just felt like our two DH were getting the add damage in before i could
#fury
eternal sundial
just felt like our two DH were getting the add damage in before i could
That means ur not doing it right
thick fossil
Dots lose value when stuff falls over fast.
eternal sundial
Ngl
But also killtime and shit matters
You ideally want a large grp size with good bossdam and low pad
So you get most of the add HP
next ruin
That's not how wow makes money
thick fossil
Tldr, someone is stealing your raid purpose.
thick fossil
If the boss is on farm, you will see more ppl run aoe.
fast mural
Thats when you start going for boss dam parses
supple heath
yeah thats pretty much whats happened i think
junior dock
is fierce followthrough worth using now ?
verbal rivet
I was the only fury last night, actually enjoyed the raid lmao
tacit abyss
just felt like our two DH were getting the add damage in before i could
If you do it stop using roar on adds, just snipe them with avatar/odyns + roation or odyns+bladestorm imediately.
feral acorn
did some1 have shadowmourne effect weakaura maybe to send, when wepon proc to get that effect
solemn plover
hello???
queen linden
Hot take (mild at best). They better keep delve gear capped at hero track. I'm enjoying not having to run the content anymore.
barren coral
you'd rather run 8 m+ than 8 delves?
restive narwhal
Delves are awfull boring. They are NOT GOOD.
queen linden
For sure lol
Delves are shit. They were fun week 1 when they were mildly challenging, now they're brain dead
unreal pewter
And running same m+ dungeon is somewhat fun?
next ruin
Delves could be really fun but those time gated breath/light stuff are so boring
Can't they just put a timer fr
queen linden
And running same m+ dungeon is somewhat fun?
At least I need some brain function running m+. I'm not subbing for loot pinata content like delves.
unreal pewter
They could make delves more interesting if they have for example 2 bosses with actual mechanics
barren coral
delves are cool but they feel meaningless besides being alt gearing
unreal pewter
like put zekvir-like boss at the end and bosses they have now in the middle
barren coral
if it had a mount and a decent gold farm they woudlve been cool forever
unreal pewter
It's a decent start for a new feature
queen linden
if it had a mount and a decent gold farm they woudlve been cool forever
So, tourghast?
The goat
night relic
Delves could be really fun but those time gated breath/light stuff are so boring...
noggenfogger
barren coral
im so mad i wanted to "prog" instead of making millions farming tinderboxes
thinking the farm will always be there
queen linden
Once blizzard catches wind how much money you make in delves, they'll nerf it.
unreal pewter
Delves are god send game mode for gamerdads ;_;
queen linden
Delves are probably great for a vast majority of the player base, but my original comment still stands. I'm happy they capped the gear at hero track. I hope they don't put myth track in there somehow.
I'm happy to have out geared the need to run delves.
sand crest
I wish there was a key level where you could get myth track end of dungeon though, gearing up is so slow if you dont mythic raid
sand crest
the cap on crests is also too low imo
queen linden
Gotta keep you subbed š
iron portal
Delves are god send game mode for gamerdads ;_;
God the bar is really low isnt it
sand crest
even mythic raiders arent full geared in two weeks (except those being funneled gear)
dont think putting myth track end of dungeon at +12 and above would drastically change the pace of gearing but it would at least be there as an option
next ruin
Delves should be Diablo like content
Instead we got some swimming simulator with some oxygen to track. Prolly same devs as war devs
sand crest
for those who dont raid
queen linden
Having all myth gear is useless if you can't upgrade it. If you're really wanting to gear faster, then having more than 90 crests a week would accomplish that.
iron portal
Cap on crests at current version is def crippling
unreal onyx
even mythic raiders arent full geared in two weeks (except those being funneled ...
Define āfull gearedā
barren coral
I wish there was a key level where you could get myth track end of dungeon thoug...
pretty sure its on purpose
so raiding will always be the "main" pve activity
unreal pewter
I too don't think myth gear from delves is a good idea but at least let me upgrade hero gear to max doing delves
sand crest
Define āfull gearedā
myth track in every slot
queen linden
myth track in every slot
What's the point tho? lol you dont have enough crest to upgrade them
eternal sundial
What's the point tho? lol you dont have enough crest to upgrade them
Highest base ilvl
gleaming siren
The pace of acquiring myth gear and upgrading it being slowed down is clearly on purpose
iron portal
Im full geared when i am in champion gear too but i wouldnt use that argument
sand crest
it obviously is on purpose I just wish it wasnt the case
eternal sundial
The pace of acquiring myth gear and upgrading it being slowed down is clearly on...
You could argue aquiring more myth track outside of raid is a bit aids cuz HC is so weak
But just raid
unreal onyx
Wouldnāt make sense to be able to be full bis max ilvl in week 3
queen linden
Okay, so you aren't mythic raiding, why do you need all myth gear? Are you running 14's?
barren coral
realistically, myth track is reserved for mythic raiding and thats it
aint no hardcore pve player gearing his mythic items through m+ vault
iron portal
They def can try
queen linden
The gear is relative to the content you are doing. If you're running the highest level content, you generally will have the highest level gear. Are you just wanting myth track gear so you can run 8s quicker?
unreal onyx
Most raids also have bis trinkets that can only get aquired when raiding
queen linden
Most raids also have bis trinkets that can only get aquired when raiding
Most of the raid trinkets that are bis are still solid even on LFR
barren coral
The gear is relative to the content you are doing. If you're running the highest...
sure but they clearly gated m+ here despite being very difficult +12 and up, because they want mythic raiding to be the most important pve activity in the game
unreal pewter
and it sshould stay like that
barren coral
id say first 2 bosses for example are clearly easier than a timed +12
unreal onyx
Did you do both first myth bosses?
barren coral
yes
gleaming siren
You could argue aquiring more myth track outside of raid is a bit aids cuz HC is...
Idk where this "HC is weak" comes from
Myth is better HC is not weaker
unreal onyx
A timed 12 has a wildly different difficulty depending on the key
queen linden
You can clear 2 mythic bosses every week with a pug in discord
but I think a completed 10 is easier if you're trying to get a myth piece every week
eternal sundial
Idk where this "HC is weak" comes from
I meant in comparison, HC shit was clearly enough for the giga gamers to clear
They ended at whah like 627?
barren coral
ofc but its up to the player if he wants to struggle on GB or MoTS
unreal onyx
Then ppl will spam the āfreeā key as much as they want
barren coral
i think something like a % chance to get myth track, with a weekly limit on how many you can get from +12 and up
would be reasonable if they wanted to respect m+ as much as myth raiding
eternal sundial
That sounds aids
unreal onyx
Whereas you only can kill 2 specific bosses
unreal onyx
I love even more rng in my loot
eternal sundial
Gearing is almost ok if we had crest catchup
If you are behind whatever last weeks cap is
queen linden
Gearing is almost ok if we had crest catchup
Just run the content?
smoky vale
not enough
eternal sundial
There is catchup
I mean keys dropping more
wheat estuary
And itās cheaper to upgrade on alts
pale lava
Gearing is almost ok if we had crest catchup
remove valorstones
wheat estuary
Cheaper on alts is basically the same
smoky vale
yeah i still have to run over 50 keys to catch up
pale lava
keep crests
queen linden
And itās cheaper to upgrade on alts
This is the best addition they've added to the game.
eternal sundial
remove valorstones
Also real
unreal onyx
Have 12+ keys drop some currency that you can exchange for myth raid items, kinda like bullions to balance between high m+ and myth raiding (should take a long time to get one piece tho)
queen linden
Valorstones mattered the first 2 weeks lol
smoky vale
gear should just be vendor so i can pull with any 80 and crank
queen linden
When you were getting new pieces left and right
pale lava
I was gonna play an alt but then valorstones
queen linden
Enjoy the discount l ol
coarse nest
Have 12+ keys drop some currency that you can exchange for myth raid items, kind...
Half a piece worth of this currency per week
eternal sundial
I was gonna play an alt but then valorstones
Even on main im struggling all my funds are gone from weapon
And i cant play all day
smoky vale
^
barren coral
how tf can you hate on myth track being a % chance +12 and up
unreal onyx
I can see why valorstones matter in the early season, but they should just remove them mid-season
barren coral
when m+ gear is not guaranteed in the first place
eternal sundial
how tf can you hate on myth track being a % chance +12 and up
Cuz its rng gearing
queen linden
how tf can you hate on myth track being a % chance +12 and up
Because I have no crests to upgrade that gear lul
pale lava
Even on main im struggling all my funds are gone from weapon
yeah it can get really rough on main too
left elk
There is the valorstone and crest discount for your account tho
smoky vale
its not enough
left elk
Crest achieves give 33% discount for alts XD
pale lava
There is the valorstone and crest discount for your account tho
not enough, I understand having to farm crests but valorstones on top is too much
wheat estuary
M+ should be an alternative to myth raiding
unreal onyx
Love being fury, needing like 3.5k stones to upgrade weapons
tulip orchid
does anyone know in raids if there is a way to see if ppl are locked?
queen linden
If you're complaining that gearing up alts is a pain then you're gearing up your alt wrong lol
left elk
not enough, I understand having to farm crests but valorstones on top is too muc...
You can get hundreds if you do a few world quests
unreal pewter
Why do Valorstones even exist?
pale lava
If you're complaining that gearing up alts is a pain then you're gearing up your...
we're complaining about having to grind too many valorstones
pale lava
You can get hundreds if you do a few world quests
barely enough for meaningful upgrades
smoky vale
im full hc gear on my alt and i dont want to have to do 40 keys before its playable
its not fun
pale lava
or are you forgetting that you need an insane amount of them rn
pale lava
Why do Valorstones even exist?
no idea because they serve no purpose besides making you have to grind more runs
I don't mind having to grind the crests though
queen linden
These are all systems to stretch the season out as long as possible.
unreal pewter
At start you have no Valorstones but as you getting gated by crasts, you suddenly spike up to Valorstone cap
pale lava
These are all systems to stretch the season out as long as possible.
valorstones aren't timegated
so they aren't stretching anything out
coarse nest
Valorstones are way to annoying to farm
queen linden
So you want a speedy valorstone for ilvl 580-619
warm crag
i think something like a % chance to get myth track, with a weekly limit on how ...
rip titanforging 2020 welcome back titanforging 2024
pale lava
I get why crests are timegated because it allows you to cap your crests for the week then relax if you want to
coarse nest
Yes
unreal pewter
TBH "Crests" are more or less Emblems that upgrade your gear and Valorstones are there just to piss you off sometimes
queen linden
Valorstones are only an issue for alts that you don't want to run content on
eternal sundial
It's finally time to spam +2s cuz it's uncapped so i can upgrade different rings yippie
pale lava
amazing system
inner shadow
is itnext week that we get 1 silk?
smoky vale
what is a silk
inner shadow
@warm crag wdy say should i spend millie and buy boots/head ? and then use silk to transform ionto set
queen linden
cata charge
inner shadow
the catalyst
pale lava
is itnext week that we get 1 silk?
yes
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> wdy say should i spend millie and buy boots/head ? and th...
idk its your gold
unreal pewter
yes, next week every alt have 4 set
pale lava
<@164800371057754112> wdy say should i spend millie and buy boots/head ? and th...
tier set helm isn't that great for us though
inner shadow
for ilvl ig
warm crag
helm is fine
inner shadow
no i know that
eternal sundial
Boots are good stats IIRC
queen linden
warm crag
glove is the worst statted piece imo but it really doesnt matter
inner shadow
should i buy helm and boots or only boots?
pale lava
so up to you if the gold is worth it or not
queen linden
Helm you want instead of tier
inner shadow
its 639
unreal onyx
Helm you want instead of tier
Subjective
queen linden
Either that or Visor
whole hollow
simming its telling me to use treacherous transmitter and mark of khardos
is simming in accurate with on use trinkets?
warm crag
you can also just drop tier helmet and equip the raid gloves with big mast
unreal onyx
Either that or Visor
Or boe helm, or nw helm
smoky vale
is simming in accurate with on use trinkets?
yes
unreal onyx
Depends on your other gear
whole hollow
i have ara kara
warm crag
is simming in accurate with on use trinkets?
ye it should be you can check the quick sim and see what the sim does with the trinkets
unreal onyx
I think the ābis listā from wowhead has nw helm as bishop
warm crag
I think the ābis listā from wowhead has nw helm as bishop
doesnt that helmet have the same stats as the tier piece
unreal onyx
Im not sure
warm crag
like the bis list is full fake
unreal onyx
Yes
queen linden
like the bis list is full fake
this
inner shadow
it has reserved
warm crag
just equip what you get instead of making decisions about a list dreamt up by the silly
inner shadow
kekw
unreal onyx
Bis list is best simming gear at max ilvl afaik
Simming your char is 100% always the best option
smoky vale
just equip what you get instead of making decisions about a list dreamt up by th...
no i need someone to make all gearjng choices for me and play for me as well
coarse nest
Bot angle innit
eternal sundial
Bis list is best simming gear at max ilvl afaik
Dont even think so
unreal onyx
Thats why I donāt want transmitter 
queen linden
Transmitter bis thooooo
coarse nest
Me either
queen linden
You don't like jumping?
unreal onyx
I have sacbrood and shard and I feel pretty good with it
warm crag
I have sacbrood and shard and I feel pretty good with it
low dps male
coarse nest
Donāt want to have to listen to a WA solve mini game and then get trinket buff
AND itās casted
chilly sapphire
getting transmitter through pugs is not easy tho
coarse nest
Forget it
warm crag
its not casted what
chilly sapphire
every needs everything regardless so rough life
warm crag
its instant cast
queen linden
AND itās casted
kekw
eternal sundial
I have sacbrood and shard and I feel pretty good with it
Low T opinion
coarse nest
Sounds better if you make shit up yaknow
queen linden
Im a gigachad. I pop transmitter on brood.
Now do I always get the buff? fuck no.
unreal onyx
Say what you want, I will always prefer the equip and forget trinkets
warm crag
I run myth shard on brood
correct
now equip treach with it
you will deal damage š
queen linden
I run myth shard on brood
run both???
unreal onyx
2 on-use? Oh hell nah
warm crag
yes you press cds every 45 seconds on ovinax
smoky vale
why do you refuse to do damage
queen linden
You're trolling if you aren't using double on use for brood
queen linden
This is peak trinket. Just accept it (Fucker won't drop on heroic 
)
lusty plinth
hey guys, is zakvir ?? soloable as fury ?
queen linden
Yes
coarse nest
hey guys, is zakvir ?? soloable as fury ?
Yes I did hardest tier at 626 ilvl
Took a bit of prog but you can learn it
Basically focus the egg every time and kick the heals
lusty plinth
the lowest I got it to was 20%
coarse nest
Other than that dodge stuff
queen linden
Yes I did hardest tier at 626 ilvl
Can be down with waaaaaay lower ilvl, but he's easy
lusty plinth
how did you deal with the debuff that slows you ?
inner shadow
This is peak trinket. Just accept it (Fucker won't drop on heroic <:sadge:82020...
i bought it for 300k yesterday
eternal sundial
how did you deal with the debuff that slows you ?
Charge it
queen linden
how did you deal with the debuff that slows you ?
Run out and charge
coarse nest
Can be down with waaaaaay lower ilvl, but he's easy
For sure just giving a reference point
eternal sundial
inner shadow
one question for wepapon
enchant depths on main hand and off hand
or 1 depths and 1 radiant?
lusty plinth
if you charge you dont get the debuf applied ?
eternal sundial
(Slayer relentless persuit)
eternal sundial
one question for wepapon
enchant depths on main hand and off hand
or 1 depths ...
2 depths is better for st
And fuck swapping enchants
queen linden
if you charge you dont get the debuf applied ?
When he's casting the spell, run out, the second you get the debuff, charge him.
warm crag
And fuck swapping enchants
what do i play on queen ansurek mythic
can you do the prep for me please
quiet geyser
Sorry went to bed, but no it wasn't Dslice. Mind you i have a 636 vers/mastery and 626 high master brood ring. But ya the poison proc simmed 20k lower lol
coarse nest
Iād play fury
oblique thistle
how did you deal with the debuff that slows you ?
Play slayer, if you charge you can clear the debuff
Bladestorm also cleanses the debuff and makes you immune so you can hold storms for when it's coming next
Brann on healer can cleanse you too
coarse nest
Definitely play fury
eternal sundial
can you do the prep for me please
Play spongeuwu sub rogue
CD on adds at all points
lusty plinth
damn Ive been doing it with mountain lmao
eternal sundial
Zero bossdam
inner shadow
2 depths is better for st
i rarely play ST Xd
lusty plinth
no fucking way
eternal sundial
i rarely play ST Xd
Raid has st
lusty plinth
Im doing this rn
eternal sundial
Key has st
eternal sundial
All keys
warm crag
Play spongeuwu sub rogue
i will not do this
eternal sundial
Hallo?
eternal sundial
Dungeon boss
inner shadow
ye true
eternal sundial
And the higher your keys go
smoky vale
phil are you still at work
eternal sundial
The more bosses dying helps
smoky vale
eternal sundial
No
smoky vale
want to watch me play sts :3
eternal sundial
Not rlly
I only watch j4ckie, xecnar and maybe some lavableman as far as sts goes
But they all stream during work
smoky vale
smoky vale
holy
still zealot
Is anything changing in terms of talent builds for 11.0.5 when they take us out back and give us the Ol' Yeller treatment? Will Odyn's Fury and Thunderous Roar still be worthwhile for keys?
next ruin
Is anything changing in terms of talent builds for 11.0.5 when they take us out ...
It'll be updated soon, for now they keep edging us
kindred hearth
Got a 616 Writhing Ringworm with Leech on it outta the 4/4 dungeon weekly.. that was pretty dope
queen linden
frigid zealot
Is anything changing in terms of talent builds for 11.0.5 when they take us out ...
Odyns and roar will likely be the same as they are in value in keys
Its not often you really pull high target counts where its going to matter much
coarse nest
You know whatās cool is the 5T 1.5m sim doesnāt change with the soft cap changes
eager thorn
You know whatās cool is the 5T 1.5m sim doesnāt change with the soft cap changes
Fury is saved
next ruin
Odyns and roar will likely be the same as they are in value in keys
It doesn't matter if X stays the same value if Y, Z, Z' talents go up in value, since the total amount of talents you can pick stays the same
Some talents might then have more value than the OF
frigid zealot
Odyns will still be meta in slayer
It was already average in thane even before rb/bt buffs and the odyns nerf
next ruin
I don't predict future, but we have like 3-4 days to wait. Let's not be narrow minded, I think we'll take every % of damage we can get
And of has been meta for so many years, things have to change also
river reef
Xecnar recently got the new rotation wr <:gladge:963970137701109820>
dont slave me to delves today
slim pollen
And of has been meta for so many years, things have to change also
"... for so many years"
Ahh, yes, the good old days of dragonflight. It was so many moons ago! š
next ruin
They added the spell in legion
eternal sundial
dont slave me to delves today
yes
river reef
slim pollen
They added the spell in legion
And removed it with end of legion, and re-added at the start of DF
next ruin
And you're happy when the novelty of your class is a one button aoe from 7 years ago
next ruin
come up with better things and share them in the forums
If I have any battle pet suggestion I will, that's what brings money
sick jungle
guys, i got a buttload of gilded to earn and spend still, but I only have 1 myth track item left thats not 639 and they're boots
should I drop my gilded on it to 639 or should I just start upgrading bigger pieces
even though they're not myth track
eternal sundial
sim it
sick jungle
I'm just thinking of saving crests
or is it not that important anymore this far into the season
next ruin
Keep them for s2 just in case
slim pollen
Personaly i would upgrade the myth track, at least they aren't "wasted". Other pieces you might be able to save crests on in the vault or something later.
#napkinlogic
You'll get more crests every week either way š
sick jungle
true, i was thinking of it too in the sense of upgrading the bigger slots first, or if thats not even that important
slim pollen
It could give a bigger boost right now/short term, but that's a sim thing yeh.
bitter palm
come up with better things and share them in the forums
remove martial prowess
buff ms cleave
welcome back battlelord
we missed you
bitter palm
no such thing as wrong place in skyhold
fading sky
But ye mp if not removed halfed in value!
next ruin
But idk it's almost 2025 and their big innovation for your class is a sword strike with no animation... Might aswell get rid of it, what's the difference with pressing whirlwind, even the latter feels better
fading sky
Fury plays well
fading sky
I mean some multiplier is fun
fading sky
Blord sucks coz they nerfed it
fading sky
Blord sucks coz it used to do way moreš
bitter palm
it did what it shouldnt have
and thats buff op by 35%
random ahh part of the talent
next ruin
Look at rogue CDs and rogue interactions with their talent and gameplay changes
The evolution of outlaw since legion, and the evolution of fury
They're pissing on fury let's be real
red peak
It's still very fun. I dunno what they can add without subtracting from us. Maybe if they change how slayer interacts with execute to give us frost DK like proc management
fading sky
I mean, slayer was just a bad idea
normal bane
is there a list of whats changing for tuesday
fading sky
Or well, giving fury so much burst aoe thats frontloaded. Was bound to cause major issues
next ruin
Make abilities look better, like why nerfing warbRINGER animation? It's just dumb. Get up to date with today standards instead of having daoc animations
fading sky
Dno what content u play where u got the time to truly notice thatš , but ye ret has better feedback feel than war
burnt kelp
I dont know the lack of screen vomit is one of arms' few redeeming qualities
red peak
Not even noticing when you do slayers strike etc is a bit off-putting
burnt kelp
Did city of threads with frost dk+retoilet paladin
Couldnt see shit
Just blue and yellow explosions in melee 24/7
red peak
Yeah lol woosh woosh
next ruin
Did city of threads with frost dk+retoilet paladin
Well you put others abilities to lower density, you only keep yours
fading sky
Well you put others abilities to lower density, you only keep yours
Facts
next ruin
But yea ask them to delete every animation from the game if it's only distracting vomit š¤·
next ruin
Fact is, most class are getting into 2024, but fury mostly look 2010
And they completed broke arms
lethal onyx
People need to chill the f*** out in mythic.
I decided to do a mythic zero arakara and even put in the group finder chill group no timer.
F****** tank is going slow. Pulling one pack at a time because this is the first mythic he's done. Everyone else is fine. Healer freaking out on him for going slow like honestly man there's no timer. It's m0 chill the f*** out.
Like I can understand being upset at like plus 7:00 someone's going slow but m0 which has no timer like come on man. No need to be like that
radiant plank
People need to chill the f*** out in mythic.
I decided to do a mythic zero arakara and even put in the group finder chill group no timer.
F****** tank is going slow. Pulling one pack at a time because this is the first mythic he's done. Everyone else is fine. Healer freaking out on him for going slow like honestly man there's no timer. It's m0 chill the f*** out.
chrome plover
People need to chill the f*** out in mythic.
I decided to do a mythic zero arakara and even put in the group finder chill group no timer.
F****** tank is going slow. Pulling one pack at a time because this is the first mythic he's done. Everyone else is fine. Healer freaking out on him for going slow like honestly man there's no timer. It's m0 chill the f*** out.
modest condor
new copypasta just dropped
lusty plinth
thank you for the help guys 
tribal siren
cg, welcome in club š
fading sky
Fact is, most class are getting into 2024, but fury mostly look 2010
Warrior is for veteran players. ( vets of pain) we like 2010 animations
New players play the good classes
burnt kelp
Personally I like 2010 gameplay
next ruin
I'm OK with simple gameplay, but if your cd could at least look strong even if it isnt
Like monks
And monks are played by old people mostly
eternal sundial
@river reef delve
warm crag
People need to chill the f out in mythic.
I decided to do a mythic zero arakara and even put in the group finder chill group no timer.
F** tank is going slow. Pulling one pack at a time because this is the first mythic he's done. Everyone else is fine. Healer freaking out on him for going slow like honestly man there's no timer. It's m0 chill the f** out.
Like I can understand being upset at like plus 7:00 someone's going slow but m0 which has no timer like come on man. No need to be like that
plucky ice
iron portal
thank you for the help guys <:gladge:963970137701109820>
I got blinded by pic
plucky ice
bro plays with 200% brightness
warm crag
<@164800371057754112>
glad coyote
People need to chill the f out in mythic.
I decided to do a mythic zero arakar...
i find keys at the lower level more toxic than keys at high level after the start of the season
left elk
^
lethal onyx
Lol.
Just came back to see that. That's pretty funny guys made me laugh.
The funniest part of the whole situation was we didn't even bother to look for another healer that he balanced. Drew had just swapped to Restoration and then we four-manned the dungeon.
lusty plinth
I got blinded by pic
Idk why whenever I take a screenshot is so blind
narrow narwhal
It's probably HDR
crisp bronze
I've found tanks being biggest offenders of toxicity in lower keys
mossy fox
on
oblique trail
imminent hosen combustion
mossy fox
š³
barren coral
I've found tanks being biggest offenders of toxicity in lower keys
bc theyre not tank mains, just manchildren who know if you say anything they can brick the key by leaving since theyre a high demand role
eager thorn
Pretty sure most ppl leaving a key can brick it
Not sure thats a tank power trip thing
barren coral
brick as in impossible to do, not untimed
oblique trail
Or you just wall out of the dungeon and respec to tank and finish it as 4 people š
bitter palm
hoooly based
or just thug it out
beat it eventually
@eternal sundial am i right
grim batol incident
bitter palm
Or you just wall out of the dungeon and respec to tank and finish it as 4 people...
can just go clappa
same as going tank
eager thorn
or just thug it out
I had a warlock called weegaveup leave a key on last boss of ara kara
We decided to just kill it with 2 dps 
barren coral
Or you just wall out of the dungeon and respec to tank and finish it as 4 people...
what an insightful idea š
eager thorn
I mean it is a good idea
eager thorn
You said its impossible to finish a key if tank leaves
This makes it not impossible?
Especially considering the original point was low keys, feel like at my ilvl i could ez go tank with no experience and survive a boss
oblique trail
I mention it for I've already had the pleasure of meeting an unreasonable pug tank who chain died on last boss of Arakara, to the point of him just leaving the key
Where I then just zoned out and swapped to tank to finish the key
barren coral
based ngl
eager thorn
Chad
The leap out tech on last boss has been life changing honestly cos i hated that dude before
eternal sundial
<@653287531038900236> am i right
Real
chilly fractal
Blizzard should add Merciless Bonegrinder to Slayerā¦ #showerthoughts
mossy fox
I mention it for I've already had the pleasure of meeting an unreasonable pug ta...
tanking is often the best way to protect your mental in pugs
oblique trail
Perhaps, but I simply just don't enjoy tanking as Prot at all
So it's either I play with unreasonable pug tanks, or just have no fun
Essentially the same thing at the end of the day
mossy fox
the latter sounds more fun
eternal sundial
I hate tanking content without being max ilvl and overpulling
oblique trail
Only spec I've enjoyed tanking on in recent time was VDH in S3 when it was broken
eager thorn
I enjoyed prot in classic cata for a week
mossy fox
i did the double maze pull with 3x guardians yesterday on pwar
i was wondering why i was taking so much damage but i rewatched it and toggled battlestance at the start of the pull and didnt realise until after xd
oblique trail
Think the best defensive move you can do as prot warrior is just remove your stance macro
mighty apex
silly question but can i craft and equip 2 x charge claymores? instead of farming an OH wild hammer?
eager thorn
You can but shouldnt
oblique trail
silly question but can i craft and equip 2 x charge claymores? instead of farmin...
Yes, they're not unique equipped
mossy fox
ya at this point there isnt much point in going dps stance
eager thorn
Myth tier wep levels higher so assuming youāll get one eventually its an upgrade over 2 crafted
normal bane
had a dh tank die first global on the firy pull of stonevault, say no heals, then left
oblique trail
But as Mud said, you shouldn't really spend your sparks on it, nor crests, and instead just craft 1 weapon and farm out another one from M+
eager thorn
Iām more fine with 1 pull and leave over halfway through the dg tbh
mossy fox
had a dh tank die first global on the firy pull of stonevault, say no heals, the...
tank deaths can rarely be blamed on healer tbh
it's either bad tank play or lack of stops, or both
eager thorn
I think tanks prob just get the most shit cos its obvious if they die or mess up, meanwhile dps can die like 4 times n be chill
normal bane
especially when you die in the first .5 seconds of the pull
eternal sundial
I think tanks prob just get the most shit cos its obvious if they die or mess up...
Not rlly with new timer
Clown deaths cost a lot
mossy fox
death affix sucks
normal bane
all the affixes kinda suck, but the death one is the worst
nothing like orbs during shit parts of boss fights
tender seal
normal bane
does it still happen during the dark phase in grim batol where you have a small circle
then a bunch of orbs flying through the dark shit that you can't see, not that you could grab them anyway
eager thorn
Not rlly with new timer
Yea once you start pushing its a lot worse
But some dgs you can still have someone die a few times and have it be np
15s deaths just suck though
noble elm
Itās exceptionally hard to die as pwar unless you just scuff everything or make a bad pull
normal bane
spell reflect and spell block are both incredibly broken
eager thorn
does it still happen during the dark phase in grim batol where you have a small ...
Probably, happens on 2nd boss of ara kara with the swarm circle
noble elm
Only way you can really die is if you donāt put up shield block or just stand in shit for prolonged periods
pearl crypt
anyone else has an issue with rampage not procing bloodbath?
oblique trail
It doesn't if you get parried
pearl crypt
and that's only for bloodbath?
cuz crushing blow does
happens with thane during high haste
oblique trail
hm
pearl crypt
like during lust
hasty tide
I've been trying to farm a shield now to practice tanking in pugs. Currently at like 40 dungeons in prot spec without a drop
oblique trail
And the Unhinged from Ravager consumes the BB
oblique trail
You're just using Rampage right before the Ravager Unhinged tick happens
So it looks like you don't get any
pearl crypt
yes yes ur right
eager thorn
Ye
eternal sundial
spamming ramp > CB during ravager is correct right
Yuh
Tmy shared a good wa for ravager ticks
sand crest
cool cause doing that felt intuitive
eternal sundial
In the addon section of his disc
eager thorn
Tmy shared a good wa for ravager ticks
Is it worth trying to track unhinged procs?
warm crag
for thane probably ye
boreal spire
Rashanan anyone leap off the platform and drag the other tethered people with them? Trying to figure out what exactly I did to kill 4 people
honest karma
Welp blizz got what they wanted with the fury nerfs
queen linden
Rashanan anyone leap off the platform and drag the other tethered people with th...
Got a log?
boreal spire
Yeah Warcraft logs down atm will add it when back up
queen linden
So you jumped and killed the other people you were tethered with?
Or just random people
sick jungle
is wcl down
queen linden
is wcl down
yes
sick jungle
k so not just me
queen linden
is wcl down
back up now
boreal spire
Leap to safe spot to drop the webs, flew through the platform and dragged everyone with me, was not aware the tether could do this
sick jungle
back up now
ty
pearl crypt
am i missing something or is sacbrood mediocre in dungeon slice?
queen linden
Leap to safe spot to drop the webs, flew through the platform and dragged everyo...
gogo log
queen linden
Man, that DH went flying
modest meadow
who makes APL default for Simcraft?
I'm talking about this: https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/warrior_fury.simc
radiant plank
a bunch of people
queen linden
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QmyZRJ9TgdxFhDaY#fight=3&type=deaths
Idk. Im not seeing this leap and killing 4 people. Looks like you and the DH dropped your webs on top of each other, killing you both.
and the holy pally got taken out with that overlap as well.
willow cradle
The replay feature on WCL isn't always the best to see positioning, I've seen a few discrepancies with it and vods
queen linden
Well, also taking 7m damage in a 3 second window probably didn't help.
violet moss
wHy DoEs OnE HaNdEd WeApoNs DroP foR FurY WhEn ThEy aRe fKkiN UseLeSs 
gleaming siren
So it's either I play with unreasonable pug tanks, or just have no fun
Let me tank your key
acoustic anchor
wHy DoEs OnE HaNdEd WeApoNs DroP foR FurY WhEn ThEy aRe fKkiN UseLeSs <a:LETSGOO...
Looks like someone opened the vault with fury spec enabled
violet moss
Looks like someone opened the vault with fury spec enabled
what, u not supposed 2?
gay fking game
acoustic anchor
Nah u put it on arms so if you get a weapon its guaranteed 2h
violet moss
oblique trail
Let me tank your key
Idk if I'm deserving of Schimidsmash tanking my keys
gleaming siren
Idk if I'm deserving of Schimidsmash tanking my keys
Do you raid tonight
Overtime andy
gleaming siren
gg
acoustic anchor
https://tenor.com/view/shoot-myself-gif-14944287
Everyone made that mistake atleast once š¤·āāļø
Just dont let it happen again
half cargo
frigid temple
Guys....im hard stuck 97 parses on heroic.... am I washed?
eager thorn
Yes may as well reroll now
frigid temple
enhance prison it is.....
forest owl
it's ok im sure they will nerf enh as quickly as they did fury
still wave
Always have frost dk then
hollow leaf
ngl I kinda prefer slayer
weary sail
Then play slayer
hollow leaf
playstyle of reap the storm and the cdr on bladestorm feels nicer
hollow leaf
Then play slayer
I did, and I do
oak garden
One Question for the Upcoming RB and BT buffs does it effect the DMg from the empowered indirect because the empowered Spells does increased dmg of the normal dmg? (so if the normal Spells get the dmg buff does it mean the empowered is also slightly increased?) sry for my bad english
hollow leaf
Yes, any damage buff to RB or BT also buffs CB and BB
barren coral
no
weary sail
No
obtuse palm
No
weary sail
That is not true
forest owl
nein
hollow leaf
Is it not?
weary sail
Dont spread fake news LOL
full bison
they are different spells
barren coral
bro thought we're getting a real buff
nimble ermine
they specifically say it doesnt buff cb and bb
full bison
its meant to make AM more comparable to RA
barren coral
Yes, any damage buff to RB or BT also buffs CB and BB
this is why our set bonus is dogshit too btw
nimble ermine
barren coral
fury gets its 100th nerf but at least we can play AM now
forest owl
imagine if CB and BB were being buffed
eager thorn
I too take others words as facts with no other research
oak garden
so its not rly any buff ^^
violet moss
just nerfs over here
frozen mirage
So what spec is best this last week for 10s? Are you grabbing Vicious Contempt or no?
forest owl
anyone have the links to patch notes due on 22nd?
eager thorn
So what spec is best this last week for 10s? Are you grabbing Vicious Contempt o...
For thane vc is <1% better than titanic rage so generally not advised since tr is smoother and easier to use
Can really use either hero talents for m+ but ive been enjoying 
verbal rivet
Ja Clappa goes crazy
marble swift
No joke my 610 ret is doing more m+ dam than my 620 clappa
Cap nerf next week too lol
I don't even have 4pc on ret
median dust
So what spec is best this last week for 10s? Are you grabbing Vicious Contempt o...
I dropped hack and slash, and TR for 2 stacks VC. It's been doing pretty well this week in 10+
forest owl
we just need to tell every tank we join a key with to pull nothing bigger than 5 mobs and we should be good
marble swift
burnt kelp
So since they turned fury's greatest strength into a weakness
Surely it means it will stop being the worst single target spec in the game
marble swift
marble swift
Idk the blizz employees that frequent this channel say we're god tier
marble swift
Yeah
They're pants on head with last two balance passes
Genuinely don't understand the philosophy
winter shoal
What do you mean buffed
New talents I think innit
verbal rivet
Genuinely don't understand the philosophy
Big number in raid, must nerf fury
marble swift
Absolutely insane devops
median dust
Don't worry guys. In Shadowlands Classic Warriors will get rework
verbal rivet
If they nerf tanks in Legion Classic, Ima be so heated
south kayak
Enhance buffed on reset btw
That is assuming there's no tuning pass this Tuesday for the next patch
marble swift
verbal rivet
Slam 25% damage buff on rampage, make AM actually good and not just the better option.
winter shoal
That is assuming there's no tuning pass this Tuesday for the next patch
Fury target cap nerfs reverted 
winter shoal
Already does
south kayak
Nah, even more than they already do lol
i tested on ptr
and believe me
it was fucking nuts
i don't sy that lightly
verbal rivet
You mean hard casting lava burst is a DPS loss??? Balanced spec design
forest owl
my guilds ele shammy is dooming for new upcoming rework, is it good or bad for them? i genuinely dont know nuffin about ele
marble swift
It's fine you'll just run prot warr ele aug DK rsham until your brain leaks out of your nose
barren coral
i need to see a 20 man shammy raid in 11.0.5
marble swift
Ele will be super Saiyan 2 tier
barren coral
top dps, top utility, no burst heals tho
marble swift
Whoever's dooming about ele is crying because their favorite flavor of ice cream cast is a different color now
But +10% throughput
verbal rivet
top dps, top utility, no burst heals tho
Fair spec. Make Wind Shear 24 sec and the spec riots
barren coral
who's dooming about ele lmao
median dust
It's fine you'll just run prot warr ele aug DK rsham until your brain leaks out ...
trick is. You have to befriend a good resto shaman. Than you just Q with him and get invited to groups. Alone? You're SOL
verbal rivet
Idk how shamans have been out of the basement this long, itās not normal
marble swift
I got a pocket rsham but he has brain damage
Any time there's a mechanic he loses his mind
runic pine
No joke my 610 ret is doing more m+ dam than my 620 clappa
sounds like a skill issue ngl
forest owl
who's dooming about ele lmao
i dunno my guilds ele seems to be dooming about rework, something to do with a stat change? 
burnt kelp
I got a pocket rsham but he dreams of playing balance druid
marble swift
sounds like a skill issue ngl
Yeah man
burnt kelp
Nobody tells him that aint happening
median dust
Any time there's a mechanic he loses his mind
Sucks.. Good news is... You can trade in your resto shammy for another. There are plenty going around lol
modest condor
im so glad fury is getting nerfed so underrepresented specs like uhdk dont have to feel bad for not being able to compete http://puu.sh/KgXhC/64855ae759.png
verbal rivet
Nobody tells him that aint happening
Let him dream.
verbal rivet
im so glad fury is getting nerfed so underrepresented specs like uhdk dont have ...
Make UH not ass to play and Iām down
median dust
You're also not limited to one pocket resto. I think I currently have 7 on my favorites for BNET lol
marble swift
Truth but healers are divas and I cba
barren coral
im so glad fury is getting nerfed so underrepresented specs like uhdk dont have ...
uhdk wishes they had our utility tho
fair trade
verbal rivet
Rsham harem is wild
burnt kelp
Unholy dks are the most oppressed spec in the game
median dust
All you gotta do is pop one Rally and the resto shaman will think your shitty CD saved the group and befriend you
median dust
They dont move at all
marble swift
Also why's it gotta fall off just make it heal man
median dust
It's so trash
verbal rivet
All you gotta do is pop one Rally and the resto shaman will think your shitty CD...
Quit letting out the secret tech of rally over the link.
verbal rivet
Bro sometimes I hit rally and I swear the bars don't move
Rally is pure copium, canāt even lie
I think it helps
Idk tho
median dust
Bitter Immunity will get you a pocket Resto Shaman in CoT. Guaranteed or you IO back
marble swift
I'm pretty sure I've saved a few pug pulls on princess with it
burnt kelp
You know what isnt copium ? Ignoring every mechanic of every m+ with the death's advance ams combo
FUCK I love playing death knight
full bison
Bro sometimes I hit rally and I swear the bars don't move
seeing health bars move back in SL using rally
burnt kelp
I wouldnt even know a single boss strat this season if I only played dk
median dust
You know what isnt copium ? Ignoring every mechanic of every m+ with the death's...
especially the ones that kill you while doing it. "cough" ara kara last boss "cough"
forest owl
You know what isnt copium ? Ignoring every mechanic of every m+ with the death's...
when i played dk on nexus and ansurek i was like holy shit i can ignore half the mechanics xD
full bison
intervene
verbal rivet
Charge right into the bomb
Charge into NW Frontals and get one shot
marble swift
Clappa is fun tho
verbal rivet
AMS and Spell Reflect are the only semi comparable things
median dust
Charge into NW Frontals and get one shot
funny story. I had a Prot warrior convince me that intervene absorbs the breath on 1st boss NW. So I did it and got smoked lol. gg
full bison
is it really comparable though? so many things that ams can negate SR doesn't
verbal rivet
funny story. I had a Prot warrior convince me that intervene absorbs the breath ...
On tanks it does.
Bc they donāt take damage
verbal rivet
is it really comparable though? so many things that ams can negate SR doesn't
Itās more of an argument then AMZ and Rally
AMS is better imo. But spell
Reflect is also really good
median dust
I just want DBS to parry the fixation from stich flesh. That's all I ask.
olive wraith
Reflect is one of the best defensive in game
verbal rivet
Reflect is HOT, nowā¦ranged physical damage. I want literally anything
median dust
Reflect is one of the best defensive in game
It is.. until you pug a lot and hit SR, announce it via macro, and the shaman still kicks with 1 sec left on cast. Only to have the mob chain cast you again and kill u XD
but it is clutch 1st boss CoT
olive wraith
It is.. until you pug a lot and hit SR, announce it via macro, and the shaman st...
Even without actually reflecting anything itās still the best
Short cooldown for sizeable mitigation
verbal rivet
DR>actually reflecting for funny damage
olive wraith
Plus clearing tentacles in GB is fun
verbal rivet
Doing 7M Spell reflects in MoTS is fun.
median dust
idk. I was in Dstance with SR and still died to one breath from 1st boss NW+13 lol
verbal rivet
Anima Slash goes crazy
verbal rivet
idk. I was in Dstance with SR and still died to one breath from 1st boss NW+13 l...
Itās a +13
median dust
same boss, DK ate it and asked for seconds
full bison
vers angle ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
verbal rivet
DK also has 2 more CDs to eat it
median dust
yes, it did 6million, with 600k overkill
olive wraith
That doesnāt sound right
median dust
god help you if you get breath twice in a row. haha
burnt kelp
Well dps dks have 8million hp baseline
modest condor
then you werent topped up
median dust
verbal rivet
AMS is optional. And up for every one
modest condor
i have almost 7mil hp baseline
olive wraith
Well dps dks have 8million hp baseline
Without mitigation itāll do more dmg
modest condor
burnt kelp
Will of the necropolis works on spells that would put you bellow 35% doesnt it
warm crag
http://puu.sh/KgXka/cf5d166f0a.png
is that assuming slayer
warm crag
idk i thin kthe impending victory one is better
modest condor
if you dont need it to live a 1shot i think the blast one is better
modest condor
with 8% dr on a 60% uptime or something
plenty of rot damage going around in this season
median dust
Uptime is closer to 45
modest condor
is it?
well either way, i can live it on a 13 with more than 10% hp left before even using the max hp node
so if you died with sr and def stance you are either undergeared or werent topped up
warm crag
tru
olive wraith
We are tanky boys
median dust
slayer, 627, not that much vers as you have. Ill have to double check
coarse nest
Playing slayer is nice you can just blame healer for not being topped instead of you donāt have 5% stam talent
modest condor
i just realised my stamina is with 5% buff (i probably calculated it when i had a priest in my group)
coarse nest
modest condor
still live with 5% left tho
modest condor
im using double duskthread and a high vers ring
olive wraith
And pray you donāt get a third
verbal rivet
And pray you donāt get a third
Love that plan. Mage still has 4 spare CDs
modest condor
i mean if you play IV hp increase you can live it up to +15
median dust
yea, i'm kinda low on vers and avoidance. I've rolled fckin speed on every piece of armor. I think have like 15-18% speed atm
coarse nest
Jus imagine you slide a shadow priest into warrior comp with Rsham
median dust
i should be able to ultra instinct the breath at this point
coarse nest
You probably can get like 10M hp as dps
olive wraith
Love that plan. Mage still has 4 spare CDs
Mages get fukd by rot though
coarse nest
Mini rally from Rsham, priest stam buff, thane IV talent
burnt kelp
If you get fukd by rot
coarse nest
Boom massive health bar
burnt kelp
Just say healer issue
verbal rivet
Priest putting the pain suppression on the DK
modest condor
i usually play with a priest and a shaman tho
so i'll live a +15 with like 20% hp left
coarse nest
Thatās big
median dust
I mean, I got the breath back to back and the paladin didn't sac me. But he did cool dps
coarse nest
HP size undervalued
modest condor
maybe war paint fell off
south kayak
we fell off..
modest condor
also yes people severely underestimate the impact of having more hp
oblique trail
They have 20% stamina just from existing yes
south kayak
oof
oblique trail
Because they basically have to path through it to get what they want
warm crag
They have 20% stamina just from existing yes
inhales you
oblique trail
(1 point)
modest condor
brb speccing into endurance training
south kayak
they were veterans of the third war tho 
oblique trail
inhales you
modest condor
7.2mil hp
south kayak
brb speccing into endurance training
spec into steadfast and endurance
warm crag
they were veterans of the third war tho <:ratge:890357732543168594>
that talent gets renamed if youre an allied race
i think
oblique trail
Playing on my 600 ilvl fdk alt makes me feel unreasonably tanky
modest condor
and i still have more than 10 ilvls to gain
south kayak
Playing on my 600 ilvl fdk alt makes me feel unreasonably tanky
yeah
warm crag
Playing on my 600 ilvl fdk alt makes me feel unreasonably tanky
you dont have feint noob
modest condor
you dont have feint noob
rogue needs feint to live what a dk lives baseline
oblique trail
I have 6.85mill as Thane because I use the stamina node
Which by all means is a lot of HP
But FDK still has over a mill more than I do with similar gear
modest condor
same thing with mages, yeah fire mage has 17 defensives but they need to stack 3 of them just to get to what a fury has baseline
south kayak
idk how someone like dk gets 20% stamina baseline but shamans have dogshit ass fucking DR and survivability
not just 20% stamina
frozen portal
I hate Dk
south kayak
but other stuff like AMS
frozen portal
Iām jealous of Dk
south kayak
it's INSANE
warm crag
rogue needs feint to live what a dk lives baseline
no
frozen portal
And I refuse to play Dk
frozen portal
Even tho I have one named lebron and no symbols
south kayak
warlock also has a lot of defensives
10% free stamina
45 cd that gives a huge absorb shield
soul leech
Either remove some of these defensives other classes have
or give the shit ones more
full bison
get healed whenever someone uses their lock rock
humble plover
Bois I woke up feeling good and strong today. Better nerf fury some more
south kayak
so true
willow hazel
willow cradle
Bois I woke up feeling good and strong today. Better nerf fury some more
Give em hell champ
dull cloak
hey guy's i'm terryfied to ask , the ptr aoe nerv still going to come?
hollow raptor
On ansurek hc if the roots don't last very long is it better to get odyns fury and 1 or 2 ticks of bladestorm or is it better to pre-odyns fury and get more bladestorm ticks?
signal peak
I timed several +9s this week but noticed Rampage is always my #1 and people in here frequently say you're doing it wrong if Rampage is your #1.
What is the advise you guys give for getting CB and BB to be above Rampage?
iron portal
On ansurek hc if the roots don't last very long is it better to get odyns fury a...
I would say odyn + bs on roots
hollow raptor
I timed several +9s this week but noticed Rampage is always my #1 and people in ...
Biggest advice is don't overcap
Or don't worry about overcapping sorry
If you are at capped rage and have a BB and CB still to use, don't press rampage just because you're capped
signal peak
My most common rotation in packs is Ramp > CB > BB > TB (assuming TB Procced). Otherwise I do Ramp > CB > BB > RB > WW
fervent yoke
Or reroll and press breath of sindy
signal peak
lol
idle ember
As thane in m+ multi target situation, should I prio a crushing blow, bloodbath, or a rampage thats glowing?
signal peak
As thane in m+ multi target situation, should I prio a crushing blow, bloodbath...
I think they just answered that by saying Crushing Blow (CB) and Blood Bath (BB) over using Ramp if you dont need to be enraged.
idle ember
just saw thanks
damn is Rampage really not supposed to be your overall top damage for a full m+?
brittle crow
rampage sux
idle ember
dont you need to hit rampage to proc crushing blow?
brittle crow
yea thats its purpose in life
idle ember
and it only gives you one CB per rampage
brittle crow
to enrage u and to let u press CB
idle ember
I normally go rampage -> CB -> Bloodbath
signal peak
pure kindle
Wait so is rampage spam less important than staying enraged?
pure kindle
I thought the moment it was available you spam rampage
brittle crow
no
rampage sux
you only press rampage in aoe after pressing cb and bb
because they do actual damage
pure kindle
So in ST you don't use rampage?
idle ember
I swear I only use rampage to get CB but my damage ends up like this
signal peak
Assuming you're both enraged and have whirlwind stacks your priority is Thunder Blast, Crushing Blow, and Blood Bath (in that order) is my take away.
pure kindle
Ah I misunderstood
brittle crow
I swear I only use rampage to get CB but my damage ends up like this
that is very very very wrong yes
ur missing tons of bloodbath casts for some reason, or not keeping whirlwind up
idle ember
ill work on it thanks
verbal dragon
I also spam rampage whenever it gets up lol
pure kindle
Hmm so we only use rampage at 130 rage?
pure kindle
This new info changes the entire way I see the spec
signal peak
In single target I play Arms š
brittle crow
also u press it if ur not enraged
please dont press crushing blow when not enraged
enrage uptime is prio
gilded pawn
I swear I only use rampage to get CB but my damage ends up like this
This is not that wrong
signal peak
Talents will let you extend your enrage with Blood bath / Blood Thrist which is part of why they take place after CB in the rotation.
gilded pawn
Top mountain thane log has ramp>bb>cb in that order
pure kindle
enrage uptime is prio
Understood Thank you
brittle crow
BB goes after CB because CB buffs BB
gilded pawn
teal pine
mountain thane cb damage wont be as high as slayer
signal peak
BB goes after CB because CB buffs BB
Also true
hardy shuttle
Thane gets that fat rampage damage too
gilded pawn
The enrage part of bt is the most irrelevant part
hardy shuttle
And BB hits will always be around half of CB hits on details because CB hits with both weapons
idle ember
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/j3cB8dhPCN6X4Taf#fight=8&type=damage-done&s...
yeah my damage profile as thane in m+ looks more similar to this
never done a 14 but
same
signal peak
The enrage part of bt is the most irrelevant part
I find I have to manage enrage more diligently to avoid over use of rampage.
gilded pawn
You are worrying too much
bitter palm
I swear I only use rampage to get CB but my damage ends up like this
mountain thane
marsh prism
Was going to item restore something I sold by accident and saw that I recently vendored my hero Sacbrood instead of my champ one XD
bitter palm
just make sure u press both
gilded pawn
You can do that on 0 haste
bitter palm
and u are good
signal peak
and Execute basically only fits in the filler slot, right?
gilded pawn
Yeah
If you have troubles maintaining enrage then should take a look at your rotation a bit
signal peak
It's just down to the wire everytime. I got a weak aura to track it and when I hit ramp to restart the rotation I have less than half a second on enrage.
somber elk
can anyone link a good ravager tick weakaura?
torn prairie
When should you switch to Thane over Slayer for keys?
signal peak
Oh really!~?
gilded pawn
Yeah
signal peak
That changes things
gilded pawn
You are thinking too hard
odd cipher
soft target cap isn't applied yet, right? so we get more fucked on reset?
calm island
yeah fucked on reset
feral ivy
anyone know if this a addon or something. im trying to find out how many 10's i ahve to do and i cant see the recent 10's ive done but i can see the raid
frozen mirage
I dropped hack and slash, and TR for 2 stacks VC. It's been doing pretty well th...
That felt so odd trying now on 5 targets š
median dust
That felt so odd trying now on 5 targets š
feels chunky. i like it
pseudo wyvern
what should we craft after 2h and wrists?
frozen mirage
TR I don't mind but this is first time without Hack n slash
median dust
damage feels good on boss fights, especially procs
oak oak
hey guys, which M+ and raid hero for fury is now more viable?
median dust
Yea I think I watched Bagheera run the same build on a 12 mists. I tried it and liked it. Been using it all week
iron portal
hey guys, which M+ and raid hero for fury is now more viable?
They are both viable. Which one is better depends on level you are dping prob
oak oak
alright i just made dps warr as alt so im only 590ilvl
feral ivy
go slayer then for now
and when u get into higher keys go thane raid go slyer
slayer is fun as hell and still good in higher keys as well
static rock
Are we still getting hit with the target cap nerf?
queen linden
yes
static rock
what should we craft after 2h and wrists?
honestly you should sim, try some rings I'd say, since grabbing one in vault is kinda meh and it's 10 ilvls over max hero track
tacit hawk
I know the Slayer rotation but is there one somewhere I can see to visualize prio for mountain thane?\
static rock
I know the Slayer rotation but is there one somewhere I can see to visualize pri...
pretty sure the gist of it is swap ww for tc
queen linden
pretty sure the gist of it is swap ww for tc
Pretty much.
static rock
for start I do ravager, charge in, CDs, rampage, tc, CB, Rampage, TC and keep going until ravager is over
then slide a BB in between CB and second rampage
queen linden
Don't ravager first
vivid ridge
are there any numbers out for BRD items, anything worth getting?
static rock
I do it for simplicity's sake since I other wise snap agro off tank
queen linden
I do it for simplicity's sake since I other wise snap agro off tank
in m+ or raid?
static rock
m+
queen linden
I turned it in
Its a visual bug. You're getting the buff.
pseudo wyvern
shouldnt we be going for m+ embellishments tho?
errant vessel
Its a visual bug. You're getting the buff.
ah okay ty
static rock
Find a better tank
It's for pugs generally
stable brook
go night elf and stop griefing your tank
static rock
my main tank i can't pull agro no atter what I do, with him I charge then ravager while charging