fury

[stable brook]

i usually pull/am pulled off cause of roar+titan

you can just bust those on pull? i dont really believe that

unless hes ch shouting

[queen linden]

🤷‍♂️ Haven't had any issues ripping threat on pulls

[feral ivy]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/war-within-patch-11-0-5-patch-notes-20th-anniversary-celebration-348455

[stable brook]

i mean if a fury warrior charges->cds->roar and a tank has sent like 1 thunder clap theres not really anything the tank can do unless he has chshout off cd

[tacit hawk]

True but aren't bloodthirst hits weighted higher as well as Thunder Blast?

[queen linden]

😡

This patch snuck up on me.

[sick jungle]

adds still don't show on wcl for rash right

[queen linden]

No

[static rock]

is BS getting nerfed too?

[tidal kindle]

Next week

[sick jungle]

so next week they will show

got it

[queen linden]

No

[craggy sleet]

huh overwhelm nerf

[teal pine]

surely it doesnt still say warbringer

[craggy sleet]

arms still catching strays

[feral ivy]

other than odyn and TR got a buff lol

[craggy sleet]

LOL WARBRINGER

SoD rune moment

[static rock]

newest patch note now says warbreaker on wowhead

[feral ivy]

and odyn and tr only affects the first boss in mythic at most.. i cant find any place including m+ where we do more than 5 targets ofc some pulls yea but not all

[queen linden]

Love this line:

0x10% = 0.

Class cooked confirmed

[stiff barn]

I like how some classes get a ton of changes, even new talents and we get nothing really

[static rock]

we did the math, our ST basically didn't change b/c of overwhelmed nerfs

[sick jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[static rock]

our whole class tree and spec trees got an overhaul at end of DF

[sick jungle]

blizz hq trying to buff things

[stiff barn]

So did paladins and they still get new talents

[humble plover]

Ight I'ma go see if peak of serinity is dooming

[summer quail]

? it got a rearrangement, would not call that an overhaul

[crisp rain]

bruh Fury war already peaked, this class is cooked

[young swan]

definitely didnt

[craggy sleet]

im sure blizz intended on keeping smf even tho its a dead node in the talent 'arrangement'

[stiff barn]

I just wanted UF to go back to 20%

[jolly quail]

so how big of a hit are these changes for the big burst AoE moments in raid? specifically things like Rashan'an adds, Broodtwister in general, and Adds/Roots on Queen?

[median dust]

wasn't this kept so people could transmog one-handed weapons or something? lol

[craggy sleet]

ig lol

[queen linden]

Blizzard looking at this chart:

[summer quail]

iirc like 20%

[young swan]

#updates-midnight message

[queen linden]

Ahh yes... Enh needs a buff.

[stiff barn]

Those changes might possibly make thane better and make em use AM ?

[static rock]

we got BS back, new spec tree talents, and completely switched up captstone talent locations?

[stiff barn]

Maybe even more so worth with queen ring

[summer quail]

bruh you can't be serious

[young swan]

fixed 0 problems, even created new ones

[hasty tide]

Welp nerfs fully confirmed

Devs gonna dev

[wind torrent]

thats crazy

[feral ivy]

this was announced a month ago

[craggy sleet]

wtf insanity

[hasty tide]

Ptr is ptr, this is confirmed update

[queen linden]

Yes, but this is confirmed changes.

[buoyant salmon]

i mean having to sacrifice even a small amount of shockwave was a problem

[craggy sleet]

oh naw more uhh pally buffs

but they did remove strength of conviction

which was kinda big for paladins iirc

[young swan]

fixed 1 problem, created more

my bad

[buoyant salmon]

good boy

wait until ppl realize frost dk is getting buffed

[raw token]

Is the roar nerf new?

[queen linden]

no

[acoustic anchor]

nope

[hasty tide]

It was only on ptr, it's now confirmed coming to live

[raw token]

Dude this clsss is cursed lmao

[onyx cradle]

wait what?

[hasty tide]

Not everything that is on ptr comes to live, but these are now

[buoyant salmon]

[raw token]

Frost dk is just a better fury at this point

[queen linden]

Nice to see all these broken classes getting buffs while we catch L's

Surely 11.1.0 we'll be back

[craggy sleet]

its our fault tbh

[queen linden]

[craggy sleet]

we were broken for heroic week

[median dust]

It's almost like Blizzard does the class updates in alphabetical order and they run out of time when they get to warrior.

[craggy sleet]

then we were condemned

[queen linden]

Thanks liquid

[lone dove]

I mean we're getting single target buffs which is what we need, could be decent

[craggy sleet]

LOL

[crisp rain]

"broken" with 0 gear yeah

[queen linden]

My guy... lol

[arctic sinew]

what?

[median dust]

Just in time for the AoE nerfs

[crisp rain]

but fury doesn't scale as much

[rigid dove]

Lol the "buffs" dont actually buff.

[buoyant salmon]

i mean fury was straight ip broken when tthe patch dropped

[south kayak]

Well, they do buff AM a lot

[buoyant salmon]

wouldve been beyond broken for mythic

[summer quail]

ye the OF and Bladestorm nerfs were justified, the aura nerf was too much

[humble plover]

I don't see the issue with that. They clearly are ok with beyond broken

Unless it's us

[stable frost]

I'm so tired of getting nerfed over and over again man

[south kayak]

real

[queen linden]

Go play mage. They never get nerfed.

[south kayak]

That's why I'm rerolling

[teal pine]

red class is pretty fun

[south kayak]

blue too

[buoyant salmon]

maybe

[uneven plaza]

They left the nerfs in

its over boys

[median dust]

I can't get over this. It's painful.

[uneven plaza]

[rigid dove]

Red, light blue, and blue are fine. Even Pink is fine.

Brown, removed

[median dust]

Fury warrior Tuesday

[queen linden]

Confirmed blizz hates brown 👀

[buoyant salmon]

you guys act like this class is unplayably bad

lmao

[acoustic anchor]

My mans was sick of life :'(

[crisp rain]

I mean

[rigid dove]

Hate to see it

[kind fjord]

why is ret getting 6% ? lol

[crisp rain]

almost ?

[craggy sleet]

dont go fotm, doesnt mean youre gonna be magically good at a new spec/class

[clever path]

I'm just a bad player not wanting to be pushed down further

[south kayak]

Class talent rework nerfed them

[queen linden]

It's more so the fact that other classes that already out perform us keep getting buffs while we're getting nerfed.

[craggy sleet]

ye ^

[buoyant salmon]

ret is unbelievably easy you could reroll ret and be competent IMMEDIATELY

[craggy sleet]

this is actually true tbh

[quiet geyser]

What!!???

[rigid dove]

Ret is arguably one of the easiest in the game

[crisp rain]

for a class with no utility you need dmg to compensate

[south kayak]

althought 6% is too much, they don't care about warrior yet buff those classes doing insane damage

it's just plain clear

that's why i don't wanna play

[craggy sleet]

wym we have shockwave and an amazing raidwide rallying cry very cool epic

[onyx cradle]

ret is kinda fun too but i hate the yellow visuals

[median dust]

There is always someone. I think more people are wondering why overperforming classes are getting buffed still, but Fury overperformed for 6 days and got the boot on neck treatment.

[queen linden]

Here's hoping the nerfs are enough to bury us and then we'll catch some week 2 buffs

[craggy sleet]

everyone perform horribly in ur reclears

[queen linden]

Sandbag the shit out of your logs

[crisp rain]

maybe at the bottom we will get a 6% buff ?

[median dust]

the only thing I can think of is they are nerfing fury in attempts to buff and balance Thane. idk

[slim grotto]

Gray parse week on reset bois! We have to come together

[acoustic anchor]

Spread out over 6 weeks

[humble plover]

Why would we get a buff from the bottom? That's where they want us to be

[crisp rain]

litteraly that

[quiet geyser]

Rash AoE logs are going back in. Furys gonna jump to near the top again due to pad

[queen linden]

Grey parse every week** \

[buoyant salmon]

fury wouldve been insanely broken all patch long

[slim grotto]

Single digit parses like our IQs

[acoustic anchor]

Why are they suddenly being added again? xd

[buoyant salmon]

stop acting like fury was only going to be good on heroic week lmao

[red berry]

what. those changes were coming before the thane buff? Which - isn’t significantly stronger then slayer in reality and actual play

[buoyant salmon]

bc it was a weird as fuck change

[queen linden]

shhhh

[quiet geyser]

Because it was dumb as hell taking them out in the first place? Those adds are arguably the most important part of that boss fight lol

[queen linden]

Because WCL dumb.

[buoyant salmon]

do i think specs like frost enhance etc shouldve gotten nerfed? of course

[hard widget]

Holdon

Am i blind or is the roar nerf not in there

[median dust]

Yes, killing small mobs fast is insanely broken. They prob just want Ret to be able to do it better

At the top Jev

[buoyant salmon]

the narrative that fury would only be good in heroic week is just wrong

[hard widget]

Nvm

[blissful delta]

roar nerf is there

[hard widget]

Im blind

xD

[median dust]

I thought so too

lol

[quiet geyser]

Its there. In class section

[hard widget]

Ye im just blind

Time to go to specsavers

[summer quail]

i did not see it at first either

[queen linden]

Confirmed

[buoyant salmon]

ret doesnt do it better though

[hard widget]

I just tried to

[quiet geyser]

JeventesTheBlindTV

[buoyant salmon]

check any broodtwister log

[blissful delta]

gg we dead we reroll again to ret

[hard widget]

Blindventes

[craggy sleet]

just in time for the new judgement set!!!

[queen linden]

Looks like shit

[rigid dove]

That's CRAZY lol

[slim grotto]

We all go prot dps

[wheat estuary]

What over performing specs are getting buffed?

[acoustic anchor]

Only when gnome can be pally

[buoyant salmon]

ret is a great class all around but saying its burst aoe is better than fury is proveably false

[median dust]

it doesn't make it OP either lol. that's the point. Less than 20% of the end game content requires it

[buoyant salmon]

i know frost dk is havent rlly looked at any other changes

[quiet geyser]

Ret also loses a shit ton of dmg to do AoE. Fury loses next to nothing

[south kayak]

they're getting Deathbringer changes but I guess yeah they are buffs

[buoyant salmon]

a shit ton is an overexaggeration but heah

geah

[south kayak]

should be nerfed tho to compensate

[buoyant salmon]

they lose more

[spare steppe]

God damn they kept the fury nerfs

[quiet geyser]

Compared to what fury loses lol it isnt

[serene vessel]

Fdk is getting buffed?

[buoyant salmon]

they have a very small auto glacial advance nerf

[hard widget]

When do we get a 6% all ability buff

[south kayak]

They never revert changes unless balance druids complain

[buoyant salmon]

which is fuckall compensation nerf

[south kayak]

bubt we're not balance druid

[queen linden]

Elemental, Enh, Assassination, Monk, Balance, etc

[red berry]

tbf ret can still keep up with fury in ST while doing AoE for keys

[verbal rivet]

Ele Shams

[south kayak]

doubt it's a compensation nerf, the talent is too strong

[red berry]

you see this in the person that plays with criticake

which what he had to say about it right

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think ww is overperforming in any capacity

[quiet geyser]

Can fury just get like a 50% execute buff

Please

[queen linden]

Blizzard way over shot with balance druids. They're already pumping and about to catch a fucking huge buff

[south kayak]

you're not getting buffs

reroll

[red berry]

it ain’t a skill issue

[buoyant salmon]

ret is a higher baseline

[south kayak]

Yeah I know

[buoyant salmon]

they lose a higher percentage of damage to do aoe

[red berry]

of course they do

[median dust]

and they still do massive aoe, more than fury

like make a point dude

[spare steppe]

I’m happy for boomies

[buoyant salmon]

ret is one of the best specs in the game ive literally never said anything different

[queen linden]

Fuck boomies

[spare steppe]

Boomies are great

[south kayak]

Boomies are cool

I started leveling one

[spare steppe]

Boo to rets they’re bums

[red berry]

idk if the point functionally matters because a lot of classes can keep or outperform fury in AoE while doing just as much ST

[spare steppe]

More

We aren’t fighting well for ST

[red berry]

and frankly, a 25/30% change to BT and RB alone is

so weird

Allen

alone? Phone

[median dust]

And they are getting ability buffs. Yet, Fury is still getting a boot and it's impacting the other 2 specs. Saying.. "it's not that bad" when the numbers literally tell you it is..... Is just some weird copium shit.

[south kayak]

That's not weird considering it was to buff AM

[buoyant salmon]

its not really weird with what they said

[red berry]

yes

[normal bane]

thats some cope

[buoyant salmon]

aggregate data is shit data

[oak pecan]

how the fuck are ret pallies getting buffed by 6 whole fucking percent?!

[quiet geyser]

Thats not the argument though. Noone is saying fury is good at ST, it just straight up isnt, BUT we lose next to no ST damage to do AoE compared to some other specs

[median dust]

"just sim it lawl"

[buoyant salmon]

do i think fury is great? no of course not but its not bad like ppl say it is

its just kinda mid

[south kayak]

I am a 5 star man

fuck mid

[spare steppe]

Pretty sure that’s only Templar

[vernal laurel]

How much dps % are we losing with the patch?

[oak pecan]

just says damage increased by 6%

[wheat estuary]

They aren’t they’re getting talents removed and stuff so that’s to compensate for what they lose, it’s a few percent nerf all in all

[arctic sinew]

97% normalized

[vernal laurel]

Ty, understandable, we absolutey needed heavy nerfs 🙂 / s

[crisp rain]

it's mid, but war is about the dmg, we have nothing else

[feral ivy]

lol why is ret shield of righteous dmg increase when they dont use shields lol

[oak pecan]

i see

[willow cradle]

Meanwhile Warrior with no equitable compensation

[median dust]

Saying it's mid my Tuesday is wild. Lowering AoE cap on CD's and barely buffing a talent nobody is using.....but w/e lol agree to disagree.

[blissful delta]

how much is 'reduced damage' 50% of the original value or?

[median dust]

You have a 3 min 10% health buff buddy.. You slow down!

[south kayak]

if you don't like the nerfs just don't play warrior

[dry bone]

when do you guys start getting invited regularly to 8+?

[south kayak]

they'll see the reduction in warrior players

[dry bone]

im 615 right now and cant even get into 7s

makes me want to just not play this alt 😦

[teal pine]

Warrior is great in raid and AM buff is big for m+.
Its not all doom

[night relic]

It’s doomposting hour

[buoyant salmon]

run your own keys

[night relic]

Shut it

[frigid temple]

when you roll prot

[vernal laurel]

The aoe cap nerfs are just much more impactul than the AM buffs though right?

[warm crag]

stop being reasonable immediately

[median dust]

The only purpose AM will have M+ is lower keys.

[normal bane]

is the am buff even that good for keys

[dry bone]

rofl, honestly i might just

[red berry]

ravager is so limp and AM is not that great for slayer

[honest sundial]

Buck Flizzard

[frigid temple]

I pugged to 2500 as tank, not too bad

war tank is so easy

[buoyant salmon]

prot warrior plays like a dos

dps

[frigid temple]

keep defs up, spell block every now and again

gg

[dry bone]

but i want to see the big numbers 😦

[frigid temple]

I did just have a 2490 MM hunter die 16+ in a +10 cot......

[frigid temple]

then roll enhance

[dry bone]

tanking and healing is for soyboys

[buoyant salmon]

can do well over 1m as prot

[dry bone]

too many buttons lol

[buoyant salmon]

beat some dps while youre at it

[median dust]

You thought it was hard to pug high keys now as warrior? Wait till Tuesday lmao.

[frigid temple]

^^^

[subtle scarab]

can pretty easily do 1.3-1.5mil in colossus prot

[frigid temple]

Ive been running w/ a balance

[dry bone]

is that when the aoe cap comes into play

[winter shoal]

🤮

Imagine not clappa

[frigid temple]

Wtf is colussus

never heard of her

[subtle scarab]

dont wanna play the roulette wheel for clappa procs

rather just have revenge do a bajillion dmg

[median dust]

Yes and AM is irrelevant at higher keys

[frigid temple]

[night relic]

denier

Ban

[winter shoal]

real

[quiet geyser]

Irrelevant is a strong word

[tender forge]

guys , should i craft a weapon with the runed harbringer crest or hold off til i have gilded

[verbal rivet]

Clappa be wildin

[verbal rivet]

Become Frost DK

[frigid temple]

You can always recraft

[verbal rivet]

Only play

[dry bone]

tbf most tanks pull like pussies anyways

[frigid temple]

more about money

[humble plover]

Yay the return of AM. I'm sooooo excited

[teal pine]

Id definitely much rather not get the cap nerf but idk how much it actually changes

[tender forge]

ive never done that lol , ill look it up thanks

[livid marsh]

you get a free enchanted runed crest when you do the raid in story mode

[median dust]

Because if you're pulling to make AM useful, you'll prob brick the key anyway

[feral ivy]

i think ill be fine with these non stop nerfs if i see nerfs to other classes that are doing top dmg but im scanning through this and all im seeing is buff buff buff

[frigid temple]

Instead of picking what you wanna craft, there is a recraft button on top left.

[tender forge]

wot

[frigid temple]

Fury is dead, reroll prot or change class

[tender forge]

no way i never knew this!

[south kayak]

real

[buoyant salmon]

wouldnt really say pretty easily

[quiet geyser]

What? How lol

[buoyant salmon]

but you can yeah

[dry bone]

im already maxed out on my frost DK so am on my fury alt now

[feral ivy]

im 628 ilvl im in deep waters i cant leave now

[frigid temple]

wrong alt, reroll sin

[dry bone]

plate or bust

[frigid temple]

Have fun under me

[normal bane]

ret is probably the best pug dps for non like 14-15 keys

[acoustic basalt]

from quest

[livid marsh]

nah thats frost

[normal bane]

what the tanks pulling doesnt matter, cds every 30 seconds, how long it lives doesn't really matter

[feral ivy]

nice gratz

[normal bane]

ret is definitely better than frost in non coordinated/mid-ish lvl keys

[livid marsh]

ams and other utility on top of insane damage

[verbal rivet]

Gotta be on a 595 alt, only option

[night relic]

Can’t rly fuck up ret

[livid marsh]

neither can you really fuck up as a frost

[subtle scarab]

does a kindly math man have the answer to about how much of a nerf it is to dragon roar? all I am here to find out.

[quiet geyser]

Make sure to sim it. It was. 20k dps loss for me

[night relic]

3 panic buttons + cleanse + easy CDs

[normal bane]

frost your dependent on big pulls around breath

ret doesn't give a shit

[verbal rivet]

Ret gets wings for everything

[dry bone]

ret is bullshit fluff damage

[teal pine]

breath below like 13 i swear isnt even the play

rider is super underrated and idk why

[buoyant salmon]

you can fuck up on frost a lot lol

[livid marsh]

simple, just dont play breath

[buoyant salmon]

theres a lot of minmaxing you can do on frost

infinitely more than warrior

[verbal rivet]

Lame

[feral ivy]

i love it does go page list of buffs to other classes and then it comes to warriors its a 1 liner lol

[crisp rain]

because 3min cooldown

[dry bone]

if you play breath, you cant really mess up at all

[teal pine]

rider is better at almost all key levels and you cant mess it up

[teal pine]

its 1.5

[crisp rain]

my bad

[buoyant salmon]

you play short wyrm

[dry bone]

rider loses a lot in ST damage though

[buoyant salmon]

rider and beathbringer are both pretty good

[median dust]

im telling ya. They go in alphabetical order and ran out of time for warrior and Warlock lol

[south kayak]

breathbringer*

[fickle cedar]

I only play fury so I only scroll to fury, did they nerf other specs ?

[dry bone]

honestly, once fort is an affix in your keys (whether thats fort week or at 10+) then you can play breath and it will be better

[median dust]

All warriors are impacted by fury nerfs

[south kayak]

Not really

[buoyant salmon]

yeah its a bigass patch

[south kayak]

this patch is

[quiet geyser]

Usually lock gets 5 pages of updates every patch, so, no.

[buoyant salmon]

anything under 10 matters 0

[south kayak]

don't play warrior patch

[frank dawn]

what class we rerolling to bois

[buoyant salmon]

anything under 12 only kind of matters

[frank dawn]

are we all dks or rets

what do

[dry bone]

yeah but its like 80% of the playerbase

[south kayak]

Rerolling to blue already

[median dust]

i'm talking about this patch.

[next ruin]

my MT m+ build sims 23% more than Slayer m+ build in dungeon slice, is it cos dungeon slice is bad and favors chain pulling / consistent damage profile of mountain thane?

[south kayak]

(Thunderous Roar now deals reduced damage beyond 5 targets (was 8) - this doesn't affect the DoT, so isn't actually that much of a nerf.)

wait a doggone minute

so that's not really a nerf is it lmao

the frontloaded damage of TR is barely much

[crisp rain]

unfortunately mt is still kinda bad in single target

[south kayak]

yeah for Raid

but not in M+ build

[feral ivy]

where does it say it doesnt affect the dot?

[winter shoal]

#updates-midnight message

[south kayak]

Archimtiros said it

in the updates channel

[feral ivy]

oh

[old ember]

Man critcake needs to make a twitter so he can do the why are you nerfing an underperforming spec post, only thing blizzard listens to

[acoustic basalt]

for me it's upgrade apparently

[winter shoal]

MT is more ahead in aoe than it is behind in single target

Provided things outlive your aoe burst as slayer

[crisp rain]

in 10+ keys I agree

[hasty tide]

I'm just gonna go prot, I'm too dumb to learn a new class

[quiet geyser]

For a lot of peole it will be. Personally i have 2 high ilvl high mastery rings, which are greatly outperforming the poison ring

[buoyant salmon]

it was -20k in st?

[quiet geyser]

Yup

[winter shoal]

Was that 20k with other gear swapped or just the rings? If you can make up the mastery elsewhere it might still be worth

If not then unlucky go next

[quiet geyser]

I know, i thought the same thing. But ya apparently the steroided mastery is better for me

[inner harbor]

blizzard just trolling me at this point

[young swan]

LMFAO

shouldve just dodged it

[feral ivy]

be a NE and shadowmeld that

lol give it to someone else to deal with

[inner harbor]

yes should've reflected it

[young swan]

cant do that

have to use leap

[fickle cedar]

it's pretty chill downstairs

[young swan]

ofc if u dodge it ur dead 45s later

[feral ivy]

i wonder if ppl are actually leaving warrior and maining another

[night relic]

Doesn’t the debuff kill u

[young swan]

yeah

but he has a warlock

soulstone OP

[night relic]

Hmm

[young swan]

dead for less than a second

the real question is if the damage you gain over those 45s is enough to make up the 15s added to the timer

[pearl crypt]

culling cycone or brutal finish sikran?

[quiet geyser]

Culling

[median dust]

Seen some wacky shit past 2 weeks. Poor guy guy side stepped

[young swan]

holy fuck thats good

[serene vessel]

I mean all it really has to be is, can you clear the gauntlet + send down time in less than 15 seconds, right?

If you can't, it's worth it

[young swan]

sure but thats less fun

[median dust]

Not sure why the video is faded but this is great too

michael phelps boss

[inner harbor]

ahahhaha that charge

[young swan]

god i fucking love world of warcraft

[inner harbor]

had this bug too that's fucked up

[south kayak]

HAHAHHAHAHA

[restive peak]

Just play unholy like a true chad 🙂

[buoyant salmon]

i do

[restive peak]

Also you guys got Aya back

HYUGGEEEEE

[buoyant salmon]

though i started to learn how to play frost

[restive peak]

Ye UH is so much fun

[buoyant salmon]

bc i liked it in s4 shadowlands in the few keys i did

theres so much minmaxing you can do though

[buoyant salmon]

yessir

where r u raiding now

[unreal onyx]

nice

[restive peak]

I went to Divide, 2 days, we chillin

[unreal onyx]

I lost hc transmitter to enh

bc it sims trash in ST

[restive peak]

The Rhythm exodus is happening, it's real bad

[median dust]

was my first class in shadowlands. loved UH back in the day

[restive peak]

I'd see about coming w Aya but then Grom may have his 13th reason and we can't allow that

Also I'm gettin old man, 1am sucks now

Divide is 730-1130 and it's goat'd

Finished raid yday and was like "holy fuck i can sleep?"

[buoyant salmon]

ill reroll dh so u can be 1/2 war

[wanton mirage]

Share me your UI bro

[restive peak]

(I'd be 1)

😛

You don't wanna play DH brotato, DH is dog this tier

[heavy dock]

did they nerf us charging out of roots in city of threads?

i keep getting no path available

[restive peak]

No

Just bad luck

[heavy dock]

nah

4 times in a row?

[median dust]

or you had the wrong talent

[heavy dock]

i could never charge

oh..

thane

right

pf

[median dust]

lol

gg

[heavy dock]

ok im playing slayer in city fo threads

xd

[chilly fractal]

Holy shit

[feral ivy]

happened to me yesterday for the 2nd boss in COT i was wondering why the debuff was still on

[chilly fractal]

That made my day

[median dust]

half of our raid is over the pond so they end up raiding at like 2am their time

[lone plank]

just play enh

6 enh

on silken

boss dies

[feral ivy]

i herd enhance is the hardest class

[restive peak]

LOL

Enhance isn't hard, no class is, it's just wonky

Whack-a-mole-esque

[median dust]

i didn't like the casino royale style of play

[restive peak]

Honestly Divide is a vibe, such an upbeat environment and everyone does their jobs

2 days lets me sleep more

[median dust]

I'm too old to play that prob

[restive peak]

M+ more

[south kayak]

im playing enha rn

top 5 damage with 6 ilvls less than raid

gg

[feral ivy]

ngl i was going to switch to enhance if they could mog thunderfury i just got it the other day and non of my classes play 1h sword mogers

[restive peak]

Ye enh is giga cracked, enh/frost dk catching buffs somehow too

[south kayak]

well, yeah

but thy're changes to talents and stuff

[restive peak]

FDK is a 5% buff

[median dust]

i would play a little paladin, but i swear when I play that class I feel like I'm swinging in the air and the abilities have 0 substance.. But I look at details and I did 1231313442 dps

[restive peak]

Overall according to Meeres

Which just boggles my fuckin mind

[buoyant salmon]

yeah idk what the idea was for frost

that shit is insane

[merry umbra]

which talent to drop so I can use SMF? I just cant seem to find any SMF build on internet, i know its inferior but I want to play it for fun witouth being too bad

[buoyant salmon]

dh is fun rho

tho

[restive peak]

Get them to change raid to 8-12 and I'm there

Lol

[heavy galleon]

many war are back to slayer ?

[quiet geyser]

Wait

Enhance is getting a buff???

[median dust]

M+ is where you find out who your real push friends are

[inner harbor]

yes

[restive peak]

Yep

[median dust]

i was in discord with like 10 other people and just busted out laughing

[signal peak]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/tier-lists/dps-rankings-mythic-plus

[bitter palm]

adding them to your +2 group*

fury is so bad

cant even do 2s

tank dps in aoe

[feral ivy]

LOL i love that last sentence in the top paragraph

[median dust]

Where is the addon that allows me to attach a pdf resume' to +12 keys while applying?

[signal peak]

It's called raider.io

[marble swift]

Based

[unreal stump]

Some1 knows if after 0.5 it will be played RA or AM?

[bright kite]

maybe next patch Spear time instead of thunderous roar?

[queen linden]

Fuck lmao that's amazing

[barren ore]

0.5 we farm T2 transmog and then deinstall the game until season 2

[marble swift]

Roll a ret or dk for .5

[thorny shoal]

TRUE

im farming t2 then dipping when poe2 early access starts, my fav spec getting nerfed over and over has soured my taste of this season

[unreal stump]

SAMEim rerolling to retardin just to blast i guess

[marble swift]

Patch notes are wholly disconnected from actual meta it's incredible

[red berry]

roar will still be stronger then spear in AoE

[marble swift]

Like a dev snapped and went awhol

[red berry]

the DoT is still strong

[somber elk]

guys what do you think am thane or am slayer next week? in keys

[unreal stump]

thane

[marble swift]

Thane

[unreal stump]

always

[velvet bluff]

thane is so good

in m+

[marble swift]

Slayers dead in keys especially with cap

[fiery thorn]

sure would be a shame if the class used for bursting a lot of targets on mythic queen got its target cap lowered next week

[unreal stump]

so good its not how i would describe it but ok

[next ruin]

do we have some no OF sims for m+ ?

[velvet bluff]

compared to slayer

[limpid burrow]

Yo, what should i be setting my sim options for if I want to sim for m+?

Is it dungeon slice and for how long?

[sullen dove]

Troar dot cap not changing

not too shabby then

Rip of still

[restive peak]

It's very minimal

[kind fjord]

thane m+ build - is it moving off Odyn's fury on reset?

[restive peak]

The worst thing is enh/ret/fdk getting buffed, not our nerfs lol

[south kayak]

The changes to their talents buffed them but I guess they forgot to nerf to compensate for that lmao

[fiery thorn]

yeah they should throw another 30% buff to ret to be safe i think

[restive peak]

They just do not care this tier, it's pretty apparent

[median dust]

which is technically a nerf to us.. Might a well be a hunter at this point, but they bring lust.

[eternal sundial]

ret buff is wild

[south kayak]

Then I don't care about warrior

[red berry]

i think what archi suggested was

[eternal sundial]

in other news mine hit 80 today

[red berry]

moving the damage into dots

[restive peak]

I don't even care that we get nerfed sometimes, I just wish they would explain this shit

[red berry]

and i think that would be a very good solution

[restive peak]

Like why was it SO imperative to insta nerf fury multiple times

[south kayak]

I know it doesn't help much but their class talent was reworked which nerfed ret

[red berry]

yes, they really need to fucking explain how they do their balancing. its frankly alienating

and bizarre

[restive peak]

But weeks in, watching these other specs gap us, nothing changes still?

[heavy galleon]

"too much burst on raid so nerf"

[red berry]

im actually baffled at the 6% buff to ret and frost getting

anything positive

[restive peak]

The initial nerf was fair

[fiery thorn]

i care that we get nerfed consecutively while specs that are straight up better get buffed consecutively

[eternal sundial]

remember guys the only constructive argument is a death threat to a dev

[fiery thorn]

its just annoying

[eternal sundial]

[restive peak]

The 20% bs/15 OF and even the 3% maybe

[eternal sundial]

enha moment

[restive peak]

But then you go buff ret/frost?

Like why

[median dust]

That's what I was saying earlier.. They saw brown on top and was like.. "Red Button"

[south kayak]

Well, according to mages and boomkins, it is

it makes sense why we don't get reverted changes

or buffs

becuase we don't do that

[eternal sundial]

@median dusti thought you pfp was a turkey from thanksgiving but its actually a dawg

[fiery thorn]

any why does arms have to keep copping strays

that makes 0 sense

[thorny shoal]

im convinced they spin a wheel or something, we just got the bad rng of getting our wheel stopped on nerf several times in a row

[hidden river]

SO fury is dead everyone

[eternal sundial]

in southpark they behead a chicken and have it run around on a board

[restive peak]

No it's in the same place as now

[feral ivy]

i think we should all get mad if we open vault as fury we get 1h weps still... LETS REVOLT AGINST THAT!

[south kayak]

new main

[hidden river]

In comparison to other melees? We are cooked lmao

[arctic salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-margarita-ville-stock-market-wheel-headless-gif-17896977

[thorny shoal]

oh yeah i remember

[next ruin]

if it were random it wouldn't be warrior only

[eternal sundial]

why are you shart orc

dumb as hell

[south kayak]

old char

i don't care about racials to bother with leveling another shaman

[eternal sundial]

just looks shit

[south kayak]

I think it looks cool tbh

why do they keep giving frost more killing machine procs

I already overcap on them on the regular

stop

[eternal sundial]

maybe ur not good at frost

[south kayak]

so true

[next ruin]

talking about being bad, which build is the noob friendly for m+ i feel like i really do suck and need the easy mode, slayer ?

[arctic sinew]

both are giga easy

[quiet geyser]

Slayer is easier though, yeah

[arctic sinew]

as long as you keep your gcd rolling and press cds on big pulls you'll do fine

[frail trout]

Wait, how do abilities that are partially upfront damage but mostly dot damage interact with aoe soft caps? Is the dot unaffected?

[silk wharf]

Correct.

afaik

[frail trout]

If true then the soft cap change shouldn't be that awful right?

Troar is mostly dot, I guess odyns fury has a bigger upfront component but the dot receives a lot of damage from talents

[silk wharf]

Im reading Archi's recap now in the updates channel.

[frail trout]

Oh his update covers this already

[warm crag]

cant believe they nerfed my fucking warbringer man

[frail trout]

Didn't even see there was an update

gg

[fossil cloak]

i am the warbringer

[south kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1067788916876382208/1061371856252321943.gif

[bright kite]

Bloodthirst (not Bloodbath) damage increased by 30%.
Raging Blow (not Crushing Blow) damage increased by 25%.

[smoky vale]

WARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGERWARBRINGER

[bright kite]

this is good right? at least something

[flat river]

do u think thane in raid is viable?

[mild owl]

it comes out net neutral from what i remember

with the nerfs on slayer and this small buff

[warm crag]

viable for your purposes

rn you can play thane on ovinax and court maybe

[flat river]

first bos

[warm crag]

slayer on first boss

you're there to snipe the adds or spec arms shrug

[unreal onyx]

2 mandates dropped

got neither with "bis" roll

nice

[warm crag]

rolled

[unreal onyx]

and enh got transmitter bc "bigger sim upgrade"

[warm crag]

lol

[eager thorn]

is rashanan bugged or is he just not meant to always clear acid pools near where he lands

[unreal onyx]

he doesn't clear all, I think only in the direct vincinity

[warm crag]

hes supposed to clear a bit but not perfectly i think

[eager thorn]

having a lot of pulls where the pull circle has an acid pool taking up like 90% of the space

[velvet bluff]

what difficulty

[eager thorn]

mythic

he clears sometimes

just not all the time

[celest prairie]

How we feeling about the fury changes gang?

[velvet bluff]

i dont think he clears webs unless they're ontop of him

[eager thorn]

the acid not the webs

[barren coral]

iis this real?

link?

[velvet bluff]

had that happen on a few pulls

[median dust]

it's real

[velvet bluff]

but everyone can stand in the pull still

[somber elk]

Blizzard is just a joke

[lyric saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-gif-26978290

[velvet bluff]

they needa take back that 3% nerf

[honest sundial]

If anyone wants to support warrior case
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/we-demand-buffs-or-reverting-nerfs/543941

[feral ivy]

I mean if everyone goes to the forum and complain maby they listen ??

If your going to make a forum at least show proof and not damn blizzard lol

[south kayak]

I don't think you'll get any devs checking that with the amount of swearing and insulting the devs lmao

[honest sundial]

We were nice for too long
They did not listen

[sick jungle]

guys i disabled elvui and now I don't have the raid info button thats usually sitting at the top of the screen

anyone got a good addon that does the same shit

[candid hamlet]

are nerfs this significant? I just levelled a warrior so I don't know

[south kayak]

not really that significant, no

[candid hamlet]

I mean, just myself, but usually nerfs only affect the top 1% and the rest don't notice it much. But I could be wrong in this case?

[fading sky]

Thing is

We are allready pretty bad

So gettin a nerf hurts

[south kayak]

we are not pretty bad

but okay

[fading sky]

Or well m+ wise if they want melee dk, rogue ret will get spot

Easiøy

So we are bad in m+ content vs our competitors

But not bad in the bigger scheme

[frozen marten]

Wish I were a pally. If they’re below average for even half a season, Blizz completely re-works them to make them A-tier. Would be nice to be one of the favoured classes.

[south kayak]

That's why you reroll to thefavored classes

[somber elk]

Changes are nerfs for Ret actually

[fading sky]

How

[south kayak]

The class tree reworks are nerfs

[teal pine]

But didn’t you see

[south kayak]

but the buff is way more than the nerfs are worth

so no

they're not nerfs

[fading sky]

Ye ngl ret since df has gotten big rewards

[teal pine]

[restive peak]

It's like a 2.5% ret buff

[fading sky]

Why???

[somber elk]

In Class Discord they say 3% st nerf and more in aoe

[restive peak]

We do not know

[fading sky]

They allready blast?

[restive peak]

Yeah FDK said the same thing; turns out it's actually a 5% buff

[south kayak]

They overshot the compensation buffs

[teal pine]

No one said fdk changes were a nerf

[fading sky]

And warrior just nerfs🤣

[restive peak]

FDKs sure did at first

[fading sky]

Or zero change

[restive peak]

We never get compensation and this is the issue, the notes even state their goal was for our burst to go down but ST up

[teal pine]

No they didn’t. They’ve been known buffs since day 1

[restive peak]

So they nerfed us...put the ST net equal via a "buff", which isn't a buff, and then called it an ST buff

[fading sky]

Our st did in fact not go up

[teal pine]

Maybe trade chat dks thought they were nerfs

[fading sky]

Just buff thane

To be best st

[restive peak]

UHDK went untouched as well which is wild

[fading sky]

Yeah yhdk blast!!!

[south kayak]

Why bother asking these questions here

shit balancing

just go ahead play other classes

[restive peak]

Think everyone is just venting, which is cool as long as it stays tame

[silk wharf]

nerfs are often about perception. Fury was perceived to be busted because it was so suited to the raids design and timings.

But, as we can see, when those damage sources fury was good at dealing are removed its quite bad.

[fading sky]

Dooming brother

[restive peak]

We warned them, over and over

They just do not care

[weary sail]

[south kayak]

Well someone on the FDK channel said that the buffs are like 5% st but they're neutral in aoe @restive peak

[livid marsh]

who would have guessed a class that performs well on a 90 second burst window would do very well into raid designs that favor classes that do 90 second burst windows

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-shocked-shock-mild-gif-5292523

[weary sail]

Why they keep nerfing us man we arent even strong anymore

[restive peak]

Neutral in AOE?! Those poor things.

[rocky sand]

is 2xVC + WT good in 10+ keys

[south kayak]

lmao

[quiet geyser]

I mean when you already have the most busted AoE and still getting a st buff... not a bad day for them eh

[livid marsh]

i prefer it over of, its not a big dps loss and having more st and prio damage is better

[south kayak]

not saying it is a bad day, just stating facts

[livid marsh]

fact is that im already gearing my fdk

[sleek badge]

Guys is bloodmallet accurate for M+ ?

[restive peak]

I'm just playing my warr w peeps I know and using my UHDK to pug, personally

[quiet geyser]

Blizzard balancing choices is the intellectual equivalency of people who wear masks driving in their car, alone.

[fading sky]

Problem is i got no time to gear alt🥲🥲

[tidal kindle]

Explain perception of dk enh buffs

https://tenor.com/view/checkmate-mrw-reaction-reactions-jeff-goldblume-gif-5098925

[frail spire]

for how much community representation there is for warrior dps, theres really seems to be a shocking lack of listening from blizz

[restive peak]

Because warrior players are giga loyal, we never actually swap

When I play my UHDK I feel dirty, tbh

[frail spire]

it doesnt add up lmao, im not demanding a dev to sit in discords with us but they sure do it for other specs still right?

[gilded pawn]

anyone who thinks frost is ok is delulu

[restive peak]

It's like going from extreme to easy

[arctic sinew]

because brown meter on details = fun, orange/yellow/red meter = boring

[tired brook]

just blame maximum

he nerfed fury

[somber elk]

Is the tww updates channel gone?

[quiet geyser]

You are dirty 😉

[gusty hazel]

Started hitting mastery softcap.
Do we just go deep, or follow sims religiously? M+ main so sims are wonky (dont trust dungeonslice)

[gilded pawn]

follow sims

[tidal kindle]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[gilded pawn]

follow ST sims

[restive peak]

Max chuckled yesterday when he saw the warr changes and shook his head

[opaque bolt]

does anyone know how to config the sr reminder for kyveza on mrt

[restive peak]

You're supposed to keep that private...

[opaque bolt]

i have absolute no clue

[south kayak]

btw ele is gonna be insane in .5

just watch

pepelaugh

[quiet geyser]

Na dude

Balance druid

Is gonna be busted

[restive peak]

Seen the 1 ele clip?

[south kayak]

everyone except war is gonna be busted got it

[restive peak]

https://imgur.com/ccu7dbw

[south kayak]

yeah but to be fair that was with max stacks of spymaster's

[restive peak]

IDGAF

There's no justification for 20mil+ on 5 targets

[livid marsh]

0.5 ?

[restive peak]

Ye that's PTR

[livid marsh]

damn

[tidal kindle]

Fury niche btw....

[arctic sinew]

it seemed to drop off after a while so this needs a compensation buff tbh

[south kayak]

99% of specs can't even get that much burst on the first nw pull lmao

[tidal kindle]

[restive peak]

Right

No spec reaches that on NW 1st pull

[frail spire]

is this actual PTR footage

[restive peak]

Even FDK+UHDK cap at like 14mil

[restive peak]

yes

[tidal kindle]

630 china udk does 19m

[restive peak]

He isn't human doesn't count, robotman

[south kayak]

Blizzard is gonna see how nuts ele is when it comes out in m+

[restive peak]

But yeah at least that's 20 targets

[sick jungle]

what the

[south kayak]

and they'll knee jerk nerf them

giga

[sick jungle]

brb rolling ele

[south kayak]

you'll see

[restive peak]

I mean they shouldn't have to wait and see, they should ALREADY KNOW

[frail spire]

FOTM reroll completed

[young swan]

very nice, lets see vils burst now

[restive peak]

They literally code the game

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KgXhC/64855ae759.png

[south kayak]

I know but they don't seem to know for some fucking reason

[restive peak]

LOOOOOOOOOOL what pull is that @modest condor

[modest condor]

first pull NW

[covert void]

this. like, how don't they know? of course they know. the same way they've known for weeks what the op specs are.

[modest condor]

but they pulled it on top of the boss as well

[restive peak]

Is that like MDI entire room shit? Or fr

[modest condor]

MDI shit yeah

[young swan]

its MDI shit

[restive peak]

Oh yeah I don't care about that tbh

[covert void]

it's okay, we're fine 😂

[south kayak]

lmao ele would be at 80 m dps there

[restive peak]

I mean if someone starts droppin 27mil on a 15 1st NW pull, there needs to be some nerfin

Bro the forums LOL

[restive peak]

LMAO

[sick jungle]

guess I gotta lvl up my shaman

jeez

[restive peak]

This guys gettin banned fr fr

[south kayak]

I LOVE THIS WORD

[restive peak]

It's makin a comeback I've noticed

[south kayak]

We can't use it here sadly

[restive peak]

I mean we shouldn't

It's just funny someone posted that on the forums

[winter shoal]

Delet this

[sick jungle]

lincc bro when are you dropping the fury warr commentary

[humble plover]

Average warlock

[restive peak]

I am however deleting it lol

[sick jungle]

you said it was coming but you're having too much fun on dk

[coarse nest]

Legitimate question

[restive peak]

I keep sayin whenever @sudden tusk wants to host a chat, I'm there man

[coarse nest]

I’m not bothered

[restive peak]

I got 3k on my warr today, UHDK is still down at 2900

I feel dirty on DK

[sudden tusk]

not sure when ill do my next one

[sick jungle]

very nice

[sudden tusk]

prob after prog

[sick jungle]

i'm over here wanting to time 10s

[restive peak]

There's your answer Volv 😛

[verbal rivet]

My 2150 io looks mid af now

On prot

[sick jungle]

why do you need madox for a fury warr m+ commentary vid

:D

[open prairie]

wait why is ret being buffed

[modest condor]

[gilded pawn]

they lost 5% haste from talents

or something

[quiet geyser]

Cuz blizz is dumb

[gilded pawn]

so they NEED compensation

for sure

[open prairie]

i dont think 5% haste

[tidal kindle]

They are deleting warrior
Dk getting big execute with reaper buffs and ret getting burst every pack with decent ST while nerfing arms and fury

[south kayak]

@restive peak Ele just figured out a huge nerf in the notes lmao

[open prairie]

is worth 6% damage

[tidal kindle]

Show me where im wrong

[fading sky]

Facts

[coarse nest]

This is just so hot bro why doesn’t thane look like this

The entire fight

[vast egret]

They’ll see it and nerf fury

[midnight kite]

Warrior gets balanced around their best case scenarios

[fading sky]

Im so fickin mad i was going dk but guild needed 1 warrior so i stayed warrior

[winter shoal]

But bro they're nerfing Arctic Assault by 20% bro frost is kill it's joever

Nevermind the fact that it was only like 5% of their damage

[midnight kite]

they must nerf fury till we go full AoE on Rash and its balanced

[south kayak]

apparently you can't do that giga burst you saw anymore Linccy

[verbal rivet]

Or they get big soul reaper now

[south kayak]

from ele

[fading sky]

Can we just aura buff fury plz

[verbal rivet]

Boutta just reroll balance Druid and say it’s for the raid buff

[fading sky]

And buff ms on arms

[next ruin]

does it work for slayer

[livid marsh]

probably not, i dont think slayer buffs bt damage

[gilded pawn]

dropping OF is pretty troll

especially for slayer

[fading sky]

Dropping of for thane

Aint bad

[winter shoal]

fierce followthrough does a bit

[midnight kite]

I would maby drop OF if I dident have muscle memory of using it for enrage

[feral ivy]

... atm i might get dropped from mythic raid lol there is 2 warriors 1 tank and 1 dps (im dps) they wont need me anymore soon

[fading sky]

Vc + thane dmg is prob not.bad at all

Fury is good on prog

For jobs

Still good at add killin

[tidal kindle]

Fury is sick as fuck

Till you look at damage output

[fading sky]

Yeye

[livid marsh]

i use vc because i mostly do m+ and the extra added st is nice during execute

[tidal kindle]

In anything not rash or broodtwister

[fading sky]

Decent last as well??

Silken court u can go arms?

[midnight kite]

I love on broodtwister when the frost DK is deleting adds like I do but also leading boss damage

[tidal kindle]

After .5, idk

[fading sky]

Dk things🤣

[ornate gust]

i feel sorry for ouself.. blizzard nerfed us so hard

[midnight kite]

also while they top damage on the actually important add, spiders

[tidal kindle]

🙂

[midnight kite]

That said I respect our single shadow priest whos job is "just kill worms please" and hes like "sure thing boss"

[fading sky]

Tbh i dont mind em being better. Its mainly that the gap is so big now

[eager thorn]

got a good rash parse on reclear no longer a blue log gamer pog

[fading sky]

Like furya niches was dele adds silly fast since df..

[verbal rivet]

Bro they remember the last 3 expansions. They are happy to be there

[tidal kindle]

Dont think its retroactive

[quiet geyser]

Well before DF.

[eager thorn]

ye it'll prob get shit again on reset

but for now its chill

[fading sky]

True sl as well

[hard widget]

Can we namechange the discord to the Magehold?

[fading sky]

Dno why they have to destroy our niche wihout compensation

[eager thorn]

is there a way to see the original rash logs or was the add removal retroactive

[rugged hill]

We do get compensation, bloodthirst and raging blow damage increased :D

[hard widget]

U can click filtered dmg

[wheat estuary]

How is there no frost nerfs lmao

[rugged hill]

:DDDD

[mossy fox]

why magehold

[hard widget]

U guys are dooming! We're op in Delves bro

[midnight kite]

DK will get nerfed when theres an MDI

[eager thorn]

true guess i'll just find someone in mt build ty

[mossy fox]

gripcake is ramping

[hard widget]

Bro

Im seriously debating to reroll

[eager thorn]

holy fuck

[hard widget]

Only reason i havent rerolled yet is because i dont have a team

So im just gonna be stuck at the same keylevels on another class

[heavy folio]

which one on ovinax?

[eager thorn]

stay as fury jeventes

so i can steal tips from ur vids

[arctic sinew]

yeah but you'll be stuck with higher dps

[mossy fox]

brutal

[winter shoal]

Have you ever played dk in delves brother

[arctic sinew]

Is frost actually fun? Might lvl one aswell tbh

[verbal rivet]

Who else is dusting off the DK alt after seeing this

[winter shoal]

At least I have details

[winter shoal]

It's fun until you run out of runes and RP and have to just stand there and think about your bad decisions for 4 seconds

[fading sky]

Ret or dk if i had time

[midnight kite]

Edit the Icons into Ret and Frost

[coarse moon]

What would you reroll to?

[serene vessel]

Dk

Dk is never bad

[verbal rivet]

If you reroll to ret. You’re actually a sell out

[serene vessel]

You'll always have 1 good spec

[coarse moon]

Ret is so boring though...

[forest owl]

did adds on rash become part of logs again?

[hard widget]

i did play dk for a bit

And its broken

[midnight kite]

DK is actually usually kinda ass for prog but then picks up in farm

not this tier ofc

[hard widget]

Probably dk or smth

[verbal rivet]

Apparently I’ve had generational hatred of ret for like 7 years.

[winter shoal]

Next reset there's a new partition with adds (I think just spiders, not webbed victims) included again

[verbal rivet]

Didn’t even fully realize it

[fading sky]

Played some ret last season

Was quite fun and laid back

As an alt

As a main id say dk

[eager thorn]

felt

[coarse moon]

Would it be a big concern rerolling this late? (E.g., missed vault gear)

[south kayak]

Ret is boring as hell imo

[eager thorn]

the pally parse above mine is funny

[hard widget]

Not really

[fading sky]

Nah

[verbal rivet]

You can get to 600 in a day lmao

[fading sky]

Ret is fun imho

[verbal rivet]

610 if you have help

[last pier]

So whatre you guys swapping to next tuesday?

[fading sky]

And wasy

[south kayak]

Weirdos find ret find

[fallen sedge]

jesus christ how, am I just a scrub? i am happy to pull 1.4m overall as a fury

[coarse moon]

Really? Spamming m+?

[winter shoal]

I was playing ST fury but our RL made me go aoe since our DH (who normally does adds) couldn't make it, would've been a legit top 20 log otherwise sadeg

[hard widget]

Is heavily dependent on loads of things

[eager thorn]

very unlucky

[south kayak]

No, world content and delves

No one gonna inv you to m+ with that ilvl

[eager thorn]

my rl told everyone else to go full st and me and other fury go aoe

[verbal rivet]

Some. Between crafting, PvP Gear, M+, Normal, LFR. You can get full champ gear in a day. And into heroic if you’re motivated

[midnight kite]

My alt got to 600 just gearing pvp in a day (the secondarys are kinda messy though)

[eager thorn]

gonna have to start taking turns for parses

[winter shoal]

We normally have our 2 ww and DH do adds, tried with just the ww and it wasn't cutting it so here we are

Unfort

[verbal rivet]

Especially on TW weeks

Free Hero Pieces go crazy

[fallen sedge]

yeah like wiping etc, I was almost 2m overall for the first half of a +10 DB then the second lieutenant happened and we kept chain wiping :c I think I just need to die less