fury

[bleak bluff]

Thanks for the link Apart!

[brittle crow]

but i dont wanna blow on 1 or 2 targets

[mossy fox]

ye im sure the culling cyclone nerfs were intended to nerf our aoe

[hardy cargo]

unless you aguys are speedrunning tf out of the p2 it shoukd be fine to just use on shield boy

[pulsar quest]

Anger management angle?

📐

[mossy fox]

naah my OF and BS come back up for them so its fine

[half cargo]

Say it quick 5 times

[pulsar quest]

Oh that’s fine then

[mossy fox]

then i send full cd on boss and it dies cause p3 lasts like 5 seconds now

[pale lava]

not just whining, just tear the developers a new one

[tidal kindle]

Think he's too nice for that

[pale lava]

because no one reacts to "ah this is unpleasant"

[pulsar quest]

I just wish there was like…some sense to it right

Like if the nerfs were because they wanted our other specs to be a bit closer

Or other builds to be viable

[pale lava]

it's the world we live in, people only react when they are put in a position to

[mossy fox]

yeah you'll need someone else for that

[pulsar quest]

But they are nerfed…and we still don’t play different builds or playstyle

[tidal kindle]

https://x.com/EllesmereGaming/status/1846635875460895055
@mossy fox

Ellesmere (@EllesmereGaming) on X

I fear I have held off too long writing this post but I truly believed the 11.0.5 Paladin class tree talents were placeholders and kept awaiting the ptr update that never came. This is my full feedback for the class tree and how to salvage it before it goes live:

A Just Reward

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 7:34 PM

Take notes

[pale lava]

overwhelm stacks was surely the problem

[pulsar quest]

So it doesn’t make sense to me

Nothing changes for us playstyle wise it’s just a nerf for the sake of nerfing

[pale lava]

as zerocool would say, UNLAAAGI

[mossy fox]

zerocool is a very confusing character to me

[mossy fox]

thats a lotta words

[pale lava]

elaborate

I mean he plays rogue, elusiveness is their theme

[mossy fox]

i'd need to stay off skyhold for like 2 hours to write up something like that

[pale lava]

LOL

[pure totem]

lets make it a team effort

[crude nest]

does anybody know the buff name/ID for our 4-piece tier?

[quiet geyser]

a lot of words for a spec thats pretty fucking good

which is sad

[pale lava]

HAHAHHA

jb strikes again

[pale lava]

I read his post, he makes some very valid points on why the tree is trash

[quiet geyser]

sure, but like, ret is so good right now lol

i guess his wording just bugs me.

[pale lava]

not sure how that is relevant but sure

[quiet geyser]

his wording makes it seem like rets need god

when they're pretty pog

[pale lava]

he's a holy paladin

he's talking about holy paladin

[quiet geyser]

i take it back then!

[mossy fox]

idk just polar opposite of me ig

a bit like how i contrast with gromnak

i love gromnak clips though

[tidal kindle]

Not the length

But thetone

[half cargo]

The sludgfist video is the goat

[tidal kindle]

Don't think we have anyone willing to do that

[quiet geyser]

if any other class gets any sort of rework before warrior

[tidal kindle]

In a hinged manner

[quiet geyser]

i'd be very surprised

[mossy fox]

huh

you expect a warrior rework?

13.0 is my bet

[polar narwhal]

I wish Marked for Execution was a character buff. Target swapping feels bad because of it.

[opaque falcon]

What happened to klade

He was the dude in legion

[half cargo]

I saw him streaming last month

[winter shoal]

He's still around I think

[mossy fox]

hehe

[half cargo]

Or was it this month? I'm not sure, all a blur

[young swan]

hes been streaming recently

[polar narwhal]

Also Imminent Demise feels weird at times becaude the count can desync from Marked for Execution.

[buoyant salmon]

kelades been streaming yeah

[quiet geyser]

expect is a strong word

hopium

[young swan]

how many classes do you think exist where at least 1 of their specs havent been reworked since the start of DF

the answer is 1 btw

[quiet geyser]

does moving shockwave count 😄

[hardy cargo]

does the 10.0.5 arms changes count or

[young swan]

fuck no

they made ss baseline

good shit

[tidal kindle]

That was like

Moving 3 talents around

Not really a rework

[ebon junco]

[mossy fox]

man it wasnt long ago i thought taking SS off GCD would make me so much happier with arms

but even if they did that now i'd still be dooming over how it plays

there's no saving it for me lmao

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-of-here-gif-24981088

[dry hawk]

slayer vs thane in an 8 doesnt feel much different

[young swan]

the answer is to full revert to legion arms as the baseline and build from there

[mossy fox]

fr

as in, not focused rage

[quiet geyser]

fury i'de be happy with just fan of long swords for slayer, big execute dmg buff, and VC 1 point talent. in that order too

[mossy fox]

but id appreciate playing that

[dry hawk]

wonder why there isnt talk about legion bloodbath fury warrior execute

[honest sundial]

definitely

[half cargo]

Enduring blow mortal combo slot machine from shadowlands

I beg

[pale lava]

tbh fury gameplay wise is really good right now, the only things that are on my wishlist are:

• Frenzy and is no longer reset if you Rampage a different target
• Marked of Execution is a character buff and not on the target
• Rampage being low prio outside AM is weird
• Execute is in a very bad spot at the moment where it's useful with 3 stacks of Execution but outside that it's just not worth pressing at all (maybe make it interact with Bloodcraze and Slaughtering Strikes?)
• AM desyncs in some situations are causing weird gameplay loops

[dry hawk]

I like Slayer, but also like thane

[hardy cargo]

I dont remember how legion arms played I just remember I didnt really like that button that costed rage to make ms hit harder

but I was omega noob pov

[mossy fox]

nighthold focused rage was my fave arms of all time

[mossy fox]

that was focused rage

[dry hawk]

arms MS back then was a chunky bitch

[unborn rover]

What do you guys think of the upcoming patch notes for fury? The buffs look pretty good but you think it will hold up against the reworks of the other classes? Everyone got novels of changes while we were given a paper napkin with a few notes lol.

[young swan]

all of our capstones suck and theres no difference between pressing execute, bt, and RB

[mossy fox]

but in tomb of sargeras arms got mini reworked and a lot more people enjoyed that version

bro execute is so downbad it's insane

how can a full stack jugg be such low prio

[pale lava]

I removed unhinged revert from that list because I don't have any expectations from the ones who brought us "Warbringer" target cap nerfs

[dry hawk]

lmao

what's y'alls opinion thane vs slayer under a 10?

[young swan]

actually outrageous that our class is like this and people arent throwing shit at the walls if im being honest

[feral ivy]

what is the "hardest" part of COT? the last boss area right?

[normal bane]

What is the best arms aoe has ever felt, it’s always been weird

Bone grinder was better than deep wounds carrying

[young swan]

legion

[mossy fox]

idk legion got it right imo

[hardy cargo]

I already throw shit at the walls but not bc the class is shit but just bc its fun

[young swan]

by far the best

[pale lava]

last time I threw shit at the walls I was flamed by a bunch of people here because "fury is still viable"

[young swan]

yeah i mean complaining about balance is stupid

[half cargo]

Tragic

[young swan]

generally

[pale lava]

not in the current state

trust me

[young swan]

no even in the current state

[mossy fox]

legion arms being reworked into the bland af bfa abomination was just the worst

[young swan]

nothing would change if we were 5% better

[pulsar quest]

It’s funny because like, for being “warrior brained” this class community is like the chillest after being gutted for no reason lol

[mossy fox]

i cant believe they threw that away

[normal bane]

What was legion arms aoe

[pulsar quest]

Like sure people are upset but if this happened to Druid’s or mages

Hooooooly

[hardy cargo]

it is happening to mages

[normal bane]

Ngl I liked lucid dreams execute window in bfa…

[pale lava]

fire is getting gutted wednesday

[hardy cargo]

on tuesday

[pale lava]

I'm waiting for the revert

[pulsar quest]

Okay one of their 3 great specs is getting nerfed oops

Fire was bad most of the tier already anyways lol

It just became good like 2 weeks ago

[pale lava]

all specs deserve to be good

[pulsar quest]

They still have 2 other really good specs

[pale lava]

them having 2 good specs is not a +

[feral ivy]

wrong huntards should never be good nor mages mages are always top tier every expan every season

[pale lava]

blame the developers not the players

[feral ivy]

BOTH!!!

[clever path]

Real and true. I was an arms lover and then bfa broke me. I quit the game for that entire xpac

[pale lava]

players just play w/e they enjoy

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mossy fox]

bfa arms without the borrowed power stuff was the most boring thing i've ever seen

[normal bane]

Lucid dream mashing execute was fun

[warped osprey]

[pale lava]

did you cancel going downstairs?

[pulsar quest]

https://x.com/maximum/status/1847079110847119367?s=46&t=4B_pi9_KhzCinKJu_FCN-Q

Liquid | Maximum (@maximum) on X

made a tierlist on stream of the state of current class design, had to take down the vod cuz of copyright but look out for it on youtube soon

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 12:55 AM

[mossy fox]

entire spec was carried by temporary expansion stuff

[pulsar quest]

Who did he talk to today

That said arms spec design is better than fury

[pale lava]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[warped osprey]

ohhhhhh, yes

[pulsar quest]

Crit was it you

[pale lava]

DH A TIER ICANT

[polar narwhal]

The what

[feral ivy]

im lost on this tierlist

[normal bane]

That list is so bad

[pulsar quest]

This is not their dps this is class design

[mossy fox]

is this why he appeared in my chat while i was raiding earlier

[pulsar quest]

Lmaooo

[pale lava]

yes

dh current design is trash

[young swan]

arms a-tier lmfao

who did warrior?

[hardy cargo]

ele s tier is criminal LOL

[mossy fox]

twitch chat maybe

only explanation

[pulsar quest]

Saying arms is A tier design is criminally prosecutable

[feral ivy]

oh class design lol

[pale lava]

havoc A tier while the spec is like starting a helicopter gg

[mossy fox]

idk despite all the issues i have with the tree and spec etc atm, fury is overall quite fun to play imo

[pulsar quest]

Agreed

[pale lava]

fury is 9/10 for me atm

[pulsar quest]

That’s why it being in beans tier is weird

[young swan]

nah fury should be beans tier

[pulsar quest]

Cause it’s really fun right now

[young swan]

so should arms

[pulsar quest]

For class design?

[young swan]

yar

[mossy fox]

arms should be rotten beans

[pale lava]

would be 10/10 if they fixed my wishlist and reverted unhinged

[verbal rivet]

It’s kinda bottle necked into being “Bladestorm the spec”

[pulsar quest]

I love this OF gameplay

[lean heart]

whoever put arms in A tier gotta be turbo cooked

[young swan]

fury is fun but it has so many issues

[tidal kindle]

Fury is legit propped up

By tahne

Thane*

And simplicity

[pale lava]

as someone who in the past has enjoyed both specs equally and pretty much just played whichever one was better, it's sad

I feel sad about arms

[pulsar quest]

How is it propped up by thane

I’m confused

[verbal rivet]

[tidal kindle]

Thane procs are the only thing that require any interactivity/decision making

[pulsar quest]

How

[tidal kindle]

?

[pulsar quest]

You just press clap when charge

And go boom

[tidal kindle]

Yes...

[pale lava]

you press TB as soon as it lights up

[young swan]

managing tblast + bop

[pale lava]

there's no decision making unless ure not enraged

[pulsar quest]

Now that you put it this way…I’m starting to be to think about it

[verbal rivet]

Either way, TB is still a great button to press

[pale lava]

with AM you just Rampage first if you're high on rage

[young swan]

hey whats the difference between pressing bt, rb, execute

[pulsar quest]

I only press rampage on AM

If rampage not up I spam button until it goes off

[mossy fox]

thane on prot has kinda spoiled me, that hero tree feels so good on prot

[pulsar quest]

Nothing they are all unbound

[hardy cargo]

when I press rb my bt crits more often, when I press bt sometimes I refresh enrage(100% enrage uptime btw) when I press execute I lose a global bc condemn animation 🙂

[mossy fox]

i like it on fury but prot is something else man

[pale lava]

one procs a whirlwind that looks and sounds cool as fk, one gives no feedback and the other one looks cool but does 0 dps

[pulsar quest]

Execute is a tool for making my bladestorm come up quicker

[tidal kindle]

Okay let me rephrase

Thane is the only new thing

Fury has gotten

[verbal rivet]

Why I haven’t tried colossus prot yet lmao. Thane just fun

[tidal kindle]

In terms of playstyle

In 3 expacs

True?

[pale lava]

yes

[pulsar quest]

Fury didn’t have bladestorm until now

[verbal rivet]

Bro I quit playing in SL and fury is the exact same

[tidal kindle]

SL

[verbal rivet]

Rally is just worse

[pale lava]

SL was BS territory

[lean heart]

yeh tru fury is the same as its ever been for 3 xpacs

[young swan]

[pale lava]

rally on gcd gg

[muted star]

keeping up necro banner was cool

[tidal kindle]

Yah but even necrobanner was just

Spam rb/ramp

[verbal rivet]

I was pissed when I read it wasn’t 30 anymore

[muted star]

shouldve kept condemn too

[tidal kindle]

Poggers!

https://tenor.com/bez30.gif

[pulsar quest]

The better hero spec wouldve been a goated SMF spec

[hardy cargo]

we havve condemn animation now perma 🙂

[pale lava]

I liked the older one better

[young swan]

not even kidding i wish fury went back to having crit scaling LOL

[arctic sinew]

Yes, with BT/WW/ex being giga dmg rage spenders

[muted star]

dont worry warrior scales with gear

[pulsar quest]

SMF Hero spec that has frenzied enrage built in, and titans grip hero spec with powerful enrage built in

Hire me

[verbal rivet]

*just ret and DKs also scale. But better

[tidal kindle]

Warrior scales with dev attention

Show me where I'm wrong

[verbal rivet]

Just make SMF with RA and AM. No one here would be upset

[hardy cargo]

considering the downward trend for years I think garm is onto something

[young swan]

our abilities should do extra shit when they crit

[muted star]

"The only time you should look in your neighbor's dps is to make sure that they have enough. You don't look in your neighbor's dps to see if you have as much as them" - Louis C.K. or something

[young swan]

BT should go back to crit = enrage (in addition to cshb), RB should get synergy, ramp should get synergy, execute should get synergy

[arctic sinew]

actually an insanely good suggestion so that we can finally prio crit again

[woven radish]

I was looking at the 11.0.5 Odyn's Fury nerf and noticed there's a damage aura change from 0% to +3%. Even with that's it's still Joever?

[polar narwhal]

Execure crits should actually Execute

Instakill

[verbal rivet]

Crit being a useless stat is kinda wild

[pulsar quest]

My character should moan when bloodthirst crits

[normal bane]

Trinkets scaling with cds, rip fraught of souls

[verbal rivet]

Nelf players

[normal bane]

Draught

Back when trinkets were fun and didn’t split damage

Blademasters

[young swan]

make execute crits like triple damage or some shit

[nimble ermine]

make execute crits explode on impact

[young swan]

RB crits generate double rage

just do something cool

tired of having the most boring class in the game

[nimble ermine]

or apply some heavy bleed, but then cshb would be lamer

[verbal rivet]

But frost gets an empowered execute ability for picking a hero talent now.

[arctic sinew]

Peak warrior design: https://youtu.be/kLQEXOXObTA?t=93

[tidal kindle]

I mean we've cooked like

Easily 200+ ideas for both warr specs

[young swan]

yeah its pretty wild

[tidal kindle]

Literally anything is a good change

Even a bad change

IS GOOD

At this point

[quiet geyser]

dude

[nimble ermine]

nothing will happen

[quiet geyser]

execute just needs to execute

period

[nimble ermine]

love my chungus life

[honest sundial]

@honest sundial

[pale lava]

^

[woven radish]

I hate it so much. It's not fun at all. There's no "mini game". You literally spam obliterate until you run out of breath and if you mess up somehow you get to wait 2 more minutes.

[sonic badge]

Is there a worksheet of when it’s best to use spell reflect in m+? Already have the WA but that’s for targeted spells.

[verbal rivet]

That’s just bad at BoS my guy

[young swan]

@tidal kindle are u still writing a forums manifesto?

or did u despair out of it

[tidal kindle]

No point

[young swan]

yeah

[hardy cargo]

[summer quail]

[balmy shore]

someone make a manifesto i'll make it pretty

[clever path]

All I want is to not be nerfed 6 times while classes outperforming us get buffs :c

[tidal kindle]

#fury message

There

[pale lava]

why?

[polar narwhal]

Chance something will change is 0

[young swan]

falls on deaf ears

[pale lava]

understandable, can see why that's the general consensus nowadays

[polar narwhal]

Should add DOOMER spec to Fury.

[clever path]

All we need is a spec that lets us use foam swords. We would do more damage than we do now :p

[polar narwhal]

We need Glad

This was perfect time to add it back

[vague sierra]

I already transmogged to only fighting with brooms. I think that's the only kind of damage fury's allowed to do.

[cunning zodiac]

baffled as how a 615 ilvl ret beat me in a 10 dawnbreaker lmao

[eager thorn]

skill issue or class diff

[pulsar quest]

whats the incentive to running frenzied over powerful on brood

like one out of every 4 i look at on logs

are running frenzied and Brutal Finish over Culling Cyclone

Seems like its just more boss damage ig?

im thinking i should just stay powerful/cyclone because we only have 1 frost dk, me, and a ret for big add damage

[young swan]

its just getting reck back more consistently

[pulsar quest]

i have it down to where i get it every set now, i might maybe have to get 1 more reck out but it hasnt been a problem so far

i guess it depends on haste?

[cunning zodiac]

def not a skill issue lol

[lime plaza]

I really really hope blizz reconsiders the aoe cap nerfs

Or am I huffing copium

[summer quail]

you are overdosing

[verbal rivet]

My guy, Gripcake has outgeared all of us. The copium is already gone

[young swan]

im taking a nap ping me if u guys decide to have another interesting conversation about design

[summer quail]

speak for yourself

[tidal kindle]

They don't exist

[lime plaza]

Silly question but is gripcake critcake?

[tidal kindle]

Another 3 expacs same shit

[lime plaza]

Or is that like his dk

[verbal rivet]

Exactly that

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/bqsQt.gif

[pulsar quest]

permission to ping is crazy

[nimble ermine]

surely they have a rework ready for wars for season 2

haha

[lime plaza]

What ilvl is gripcake lmao

[nimble ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-gif-23832997

[nimble ermine]

like 626 or something

[verbal rivet]

Cool?

[lime plaza]

Shieeet. I mean im almost 628 on my main

[verbal rivet]

Yeah. It’s pretty stacked lmaooooo

[lime plaza]

But ive been playing my alt more and more

[nimble kraken]

Mythic ulgrax

if I'm bladestorm spinning when he starts the tug, what happens?

[pulsar quest]

try it and find out

[nimble kraken]

It seems like a cool idea but I am now realizing that if it does work, I'll be bladestorming at 40 yds

[nimble ermine]

see you got it

[nimble kraken]

Did try spinning mid tug, that'll pull you in

[eager thorn]

you could wait till ur close then bs but idt its too great of an idea

[cedar crypt]

can spell reflect stop you from getting sticky web on Ovinax?

[pulsar quest]

no ive tried

but you can charge to clear it

you just leap to a spot theres nobody at and charge back in

[dry hawk]

this is why no one does keys anymore, pugs learning mechanics in an 8

[verbal rivet]

That mage is sketch

[dry hawk]

" I am running him through bombs"

no you were just running him around the room like a fucking chicken with its head cut off

[brittle crow]

how come wrathbark greathelm isnt bis over darkfrost helmet

haste mastery > haste vers?

is helmet more stats or smth

[eager thorn]

in the bis setup it prob just needs vers more than mastery for dps

just sim what is higher

[summer quail]

cool

[tepid solar]

Anyone have some good logs for m+ I could look at to compare?

[grave lark]

yeah, pushing 627 and sims are wanting a lil bit more vers- it's just a funny stat thing, bis lists aren't real

[covert blaze]

depends on other stats

like stats always do

[grave lark]

tbh wish wowhead would just do away with bis lists, outside of a few outliers (cantrip rings and junk) it feels really unhealthy for the game imo

[covert blaze]

why is it unhealthy

[grave lark]

well, misleading is a better word

makes players think "i need the items on my bis list", several of my casual raider friends have passed on higher ilvl stuff because 'it's not on my bis list'

although ik that's more of a player problem over a wowhead problem, it's still there

[hasty tide]

by that logic, stat priority shouldnt be there either

it all comes down to your current gear/sims

[grave lark]

i mean, most stat priority lists i've seen mention primary stat as top importance

and for some jewelry for specific specs, a certain stat on an item makes the item useless (mastery for outlaw kekw)

[nimble ermine]

i mean it's a people issue if they follow those bis lists blindly

[grave lark]

agreed

[torpid sand]

I ALREADY HAD THE TRINKET

WHY WOULD I NEED A SECOND ONE

[tacit hawk]

They think you need the gold.

[sullen dove]

i got a duplicate poison ring

[queen linden]

Brood prog. Good thing we're getting nerfed.

[nimble ermine]

i got some wrists

hoped it would be a transmitter

[sullen dove]

no way u should be losing to a ww

[nimble ermine]

i shall never have that fucker

[sullen dove]

unless like double fury you guys are eating eachothers adds

or somethin

but idk how does he have the opportunity to do any damage

[sullen dove]

yea tbh idk what ww hero talents do

but yea thats funy

big conduit man

[verbal rivet]

He’s on the not Shado Pan one. wild

Apparently it’s not bad

[queen linden]

Yeah he's shitting on the adds lol

[verbal rivet]

Pop off Ig, damn

[sullen dove]

idk unless he does his damage within like 10 seconds feel like our burst on that boss is the highest in the game perhaps

[verbal rivet]

Some monk players are just like that

[queen linden]

He's getting this damage off in a 5 second window

[heavy flax]

celestial conduit is just a 4 second channel that radiates a shit ton of aoe

[sullen dove]

[queen linden]

But he doesnt have it for every egg set

[heavy flax]

and with SEF you got 3 of those things going off at the same time lmao

[nimble ermine]

bro is just radiating damage

[verbal rivet]

I respect the pad

[heavy flax]

just a radiator fr

[sullen dove]

jus do this

[verbal rivet]

I must be just bad at the game

Mines not doing that

[queen linden]

Fucking slapping my keyboard trying to get reck back up for 1st egg break lol

[sullen dove]

wait...

dude...

i forgot that ability is also am'd...

im psure all of last night i never hit reck outside of with avatar..

[pulsar quest]

https://i.imgur.com/V0y849z.png

try this buddy...

no reason the time is not in there btw

dont check

[sullen dove]

yea 288m/3.8m

wonder how long that is

[pulsar quest]

just a really quick kill

[sullen dove]

thoughts on a nice little

[verbal rivet]

I’m just happy with my 1M overall DPS lmao

[pulsar quest]

LMFAO

[pulsar quest]

nice kill dude!

[sullen dove]

oh yeah here we go

oh got this number in an 8 second window

but well tonight should be improved now that i remember reck is its own button and not just attached to avatar

[buoyant salmon]

u stay out of range of the adds

use clones

[sullen dove]

ah but right its not the same cd as bladestorm...

[buoyant salmon]

clones do infinite damage

[sullen dove]

hmmge

[buoyant salmon]

with your celestial conduit

[pulsar quest]

https://i.imgur.com/l3Od3G6.png

1st pull pumper

im really hoping we kill tonight

[sullen dove]

yea idk what normal prog times are...

we got thru whole first phase on first "real day" or prog, but only 1 more tonight

but i have an inkling suspicion my tanks are going to be getting executed with 3 spiders

[pulsar quest]

the biggest prog point is like

phase 2 ending into phase 3 start

[sullen dove]

in p2

[pulsar quest]

you HAVE to kill those spiders fast

they hurt so bad

[slow haven]

are we prioritizing RB over BT when in rotation? so like RB>RB>BT for tier procs or RB>BT>RB>BT etc

[sullen dove]

i think as slayer yes but mountain thane bt for thunder blast

[slow haven]

gotcha

[summer quail]

heard there's a ww bug with conduit if you stand far back and have clones and only clones hit with conduit it will do 3 times damage

[astral path]

what are we thinking about seeing 6% ret buff

[summer quail]

it's a 3% nerf

[astral path]

https://tenor.com/view/shreks-meme-gif-14773907558805575638

[pulsar quest]

@sullen dove i have a plater script to make parasites invis if u need it

[astral path]

that brings a smile to my face

[sullen dove]

i dont necessarily dislike the parasite health i dont think it majorly impedes me

but maybe

idk

is it like all in your face and stuff

cuz i kinda like see red and dont look at anything but the dps meters when they spawn

[queen linden]

Kekw no way

Oh thank god, it is a bug

Here I thought WW was actually good

[feral ivy]

on bloodbound can u warlock gate the beam?? i doubt it but want to ask lol

[pulsar quest]

i only do it to see swirlies a bit better

[queen linden]

Pretty sure you can leap it

[verbal rivet]

You can leap it

[feral ivy]

oh yea i leap but just to help the other ppl who cant

[keen fulcrum]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rTJHjfLvcDXkbYaM#fight=last&type=damage-done Anyone wan tell me why am so shit

[queen linden]

How is beam an issue?

Either poor tank positioning or people being in the wrong spot

[buoyant salmon]

dont cast bloodbaths during ravager

your ravager will do it for you

you end up wasting globals during your cds bc you are bloodbathing and your ravager uses bloodthirst

[keen fulcrum]

You just raging blow instead i imagine?

[modest condor]

unhinged shows up as casts in logs

you can see these are not manual casts because they're way too close to the other abilities http://puu.sh/KgZl6/eb0e66e547.png

[keen fulcrum]

oooo, so i'm shit for other reasons.

[buoyant salmon]

it was showing bloodbath and bloodthirst

back to back

doesnt happen all the time

[modest condor]

fair enough

[oak crest]

is fury going to be taking anger man in keys next week?

[queen linden]

Prob

sigh

Can barely get the burst off. Fighting for scraps out here

[tribal flint]

bladestorm ebfore adds come out

[queen linden]

A naked bladestorm? 🤢

It's only first the first egg break, he falls off afterwards

[tribal flint]

yeah you dont have buffs

idk

bind avatar into bladestorm and roar before adds die

i forgot they nerfed overwhelmed

what the fuck is even the point of that

like its not burst

nerf sustain and single target ???

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-huh-dog-gif-9454444978823724629

[acoustic yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-gif-19575282

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-car-garn-car-spin-car-spinning-gif-17215753214463376618

[frank dawn]

warrior tuning hasn't made sense in a long time

not sure why I thought it would be different

[velvet obsidian]

Blizzard dev sees warrior smash them in logs on a heroic dungeon
Spins wheel on random warrior ability/aura to nerf

This is warrior balancing

[torpid sand]

[frank dawn]

timer in that one pretty brutal

but ya know...24 deaths too xd

[runic violet]

whens our next nerf

[frank dawn]

tuesday my man

feels great

[near tide]

do we craft for 3rd spark?

[torpid sand]

timer went to shit right before last boss

tank couldn't handle the twins pull

those mobs that apply stacks

he got 10 stacks and instadied

[runic violet]

let me guess... crazy pulls on the adds

[torpid sand]

that fucked the whole run

we died like 8 times there

[wispy dock]

Did he not kite/stun them? Noob

[silk wharf]

Will hand of justice be in the celebration?

I can't seem to find a list of items

[clever path]

This key timer is insane, I almot ++ it with only 3 deaths, like you need to be perfect

[junior gale]

its not

[buoyant salmon]

just need to pull big

[orchid dagger]

Not with the same effect

[silk wharf]

is there a list of drops? There doesn't seem to be one in any of the posts about the event.

[junior gale]

there was one I remember looking at it on the week the patch was announced

[silk wharf]

I found one

Wooo

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/guide/world-events/20th-anniversary-event-blackrock-depths-raid-loot#plate

[rugged hill]

Ovinax Egg vs Arakara?

[muted temple]

I've been playing Classic and just started playing Retail after since 2019. Didn't realize my Loot Specialization was Prot? Did my weekly quest and got a 619 shield as Fury 🙂 Yay me

[vague copper]

Go prot, best specc for us... And soon best dmgspecc aswell

[muted temple]

I just generally don't enjoy tanking unfortunately. I've tried it, not something I'd pay a subscription for xD

[sudden tusk]

boss sucks

[modest condor]

grats

[analog zodiac]

I'm prepping for Mythic brood, going to be there for add killing, how should I be simming?

[hasty tide]

finally got unlazy and pugged my all 10s

[south kayak]

Congratulations

[storm rune]

huge

[feral ivy]

gratz

[fiery harbor]

rookie mistake, but we've all done it

[fiery harbor]

I'm just hoping anger management slayer will pull aheadof mountain thane, cus fuck mountain thane.

[velvet obsidian]

Heresy

We're clappers here now

[fiery harbor]

on prot its fun

[velvet obsidian]

Friendship ended with random autohit procs. We're lightning gods now.

💪 ⚡

[eager thorn]

just play slayer now then? its not like you have to play thane

its also not like either spec is insanely ahead of eachother its p much up to preference

[fiery harbor]

i get depressed when im not top dps tho

[eager thorn]

ye neither spec is really doing that much more than the other

[fiery harbor]

i need to top meters to feel good about myself

fair tho

[wispy dock]

We thunderclapping cheeks

[torpid sand]

[wispy dock]

There appears to be a very stronk trinket

[torpid sand]

grab 8 orbs

use mandate

[wispy dock]

New tech

[eager thorn]

not sure its worth running mandate in the full key just to cheese 1 mech though

[torpid sand]

it's... just what i have to use

i use treacherous and mandate

[wispy dock]

Poor guy trying his heart out

And u pooped all over him

[eager thorn]

:)

[modest condor]

does it actually do damage past the shield tho?

[torpid sand]

yep

[modest condor]

damn

[torpid sand]

hitted a 42M crit

[ivory ingot]

Damn imagine coordinating that shit

[eager thorn]

well you can't really

cos the only way you hit so high is by having all the orbs that enhance dmg to shield

[ivory ingot]

Alright bois mandate every shield

[torpid sand]

so...

[ivory ingot]

5 people can use it

[eager thorn]

is the buff permanent

[modest condor]

30 seconds or until the shield is broken

[torpid sand]

nah, ends after you destroy the shield

[eager thorn]

ye so stacking mandate to try to all do a funny big hit is just kinda shit

[ivory ingot]

Get 5 stacks hit trinket

Do a shitload of dmg

Nah not stack just use 1 mandate giga buffed per shield

[torpid sand]

impossible

[ivory ingot]

[fleet haven]

Is it time to switch to arms yet friends or what

[eager thorn]

why would we switch to arms

[torpid sand]

lmao arms

[summer quail]

nahh, arms getting more fucked than fury lol

[eager thorn]

i havent seen a single arms player in game this season

[orchid iron]

Arms sucks flaccid dicks

[fleet haven]

I’m sitting in the hospital

Need a distraction

Saw arms was higher on the wowhead thing

[torpid sand]

in single target, in raids

if that's the case, yeah, it's higher

[fleet haven]

Ah fuck that then

[summer quail]

alot of that is from rashanan. which is a joke coz wclogs

[fleet haven]

Thanks friends

[static rock]

So, did blizzard really give no mastery on any plate gear for BD raid anniversary patch?

Is there just no mastery on any of the gear or something?

[young swan]

can just rotate them

would be broken as fuck

"k im mandating this one"

[eager thorn]

ye i just assumed they meant use all 5 at once

[young swan]

1/3rd boss hp disappears

[eager thorn]

to like 1 shot the boss with buff

[young swan]

yeah prob cant do that

but u can do other silly shit

[eager thorn]

pretty funny it even hits that high

[young swan]

like letting 1 person per set fucking CRANK the boss

[static rock]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no mastery loot AT ALL in this raid... https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/guide/world-events/20th-anniversary-event-blackrock-depths-raid-loot

[modest condor]

i mean it caps at hero track anyway so the only interesting loot would be trinkets or cantrip items

[fickle bluff]

so mastery didnt exist until cataclysm

[static rock]

Got it, they were lazy and just slapped higher ilvl on this gear

[unreal onyx]

When is armor pen bis again

[gaunt moat]

gj bro

[buoyant salmon]

i do it every set as colossus prot

as colossus arms u can omega cook the boss i assume

[left perch]

+hit

[feral ivy]

re prog on bloodbound is always fun

[south kayak]

Yes.

[sick jungle]

hows brood nowadays

still hard?

[heavy nacelle]

reinforced-wax

ah this is fury 😛

[covert blaze]

did you kill as armge or fury

[sudden tusk]

Fury thane, but it was actually my worst pull of the night

it was legit cursed

[safe juniper]

quick question did the softcap on thunderous roar and OF in effect already ? or is 11.0.5 just a tool tip change

[summer quail]

next week

[gaunt moat]

no it's not in effect already

[safe juniper]

so

hmm

how are other classes still doing that damage but warrior getting nerfs over and over ?

[gaunt moat]

yes it's a big nerf for OF on big packs kinda irrelevant on roar

[covert blaze]

good question

[gaunt moat]

they're tuning us around the raid and ignoring everything else

[summer quail]

the roar nerf doesn't matter. OF nerf kinda sucks

[gaunt moat]

around this raid specifically

[safe juniper]

like i actually dont enjoy warrior in keys

[unreal onyx]

Woyer fuck op

I think we need a 4% aura nerf

[summer quail]

they are buffing enhance and frost dk 🙂

[gaunt moat]

when the next raid comes we'll be either dead spec or huge aura buff we'll see by then

[safe juniper]

yea

Enhance is my alt Im aboiut to think of changing it to main

[gaunt moat]

for now we're padding in raid and that's all we're good for

[summer quail]

we are incredible on ansurek mythic atleast, most important boss

[safe juniper]

I mean as of next week enhance is not only great in ST they are gonna be great in AOE cleave too

i was testing enhance i was summoning up to 8 wolves at a point

thats nutz

[gaunt moat]

i think that tuning a spec for tiny amount of players is a bad way to develop a spec but well i don't work at blizzard

[unreal onyx]

Or tier is insane

[safe juniper]

this is very unfortunate

i dont understand why frost dk is getting a buff

at all

they are pretty much needed in keys

and they do great damage in raid

[modest condor]

it's because they dont do their damage in 4 seconds like we do

[weary sail]

About 5 people on this discord here are on mythic ansurek. This is irrelevant

[safe juniper]

yea but in mythic raid it balances out no ?

[modest condor]

i was joking

[safe juniper]

on a fight like worm boss

[summer quail]

at the moment it is irrelevant sure

[wraith solstice]

is Mountain Thane the move in M+ now? I'm seeing everyone on murlok.io take MT over Slayer

[modest condor]

i think the tuning changes are dumb

[unreal onyx]

Design raid around burst dps, nerf burst-dps class

[safe juniper]

im sry i may have to make my warrior alt until they do something about it cause this constant nerf to the spec makes it very demoralizing to play

[wraith solstice]

disregard my comment I didnt realize FAQ was updated

[weary sail]

About 0.5% of the population get CE every tier

[unreal onyx]

How did they make an almost perfectly designed raid for fury and not see how fury would be on top

[summer quail]

yeah and majority of players don't even enter normal raid

[unreal onyx]

Just to nerf it to bottom dps in every case overall

[summer quail]

using the entire population of WoW isn't really a good argument imo as the average player is extremely casual

[safe juniper]

this is just too wild

we are on statistics above 3 dps

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

I know you're right

I'm just memeing lmao

[summer quail]

🤓

[safe juniper]

how do you see fury bottom 5 on statistics and then say hey we need to nerf them more

soon we will be doing Aug damage

[gaunt moat]

we're actually pretty good on the most important fights that's why, they don't see past that i think

[unreal onyx]

Overall, and bottom on ST

[safe juniper]

yea i know we are important on the most important fight ......

[unreal onyx]

Most ppl are not even close to queen myth I think

[safe juniper]

but like what are we to sit the fury warriors until we get there lol

[unreal onyx]

No way they design classes around like 100 players in the game

If that were the case, why is frost getting buffed then?

[safe juniper]

I mean honestly if i bank a tempest proc before the webs come out on Ansurek I can do so much damage to the webbings too

on enhance

now that i can also pop doomwinds on it too lol

[opaque lintel]

Lets be real. Blizz just roll some dices when balancing classes

Class changes makes absolutly no sense

[safe juniper]

maybe we just need to complain and cry like boomkins and afflictions do to make bliz listen

[south kayak]

or just reroll

[honest sundial]

They got gapped in their +6 keys by fury burst and decided to delete it

[unreal onyx]

Mages are S-tier every patch, DK got a lot of love in the past years too

[safe juniper]

LOL DK has been dominating with unholy in the past now they have frost as well

stupid

[unreal onyx]

Aug is essential in most high keys since it’s introduction

[opaque lintel]

We all know that the devs are mage/rogue mains

Theres no other way

[safe juniper]

honestly its literally gapped in HEROIC DUNGEONS

[gaunt moat]

Aug is a mistake

[safe juniper]

and bliz had to put a cal on it ....

[unreal onyx]

Hunters also usually have one very good spec

[safe juniper]

I think bliz needs to increase our rampage damage and perhaps cleave extended to 8 from 5

[summer quail]

tbf warrior usually has one very good spec as well. warrior owned in df

[opaque lintel]

Meh i think hunters took a big L in DF. Least in pvp

[safe juniper]

i think that would balance it

[opaque lintel]

Short while in s1 but thats it

[junior gale]

yeah its pretty rare for both arms and fury to both be complete ass

[south kayak]

It's so easy to fix fury sustain, buff rampage damage by like 10% or something and buff Execute by 50% or something

[junior gale]

doesnt happen often

[unreal onyx]

Owned is a bit of an exaggeration, it had its moments but overall nowhere near meta

[south kayak]

are devs not smart

[safe juniper]

I agree both rampage and execute has to be buffed (I wanna see execute being such an exciting button to push when i get them low) also cleave cap to 8 to balance out the burst aoe

we need more sustained aoe

like nerfing the burst sure but like give us more sustain

[gaunt moat]

ppl still thinking fury warrior uses exec on rashanan outside of 3 stacks

[south kayak]

Honestly, I'm not even sure if buffing execute by 50% would be enough for us to press it

[summer quail]

s1 arms in raid was top 5. for m+ in s2 fury was meta but then godcomp happened(unfortunate) was only in s2 where there wasn't a warrior spec in top 5 raid. idk bout you but i would call that owning

[next ruin]

It doesn't seem like it

[unreal onyx]

My rl still thinks it’s smart to br warrior in exe phase bc execute phase

[gaunt moat]

they should make exec cd longer but make it hits like a truck

50% wouldn't even make it above cb rn

with all the buffs it provides

[safe juniper]

execute should jus do like a % missing damage

lower they are more damage it does

[gaunt moat]

actually that's a nice idea

[safe juniper]

so you dont over buff it

the lower the target gets the heavier it hits so you want to press it

[weary sail]

Meanwhile Ret

[gaunt moat]

so it remains balanced on 3 stacks of slayer

and become good on low life

i love the idea

[summer quail]

this is what archi suggested for slayer instead of the 30% raging blow node

[south kayak]

What if Execute gives 2 stacks of Slaughtering Strikes?

[summer quail]

this is a 3% nerf btw

[static rock]

what the actual fuck

[gaunt moat]

they're losing 3% dmg from talents

overall

[safe juniper]

that would be god mode change

have you seen ret in keys

.....

[south kayak]

I've been having this idea of making Slaughtering Strikes more of a thing

[safe juniper]

they are disgusting

[south kayak]

like Survival now has tip of the spear

for most abilities

would be nice if there's some sort of Slaughtering Strikes thing

like BT and RB give 1 stack

Execute gives 2 or 3 stacks

pressing Reck gives u 5

etc

[safe juniper]

myabe buff our cold steel hot blood

more dot damage

give fury rend ?

[gaunt moat]

hell nah

[short cobalt]

hello is authority of radiant power more for aoe ?

[gaunt moat]

didn't onslaught used to do something like that? or it still does?

[next ruin]

They could do anything but they simply don't want to

[south kayak]

Tenderize does yeah

[buoyant salmon]

anything under ce doesnt matter for balancing even a little bit

[gaunt moat]

i like that we're not even talking number wise but purely gameplay wise

[safe juniper]

realistically how many people are getting CE ? we wanna make those playing at lower levels to enjoy the spec too no ?

[south kayak]

Yeah I know, I'm just gonna play another class until they do a rework because this ain't it, chief

[safe juniper]

not to jus get overpowered by frost dks Sin rogue enhance unholy ... so on and so forth

[south kayak]

like 5% of the playerbase?

[gaunt moat]

what you gonna play Box?

[safe juniper]

like its kinda gross

[south kayak]

Shaman

probably

[low folio]

So even with the compensation buffs, we will be weaker overall in keys ya

[weary sail]

L take because the vast majority of the population do M+

[safe juniper]

yea im swapping to shaman as well shes same ilvl as my warrior at this point

[south kayak]

it's not really a compensation buff

[next ruin]

It's crazy how much money we pay to get shit on by monkey dev that do not play the game

[south kayak]

we still haven't gotten one

[buoyant salmon]

not an l take i was CLEARLY talking about raid

anything under 12 doesnt matter for m+ balancing

[safe juniper]

you swappin to enhance too ?

[south kayak]

Enhance/Ele

[buoyant salmon]

wdym of course it is lol

[south kayak]

Ele rework looks spicy

[south kayak]

AM? no

[safe juniper]

I hear Ele is getting SUPER charged

[south kayak]

I wouldn't consider that compensation

[weary sail]

Enhance and FDK getting buffs

[south kayak]

compensation would be buffing rampage by 15%, Execute by 100%

and more BT/RB buffs

[buoyant salmon]

ele is UNBELIEVABLY broken on ptr

[south kayak]

next

[next ruin]

That's why most nerfs appear in beta or hero week I guess

[south kayak]

That got nerfed in the most recent build

[buoyant salmon]

like unbelievably disgustingly op

[buoyant salmon]

changed from 2 days ago? i havent looked into it yet

they were sustaining 15m+ dps on 5 targets though lmfao

[safe juniper]

hmmmmm NOT ENOUGH BUFF THEM MORE

[south kayak]

The yesterday patch notes came with a new PTR build so yeah

and I'm in the shaman discord

so I know

[teal coral]

how do people even pug broodtwister btw?

[buoyant salmon]

you kinda just dont

[safe juniper]

the passive wolf talent is SOOOO juicy

I had 10 wolves out when i tested it

[south kayak]

oh the gamble talent? lmao

[sage shadow]

s

[south kayak]

dunno if we're using that

[calm quartz]

s

[south kayak]

but yeah enha should get nerfed before .5 hits

s

[safe juniper]

iono i mena

its intended to proc that much

[low folio]

So basically just a big negative for fury this patch common up

Coming*

[safe juniper]

cause initially it barely summoned wolves

[safe juniper]

yup

[south kayak]

Stop playing warrior, I did that and my stress levels have reduced

[safe juniper]

I mean 70% of the time im doing keys and warrior is just not very fun anymore

im not bringing utility and now im not bringing damage to keys

[summer quail]

anger management becomes viable atleast, lil switchup

[safe juniper]

why bring a warrior

[low folio]

I mean I don’t like other classes so if I stop, it’s a different game. Which I’m already planning to try a new game soon

[next ruin]

RA still does more, still more reliable

[summer quail]

for slayer definetely. for thane we'll see

[south kayak]

he siad viable, not that it's better

[safe juniper]

honestly whoever is handling the warrior changes has NO CLUE what to do

needs to friggin nut up and tell the nay sayers to f off

[summer quail]

hahah, you must be new to warrior

[weary sail]

So why are FDK and Enhance getting buffs

[safe juniper]

I am

I had fun in S4 and decided to continue

[static spade]

first mistake

[low folio]

Isn’t there a technically stronger build for thane that doesn’t have OF. Might consider doing that build after the nerd

[safe juniper]

now its a downwards spiral

[gaunt moat]

dude is spitting venom rn

[south kayak]

PepeLa

[safe juniper]

of dissappointment

[molten wing]

Warrior is getting nerfed because of how OP our 11.1 tier set will be

[eternal sundial]

Youll be using am with the buff

[weary sail]

Reroll now before its too late

[eternal sundial]

Am alr does more aoe just piss bossdam

But itll gain

[safe juniper]

I bet its nerfed cause next expansion its gonna be OP

[eternal sundial]

[gaunt moat]

am + onslaught incoming

ppl not ready

[low folio]

I mean the math archi showed made ra still stronger in keys

[tidal kindle]

I haven't seen a discord

This doom

[south kayak]

please buff onslaught

[tidal kindle]

Over a class

[eternal sundial]

Doubt itll be OS

[tidal kindle]

For this period of time

Not even monk/sv hunter at their lowest

[safe juniper]

I have an enhance shaman already ready BIS

[gaunt moat]

lemme dream phil

[safe juniper]

so not a hard change

[tidal kindle]

[eternal sundial]

I mean sv are used to this

[summer quail]

for thane it did not

[eternal sundial]

Warrior less so i suppose

[molten wing]

honestly you haven't paid much attention to the havoc discord during some dark times in BFA and Shadowlands @tidal kindle

[tidal kindle]

I used to main dh

[weary sail]

FDK and Enhance are getting buffs btw

[tidal kindle]

I'm aware

[spice sage]

bet most people get over it when they add rashanan adds back to parses next week on wcl and it looks better on class stacks.

[tidal kindle]

The amount of doom was worse, but the length of time for doom

[molten wing]

well then this is nothing

[tidal kindle]

3 expacs going on 4?

[molten wing]

well with this much doom it probably means something ain't right , right ?

[low folio]

Well his post said they are equal but ra is easier

[south kayak]

No it's all fine guys

[gaunt moat]

Garms join the doom

[tidal kindle]

Nah you think you want buffs, but you don't

[eternal sundial]

From an arms POV i just want better gameplay

[molten wing]

[eternal sundial]

[slim coral]

who else is going dracthy tuesday

[gaunt moat]

we don't want buffs we want gameplay change

rampage hits harder exec hits harder plz

[safe juniper]

are they removing the bladestorm cap in 11.0.5?

[gaunt moat]

nerf cb its BORING

[summer quail]

yes please, this is my greatest wish. i used to love arms, this version is just not it

[tidal kindle]

🙋‍♂️

On my evoker

[slim coral]

I'm talking about on warrior my brother

[gaunt moat]

you automatically become a furry when you go dracthyr btw

i don't make the rules

[eager thorn]

Scaley

[eternal sundial]

Scalie

[eager thorn]

But p much same thing

[signal gyro]

I’m gonna get the new cosmetic t2 set and just pretend I’m doing good 🙂

[eternal sundial]

@eager thorn 🤝

[eager thorn]

🤝

[low folio]

DF arms was way better gameplay wise than tww

[covert blaze]

ngl i was thinking today that i really hope dracthyr sims worse than void elf

[modest condor]

dont let the furries and scalies see that

[eager thorn]

True

[eternal sundial]

Psure just mast isnt great

[molten wing]

Man i'm playing warrior in WoW and i'm getting cucked

[eternal sundial]

Over like gnome

[molten wing]

i go to Diablo 4

i play Barbarian

worst class this season

[gaunt moat]

warriors getting nerfed in every game !! hide yourselves!!

[molten wing]

catching strays left right and center

at least my Tahm Kench top is still not nerfed

[eternal sundial]

Baldur's Gate doesnt do class tuning

[gaunt moat]

i've a confession

[eternal sundial]

(monk is so op man it's unfair)

[gaunt moat]

i played paladin in baldur's gate 3

[eternal sundial]

Like everyone did

[safe juniper]

Is bladestorm being uncapped?

[summer quail]

laezel hard carried me in bg3. fighter owns

[eternal sundial]

I did my honor mode with barb fighter lock cleric

No b/meta builds

[gaunt moat]

did they?

i went full blind mode

[eager thorn]

No

[gaunt moat]

not checking any build or shit like that

just piss chilling

[eternal sundial]

They put out stats and like 30% of all Tavs were palas

Though the oath mechanic is BS

[tidal kindle]

Berserker in lost ark

[summer quail]

what about the female berserker? idk the name

[gaunt moat]

damn

[eternal sundial]

I mean for pala the "build" is to only dip 2 levels of it

And play something better

[covert blaze]

i miss that sometimes

[gaunt moat]

i may make a new game to try out monk

[tidal kindle]

Also shit now

[gaunt moat]

destroyer > Berserker

btw

[tidal kindle]

Or well not shit cuz it has modern-release buff

But weak

[south kayak]

imagine race changing based on sims

[tidal kindle]

Lower half

[eternal sundial]

There might be a feat where you get +5 to damage and attack rolls on monk level 4

So you cant miss ANYTHING

[gaunt moat]

wtf

[covert blaze]

berserker was so fun
goated game destroyed by greedy devs

[summer quail]

real. destroyer was so fun, i got yelled at for ignoring mechanics

[covert blaze]

imagine being Box

[eternal sundial]

If does require a consumable but monk does bonk

[south kayak]

I already am

I can imagine that

[gaunt moat]

do you know the feat name? 👀

[south kayak]

@covert blaze shaman reroll

[eternal sundial]

YOOOO

Baseg

[eternal sundial]

Tavern brawler

[gaunt moat]

the bigger the hammer the more happy i am

[eternal sundial]

Str monk opop

@covert blaze into the folder

[tidal kindle]

Eh

[south kayak]

oh god

[tidal kindle]

Not entirely devs

[south kayak]

it keeps happening

[covert blaze]

lmao

[tidal kindle]

Culture/community also played equal part imo

I count AGS mishandling as community

[covert blaze]

by devs i should say publisher maybe

[tidal kindle]

Yah

Fair

[covert blaze]

yeah that's what i meant

i used the wrong term

[safe juniper]

Ww buffs too

Omg

Everyones getting buffs