By the time you get 8/8 ur prob capped on crests anyway
#fury
eager thorn
azure meadow
And it would be miserable
barren coral
blizzard doesnt want you to play 16 hours a day in 2 weeks and never touch the game again
subscription based model in 2024 btw
south kayak
I prefer this
to the previous DF one
where u just get giga geared
in 3 weeks lol
barren coral
but its also much healthier for you and them to not be doing that
south kayak
that was so dumb
eager thorn
Upgrading gear feels so much easier rn than dflight
low folio
df was better
opaque solstice
anyone has a clear and simple weak aura purely for tracking ww stacks?
azure meadow
Upgrading gear feels so much easier rn than dflight
Tell that to all the people complaining that getting gilded crests too hard zzz
I agree with you, it's very simple
low folio
as someone that runs keys, i dont have enough valorstones compared to the crests i get
eager thorn
Tell that to all the people complaining that getting gilded crests too hard zzz
I mean getting crests can be hard for people
barren coral
+9 for crests was bad
eager thorn
I’m fully in favour of the adding to 8s
barren coral
idk what kind of mentality you need to disagree with the change
eager thorn
Might be a hot take to say 10+ bountiful delves could give like 5 too
barren coral
crests being brought down to +8 has no impact whatsoever on people who were previously doing +9 and up
eager thorn
I mean it’s not an impossible to understand viewpoint
The best upgrade materials should come from the harder levels of content
low folio
blizzard had to make changes somewhere. not a popular season for m+ so far in teh general playerbase
barren coral
yes but its 1 key level we're talking about here
blizz did not just add them to +2
its a much more fluent system now, where +8 is no longer dead
low folio
no i meant i agrre with the change
eager thorn
yes but its 1 key level we're talking about here
I know but its still making something a lot more accessible
clever path
They need to lower the myth track vault to 9 imo but that’s just going off the old system to the new system numbers. 18s used to give it right?
barren coral
its only the 10th expansion in a row where gear gets more accessible after the first month
im sure the hardcore playerbase will get over it
low folio
ya best to do whats better fo average people
eager thorn
Not always
barren coral
my only hardcore viewpoint right now
low folio
most of time
barren coral
is that AOTC should absolutely not be granted to anyone who does it at any point before next big patch
how u can say u got the same achiev when u clear the raid with 20 ilvls more and the final boss nerfed like 4 times
barren coral
at least it should be more obvious if someone got AOTC early on or later on
eager thorn
^
storm rune
im fine with that, I genuinely dont give a fuck about aotc
eager thorn
at least it should be more obvious if someone got AOTC early on or later on
So like the part of the achievement that says when it was earned?
Thats in game rn?
hallow sphinx
barren coral
do you ever think before typing mud?
eager thorn
You link the achi and it says the date
barren coral
"oh he finished uldir on october of 2017, yeah thats hardcore"
eager thorn
Pretty easy to know if that was before or after 4 nerfs
If you care enough to gatekeep aotc im sure you care enough to know the dates that your special achievement got devalued by nerfs
quiet topaz
why is wild strikes so much better than endurance training?
barren coral
i dont care about gatekeeping AOTC
im saynig AOTC is not what it currently says it is
and would be nice to have a more clear distinction for it
fickle bluff
why is wild strikes so much better than endurance training?
"why is damage so much better than 0 damage"
storm rune
When you can carry a raid to aotc where half the people are parsing sub 20 and you can buy CE, achieves become meaningless
embrace the void
barren coral
currently every raid tier is designed to be nerfed either directly or by gear prog by like 80% by the end of the patch
so unless youre playing for liquid
eager thorn
im saynig AOTC is not what it currently says it is
How
barren coral
you have no real achiev to strive for
eager thorn
What of this is incorrect
It doesnt say before big changes or nerfs, just before next tier release
azure meadow
He wants header of the curve
eager thorn
You know only 3% of ppl have it right
barren coral
because im talking in the future not now holy shit
tardy lark
i guarantee you the amount of people who get aotc are lower versus the people that dont
sage rune
because you are not ahead of the curve
i mean the curve comes in after the xpan when people go farm it for transmog
azure meadow
Ahead, aheader, and aheadest of the curve
tardy lark
aotc doesnt exist after the tier is over
south kayak
smh my head
tardy lark
or rather, next tier is arriving
azure meadow
Most aheadest of the curviest
barren coral
id just make it tied to 4 or 5 weekly resets after mythic raid launches, would be a lot more meaningful
quiet topaz
what should my average dps be in a raid at 607?
barren coral
3.2m
azure meadow
Sim your character
bitter palm
:balls:
eager thorn
what should my average dps be in a raid at 607?
Fights differ a lot
quiet topaz
oh how do u sim?
tardy lark
oh sweet summer child
azure meadow
sage rune
oh how do u sim?
youtube
eager thorn
oh sweet summer child
Its all downhill from here
tardy lark
yeah find a youtube video that explains the ropes of it
azure meadow
Lol
quiet topaz
ok ty
eager thorn
Get the simulationcraft addon also
south kayak
Most aheadest of the curviest
is that for whoever gets head the most
tardy lark
if i didnt optimize i'd have nothing fun to chase
clever belfry
azure meadow
is that for whoever gets head the most
Only from the curviest
eager thorn
I wouldnt know what loot to farm without sims
barren coral
simbots do it to themselves
tardy lark
holy moly are you one of those people
barren coral
i guarantee if you just progged like a normal human being and picked 2 stats and higher ilvl
you would never know the difference
azure meadow
For me sim creates goal oriented progress, but there some fun in ignorance and just pushing buttons you lose over time
As you optimize
smoky vale
oh how do u sim?
humble plover
Big fuck damage is fun. SO STOP TAKING MINE BLIZZARD
barren coral
unless you have something serious to actually progress for
you would ideally just sim your myth track items
upbeat plume
99% of the game dosent even play at a level where sims even matter so I guess it's a bit of to each their own
tardy lark
really love when i dont have recklessness ready for broodtwiser adds when im told mastery vers is bis and powerful enrage is the only play 🙂
gleaming siren
I think if you enjoy the game and wish to quickly change that you should attempt progressing Mythic Silken Court
eager thorn
barren coral
99% of the game dosent even play at a level where sims even matter so I guess it...
lowball % too
tidal kindle
holy moly are you one of those people
Me in every loot note "Xk dps fury/ Yk dps arms / Z situational case"
Everyone else in loot "Bis | Upgrade"
tardy lark
I think if you enjoy the game and wish to quickly change that you should attempt...
you're ballin lads
oblique trail
I think if you enjoy the game and wish to quickly change that you should attempt...
I already didn't enjoy it before this point
tidal kindle
oblique trail
Maybe I follow my cowarrior
tardy lark
Me in every loot note "Xk dps fury/ Yk dps arms / Z situational case"
Everyone e...
too real man
oblique trail
Onto the permanent bench
humble plover
really love when i dont have recklessness ready for broodtwiser adds when im tol...
I said f it and run frenzied for consistently
gleaming siren
you're ballin lads
I wish I was not balling in this raid
This boss is so awful cringe
6 people play the game
tardy lark
already told sponge that it gets cringe when you die repeatedly to last dispels in p3
toxic bone
annoying question but is there like a detailed thane rotation explanation anywhere? trying to set up my WAs and I cant find one outside of the wowhead one, which just doesnt feel like its in depth enough
gleaming siren
already told sponge that it gets cringe when you die repeatedly to last dispels ...
Looking forward
opaque solstice
my friend just says even more fury warr nerfs coming soon?
i thought all the nerfs happened already
smoky vale
jo
kindred hearth
.5 patch
smoky vale
thereis more
opaque solstice
brah
tardy lark
I said f it and run frenzied for consistently
im a powerful believer, but for anyone not wanting to stack haste and sweat like a mf'er id say run frenzied
sage rune
i thought all the nerfs happened already
implying theres an end
kindred hearth
Limiting targets for roar and bladestorm
opaque solstice
bruhhhh
oblique trail
im a powerful believer, but for anyone not wanting to stack haste and sweat like...
Unironically just running Depths is a cheat code imo
opaque solstice
so you mean the one thing fury is good at they are taking away
oblique trail
I've been able to always hit my Reck for 1st adds with Depths and Powerful, and 24% haste
azure meadow
Soft target caps but the st increases happen also right?
opaque solstice
but frost can just kill everything with 1 button
kindred hearth
Yee fury not allowed to be a top 15 spec unfort
tardy lark
Unironically just running Depths is a cheat code imo
nah bro just delay bs, cancel it for rage expenditure and cry when you have to rally first heal absorbs
smoky vale
cant wait to play spear in aoe 
kindred hearth
Noooo
oblique trail
nah bro just delay bs, cancel it for rage expenditure and cry when you have to r...
Are you sure you don't want to come Sabotage again
kindred hearth
Spear sucks
oblique trail
cmon
humble plover
15% more damage doesn't matter when fdk is there. Can prob go full st
oblique trail
we're about to be on Ansurek
tardy lark
Are you sure you don't want to come Sabotage again
im tempted
oblique trail
Just in time
kindred hearth
Reck spear release. I'm all good
buoyant salmon
you did bad damage
humble plover
Skill issue
humble plover
I agree we kinda cringe but that situation is skill issue
tidal kindle
Show warr gear
kindred hearth
Ret and frost are way stronger
kindred hearth
602 ret = 628 fury
buoyant salmon
Show warr gear
don’t matter the guy is trolling
buoyant salmon
1m overall is tank dam
oblique trail
From personal experience, the average warrior is in fact not very good at pressing buttons in keys
kindred hearth
576 mage with no monitor, bindings, video card, or IQ = 633 fury warrior
buoyant salmon
From personal experience, the average warrior is in fact not very good at pressi...
all warriors but like 9 in fact are not very good
barren coral
1.2b dps is pretty good
eager thorn
What key was it
modest loom
arakara+9
barren coral
jokes aside that ss doesnt say much
ret 3rd place, frost which is also bad somehow way ahead of both
buoyant salmon
frost mage isn’t bad
barren coral
its definitively not great
buoyant salmon
idk it’s like equal to arcane
barren coral
really? cause arcane 100% pumps
south kayak
Fuck you mean frost isn’t great
barren coral
but ive not seen many frost mages to pump hard
south kayak
Frost pumps hard
kindred hearth
Frost is insanely strong
modest loom
idk bro ret just feels insane
kindred hearth
It is
modest loom
ive got 0 gear, 0 enchants, 0 embellishments, dealing equal dmg to fury warrior with 624 and fully stacked
makes no sense
kindred hearth
Beyond overturned and you don't need hands to play it. Literal brain dead class
barren coral
idk the parses dont seem great but tbh arcane is somehow also bottom here which doesnt make sense
are they that hard to play?
kindred hearth
Whenever handicapped ppl ask what class to play the answer is always ret
3 buttons
modest loom
are they that hard to play?
frawztie (mage in my ss) says arcane needs a PHD to master before you start doing good with it
and the guy has played mage for 15+ years
south kayak
Nah you don’t
kindred hearth
Arcane is quite difficult compared to frost yeah
oblique trail
@warm crag 
kindred hearth
Imo
oblique trail
Arcane is quite difficult compared to frost yeah
It's really not
kindred hearth
I watch a YT video and it's just too much
south kayak
Me when arcane blast arcane blast missiles
oblique trail
I might be better than the average player but it did not take me long to figure out how to play Arcane and be able to parse like a somewhat human being
modest loom
mind you we're classic andies just play retail for the first time in a couple years
buoyant salmon
ive got 0 gear, 0 enchants, 0 embellishments, dealing equal dmg to fury warrior ...
that warrior is afk
astral path
whats the best warrior comp for keys?
kindred hearth
Maybe it's just ST but idk. Xaryu videos are wild
buoyant salmon
heroic parses god bless
buoyant salmon
whats the best warrior comp for keys?
prot warrior
astral path
enhance shaman ww monk guardian druid?
astral path
oh true prot warrior
buoyant salmon
bit if u want dps warrior irs guardian rsham enhance sin fury probably
barren coral
why not aug over sin
modest loom
been playing brewmaster/fury/sin/restosham+x
buoyant salmon
if you want you can
coarse nest
No Aug
buoyant salmon
just depends if you’re struggling with living
coarse nest
buoyant salmon
aug teams and no aug teams are both viable
normal bane
for m+ i'm using sacbrood/candlestick(2 minute haste) but should i drop candlestick for just another passive like ritual knife. 2 minute cd desync just for haste dosen't seem good
mild thunder
Fury ST question: Does Culling Cyclone work in ST? Seems like warriors are using it over Brutal Finish for ST.
summer quail
for m+ i'm using sacbrood/candlestick(2 minute haste) but should i drop candlest...
yes. 2m trinkets suck ass
barren coral
Fury ST question: Does Culling Cyclone work in ST? Seems like warriors are using...
it deals the same amount of bonus dmg no matter what
so its better for ST
clever belfry
@peak lagoon did u get conscripted by bob for the raid or
gusty cloak
do you guys meld, right after popping off cds?
mild thunder
Brutal Finish is a 13k+ DPS loss. I guess it's the Opportunist stacking.
sullen dove
BF is aoe talent
Not single target talent
I would hope it’s worse st otherwise there would be no reason for culling cyclone to exist
mild thunder
I haven't seen any logs running Brutal Finish.
peak lagoon
i was afk in game
quiet geyser
Get rid of both bf and cyclone and add fan of long swords
peak lagoon
what were you playing
normal bane
yes. 2m trinkets suck ass
so just double passive?
sullen dove
Most don’t care for that small a difference and a couple 20(now 10%) stronger bladestorms on bosses worth more than some extra rampage damage pad on adds
normal bane
is mandate ass in keys
clever belfry
what were you playing
summer quail
so just double passive?
yeah better than what you have. but if you can get skarmorak shard or mark then use that and sac
peak lagoon
😔
normal bane
yeah better than what you have. but if you can get skarmorak shard or mark then ...
yea i've been farming it, i don't think the trinket exists
willow orbit
Isnt transmitter better?
summer quail
Isnt transmitter better?
yes, but transmitter is not infinitely farmable
willow orbit
But would u do transmitter over mark/shard for m+?
summer quail
yes
barren coral
Most don’t care for that small a difference and a couple 20(now 10%) stronger bl...
i mean it doesnt matter no? if your bladestorm does 1 mill dps, then you just get 100k extra dps no matter how many extra targets you have
which is fucking pitiful for a hero talent but w/e
humble plover
all warriors but like 9 in fact are not very good
Wow man. I know you aren't considering me as one of the 9 and I wouldn't either but still that hurts
sullen dove
so on 2 targets it’d be 5% more each, and the more targets u get the less damage it is for each target
buoyant salmon
i don’t consider myself as one of the 9 lol
humble plover
Still don't have that mount
storm rune
But would u do transmitter over mark/shard for m+?
big downside to transmitter Ive found is inopportune timing of the CD refreshing, pulling a triple pack and trying to find an orb in a sea of mobs is not very funy
sullen dove
“Buh buh it always spawns same position away from you” 
willow orbit
Yes thats what im feeling have shard/mark and transmitter in hero so im thinking about swapping
sullen dove
that’s why I try to just be on the edge of a pack and sim it out of the pack
storm rune
Me frantically spinning the camera 900 degrees looking for it
sullen dove
So I can quickly hop out and see it as soon as it drops
if it’s pad then L out of melee for 2 sec
storm rune
that’s why I try to just be on the edge of a pack and sim it out of the pack
yeah I've been trying, but I'm also not one of the 9 good warriors either
sullen dove
But better to be away then drop all cds with it up
rotund ginkgo
hmmge
oblique trail
What the FUCK
sullen dove
add or blow up
sullen dove
oblique trail
no power
sullen dove
is server where that located private server or some epic emoji server
mualani is so:3
warm crag
runic glacier
culling cyclone or brutal finish now?
warm crag
no
humble plover
Probably going to soon
dusky frost
I keep getting pulled back mid air
calm quartz
pallid violet
I keep getting pulled back mid air
then you are to early
humble plover
I keep getting pulled back mid air
Leap with less than a second on cast and you'll not get pulled. It's sketchy tho have fun lol
warm crag
did you leap before or after the 0.9s big pullin
warm crag
Leap with less than a second on cast and you'll not get pulled. It's sketchy tho...
ive legit done it 30 times in a row without failing its not sketchy at all
sullen dove
I only tried doing it within the last week too but yea it’s pretty fool proof
I also notice when she does the giga suck you get like knocked in the air kinda
dusky frost
ive legit done it 30 times in a row without failing its not sketchy at all
me too
sullen dove
Not sure if that’s noticeable to others
dusky frost
now last 2 times I got pulled back in
sullen dove
but pmuch just watch the cast time and send at very end
humble plover
ive legit done it 30 times in a row without failing its not sketchy at all
Well yeah it's not anymore to professional gaymers like us but not everyone is in the top 9
That first week tho. Getting pulled from mid air was terrifying lmao
sullen dove
Yea in the first week or two def feel like you could jump out at 2 sec and not be pulled
summer quail
I keep getting pulled back mid air
you're leaping too early
summer quail
i just look at the cast, leap as it hits 0.5 sec left
warm crag
idk just reactively leap when you get vertically pulled at 0.9s remaining
sullen dove
I just am hovering over the leap reticle at 2 sec left
And insta click when I get moved
idc about not hitting boss for a global
azure meadow
Just stand in melee and keep hitting her, and when you get pulled up vertically leap out
humble plover
Stand in it and simply say no. She legally can't hit you anymore
azure meadow
True don't give consent
velvet obsidian
If she hits you you can sue for lots of gold.
warm crag
perish
turbid cradle
Is thunder blast prio atm guys?
kindred hearth
This is what biz says.. no clue how this disc feels Abt it
I follow this tho
Execute basically a dead button at this point
barren coral
execute got downgraded to a misdemeanor fine
dusky frost
Execute phase lul
barren coral
has survival hunter ever been fotm?
slender sphinx
Random question: is it possible to do 1h dps that is comparable or close to 2h?
gilded pawn
Random question: is it possible to do 1h dps that is comparable or close to 2h?
It’s about 5-7% if you are willing to make the sacrifice
summer quail
Random question: is it possible to do 1h dps that is comparable or close to 2h?
no. about 5% less than 2h assuming same ilvl and embellish, more than 5% loss in aoe.
flat river
AIGHT LEMME COOK
they should give warrior a cheat death but instead of dodging death you stay alive for 6 seconds with increased dmg, enrage, recklessness, avatar, and lust
then u die
barren coral
get out of the kitchen ‼️
errant vessel
why is vile discharge a thing on ovinax
flat river
get out of the kitchen ‼️
trust me it will catch on
barren coral
trust me it will catch on
suicide to mechanics will now become optimal parsing route
flat river
jumping off insta kills u still
summer quail
why is vile discharge a thing on ovinax
what's that? idk the name of mechanics. swirly? web?
flat river
and has same cd as ankh
buoyant salmon
has survival hunter ever been fotm?
in m+ for season3/4 of shadowlands yeah
wasnt great in raid though
errant vessel
what's that? idk the name of mechanics. swirly? web?
swirly
buoyant salmon
why is vile discharge a thing on ovinax
its one of the only mechanics
errant vessel
yes but you legit can't see anything in melee
buoyant salmon
its pretty aids but if they removed them the fight would be a compl;ete joke
moreso than it is now
errant vessel
I'd like it more if they just made it an unavoidable raidwide dmg thing
not that it's a good boss anyway
but it's so aids with the swirlies
minor wind
For thane m+, frenzied enrage or powerful enrage?
summer quail
powerful
pearl crypt
any quick maffers here
10 items in loot table, 2 items drop every time
and this is the loot
what are the odds
should i buy lottery ticket tomorrow
- make it 1 more tirnket 1 more hammer
okay nvm
so if you dont have heart of azeroth
you cant get azerite items
warm crag
lol
teal ivy
what do you think about warrior drachtyr is it good? How racial
steady night
teal ivy
dracthyr have plus mastery
warm crag
sim it when it gets added to simc
barren coral
m+ communit is insane
i posted my +12 as a joke with 2500 rio just to see what whispers i get
but no people unironically wanna give it a go
unreal onyx
people don't care too much about your io when you have a higher key
they want the key
modest condor
i definitely care about the keyholder's io
modest condor
im not joining a +10 if the keyholder has 2k io
barren coral
the jump from +11 to +12 is too much
unreal onyx
I did a 11 with 612 1600 people and we only overtimed it by 25s
barren coral
well thats not the average experience with these guys is it
most 1600 rio players cant survive the first pull of a +7
unreal onyx
either outdated stats showing
no
inner shadow
times +10 key of a dungeon
tries to join +8 of that same dungeon
gets declined
????????????
young swan
owned
foggy urchin
yo guys, thane vs slayer in m+?
buoyant salmon
im not joining a +10 if the keyholder has 2k io
if its a 12 ppl dont care at all
just bc ppl dream about getting invited to 12s
with all 11s timed
barren coral
just run your own keys 
barren coral
its not
its just a senseless advice no one needs at this point
everyone is aware of their key sitting in the inventory
but if you can time every +11 and need to dream for as much of an invite to the next lvl
something should be done no?
warm crag
pushing a 10 to 76 is very difficult
warm crag
something should be done no?
what should be done
barren coral
something i just told you
buoyant salmon
12s are just so much ahrder
olive wraith
If you were holding a 12 key wouldn’t you be extremely picky with who you invite
barren coral
ofc, already downgraded mine but i get your point
frozen portal
Are you guys making pigs get in discord at 11s plus
eager thorn
you definitely do not need disc for 11s
frozen portal
It feels like miscommunication is the biggest thing that kills those pugs
eager thorn
prob even 12s
fluid cedar
Fury rework?
frozen portal
Maybe just need to be like okay this pack make sure everyone defensive
Before key drop
olive wraith
Biggest thing is interrupts tbh
eager thorn
tbh people at push keys should have situation awareness
frozen portal
Everyone ideally knows what to do tho
barren coral
discord for anything besides +13 and the final 4 myth bosses is CRAZY
olive wraith
Overlapping kicks can hurt
frozen portal
So how do you make sure a pug people get kicks tbh
olive wraith
You don’t
frozen portal
Cuz you’re inevitably gonna overlap and take a big splash somewhere
frozen portal
Marking is crazy
unreal onyx
with thane im kinda vibing with the triple stormbolt talent
frozen portal
Weak aura for that nah r
young swan
automarkers have been a thing for ages
unreal onyx
big qol improvement in pugs
frozen portal
What’s the best auto marker for keys
barren coral
whats the addon streamers use to show defensive cds and kick cd
young swan
whats the addon streamers use to show defensive cds and kick cd
omnicc
barren coral
like this but without using elvui :)
young swan
its all omnicc
frozen portal
So only the interrupts where Omni cc gives a voice are really worth ?
young swan
hate both of those addons
young swan
one of them just changes ur CD indicators
gleaming siren
sim it when it gets added to simc
it's already in you noober
neat totem
For m+ MT if your 1:30 CDs get out of sync for whatever reason (dying from Zug Zug typically), what are you boys doing? Holding CDs (Ravager didn’t get off before Zug Zug usually) until others are back on?
oblique trail
Ravager on its own doesn't really do much
Would personally just hold till next CDs
normal bane
is there a command in raidbots to sim every racial at once
storm rune
torpid sand
i use treacherous and mandate because god hates me
pulsar quest
dude i finally got sacbrood today
unreal onyx
I also don't use it
pulsar quest
ive been running treacherous and mandate for like 2 weeks
unreal onyx
I use sac and myth shard
torpid sand
ive been running treacherous and mandate for like 2 weeks
getting rid of mandate must feel like a bless
unreal onyx
I got sac on my first key
it's still only 619
I don't like spending my gilded crests
torpid sand
i got too used to thane, now i dislike slayer
unreal onyx
I could equip the 2 mythic plate boe's I have
pulsar quest
why does fury value vers so much it feels like
pulsar quest
yeah like
i have a heroic NW helm and a heroic mists helm
which is haste/mas
but sim prefers NW helm with vers
plus i just regemmed to all mast/vers
from mast/haste
torpid sand
4 pieces at 639 holy fuck
unreal onyx
this is the droptimizer for my current gear
the best item (except queen myth ring) is the boe vers/mastery
pulsar quest
4 pieces at 639 holy fuck
i use the raider guide 😎
myth tier from vault 2 weeks in a row kinda boring but not bad
unreal onyx
I got 2 aswell
but i still need to upgrade my gloves +1 level
but im capped on crests
pulsar quest
well my hunter was out for our bloodbound kill last week and the ring dropped too
hollow bloom
Try on court today as thane, seems very good for that boss fight
torpid sand
this is the droptimizer for my current gear
i won't ever sim nerubar myth pieces truth be said
unreal onyx
I got hc brood ring so I assume I will also not be getting it
pulsar quest
yeah
i also got our first heroic queen ring too
so im low
LOW
on the list for rings
lol
unreal onyx
bruh
hollow geyser
is it worth catalyzing a belt and upgrading it if its my only mythic track gear? or should i hold onto my charges for mythic track tier pieces?
pulsar quest
they shouldve given it to our DH but he was a trial tbh
unreal onyx
im hoping for queen ring in vault this week, I only got 1 myth slot and 2 heroic
unreal onyx
is it worth catalyzing a belt and upgrading it if its my only mythic track gear?...
i'd personally only use it to catalyze tier for the beginning to have that set
but utimately it's up to you
hollow geyser
i'd personally only use it to catalyze tier for the beginning to have that set
i have 4 piece but theyre hero track
still save to make mythic track tier pieces?
unreal onyx
depends how easy you can get your hands on myth gear
hollow geyser
id have to wait on vault xd
unreal onyx
there is not really a right or wrong answer to that question
hollow geyser
ah ok. just wanted to check iw asnt making a mistake before i dumped a catalyst charge and gilded crests lol
unreal onyx
I personally am gonna save mine until I have all tier slots on myth
hollow geyser
yeah thats what i was wondering if i should do
unreal onyx
missing chest and shoulders
hollow geyser
thanks for the replies 🙂
summer quail
we still get 2 sockets from a "filled" vault, right?
1 socket
vivid lagoon
First 4 bosses mythic are super easy and also there is mythic+ so it’s super easy to get your mythic tier set with catalyst
clever path
Rash is giving my guild issues. But I don’t think it’s because it’s hard I think people are just being sloppy
Also that bitch keeps putting the pull circle directly on poison giving no space lol
oblique trail
Rashanan is a heal and web placement check
Make calls well before webs go out and tell people to place them there and don't greed uptime
The boss dies regardless
clever path
Yeah the greed is a big issue
As a melee that makes sure not to greed is a bit sad to see people do it so much
summer quail
how many pulls on rash so far?
clever path
Not many. Less than 40ish I would assume
oblique trail
Tbf I was also slow on the uptake on the web mechanic (not a proud moment)
But the moment it clicks for people it should be more than fine
Just start making calls based on the position, like if you're close to the start on the left side of the bridge, tell people to put webs left for example
summer quail
yeah same, i killed alot of people in the middle with it the first time i got it. thankfully i got it on like the 2nd pull
oblique trail
There's plenty of room to place 2x4 webs on the left side there
tardy lark
you get like 3 for the chests you get from the map thingy
marble creek
and they nerf fury warriors? :))
prisma oriole
hello quick question, is mountain thane the way to go for m+ now?
lunar steeple
hhow fury ended up like the worst spec this tier is wild
oblique trail
True maybe we should blow up Blizzard for doing this to Fury in this tier
buoyant salmon
and they nerf fury warriors? :))
what even is this
teal pine
How wclogs manipulated the perceived strength of the spec is wild
Very excited for fury to skyrocket back to the top with the anniversary buffs
buoyant salmon
hhow fury ended up like the worst spec this tier is wild
its good man
barren coral
what even is this
fdk damage log
quiet geyser
hello quick question, is mountain thane the way to go for m+ now?
No. Play which ever you prefer
marble creek
fdk damage log
unholy - lovely pustules go pop
buoyant salmon
unholy has literally always had unbelievable aoe
tardy lark
i'd dip from a key with that introduction as well
zenith cave
Have they changed it so that when i craft my 2 hand i cant upgrade the other for just valorstone? i have crafted a 636 , and have a 4/6 hero i want to upgrade
inner shadow
i'd dip from a key with that introduction as well
this isnt introduction
thats what happened
after the wipe
@robust summit insane
warm crag
you cannot click bshout, ask whether ppl will stick around if it goes sideways and then complain about manifesting the disband
warm crag
Have they changed it so that when i craft my 2 hand i cant upgrade the other for...
close your game entirely and reopen it
after you upgrade your offhand you will return and complain about blizzard spaghetti code
inner shadow
you cannot click bshout, ask whether ppl will stick around if it goes sideways a...
shit was done for anyways
spongie
aint no way
you just tried
to blame this whole thing on me
the fuck
type of manipualtive shit is this
bro if u like this irl you need therapy no joke
flat river
guys i did it
warm crag
lmao
flat river
i got invited to a +11 SV and a +11 ARAKARA
warm crag
i got invited to a +11 SV and a +11 ARAKARA
how'd it go
inner shadow
i don't wanna know how you act or comfort people who go through trauma
flat river
and we timed them
flat river
how'd it go
WE TIMED THEM BOIII
inner shadow
wp buddy
warm crag
WE TIMED THEM BOIII
king shit
prisma oriole
i usually just run my key, and i make sure the ppl i inv have pushed the dungeon in the same key difficulty
warm crag
finally the chef returned to the kitchen
tardy axle
Very excited for fury to skyrocket back to the top with the anniversary buffs
what buffs
flat river
Ara-Kara key
warm crag
i don't wanna know how you act or comfort people who go through trauma
my brother in christ you lost at a videogame and are comparing the reaction of internet strangers to how they'd react if someone had a traumatic experience
inner shadow
i usually just run my key, and i make sure the ppl i inv have pushed the dungeon...
they did
with 10 timed too
flat river
SV key
inner shadow
my brother in christ you lost at a videogame and are comparing the reaction of i...
it is the fact that the first reaction that came to you
was that.
warm crag
we are humorously commenting on how we'd personally leave keys where the keyholder said "u guys will stay if it goes sideways right"
inner shadow
It is worrying mate
flat river
best both of them the best i did was +7
inner shadow
we are humorously commenting on how we'd personally leave keys where the keyhold...
Don't backtrack out of it.
flat river
now its +11
warm crag
i'd dip from a key with that introduction as well
call out aagaard aswell then fool
flat river
ez
inner shadow
call out aagaard aswell then fool
No cuz he said :introduction
that was no introduction
zenith cave
after you upgrade your offhand you will return and complain about blizzard spagh...
Thanks, and yes 😄
warm crag
where did i say that
warm crag
i humorously said you manifested that by clicking battleshout and saying that lmao
inner shadow
ask whether ppl will stick around if it goes sideways and then complain about manifesting the disband
humorously
right fam
buoyant salmon
put completion in the title
inner shadow
Get help
quiet geyser
Spongie you bully
buoyant salmon
less likely ppl will leave
clever path
Very excited for fury to skyrocket back to the top with the anniversary buffs
Buffs? All I remember coming with the new patch is aoe nerfs
inner shadow
ok so do the 9 man
ye i will do the 9 and end up with +2 easy, then go +11, and invite actual people who have a front lobe tomorrow morning
abstract flower
I heccin love getting declined from 8s 622 ilvl 2200io
inner shadow
cuz rn seems keys is death shit
teal pine
Well BT and RB buffs will be big buffs to AM.
But im mostly talking about wclogs being cringe
warm crag
on god you need therapy.
what do i tell the therapist
flat river
finally the chef returned to the kitchen
real
inner shadow
what do i tell the therapist
i'm not joking, these are where small signs show up, it happened w me not same case but
warm crag
please stop diagnosing over the internet
clever path
Well BT and RB buffs will be big buffs to AM.
But im mostly talking about wclog...
Ah makes sense.
inner shadow
but talk w a professional
he will make examples
and the first reaction that comes to your mind
will be telling
flat river
@inner shadow chill
inner shadow
therapy is necessary anyways so
flat river
therapy is necessary anyways so
i think YOU need therapy
oblique trail
Mate I think you need to take a break from online interaction
flat river
REAL
inner shadow
flat river
real banezi moment
inner shadow
sure bud
teal pine
Removing adds on rashanan while it’s one of the 4 bosses people are killing making fury drop to the bottom of mythic logs and making people think the spec is actually bad.
Now adding them back on the anniversary patch so fury will go right back to the top
flat river
Removing adds on rashanan while it’s one of the 4 bosses people are killing mak...
they are adding them back?
quiet geyser
Ya
flat river
niceee
warm crag
Removing adds on rashanan while it’s one of the 4 bosses people are killing mak...
is overall performance an average of all logged parses or the average performance of the spec on all 8 fights?
tardy axle
Removing adds on rashanan while it’s one of the 4 bosses people are killing mak...
doesnt change the fact that furys single target is ass
teal pine
There aren’t parses of all 8 fights and when the change was made there were only parses on 4 of them
warm crag
ye i see what you're saying
fury's design pushes it away from dealing ST in this raid
its about even with arms at this point for the ST fights tho
abstract flower
I hate how execute is just a filler for us anymore ngl
quiet geyser
Buff execute massively, and give slayer fan of long swords. Spec is saved, it met god
meager gyro
@modest condor spotted
flat river
wtf is that
teal pine
Deep fried arcane
flat river
why does the arcane icon look like a troll face
modest condor
<@105847932611231744> spotted
damn you found my secret alt
meager gyro
why does the arcane icon look like a troll face
HDR
supple laurel
SV key
thanks for the dps meter, this is helpful! I was going to ask hm dmg peeps were doing in M+
left perch
good morning skyhold would anyone like to cat stab emoji me
forest owl
2 mounts in 1 night from timewalking box 
lime plaza
Quick question can you reflect the balls in CoT first boss?
sudden tusk
good morning skyhold would anyone like to cat stab emoji me
where is your smug husband
dim pecan
Zen, you gotta be less weird about this
left perch
where is your smug husband
idk he’s offline on twitch sadly
feral ivy
how much vers yall have?
sudden tusk
@hallow sphinx explode with happiness you lovable idiot
gusty cloak
11nw. still getting gapped
indigo arch
Don't worry, the anniversary patch will fix how strong fury is
long prairie
The prot pal will gap u soon
indigo arch
We'll finally be in line with specs like ret and assa, since we had damage and amazing utility like:
sudden tusk
flat river
smoky vale
https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616
hallow sphinx
forest owl
11nw. still getting gapped
lime plaza
Quick question can you reflect the balls in CoT first boss?
Or can you reflect anything there
left perch
https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616
a certain TWITCH FOLLOWER was trying to get smug catted
Did you kill spoder or still prog
btw
sudden tusk
he must kill not one but 2 bugs
keen fulcrum
Should I be popping Avatar before key pop?
sudden tusk
Should I be popping Avatar before key pop?
like prepop?
keen fulcrum
Yeah
sudden tusk
no
keen fulcrum
Wasn't sure if we have like a prepop ritual or anything
left perch
he must kill not one but 2 bugs
damn did Spongie kill it before everyone?
sudden tusk
nope
sudden tusk
damn did Spongie kill it before everyone?
he has attacked the 2 bugs
he must now attack a queen
smoky vale
im going to clap your cheeks
left perch
I bet Tmy gets queen bug first chatting
hallow sphinx
a certain TWITCH FOLLOWER was trying to get smug catted
covert blaze
@warm crag go to the therapist
warm crag
i need it
eager thorn
Quick question can you reflect the balls in CoT first boss?
yes
covert blaze
get a grip
warm crag
sorry
left perch
<@164800371057754112> go to the therapist
he got Wr 10 queen ok leave him alone
warm crag
he got Wr 10 queen ok leave him alone
it was r1 at the time..
feral ivy
kk im getting non stop tanks that just stop here.. WHY dont they pull more im not throwing cd's for 2 adds
sudden tusk
kk im getting non stop tanks that just stop here.. WHY dont they pull more im no...
becuase 4 guards in a key you can still time is fucking aids
warm crag
Oops I meant wr50
its not top 100 anymore
feral ivy
at least pull the rock guy only?
covert blaze
he got Wr 10 queen ok leave him alone
spongie stole my valor
left perch
its not top 100 anymore
tmy 101 spongie 99?
barren coral
kk im getting non stop tanks that just stop here.. WHY dont they pull more im no...
why would you overpull if youre on time here? these are the hardest adds in the dungeon
warm crag
this raid is cringe to parse outside of a could bosses
the words of someone that cannot manifest the other pad classes to throw themselves off a cliff
wait i need to go to therapy over telling people to manifest things
feral ivy
why would you overpull if youre on time here? these are the hardest adds in the ...
the next pack no. the totem summoners yea i would say
sudden tusk
realistically if the group is good you just chain the guards pack by pack as they slowly die
otherwise you just deal with them as is
feral ivy
i love tanks that pull more when adds are close to death
eager thorn
so bait them properly
smoky vale
i love tanks that pull more when adds are close to death
you cant always do that
if you have an assa rogue
they will strangle you for doing that
smoky vale
they need to reinvis
feral ivy
i cant talk shit abount rogues they have fingers that hurt
left perch
spongie stole my valor
Valor or stones?
warm crag
i have like 30 valorstones
olive wraith
I love when people move at the last second for the acid waves last boss AK
left perch
spongie noober
warm crag
please stop owning me
forest owl
quick question, if your guild doesnt kill broodtwister before fury aoe cap on 22nd..i guess that fury warrior is just gonna be screwed on getting parse on mythic right?
sullen dove
they partition stuff in major patches usually
so there'll be a cutoff/distinction
kills after 11.0.5 will be parsed in their own category
summer quail
partition then
wheat estuary
ive got my ret to 620, does like 400k more than my fury in keys
sullen dove
just do more as fury
wheat estuary
wild how theyre nerfing fury again lmao
warm crag
fuck fury nerf fury ruining my game
burnt kelp
frost got buffed?
forest owl
poor frost guy, badly needs buffs
lime plaza
Please nerf fury blizzard omg please
velvet obsidian
Fury stole my girlfriend and shot my dog
proud condor
olive wraith
Wow head does
sturdy palm
For ST raid, is there a prio for mountain thane? In general, what’s the prio for mountain thane?
sturdy palm
What about for m+. Is there a specific rotation for mountain thane. Does it prioritize bloodthirst after rampage? Do you use thunder blast procs on CD?
smoky vale
wowhead also has your answer
half kettle
check the fury warrior guide on wowhead. it covers all of that
sturdy palm
Great. Thanks
eager thorn
it scares me that ppl trying to do 11s still cant aim the orb in dawnbreaker properly
eager thorn
good player
slim grotto
Thane feels so much better than old slayer in keys. Actually pumping.
nova cairn
do yall prefer +15% dmg or +15% haste added to your Enrage?
eager bluff
Dmg for aoe haste for ST I believe
sullen dove
ya
tardy axle
yea im liking thane; Tclap doesnt feel awful to press
feral ivy
im doing crafting orders patron any addon to help remeber what i need?
dire vigil
yea im liking thane; Tclap doesnt feel awful to press
Yeah it’s badass. I wish it was straight up better in ST so we could play it some in raid
north edge
Maybe I’m just bad but
tardy axle
its what like 2%? behind slayer in ST?
north edge
I’m still getting pumped compared to fdks
They’d do like 1.8mil in keys while I’m at 1.4
This is at 11s I’m 626 ilvl
sullen dove
im doing crafting orders patron any addon to help remeber what i need?
i mean u can track the recipes
theyll stack up on the side bar like quests
prolly cant do all of em
but a decent bit
north edge
Idk what I’m doing wrong
I can pump out 2mil easily on my ret which i picked up 2 weeks ago
modest condor
it depends on the dungeons and the pulls too
i doubt you're pulling 2mil in dawnbreaker without an aug for example
feral ivy
i mean u can track the recipes
found addon "profession shopping list" it lets u trakc all at once and works with auctionator so it makes a shopping list as well
tardy axle
in st or aoe
silver pecan
both
dry hawk
why is Massacre 35% execute not takenm in raid for ST? just shit damage
tardy axle
aoe you blow rampage after going through your bb & cb
st you hold rampage until you run out of rb / cb charges then send it unless its about to fall off
quiet geyser
why is Massacre 35% execute not takenm in raid for ST? just shit damage
execute is currently VERY weak, it only really is worth prio'ing if you have 3 stacks as slayer
silver pecan
aoe you blow rampage after going through your bb & cb
st you hold rampage until ...
talking about am
tardy axle
blow rampage to cycle cooldowns
quiet geyser
Rampage > bloodthirst > raging blow?
basically, yes.
summer quail
why is Massacre 35% execute not takenm in raid for ST? just shit damage
execute is very weak without mark for execution+ashen.
frail trout
what talents will hurt me the least for killing rashanan adds if I want to pull the plug on 2 points to get Vicious Contempt?
quiet geyser
you dont need either WW talents.
frail trout
basically nobody else in my guild specs for aoe on that guy, the adds just die to me and our other warrior solely
fair enough, the cds should take care of them
quiet geyser
if u run TR, you still get 2 stacks of WW buff even without imp. ww
quiet geyser
more than enough to kill them
tepid solar
Random question, on necrotic wake, how does the dps not die to the arrows in the trash before 3rd boss? DPS was saying tank absorbs it? Isn't it just it goes to the mobs?
tardy axle
my guild on rash said that i was on add duty solo; by about the 4th set i think i ran out of stuff to use and we wiped lol
tardy axle
Random question, on necrotic wake, how does the dps not die to the arrows in the...
you aim it at the other add
crisp bronze
I experimented with dropping a point in the talent that makes bt do execute dam and grabing odyns
frail trout
yeah I kinda like that we have 2 warriors because we can alternate
some of the moves he goes to have double add sets
I can't have cds for both
tepid solar
you aim it at the other add
Ty, what if only 1 add is left
tardy axle
tank does his job and body blocks it
dry hawk
2/8M and cant do rotation, feels bad man ('m just trash)
tepid solar
tank does his job and body blocks it
Ok thank you
tardy axle
yeah I kinda like that we have 2 warriors because we can alternate
yea, our other warrior is kinda 
so we only got one warrior in the raid; they just tell other people to go aoe instead
quiet geyser
for the 3rd set, you pretty much have everything up. just save like 1 thing for the 4th lol
tardy axle
depends on where he goes; second land on the right path has no adds
quiet geyser
also realize when he flys over to the middle part the 2nd time, there is another add set
frail trout
hmm, even if I drop both whirlwind talents I only gain 1 point to funnel into vicious contempt
because you need a connector point to keep the branch leading to odyns fury
dry hawk
thats it, I'm going SMF
tardy axle
its 50% chance to enrage; then you never have to hit rampage
crisp bronze
Just swap to 30s reck/bs and call it easier mode
dry hawk
AM on Mythic Sikran is sus
tardy axle
cant even get reck without picking up rampage lol
dry hawk
I wish teh 2 central talents also affected Ravager
calm island
the 11.0.5 changes to roar and OF are saying reduced beyond 8 targets wasnt it 5 targets when they announced it
tardy axle
it use to be reduced beyond 8 theyre makin it reduced beyond 5, nothings changed since announcement
frail trout
hmm, if I wanted 2/2 vicious contempt instead of 1/2 I think I would have to drop bloodborne or bloodcraze
I guess at that point I can sim it
calm island
it use to be reduced beyond 8 theyre makin it reduced beyond 5, nothings changed...
the 11.0.5 changes are saying 8 https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-0-5-datamined-class-changes-346471
tardy axle
m at work wowhead is blocked can you copy paste
quiet geyser
hmm, if I wanted 2/2 vicious contempt instead of 1/2 I think I would have to dro...
bloodcraze def don't. 2/2 VC might give u more than bloodbourne tho, those adds kinda die too fast for thunderous to even get full value
frail trout
yeah especially since rasha enters VC range so quick
crisp bronze
The real question is how has ret gotten away with 30s wings and being strong all around
frail trout
I may try it
tardy axle
its 30 second wings now? it use to be 1 minute?
calm island
m at work wowhead is blocked can you copy paste
tardy axle
calm island
what i was reading was as of oct 3
tardy axle
so either reverted the nerf or its not accounted for
dry hawk
is ST arms, even with crappy rotation more ST than fury ST?
frail trout
I'd say sim your character especially if you do not have a good arms set, stat-wise
dry hawk
I have like no crit for arms tho
frail trout
I just did the same for myself
and fury was only 10k less
but fury is a bit better survivability so I'll probably play it when we get to kyveza
crisp bronze
its 30 second wings now? it use to be 1 minute?
The talent with wake of ashes gives them wings
frail trout
love the clap
nimble ermine
love gambling to get a blast proc
quiet geyser
can say the same thing for slayer to spin on BT
orchid sparrow
orchid sparrow
Does fury have the indomitable force stuff
nimble ermine
i miss when cshb did actual damage
young swan
just prot
orchid sparrow
young swan
honestly that would be sick
nimble ermine
imagine if using OF would give you 1 blast from the avatar proc
man why isnt it a thing
young swan
would be nice
dry hawk
yay 3/8M now!
quiet geyser
gg
dry hawk
7th raid day haha
modest condor
grats
sullen dove
pog
astral path
should i risk going single target for mythic rashan
quiet geyser
if u wanna be a Dbag sure
dry hawk
grats
ty, Rashan first pull 40%
fucking puuumping
this potion makes this boss room nice
eager thorn
what pot is it
dry hawk
left perch
is warrior midge
hoary cedar
For aoe we don't worry about marked for execution stacks right? Just send execute when we don't have a reckless empowered or rampage?
summer quail
For aoe we don't worry about marked for execution stacks right? Just send execut...
for aoe we basically only press execute when at max marked stacks. last button we want to press basically
well to be exact, whirlwind is the last button we want to press when not doing so for whirlwind stacks
hoary cedar
Ok it has it above BT and RB on the rotation guide so wasn't sure if we held it more max stacks or sent it before those if not
dry hawk
progging 30% pull lol
keen kindle
eager thorn
pearl sequoia
craggy seal
does anyone have a WA for tracking bloodthirst crit cchance? im using khakans warrior weak auras but the fury one doesnt track it
dry hawk
you track the chance? is there a need to