#fury

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coarse moon
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I see I see.. debating rerolling then.. I have an enhance alt but man.. kinda too much work for less dps

mellow bloom
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endboss secret very giga rare ring any good as thaner

winter shoal
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I'm trying to convince my guild to 3 tank first boss so I can piss on the adds without ripping aggro and dying

hard widget
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Wiping, key level, route, classes

fallen sedge
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route is pug route, so you can bet its gonna be special lmao

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idk how but the one class I see consistently knowing routes in BDKs, if its a prot warrior pug I flee for me life, if it's a monk I start drinking /lh

eager thorn
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getting good kills naturally so idm not tryharding for a bit

winter shoal
eager thorn
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I got rank 8 last week cos i held cds and he lived on like 30m hp going into intermission

snow edge
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I don’t think I’ve ever ripped threat on those adds; and they do not live long

fallen sedge
# verbal rivet Define knowing routes.

goes on the correct side for machine speaker boss for SV is one example I'd say, not pulling completely random packs during the town portion of dawnbreaker etc

eager thorn
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So i got another set of adds to totally ethically pad

snow edge
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Are you just dropping on them before they’ve all moved in / grouped up?

weary sail
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Are we still dooming about Fury warriors nerf?

verbal rivet
fallen sedge
night relic
weary sail
frozen tartan
verbal rivet
unreal onyx
snow edge
weary sail
bleak gale
winter shoal
fading bane
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gotta do percentiles, this puts fury down 1 spot

winter shoal
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I would've gotten more dam waiting a couple seconds though (in addition to not dying)

weary sail
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wow, enhance, ret, frost DK, rogues are all higher

fallen sedge
next ruin
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every touched class is getting 15 lines of changes, we're getting mostly nerfs and their buffs are mathematically incorrect. crazy

verbal rivet
fallen sedge
feral ivy
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whats j

heavy dock
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joke

winter shoal
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joever

fallen sedge
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./joke or /joking

feral ivy
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ah

winter shoal
verbal rivet
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The ret buff was wild tho

weary sail
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arms catching stray nerfs cuz of Fury keks

smoky vale
next ruin
winter shoal
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I think there's no greater confirmation that the "warrior dev" is just chatgpt than that

wheat estuary
nimble ermine
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oh no ret got a 3% nerf

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it's over for them

verbal rivet
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Right, fury got a 3% nerf

sudden tusk
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whenever i read the patch notes

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ANOTHER REWORK TO PALADIN

gaunt moat
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wtf is that

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what is the spell that deals 180 MILLIONS dmg

verbal rivet
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Is Warrior now a pity raid buff class?

winter shoal
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Always was

verbal rivet
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Like

verbal rivet
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Being edgy is better then this

weary sail
verbal rivet
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Fair

weary sail
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we will be stronger next tier copium

next ruin
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it's crazy we're out here trying to find builds that sim 2% more while some classes find way to do 15M overalls

feral ivy
normal bane
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do ppl unironically think fury is one of the worst specs

weary sail
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do ppl unironically think fury is one of the best specs

storm rune
normal bane
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fury is the literal best at what you take it to some fights like QA for

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and it's not close

night relic
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more dmg = more points

fading bane
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it goes of the top 95% of parses

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so it compares the specs between ppl with hands

forest owl
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mythic rash critcake

normal bane
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they removed rashananan aoe from logs and ppl have a meltdown over fury sucking when its nearly the exact same it was before

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not exact

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but close

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spoiler, killing rashanan adds still matters even if it doesn't show in your parse

hard widget
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Bro joining the Rashanan convo about 2 weeks too late

gaunt moat
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xdd

eternal sundial
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1 week before itll be fixed

burnt kelp
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yes its the adds on rashanan that make fury look bad

eternal sundial
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btw

burnt kelp
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xdddddd

normal bane
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ppl literally linking rash logs

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so no

gaunt moat
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Bro is using interner explorer

normal bane
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not really!

burnt kelp
forest owl
normal bane
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if you put the fury warrior in a st role

inner shadow
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how can u use mark of khardros and treacherous together??

normal bane
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then you're raid lead is stupid

burnt kelp
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what's the role of aug evoker

gaunt moat
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Bro that's not why ppl are having a meltdown

smoky vale
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to pad

brittle crow
hard widget
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FUry op!

storm rune
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Well like I'm inferring that score of an average across all players in the selected range, with outliers surpassing 100 points. Score is some measure of damage, but if it's not on some sort of 1-100 scale, I don't really understand the point system

normal bane
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when you link overall logs and say fury sucks, thats definitely what they're talking about lmao

random raptor
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Why? is fury ST not good? Great MT burst but overrall not as good as top specs also? are you implying fury is bad while saying its good? wtf!

normal bane
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yes it's boss damage especially when in aoe specs sucks

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thats not what you take it for

gaunt moat
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It's the fact that the only thing we're good at is getting nerfed and classes who does the same but better aren't getting much nerfs

brittle crow
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by a notable margin

burnt kelp
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why must the boss damage suck to be allowed to aoe

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I didn't know that was a rule

brittle crow
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it isnt

hard widget
burnt kelp
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can someone tell blizzard dk shaman mages and ret are breaking the rule

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and many other

normal bane
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thats how you get frost dk, which people unanimously agree is outright broken

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but even fury and and frost aoe are not the same thing

gaunt moat
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Yh fdk is better in both

normal bane
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lmao

gaunt moat
burnt kelp
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fdk isn't the only one

random raptor
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The issue is, we got nerfed back to back to back without any proper compensation

vapid tiger
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Enh too

hard widget
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Fdk does everything a warrior does, but better tbh

brittle crow
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fdk isnt broken cuz it can do aoe and st

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its broken cuz it does a lot

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xd

normal bane
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nothing in the game is fury warriors burst aoe, cope all you want

random raptor
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Thane/Slayer aren't even that different lol

normal bane
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and yes, fdk is op

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two things can be true

brittle crow
brittle crow
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except they do actual dmg outside their burst too

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xd

hard widget
normal bane
hard widget
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In mythic they take ur for battle shout xd

normal bane
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didn't know fdks get a full 40 second breath on QA spiders/adds

night relic
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mythic u aint nothing special

gaunt moat
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Bro i dunno why you're fishing for a debate we're already down in the gutter we don't care anymore

hard widget
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We're just a battle shout and rally in mythic

normal bane
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because you actually thinking fury sucks, is so dumb

median kestrel
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guys the worm won, the morale is on the floor, my guild is over, what is my fate now

kind hill
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Bro it sucks

rare fjord
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what exactly are we reflecting at kyveza when she starts droping the portals?

random raptor
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Compared to other specs? yes it sucks lol

hard widget
normal bane
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does getting nerfed while fdk and everything isn't suck? yes

feral ivy
young swan
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it does exactly what its supposed to do

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very badly

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and other classes are def better

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stop the cope

weary sail
kind hill
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On m+ if there is a fdk and a fury its a easy choice

hard widget
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Dont be inflating stuff now Xan

brittle crow
feral ivy
hard widget
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U know JUST AS WELl

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What ur doing

brittle crow
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i cant even begin to pad like that on heroic

raven oxide
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we will get weaker on next tuesday or? with AM build

brittle crow
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unless im padding wrong

young swan
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the nerf doesnt effect the dot

gaunt moat
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The nerf is mainly on OF

normal bane
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i can't tell if people are genuinely this stupid and look at the wcl overall and thing it's law, or are trolling

hard widget
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Xan, just because there are webs to pad on doesnt make us great by any means

young swan
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also those are the spiders in p3

weary sail
young swan
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the things that need to die or the raid wipes

weary sail
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literally other pulls where other classes way ahead of fury

young swan
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the things you bring warrior to deal with

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and nothing else

normal bane
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fury is the absolute best class for burst aoe and it is not close, and you need burst aoe

brittle crow
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how do i get my coolies to line up for first adds in p3, am i supposed to just hard hold cds throughout intermission

young swan
burnt kelp
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fury should be balanced around that 1 boss that 0.001% of the population will get to see, because its good at that one thing it should be mediocre at everything else

hard widget
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The only reason we're somewhat good in raid is because they lined everything up for us. Outside of raid have fun

night relic
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cds on 2nd platform should line up pretty good depending on kill timings

normal bane
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these ppl have to be trolling right?

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no way they are this stupid

hard widget
young swan
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people can argue warrior sucks outside of raid (it doesnt but u can argue it) but IN RAID????

young swan
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2 out of the last 4

normal bane
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mostly important fights

summer quail
normal bane
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but fdk is better on brood! warrior sucks!!!!!!

young swan
hard widget
young swan
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because the 5 target cap is only effecting the initial hit and not the dot

brittle crow
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it effects odyn's dot tho

iron portal
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Buff War Nerf Rogue MDI team memories

normal bane
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no i just think you're stupid for actually thinking warrior is bad and burst aoe doesn't matter/or other people are better at it

young swan
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OF dot does no fucking damage so who cares

brittle crow
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tru...

young swan
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doesnt effect BS

hard widget
young swan
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ur still gonna be the best "pad" spec in the game

summer quail
normal bane
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which part....

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because pretty muc all of it was claimed

nimble ermine
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i mean idk why you guys want buffs, id rather take a rework of our tree

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i swear its fucking cooked

molten spire
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Whats best for farming runed crests?

mossy nimbus
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Do u change the way you move (e.g. stand more time still or move more) when u use the ovinax egg trinket, or does it not matter which of the two buffs you get?

brittle crow
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tree is fine we dont have utility to take anyways

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xd

night relic
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🍿

molten spire
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+8 delves or +7 M+?

sullen dove
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what

gaunt moat
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Or wait you don't have enough points!

brittle crow
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theres a fear in tirna scithe .. ??

hard widget
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I cant wait for next tier to drop with shit in raid that doesnt align with all our cd's with shitty smallies nobody cares about

normal bane
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ok great

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when that happens fury will suck

hard widget
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So we can actually play the game somewhat normally

normal bane
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but thats not the case now lmao

sullen dove
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then surely that means we get buffed by 20%

hard widget
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Ofc not

brittle crow
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do we still take culling cyclone in raid even after the nerf btw

weary sail
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cant wait for fury to get 15% aura buff next patch copium

next ruin
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can't wait for quick hotfix with Troar dot target cap. They can't let this slide

young swan
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no ones arguing about next tier, people who wanna say fury is bad in raid right now need an icepick lobotomy

gaunt moat
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Just like warbingo

hard widget
gaunt moat
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Warbonger

hard widget
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And if you think it is. I disagree with you

next ruin
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fury is the worst melee in m+ it is what it is

young swan
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it is very fucking good by virtue of the fact that it hard carries p3 of ansurek

next ruin
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maybe the only worse one is arms

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great

young swan
winter shoal
young swan
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friends guild, not mine

summer quail
hard widget
young swan
eager thorn
brittle crow
eager thorn
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Repulsive scream or smth

weary sail
young swan
winter shoal
feral ivy
hard widget
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If we didnt, others can do it

young swan
hard widget
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Like its not as if we're the only ones that can

winter shoal
young swan
fading sky
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Tbh cant remember it being this bad in df

feral ivy
hard widget
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People make it out as if Fury Warrior is the only class that can do shit on Queen, or Broodtwister or w.e but thats just cope

weary sail
young swan
hard widget
young swan
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he doesnt have experience

hard widget
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Its just inflated overall dmg

gaunt moat
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I think the issue here Xan is the feeling that we're giving up everything else juste for the fact that we deal our burst faster than others

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It works well in this specific raid

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But that's all

young swan
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holy fuck ICANT

fading sky
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But no compentation outside burst

young swan
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WE ARE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT FURYS PERFORMANCE IN THIS RAID BROTHER

eager thorn
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Dont shout please

graceful drift
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Anyone else experiencing problems withh Bladestorm and Mountain Thane?

hard widget
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Yeah and the only reason we're doing "good" is because others just dont do it

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They can

winter shoal
sudden tusk
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noone can compete with fury burst. after like 6 seconds sure

young swan
hard widget
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And it would be just as good if not better

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Nah

winter shoal
hard widget
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We just do it faster

sudden tusk
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but the adds have to die in 6 seconds

young swan
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you would have to commit both dks breath

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to deal with the adds

weary sail
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man you are crazy coping right now about fury

clever belfry
young swan
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that is SHIT

modest condor
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im glad that we're great in p3 ansurek, unfortunately in m+ im now gonna be 15% behind the ret paladin and 25% behind the fdk

next ruin
midnight jackal
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nerf the burst but improve the ST + constant aoe via a buffed WW damage spread. That should make us easier to balance

eager thorn
graceful drift
hard widget
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Just because we do it faster doesnt make us better

fading sky
young swan
hard widget
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Thats heroic bs all over again

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Look at heroic logs we're amazing!

graceful drift
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[known: Bladestorm] seems to be not working with MT

clever belfry
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how much do people say slayer >> thane on ovinax cause more frontload?

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xd

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?

normal bane
grim star
next ruin
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it was, you can"t just kill a class to make it "good" in 1% of the content, if it's trash 90% of the time it's trash

weary sail
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lets see what happen after the patch 🙂

clever belfry
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burst always better than sustain 🤷‍♂️

fading sky
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Are we truly more front loaded than ret?

brittle crow
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by a lot

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just not for long

gaunt moat
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Yes we're

young swan
cloud ether
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id be tilted about class balance if i could read

normal bane
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If queen had logs and rashanan wasn't changed ppl would be saying the specs op

brittle crow
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ok but what about on kyveza

cloud ether
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luckily i am a warrior gamer

hard widget
feral ivy
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i feel like we suck in m+ tbh thats the only thing i do more than 1 a day

tiny seal
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Why tf is everyone malding so hard in dc shit wont change a single bit by people typing here

brittle crow
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we dont even suck in m+

next ruin
gaunt moat
fading sky
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We suck in m+!

feral ivy
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i wouldnt say suck i say we arent the best

boreal vigil
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Hey boyyyys did anyone notice % change on Grim batol ?

young swan
fading sky
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Compared to competition

brittle crow
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everybody saying fury sucks in m+ isnt doing keys higher than a 10 anyways where it actually matters

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so xd

hard widget
young swan
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loot vault bucket game mode!

weary sail
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Anyway 95% of people here wont ever touch mythic ansurek anyway okayge

cloud ether
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there has been a fury warrior in every m+ ive been in

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idk why anyone would say they suck

fading sky
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Spots taken by enc, dks rets rogues

static loom
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Who needs to touch mythic ansurek, when she's already dead. :)

night relic
arctic sinew
dire badge
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guy literally has the class worse than fury in his name

next ruin
brittle crow
# fading sky Cant get into keys

if ur not being invited to a key because ur fury, then that key would be bricked if u were a ret instead because the group lead is sniffing febreeze mid-gameplay

young swan
native wadi
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ovi nax rip yeah

young swan
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fuck outta here

native wadi
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finally

cloud ether
native wadi
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does anyway have the spell reflect aura for kyveza?

feral ivy
weary sail
next ruin
barren coral
heavy folio
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5800x3d but fps drop on ovinax is massive, any tips? disabling plater for adds would help?

brittle crow
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why u worried abt fury being good if u dont even have consistent guildies to key with

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fuck pugs

young swan
fading sky
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I do way more m+ than raid

arctic sinew
oblique trail
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worse, Xan is french

warm crag
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xantaga is winning the culture war

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gg

normal bane
winter shoal
fading sky
lost saffron
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Fury is

fading sky
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I think my anger isnt our nerfs

young swan
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not french either

lost saffron
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One of the specs of all time

young swan
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shut up toph

fading sky
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Its when other specs gets an aoe nerf they got more st

warm crag
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toph top 10 nsky warriors

lost saffron
young swan
hard widget
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Ngl, i rather be shit in raid and good im M+ than the other way around 🙂

lost saffron
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I am top two warrior in my guild

warm crag
winter shoal
lost saffron
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Yes

cloud ether
fading sky
gaunt moat
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I'll translate because i'm french and i love saying that i am he said "ah i understand better now!"

fading sky
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Free raid spot

hard widget
young swan
gaunt moat
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You're welcome (i'm french btw)

weary sail
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I am betting there are like 4 people in this discord who is actually on Mythic Queen Ansurek anyway

fading sky
hard widget
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Its just how it is

feral ivy
young swan
gaunt moat
fading sky
hard widget
young swan
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dont care arms that spec needs god and should stay in the grave until it finds it

barren coral
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fuck arms

pale sable
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new to fury, love the class although few utilities, just want more ST dmg 🥰

lost saffron
lost saffron
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Have you seen enhancer?

hardy cargo
cloud ether
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Warrior balance is based purely on stock value - if it has been a profitable quarter, nerfs are launched. If the investors are struggling, then user engagement needs to be inflated, in which case, warriors are naturally nerfed.

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Raid balance has nothing to do with it.

lost saffron
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If enhancer stays the way it is right now

barren coral
hard widget
lost saffron
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You will literally see

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100m EB crits

fading sky
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Arms had a chance was collosus, then they super nerfed.ms

young swan
gaunt moat
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He's trolling guys he's not new

inner shadow
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2 boes drop one plate withj socket (1,2mil in AH)
i buy it from him on 735k

lost saffron
gaunt moat
next ruin
inner shadow
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lmfao

inner shadow
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boe farms are huge

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ngl

feral ivy
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i hate u rich fucks with millions of gold

normal bane
young swan
night relic
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decent price

mossy fox
young swan
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not because of performance

lost saffron
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You cannot tell me anyone sees fury warrior being mid tier in singletarget and then decide, hey 3% aura nerf is a good idea @hard widget

inner shadow
lost saffron
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How is that based on raid

barren coral
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today i weep, tomorrow i level a DK

next ruin
barren coral
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life is good

lost saffron
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Read what I say

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Before saying smth stupid

fading sky
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Low mid

gaunt moat
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Come on Monmonk and Xan make peace now

barren coral
heavy flax
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just turn off details for sikran and kyveza, problem solved FingerGuns

gaunt moat
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Let's insult mages

lost saffron
gaunt moat
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Fuck mages

restive granite
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im dropping this shit game as soon as poe2 comes out

trail bane
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Ret paladins getting 6% aura buff, im so happy for them

barren coral
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are you?

humble plover
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Fuck wizards

next ruin
young swan
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?

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if i watned to be edgy cause discord mod i would just shoot u

fickle bluff
nimble ermine
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how is xan edgy

young swan
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no need to insult

barren coral
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mid tier ST btw

feral ivy
warm crag
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sepulcher RA went hard

inner shadow
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now

young swan
chilly fractal
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BoEs?

inner shadow
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700k boots 300k treacherous 735k helmet

humble plover
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I miss roid

young swan
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oh

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lol

feral ivy
humble plover
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He'd have some good takes rn

fickle bluff
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:aintnoway:

brittle crow
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700k boots..........

next ruin
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edgy or discord mod aren't insults, but going against what every top warrior here says is indeed edgy, but it is what it is ill stop feeding

hardy cargo
# lost saffron It was mid before the nerfs

but the tuning wasnt to combat our st, it was to combat how insane our aoe burst was. not to say that 3% aura nerf was the correct change, so not sure why st is the consideration here

nimble ermine
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but xan is right tho

warm crag
gaunt moat
nimble ermine
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war is really good in raid

young swan
nimble ermine
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and convo was about raid

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?!?!?!?!?

young swan
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i see none of them

brittle crow
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me

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im a top warrior

next ruin
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not rn but go in critcake stream and ask for warrior state idk

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jeventes

eager thorn
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I have 2731 io am i a top warrior

inner shadow
next ruin
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noxxiv

young swan
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no offense to either of them cause im friends with both

modest condor
warm crag
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Ok so you’re talking to a 2731 io fury warrior and I’m telling you, you don’t really see the community problem til you’re up here king

young swan
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but they are m+ers

next ruin
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yes like most people

young swan
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nobodu

arctic sinew
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Ok so you’re talking to a 2731 io fury warrior and I’m telling you, you don’t really see the community problem til you’re up here king

young swan
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is talking

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about m+_

humble plover
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Xan 1v1 me behind the Wendy's. I'll have you know I've timed a 16 nelths

eager thorn
young swan
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nobody is justifying the nerfs

eager thorn
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Ok so you’re talking to a 2731 io fury warrior and I’m telling you, you don’t really see the community problem til you’re up here king

brittle crow
inner shadow
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but lastt time i looked online

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allegedly

chilly fractal
warm crag
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spongiewarrior just tanked their first +8 actually

inner shadow
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2 mil is 65 euro

winter shoal
warm crag
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none

winter shoal
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HOLY

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HES COOKING

brittle crow
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!

hardy cargo
warm crag
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but i caused mass casualties on 2nd boss dawnbreaker

young swan
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wow spongie warr is goated

heavy flax
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they need to nerf our single target on god

winter shoal
nimble ermine
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how did you cause a genocide

fading sky
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Prot collosus?

nimble ermine
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teach me so i can do the same

warm crag
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titanforged the pull and didnt grab aggro on the tiny men

chilly fractal
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balls to the wall?

hybrid dawn
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is Befoulers syringe actually good, or is its unusual-ness throwing off simming?

brittle crow
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...

gaunt moat
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Found it

modest condor
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damn look at that 16 nelth

hybrid dawn
fickle bluff
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chatting as a "pro" warrior whatever xan said was probably right stay mad random skyhold user

hybrid dawn
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its simming higher then a 606 axe

oblique trail
chilly fractal
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Mole Arm

inner shadow
oblique trail
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And also beaten in ST by higher ilvl weapons

feral ivy
inner shadow
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nope

hybrid dawn
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weird, i guess its throwing simc off

oblique trail
#

how so

feral ivy
#

ur tokens are what fucken 1mil each?

winter shoal
dapper goblet
#

warrior op in raid

oblique trail
#

For ST it does as well as it sims

fading sky
#

340k token?

warm crag
night relic
#

clueless tokens?

warm crag
#

the problem si that you cant get it higher than hc track

sudden tusk
gaunt moat
#

Xeos the traitor is here hide yo wives

sullen dove
inner shadow
#

are people

#

clueless

#

or what?

chilly fractal
#

NA tokens almost 200k again... 199,466

feral ivy
gaunt moat
#

Go back to enhancement shaman discord!

inner shadow
#

350k eu

hardy cargo
inner shadow
hybrid dawn
#

lol getting mixed messages

indigo arch
#

Go to ret disc instead, ret somehow getting aura buffed

humble plover
oblique trail
#

how are oyu getting mixed messages?

indigo arch
#

L m a o

oblique trail
#

we literally just told you the conditions for the Syringe

hardy cargo
snow edge
indigo arch
#

Oh shit, guess I better eye it

hybrid dawn
oblique trail
#

who said it's best

hybrid dawn
indigo arch
#

About time, they have all the utilities in the world

oblique trail
#

??

warm crag
#

where is the word "best"

oblique trail
#

Sorry my friend your reading comprehension is not great

#

We never said it was best

fickle bluff
#

they both said the same thing

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"good in st"

hybrid dawn
#

it is admittedly laye

#

late*

gaunt moat
#

Calm calm he may be new don't forget we all began somewhere

indigo arch
#

Would be sick to get no aoe cap nerfs as an anniversary present

hybrid dawn
#

just surprising to see it sim much higher then a much higher ilvl weap

#

so i was just checking

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thank you

modern flint
#

hey guys, curious question, for both M+ and raid content, what would be effective stack amount of slaughtering strikes to finally use rampage?

next ruin
warm crag
#

its just not really relevant cause most people craft weapon and then nab a hc or even mythic wep

oblique trail
#

It's irrelevant to think about

indigo arch
winter shoal
next ruin
#

new designs from scratch, designs that are easier to balance i guess, i agree with xan on this point 👍

modern flint
#

isn't slaughtering strikes and bloodcraze the reason why we delay rampage though?

oblique trail
#

nothing against Fishy but there's a bit too much overcooking going on sometimes

winter shoal
fickle bluff
winter shoal
fickle bluff
#

current apl never mentions slaughtering

oblique trail
signal gyro
#

how do you guys sim like an aoe fight for raid

rotund ginkgo
#

am i tripping or is endurance training better than wild strikes for m+

fickle bluff
#

simply dont die noober

rotund ginkgo
#

its almost 700k hp lmao

sudden tusk
#

we no die but them mobs also no die

#

: )

young swan
fickle bluff
#

chatting 2% haste and the aa damage and rage gen that comes with it

rotund ginkgo
#

aa damage?

#

we playign the same expac?

young swan
#

the only thing that matters is trinkets and you can check logs for those

rotund ginkgo
#

melees did 2.2%

fickle bluff
#

0

gilded pawn
#

its attack speed also right

#

rage gen

signal gyro
# young swan i usually just dont

yeah im simming trinkets, its saying my madness of the betrayer is best with transmitter for fury on patchwerk 5, but i'm not sure if patch 5 targets (1min 30) is the right way to sim

young swan
#

what are you simming for

signal gyro
#

raid fights with burst aoe basically, like mythic ulgrax adds etc;

young swan
#

theres different applications of just "aoe"

signal gyro
#

rashanan, brood etc;

young swan
fickle bluff
#

any time youre bursting aoe, youre using CDs, which aligns with transmitter

hardy cargo
hardy cargo
# young swan yeah

on pull with cds did u send khardos or xmitter first? (then the other with first set of adds alternating)

signal gyro
#

I'm just curious is all because yeah simming the way I did, madness of the betrayer is coming ahead which... seems odd

hardy cargo
#

id assume u want xmitter on pull then with avatars right

humble plover
#

Could someone teach me how to loot a transmitter? Is there some sort of dance or something you gotta do for it to drop?

young swan
#

i used khardros on pull then transmitter for 1st set adds

hardy cargo
#

rgr I copy

#

ty

gaunt moat
#

we're on critcake stream act normal guys!!

modest condor
#

hi mom!

inner shadow
#

what more do u get from delve 10-11 vs delve 8?

humble plover
#

Ewww fdk crit

young swan
#

basicallt just transmitter for big cd sets, khardros for smaller sets (no avatar)

stoic echo
#

so with the new patch RA will be picked over anger management but

#

what % increase does the buff push out overall?

snow edge
#

There's a detailed post in Updates

#

With % figures

stoic echo
#

That doesn't answer my question cause it states how much better RA is over AM

#

but not how much better it is compared to the live version

hardy cargo
#

its neutral iirc, due to the overwhelmed nerf

signal gyro
#

Even dungeon slice is putting betrayer ahead

gilded pawn
#

"fury slayer loses 0.2%"

signal gyro
gaunt moat
#

betrayer

young swan
#

u should prob just link the sim

hard widget
#

Im your brother my friend

young swan
#

dude

#

oh

hard widget
#

U were about to pop off

#

😂

#

But Xan is right

#

Our "objective" views are slightly scewered because we're m+ gamers

kindred swallow
#

warriors are too op pls nerf

hard widget
#

We're not bad in raid, I dont think we're GOOD in raid either. We're pretty solid

#

But imo we're pretty dog right now in higher m+

young swan
#

I think we're really good in raid

hard widget
#

Not DOG DOG, but we're not that great

hardy cargo
#

we are good in raid bc of fight design

young swan
#

3/4 of the last bosses we're really solid on

normal bane
#

Wrong image

hard widget
normal bane
#

But you get the point

barren coral
young swan
#

court is sleeper cause people dont know the thane technology

signal gyro
young swan
#

basically

next ruin
#

thing is no melee is dog dog so that puts us in the very end, were not MILES away but who's further outside of arms...

restive granite
#

just give heroic leap to rets so i can reroll in peace

signal gyro
kindred swallow
young swan
#

oh so it isnt

hard widget
#

Funny thing is, next week all broodtwister will be A LOT higher

young swan
#

ur other on uses do suck tho

hard widget
#

Due to AM becoming stronger

signal gyro
#

oh 100% @young swan

gentle jolt
#

Devs need to quit nerfing fury. It’s getting annoying.

young swan
#

yeah just play betrayer

#

didnt realize its just a proc

#

assumed it was the on use from ulduar or whatever

fickle bluff
signal gyro
#

yeah nah just the bt one got lucky

restive granite
#

i have no idea why they havent buffed execute

young swan
#

its actually sick

restive granite
#

execute should be one of those buttons that if you can press it you send it asap

young swan
#

need to fiddle with timings a bit more

fickle bluff
#

when adds are alive and the boss gets stunned into a big seismic thunder blast

young swan
#

cause im gonna kill the boss eventually

night relic
#

thane fucks on court

restive granite
#

instead its shit

fickle bluff
flat ocean
#

I am right that you only press rampage to get enrage and then you just click bloodthirst and raging blow?

next ruin
#

crit did well on prog as thane today

lavish mauve
#

THE FEELING WHEN YOU KILL A BOSS ON THE 1 PULL YOU DIEcritcake

summer quail
young swan
south kayak
#

Wouldn’t AM be worse in m+ since it desyncs cds

gaunt moat
signal gyro
modest condor
#

talenting into thane

young swan
lavish mauve
#

Slayer is fun too tbf, i would love a slayer AM build that slaps

gaunt moat
#

oh nice tech

next ruin
humble plover
#

Instructions unclear, sword stuck in slayer

young swan
#

prob requires some reoptimization

south kayak
#

As per the updates, AM would be worse than RA in m+ because of desync sadge

young swan
#

for heroic it doesnt matter

#

just send shit on CD

signal gyro
#

yeah im only looking at mythic here as we just started 😛

south kayak
#

Thunder blast should deal more damage to primary target

#

Deal

gaunt moat
#

it's getting late i can tell secrets

#

i like onslaught

humble plover
#

Ew

#

Boo this man

south kayak
#

If TB dealt more damage to primary target and Lightning Strike got buffed, thane would be close if not better than slayer on st

#

Please blizzard

#

Make it happen

next ruin
#

AM slayer behind 2-3% behind on aoe is criminal

young swan
south kayak
#

Is it 2x VC

young swan
#

its something

signal gyro
gaunt moat
#

thane am + double ravager

south kayak
#

Well

#

I’m waiting

gaunt moat
#

send 3 per packs

#

🙏

young swan
summer quail
#

I could feel the doi

young swan
#

thanks @frigid zealot

summer quail
#

when you said "it's something"

young swan
#

for court

#

specifically

#

no other boss

signal gyro
#

spear better on 2t?

frigid zealot
nimble ermine
#

that's a build

young swan
frigid zealot
#

We love clappa

young swan
#

bigger badder hits as thane

#

more value from the crit damage

south kayak
#

How much more damage on 2 targets is thane compared to slayer

warm crag
signal gyro
#

You reckon this could slap a lil on ulgrax prog today? i'd just be running troar but I do love me a spear

next ruin
#

has anyone tried the ovinax build but in m+ ?

young swan
#

uh

#

doubtful

young swan
young swan
#

might be player diff

young swan
#

but everything desysncs and is shit

frigid zealot
#

Tbf I played it on ulgrax and it wasn't even bad

#

If your guild doesn't melt the adds you can do some pretty alright damage

#

Just st feels sus

south kayak
#

Buff thane st

signal gyro
#

there's someone in the top 40 on wclogs with thane on ulgrax so that gives me the ability to do it (Pure Copium)

next ruin
verbal rivet
young swan
#

you just waste too much cdr

next ruin
#

and just sending everything on cd, unsynched did poor damage overall ?

verbal rivet
#

We are only good bc our CDs are perfectly synced

young swan
#

synching things as much as possible, while sending when it made sense, produced very poor results

frigid zealot
#

Bs has like 30 seconds cd with am

verbal rivet
#

Adds on 1 minute spawn, FDK is the only option in raid

frigid zealot
#

Pretty fast cd

signal gyro
south kayak
#

What about thane am next week

olive wraith
#

I forgot ret is also getting buffs next week

verbal rivet
gaunt moat
verbal rivet
#

Being called stupid by top 30 ranked fury wars is actually wild to me.

next ruin
#

and powerful enrage feels bad still

gaunt moat
#

powerful enrage feeling like i become old ingame

young swan
#

i will never stop defending powerful enrage

summer quail
young swan
#

give me back legion fury

frigid zealot
#

powerful enrage helps us boomer fingers getting less RSI

verbal rivet
frigid zealot
#

i miss when rampage lit up, and all you thought was

serene vessel
#

Powerful enrage is cringe

frigid zealot
#

im fuckin sending it

next ruin
serene vessel
#

Give me faster gameplay

verbal rivet
#

I only hit rampage for CB now ngl

#

Could not care that I hit

next ruin
#

at least MT rampage kinda slaps

summer quail
#

s2 df when rampage was like 35% of my damage, that's how rampage is supposed to be in my eyes. should be THE ability for fury imo

frigid zealot
#

throw back to legion when 40% your damage was a trinket

gilded pawn
nimble ermine
#

draught my beloved

gilded pawn
#

rampage being too high means what you press in between rampages dont matter

forest owl
#

i miss globaling people in pvp with Draught of Fel sadge

gilded pawn
#

rampage being too low means your spenders are doing too much damage

modest condor
south kayak
#

Thane rampage is perfect, maybe 10% more damage

gaunt moat
#

tell them silm

#

make rampage and execute great again!!

frigid zealot
#

at least thane am sends it the moment its available 🐐

#

real AM gaming

next ruin
#

how do things synch as am thane tho

olive wraith
gaunt moat
#

depending on the timing between the pulls in m+

#

in between avatars

verbal rivet
#

I’d rather have the fattest rampages and the ramp abilities be like 10-15% damage

gaunt moat
#

Allez one more time then i go to sleep

verbal rivet
#

Like ret

frigid zealot
#

when execute really was execute

#

good days when jugg stacked to 99

serene vessel
#

when you lived or died by ashen juggernaut and your game was over if u lost stacks

next ruin
#

sooo maybe as am thane youd go no OF and double VC ?? ok that might be fun

frigid zealot
serene vessel
#

awful fucking design\

serene vessel
#

its a psy op

frigid zealot
#

it was fun

#

but it was stupid

#

you died that was it

lost saffron
frigid zealot
#

0 dps until execute

gaunt moat
frigid zealot
#

suddenly first

south kayak
#

Is am playing of

frigid zealot
#

slayer will for aoe thane is optional

rigid minnow
#

Back when 895 trinket from 2 raids ago was bis

verbal rivet
south kayak
frigid zealot
#

Burst somewhat, sustain no

inner shadow
#

anyone got a fuckin mists working wekauara?

#

im losing my mind

south kayak
#

Go find it

young swan
south kayak
#

No

#

Disagree

verbal rivet
#

I literally heard “Rez the Bladestorm Bot” in raid last night.

frigid zealot
#

getting the wrong legendary first

summer quail
#

i want the legendary power from legion back where rampage critical hits against main target gets you rage. don't remember what the name is, it could replace doi

frigid zealot
#

getting the wrong legendary second

livid marsh
#

juggernaut was dope

young swan
#

i mean yeah there are some small issues that dont exist anymore

#

like being enraged makes u take more damage

frigid zealot
#

fucking legendaries ruined the start of legion

#

but was fun at end

nimble ermine
young swan
#

yeah

south kayak
#

The cleave

frigid zealot
#

the other warrior in my guild got the refund gloves

summer quail
frigid zealot
#

or what ever they was in arms and i was just sad with my prydaz

nimble ermine
#

yee

#

and the helm

#

i forogt what it did

young swan
summer quail
#

helm gave you rage when you enraged

south kayak
#

8

nimble ermine
#

oh yea

#

idk legion was a blast

serene vessel
#

I remember never getting anger of the half giants on my DH and doing 10% less dps and getting sat on progression because of it. Legion had great systems

verbal rivet
#

Fury leggos were overall not bad

inner shadow
frigid zealot
#

i just remember you had a fat ww hit

young swan
#

wrecking ball

frigid zealot
#

with belt and some talent

young swan
#

my beloved

livid marsh
sudden tusk
#

bring back ahnni

willow hazel
rigid minnow
#

the old warmachine on Varimathras was peak gaming

south kayak
young swan
#

yeah and thane is sick

frigid zealot
#

all your damage was just ww

mellow bloom
#

clapping cheeks all day

young swan
nimble ermine
#

if they ever do legion classic and somehow add the legendary vendor for launch

#

it will be peak

young swan
#

vari was the one that was basically pure ST but you had perma lust

frigid zealot
young swan
#

because there was adds that spawned with 0 hp

next ruin
#

Xantaga do you think 45s roar could fit am thane? Or am I really asking for too much

frigid zealot
#

my memory of legion is a blur at this point

mellow bloom
#

how much aoe do you want @next ruin ( ALL OF IT )

young swan
#

I think uproar is pretty good

next ruin
#

All of it but OF

frigid zealot
#

Tichondrius

young swan
#

ok without OF uproar is pure bait

mellow bloom
#

rework WW, i like pressing clap

#

i hated pressing WW

nimble ermine
#

what if ww did actual damage

frigid zealot
#

clap feels good to press

#

ww just feels too wet noodle

serene vessel
mellow bloom
#

ansurek poison ring did ~ 1% in key

#

Feelsgoodman

storm birch
#

on minute 90 of trying to pug into a 12 keys D:

south kayak
tidal kindle
storm birch
#

lets see how much longer I can go

south kayak
#

For thane am

next ruin
young swan
#

lemme see if any of my thane keys got logged randomly

south kayak
#

Is AM buff on ptr

rigid minnow
#

Btw, are they nerfing dk? Didnt see anything in the patch notes but did not check too deep

winter shoal
#

The BT/RB buffs you mean Box?

#

Yeah

next ruin
#

Or I'm doing the burst wrong which is prolly an explaination of why it feels so clunky

south kayak
tidal kindle
young swan
winter shoal
tidal kindle
#

....surely

serene vessel
#

I feel like RA is just too good, no?

verbal rivet
young swan
#

ok none of them were logged

#

@next ruin I think the opener can be pretty smooth with all the stuff, you just have to be strict with globals

#

theres isnt much room for deviation

forest owl
#

i cant wait to see warcraftlogs raid 95th a week after this reset, so we can see some of the top specs now, do even better after reworks/buffs keks

frigid zealot
#

shaman cough

normal bane
#

Shaman is going to get nuked from orbit, I wouldn't be jealous of them for long

next ruin
frigid zealot
#

i dont even know how eleshaman 5 target aoe even managed to get on live

young swan
#

but if you dont run OF you def dont run roar

#

imo

frigid zealot
#

watched a friend on dummies on ptr

#

insane stupid strong

south kayak
next ruin
#

You mean spear m+???

frigid zealot
#

like 3 days ago?

young swan
next ruin
#

That's some cooking

inner shadow
#

wtf is this

south kayak
frigid zealot
#

he showed me in like the last week i think

frigid zealot
nimble ermine
#

i mean yeah idk uproar without of just feels like ass, no?

frigid zealot
#

was stupid

forest owl
#

i had a mad ele shammy in a pug key last week mad cause 'fury is nothing but bladestorm and go to top' then i looked at his dmg breakdown...like 30% chain lightning 🤣