#fury

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inner shadow
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used that french girl idk why

tired brook
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we both have bladestorm on T

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elite keybinds

warm crag
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then your system default TTS must be french

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idk why

inner shadow
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i got a fuckin 60%

warm crag
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my tts speaks to me in german its great

inner shadow
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speak to me in french

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i'm ittalian

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in italy

eternal sundial
warm crag
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gg

eternal sundial
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mine also does

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and idk how to fix it

inner shadow
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easy

eternal sundial
warm crag
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change your system language

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or tell it to use the right tts voice idk how to do that

eternal sundial
inner shadow
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i got

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nono

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no system language

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wait for vid

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oh question

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is there a way to macro pummel

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into what i mouseover?

oblique trail
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yes

inner shadow
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like i wanna mouseover the target to interrupt it

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how

eternal sundial
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💀

oblique trail
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#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@mouseover][@target] Pummel

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should work

past pivot
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#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@focus, harm, exists][@target] Pummel

oblique trail
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It'll prioritise mouseover, and if no mouseover your target

edgy widget
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you can actually combine both of those

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for focus, mouseover, and target all together

inner shadow
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yeah i had the focus one

inner shadow
eternal sundial
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no im just being toxic

inner shadow
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kek

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and i helped you

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im the better person

edgy widget
eternal sundial
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and its true

eternal sundial
inner shadow
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with the weakaura vid

summer quail
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philliam you have to thank the man for helping you

inner shadow
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to change language

inner shadow
eternal sundial
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hm yes

edgy widget
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I said you could combine them, not drop them both into a macro verbatim lmao

eternal sundial
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(you have a different issue)

inner shadow
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bro

eternal sundial
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no

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its a diff wa

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its not in conditions

inner shadow
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ye open sounds

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wait give me the weakaura

eternal sundial
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idiotus

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kaze mrt wa

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on wago

inner shadow
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whats this wa for tho?

maiden wyvern
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Hello gamers, is there any way to add a Frenzy tracker or something to plater in order to know which my last rampage target was?

inner shadow
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frenzy isnt it the haste buff?

errant wedge
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someone on Critcake's chats or even himself dropped "Frenzy nameplate anchoring" aura

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check it

inner shadow
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oh i get the question now

young fern
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I'm trying to do the mountain thane build for M+, feels like i'm doing something wrong. Whats the general priority? outside cooldown?

maiden wyvern
young fern
supple iron
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Hi all. I returned to playing wow after War Within and it's kinda my first time maining warr.

im playing the slayer build for M+ and raids but I am not 100% sure about the rotation. I've looked it up on wowhead but it's kinda confusing.

I was hoping maybe some of you could simplify it for me.

also could use some help on which spells should I use for my burst macro. THanks!

summer quail
supple iron
slim coral
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Wish we got treated like mages sadge

brittle crow
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its that easy

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thats ur aoe rotation as slayer

supple iron
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thanks for replying

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what about thunderous roar and odyn's fury? when are those used optimally?

hardy bluff
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on cd

brittle crow
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u press roar when u press avatar, always

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u press odyns fury on cooldown unless its a bad spot to press it

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u press bladestorm if odyns fury wont be up within ~8ish sec

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if u have both odyns and bladestorm u press odyns then bladestorm

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for that gas

slim coral
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Wait arcane got buffed by 8-15%?

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Bruh wtf

brittle crow
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wtf u mean they got buffed...

slim coral
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It got buffed

past pivot
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Arcane still sucks tho

brittle crow
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crazy

slim coral
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Arcane does not suck

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That shit melts bosses

brittle crow
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time to switch off fury again

slim coral
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In 12s+

slim coral
past pivot
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rotation tho

slim coral
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I think fury’s ST in full bid is like 1.5 or something

brittle crow
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u guys are over 1 mil??

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crazy

supple iron
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If I understood correctly odyn's fury should be used after BS in the opener

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from what I've seen on wowhead etc

brittle crow
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yes

supple iron
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also, should I always use Rampage when enrage is about to go off?

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or doesnt matter

brittle crow
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remember ur ABCs

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Always
Be
C Enraged

supple iron
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I guess that means it makes no sense to use rampage if enrage is on 3-4 sec left

brittle crow
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depends on how much rage u have left

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overcapping rage is bad too

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unless ur overcapping to press more important stuff

supple iron
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what's more important avoiding the overcap :D? sorry for so many questions but it's all very new to me

brittle crow
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the rotation guide on wowhead is very accurate

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im just repeating what it says

supple iron
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okay man.. any major differences with the rotagion for single targets/bosses? except for not having to refresh WW

brittle crow
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you press ramp at 110 rage instead of asap

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thats it

livid marsh
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priority is basically -> stay enraged -> use up your CBs and BBs

supple iron
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okay guys

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thanks for help

velvet obsidian
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Swear on my Tusks of Mannoroth if another Rag player bricks my key I'm gonna go back to molten core and kill the firelord in retribution

summer quail
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swearing on tusks mean nothing after they gave them away for free on remix

queen linden
unreal onyx
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you grinded tusks for 8 years, I bought them after 3 days, we are not the same

brittle crow
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i hate u

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i hate u!!!!

chilly fractal
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I got my Tusks right before the skip got added

velvet obsidian
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Still sacred to me. I didn't play MoP remix (Big L on my part tbh)

chilly fractal
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I think the day before

brittle crow
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i got my tusks the week before mop remix was announced

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i wanted to shit and fard

unreal onyx
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I got mine in late remix

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I just wanted the mounts, but bronze was free anyway so I bought every warrior item

brittle crow
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u didnt get tusks... u got a tusk liscence

queen linden
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Buddy got HOCS a week before mop remix lol. Had over 2k attempts

unreal onyx
velvet obsidian
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WoD classic when? clueless

modest loom
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Bit off topic perhaps, sort of returned to retail couple weeks back, but is there a designated discord server regarding guild recruitment?

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^ or is wowprogress still just king in that regard

queen linden
unreal onyx
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wowprogress is still a very good source imo, there are recruitment servers

rotund ginkgo
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yall

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cuties

unreal onyx
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or rio

rotund ginkgo
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how can we pull adds on maze/last boss

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is it heroic throw?

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ive seen a warr do it

brittle crow
rotund ginkgo
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and was told we can do it

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hi fruity :3

brittle crow
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hi radish

unreal onyx
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in mots?

rotund ginkgo
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no in necrotic wake on the maze

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yes mots

queen linden
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Didnt they just patch this this week?

rotund ginkgo
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idk

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i have never done it but was told its doable?

unreal onyx
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they only patched DK I think

queen linden
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Hmm

rotund ginkgo
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so how do warrs do it

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on last boss as well u can pull the pack on the side

unreal onyx
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maybe taunt?

rotund ginkgo
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i got 0 clue

unreal onyx
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3 year old wowhead post

rotund ginkgo
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ur so real for that

opal spindle
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big advice for all warrior around world start level up Frost dk stop west time on warrior its is over and thank me later good night

worldly pulsar
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Is people still running mountain thane in m+?

rotund ginkgo
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new tattoo dropped

cunning crow
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Does fury only really have 2 defensives or do we defensive stance mid combat

rotund ginkgo
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u dstance mid combat if needed

willow cradle
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It's a free togglable 15% dr

mossy fox
rotund ginkgo
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ty critty :3

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im doing a lich king on my ex GM as well @mossy fox

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work in progress though lmao

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hes a lil sissy

dry hawk
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bruh Necrotic Wake be hauling as Thane

rotund ginkgo
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what key is this

sullen dove
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this 2.3% is seismic reverb right

rotund ginkgo
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id say the dk and mage just played hella ass

sullen dove
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like its actually good as thane

sullen dove
rotund ginkgo
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the common denominator is prot pala

dry hawk
dry hawk
sudden tusk
north sky
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on boss fights do u guys hold blade storm for when u have all the other CD(avatar, recklesness, trink)

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or do u just blow bladestorm when it comes up

sullen dove
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also an 11 so a lot more dmg to be done

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comparing total dmg done overall

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yours prolly like 1 or 2 lvls lower maybe

rotund ginkgo
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630

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im 626.5

sullen dove
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im also not getting full funneled like i could be

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v unfort

rotund ginkgo
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tho tbf i havent crafted 2nd item

dry hawk
sullen dove
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dont get mythic rash cape cuz i have heroic

dry hawk
sullen dove
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can u believe my guild man

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smh

rotund ginkgo
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yh idk if im gonna craft 636 cape or nah

sullen dove
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had this shadowed knife literally like week 1

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from a map

rotund ginkgo
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bro is legit

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stacked

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i got a champion ring

eager thorn
rotund ginkgo
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do i craft a 636 ring

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is that my play

eager thorn
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i did

rotund ginkgo
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i feel like it might ngl

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619>636 is a big jump

eager thorn
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do the recraft abuse and you get ur 2nd ring to 626 too

rotund ginkgo
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2nd ring alrdy 626

hardy bluff
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can also do ring hack if you craft ring

eager thorn
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ah

rotund ginkgo
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yh i got my 2nd ring to 626 before knowing abt it

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not huge deal

hardy bluff
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still works if you get a myth ring after

queen linden
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Rings don't drop. They're a myth.

rotund ginkgo
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by the time ill win a myth track ring ill have enough crests

eager thorn
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idek what i'd want from vault at this point

rotund ginkgo
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myth sac

eager thorn
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ok yea true

rotund ginkgo
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to do damage

eager thorn
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all my other low pieces are just farm from raid

hardy bluff
eager thorn
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ye if there was only a 2h wep that was an upgrade id take it

summer quail
rotund ginkgo
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well

eager thorn
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but 1st boss of raid dropped 2 this week so im p sure im only person without it

rotund ginkgo
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my current champ ring is my biggest dam out of rings i have

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my other heroic ring is crit haste

dry hawk
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can you solo Argus reaid yet?

rotund ginkgo
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?

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u always could

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u can solo eonar

dry hawk
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Eonar boss wasnt at one poin t

queen linden
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Y'all don't have myth sacs yet? Unfort

rotund ginkgo
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yeah maybe like few years ago

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but shes been soloable since df

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just a chore

eager thorn
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blizz still hasn't fixed siege of org for soloing critcake

queen linden
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Imagine needing SoO after mop remix

eager thorn
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why would i play mop remix when i get to play mop classic next year

summer quail
queen linden
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Because you get every piece of mog and mounts wit like 2 weeks of playing lol

rotund ginkgo
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havent played SL

eager thorn
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id rather just grind over time for mounts n stuff than be handed em on a plate

rotund ginkgo
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???

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dog take ngl

queen linden
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Beta mind set

eager thorn
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idk i enjoy the dopamine of actually seeing the drop

rotund ginkgo
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woof

eager thorn
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:(

queen linden
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I only needed HOCS from mop, so I was happy to not spend years farming it.

eager thorn
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i feel like ur the type of guys that would unlock steam achievements with the tool cos it saves you time > playing the game

queen linden
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Can't wait for wotlk remix so I can get invincible keks

queen linden
oak peak
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for those that have tried frost DK in M+, can you play without Breath? or is the other build terrible in comparison?

oblique trail
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It's not terrible and you can play it yes

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But you can also just ask in Acherus

oak peak
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true true. ill do that instead 👍

sullen dove
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4 melee on arakara last boss

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want to blow my brains out

clever belfry
oblique trail
dry hawk
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how do you defeat Eonar on Mythic....

clever belfry
oblique trail
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you just go up into the ship after it unlocks and kill the crystals

clever belfry
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its a shitposting discord i thought?

summer quail
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the fury channel is atleast

oblique trail
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There are probably like 80 videos on how to solo Eonar at this point

dry hawk
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I can't even kill the first ship

queen linden
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Go watch a video.

whole latch
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is there a macro that makes you whirlwind when thunder clap is on cd on the same button? ty

dry hawk
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that was more simple than originally thought

ocean grotto
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HI! will dracthyr be any good on warrior? i guessed yes since it gives mastery and the push and movement comes as bonus

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but i ask either way

willow cradle
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I mean

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If you like the utility and looks then yeah it's a good race

ocean grotto
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i dont know if any race is good on warrior, want to make one and cant decide

willow cradle
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DPS racials themselves are not worth race changing over

ocean grotto
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looks are secondary to me tbh

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i see many Nelfs but i guess to skip mechs with racial

summer quail
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if you're ever gonna tank go dwarf

silk wharf
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The damage variance for races atm is like 1% right

summer quail
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dwarf very safe choice in general

prime badger
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How much in % is the nerf of odin and dragonroar ?

restive granite
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biggest dps gain ive made was switching to nelf

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and melding aggro

silk wharf
ocean grotto
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yeah, i was thinking smthing like that if dracthyr wasnt specially good, nelf for melding or just DWARF

summer quail
silk wharf
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lol

restive granite
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dwarf and tauren look so good on plate

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nelf looks weird

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but meld is too op

willow cradle
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Taurens can barely Tmog

summer quail
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was dwarf in DF, so many things you could stoneform off. was beyond massive on fyrakk mythic

silk wharf
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i do wonder where that dragon mastery buff will fall on the sim chart. Are they are preliminary sims?

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if not I guess I can wait til patch day haha.

clever belfry
summer quail
silk wharf
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yea, last I knew raidbots wasnt updated to support dracthyrs as anything but evokers

ocean grotto
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i dont plan on maining prot, but yeah

silk wharf
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And was going to be updated on the patch

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did that change?

ocean grotto
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i'm the only one that tanks on my grp

clever belfry
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check the url

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and the banner on the website :)

ocean grotto
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and as you said, i suffer so much from dots and magic

silk wharf
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Oh thats the ptr version.

clever belfry
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and just give it a whirl
maybe changes are in, maybe not

summer quail
upper grove
# restive granite and melding aggro

"Lasts until cancelled or upon moving. Any threat is restored versus enemies still in combat upon cancellation of this effect."

Melding aggro, so is it just bursting + meld = time for tank to aggro if you happen to get is the logic? Is it a split-second of meld bc you keep attacking?

dry hawk
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no sythe this week

restive granite
upper grove
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gotcha

dry hawk
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how do you sim crafted pieces?

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was going to go get another 636 made

sullen dove
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you type in the item in the search bar thing

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and if you are like "comparing crest values" you do it at a lower ilvl and then in the gear section change to make it 636 or if you dont care about that and know youre gonna make it 636 can just set that out right

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but just to be sure what 636 you makin..

feral ivy
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can someone explain "med" is? also whats the diff from median and regular average?

sullen dove
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medians i think like the number in the middle of all your attempts

sudden tusk
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basically your average performance

sullen dove
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so if you do a 0, 10, 30, 80, 90, your median is 30 and your average is 42

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but yea

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median perf avg i think is the median of every boss and thats whats averaged

sudden tusk
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gotta remember that math class. the mean the median and the mode

feral ivy
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oh

sullen dove
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most ppl might look at your median rather than just your best performing as its usually a "better indicator" of skill/damage

feral ivy
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nope i hated and barely passed math

sullen dove
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like you can get lucky once and hit a 99 and then just green parse the boss every other attempt

viscid grove
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why does mountain thane play raveger but slayer play bladestorm

sullen dove
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even tho thats highly unlikely

sullen dove
viscid grove
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does mountain hurt if u plaay bladestorm

oblique trail
sudden tusk
sullen dove
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its not unplayable just not as good

oblique trail
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BS also has a very high risk of overcapping your Thunder Blasts

sullen dove
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and yea just want to hit thunder blast

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you can maybe avatar thunder blast bladestorm

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use at least 1 charge

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but still not ideal

eager thorn
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vc feeling p nice for st in keys

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hitting 1.9m with bb was a surprise

subtle karma
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why does a 619 mecurial egg sim higher than a 626 sacbrood?

marsh dock
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anyone know what CD's warrior have that details track? Spell reflect and impending victory dont count

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guild is yelling at me to use more defensives, so im trying to pad

summer quail
marsh dock
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yeah idk lol

oblique trail
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?

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Details tracks all your defensives

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ER, Def stance, SR, IV

marsh dock
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what category is it under

summer quail
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i think he means that his guldies dont count it?

oblique trail
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Enrage uptime = 10% DR as well

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You just go into aura, or check your logs for all the pulls

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Instead of going off of Details

summer quail
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atleast that is how i interprited it

marsh dock
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that's all its tracking

oblique trail
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Actually press your name on the Details bar

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Then go into the Aura tab

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But stuff like this is just better to look at through logs

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Not Details

marsh dock
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i click on it and it just goes to link to chat

oblique trail
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Click it back over to damage done

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Then click your name

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Still not sure what this'd accomplish for your guild other than just looking at logs

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Details just shows if you've had something, not when you had it

marsh dock
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we're not the best guild. just a metric the officers like to look at.

oblique trail
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Well it's not the best metric to look at

marsh dock
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ive tried to argue that lol

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idk why we're suppsoed to use them on CD instead of when we need to

sullen dove
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maybe eh tell em to fuck off

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😄

marsh dock
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XD

summer quail
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mr music are you dying more than others? if not what's the problem?

sullen dove
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yea unless youre excessively dying compared to others in the raid this topic means absolutely nothin

marsh dock
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i am now cuz i dont have my deefensives sup when i need them LOL

sullen dove
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you use defensives when you need them

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not when some idiot tells you you need more casts

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the only time more casts might mean anything is if its like a rot aoe fight that youre constantly taking dmg

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and help out healers n shit not have to heal you as much but like think there are barely any fights like that

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rash maybe biggest example her dot kinda lasts a majority of the fight

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but eh

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lot of bosses have little shitter high uptime dots tho that you just kinda heal thru

marsh dock
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number go up good

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lol

sullen dove
marsh dock
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but anyway, do we have anymore i can use than those 3

sullen dove
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not rly, i mean if youre taking massive damage can always go dstance

marsh dock
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that doesnt count either

sullen dove
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but thats only rly necessary if you omega fuck up somewhere

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o well yea proly not wasnt rly talkin about whatever details tracks

marsh dock
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none of my real defensives coutn lmao

sullen dove
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unless you think youre liable to like, get kicked from this guild for telling them to shut the hell up, should prolly tell em to shut the hell up

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😄

marsh dock
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warriors have great defensives, they just dont count in details sadly ):

sullen dove
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counting defensives off details one of the most addled things possible

oblique trail
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They do though

sullen dove
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logs at the very least is better

oblique trail
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Def stance not there because I never entered it this key

sullen dove
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na just had higher than 7% uptime on it

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very ethical liver

feral ivy
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does spell reflect do any dmg on webs during queen?

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or just stops snare

oblique trail
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It just deflects it

sullen dove
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reflect stops the root?

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tf?

feral ivy
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😦

oblique trail
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Yes

feral ivy
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i wish it did dmg

oblique trail
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You can SR the Expeller beams in P2

sullen dove
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guess never rly noticed cuz just always have a root break from avatar or bs

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but quazy

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o yea i do that

buoyant salmon
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swordish old and bad

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what new

sullen dove
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isnt crazy but extra 4mil dmg is nice

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die

buoyant salmon
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immediately or later

feral ivy
oblique trail
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Does damage

sullen dove
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yesterday

feral ivy
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OOO

oblique trail
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Of course doesn't go into your logs but it's free damage

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So no reason not to

buoyant salmon
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the beam being reflectable is insane idk why that exists lmao

sullen dove
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it doesnT?

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y not

buoyant salmon
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reflect no go into log

eager thorn
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wcl hates warriors

sullen dove
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on anything?

oblique trail
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You can see the instance of reflects/deflects

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but the actual damage never counts for your log

sullen dove
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is this on any bossfight ever or is this a new thing

oblique trail
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Think in every case it's literally just the mob damaging itself

sullen dove
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you think random reflectables like that are done on purpose or they're just a "type of spell" that baseline is reflectable, and if it gets too strong its changed

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like did someone physically make that be able to happen or it just happens and they never thought about it

summer quail
sullen dove
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think the like necrotic wake frost volley cast is reflectable for some reason

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idk if it does dmg

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but i hear the kathwing a lot

summer quail
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it does do damage

sullen dove
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when every other volley in the game has never been reflectable

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cuz its not like "targeted" at you

summer quail
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on beta the frontal on twin bosses stonevault was reflectable. did huge damage

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on twin bosses stonevault the cast that goes on everyone is reflectable, doesn't do that much tho.

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other casts like the stun that in grim batol is not reflectable, even tho it targets only you

thick fossil
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Keeps you from dying to the missed kick.

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Rest of your party though...

marsh dock
oblique trail
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I just clicked my name on Details

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As I said up above, go back to damage done and it'll work

heavy flax
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being able to reflect balls on first boss of cot is so nice

marsh dock
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oh i think at a glance they want to look at the entire raid groups usage

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not player by player

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and see who is casting the most

oblique trail
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Idk

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Your guild is cooked

marsh dock
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lol

oblique trail
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Sorry to hear you're there to deal with it

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Allergic to looking at logs ig

summer quail
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i have to ask, how progged is your guild?

marsh dock
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we're prety casual lol

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we're working on queen heroic

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we onyl raid 4 hours a week

sullen dove
#

its also not just clicking your name

#

have to click auras

#

second tab on the top i think

#

to see buff uptime of different stuff

oblique trail
#

I also mentioned that 👍

#

But think no matter what there's no helping those officers or whoever is asking for this

fervent yoke
#

I haven’t played in two weeks bc I was in jail, is fury still in the shitter?

summer quail
marsh dock
#

i guess the better question is just to ask what abilties we have that are tracked here

dry hawk
#

Yay I have a dead key again

buoyant salmon
dry hawk
sudden tusk
#

anything above a 10 is easier then a 10

restive pewter
#

oh

sudden tusk
#

the moment you hit 11s you filter out most the player looking for rewards and people looking to improve/ push

#

there will be some bad players there still but the quality% is far higher

restive pewter
#

That makes a lot of sense actually

near wing
#

^^ this is mostly accurate. It’s incredibly refreshing.

coarse moon
final birch
#

people who are doing 10s for weekly vault because they're mythic raiding are on average better than people who are pushing 11s for score

sudden tusk
#

only in that neiche case yeah

final birch
#

I wouldn't call it niche

#

It's a common occurence

#

My guild has lots of mplussers but it's still not even like half the roster

#

Rest log for raid and maybe weekly key or two

sudden tusk
#

keys like mists or ara are prob impossible to pug into at this point

#

mainly for that reason

north edge
#

my dk mate telling me

#

fdks getting buffed

#

in 11.0.5

#

what in the fuck

summer quail
teal pine
#

feel like dk is definitely getting like a -5% aura a week after

#

its getting a huge st buff

pearl sequoia
#

all is balanced in warcraft

eager thorn
#

i wish they'd remove summoning stones from dungeons

summer quail
#

it's so easy getting to dungeons atm. just don't summon them

eager thorn
#

ye we didnt

#

then everyone left the key we spent 30 mins filling

#

cos host wanted to afk in dorn and refused to move

summer quail
#

that's fine then, people like that shouldn't be rewarded. better everyone leaves

eager thorn
#

i mean sure but wasting time cos ppl can be cringe and refuse to move isnt great

left perch
eager thorn
#

found some1 who only gets summoned

left perch
#

yea that’s clearly the take haha

eager thorn
#

it is

full portal
#

how good is dungeon slice?

chilly fractal
coarse nest
#

silly hero specs

chilly fractal
coarse nest
#

TRUE

chrome relic
languid marsh
#

If I craft a 636 2H weapon, will i be able to upgrade my offhand 2h at the discounted rate?

chilly fractal
#

And if you get a myth track weapon it’ll cost only 15 crests plus the stones to go to 639

sullen dove
#

Ulg has not dropped a weapon in like 4 kills, about to say some not nice things

#

give stick now ragey

summer quail
chilly fractal
#

Our other Warrior got one but I got a Wild Hammer this week from vault which was nice

storm rune
#

im pretty sure 2h'ers have a legendary drop rate, gonna be week 14 before I get one critcake

chilly fractal
#

They just don’t drop when you need one

#

After you get one you’ll see them every week

storm rune
#

See I used all my luck getting 2 myth weapons by the start of week 2 S3

#

those pink parses weren't worth it

chilly fractal
#

I got legendary the 2nd week they were available… used up a good amount of my luck there

storm rune
#

god that must've felt awesome

chilly fractal
#

I sat on most fights

#

I didn’t need anything until later bosses

#

So for a couple weeks I just let our other Warrior get gear

velvet obsidian
#

Did a dungeon with a Enhance and a Ret. Casually getting dumpstered every pull where I don't have CDs up.

#

Tell me it's gonna be ok guys

chilly fractal
velvet obsidian
#

Thane + AM. It'll be real good. Blast all the packs. copium

chilly fractal
#

Isn’t Ret getting like a 6% buff next week?

young swan
#

net nerf

eager thorn
#

how does vicious contempt interact with whirlwind stacks? is it any target that bloodthirst hits under 35% receives more dmg, or if your main target is <35%hp does it do the buffed dmg on the aoe hits

chilly fractal
#

Oh yea their talents are changing aren’t they

eager thorn
#

ah okay so i dont have to prio targets and it just calcs it itself

#

good to know ty

dire vigil
short cobalt
#

for slayer aoe do u guys reck first or avatar?

dire vigil
#

Reck to get crit chance on the OF proc

short cobalt
#

🙏

dire vigil
#

Bless up

dire vigil
#

I did, I’m talking about the rets, UHDKs, and Arms war

chilly fractal
dire vigil
#

Yeah

eager thorn
#

fair

#

i had 2 drop on monday but they went to the other fury and someone who rerolled ret :/

dire vigil
#

Last reset we had 2 fist weapons that went to transmog rollers 🥲

chilly fractal
eager thorn
#

i dont think literally anyone else needs it so it is what it is

chilly fractal
#

Blizzard removed their raid buff for a reason… Rets don’t belong in raids… if they get gear they’ll think they are accepted

final mountain
#

anyone willing to do a log review?

weary sail
winter shoal
#

Nvm saw you already posted but for one of your raiders

final mountain
north edge
#

fury dead

#

went to help out guildies alts with a 10 NW

#

my 628 war got beat by 617 fdk and 615 ret

calm quartz
#

good

eager thorn
#

Skill issue tbh

coarse moon
calm quartz
#

guessing naowhui

#

🤮

coarse nest
coarse moon
#

Cool thanks! Is Naowh UI considered the best?

coarse nest
#

either naowh or atrocity

#

both are great

#

i prefer naowh

dry hawk
#

Atrocities is good

covert blaze
#

revvez ui is great

south kayak
#

you're great

sullen dove
#

paid ui glazers

#

default or death

willow cradle
#

Nah my ui reigns supreme

south kayak
#

maybe if you spelled it right

covert blaze
gaunt moat
#

Hi sweethearts

south kayak
#

hi sweetie

acoustic yoke
south kayak
#

lmao

#

ok so Crackling thunder makes TC crackle with lightning

#

nah man that's bis

#

fuck rumbling earth

pure kindle
coarse moon
#

Will check it out Ty!

sullen dove
#

shieeeet

#

think this mage spec needs buffs

south kayak
#

lmao

slim coral
heavy folio
#

Are brd trinkets simmable already?

south kayak
#

Probably not

eager thorn
#

finally just finished all 11s surely i should have no trouble getting into 12s now clueless

south kayak
#

LMAO

#

you'd think

#

I finished all 9s and 2 10s

#

and im not gettting invited ot 10s

eager thorn
#

ye its p much been that way up to now too

#

just gotta get db and ara kara done and i feel like the others at that key level open up from there

summer crater
#

Just create 4 ai agents that run the dungeons with you (peepo)

last pier
#

make ret or dk > make friends with ppl in 12s > only offer your warrior in future keys > profit

#

Or make two warrs on dif accounts one does a key while the other searches for a key for the duration of the key.

lament wave
#

Hey guys do you have any advices what to sim for Broodtwister? As I remember was Horridon almost exactly like Broodtwister , so hectic add cleave should be the way to sim or does some1 have any other advice ?

frank cedar
#

can some one list the current m+ thane rotation with priority please?

is it clap on cd or rampage on cd?

brittle crow
#

clap as filler over rb but under bt

merry jetty
#

So we play am after reset?

south kayak
#

If you want to

merry jetty
#

I can play spear of bastion in mplus if i want to, but i didnt mean it like that

eternal sundial
#

tbf spear + no of is actually legit

south kayak
#

It's pretty much identical to RA but AM has the issue of desyncing cds

#

That's what I meant by "if you want to"

eternal sundial
#

its more dam but ok okayge

south kayak
#

AM needs to do a lot more damage than RA if we want to use it competitively to offset the disadvantages imo

eternal sundial
#

how is more cds a disadvantage

#

idiotus

frank cedar
south kayak
#

the disadvantage of desyncing cds and doing less damage in the long run

eternal sundial
brittle crow
#

your rage economy should allow u to have plenty of ramps and crushing blows and bloodbaths

#

check wowhead rotation guide

#

it answers all

frank cedar
#

ok

frank cedar
#

for aoe

#

correct?

brittle crow
#

thats an opener

#

and also for slayer

urban creek
#

hi guys so i just started to do keys with my warr (i was playing warr in shadowlands last time - since then it was untouched)
its happened i got transmitter and mark of khardros, i do not have any other trinket (only darkmoon decks lol)
so my question is what should i proiritize to use with my cds? my first guess is transmitter bc of the 14k str but khardros is a really good option too and ofc dont have to do the minigame

brittle crow
#

the one that gives u more better stats, naturally

#

its transmitter

radiant plank
#

play am and alternate trinket uses with reck

urban creek
#

so i am using transmitter with my cd's and khardros just in larger packs with odyns or something?

brittle crow
#

prob

brittle crow
#

play AM thane

radiant plank
#

You can already do it now with am thane

brittle crow
#

have a trink up for every reck

#

might be cooking tbh

radiant plank
#

gotta believe

urban creek
#

sry what is AM meaning

brittle crow
#

gamers we've been stuck with RA for so long people forgot the old ways of AM

#

its anger management

radiant plank
#

if you bothered you could already play like this with am + double onuse on ovinax

calm estuary
#

I know probably a stupid question but idk why I can't find the answer.

What is the diff between 2h vs 1h fury warrior this expac?

#

Is it still really bad to do 1h, or like... couple % difference?

kindred swallow
#

I swear to god i hate the sea giant boss os siege of boralus so much

#

8 timea out of 10 i get stuck in stupid shit and get gooba stomped by the wavw

calm estuary
#

I'm a prot warrior main and I have 2, 526 1h'ers, versus 2, 519 2h'ers.
Does that ilvl difference make up for it?

kindred swallow
#

Since you have higher iilvl weapons idk tho

calm estuary
#

Hmmm, okay

brittle crow
#

sim yo self

calm estuary
#

okie dokie

radiant plank
#

its dps loss to spec smf

#

even with thode weps

kindred swallow
#

I joined the mage discord yesterday

#

Bad decision

brittle crow
#

smelly wizards

calm estuary
#

sim apparently said still use the 2h'ers even with each being 7 ilvls lower, by like 100k on dungeon slice

#

thanks for the suggestion kinda forgot to sim lol

#

ok thanks yall

brittle crow
#

by 100k? god dam

#

smf sucks

calm estuary
#

yee

#

Oh i'm not talented into single minded fury holy hell

#

ok well, gotta redo

#

LMAO

brittle crow
#

damn

#

was good anti smf propaganda

kindred swallow
#

Well who wants one handers anyways

calm estuary
#

me cus I'm a prot main 😭

kindred swallow
#

Gonna play big swords class to play small swords?

brittle crow
#

youd be surprised how many people come thru here asking about it

kindred swallow
brittle crow
#

at least one person with a sprout by their name like

#

every 2 days

#

ppl JOIN THIS DISCORD to ask about smf

kindred swallow
#

I mean thats fair i was only joking

#

But yeah big pp swords

#

One handers do have better transmogs tho

#

2 handed maces for example are just sad

brittle crow
#

u say that when The Black Hand exists

kindred swallow
#

Yeah its like the only cool one

#

Everything else looks like a lollipop

brittle crow
#

theres also one thats just a sledgehammer

#

think it came from either df or sl

#

i like it

#

but also, two handed axe/sword tmogs are goated anyways so who care

kindred swallow
#

My transmog is literally just nazgrim lol

brittle crow
#

W

#

(even tho hes a death knight now)

kindred swallow
#

But when i do other transmogs i always go for either sorrowbane or some bigger sword like that

#

Nah nazgrim did nothing wrong he never died in padaria

brittle crow
#

ngl since i play maghar and got both the tusks and HD gorehowl its been all i use lol

#

its in the contract as a maghar orc main to wear tusks and use gorehowl

slim grotto
#

basic mog is bis

kindred swallow
#

Imagine being out dpsed by nazgrim

#

The mental damage is there aswell

burnt kelp
#

Keep up the good work

#

👍

somber falcon
#

Does fury suck ass in m+ righjt now compared tgo other classes? I feel like i always do 10-20% less than a pala on the same ilvl

burnt kelp
#

It doesnt completely suck ass but yeah you'll be outclassed by around that much by shamans/mages/dk/retoilets

#

Fury paid the price of being too good in the raid

#

And arms paid the price of

#

Of getting nerfed every time fury got nerfed, for some reason

unreal pewter
#

arms paid the price of sharing the same hero talent tree as fury

humble wolf
#

Where can I find the Mountain Thane Fury Rotation?

somber falcon
#

Well god damn. I'm out here thinking i'm not wearing 2x 2h-swords lol feelsbadman

kindred swallow
#

For queen ansurek are the talents the same as m+?

flat river
#

Will u guys be using AM in Mythic+?

teal pine
#

Delve trinkets are pretty good

young barn
#

Khadros trinket is going to be better in M+ by far

teal pine
#

It’s pure st though. Idk if double on use is the play for warrior usually but it would be better in m+

young barn
#

try both setups on a dummy and see if the sim makes sense

inner shadow
#

which best

#

second trinkety?/

young barn
#

I was fury at the start of TWW but after all the nerfs it just seems like a waste of time. My RET alt sims 1.218 dps at 516 ilvl.

#

My sense is that the sim is garbage and you just need to try it

fleet sorrel
#

@young swan

#

blow up

kindred swallow
#

Ive been having alot of fun with elemental shaman

#

Still main fury tho

young barn
#

yes ele is a good alt to try

#

I also consider fury my main but it's just depressing that my alts do the same dmg with 6 less ilvl.

kindred swallow
#

Eh i still have fun with fury

young barn
#

of course its fun

kindred swallow
#

Im almost always top dps aswell but my max keys are like 6 or 7 so idk

young barn
#

I think Blizzard is low key trying to control the population of warriors because it feels to good and its easy to play.

south kayak
#

EVERY SPEC

#

IS

#

EASY

#

TO
PLAY

young barn
#

nah I found enhancement hard to learn

south kayak
#

Stop this bullshit

teal pine
young barn
#

yes I have a ret its easier than fury and does more dmg

south kayak
somber elk
south kayak
#

and some people actually thin kthat

young barn
#

@south kayak let's take for example a fight where there are a ton of adds coming. Fury has basically no setup other than to just have your cds ready. If you're an enhance shaman there's some setup to think about and the aoe burst needs to follow a very specific series of actions. Fury you just pop everything bladestorm and of.

alpine haven
#

sometimes I have to generate holy power too

south kayak
#

and now our niche isn't even that good

#

everyone else is doing everything better

#

except for that

#

rather delete that and do everything else good

young barn
#

Blizzard is basically saying, get over it. If you don't like it then spend more gold and time playing another class.

south kayak
#

that's exactly what I'm doing, i've rerolled

young barn
#

same

livid marsh
south kayak
#

I'm not gonna main warrior unless we get a rework

young barn
#

I hit 80 on my ret on monday and I'm already 615 and do more M+ dmg as my 521 fury.

south kayak
#

not surprising

livid marsh
#

im generally not a fan of blizzards class design, i dont think a burst window should attribute to a 300% damage increase for 15 seconds while you hit like a wet noodle outside of it

south kayak
#

ret is very broing to me tho

young barn
#

shaman will get your blood pumping

south kayak
#

I did reroll to shaman

young barn
#

I tried FDK but the low mobility just feels like crap

young barn
burnt kelp
#

I dont know, with all the bumps in this expansion death's advance feels super good

#

That + ams just makes dk feel better than any melee this season

#

Well the damage being broken also helps

livid marsh
burnt kelp
#

I wouldnt say every class

#

More like unholy dk, fury

#

Rogue

young barn
#

DK is super good but its not for me. I like the spammy easy damage with ret. Imagine your bloodthirst and raging blow had a 20-30 yard range. That's ret's builders. And imagine Rampage had an aoe version. That's ret's finishers.

livid marsh
#

well not every class but generally most classes have a very strong burst window while outside of it their dps is generally llow

burnt kelp
#

Rampage has an aoe version, its meat cleaver

young barn
#

and imagine not having to whirlwind to cleave your st buttons

burnt kelp
#

But its not as good as divine storm

young barn
#

nah divine storm is a completely separate button

livid marsh
#

divine storm is like what? 30% weaker than the st version?

young barn
#

nah its strong af

#

the synergy

livid marsh
#

well yes but you are not gonna press it on st

#

(unless its dp procc)

burnt kelp
#

I think there was a build where you didnt templar verdict at all

#

But not sure how good it is

polar roost
#

Wouldnt help lower cd on avatar & co but with less dmg for m+?

young barn
#

I'm a bit on the fence with Avatar, like it's kind of pointless we're just going to macro it with reck anyways so whats the point.

south kayak
#

put everything on AM but nerf it

livid marsh
south kayak
#

Putting everything on AM and not nerfing it is not gonna happen lol

burnt kelp
#

That could only happen to like

#

Mage

livid marsh
#

putting everything on AM and nerfing it would just simply nerf RA and people would still not use AM

young barn
#

here's an example of crap design: you have to take bladestorm as an OPTION or you lose 2 nodes on your hero tree.

gaunt moat
#

Fuse am and RA make it so AM reduces the cd by 1 second instead of 2 when fused ggwp

livid marsh
inner shadow
#

+11 sv

#

we thought it ws a 10

#

KEKW

south kayak
#

Getting invited to an 11 and not even knowing it lmao

signal gyro
#

He wasn't invited, it was his key... sadge peepostudy

young barn
inner shadow
#

my key yes

#

kekw

fresh creek
#

pff i hope they change the warrior things for next patch 😦

gaunt moat
inner shadow
#

wtf is this

young barn
#

garbage

inner shadow
#

instead of getting shard

#

i get this shit

gaunt moat
south kayak
#

it's not garbage

#

pretty decent for aoe but that's about it

young barn
#

Wowhead shows its pretty much vendor trash for ST and its not ranked on aoe trinket sims.

burnt kelp
#

You also need it if you drop the mount

inner shadow
#

do you?

#

sims, higher for aoe

burnt kelp
#

Yeah the mount from stone vault is a piece of shit Where you need 3 trinkets to complete it

#

I was happy to drop it at first

livid marsh
#

the darkflame farm was garbo for me for the mount

#

god bless i actually had a pally alt to get the heal trinket

inner shadow
teal pine
#

As your second on use yea makes sense

inner shadow
#

oh

young barn
#

Hard to believe

inner shadow
#

am i supposed to switch use?

#

wait i didnt know it mattered ngl

cosmic lance
#

Using 2 on-use trinkets is normally gonna suck

young barn
#

I would macro Khadros to my Reck+Avatar then use the transmitter on cd when its safe

inner shadow
teal pine
#

I mean no you definitely want transmitter for your cds

inner shadow
#

no i mean

#

with OF

#

45 sec

#

after

teal pine
#

But then just OF for mark doesn’t seem that strong.
With AM it’s better I’m sure so next week maybe

cosmic lance
#

Not really, you're not stacking it with anything so its notwhere near as strong as when an on-use is paired with reck-avatar

inner shadow
#

true yeah

#

whats next trinket

#

i should farm?

warm crag
inner shadow
#

shard?

vague fern
#

is there a spreadsheet of abilities you can spell reflect in dungeons and what the important ones are?

inner shadow
#

anything castable on you

teal pine
#

I like shard a lot more than mark.
Probably just want a passive trinket though

warm crag
cosmic lance
#

I probably wouldnt macro transmitter into CDs, hit it a few seconds before so you can get the buff first

warm crag
#

unless you think that spellreflecting tentacles in grim batol is intuitive

inner shadow
young barn
#

meh I hate running around getting the transmitter buff I'd rather do khadros you get more consistent uptime and its safer

vague fern
warm crag
vague fern
warm crag
cosmic lance
#

Prss trinket > perform tasks > hit cds

#

losing 1 GCD out of CDs is worth a stupid amount of mainstat

#

DUring them

warm crag
#

why would you lose any gcds

young barn
#

if you check warcraftlogs using transmitter is not the play

warm crag
#

you press the trinket before cds

young barn
#

check the stats

warm crag
#

what stats

cosmic lance
#

Because you may be a smoothbrain that misses a global when working out what the task is, i'm talking lowest common denominator here

young barn
warm crag
#

why would you use a primarlily raid tracking website to track m+ usage

cosmic lance
#

Missing 1 GCD of your rotation when NOT IN CDs is worth it to go pick up the orb or whatever to have it during your CD window

warm crag
#

you dont lose a gcd in your rotation if you play the trinket properly

cosmic lance
#

If that's the concern of it being hard to manage

young barn
warm crag
#

lol

night relic
#

get owned spongie

narrow narwhal
#

Spongie is cranky

inner shadow
#

or just pop

#

it

#

before

#

pull

#

lol

#

ez

young barn
#

statistically your transmitter theory is not practical, which is my point

cosmic lance
#

I mean, it is

inner shadow
#

statistically

#

you are fucking wrong

#

but nt

young barn
#

thats simcraft bro

#

simcraft and logs are different worlds

#

come on man

inner shadow
#

wlgos tracks your logs

#

tracks what you do

#

simcraft is simulation

warm crag
inner shadow
#

on pixel perfect rotastion etc..

inner shadow
#

shard yeah

#

shard is much better since the adds tend to live much longer

young barn
#

nah get your head out of the sims for a moment and look at what's actually performing

warm crag
#

i mean some of them also stated they dont want to use treach cause they dont want to

inner shadow
#

some just don't have it keksquad

#

biz for exp

cosmic lance
#

I mean biz also ran a 3-minute on use last xpac when nobody else did

#

Sometimes they just like stuff

inner shadow
#

true true

young barn
#

zen name a dungeon I'll hook you up with the trinket stats

#

just give me one

south kayak
#

Scholomance

inner shadow
#

i retract my statement fam

young barn
#

whats your favorite dungeon

inner shadow
#

i now understand why

young barn
#

current season

inner shadow
#

cuz they need consistent dps

#

treacherous is burst only ig

young barn
#

Yes in other words its imaginary

#

not practical

inner shadow
#

hm yeah i see

inner shadow
#

what would be bis trinkets