here though.

[olive wraith]

I never once said you don’t know how to play it. I’m saying fury isn’t hard

[indigo arch]

But hey, fury has "best melee that isn't a ret/muti rogue/fdk" on lock

small victories, clearly.

[haughty wadi]

ok ok cool i tought you were thinking it, but its ok im not worried, only about the next nerf that awaits us

[olive wraith]

Is ret tuned higher than fury? Absolutely. If that’s what you’re considering as easy then sure

[indigo arch]

shame that the st buffs don't cover the cb or bb and only base bt/rb

[haughty wadi]

but fury isnt hard compared to wich other class ?

[thick fossil]

None of the classes/specs are hard.

[olive wraith]

Fury is one of the easiest dps specs in game

[runic violet]

Damn... 8 hour mainteancne coming up:0

[indigo arch]

the only melee specs that have buttons anymore are enh and feral

that's it.

[haughty wadi]

yep its not that hard to play, but when you try to play it well its very differen,t

[indigo arch]

muti to a lesser degree and I mean lesser

[olive wraith]

?

[radiant sentinel]

it's not hard to play well either

[haughty wadi]

i still think its harder than other classes

some*

[olive wraith]

Every class has skill gaps for sure

[dire badge]

[haughty wadi]

but in fact its not that hard, but its , wtf did yyou read what i said since 5 mins ?

[olive wraith]

But in general fury is still one of the easiest

“I still think it’s harder than some classes”

[haughty wadi]

ahh for example id say arms is even easier

[olive wraith]

Well that’s a lie

[dire badge]

lmao

[haughty wadi]

hahahaha

[olive wraith]

In ST yes arms is easier

[haughty wadi]

im a liar you found out noooo

[haughty wadi]

but

mate

with arms, u put 1 road, 1 cleave or thunder clap and u but bladstorm and you reach 7th sky

i mean in df

its not true anymore

[olive wraith]

Go ask the arms channel

Why are we comparing old content to live?

[haughty wadi]

yeah i guess that currently they are having bad time

[olive wraith]

Fury was so good 5 weeks ago

Clearly that holds relevance now

[haughty wadi]

i mean was logic since they fkd up arms for tww so i know its alrdy harder to play since you already deal lower dmg

[sullen dove]

arms still got more shit in rotation

[gilded pawn]

Almost as if tuning is all that matters

[haughty wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-gif-24561637

[sullen dove]

Dot upkeep rend every 15 seconds

[olive wraith]

So tuning =difficulty?

[sullen dove]

Prio between ms/op/slam in normal rotation

Execute when it pops up

specifics of when to roar/cs/skullsplitter

arms def harder than fury fury got like 4 buttons maybe

[bitter palm]

colossus arms

[sullen dove]

thank a little more complicated rn but eh

[bitter palm]

is a lot harder than fury

slayer arms u can fall asleep

[haughty wadi]

plus amrs has the melee counter spell wich alloways you to "tank" a boss while pal and the rest are reviving, taking tea etc

[bitter palm]

press exe when weakaura yells at u

[full bison]

the only easier part about arms is execute phase

mash execute till cds or needing to reapply rend with MS

[olive wraith]

You’re just listing a different defensive

[sullen dove]

Taking tea

[bitter palm]

minus arms doesnt have 8 seconds of immortality

[olive wraith]

Arms dies easier to rot

[bitter palm]

cause no enraged regen

[haughty wadi]

yup but with that def cd its kind of the same, if its not magic dmg

[bitter palm]

its not

fury presses bt once

full heals

problem?

[haughty wadi]

yup , they have less healing

[haughty wadi]

yeah in high keys you get one shot so it doesnt matter

[hybrid raven]

quick question in MT m+ build, u never use whirl anymore right? just TC?

[olive wraith]

If thane yes. Just clap

[full bison]

tc replaces WW

[haughty wadi]

i mean arms can heal the same way but less for sure, but that defensive cd countering all melee for 8 sec still is a banger

[hybrid raven]

k thx! just switched

[olive wraith]

Arms can not heal the same way

[haughty wadi]

and tc become your first dmg output aoe ^^

[olive wraith]

Blast*

[bitter palm]

no u dont

xd

fury does NOT get oneshot

[haughty wadi]

x) wtf

[olive wraith]

In 20s they do

[haughty wadi]

amrs has the same healling spell, but fury has more way to heal

[haughty wadi]

yep u do x)

[bitter palm]

ye in 20s u do

tank dies from a single autoattack of a shitter mob in 40s

[olive wraith]

So arms can’t heal the same way

[haughty wadi]

ahh dude you playing with words, you got me

[olive wraith]

You’re the one making these claims

[haughty wadi]

not exatcly the same and less for sure

[haughty wadi]

i mean you miss and aoe with fury in 10th u got os with 625 ilvl if u dont have def cd on for sure

but most of the time u dont bcs u do not plan to tank aoes

[bitter palm]

what

[olive wraith]

In 10s?

[bitter palm]

big aoe incoming -> dstance

or sr

or nothing

in 10d

10s

just warpaint and iv immediately after and u are safe

[haughty wadi]

and not hitting, if u had paladin ... 😁

[olive wraith]

Warriors don’t get one shot under like 13s

[haughty wadi]

yup that what i often do, moving away charge and u get back rage to do sht again

[chilly fractal]

[odd whale]

If the wowhead breakdown of the anniversary raid is correct, there is no gear drops that have mastery?

[haughty wadi]

anyway lets pray for war, so they dont fk it up more and we then get accepted in keys and not seen as useless shts

[olive wraith]

Afaik it’s correct

[smoky vale]

no we need to get nerfed

NERF WARRIOR

[summer quail]

Hah, that last part

[haughty wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/no-never-not-in-a-million-years-steve-carell-gif-13485067

[haughty wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-perfect-it-was-perfect-gif-13138526129365655091

[thick fossil]

Hasn't been perfect since like Cataclysm or Pandaland.

[thick fossil]

I mean, Prot warrior still gets invites. At least I do.

[summer quail]

That's a tank

[thick fossil]

Still a warrior.

[manic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-gif-23508956

Who wouldn’t want that

[haughty wadi]

i started to play this old game at DF S2; so no clue about before

[manic pelican]

Come on

[summer quail]

Ye but we're in fury chat. I was more laughing at the last part with community perception

[thick fossil]

Wait, did you just call DF season 2 old? My guy this game is 20 years old now.

[thick fossil]

I mean, you're not wrong.

[haughty wadi]

" this old game" game game i said game not extension

[gaunt moat]

nah he said the game is old

[acoustic coyote]

excited to play AM again

[thick fossil]

That's about the only good thing coming tomorrow.

[iron portal]

we are all old

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-cheers-salute-shots-drinking-gif-2213666948687721228

[normal bane]

i was kinda hoping this .5 patch would be them swapping around the class tree so we could take the stamina node without inting our damage

[olive wraith]

The community will always think you need to meta classes to do +6 keys

[iron portal]

https://tenor.com/view/neebs-gaming-neebs-hank-and-jed-old-man-rant-gif-15640096

[thick fossil]

Oof I've been on a field ex with a guy like that.

65, and slinging sandbags with us.

[haughty wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-really-bet-zoom-gif-4462610285338994291

[brazen quail]

I mean you want to make it as easy as possible at any given level - you cannot account for player capability after all

[iron portal]

I do believe his physique was most likely better

[thick fossil]

For some, yeah that old man strength is real. Current old man though... well, a strong breeze would blow em over.

[mild ravine]

I'm cooking a berserker's torment build with no of for slayer. I'll.have fun for a key then get the flack for lack of dps.

[cinder shale]

I dont trust pugs so I am mildly picky when I have to group with non guilded folks but I tend to look at io/completed vs times runs for the dungeon I’m doing. The meta is only helpful if I have 100s of apps then I use it to filter down who I consider.

[dusk river]

Anyone have tips on what to alt when maining warrior? kinda want something similar

[hard widget]

MAGE

Mage is pretty fun ngl

[unreal onyx]

run a 2nd warrior

you know how to play + you get dopamine from loot upgrades still

[vagrant cave]

Regarding the "Updates" section for tomorrow's balancing. When it mentions AM vs RA, is that the only talent that changes in the builds? Or is testing not finished til probably a lil after launch?

[errant vessel]

Windwalker is really fun especially now with haste stack

[fickle bluff]

just the name, more changes

[dusk river]

You play arcane or?

[smoky vale]

yeah hes been playing arcane

[verbal rivet]

Arcane mage feels like Fury war ngl

[dense idol]

Enchancemant Shaman, Havoc DH, or 2-H Oblit DK are some of my fav alts for Warrior. Especcially for M+

[verbal rivet]

And Dev Evoker is just mage for crayon eaters

(I’m bad at mage)

[dense idol]

I cant play Arcane, cant manage mana very well, but I do love Fire

[orchid dagger]

I mean Evoker in general is casting for crayon eaters

[dusk river]

I have a dh, but i dont know if i enjoy all the jumping around with these much swirlies in the dungeons

and yes im bad

[verbal rivet]

It’s fun tho.

[orchid dagger]

Pvoker is one Emerald Communion from unfucking his shitty healing, and Aug is outsourcing your damage

[verbal rivet]

I have no clue how to Aug ngl

[orchid dagger]

Maximize Ebon Might uptime, ggez

[smoky vale]

you still prob better aug than me

you are talking to the worst aug in ara 12

world

giga 0 parse

[verbal rivet]

I have never loaded the spec lmaoooo

[wispy bridge]

How should an opener without any cds look like?

[verbal rivet]

All I know is I joined a raid as Dev, and they got real salty when I had no blistering scales

[smoky vale]

charge ww get enrage

aoe

and jerk it until you have cds

[verbal rivet]

The opener without CDs is pretty much just basic rotation.

[storm rune]

pretty awful, not having reck up in an opener feels abysmal when RA

[wispy bridge]

Im talking single target but I guess still charge and spam rb/bt/slam until I can ramp

[smoky vale]

yeah

same concept

[storm rune]

your only options

[smoky vale]

you afk until cds

[verbal rivet]

Just basic things. Is there a reason you aren’t? Or just trying things out.

[wispy bridge]

Progging Mythic Rashanan

[smoky vale]

oh

[wispy bridge]

So gonna save all cds for first adds

[quiet geyser]

Dont

[smoky vale]

nono

you use of fiest

[wispy bridge]

oh

[smoky vale]

rest 2nd

[quiet geyser]

The first set dies so fast, really no point holding. If anything, just hold your OF

[smoky vale]

someone give him a log

[storm rune]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-fury/rashanan

[verbal rivet]

Real glad I asked lmao

[wispy bridge]

xD

thanks for the help

[acoustic coyote]

What kind of changes or buffs would woyer need to be good in m+?

[verbal rivet]

Group utility

Better defensives when you can’t punch something

[buoyant salmon]

enough damage

[verbal rivet]

ST damage that isn’t a meme

[wispy bridge]

tbh all of these are holding everything but of for first adds

[buoyant salmon]

dont need group utility or better defensives lmfao

[south kayak]

fury st damage is a meme tho

[verbal rivet]

I think that’s the reverse

Unless they are just using OF for enrage

[wispy bridge]

looks like it ye

I guess it prob depends how much aoe dmg your raid is doing

[verbal rivet]

Kinda hate it ngl. I’m currently getting props in my guild for my 600 Evoker DPS. It’s a little cheeks.

[wispy bridge]

If alot are cleaving then holding cds prob aint worth

[scarlet mantle]

will the talent trees within the wowhead guides be updated tomorrow to reflect any changes? i think the only real change will be taking reckless abandon over anger management

[verbal rivet]

There’s a lot at play as well, like what your exact comp is.

[thick fossil]

Revert the soft cap of bladestorm, Roar. Increase the soft cap of Spear to 8. Aura tune the hell out of rampage. Make it the must hit button again. Give us a more flexible melee range like every other melee. Lastly, aura buff execute so it's not a once in awhile button you kinda sorta press.

[buoyant salmon]

rampage is the must hit button with anger management

[verbal rivet]

If your group isn’t struggling with adds, I’d just send CDs on pull and hold OF. Rather not miss a BS over the fight

[dull compass]

So is slayer now the play for mythic dungeons?

[south kayak]

rampage does the most damage with thane even with ra

[dull compass]

Lots of the top logs are now slayer runs

[buoyant salmon]

yeah but its not number 1 prio which is what i think theyre talking about

[thick fossil]

Yes, I know. I'm "fixing" current woyer, Warrior.

[storm rune]

Those logs I believe are from before the change that removed adds from parses, so they're focused on padding aoe

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fprTxadRjLgQY7X2#fight=27&type=casts&translate=true&source=4&view=events

You can see top parse currently blows their load on pull

in ST build

[wispy bridge]

Makes sense, I guess I will see how fast the adds die with our raid and save cds or nor based on that

Not gonna go full ST for logs as thats kinda troll imo

Still dont understand why adds got removed from logs when they have to die

[storm rune]

Because fuck warriors

[verbal rivet]

It is literally fuck warriors tho

[restive peak]

Most of us are running both, dungeon dependent, I'd say Thane AM will unequivocally be the best tm though

[eager thorn]

Am thane is gonna be nice but losing cb rampage cb blast in opener gonna be sadge

[proud leaf]

Mm. Double charge for rage interesting

[restive peak]

Tbh slayer and thane are so close it really comes down to dungeon, comfort, and your team comp

[storm rune]

charge gets logged twice, as a cast then as a "hit", no clue why

[tidal kindle]

@oblique trail

Garmdk

[blissful delta]

Aren't they changing the add dmg to logs again this reset or am I high?

[tidal kindle]

📈

[sullen dove]

perish

[blissful delta]

For rash

[sullen dove]

ya

[restive peak]

Huge

[sullen dove]

we get to get nerfed in 2 weeks again bcuz of it

[dull compass]

What does AM stand for? Sorry

[runic violet]

more nerf?

[raw oriole]

new warrior would thane or Slayer be better to get started?

[blissful delta]

anger management

[dull compass]

Thanks

[runic violet]

i discontinued my sub.

[dull compass]

But also this answer is funny in the context of the question above it haha

[scarlet mantle]

what content are you doing? slayer seems better for raid and thane for keys

[olive wraith]

This assumes the meta class will be decent. I’d rather look at io/timed keys

[raw oriole]

m+ so thane. thanks

[dull compass]

I don’t understand how you are supposed to play AM and manage the active drifting of abilities

[runic violet]

hit buttons hard... can't even keep up

AM

[proud leaf]

hit cds as they come up really and accept that there will be desync

[simple oxide]

hey

how many haste fury need?

[proud leaf]

if there's a few seconds worth of waiting to get a trinket going or something before using cds then wait otherwise send it

[proud leaf]

sim your character

stat weights are a thing of the past

[dull compass]

So just full send it 99% of the time?

Within what second range do you ever delay CDs?

5-10 seconds?

[coarse nest]

With AM you pretty much send CDs on cd

BS you can hold up to 9 seconds iirc for avatar/reck but otherwise send