fury

[median lintel]

Hello, quick question, can someone tell me how can i make a macro, on one button to apply rend / skull breaker when rend is up on the target ty

[rotund ginkgo]

you cant

theyre both on gcd

click rend then click skullbreaker

well you can but i think its a cast sequence macro

also this is fury not arms

[cold silo]

Someone said it takes 90 gilded crests to craft a 636 wep is that right? Is it the same for 636 gloves?

[rotund ginkgo]

try #arms or #ui-addons-manager

[rotund ginkgo]

90 crests to make the 636 gilded thingy, so yes

[cold silo]

ok thanks! since my other wep is 619 I wonder if arms will be stronger than fury until I can get my other wep to 636 as well

[rotund ginkgo]

just sim i suppose

play what u like really

[cold silo]

nod will do. Fury is just more fun 😂

[olive wraith]

Mh ilvl is still solid for fury so im sure its fine

[shell gate]

hey guys question, trying to figure out the priority between RB, rampage, and bloodthrist. with the 4 set bonus, should rampage always go 1st then RB until 2 stacks then go bloodthirst?

[storm rune]

set doesn't change anything

[shell gate]

ok so then rampage, blood thirst, then rb ?

[olive wraith]

That’s not the prio

Wait

Are you generalizing cb/bb too

[storm rune]

Honestly I'm not sure, didn't the apl change slightly this week?

[olive wraith]

Or actual rb/bt

Sorry I only ask because some people don’t specify cb/bb sometimes

[marsh agate]

What talent point to swap to get bitter immunity for affix?

[olive wraith]

Don’t

[shell gate]

ive barely touch warrior, what do you mean generalizing cb/bb?

[modest condor]

overwhelming rage

[olive wraith]

I mean are you saying ramp>cb>bb

Or did you actually mean ramp>bt>rb

Also slayer or thane

[shell gate]

going slayer and i meant ramp>bt>rb

[olive wraith]

I think rb>bt in most cases

Only reason to prio bt is when you’re fishing for reap procs

Rb is more consistent

[shell gate]

perfect, thanks

[pliant jackal]

people really struggling on the interupts for NW

[hard widget]

Well there is quite a few kicks on certain pulls

[pliant jackal]

and i look at my interupt meter dks at the lowest lmao

dk not interupting should be a crime

[velvet obsidian]

I had a run where I had more interrupts than everyone else put together. I may lack utility as a warrior, but at least I hit my fucking kick button.

[hard widget]

Maybe he stopped a lot with grips, or just overlapped kicks with someone else

[pliant jackal]

maybe hard to say when they are 10 kicks less than everyone

[lavish pond]

hey guys, what do u recommend the best rotation for slayer and mt?

[pliant jackal]

look at the wowhead guide on fury

[lavish pond]

yeah i read it

[pliant jackal]

bruh you can't say you read it and ask this question

[lavish pond]

but now witht hte changes maybe something changed and they didnt update it yey

dude

i explain

[pliant jackal]

guide has been updated

[astral rose]

yo dawgs, thinking about crafting a ring and the sim sais that crit/mastery outperforms mastery/haste. currently have 30% haste unbuffed, was wondering if there is a certain breakpoint where haste becomes bad

[storm rune]

nope

[astral rose]

ok i mean worse than crit, not bad

[storm rune]

again, nope

just means that crit is worth more than haste with your current stats

multiplicative values are tricky like that

[pliant jackal]

stats have Diminishing returns

[olive wraith]

My top gear sim told me to enchant crit on my rings

Just listen to robot

[pliant jackal]

ye

trust the sims

[astral rose]

damn just put 315 mastery on vault ring yesterday, now i got to reconsider all my life choises

[storm rune]

1.2x1.2 > 1.1x1.3

[olive wraith]

Ggs you will now do 0 dps for that

[astral rose]

might aswell delete and reroll paladin

[storm rune]

had a buddy actually do that

their dps tripled

[olive wraith]

0x3=0

Jokes on you

[pliant jackal]

lmao

true

[astral rose]

he diden't even need too sim his pala, just put on highest ilvl gear and any enchant

[old cloud]

Is Crushing Blow less prio in m+ now with thane build?

[pliant jackal]

same prio just put the empowered thunderclap at the top

[merry pewter]

Curious why rampage is always top dmg in thane vs cb in slayer.

[silk wharf]

Slayer has a 30% dmg node for Rb right?

[summer quail]

yes, unfortunately

[old cloud]

Do we know if thane build is also better 100% in raids aswell? Like for aoe fights

[summer quail]

worse in raid. raid favors burst aoe and that's slayer

[silk wharf]

The raid fights where fury excels are that way because they line up with slayers nutso burst. so probably not.

[old cloud]

ty!"

[pliant jackal]

Prios will not change until Oct 22

[frail trout]

damn I kinda freak'd on that threads +10, 3rd boss

[verbal dragon]

just got the wild hammer but i have this axe rn should i swap once i get hammer to 619?

[frail trout]

that's my boss dam wtf

but looking back I guess we lusted, we got affix during lust and I got PI'd apparently

[pliant jackal]

sim it

[warm crag]

fury needs to just be nerfed immediately

had enough of being so broken

[torpid sand]

[warm crag]

holy

gamer

[torpid sand]

never used defensive stance so much in my entire life

[warm crag]

ok dstance for a 10 is a bit cooked

[torpid sand]

nah fuck that, i'm good for the week

[frail trout]

I just got my city of threads hero in that same key too

love that, now I never have to go there again

[buoyant salmon]

omg thanks for reminding me i have a 12 tnw to send on my dk

can finally do real real damage

[weary sail]

is there anything i can drop for intimidating shouts?

[keen kindle]

Bounding stride

[olive wraith]

Best option is probably the talent below heroic leap

That’s the name

[eager thorn]

rallying cry

[weary sail]

okay bounding strike sounds good

dropping rallying is kinda bad no?

[eager thorn]

depends if u actually use it/use it well

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t do that but it’s up to you

[north edge]

Rally is like a shittier rsham rain

[weary sail]

bounding strike is nice QoL but not needed

[north edge]

That is up 1/15th of the time

[weary sail]

i like to pretend i have some group utility okay

[olive wraith]

It’s not about uptime

[inner harbor]

u can drop whatever this is called

[eager thorn]

you prob shouldn't have crackling thunder anyway

[buoyant salmon]

thunderclap range

[eager thorn]

tbf id be swapping crackling thunder for rumbling earth

shockwave buff op

[buoyant salmon]

yeah but ppl never wanna drop bounding stride

lol

[eager thorn]

ye i dont really know why intim shout is wanted

[buoyant salmon]

i mean its another stop that you dont lose anything meaningful for

ppl complain fury has no utility but doesnt accept that their stops are great utility

[north edge]

the problem is fury has no damage

[buoyant salmon]

just not true lol

[warm crag]

fury has NO damage!

[keen fulcrum]

What build are you guys using for M+?

[olive wraith]

Thane

[keen fulcrum]

This look right? I see some using Bladestorm. Not really sure what the difference in using the two would be

[buoyant salmon]

ravager as thane

ppl probably just forget to switch (ive done that)

[olive wraith]

Looks about right

[keen fulcrum]

Cool cool. Thanks!

[nimble ermine]

fury does less damage than aug!

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[hard widget]

Looks about right ye

U can change the defensive note to be the impending victory gives hp one

If you want to survive 1 shots better

[storm rune]

Just got treacherous Transmitter, anyone have a preferred WA for it?

I can only find ones with like 700 downloads, can't judge the vibes of them all

[covert blaze]

https://wago.io/xWkCDegWH there are many like them but this one is mine

[storm rune]

You've never let me down before, zhai

[covert blaze]

[pearl sequoia]

done all my 11's now applying to 12s i think im at the point where people want only meta, unless you are already giga io

shiiiyyt mayn

[keen fulcrum]

Which defensive nodes are we speaking of?

Ah, found it. In the Hero tree. Was looking in warrior tree.

[craggy seal]

is AM viable in mythic vs RB?

[gilded pawn]

Will be in 2 weeks

[pearl sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/heisenberg-dance-dancing-walter-white-walter-white-meme-gif-27074204

[hard widget]

Anlaki

[arctic raft]

How do we sim for raid since there is very little pure ST? Using MT build but on normal patchwerk?

[pearl sequoia]

5 targets 1 and a half mins

oh for raid

i guess just pure ST

[oblique trail]

Just sim 5 min 1 target for anything honestly

[eager thorn]

ok the ara kara leap tech on last boss feels so good to do

[oblique trail]

Whether it's raid or m+

[arctic raft]

Do you sim with the pure ST talent setup?

[pearl sequoia]

yea still makes my anxiety skyrocket tho

[eager thorn]

i think its less anxiety inducing for me

cos that mechanic lives rent free in my mind

and i know i just have to watch cast bar and not look around for goo now

[olive wraith]

Sim with whichever talents you’ll be using for each specific fight

[oblique trail]

I dont personally because I just play arms on pure ST, but do it if you play Fury for those to

[eager thorn]

did have to tactically tank a pool under boss > shockwave > leap out last second tho which was a bit sketchy

[arctic raft]

Fair, I’m doing the same so guess I’ll sim MT talents for fury

[short cobalt]

can I make 2 omen crafted weaps?

[pearl sequoia]

yup

[floral raptor]

What are your thoughts on mountain thane for mythic brood?

[floral raptor]

How ahead is Arms then fury on pure ST

[unreal onyx]

I will stay slayer for brood

more instant burst to kill adds

[feral ivy]

just started prog on mythic rash is it better to just go ST or aoe?

[unreal onyx]

you lose not too much going slayer aoe vs slayer ST and can pad big big time on adds

I stayed slayer aoe

[feral ivy]

on rash?

[unreal onyx]

rashanan

do the adds count to logs?

they don't show up in mine

[feral ivy]

they do not count on logs

[unreal onyx]

F

i guess if you wanna farm logs go ST

if you wanna farm details dmg go slayer aoe

[hushed gust]

so, a bit late to the party. looking at this Mountain Thane build. what's the intro? is it the same as Slayer? or is the thunderstrike strong enough to change up the intro?

[eager thorn]

They will do in like 2 weeks

[acoustic yoke]

Thunderstrike?

[eager thorn]

And if you’re playing fury ur guild can just go full st and let you solo adds

Unless ur tryna log mt prob just better for it

[hushed gust]

sorry, thunder blast

[unreal onyx]

[acoustic yoke]

Ah

[acoustic yoke]

U prio it in CDs

And spend all charges b4 CDs

[eager thorn]

Transmitter > Charge > reck ava blood fury pot + thunderous roar > thunder blast > ravager > odyns fury > rampage > thunder blast > aoe prio

[acoustic yoke]

But basically ye you open up like Slayer

[eager thorn]

Is what i do

[acoustic yoke]

I ravager b4 I blast tbf

[eager thorn]

You can overcap doing it

[acoustic yoke]

Enough time to send it b4 the ravager thirst I headcanon to myself

Ngl I'm just winging it till I'm told what to do

[hushed gust]

okay, so weave it in after buffs+roar, and then after OF. gotch7ya

[eager thorn]

Well you want to use thunder blast whenever you have risk of overcapping really

[acoustic yoke]

Just use it once it's up

Unless ofc ur not enraged

Oh damn I got 3hr prog tmrw

I just want to grind diablo man

[hushed gust]

i understand it's top prio in rotation. just needed to confirm the intro and burst changes

thanks though.

[acoustic yoke]

Tbh as long as you're not munching procs the slight deviation are whatever

[oblique trail]

Last I looked at the top end, about 30k ish

Similar disparity rn with my gear

[acoustic yoke]

Only 30k?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[torpid sand]

Maybe less crit 🤔

[floral raptor]

Thats not much at all tbh I saw those numbers based on IZEN spreadsheet but surely with the nerfs to Fury the gap widened?

[oblique trail]

Slayer nerfs hit both specs

[oblique trail]

No the 30k gap is with this weeks hotfixes

[hushed gust]

raw numbers alongside percentages might be a better way to look at that. at 616, i have 13809(23%) haste, and 13375(41%) mastery prior to items and buffs. my crit's 4925(16%)

[floral raptor]

Wait so what's fury warrior BIS slayer simming at these days was 1470000 roughly pre nerf

[torpid sand]

623 here

[oblique trail]

That's like pre any nerfs

[acoustic yoke]

The good times

[snow edge]

@oblique trail was it you saying that with some cooking there was a world where AM was potentially even ahead in ST after anniversary changes?

[acoustic yoke]

That's a cooked world

[floral raptor]

Is there a site that has the updated numbers?

[oblique trail]

Rn the highest sims should be roughly 1.43 mill for slayer fury, and 1.465 mill for arms

SimulationCraft should, but I haven't looked in a while

[floral raptor]

Ok ty

[acoustic yoke]

Where does that put us around?

Mid of the pack?

[oblique trail]

Err idk about ST but I can definitely see a world where this is the case

[snow edge]

Might have been silm actually, I think it was just some preliminary numbers showing a potential scenario

[oblique trail]

Projected to be less than a % behind RA, with optimisations to the APL it could get more narrow

[snow edge]

Was pretty early days though

[acoustic yoke]

Idm AM in keys but not too fond in ST

[oblique trail]

Silm is definitely more in the know about the numbers than me

[snow edge]

He is a numbers man

[floral raptor]

Yep seems mid to bottom third

[hard widget]

OMG buff vdh

[acoustic yoke]

Does blood dk not even exist in that list?

Or am I blind

[floral raptor]

Yeah it's not on there not sure why

[hard vapor]

i try to find on wago a wa to tell me when to spell reflect since im new as warrior but i dont find any usefull someone know something ?

[pearl crypt]

Hey guys

[drifting reef]

What talent can we drop for bitter immunity?

Oh a standard m+ tree

[summer quail]

as thane?

[drifting reef]

yeah

[summer quail]

crackling thunder. talent is not needed

[drifting reef]

ah

Thank you!

[covert blaze]

[gaunt moat]

is there a new tirna scithe bug that i'm unaware of where balls do 360 mid flight ?

[acoustic yoke]

What?

Do you have a vod of this spectacle?

[gaunt moat]

sadly not but my warlock got killed twice from it i saw the balls literally going the other way

[olive wraith]

Don’t really need bitter immune though

[livid marsh]

i heard the bug, apparently the ability seems to be broken, it doesnt shoot off the balls

[velvet obsidian]

Bitter immune is the bad. Not low cd enough to help this week really. Unless your healer begs for it, just IV and maybe health stone.

[torpid sand]

5 minutes and zero queues

god i hate this dungeon

[livid marsh]

quite obvious why

[torpid sand]

[livid marsh]

no one likes that one, a friend had a 7 key and just wanted to run it, we didnt get a single application in 10 minutes

[keen kindle]

"oh stitchflesh is easy!"

Fuck that boss. Fuck necrotic wake

[torpid sand]

[keen kindle]

it's the worst key of the entire season

hands down

[young swan]

i feel like SV is way worse

[livid marsh]

sv doesnt have that many annoying abilities

[young swan]

whats annoying about NW

[keen kindle]

People can DO stone vault in pugs

[livid marsh]

literally everything besides the first and second boss

[keen kindle]

People CAN'T do wake

[young swan]

the only thing that genuinely pisses me off in that key is the mini boss with the phys immunity shielf

that never gets purged

[keen kindle]

That shit is so annoying

It never gets purged and then I realize "why do I have no rage?"

[young swan]

other than that tho

dungeon is fine to me

[keen kindle]

Wake is by FAR my most depleted key

To the point where seeing wake and pugging it is basically a garanteed deplete

[sullen dove]

Also who the hell is doin an 11 for completion

much rather spend time in a 10 if the goal is for vault or somethin

[livid marsh]

obvious 3rd boss issues, endboss annoying as hell, most of the trash is annoying as hell too

[keen kindle]

Dude the endboss is free as fuck

[livid marsh]

i said annoying, not hard

[keen kindle]

I don't even find it that bad, aside from the time I accidently bugged out the exile with the charge and died

That was hilarious

90% of it is stitchflesh tbh

And amarath is honestly kind of annoying without a dk because "oh look noone trapped and now we're dead!"

[modest condor]

i hate that that guy is pretty much mandatory to pull now with the count changes

it's either that or clearing out the whole first room

[keen kindle]

Yeah

That's awful

also tanks can't point a cone to save their lives

"leeme just randomly swing around because I want to pull more OOPS THE WARRIOR DIED"

Stg some of the tanks I've met are playin mario kart

But hey, that's the pug life for you!

[keen kindle]

[livid marsh]

my last run went like that, have an insanely bad shaman, so he obviously didnt purge the miniboss, forgot to use bl like 4 times, the tank was getting melted beyond believe, kept running around with the big guards, cleaving the healer twice, we nearly wiped at the 2nd boss because no one wanted to kick the other magus, up on the 3rd boss arena, tank died, instantly released, had aggro, resulting in wipe fiesta because enemies phased down and people kept releasing, we managed to actually do the 3rd boss decently and then we wiped 4 times at the last boss because tank died or the heal kept instantly dispelling to root all 3 meeles

[keen kindle]

it's okay

[livid marsh]

shit like that rarely happens in other dungeons

[keen kindle]

I dsinstively remeber getting into a +6 when I was still hard stuck

before I got KSM and finally got to higher then a fucking 5

[livid marsh]

it was just a 7 key...

[keen kindle]

Dude

I had a shaman in full AH greens with some DF s4 gear still

doing. 50k.

As enhance

in aoe

[livid marsh]

why'd you even bring him in

[keen kindle]

wasn't my key!

LMAO

[livid marsh]

i would have just left

[keen kindle]

I did

I called them out on it too

because they got ONE SHOT by the cone on the first boss

[livid marsh]

yeah im not the guy to be bitching about ilvl but people should atleast bring a certain minimum

[keen kindle]

If you're at least 600

for lower keys up to a 6 I don't really care

but when you're that low AND not trying

HELL NO

[livid marsh]

i find it already annoying enough that you cant find groups into 7s with 610ilvl... its literally what drops in there

[keen kindle]

I did 20 times the damage of that in DF

And I'm not even that good

[keen kindle]

because pugs want extremely overqualified people

They want 3k meta classes for a 2

It's unfortauntely always been this way

[livid marsh]

well i also want a yacht but 🤷‍♂️

imo rating should just be removed and the only metric you should get is the key that the person cleared

[keen kindle]

And ya know what that would change?

Zilch

[livid marsh]

people are to fixated on a arbitrary number

[keen kindle]

And then they get fixated on ilvl

[livid marsh]

yeah but if i have a dude that cleared a 7 i atleast know that he cleared a 7

[keen kindle]

And like

That's still the case now?

[livid marsh]

no

you can have people with 2k that might have never cleared a certain dungeon beyond a 2

[keen kindle]

Yes but like

You can see their best run for the dungeon still

and say no based on that alone

[livid marsh]

do you think people look at that?

[keen kindle]

No

[livid marsh]

exactly

[keen kindle]

But removing rating won't change that

Then we just go back to RIO

And add yet another mandatory addon

[livid marsh]

then we go back to just ban addons altogether

[keen kindle]

Ah yes

I love this debate

So

let's rework classes too

[modest condor]

yeah but clearing a 7 is an extremely low bar

[livid marsh]

other mmos work just fine without addons

[modest condor]

at this point you have people in +10s that aren't using poison cleansing totem

[livid marsh]

i dont see why wow must be the only one to literally be mandatory

[keen kindle]

Well

This debate is already talking to a wall

as it always is

[livid marsh]

i know its a low bar

go ahead

tell me the pro of addons

[keen kindle]

So I'mma go be productive lol

The pro is customization

freedom to not worry about blizz fixing their damn ui

Or plates

Or giving me the ability to track something SUPER IMPORTANT

That isn't in the game

it's allowing me to do whatever the fuck I want with them

[livid marsh]

yeah somethign that should be in the basegame but blizzard never adresses because "addons"

so yeah either way, both can work

[keen kindle]

Okay let's add the functionality of evrey addon to the game

That takes dev time

Away from content

Now we wait longer and gain literally nothing for it

See how this goes nowhere?

You just tell players "hey we're taking away a core part of customization of your game because we don't like it anymore"

And it's not gonna change toxicity, those other games such as FFXIV prove that more then well enough

So...what do you actually gain?

[modest condor]

there are so many niche functionalities in addons that if blizzard were to try to add it to the base game they would guarantee miss 90% of it

[keen kindle]

Like RP addons

rare trackers

is that super niche? Yeah

But you're still removing them for, again, no real benefit for them or the playerbase

People will still be just as toxic as they were with a dps meter, RIO, or any other addon

And tbh it wouldn't change a damn thing as long as wow has an API and armoury

Where sites like RIO can pull from anyways

You just get to have a website open and look people up now instead of having it in your face.

[livid marsh]

brother christ this is not twitter with a character limit

[keen kindle]

Yes I type like a maniac I'm aware lmao

I mean discord does have a character limit but it's like 5,000

[teal pine]

Best/worst part of ff14 "not" having addons, is that the addons in that game are actually insane.
Want to bot? Download this link real fast the devs dont care

[keen kindle]

well

14 has no anti cheat

wow....kind of does but it's pretty trash

Still, wow having some manner of anti cheat is why you don't see mods popping up all over the place for wow, at least ones that are very public

And people that actually want to cheat can very easily get away with it too lol

[strong pilot]

I always use the one that makes your gcds not be affected by ping

[keen kindle]

wait what the fuck

That's actually fuck nuts

[keen fulcrum]

I'm about to do a mists 11

Any pointers. lmfao

[keen kindle]

You're cooked

[keen fulcrum]

Bet

[keen kindle]

Dodge the balls, do the maze correctly, hit the right add, don't die to stupid

Burn the first boss as hard as you possibly can because fuck dealing with that for 6 minutes straight

[summer quail]

press buttons. do damage

[keen kindle]

Be thane cuz it's cool

Tell us how it goes!

[brittle crow]

mountain thane is cool in keys

we love thane

[young swan]

oh wow

[buoyant salmon]

lol saw u in that

sherlock should be executed

in game

[young swan]

yeah man

idk

thats wild

[eager thorn]

948k with an aug wtf

[young swan]

not even kidding he was doing aug damage on the second pull

[summer quail]

ilvl?

[young swan]

i kept up with his infernal window with 0 cds

616

[summer quail]

[young swan]

i mean hes low

but like

i was expecting 600 ilvl

when i opened character tab

[keen fulcrum]

Gahdamn

[sullen dove]

many clappage

[wanton mirage]

is that other 4 best possible buffers for Fury in M+?

[sullen dove]

i mean minus aug cuz kill aug

but probably

[teal pine]

Every new patch i dont play until that plugin is back up

[waxen vale]

that comp is designed for you to own 😮

[teal pine]

and i just didnt play that game for a while because i didnt know about it

[real birch]

is there a key level where mountain thane becomes better than slayer? or is it just mountain thane all the way

[keen kindle]

I mean both should be fine

Thane is preffered for higher keys thou because of better sustained AoE

[strong pilot]

Based

[young swan]

wow ur so epic

[eager thorn]

finally timed a 10 nw pog

[sullen dove]

omg ty this literally made my day

from my idol blue name mr skyhold himself xantage 17 paragraphs 20% slam buff

[keen kindle]

Look

it's a pretty BASED meme

[covert blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1097990707899273283/1194471552884940870/attachment-1.gif

[sullen dove]

450 heroic ansurek killer silence

[serene vessel]

Chat how jas MT felt in keys

[young swan]

big dam

i like it

[keen kindle]

it kinda fucks

[covert blaze]

i like pressing thunderblast

[serene vessel]

Will I beat fdk

[keen kindle]

Probally not

[sullen dove]

if you are better yes

[keen kindle]

But here's the trick

[covert blaze]

[keen kindle]

They're getting nerfed

and we aren't

[sullen dove]

[keen kindle]

Oh wait

[young swan]

no augerus

[keen kindle]

Never play with aug

[sullen dove]

its funny how aug is just like 2/3s of a dps

but it doesnt matter cuz they give you +20% hp!!

haha funny!

[keen kindle]

All the power to those who like aug

But I still won't play with them

[buoyant salmon]

kiras group is without aug

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/car-the-cat-bounce-smile-happiness-excited-joy-cute-scary-creature-car-cat-bounce-bouncy-gif-5172289699316261402

[buoyant salmon]

its seeming that with and without aug are both viable

[sullen dove]

aug is ass

die aug

[buoyant salmon]

same with a melee and ranged comp

if only someone wouldve predicted this before the patch

[young swan]

doing an augerus 12 db

should be good

[sullen dove]

2mil overall or die

[keen kindle]

Na aug is required for even +2s (pugs)

[hardy cargo]

we luv clappin with no stinkvoker

[keen kindle]

That details name

PErfection

[hardy cargo]

ty ty

[buoyant salmon]

the crazy part is a bad aug makes keys a lot harder than they would be

with anything else

a LOT harder

[keen kindle]

and most augs are bad

[eager thorn]

i hate augs

[buoyant salmon]

i agree

and most ppl grief by inviting them

[hardy cargo]

its just practice for sales

[keen kindle]

Honestly I wish they would've just

made them an actual DPS with support flavoring

at the bottom, but still has potentional.

at least having the ability to like....out damage a tank

that'd be really cool

[serene vessel]

I don't know who Kira is, but I think the big difference maker is just how wildly bad defense balancing is this xpac. Some classes just have like almost double EHP of others

[buoyant salmon]

i think a support role is fine but they really needed to launch 3 supports or some shit at once

bc just 1 is an auto invite or useless

[summer quail]

i still think there's a chance of them doing so. aug has been incredibly hard to balance

[buoyant salmon]

now they actually have them in a good spot though ironically, after dragonflight

[keen kindle]

I genuinely think they will

[summer quail]

like if they had 90/10 split damage. 90% their own damage, 10% from others

[buoyant salmon]

aug still has points of being too op though bc they are as good as your highest dps targets are

if average dps is doing 100k but someone is bursting 300k augging them isjust infinite value

[summer quail]

90/10 would still make them more "supporty" than other classes

[serene vessel]

I wish they'd temove their defense scaling tbh

[buoyant salmon]

amplified moreso in aoe

[serene vessel]

I don't think it's ok

[buoyant salmon]

i think its fine if they bring less damage than a normal dps and keys are tuned accordingly

keys should be harder to do the damage but easier to live with an aug

easier to do the damage harder to survive without

and ideally both should be at the same key level

currently thats been proven to be true but as ppl get more geared and more tuning comes that can change

[serene vessel]

Ptoblem with that is unless all classes are equally tanky, some classes simply have to play with aug at the highest keys while others dont

Which severely limits grouping

[buoyant salmon]

not rlly true

just use externals on the squishy guy

like surv in season 3/4 shadowlands havoc in s3 if you played it

u can have 1 squishy guy in the group

2 is pretty deadge though

[serene vessel]

I didn't play bra or skands

But like first boss NW? you can simply run out of externals if ur unlucky

He casts breath too often

[keen kindle]

Yeah but people are gonna call NW "free"

Oh necrotic wake is so free easiest key of the season

[serene vessel]

I mean i think it highlights the problem well. That boss's breath does absolutely insane damage. But if you're a warrior or dk? It's free, you probably never die to it ever

[keen kindle]

because you always have a defensive for it

[serene vessel]

But mage for instance? People are having to swap to arcane because none of the other specs live it

[keen kindle]

People wonna pretend as if necrotic wake isn't an awfully designed dungeon...I'm sorry it is

[buoyant salmon]

youd have to be pretty fucking unlucky

[keen kindle]

Or have trash dps

[buoyant salmon]

if u have trash dps ur not doing real keys so ur not losing to no externals on squishy targets

[keen kindle]

You'd be surprised

[serene vessel]

I got breath 3 times in a row on my mage. I was out of CDs except for invis, but invis retargets it so in a pug if I press that I wipe it

[buoyant salmon]

thats pretty fucking unlucky lol

should pre invis it if you can in that situation though

[keen kindle]

The amount of keys I've watched Blightbone break is an amount that just shouldn't exist

[serene vessel]

I mean pre invising would just be hoping it goes on me if I press iy again

[buoyant salmon]

if youre going to die to the next one

might as well

[keen kindle]

mostly because you'll have squishy targets get roasted on a stick and then get flamed because "WHY DIDN'T YOU POP A DEFENSIVE" lmao

[serene vessel]

True, but you definitely see how that's just bad design right?

[compact knot]

fellas

how many sparks should we have this week

[serene vessel]

Ionno I'm not a fan of the current defense balancing

4

[keen kindle]

I mean yeah defensives have been power crept to fuck

ESPICALLY warrior

And DKs

But I mean....blightbone should be a pretty simple fix

[serene vessel]

I think they need to do a defensive rebalance

[compact knot]

r u sure

my mage

has 3.5

[serene vessel]

Yes

[compact knot]

am i fucked

[serene vessel]

Do quest

[compact knot]

i have

[keen kindle]

Just give out a debuff that makes you untargetable by the next cone

[olive wraith]

Then do end game content

[serene vessel]

Then do dungeons

[keen kindle]

if you get targeted by like 2

[olive wraith]

You’ll get a half

[serene vessel]

It's impossible to fall behind now

[compact knot]

i have done like 10 mythic+ dungeons this week, full cleared normal and heroic and 3/8 on mythic

game is fucked

[serene vessel]

Ok this is gonna sound dumb

But i did this too

[olive wraith]

You sure you did spark quest then?

[serene vessel]

Is this an alt you did the initial spark quest on?

The one by the catalyst?

You turn half a spark in for a full onr

[compact knot]

you might

be a genius

you are

a genius

[serene vessel]

I did same thing when I geared my mage up xd

[keen fulcrum]

You were indeed correct. lmfao

[keen kindle]

OOF

No time?

[keen fulcrum]

Oh hell no'

I'm so ass bro. lmfao

[keen kindle]

I mean hey

at least you HAD an 11

Much further then trash like me makes it

[keen fulcrum]

Oh it wasn't mine.

Was a mate's. 17 deaths total for the team but my damage was dogshit... 😅

I felt optimistic, so I was like yeah sure i'll go.

My 618 ass got turned into mince meat.

[sullen dove]

less clappa

[sudden tusk]

cant even get into an 8

these pugs need to blow up

[sullen dove]

L

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260850967708958731/1284016360896331816/fatasswizardcastslightning.gif

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[eager thorn]

Thane feels so good

[sudden tusk]

Play meta you can get into keys they said

[smoky vale]

i dont want to know what my war looks like prov 2500 prot 1800 dps

[young swan]

bricked the 12

[sullen dove]

[smoky vale]

swordish do you need 11 siege

i can tank :3

[eager thorn]

What addon is this

[keen kindle]

Dude I have a better invite rate then that holyyyy

And I'm fuckin arms wth

[sudden tusk]

its my dk alt thats like 616

but all the shitters are like 623 with hero gear and their 1 craft they scraped together and people think ilvl still matters

[eager thorn]

Ty

[keen kindle]

man

I think I need a new GPU

[smoky vale]

wow is cpu intensive?

[keen kindle]

Blizzard gives crap reccomendations

Cuz I have higher then reccomended and it still runs like trash

Like wth is this 20 fps shit

[smoky vale]

have you ran the wa malware check

with the models

[keen kindle]

yeah I have

Even without addons it's not much different

Like wtf

Found out omniCD for some reason was doing a ridicious amount of CPU usagage in a fucking solo deleve

Like it's not even tracking anything it's just on

[smoky vale]

oh yeah

also maybe check wa's that are perma loaded

[keen kindle]

For testing purposes

I've deleted ALL WAs

Try sitting in Dorn

And probally not gonna notice a real change

I'd do a dungeon but ngl that sounds kinda painful

[vivid lagoon]

How come blizzard always likes to buff paladins and death nights but always nerf warriors ? 😦

[keen kindle]

Because clearly frost is balanced

[keen kindle]

I mean according to blizzard it is

[summer quail]

You mean CPU? WoW is very CPU intensive

[vivid lagoon]

Paladin barely press buttons and they always top dps

[keen kindle]

thanks I already got told that

[minor kindle]

right, so obviously fury needs more nerfs to balance it and make you feel like you're earning your raid spot

[keen kindle]

it's really weird

[vivid lagoon]

This week I am done I got all heroic bosses down and all my +10 completed it was not fun getting all those +10 done

[keen kindle]

Cuz like...I had no issues in DF and I have the same PC I did then

[vivid lagoon]

The worse mythic + this week was stone vault

Even NW was easy for some reason

[keen kindle]

I'm a masochist who likes stone vault

So...shoot me

[vivid lagoon]

The Druid tank I have in my mythic + group is just too good

[abstract flower]

hmm it would seem a 30ilvl upgrade on a wep is a big upgrade teehee shouldve rushed that quicker

[unique phoenix]

Ignore the fact that I'm incredibly stupid, should I be running Mountain Thane in M+ now compared to Slayer?

[abstract flower]

Ye

it's way more fun and better now

[vivid lagoon]

Imagine another nerf lol

[keen kindle]

Both are fun

[keen kindle]

DON'T

BLIZZARD WILL HEAR YOU

They will give us another 3% aura, and one to arms too!

[vivid lagoon]

I hope we get another nerf

lol

[unique phoenix]

Legit, I haven't touched it once yet, so this is my first time with it

[abstract flower]

they should buff smf. I want to see the panic ensue.

[unique phoenix]

They should buff SMF so hard it becomes the only viable playstyle

[vivid lagoon]

Smf should not even be a thing for fury

[abstract flower]

Im on-board

[vivid lagoon]

The cool thing about fury is the two hand weapon that we can hold

That makes us cool

[abstract flower]

ye but think about how hard blizzard worked on loot specs and how fury wars always just run arms loot spec

[vivid lagoon]

But we are shit nerfed

How about gladiators spec

Wow

[abstract flower]

thats a spec with some chest hair

[vivid lagoon]

I like your profile pic

[abstract flower]

ty Cx

[unique phoenix]

I'm still assmad about not having gladiator for arms or prot

[chilly fractal]

Gladiator still hurts my hand 10 years later

[vivid lagoon]

Gladiator was fun single target in warlords

[chilly fractal]

120 APM or some shit

[abstract flower]

wow saying that was 10 years ago really makes me feel oldge

[chilly fractal]

WoD classic is gonna be just around the corner for Gladiator enjoyers

[abstract flower]

yo wait I never thought abiout it like that

I havent played any classics since vanilla launched and just leveled. might try wod classic just for that

or we can get wod remix

[chilly fractal]

MoP remix didn’t have any different talents so I wouldn’t expect a WoD remix to have Gladiator

[abstract flower]

Oh wait ur right

I forgor about that Dx

[meager gyro]

D I D someone say S M F give it some crit and run onslaught, see what wild shit happens

[covert blaze]

no ty

[meager gyro]

I can show you sim now, SMF only behind 1.6% now TG's death is near. I just have to figure out this weird crit balance where it can extend the triple GCD windows.

[sand hazel]

guys, maybe stupid question, but is mountain thane better for m+ now ?

[meager gyro]

higher keys it's going to be the best play, anything sub 12, just play what you like

[sand hazel]

👍

[eager thorn]

Not necessarily

People are running slayer on some higher keys like siege for the burst

[mental swan]

did thane by any chance shifted strat prio even slightly?

[normal bane]

can you reflect webs or anything on ovinax

[young swan]

nah its just DR

[normal bane]

so no way to immune it

[sullen dove]

You get out of the raid and charge boss and it clears it

[young swan]

you can immune them by bladestorming while they go out

[sullen dove]

(if ur the right hero talent)

[young swan]

if ur targeted and in bladestorm nothign happens

just have 1 less thing

[normal bane]

if you charge with ppl around you will it root them

[young swan]

thats why u leap out of the group first

[sullen dove]

“You get out of the raid”

[young swan]

u can leap into the black blood

thats pretty safe

[covert blaze]

i have never casted bs the milisecond it goes on me and rooted the entire melee group

[vivid lagoon]

Just press alt+f4 and you are safe

[young swan]

neither have i

[covert blaze]

[young swan]

that has never happened

[covert blaze]

i did that like 3 times by now

on heroic

[young swan]

send me some of your millions

only have 600k

very poor

i will be your ekitten

meow

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/trade-offer-gif-21546586

[static rock]

Are any of the timewalking raid trinkets any good?

[meager gyro]

can someone link me their super TG 5m 1 target sim ? I need to check something and don't feel like building a gross TG toon in sims

[smoky vale]

you need prison not tg

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66eb9089e01921e27b35b5ff/4x.gif

[unique phoenix]

Did a 9 stonevault with thane and man... It feels so weird compared to slayer lmao, but my burst was nutty.

[meager gyro]

yeah you treat bloodthrist a lil better b/c of the TB procs, but really in ST you don't want to change much. If you're playing ravager, opener very important for that intial burst in AoE and you'll sustain most of the burst so it FEELS pumpa

[young swan]

running an 11 SV with famous liquid warrior (1 tier) rafkar

[gilded pawn]

play with the pros

[covert blaze]

burst of power is kinda fun on th ane

[brittle crow]

what target count do we fill with tclap instead of rb

[south kayak]

2 probably

[covert blaze]

free ww stacks fuck good

[gilded pawn]

tc?

[fading sky]

1

Its a clap

Clap wins

[gilded pawn]

im fairly sure tc is still bottom filler

[fading sky]

Sound + awesomeness

[gilded pawn]

no?

[fading sky]

Makes it better

[gusty cloak]

this breakdown looking okay? 626 war in a 11

[fading sky]

In reality just refresh if proc is up send

[eager thorn]

St yes

Iirc it’s prio over execute and rb in aoe

[gilded pawn]

ill need to take a look

cuz that doesnt sound right

rb stacks bloodcraze and slaughtering strikes

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/bjiZy.gif

[young swan]

a lot closer than it was before

[fading sky]

M8 we arent, red class

[young swan]

honestly i couldve beat him

but there were some unforch pulls

and I died to melees in one

[eager thorn]

[summer quail]

No meld. Troll race L

[frosty ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/lich-king-lich-king-patrick-patrcik-star-lich-king-patrick-star-gif-23536793

[normal bane]

I think ret is probably the best pug dps for keys

No playing around pulls

Just blast all the time

[tardy axle]

still get fucking womped by ret

[normal bane]

Plus they just dele small adds in every pull

Delete

[tidal kindle]

Bro you are a freak for having your meter like this

https://tenor.com/y953.gif

[lament hinge]

fury keeps going down

[young swan]

[sly zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-jim-carrey-gif-15318144

[eager thorn]

fury keeps going up

[arctic sinew]

Jumpscare inc, don't die from PTSD

[summer quail]

We're used to it

[sour cloak]

between skarmoak shard and mark of khadros which is better?

mark is more burst dps right?

skarmoak is more sustain i imagine

[lament hinge]

worth it if u keep up the buff else just use mark

[clever belfry]

he kinda right tho my king

[arctic sinew]

If i'm enraged i'd roar first

[clever belfry]

Usually roar first is better, but it doesn't matter too much

[rigid sorrel]

You COULD use OF first if you think the adds won't live 10 seconds to get the full duration out of TR

But that's really small minmaxing - if even

[arctic sinew]

yeah

[stray pivot]

Are my stats okay? Would you change anything?

[visual ice]

what we goin for queen?

[rigid sorrel]

Generally speaking they're fine but you should sim yourself to get the best out of it

[stray pivot]

I've seen a lot of differences between top Fury Warriors worldwide. Some have a lot of Mastery, some have similar Mastery and Haste, some even go for 20% crit like total chads

I'm just perplexed

[arctic sinew]

Depends a lot what kind of myth track gear u get

[rigid sorrel]

Statweights for fury warrior are very close to each other once you hit certain tresholds

[arctic sinew]

Ppl just sim and use what sims best

[rigid sorrel]

This.

[stray pivot]

Something I'd like to get to understand better. Are the changes that are coming good or bad for us?

I see Slayer getting kind of nerfed and Blizz trying to make us use the other option more

But I don't know if I'm understanding it properly

[arctic sinew]

Am buffed = more fun

OF/Roar nerf = less dmg

[sour cloak]

if im placing an order to craft charged claymore, does the quality of the materials matter?

for ilevel

[stray pivot]

It does for quality of the weapon

Hence, for ilvl too

[cobalt silo]

so as far as mountain thane rotation goes, my only question is in single target, do we still use base thunderclap as a part of the rotation? or do you only use thunderblast procs in single target

obv aoe its irrelavent as you just use it on cd basically

[arctic sinew]

Just think of TC as taking slam/wws part of ur rotation

[cobalt silo]

so just a filler without procs?

[sour cloak]

all the mats are max quality and im using enchanted runed crest, but ilevel is locked at 606. how do i make it go up to 619?

[stray pivot]

If you're using the right crest and request for it to be quality 5, then it should be made that way by the Blacksmith

[barren coral]

you make it a personal order, not public

personal order cant make myth track

[fresh ivy]

yo what dungeon is this from? i swear im only getting max 1.2 overalls :< could be gear diff or premade big pulls but ye 😄

[sour cloak]

OHH I GOT IT

[sour cloak]

thanks

[barren coral]

np

tip no more than 50g

first month is out crafters made enough money

[stray pivot]

Hurts when you're the guy who (whenever asked for a price) always says ''at will my brother'' and they only leave 50g

[barren coral]

guys

really quick

is the soak on ulgrax mythic

specifically BEFORE he does the attack

vacuuming the main target on him?

[stray pivot]

IDK, sorry

Actually going to try Mythic next week with some luck

[barren coral]

bro

do the first 2

if u have AOTC

theyre piss easy and its a free myth track

[stray pivot]

I'm 7/8 H at the moment, I'm afraid

I just need to get Ansurek

[crude gate]

anyone crunched the numbers on AM builds for 11.0.5?

[barren coral]

yes AM better

[crude gate]

you got numbers?

[barren coral]

no

[golden hare]

you can have my numbers (w rizz)

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-type-shit-gif-14245019280342223349

[clever belfry]

no rizz sorry

[golden hare]

[smoky vale]

😦

[sick horizon]

will dracthyr be best race for fury or naw

for that 1.5% mastery

[fading sky]

I mean im in

[fading bane]

The Dracthyr CC + Wings are the best part about the race

[noble yew]

is it worth switching to drachtyr as warrior? been thinking about either drachtyr or dwarf

[arctic sinew]

couldn't imagine swapping to dracthyr

holy

[noble yew]

why?

[warm crag]

i dont think you need the wings as a warrior

[slim pollen]

As far as I know, you don't even need to be in dragon form while fighting as other classes than evoker, right?

[noble yew]

they have an ability where u can swap form to dracthry human or ugly dragon i think

[fading sky]

• id never switch to dorf either

[noble yew]

why

[fading sky]

Looks shit when swinging

[verbal rivet]

Weapons aren’t as big, and they nerfed lizard kit on non Evoker

[clever belfry]

i do

chessmate

[warm crag]

Stop owning me!

[ionic bone]

I've been wondering about a cheat sheet that shows all spells that can be reflected and I found this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQQCkBEkOadsvO4sTphB1RwzC6Z_3kq00IFaBrCk5Eagz2Jeoox7D7Rk3XwXMINbh4lUg9Vr-3RgoB2/pubhtml#

[cerulean badger]

Fellow clappers, I am once again in Need of your assistance. The m+ Burst is so messy to me. Do you go charge - avatar reck - blast - ravager and then Alternate rampage and cb while filling in Roar and OF?

[ionic bone]

can we pin it somewhere, so it can be visible for everyone interested

[noble yew]

ohh u cant even race change to drachtyr?

[arctic sinew]

why wouldn't you roar together with avatar/reck?

[mild iris]

dudes is there some secret issue with mists trash? twice in a row now, +9 and +8 tank gets deleted during the maze

[warm crag]

is this a bit or are you unaware

[snow edge]

The guardians slap from memory, they gotta be prepared

[ionic bone]

what do u mean?

[noble yew]

also noticed this. no issue last week or b4 that. now i just see them melt

[warm crag]

its in #dps-faq, used to be pinned here aswell before pins got moved to that channel

[mild iris]

like 4th or 5th pack in the maze, decent looking tanks just get clapped

I guess last week it wasnt fortified, for us plebs not doing 10s

[warm crag]

the guardians put bad bleeds on the tanks ye very painful

[oblique trail]

Explode

[warm crag]

rude??????????

[clever belfry]

anima slashus big blast

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

rights abuser

yellow privilege

[oblique trail]

All for a good cause

[clever belfry]

that's also what the colonisers said

[orchid dagger]

Man I love my casinos

[nocturne oyster]

Hey, where should i want my dps to be about on single target with like 620 ilvl? 🙂

[wraith sparrow]

What is the best option to sim for m+`? is dung slice viable option?

[uneven plaza]

How the F do you reflect Putrid Waters from the Last boss in Siege?

[hard widget]

You dont

[uneven plaza]

[plush flower]

Rng, I’ve done it before but idk how to replicate it

Probably reflect before the putrid waters actually leaves the boss

And not while it’s already traveling

[hard widget]

If they couldnt replicate it, i wouldnt get ur hopes up

[uneven plaza]

Time to grief some keys (for science ofc)

[hard widget]

Just test it on m0 🙂

[warm crag]

@tidal kindle has yet to prove this works!

[sage valley]

do we have a different stat prio as thane fury? it seems crit is simulating a lot higher

Crit=Mastery>Vers>Haste? 🤔

[clever belfry]

never follow a simple prio like this
appears you are simming already - so just do that

[sage valley]

yup alright 🙂

[warm frost]

help guys
I just joined a key and someone said
this is oce, you good with that
what do they mean!?

[unreal shell]

They might be based in Australia or something and have real shitty lag

[verbal kelp]

figured I'd ask here instead :
Howdy, what do you do in NW+11 if you get 2 heaving retch back to back on first boss?
First is ER/DBTS, second is shout+defensive stance, but I still die for about 1.4m overkill. Had this issue on both arms and fury. Any advice?
Do I just have to expect my healer to give me external or accept that Ill die without any play?

[azure meadow]

Take a prot warrior and let them intervene every one

[smoky vale]

you just need an external

[azure meadow]

[young glacier]

U shouldnt die with with def stance + shout i think

[azure meadow]

Or shadowmeld

[young glacier]

Did u heal urself before skill?

[smoky vale]

you should check notevenclose

[young glacier]

And spell reflect?

[verbal kelp]

idk, I'm 623 ilv, shits hit for 7.9m in +10, 8.2m in +11

[young glacier]

Spell reflect + deff stance should be enough

And uve it always

[smoky vale]

https://not-even-close.com @verbal kelp

[verbal kelp]

thanks!

forgot I could play MT now to get 8% dr

[young glacier]

Remember sthelios

Stay enraged

Reduces damage too

[verbal kelp]

ye fair enough I might've lost the uptime on that one

I'll give it a shot

Thanks alot lads

[barren coral]

they should make this into a wa that immediately suggests which button to press in order to live

[young glacier]

ur welcome

[azure meadow]

i don't think wretch is magic dam

im pretty sure it's physical

because DBTS immunes it

[barren coral]

is shadow dmg counting as magic?

[clever belfry]

stuff can be magic but dbts can parry it

[clever belfry]

yes

[azure meadow]

oh

interesting

[clever belfry]

It depends on the attack type, not spell school

which are just two seperate things

[smoky vale]

have you ever heard of kaze mrt

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66eb9089e01921e27b35b5ff/4x.gif

[clever belfry]

(me when shadowstrike, which is shadow magic and physical)

[smoky vale]

what is umbral rush

magic

[clever belfry]

probs shadow

🤷‍♂️ tho

[young glacier]

And now thunder blast gives dmg red%

[smoky vale]

that cast

[clever belfry]

Don't play that talent

play the 5% stam and IV max health talent

its just better (for fury) 👍

[young glacier]

Yeah i like it too. Freaking good healing haha

[barren coral]

it would be cool of dmg types or spell schools even existed as a mention inside of the game

[smoky vale]

the journal exists

[barren coral]

where is that

only journal i have is the pet journal

[smoky vale]

shift j is default bind

[clever belfry]

Tooltips stell you the spell school

[barren coral]

this all i got

[smoky vale]

go to dungeons

[barren coral]

i dont mean

literal dmg type of abilities

but things like shadow dmg counting as magic dmg

is fire magic? frost magic? is anything else phys besides phys?

[smoky vale]

bleed

maybe

[clever belfry]

I mean i think its quite obvious shadow damage is magic damage

You cant explain everything in the smallest detail to the player, cause where do you stop

do you lay out every single rng mechanism in the game too?

No.

[eternal sundial]

game does not clarify is holystrike damage is magic smh

[smoky vale]

hi phil :3

[eternal sundial]

holystrike mentioned in 2 abilities total

alo

[clever belfry]

stormstrike!!

[eternal sundial]

me when spellshadow damage

[smoky vale]

i think im going to level a dh or ww

want to play another melee

[eternal sundial]

or just play less wow

[quiet geyser]

Just do DK

Or ret

And win

[smoky vale]

nah why would i do that

[orchid dagger]

Non-Phys is Magic
Bleed is Physical

[sour cloak]

is there a cheat sheet to see what mythic+ abilities i can spell reflect?

[quiet geyser]

Always found that a lil silly from an rpg standpoint. Armor somehow affects how much dmg you take from bleeding, like you're wolverine out here pumped with titanium

[smoky vale]

in #protection pinned

[oblique trail]

@warm crag

Explode

[orchid dagger]

They didn't stab deep enough

[oblique trail]

@gleaming siren ||||