fury

[south kayak]

No I am in the ele channel, I know it is nerfed

[frigid zealot]

[mellow bloom]

ele shaman almost plays like ele on cata classic rn

[indigo arch]

Wild of training wheels spec ele saying that

Maybe if they were enh they'd be able to speak

[restive granite]

ppl saying fury warrior is easy and shit dont realize that every class is, if you struggle with your rotation cause "its too complex" you probably need a guardian before crossing the street

[winter shoal]

Bro fury is like top 3 easiest dps specs in the game

What is blud waffling about

[next ruin]

Spear am mountain thane, can't wait for next week

[frigid zealot]

did you say thrash

[indigo arch]

Every spec is ez

[mellow bloom]

being melee always pushes you into the DANGERZONE

wild holy palas appearing next to you in keys

[craggy sleet]

hardest part about fury is damaging your keyboard every expac

[south kayak]

Moonfire spam

[river viper]

So other classes can do max damage to 8 targets I just don't know how warrior is supposed to keep up in M+ its already difficult to compete with the current meta classes and now it seems like its going to be impossible unless you do everything perfectly. I just don't understand the logic that blizzard has when it comes to class changes.

[frigid zealot]

lets be real only hard spec in game is boomkin, because its so damn shit you have to keep focus during it

[livid marsh]

gotta love bosses with models the size of the twintowers while there are bombs spawning under them

[frigid zealot]

[forest owl]

i've broke numerous amount of keys playing fury but its probably just a shit keyboard xD

[mellow bloom]

size of twintower and hitbox of a pea

[livid marsh]

looking at mists endboss

[indigo arch]

How are ppl breaking keyboard

Fisherprice keyboards lmao

[inner shadow]

guys

mists weakaura

are bugged

wtf

[livid marsh]

mine works

[inner shadow]

give me

pls

[mellow bloom]

that was always kinda a fury problem, thats why in those insane big pull keys people went arms in df already

no clue how arms aoe is tho rn

[frigid zealot]

old but gold

[modest loom]

My duckyshine from 2014 still going strong, its surviving fury, ret & WW gameplay

[inner shadow]

@livid marsh can i have wa

please

[livid marsh]

https://wago.io/04YHZsxIO

if this one doesnt work i cant help ya

[gritty halo]

hey guys, do we know with the final changes, do we end up positive or negative in m+? or an exact %?

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[livid marsh]

definitely in the negative

[verbal rivet]

They now have at least 6 more reasons to not invite us

[gritty halo]

I saw that, but I am interested in a comparison between this week and next

[inner shadow]

i have

its bugged

[rigid minnow]

I mean dk is surely getting nerfed heavily, right? Surely

[past pivot]

Come back next week when numbers are locked in then

[rigid minnow]

so we will be better than them

[young swan]

#updates-midnight message

[signal gyro]

20th anniversary raid will come out... dk's will be top, they will get our treatment for first week of heroic, cycles reverse, fury still bottom

[next ruin]

@young swan that would be spear + berserker torment + 2x VC no of no roar ? Do you see some other things on top of your head for a full prio based build?

[verbal rivet]

Reroll Feral, Trust

[livid marsh]

well idk then

[young swan]

nah those are the big ones

[frank rover]

ok so whats going on

[young swan]

I actually tried that build right after thane got buffed

[frank rover]

why are we being nerfed again

who here is saying warrior is op

[young swan]

but didnt have great results (was probably playing it wrong)

[next ruin]

And there wasn't the AM buff yet

[verbal rivet]

It was all those spear parses on Rash smh. Had to ST pad too much

[young swan]

yeah, although I dont think im gonna play AM

think RA is too strong

[rigid minnow]

the people at blizz dont like what kinda people play warrior, thats why they are nerfing it.

only gigachads play warrior

we too strong

[frank rover]

it genually feels like

[frigid zealot]

blizzard don't play warrior is what you should have said

:kekw

[frank rover]

i need to upgrade and greed for gear

so i outdamage the nerfs

[next ruin]

If warriors are top 1 in m+, esp arms, there would be too many giga Chad / alt right tiktok edits of wow. They're not letting it happen

[signal gyro]

Didn't they release a graphic of most played classes or something and warrior was top? maybe nerfing us so hard gets the FoTM people away and then they rebalance? (Pure Copium Again)

[rigid minnow]

at this pace you would need to greed on gear from next raid to outdamage nerfs

[covert blaze]

[warm crag]

what the fuck are you saying

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025016929813016606/1269989858915520564/Wtf_dont_DO_THA.gif

[frank rover]

ok so what are we good at now

[warm crag]

raid

[next ruin]

It's less funky now

[frigid zealot]

exactly what we was good at before

[past pivot]

transmog

[nimble ermine]

same thing we were good at before

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-kiss-suck-girl-gif-5525710854024677285

[livid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[frank rover]

r u guys gonnna say what it is

[oblique trail]

We are really good in raid right now, good in M+

[frigid zealot]

[frigid zealot]

it is what it is

[frank rover]

cuz the only good thing ab warrior right now is being declined

over a frost dk

[clever belfry]

hmm i disagree

[next ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-humor-ben-shapiro-gif-23142576

[oblique trail]

Anda I think you should go kaboom :3

[signal gyro]

You 100% have a joker pfp on facebook

[frank rover]

im out bursting my warrior on my alt warlock by pressing 3 spells

[vale dove]

we playing Ravager in M+ Thane now?

[frank rover]

i hate m+ thane

[oblique trail]

You've basically always played that

[frank rover]

it feels horrible

[oblique trail]

BS has way too high a chance to overcap your TBs during CDs

[frank rover]

the overall damage his higher

[fickle bluff]

missing the "made by reddit" watermark

[frank rover]

but the intervene shield is so small it might as well not exist

[next ruin]

You're taking a Ben Shapiro discord gif seriously dog

[signal gyro]

This makes me wanna play fury less

[signal gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-why-so-serious-serious-gif-11972349

[vale dove]

ye i dno why i asked that

[covert blaze]

lmfao

[vale dove]

i have always played Ravager with Thane 😂

[frank rover]

ok so what fights are we good on in raid

[fickle bluff]

ovinax

[signal gyro]

Queen

[rigid minnow]

you dont like beefy sweaty muscular men? What are you even doing with your life

[frigid zealot]

anything with adds you can snipe faster than the rest of your raid

[signal gyro]

I like my women looking like they can beat me up, and my men looking like women, i'm a simple man

[next ruin]

All of them

[frigid zealot]

its ok guys

fury can pad on rash next week again on logs

:saved::blessed::cope:

[tidal kindle]

right now

[frank rover]

i got like a 30 parse

cuz ads on rashan didnt count

[tidal kindle]

[frank rover]

i was the only one assigned to aoe

[oblique trail]

We will still be really good in raid in a week

M+ not so much

[young swan]

ulgrax, bloodbound, rash, ovi, silken, ansurek

[warm crag]

hit boss harder

[frigid zealot]

the bosses that actually matter

[warm crag]

u can r1 with add damage timings

[frank rover]

im not gonna troll if my whole job was killings ads tho

[young swan]

ovi silken ansurek

[frigid zealot]

last 2

[young swan]

silken ansurek

[frigid zealot]

real

[tidal kindle]

Thane silken is surprisingly strong

[young swan]

yeah it fucks

HARD

[tidal kindle]

Surprising in the sense it's constant 2T

[frigid zealot]

if the class you play sucks at last 2 bosses

it honestly feels worse

[tidal kindle]

The adds are kinda inconsequential

[warm crag]

you can do good bossdamage while perfectly aligning your cds with add spawns shrug

[frank rover]

go on

u cant use ur cds on pull cuz u wont have them for first set of ads

[warm crag]

yes im aware

[frank rover]

after movement it lines up perfectly with ads

[next ruin]

Is there a build where we actually do more damage in m+ or are the whole changes pure bait

[frank rover]

the nu can freely use cd's on 3rd movement

[warm crag]

i still got a 95 and anda got a r1 with the 0:45 avatar timer

[frigid zealot]

first adds are the biggest set to pad

[eager thorn]

i got 93 tonight using cds on adds, definitely doable

[oblique trail]

I got a 19 tonight following @clever belfry 's CD timers

[eager thorn]

i just send of on lust and hold till he flies n spawns more

[oblique trail]

I think he's baiting

[night relic]

ur team should just hold lust so u can pad harder on adds 🤷‍♂️

[eager thorn]

being only fury would help but i feel like adds live a lil long if i only use 2 cds

[next ruin]

Go arms and be #1

[clever belfry]

i think

ure just skill issued?

[eager thorn]

not from wednesday it wont be

[clever belfry]

bro... is this my salvation.. from arms???

[polar narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/nairaman-pg13-swag-paul-george-gif-22712659

patiently waiting for wowhead to post guide writer's review for warrior changes

[oblique trail]

I think you should stop using timers that will lead to bad parses for other people!!!

[next ruin]

Can't wait for that spear m+ build

[oblique trail]

There already is one

Have tried it

Can not recommend

For it feels like to play

[acoustic fulcrum]

Warrior AoE nerfs 😓

[young swan]

yes

[frozen marten]

Going to start DPS’ing in Prot spec.

[clever belfry]

was this about rash or what

[next ruin]

Do we have any build actually gaining damage next week, are things even changing

[oblique trail]

yes

[clever belfry]

i dont even know what ure refering to imma b real

i mean

just play better

xd

?

[oblique trail]

I am

making a joke

(I also just straight up got assassinated because of threat)

[clever belfry]

wtf banezi animated pfp

[acoustic fulcrum]

One of the lowest ST damage and we cant even have good AoE damage

[oblique trail]

abusing nitro privileges

(privileges of wasting money)

[clever belfry]

hmm maybe i just spec thane

on wendesday

[oblique trail]

I think I will spec Thane on Sunday even though we have a confirmed kill anyway

👍

It will prob feel infinitely better than w/e Arms is

[clever belfry]

idk esp on that boss

arms feels

[frank rover]

whos the prodigy that said were top tier

what is this

[clever belfry]

excruciatingly bad

[frank rover]

were being sent to the twisting nether

[oblique trail]

Legit anyone

Who has played the raid

And has a semblance of a brain

[nimble ermine]

i havent touched arms this expansion

how cooked is it

[clever belfry]

me when i link a graph without it saying what it is

[nimble ermine]

i dont think i heard 1 good thing about it lmao

[clever belfry]

with 0 public ansurek parses

:))

oh wait no theres one

and fury is on top

damn!

[normal bane]

And rashanan being changed

[eager thorn]

ye that'll help

[oblique trail]

People will look at the weekly wowhead posts about the statistics and think they're gospel for the state of a class in raid

[normal bane]

We had the argument earlier dw

[oblique trail]

It's been had a gazillion times

It's very evident whenever someone brings it up they really don't know how to determine the value of a spec in the raid

[normal bane]

Ansurek aoe is pad 🤡

[next ruin]

Good in raid, his niche useful. Weird in m+ but fine

The problem is arms tho

[oblique trail]

Arms doesn't exist for all I care

[clever belfry]

blud does not know anything about mythic i see 👍

[eager thorn]

who cares abt arms this is fury channel

[oblique trail]

I've played it on prog multiple times now

And currently am on Court

The spec feels like ballsacks to play

[normal bane]

That was sarcasm, that's what the clown emoji was for

[oblique trail]

And I'm thankful that it's only "good" on so few bosses

[clever belfry]

i think arms is semi okay on single target

add any more

[oblique trail]

You could reasonably play Fury on all bosses rn and do more than fine, ST bosses included

[clever belfry]

and its absolute travesty

[oblique trail]

I will definitely admit that a good portion of my hate for Court is playing Arms on it

[normal bane]

Arms not being bis on 2t is a tragedy

[oblique trail]

But the fight itself is also just ass

[tidal kindle]

Pre .5 patch
Fury doomed there too next week gg
||/s||

[native wadi]

They buffin pink warr 6%

Wtf?

[next ruin]

It's an aura buff cause the talent changes make them lose a lot of damage

[warm crag]

this is a 20% overall nerf did you read the patch notes

[native wadi]

Obviously not all of it

Hahahaha

Do you think im a mage?

So whats the move for m+ if i dont wanna play dk

[night relic]

Femboy

Sorry I meant aug

[native wadi]

Kinda want an alt

[eager thorn]

fury warrior #2

[native wadi]

Im fine with gay but aug is too gay

[frank rover]

ok i need a prodigy warrior curator to explain how to play this

doesnt this mess up harmony of avatar n reck

[oblique trail]

https://www.twitch.tv/banezio/clip/SpoopyAlertVampireItsBoshyTime-hcyfD0NIp5ErPovz @tidal kindle thoughts?

[nimble ermine]

you spend rage

[warm crag]

are you the guy who spent 1700 valorstones on upgrading a mythic weapon

[frank rover]

and makes it so that reck doesnt sync with trinkets

[oblique trail]

I actually think twitch is the worst site to mankind

[night relic]

Uuuh haven’t dropped one yet

So no

[warm crag]

gg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025016929813016606/1269989858915520564/Wtf_dont_DO_THA.gif

[clever belfry]

nice clip nerd

[oblique trail]

yes

[warm crag]

have you considered this?

[oblique trail]

As I said

Twitch is fucking dogshit

thoughts

[warm crag]

pull out your phone and try to say this @oblique trail

[oblique trail]

takes 7 tries to even attempt to make a clip

[warm crag]

i want a voice message

[next ruin]

2:50min of ball shaving ads is something

[oblique trail]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2278384907?t=03h22m53s @tidal kindle

[oblique trail]

red doom

I'm feeling some doom rn for sure

[tidal kindle]

[inner shadow]

imma go reroll to a dk or rogue
they are both <610

[night relic]

Skillith issueth

[digital mauve]

what's your ilvl?

[inner shadow]

620

kjekw

[next ruin]

So to conclude, next week aoe thane builds are getting a 2% ST buff, and that's it?

[digital mauve]

rip

[heavy dock]

i was like wtf is this then i realised its lost ark

what boss is that lol

[oblique trail]

I think it's Red Doom Narkiel

[inner shadow]

indeed

[heavy dock]

yea ok but

im sure thats part of a raid

[warm crag]

the 606 trinket goes so fucking hard

bosskiller MACHINE

[heavy dock]

that was legit me

last week

[warm crag]

tbf that trinket shreds st for its ilvl iirc

[warm crag]

red doom merkel

[north edge]

I lost to a 610 FDK in a 11 key today , ama

I’m 627

[night relic]

Ritual knife clears 🥱

[warm crag]

ok how do i reliably get a ritual knife at hc track

[night relic]

Uuuh

Run delve

[warm crag]

no

[nimble ermine]

gamble

[warm crag]

farming myth track boes is a better use of my time

[mossy fox]

if only we could still kill zekvir 8 times for vault

[night relic]

Until I go insane

[warm crag]

ok but if you pick a delve item from vault you need immediate psychological evaluation

unless you're ranged and pull the broken trinket

[mossy fox]

who knows maybe you get potato vault

[tidal kindle]

I've picked 2....

[night relic]

Myth track delve when

[clever belfry]

L

[warm crag]

?

[tidal kindle]

Candlestick voker

[warm crag]

melee should get access to wayne thoughts

[clever belfry]

wayne = goat

🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐

🕯️ 🐐 🕯️ 🐐 🕯️ 🐐 🕯️ 🐐

[warm crag]

🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐
🕯️ 🐐 🕯️ 🐐 🕯️ 🐐 🕯️ 🐐

[tidal kindle]

And knife on warrior

[sullen dove]

perhaps just acquire knife from map week 1?

[night relic]

Ascendancy serum and concockoction just clears any other trinket

[sullen dove]

ascendance stupid as shit

puzzlebox but worse cuz 2 minute

[frank rover]

whats the addon that lets u see what isnt enchanted

[tidal kindle]

I have seen

[frank rover]

also nice trinket king

[tidal kindle]

0 maps

[warm crag]

noob

[night relic]

Idk open ur eyes?

[warm crag]

i had like 5 first week

[tidal kindle]

Brother I am indian

Christopher Columbus stole them all

[tidal kindle]

I am also blind so I take extra offense to this

[paper meadow]

is transmiter good in m+?

[tidal kindle]

||(I don't actually)||

Yes

Transmitter owns

[oblique trail]

Yes very

[paper meadow]

👍🏻

[night relic]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=445352/gleeful-glamour-human

[worldly pulsar]

did they buff slayer again?

[next ruin]

Nerf

[oblique trail]

It got buffed the opposite way 👍

[north edge]

brother we got like a 37% nerf to our aoe burst

[warm crag]

i curse you with sisyphus prime in the morning

[worldly pulsar]

I went over to thane yesterday, but today I see slayer warriors doing good again

or a couple days ago

[oblique trail]

I curse you with going kaboom

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail i hope u have been making good use of goat glamours

[oblique trail]

It's been doing good since forever

[warm crag]

Die!

[oblique trail]

I have used them on CD almost

Except when jorking in town

[warm crag]

yellow man jorks "it" in town?

[oblique trail]

In public in fact

[frank rover]

why are all the warrior streamers

playing anything else but fury

wtf is TEA

that game looks absolutely horrid

[young swan]

most of the EU dudes are asleep and noxiv hasnt logged on

[oblique trail]

It's FF14

[next ruin]

And aqmon is banned

[oblique trail]

?

The guy hasn't played this game since he was born

[warm crag]

i agree asmongold should get the warrior streamer role

so all of skyhold knows when hes about to talk about culture war talking point #34

[next ruin]

Relax

[oblique trail]

I think you should roleplay explosions

[warm crag]

bomm!!!

holy moly jackie is playing fruy in the auction house

[next ruin]

Too many good answers, but all of them are ban worthy

[mossy fox]

hibernating until next week

[oblique trail]

why is this Critcake guy not streaming that I heard so much about

maybe he's not such a big shot anyway

[frank rover]

everytime i open critcake stream

he playing dk

[warm crag]

i hate this critical strike confectionary guy he ruined warrior

he gave me the cd timers for p2 hc ansurek to get r1 tho 👍

[north edge]

what makes next week any better? we're getting more nerfs

[next ruin]

One week closer to Xmas

[summer quail]

ye, coz frost is getting buffed next week. they are too weak rn. he only plays classes that aren't meta

[hard widget]

Atleast AM feels nice

[oblique trail]

one week closer to being done with the raid tier

[hard widget]

U feel shit but nice at the same time

[cyan estuary]

is the nerf the reduced targets thing?

[summer quail]

ye

and overwhelm stacks

[next ruin]

And direct slayer nerfs also

[north edge]

didnt archi say its like 2-3% still behind RA in multitarget cleave still

[next ruin]

What is 2% when you do 35% less

[summer quail]

just play AM thane

[oak peak]

For slayer, yes

[mossy fox]

i just wanna play AM cause it's different

[warm crag]

die AM die

[mossy fox]

619 transmitter 626 egg

[warm crag]

i think you should not use ovinax egg

[frank rover]

sir

[oblique trail]

I think you should loot a higher than 619 transmitter

[north edge]

egg is so hard to maintain

[mossy fox]

i think so too but it didn't drop man

[oblique trail]

in the vault

[warm crag]

i think you should stop flexing with your 632 ilvl immediately?

[mossy fox]

could just mark of khardros when burst isn't important

[oblique trail]

I think you should explode

Anda is still 83 ilvl higher than me

[warm crag]

wrong! you are actually higher ilvl than him now

[arctic sinew]

Have you considered having more luck?

[mossy fox]

i'm huge

not as huge as anda

[oblique trail]

Crit is higher ilvl than me

With a 619 transmitter?

I think this is unreal

[mossy fox]

nah i cheated with my 626 khardros for that ss

also i played AH goblin spec

[warm crag]

i think all of you should be behind bars with that ilvl

[oblique trail]

I am full BoE equipped

So this fact does not make me feel better about my inferiority

[mossy fox]

did you have sikran neck and rasha cloak too

[oblique trail]

I do

[mossy fox]

i got rasha cloak this week but stuck with 619 neck

[oblique trail]

Broodtwister dropped no loot

So I am still using my measly 619 m+ ring

[warm crag]

was weird ye you went to loot broodkeeper and it just didnt drop items

[oblique trail]

Yeah idk

writing ticket

[mossy fox]

bro 2x broodtwister rings dropped and i still didn't win

[warm crag]

hows court prog @mossy fox

are you as depressed as the rest of us or still hanging in there

[mossy fox]

it's okayge we got past the intermission a few times and best pull was uh

59%

i'm trying thane fury there and have been getting 1.9m at the start of intermission

idk if that's good cause i haven't tried anything else yet

[oblique trail]

Best pull so far I've had 1.7 mill going into 1st intermission

[pale flax]

Hey, sorry trying to get better with Fury, what talents should I be using? I follow the icy veins page, but feel like I'm not getting the DPS I should be. If anyone can help it would be awesome

[warm crag]

im swapping to thane fury idk im just dealing 10% less damage than the other warrior

[oblique trail]

It's impossible for me to get higher

I'm simply just too shit at Arms I think

[mossy fox]

man i considered arms but i just cba

[oblique trail]

If you're using whatever's recommended on Icy Veins (haven't looked but should be updated), then it's very likely just you not understanding the priority

I will swap to Thane on Sunday

It's kill regardless of my damage

But Thane at least should make me not want to shoot myself (in the video game)

Arms is really just not fun

[frank rover]

[pale flax]

Alright thanks

[balmy shore]

why cba

[frank rover]

arms sucks

[mossy fox]

arms feels like poop

i don't think any damage buffs can change that

[oblique trail]

I'd recommend looking through the rotation guide, either on Wowhead or Icy veins, both made by the same guy, and make sure you understand it

[mossy fox]

not that arms is getting buffed but yeah

[jaunty sapphire]

real shit

[delicate yacht]

Can we pin this

[tidal kindle]

Colossus feels good when I get it right

[oblique trail]

But rule of thumb the priority would look like
Execute with 3x MfE stacks > CB > BB > Rampage > RB > BT in ST
Execute with 3x MfE stacks > BB > CB > Rampage > BT > RB in AoE
This applies to both Thane and Slayer realistically

[tidal kindle]

But I only got it right like

4-5x

In 3 hrs

[warm crag]

in court or in general

[tidal kindle]

Court

[warm crag]

i think i need to do a key as demo arms

i havent had a single dmeolish hit hard lmao

[oblique trail]

I think you shouldn't

[tidal kindle]

It's just timings

[pale flax]

I have, and I feel like I follow it pretty well. I think I need to execute more maybe

[oblique trail]

Since Arms in keys

Is really not a fun experience

[tidal kindle]

If my MS doesn't crit enough

I dont' get demo back in time

And I'm thinking of going shopping at rope.com

[warm crag]

okay interesting but i read here in fury chat that fury is DEAD in m+ literally worse than tanks so what should u play? huh?

[oblique trail]

As Slayer you'd only really Execute at 3x Marked for Execution stacks (can be other scenarios, but rule of thumb)

[pale flax]

Oh I didn't realize BB was such high prio, thanks for that

[tight magnet]

i guys i have question how much i must have mastery and haste?

[oblique trail]

It's a basic priority, but it will do more than fine without worrying about small optimisations

Which I'd argue is best saved when you understand the spec better

[tidal kindle]

However much mr raidbots tells you to in your top gear sim

[warm crag]

mr raid roboter

mr simulation craft

[pale flax]

I might just be overcapping my rage honestly.

[oblique trail]

That happens very easily, and you want to overcap if it means you use your Reckless Abandon abilities

It sounds counterintuitive

[pale flax]

True....

[oblique trail]

During CDs especially, just accept your rage will be capped, there's no avoiding it

[pale flax]

Oh 100%

Recklessness gets you almost capped immediately and then one generator puts you over

[torpid seal]

You guys choosing bracers or cloak for your 2nd crafted piece?

[oblique trail]

Wrists

But it's a per-character basis

Some have great cloaks and wrists, but mediocre/bad boots/belt

[warm crag]

belt can be a nice choice if you got good socketed wrists

[oblique trail]

Would argue Wrists > cloak (at least if you wont be raiding mythic) > belt > boots in terms of crafting priority

[warped osprey]

did something change between yesterday and today?, I felt like im hitting less than yesterday _ not more than tomorrow tho_

[oblique trail]

Nothing has changed no

[torpid seal]

Yeah mythic raids are not in the picture for me, thanks for the insight

[warm crag]

they deployed a hotfix specifically nerfing your character anni, sorry

you were simply doing too much damage

@oblique trail i had a really nice pear today

[oblique trail]

very happy for you bestie

[median dust]

Man key pugging is the worse I've ever seen it. meta inbalance is so fcking bad right now that you can't even get into a key if you're not red, blue, or pink

atleast we are getting nerfed tuesday. that'll make it easier to get into keys. thanks blizzard

[young swan]

trying to q into anything 12+ is fucking doomed

[median dust]

Dude it's literally doom

I've never seen it like this

[young swan]

like 10s and 11s are mostly fine if ur high-ish io + ilvl

12s are just hard walled

makes me want to commit die

[median dust]

And there is an abysmal amount of 11's because all the FOTM trash cans brick their keys lol

[serene vessel]

chat whats going on with the balance this tier

[young swan]

its fucked

[serene vessel]

why is it getting worse when it was already bad

enh is apparently simming almost 2 mil now with the anniversary patch?

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-aww-shucks-goofy-bashful-gif-16177836

[oblique trail]

Xeos voodoo wcyd

hate the guy

[dapper goblet]

more guilds running double warrior than double enhance

[oblique trail]

Warriors wont even be ran next patch dw

[serene vessel]

thats because no one wants to play enh

[oblique trail]

Our Sikran kill tonight had no Bshout

It's just the beginning

[serene vessel]

imagine ur class fantasy being a bitch ass orc shaman that went and cried into the maelstrom

https://tenor.com/view/spit-it-out-spit-disgusting-gif-16413711

[dapper goblet]

the tears of warriors fill the maelstrom

[serene vessel]

im mage

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[serene vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[wispy mural]

Warrior cry too much. ||Me included|| I've played the same warrior since 2005 through all the good and all the bad. I rarely remember the DPS and I always remember being the Chad. I would always rather play my warrior than any other dumb class

[sullen dove]

xeos when both shaman specs are better than both warrior specs in all content

20mil 5target aoe ele btw

poggers

[brittle crow]

do we still take culling cyclone on ansurek

post-nerf

[sudden tusk]

https://imgur.com/ccu7dbw

https://imgur.com/ccu7dbw

[feral ivy]

thats a bug?

[gritty sigil]

i have a few basic questions on rotation/prio. say i use rampage and then use my empowered crushing blows, if i dont get an empowered reset proc, do i use bloodbath or normal raging blows. 2nd question. if im capped at 130 rage. is rampage or empowered crushing blows prio

[pulsar quest]

Even after weeks I still don’t really understand the logic of these nerfs

Like what they were really needed for

Talking about just the next patch ones

If RA is still above AM…seems kinda pointless

Playstyle just like..isn’t going to change

Just gonna be less strong

[next canopy]

Warrior stronk.

[gritty sigil]

apes together strong

[winter shoal]

1. Reckless Abandon only gives you one use each of Crushing Blow and Bloodbath, there are no "resets". So in almost every case you'll rampage -> CB -> BB
2. If you're enraged, use your CB (but not RB), if you're not enraged then refreshing enraging is more important than using your CB

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[summer quail]

st nerf overall btw

[feral ivy]

😦 i want more ppl to q

[gritty sigil]

for empowered i meant opportunist hero talent not RA but i see ty

[winter shoal]

I'm p sure playing around opportunist is bait

Also fierce sims better for me rn anyways so /shrug

[gritty sigil]

hmm

[hard widget]

Yeah dont bother playing around it

Just play ur rotation

[gritty sigil]

ok ty

[weak tartan]

11.0.5 is with next reset right?

[winter shoal]

Ye

[turbid bay]

Is anger management looking spicy next patch?

[hard widget]

Define spicy

[winter shoal]

#updates-midnight message

[turbid bay]

Big damage

[hard widget]

Define big

[gritty sigil]

also another dumb question. doesnt really change the way i play but curious for calcs. when something says its an increase to raging blow dmg (like hero talent slayers malice), is it inferred that it also increased crushing blows dmg?

[gleaming siren]

shoutout to all my pear

[hard widget]

Pretty much always does it translate over to the empowered versions

[winter shoal]

Yes except if it specifically says it doesn't affect CB (like tuesday's patch notes)

[hard widget]

Unless specified

[gritty sigil]

tyty

[young swan]

target was too long

[hard widget]

Xan

I need ur help

[young swan]

whats up

[hard widget]

I cant decide

[young swan]

shaman

[hard widget]

That was suspiciously fast

[young swan]

im making a shaman

so

im biased

u know

[hard widget]

Kekw

Enha or Ele?

[young swan]

idk what name to use tho

ele

[hard widget]

I mean

Thats kinda edging urself

[young swan]

enh has too many buttons for my smooth ass brain

[hard widget]

Its like good

But not good good

[young swan]

looks more fun to me

and does epic dam

[hard widget]

Why not try FDK if u cant handle buttons?

[young swan]

all i care about

[hard widget]

It literally has 3 buttons

[young swan]

i dont like the way it plays

[hard widget]

And 1 of em u barely press

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/im_in_unbearable_pain-gif-19322763

[hardy cargo]

they alr patched that ele burst im p sure btw

[hard widget]

I was thinking Sin rogue

[mossy fox]

i keep hearing good things about udk

[hard widget]

But it looks complicated

[young swan]

rogue is a weird class

cant ever recommend it

[hard widget]

I found it to do a bit shitty in st situations in m+

[sudden tusk]

outlaw is fun

[hard widget]

Might have been the nplayer tho

[mossy fox]

i'll try at some point but my fdk owns now

[sudden tusk]

ill try UH once i have enough sparks for the weppy

[hardy cargo]

last I tried sin rogue the only thing I didnt like abt it was the shiv windows

[hard widget]

Never tried sin rogue

[winter shoal]

Linc has been gassing it up hard

[sudden tusk]

worst part about gearing my FDK is getting trinkets

[hard widget]

Boomie could be a cook too

Boomie always seems to weasle their way into the highest keys

[young swan]

uhdk is fucking busted in giga pulls

[hard widget]

And if they suck, tettles will just make 500 video's till they buff it

[covert blaze]

Ret

[slim grotto]

paid class change when??

[hard widget]

Ret wasnt in there 😦

[mossy fox]

my fdk is has transmitter and ovinax egg

[sudden tusk]

ngl might as well name everything 5TargetGAP

since we dont do shit for damage even at 5

[mossy fox]

both annoying trinkets wahoo

[sudden tusk]

eggers

[hard widget]

🥄

[covert blaze]

Make it so

[mossy fox]

i bought transmitter tbf and i dont know how i got the egg

[sudden tusk]

ive been trying to farm grim batol trink/ ring

[hard widget]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-obi-wan-gif-10973435

[sudden tusk]

but its been pain

[hard widget]

Ew that mustve cost u quite a bit

[mossy fox]

small loan of 450k

[covert blaze]

Ret very funny spec

[hard widget]

450k is actually surprisingly low priced

[covert blaze]

Press your CD twice in a row and do a billion damage

[hardy cargo]

hi zhai

[covert blaze]

hallo

[fading bane]

ret is getting a 3% nerf with patch overall

[winter shoal]

disgusting

[mossy fox]

thats the build i play in m+ at 625 ilvl

seemsokayman

[young swan]

that is not normally

[hard widget]

I mean FDK will be dog for a few years again after the season is over

[hardy cargo]

damn gripcake within 20k of my 629 war in full st build what the

[mossy fox]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e3GB2YWvy67Q6Yfw11Lfmy

this is if i cough up gold for boes

helm and boots

[humble plover]

ok

[hardy cargo]

ok gripcake ahead of me now pog

[young swan]

think gripcake is ahead of xantaga

[humble plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dEVfpQ7Hw3v9H8B8yr2dCX

[young swan]

very normal

[humble plover]

pov, ur happy ur above 1300

gripcake shows up

[mossy fox]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bEp2cbm9womFqSeEbExM5s

[humble plover]

weppy diff

where stick

https://tenor.com/view/confused-john-travolta-what-gif-5114829

[mossy fox]

change to fierce instead of opp

[winter shoal]

real

fierce cracked now

actually opportunist is just beans

[turbid bay]

How much of a increase?

[mossy fox]

idk a decent amount

[final birch]

Can i get rash cloak mayhaps

[winter shoal]

Was like 5k for me

[turbid bay]

Welp aight ill switch then

[winter shoal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pWF64MCnxEGVt9QAKSZcPN

[turbid bay]

Also weppy diff

[mossy fox]

that was from a sim i ran mid raid

[turbid bay]

I dont wana check my sims

[hard widget]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4burKSbSuAf2iJpZkHtzDV

[humble plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dKGG2mrgs8sdcmAoEuUTju we up like 6k

[young swan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1weHRg1dfBgTAcW7WHdCGz

[mossy fox]

i vaulted it

[final birch]

I vaulted mythic mark from gb

[young swan]

granted im not spending crests this week

[final birch]

Mark>transmitter

[feral ivy]

in m+ is it better to use wings of shattered sorrow and the neck from 3rd boss?

[mossy fox]

how does fierce interact on aoe btw

[final birch]

Dont wanna run around chasing orbs

[young swan]

any crit gives the buff

[mossy fox]

holy

[humble plover]

thats pog

[turbid bay]

Or u luck and get jump

[young swan]

yeah its giga

[hardy cargo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ffu8vFdy8RquYvvxnH2BmK pov better than xantaga if I recraft for raid

[mossy fox]

i guess it's to make up for the fact that old bloodcraze was the opposite

[balmy shore]

@young swan killed broodtwister and phased (rat) pinged me

[slim grotto]

I ran my buddy's fresh toon thru heroic and he took brood ring from me safe to say, no longer friends

[young swan]

[humble plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gXfHWQ8KVMGAUdjDjTUjYa look how much cuter i am if ulgrax dropped more than 1 weapon

[young glacier]

Why are we getting nerf and fuck1ng rest of classes like ret paladin gets a % buff?

[turbid bay]

Weppy diff

[hardy cargo]

its a compensation buff, net nerf

[young glacier]

What the hell is happening

[mossy fox]

ret got an overall nerf

3%

[balmy shore]

tell him he's a rat

[young glacier]

OH thanks god, i didnt want to read that fuck all patch

just read 5% + dmg xD

thanks crit

[young swan]

i linked him the screenshot of u pinging me

he knows

[young glacier]

And how's going frostdk with

changes?

Gripcake

[mossy fox]

frostdk is apparently a net buff with the patch changes lmao

[balmy shore]

ty

[turbid bay]

[sudden tusk]

what is fierce

[hardy cargo]

linc said 5% but I havent seen anything past that xdd

[turbid bay]

What the actual fuck

[serene vessel]

Same with enh

[mossy fox]

choice node opportunist

[sudden tusk]

oh

is that on ptr

or live

[young glacier]

wtf

[mossy fox]

i linked this earlier but

[young glacier]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[mossy fox]

dk is so cracked

[humble plover]

[mossy fox]

this was nw12 or 13 i dont remember

[hardy cargo]

hoooly which dng is this

[humble plover]

bad critcake, critcake go potty outside

[hardy cargo]

jk

[forest owl]

The fact that fdk has been left as-is shows they will happily gutter some classes and let others reign supreme

[serene vessel]

Oh don't worry they also buffed arcane too

And nerfed fire

[young glacier]

Do they overall buff arcane + dk

._.

[hardy cargo]

fire supposedly gonna be near us on ST after the nerfs

[serene vessel]

Fire gonna be below

I think

It's like a 7% nerf

[mossy fox]

what why did they murder fire

[serene vessel]

No idea

[tidal kindle]

Wait which ring

[mossy fox]

ringworm i presume

[tidal kindle]

This one? @young swan

[young swan]

blow it off

[serene vessel]

Big sad because I was enjoying fire and refuse to play arcane

[slim grotto]

I just got bullied by FDK in group who's 10ilv below me and smashing me on meters

[feral ivy]

give me

[hardy cargo]

just play frost and spam the shit out of ice lance

[mossy fox]

our mage played fire on bloodbound today and did 1.5m

he said ignite spreads from boss to all adds xd

[serene vessel]

Yeah lmao

That's fires best fight

[oblique trail]

I did 1.53 mill as arms on bloodbound

[serene vessel]

The hit box of that boss is insane

[oblique trail]

But holy it sucks bälle to play

Can not recommend

[serene vessel]

You just tunnel boss

[mossy fox]

i only did 1.45m today L

[turbid bay]

Fire mage kinda slapping again?

[serene vessel]

No lol

[turbid bay]

Time to dust off my mage

[serene vessel]

Fire legit getting nerfed 7% on Tuesday

[mossy fox]

but i padded good on ovinax at 3.040m

[serene vessel]

Play arcane ig you want mage

[oblique trail]

Tbf I was auged a bit so final was 1.489 or something

[turbid bay]

Arcane bit snoozy tho

[oblique trail]

No shot this was natty 3 mill

[turbid bay]

Rip

[young glacier]

Is really balance class that hard?

[serene vessel]

They get buffed Tuesday so if you like it you'll firmly be #2

[young glacier]

or am i crazy?

[mossy fox]

ye no aug no external

[tidal kindle]

He is the only ovipadder

In raid

No fdks no 2nd fury

[mossy fox]

i mean i had aug but thats the wcl number

[oblique trail]

I got a 96 on broodtwister

[balmy shore]

LMAOOOO

[oblique trail]

It's impossible to get higher than that I think with my raid comp

[summer quail]

don't demon hunters pad as well there?

[oblique trail]

96 was a miracle

[mossy fox]

im surprised how much dh can blast those adds tho

if it wasnt for dh id do a lot more

[serene vessel]

God I can't wait to see Tuesday logs tbh

[forest owl]

Im the only fury and no fdk in guild on m brood...but everyone was told to go full aoe

[feral ivy]

is FDK hard to learn?

[tidal kindle]

Not even close to fdk/fury though

[queen linden]

Critcake is doing gods work now. Showcasing how broken FDK is. Surely they get nerfed soon.

[tidal kindle]

📈

[young glacier]

Gg critcake we love you

[serene vessel]

Come Tuesday people gonna see the worst balance they've ever had i think

[turbid bay]

Na buff coming to fdk

[feral ivy]

if they wanted to nerf FDK they would've already it wont get nerfed for awhile

[summer quail]

true, we have fdk and 2 dhs... my parse is gonna suck isn't it

[turbid bay]

Devs throwing numbers

[tidal kindle]

Yknow all the mass layoffs microsoft did

After acquiring blizzard

[mossy fox]

fdk doesnt do that great on raid statistics

[tidal kindle]

I think that's where our dev went

[mossy fox]

so it's prolly safe

[queen linden]

[serene vessel]

I think that was the whole balance team

They buff fdk enh and arcane. Those are like the top 3 specs

[turbid bay]

People chat fdk meanwhile assassination rogue quietly pumping in the background

[summer quail]

they're pretty high up there, but not top 3 so yeah probably safe

[serene vessel]

Also ya I think sin got buffed too

[feral ivy]

rogues are aloud to be broken.. they have broken fingers

[mossy fox]

dk is so absurdly tanky it's insane

i walk in poop all the time on dk and it doesnt matter

[serene vessel]

Yo i been saying this. Tankier than fury

[oak peak]

how annoying is BoS to play for frost? its the only thing keeping me away from trying frost

[mossy fox]

i like the breath minigame

[summer quail]

against magic damage yeah

[mossy fox]

but also it only lasts like 30-45s

[serene vessel]

I think against phys too?

[summer quail]

tbf most of the damage i feel like is magic

[serene vessel]

They have more hp

[feral ivy]

10 mist vs 11

[oak peak]

is it hard to keep breath up?

[mossy fox]

20% hp in a tier 1 class talent

[serene vessel]

Xdd

[balmy shore]

gg not in on kyveza

[summer quail]

ams cd is criminal for that much shield

[young swan]

[winter shoal]

gives you time to get the reroll going

[tidal kindle]

Yabai....

[mossy fox]

40s almost 4m shield okayge

[balmy shore]

despair

[mossy fox]

also death strike is crazy

[serene vessel]

Don't forget their passive shield too

[balmy shore]

i dunno why though

[mossy fox]

imagine having access to ER all the time

[oblique trail]

Go prep court

[tidal kindle]

Bro our FDK tanked the egg break absorb + spider for 10-12s ytd

[oblique trail]

It will be fun

[mossy fox]

thats how it feels to me

[oblique trail]

Trust

[tidal kindle]

Err 2 days ago

[serene vessel]

Also their cheat death

[sudden tusk]

a better IV whenever you want

lmao

[tidal kindle]

Like

WHAT

[forest owl]

So dk just isnt bad at anything right now is what im getting from this chat

[tidal kindle]

Dk mage aug

is

And sham

God classes

[ornate sable]

What's the strat for mythic ulgrax optimizing dmg? Wait for all poison spitters out before cds on the pile?

[feral ivy]

they cant SR?

[tidal kindle]

Any of Dk/mage/sham + aug

📈

Rogue ret 📈

Everything else

📉

[serene vessel]

Feels bad as a fire only Chad:(

[balmy shore]

@young swan ❤️

[tidal kindle]

Wow twins!

@young swan where yours?

[balmy shore]

[tidal kindle]

@mossy fox soon...

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-gun-suicide-gif-13872495

[mossy fox]

insane

aaaaa wheres my neck

[balmy shore]

loot one!!!!!!!!

[tidal kindle]

The real L is being last prio on rare neck/cape cuz warrior is L class

Fucking Nerf LMAO

[sudden tusk]

its 20k for me

bonkers

[tidal kindle]

"Who's class is getting worse next week"

"Except warrior, no one cares about warrior"

[balmy shore]

gotta be like enh shamans

[mossy fox]

we need to whine more

[tidal kindle]

Nah

Whining doesn't work

Just stop playing class

DF was all whine

[balmy shore]

not enough whine

[mossy fox]

whine then stop playing class and continue whining

[balmy shore]

gotta whine like the enh and spriests

[feral ivy]

where do people actually complain at that blizz actually look at?

[tidal kindle]

Forums

We just don't have

An ellesmere

[slim grotto]

Is everyone still playing slayer in 10-12 keys or strictly thane?

[oblique trail]

I was the first to get the neck

[tidal kindle]

Or a naowh

Or a firedup

[oblique trail]

They're prob regretting it now..

[ornate sable]

Is there somewhere I can see a timeline of all fights in the raid? I want to plan cd usage better

[oblique trail]

Gonna take it back..

[tidal kindle]

Yah before warrior got hit w/ 6 nerfs in a row

[young swan]

or a thd

[mossy fox]

im trying with my videos kinda

[young swan]

kalamazoo

[mossy fox]

but i didnt go too hard ig

[balmy shore]

i smash that like button

[tidal kindle]

Get some blizzard contacts in your pocket

[young swan]

list goes on

[tidal kindle]

Tweet @ blizzdevs

[balmy shore]

smash that like smash that subscribe to critcake

[winter shoal]

Noxiv plays slayer and he's r1 (or close to it) fury

[tidal kindle]

[hardy cargo]

yes continue to unleash your inner tettles

[young swan]

gonna smash my head into a wall

[balmy shore]

hey buddy u ok

[young swan]

no

[balmy shore]

u need a snack?

[mossy fox]

thinking i should make another video to talk about the upcoming changes/numbers/builds, and also fit in a bit of whining in there somewhere

[balmy shore]

maybe a capri sun

[slim grotto]

Can you link his profile? Not sure what server he's on

[young swan]

i need my class to not get shot 5 weeks in a row

[balmy shore]

YEAH!

[half cargo]

Need to stop giving Pilav PI

[balmy shore]

imagine playing fury and not being nerfed

[winter shoal]

https://raider.io/characters/us/zuljin/Noxiv

[balmy shore]

play fury and not get nerfed challenge (impossible)

[feral ivy]

who are these ppl

[slim grotto]

Awesome thank you

[tidal kindle]

Problem is we always say "xyz is bad, but abc is also good"
And then we get (sometimes) compensation (often still net nerf)

Everyone else just whines and dooms and they get straight buffs

"Guys the nerfs aren't bad, fury is still OP in raid"

[young swan]

yes we need to be more dishonest and manipulative

[tidal kindle]

3x nerfs later

"Fury is STILL GOOD guys"

3x nerfs later

"GUYS FURY IS STILL GOOD"

[sudden tusk]

So like, favorite, and subscribe, otherwise ill wish 5 yard range upon you for the rest of your life

[tidal kindle]

[balmy shore]

literally

too reasonable

[mossy fox]

raid fury is kinda fine though

more than fine even

[tidal kindle]

Yeah but it's crippled everywhere else

[coral salmon]

M+ fury aint fine 😂

[mossy fox]

yap

[half cargo]

[tidal kindle]

Like

[half cargo]

We're just talking about this!

[tidal kindle]

It's apparent whoever is doing warrior changes rn

[polar narwhal]

Raid has perfect timers for Fury Cds

[young swan]

i do think thane fury is VERY close to being very good in m+

[polar narwhal]

Or mostly

[tidal kindle]

Probably has close to no clue what they're doing or why

[arctic sinew]

On another note, has anyone else noticed how delayed nelf execute dmg text is? Same with obliterate

[tidal kindle]

So if we say fury is good (in raid)

They just see fury good ok nerf

[balmy shore]

yo i kinda like playing thane fury

[winter shoal]

It's chatgpt bud

[polar narwhal]

There hasnt been a blue warrior post in 6 months on forums

[forest owl]

Imagine how bad fury will be next raid all st bosses and some adds not on our cd timings

[mossy fox]

i can just point at wcl logs and not elaborate

[tidal kindle]

And I don't want to bm devs but like

How much more

[balmy shore]

check rashanan?? we are bad??

[bleak bluff]

Hey guys jsut a quick question

according to the 20th anniversary patch for warriors, some nerfs to reckless abandon is expected.
As such will it be better to go for Anger management instead?
If anger management is indeed the go to spec, will Slayer be better in keys than mountain thane as the cooldown of bladestorm will improve Slayers consistant AOE?!

[polar narwhal]

A tier set forcing spear

[brittle crow]

how do i use cds going into ansurek phase 2

do i use em on the first pack of skitterlings

[hardy cargo]

I wait to get on top of shield guy

[summer quail]

like the culling cyclone nerf

[polar narwhal]

Read #updates-midnight

[mossy fox]

idk ive been doing that but now that phase ends so fast i dont get cds back for 1st p3 adds

[brittle crow]

cuz my reck/ava/roar are up when we have to kill the knock up add at the start

and i dont wanna hold em for so long

else ill waste for p3 adds