fury

[hard widget]

Logs show u total time spend in dungeon, which is bait

[oblique trail]

So it shows actual relevant uptime

[proud leaf]

ah

42% then

[fading bane]

Friend of mine looted a sac and was insta offered 700k for it

[proud leaf]

lol

[oblique trail]

How do you meet these people

[hard widget]

Yeah i need some of those

Good money maker

[proud leaf]

700k is such a weird number i expect that's probably all the gold he had

[fading bane]

Idk

Wish i met that guy

Im poor

Ingame

Its also a spammable dungeon

If it was a raid item sure ig

[tidal kindle]

Biggest robbery I did was week 2 nyalotha

Socketed coral for 250k

[fading bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702976539725398087/1294352624124166277/image.png?ex=670b5c11&is=670a0a91&hm=9152a37e5689bb8eb479191d5fa8ddc4a5b9719742f2040a42a5336df46bdaf6&

[tidal kindle]

Titanforged

[hard widget]

Paid actor

[oblique trail]

Some people just have way too much gold to ever spend ig

[fading bane]

Im just waiting for mythic boes to drop in price

My pala got 619 helm + boots

Large upgrades

[hard widget]

Plate boe's will stay expensive im afraid

Prot warrior and FDK both insanely good in the meta

[oblique trail]

FDK supposedly don't want the helmet and instead just crafts

Because crit + mast > 3 ilvl gain

[fading bane]

Plate boes just drop less i swear

[oblique trail]

Seems to be the same for their boots

Where they just craft crit/mast boots

[fading bane]

Still free upgrades

If u got hero ones

[oblique trail]

Yeye, just think those who care would prob end up crafting in those slots instead of spending millions

[clever belfry]

shoulda Just farmed them

[fading bane]

I did :)

[clever belfry]

(i never got boots nor ring gg!!!)

but holed head so....

[fading bane]

We had 2x plate drop over 12+ hours

0 rings

And we got so much leather and mail

[oblique trail]

I looted like

[fading bane]

That we ended up lacking ppl

[oblique trail]

3 cloths pieces and 1 mail piece I think

[fading bane]

Scheming game

[hard widget]

🥄

[oblique trail]

Not much of a spoon if I get nothing for it..

(Personally)

[hard widget]

Oh u got em when raid bound

Eta gg

[oblique trail]

yes

[fading bane]

Ive never been this far behind in gear smh

[hard widget]

Whats ur ilvl

[fading bane]

Made it easier for me to go pala tho

[hard widget]

And out of all classes why paladin xd

[clever belfry]

Cause ret good

[fading bane]

626 without using this weeks crests

My pala is 626.6

Pala is insane atm

[clever belfry]

noob?

[fading bane]

And very needed for mythic ansurek

[hard widget]

That isnt too far behind

[flat river]

Wtf how is that behind

Im 620

[fading bane]

Far behind compared to my usual

[clever belfry]

its below average for people at his prog

[hard widget]

At that point ur doing something wrong

[flat river]

I dont do mythic raiding

Only heroic and mythic+

[hard widget]

Even without doing mythic raiding

3x vault + crafted 636 and hc crests are done bynow

Already puts u above 620

[flat river]

Well

[hard widget]

Unless u fucked up

[flat river]

Getting invited to high keys is hard

[civic falcon]

Didnt do my 2nd Crafted yet since other upgrades with crests sims higher

But still u would go above 620

[next mica]

u cant fuck up 100% he just didint do enough +9's

[flat river]

I just made my first 636 crafted item this week

[smoky vale]

do your own?

[flat river]

I do

But

Finding a group is also hard

[hard widget]

I saw u in oblivion signing to +10 boosts

🤔

[flat river]

No?

Max i did was a +7

And that was like

Week 2

[civic falcon]

Jev my bro, did you get Ovinaxx down?

[flat river]

I stopped so i could rise in rating a bit

[hard widget]

Not yet

Monday i hope kekw

[hard widget]

Must have seen it wrong

[flat river]

I did a ++9 dawnbreaker a few days ago

[hard widget]

But even without doing +9's

[civic falcon]

Crossing fingers my Saiyan brother🤞

[flat river]

And got a +11 NW

[hard widget]

U should be above 620 ilvl

[civic falcon]

We start progress on Kyveza sunday

[hard widget]

By just upgrading everything that was 613

[drifting pond]

Banezi dont brick my gb pls

[hard widget]

And crafting

[flat river]

I tried to do it but we failed at first pull because healer didn't lust

[smoky vale]

Im 612 on my evoker with 1 vault

[hard widget]

Oeh nice! glgl

[smoky vale]

0 crests spent

[flat river]

Im a bench with my guild

So i do some mythic raiding

But i don't get items

[civic falcon]

tyvm ❤️

[flat river]

Only vault

[smoky vale]

Maybe new guild time

[flat river]

I mean it was by choice ngl

[narrow narwhal]

practice and read up

[flat river]

Nah i chose bench

Was in the roster

[hard widget]

If u dont raid, then ur gonna be lower ilvl by default

[flat river]

But i have uni and need to focus

[hard widget]

But still if u follow the Larias thing

Even without raiding u can be about 623 now

[flat river]

I still don't have curve

[hard widget]

(considering u didnt take myth track vaults)

[smoky vale]

me either xd

I have 0 curve

[flat river]

Only mythic item i have is ara-kara sacbrood

Which is big

[smoky vale]

I got 1600 first week so game was playable

[hard widget]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/preview?pli=1&tab=t.0

[smoky vale]

I got 1 item from raid that was impactful

[flat river]

Ill read it

[civic falcon]

So youre putting 0 effort in gear progress and complain about not getting above 620? Am I understanding that correctly=

[hard widget]

Just do what this doc says

[next mica]

@civic falconcorrect

[hard widget]

I dont think he was complaining to be fair

[oblique trail]

huh

[warm crag]

why would you do this to my gb banezi?

[narrow narwhal]

Now that gilded crests drop from 8s ill just keep spamming GB as prot since its the only one I have some semblence of a route for

[smoky vale]

so fucked up

[warm crag]

im so upset gilded crests drop from +8s now grr!!!

[smoky vale]

true

[narrow narwhal]

Brick it

[smoky vale]

make vault and crests only drop from 12s

[oblique trail]

Idk I'll hold W and follow whatever the tank will do and press buttons

If we brick it's not on me

[smoky vale]

make everyone suffer

[drifting pond]

blame healer

[polar remnant]

we will smash dont worry

[drifting pond]

im scared of a prot pally

[hard widget]

So that 99% of the community cant get it?

[flat river]

I basically did the exact thing he said

[smoky vale]

yes 🙂

[civic falcon]

Thats a bit too harsh. I could go with +10

[hard widget]

Then u should be higher than 620 ilvl

[flat river]

Except i got my free set piece from reaching 1600 pvp rating

And got 2 set pieces from raid

And 1 from vault

All heroic

[smoky vale]

hm

[flat river]

Cause im that good

[smoky vale]

wtf no 2p mythic

noob

[flat river]

I had set piece week 2

4-set*

[civic falcon]

Are you spending your crests ?

[flat river]

Yes

[civic falcon]

What ilvl are you at?

[flat river]

All my items are 619

Except crafted

And neck

And trinket

My wrist is 636 and my cloak is 619

My neck is max hero track

Cause i got raid neck from vault and used it to max out the stonevault neck

Since there was nothing else good

[smoky vale]

?

you got the sikran and are not using it?

[civic falcon]

Im confused

[flat river]

Yes

[civic falcon]

What

[smoky vale]

?????

[tidal kindle]

[flat river]

It sims worse

For some reason

[smoky vale]

[civic falcon]

Probably because of other gear pieces stats etc

[flat river]

Idk if it's because it doesn't consider the vers proc or what

It sims better in ST

But worse in MT

[civic falcon]

Then you should use it

[flat river]

I use it in raid

[civic falcon]

Always go after st

Even in m+ ST is important

[flat river]

Well m+ is 70% trash...

And fortified...

[civic falcon]

And the vers boost makes you beefier too for trash aoe/casts etc

You want to survive

[flat river]

Maybe

Ill re-sim

[civic falcon]

How much worse does it sim?

[flat river]

Like

5k

And 1k better in ST

[civic falcon]

Yeah fuck the 5k idk. the higher the key gets the more you benefit from the neck

[flat river]

Mmm

Ill re-sim when i get back home

Maybe it changed with the mountain thane build too

[civic falcon]

I would kill for that neck ngl. Especially for arms progress

[flat river]

Eww arms

[civic falcon]

Yeah maybe try and resim

[hard widget]

It probably sims lower because of the giga haste

But its definitely a really good neck

[smoky vale]

I need to kill the bug with the dumpy

[civic falcon]

It sims insane for my arms specc

[hard widget]

Ew arms

[civic falcon]

Yeah what can you do tho, have to for Kyveza

[hard widget]

"HAVE TO" ?

[civic falcon]

[narrow narwhal]

My ass can't play arms

[pearl sequoia]

you think ill get invited

[hard widget]

Why are they forcing u to play arms?

[hard widget]

💯

[radiant plank]

Playing arms on kyveza now is borderline trolling

[hard widget]

Before with the taunt dbts stuff i can understand

But now fuck no

[civic falcon]

Well i wouldnt say they ''force'' me. But i really want to get past this shitty Boss as fast as possible.
The chance i go Fury ST is like 90% if im over it after dying to Intermission cause of squishy

Haha

[flat river]

I resimmed

[radiant plank]

Well

its a survive fight

not more damage fight

[flat river]

Its 8k worse in MT

[radiant plank]

play fury be happy

[hard widget]

Probably because of ur stats

[civic falcon]

Hm maybe I should try since i got the transmitter too on wednesday

[civic falcon]

Would play it anyway

[flat river]

And 600 worse in ST

[civic falcon]

The extra vers combined with the DR from Thane makes you probably beefy af

[flat river]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/87NPXjNGPYcdoij6nfVH5V

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mpuqnSermtbtZF3ni4Hady

First one is ST

2nd one is MT

I used gear compare cause im not home

And top gear doesn't let me choose my character

[hard widget]

I believe you

But like i said, its probably because of ur stats

[flat river]

I have 24% haste and 40% mastery

Or 40 something%

Something like that

[civic falcon]

Probably because youre simming with Lust no?

Try and sim it without lust

[flat river]

Let me check

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m2fKiuAo4pWzNb1own432j

64 behind in MT

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uppKEznSrg2pFtE4BfkgRP

167 ahead in ST

[hard widget]

Sim 1.5 min 5 targets btw, instead of 5min 5 targ

[flat river]

Not that much of a difference

[flat river]

Ok

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5VZTsKr5aj7D8dU418JN8u

1.5k behind

[hard widget]

It was meant as like for you

Just do whatever ur sim tells u i guess

Only look at uptime from the neck in the sims

[tidal kindle]

So

1.5k vs

Giving healer mana

[still ibex]

It's not 5 tar

[tidal kindle]

Idk

I'd go w/ the mana

You won't notice 1.5k dps

You'll notice your healer having to drink more often

[flat river]

Let me resim

[civic falcon]

Yeah me too

[tidal kindle]

🤷

[civic falcon]

Garms is right

[flat river]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3Myg2eLA9a6duypsVxiehx

Lmao 12k behind

[tidal kindle]

.4%

🤷

[flat river]

But my parse

[tidal kindle]

[flat river]

:(

Im keeping it with me in my inventory

[civic falcon]

Damn he trolled us all the way

[flat river]

Wdym

[hard widget]

U dont raid xd

[flat river]

I do but heroic

And rarely mythic >:(

Im raiding next monday

2nd mythic boss

Cause the warrior can't come

I'm the backup warrior

[dense quartz]

Better go arms then

[flat river]

Ew

[civic falcon]

Time to become the main warrior

Man up Son

[flat river]

I was

I swear

I stepped down

[pearl sequoia]

oh no...

[flat river]

I can show u the convo i had with the GM xD

[hard widget]

Ur guild looking for a new main warrior?

[flat river]

AHAHA

[dense quartz]

Lmao

[hard widget]

xD

[civic falcon]

Hahaha fuck you, but we looking actually for a 2nd good one

You wanna come?

[hard widget]

Oh damn

But how can i ever compete with you Cesuna

[flat river]

I have a hard time leaving guilds

I get so attached

[civic falcon]

Mate, imma start a new job from the 1/11, then my time to game cuts down and there may be days where i cant raid, so would be a pleasure to have a 2nd good warrior you can relay on

[hard widget]

Attached to what? The bench?

[flat river]

Yes

Nah but fr

[hard widget]

Oh damn, that sucks to hear man

[pearl sequoia]

fr water boy status

[flat river]

The people i befriend there are so fun

[pearl sequoia]

you can stil be friends with them and be in a different guild

[flat river]

Idk i feel bad when i leave

Cause i joined last season

Planning to raid mythic with them

[hard widget]

Depends on ur plans Gala

The reality is, if you want to achieve something u cant really become attached

[tidal kindle]

You can be friends w/o being in same guild

You can't progress raiding w/o being in same guild

[radiant plank]

Wise words from the pro

[flat river]

I mean GM told me i can join next season to main roster if i end up free

[fresh ivy]

yo, anyone able to help me out with sim?

confused by the sim profile stuff linked further up

[smoky vale]

[flat river]

It's not that I don't wanna raid

Just i don't have time

[smoky vale]

thats also okay 🙂

[clever belfry]

Easy to lose wow friends when swapping guilds tbf
but then again, couldn't have been to meaningful then anyhow

[smoky vale]

mhmhm

[flat river]

Guys i made a domino effect by accident

[steel shard]

Lol no

No alts?

M+ gaming

[flat river]

So like i have a group of friends who i play with but they only play private servers cause they broke

[smoky vale]

usually if you quit a guild you take your alts as well

[flat river]

I bought one of them the game and he buys sub with gold

Then 2 others bought the game and did the same thing

Then we put up a pot of gold to buy our 2 other friends the game

And thats how i now have 11 irl friends playing the game

Who don't wanna make a guild and raid

And just play m+

XD

Funny thing is we have 2 tanks and 2 healers and the rest are dps

So we could make an 11 man raid xD

[desert cloud]

I feel the same way abt raiding the only reason i raid is bcz of loot

Otherwise it's just not fun to raid imo

Simple mechanics bad visual clutter people holding me or the rest back and i have no power on that matter

[flat river]

Why is it a video tf

[polar remnant]

embed failure laugh at this user

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[clever belfry]

absolutely missed the point, didn't expect anything else 👍

[rapid stag]

Would #showtooltip Recklessness
/cast Recklessness
/Use cast Avatar work?

[smoky vale]

it would be /cast again

not /use cast

[tired brook]

hoooly

[rapid stag]

aah nice,

thanks!

[worldly cave]

#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/use 13
/cast Avatar

[rough cape]

Should I just stack mastery

Having problems doing anything over 800 k overall in m+

[smoky vale]

sim yourself

we cannot compute which stats are better for you like the robot can

[warm crag]

stacking mastery wont fix an 800k overall

[smoky vale]

more likely than not its your rotation

[eternal sundial]

spongus i have 7958 versa 5107 mastery how many overall do i gain swapping these

we dont talk abt 15k crit fury

[jovial coral]

bfa fury

[heavy dock]

How does one achieve such a messy stat spread lol

[small scarab]

we gain pretty much equale value from bouth mastery and haste anyhow and if you feel like you are to hasty just swap out the frenzied rage for powerfull enrage, there are many options to balance yourself

[brittle phoenix]

Don't lie to me Spongus

[wanton junco]

Am I fucking up or something? I'm playing with a mate and he is an equally geared ret pally (616ish), I surpass him in single target bosses but he absolutely sends me in AOE and total damage in Mythic plus. I thought thane was good for aoe and shit for single target so I gotta be doing something wrong right?

[small scarab]

no that is correct, ret paladins are just like that.

and survival hunters

and deathknights, shamans...

Look at the number one ability damage delt in his arsenal and you'd probebly find it to be divine storm, it's 1 click aoe that deals more then our rotation and is spamable.

[forest owl]

yeah same picture for me, beat them on bosses, not on trash a lot of the time, during full cds i can beat them, sometimes not, guess it depends on the ret

[wanton junco]

are we a bad class?

[sour frigate]

[last falcon]

we fiiiine just a bit more buffing on thane we gucci

[small scarab]

buffing..hah ya that'd be great

na nerf bladestorm some more, it's needed

[last falcon]

i do feel like we will see a better time in m+ when the AM changes come in

[flat river]

@hard widget im home and these are my stats

[last falcon]

where the gems at ?

[flat river]

rings are champion

too expensive to put gems in

[small scarab]

Just got to ride the storm out, for better or worse at the start of an expasion warrior dps was never good, this has by far been the best possiton we have been in at the start of an expack in a long time.

[forest owl]

that's a D- right there

[last falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-dudu-bubu-dudu-love-dudu-bubu-love-dudu-love-bubu-love-dudu-bubu-gif-388489720610011907

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/tkthao219-bubududu-peach-goma-gif-25207844

[teal badge]

Weird question, but does anyone know why CB over BB after rampages (vs BB over CB) as Thane?
Seems like thane bloodthirsts/bloodbaths slap

[small scarab]

beacuse the 35% proc chanse to buff yout thunderclap in to Thunderblast

when you cast bloodbath / bloodthirst

[flat river]

he's asking why

[small scarab]

oh right

[flat river]

u press crushing blow

over bloodbath

[modest condor]

because you're gonna press the bloodbath anyway and if you crushing blow first it gets buffed

[small scarab]

mainly beacuse Cb/Rb buff other abilitys in your kit and the set bonus

[limpid geode]

If i have horrible raid luck should i just spark craft a ring?

[teal badge]

Gotcha, forgot about our tierset. Thanks!

[modest condor]

not just tierset, there is also bloodcraze

[small scarab]

Been cosidering that ring craft myself, as there are very few rings with a high mastery - low haste ratio, as a third craft option i would see it viable

[teal badge]

I imagine BB over CB then in execute? Or do you still CB first?

[tidal kindle]

#fury message

CB has many amps for ST BB

@modest condor idk the math on aoe priorities though

[teal badge]

tyty

[ornate gust]

Repeat after me: Fury warriors are fine... fury warriors are fine

[flat river]

just raid and you'll beat them

easy

[oblique trail]

If only it was as easy to beat them, as just having more gear

But any ret, enhance, fdk, assa rogue (at least) with hands can beat you

[flat river]

wiser words have never been said

[mossy fox]

ret seems to own in ST now too

[tidal kindle]

Templar buff big

From what I hear

[mossy fox]

yeah

[oblique trail]

Definitely what was missing from them I think

Good on them

[flat river]

hello Critcake

[mossy fox]

hello stronkmon

[flat river]

[bitter palm]

why is every spec good at both st and aoe nowadays

like at the same time

[midnight kite]

probably hero talents

It would make sense for them to design it like that as the average player probably loads up 1 build and never changes

[queen linden]

Wait, pallys blasting in keys? Nerf warrior again just to be safe.

[bitter palm]

then make us insane at pure st

[midnight kite]

Warrior gets nerfed till their niche is balanced sorry

[bitter palm]

like i hate this argument that fury cant be good at st cause of imp ww

[queen linden]

Gotta admit tho, the thane buff has been pretty nice in keys. Very easy to sustain decent DPS throughout the whole dungeon.

[bitter palm]

ok just reduce the % then?

[midnight kite]

I still cant get over their nerfing warbreaker

actually clueless lmao

[unreal onyx]

I find it funny that blizz decides to make the raid almost perfect for fury just to then nerf it to the ground

Bc they do what they are supposed to

[barren coral]

we are so back

[tidal kindle]

B for back

[flat river]

REAL

[tidal kindle]

A for accepted... soon

[bitter palm]

how is arms so low

[tidal kindle]

[bitter palm]

no one playing it or

[tidal kindle]

Yah

[barren coral]

we're no longer competing with aug/sub/spriest

if thats not back, idk what is

[bitter palm]

sub players are noobs

[tidal kindle]

Imagine an unnerfed fury

[bitter palm]

that spec is not bad at all

[tidal kindle]

It's same thing

Why play sub when sin is so much better

All the good rogues can play both

[bitter palm]

yep

[midnight kite]

The thing thats kinda funny is when the "AM buffs" (BT/RB buffs) come in they are making us better at the one boss we arguably dont need buffs on

[bitter palm]

sub prio is unreal as trickster but assa prio is unreal too while doing 2x more aoe

[barren coral]

sin feels pretty sluggish but taht doesnt matter in m+ where u just sit with the camera 2d above you and click on plates

[calm hemlock]

Actually got my shard for that price yday YEP

[bitter palm]

ME WHEN I HAVE TO BP ON ST INSTEAD OF COUP

I LOVE WORLD OF WARCRAFT

[heavy folio]

so with vicious contempt bloodbath>crushing blow when mob is below 35%?

[calm hemlock]

Can i get a link to that pls ?

[heavy dock]

are engi bracers worth crafting? they are simming the highest for me rn

i saw the tinkers are pretty shit

[fading sky]

also arms has rather bad Dmg

[warm crag]

idk just farm some decent ones from m+ or

[fading sky]

Only craft if u wanna CR no ?

[warm crag]

dont need it

cr item is usable by everyone

[fading sky]

ok

no difference these days?

i havent kept up with TWW CR

[warm crag]

its just a lot of 1 stat of your choosing

[fading sky]

whats the name of the cr item ? 😄

i might as well stack up on em then 🙂

[oblique trail]

jumper cables

[digital mauve]

when will the tier set bonus will be buffed?

[oblique trail]

It already is

[eternal sundial]

@oblique trailwhy does thane stink so hard

[tidal kindle]

Pile on

[oblique trail]

pile on

[oblique trail]

idk about to do a key without OF

[eternal sundial]

Pile on

[oblique trail]

It probably still feels dog

maybe even worse

[eternal sundial]

like no OF build ive found to need ww keybound

which is not fun

i think i just pref slayer arm at that point

for st dam

[digital mauve]

oh it's arleady buffed, okey...

[tame totem]

is mountain thane better than slayer now?

[tidal kindle]

Or clap

[drifting bear]

in M+ yeah for more sustain aoe dps

[eternal sundial]

clap+ww keybound i meant

[flint otter]

in M+, yes.

Personally, I was getting about 1.25m max on Slayer in dungeons - Thane I'm getting like 1.5-1.75m.

under optimal circumstances

[oblique trail]

I have yet to see that big of a disparity in any of my keys

[tame totem]

Ty for quick answer guys

[flint otter]

For me it's been notable - my downtime is way higher than it used to be

[barren coral]

anyone here who has done DB+10 or higher?

[flint otter]

Yep

only 10

Timed it though

[barren coral]

2 q's, why is my spell reflect WA showing those purple 1 shot frontals as REFLECTABLE, and also, wtf am i supposed to do against that 20-30s cooldown 7m dot the elites are casting before the 2nd boss

like i can pop a defensive for one of them

but 2nd is BARELY manageable

[flint otter]

Yeah, the Black Edge spell reflect is super weird - I've never been brave enough to test if it ACTUALLY reflects.

[barren coral]

it doesnt

you die

yw

[flint otter]

ty for sacrificing yourself for science.

[barren coral]

somehow timed this shit with 10 deaths

team deaths i only died on purpose

[flint otter]

I Rallying Cry, switch to defensive, enraged regen and pray to god.

Also use your Impending's wisely

[quiet geyser]

They're basically the same for m+

[barren coral]

no

[flint otter]

I've seen a drastic uptick in DPS since the switch

[modest condor]

i deleted the black edge weakaura

[flint otter]

like a massive one

[barren coral]

like genuinely huge

[flint otter]

bingus, if you will

[quiet geyser]

Yes

[barren coral]

we did not go from 3rd worst m+ dps

to middle of the pack

using prayers

[hard widget]

We're meta

[flint otter]

I wouldn't go that far

[barren coral]

is that the name of the purple frontal?

[neon kite]

anyone have the plater pack that critcake uses

[flint otter]

but, my DPS has improved by a shitload

[flint otter]

yes

[neon kite]

i just want a plater pack that shows dangerous mobs and stuff

[flint otter]

i gotchu

[barren coral]

id use to get like 200k dps behind the pally who died 4 times more than me, now im pretty much always 1st on the list unless i get some 2.7k god to carry my key

[flint otter]

https://wago.io/ak3iS95aa jundies is goated for this

[flint otter]

same

[neon kite]

lets go thank you so much

[flint otter]

you bet

[quiet geyser]

This is legit in your head. By the end of the key both are pretty equal. Obviously what key, and comp you're using plays a big roll.

Dont forget, compared to last week, most people are 3-4+ ilvl higher, AND this weeks affix is a shit ton better than last weeks

[barren coral]

you understand those things affect not just warriors, but the wow playerbase right?

[flint otter]

Do you have data that backs up your claim?

[barren coral]

ofc he does bro

[oblique trail]

You can reflect the abyssal blasts from the mini bosses btw

[barren coral]

he just needs to reach very far up to get it first

[quiet geyser]

You understand people are comparing their dps to last week, hence my statement.

[flint otter]

I've ran 8+ keys this week, and ilvl is basically the same as last week

[oblique trail]

Assuming you don't get target twice, you should have SR for each of them

[barren coral]

nobody does taht

[quiet geyser]

Wtf data do you want? Lol

[flint otter]

Data that shows that the DPS is the same in M+

when I've seen it personally improve dramatically

Not just some finger-in-the-air theory

[oblique trail]

From personal experience, I've had both great performance as Thane and Slayer

None of them way higher than the other

a 500k disparity is genuinely unheard of

[quiet geyser]

Maybe you just play thane better? If you're doing 10~ keys, they're about the same performance

[barren coral]

well no one is calling for 500k diff

[oblique trail]

Com is?

[heavy folio]

my first thane fury key, rampage top 1 is normal or am I pressing it too much?

[barren coral]

i dont think there is any hero talent spec that can do that

[barren coral]

are we seeing the same discussion?

[flint otter]

My max under optimal circumstances was 1.75 - which was the most i'd seen period

I did say that, Banezi is right

[quiet geyser]

Think so. You and com are just on the copium hype

[digital mauve]

I'm curious tooo

[barren coral]

i have no idea what it takes to be so confidently wrong and also not realise ur in the minority on this

[flint otter]

lmao bro, @quiet geyser you are presenting zero data to back up your claim

[random raptor]

I'm getting anywhere between 1.6-1.8m average with both, they're very similar

[oblique trail]

I've done plenty of keys this week as well as both Slayer and Thane, and while Thane has been slightly better overall, I've yet to see it be miles ahead of Slayer

[barren coral]

no stats, no tracking, no curated opinions

[heavy folio]

can someone link their details from a thane key to compare?

[barren coral]

this guy simply knows

[flint otter]

but hey, i really dgaf

[oblique trail]

(This was with Vicious Contempt, CB and BB is usually closer)

From a +10 Mists

But generally this is a typical breakdown for me

[quiet geyser]

What do you mean the minority lmao? 2 random players telling me thane is miles ahead doesn't make me the minority bro

[heavy folio]

cb is still above bloodbath even with vicious contempt?

[barren coral]

i mean ur in the minority even in this discussion alone banezi is just saying MT is just not better by a lot

but like

read around?

[oblique trail]

This was from a +9 GB without VC

Where CB and BB were basically even

BB just gets more damage from Thane than CB does

[quiet geyser]

Banezi is legit saying the difference is miniscule. Like i said previously, key lvl, group comp will literally determine which 1 outperforms

[barren coral]

yeah if ur doing +2s i think slayer will perform too

group comp has absolutely nothing to do in here, thats just saying something for the sake of saying something

[quiet geyser]

Are you dumb?

Group comp plays a massive role lol

[heavy dock]

theres a guy who played slayer in a 14 boralus so i think slayer is still ok

[barren coral]

no i think you genuniely might be reaching mental capacity

you dont know how to read a dmg API tracker

or at the very least see that the warr leaderboard on r.io has all swapped to MT

[random raptor]

Team comp, teams ilvl/gear all play a part in your overall damage

[quiet geyser]

😅 ok dude.

[barren coral]

like you're actually not worth anyone's time

[random raptor]

why would it not matter?

[quiet geyser]

Did i not say earlier key level would matter?

[barren coral]

please think or read what you're replying to, how would slayer benefit more from a better team or a different comp than would MT

[random raptor]

If your team is killing packs quicker, slayers burst windows will out perform compared to thane

[barren coral]

this is a non-existant scenario unless youre playing at +2

[modest condor]

that guy also played fury in a season where arms was clearly better, so i wouldnt just go and claim that what he does is best

[barren coral]

its also stupid to just look at the singular contrary evidence and say youre right but yeah

[lethal dew]

"difference is miniscule"

[red berry]

more AoE and good DR

[barren coral]

its in your head bro

its also in simbots' head

[lethal dew]

imagine trading 10-15% overall damage and 8% dr for something like 2-3% st

in m+

[quiet geyser]

Yes, because keys always play out according to a sim right.

[lethal dew]

yeah go play slayer its good

trust

[barren coral]

we really got saved from bottom 3 m+

just for people to say slayer is almost as good

😭

[random raptor]

My thane/slayer keys in 11s are very similar

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/39#class=Warrior&spec=Fury&metric=dps

[barren coral]

deserving of our fate

[random raptor]

and if you look at logs, both slayer and thane are similar

looking at a sim number in dungeons is wrong, because there are too many variables

you're comparing different damage profiles, you need to approach the conversation with an open mind

[barren coral]

its not wrong, but you need to actually bring up a valid possible scenario to start ignoring raw numbers

how many mobs in a m+ are dying during a slayer burst window realistically

[random raptor]

Go find a log of top parsing players where thane is signicantly ahead of slayer

They're all similar lol

If you can't perform similar on slayer compared to thane its a skill issue

[barren coral]

you'd better be looking for avg parse per spec than just compare log to log

[upbeat swallow]

Anyone uses Liquidreminders? Which reminders do you make for yourself in Nerub Palace?

[random raptor]

Why would you compare averages and not the players doing everything correctly

[desert wraith]

is crafting a 619 Ring an option for third craft?

[barren coral]

because those are exceptional outliers that dont say anything?

if i were to just look at noxiv's parses VS other top player parses on different classes

id just conclude fury was good in m+ 1 week ago

[quiet geyser]

Wait, so you're saying the players playing the class best, trying out both specs, dont matter? Lol

[open wigeon]

Thane is very similar to slayer, play what you like

Actually thane is better defensively

[quiet geyser]

Thane gets an edge in higher keys due to the consistency and more tanky. For the level 10~ keys that most people do

They're legit just preference

[open wigeon]

8% DR is stupidly strong

[quiet geyser]

But its ok guys, let cope keep living in imaginary land. Apparently we're the minority

[barren coral]

theyre not but i cba anymore, stick to slayer 👍

[barren coral]

talking to yourself btw

[quiet geyser]

Ok

[random raptor]

I’m playing both, bros pressed over nothing 💀

[barren coral]

not even replying to you?

[open wigeon]

I actually think thane is ahead in higher keys just because of the thane defensive talent

[barren coral]

play w/e you want man

[oblique trail]

Would argue stamina node is better, as it's less conditional as well as always having the option for a personal rally ahead of a damage event (with a delayed heal after if you're close to or at max HP)

[barren coral]

slayer is just worse and thats fine i guess

[open wigeon]

Yea stamina is good too, either is a lot better than the slayer defensive talent

[calm hemlock]

Damn this conversation is boring af
Here’s a pic of my cat that absolutely no one asked for

[fallen ginkgo]

made my day, thank you

[open wigeon]

Actually IMO slayer defensive talent is the worst of all

[barren coral]

slayer post nerfs feels pretty repulsive overall

feels like im speccing nothing at times

but im still top charts on ansurek without even doing 50% of my dmg to her so its cool

[velvet canopy]

Throwing three hammers at a time in M+ PUGs where everyone forgets they have interrupts has been great

[clever belfry]

This is not controversial

[eternal lance]

[meager void]

Once youve been in Skyhold long enough, you can weed out the fotm arm-chair doomers.

[coarse nest]

I’ve been playing around this all week it’s actually really useful!

[restive peak]

I'm data, I've done several 12s are both; theyre interchangeable, Slayer is better pure ST and burst, Thane is better defensively with better sustained cleave/prio in a cleave scenario

[coarse nest]

You can sponge so much with this

[restive peak]

The hype is new and exciting, that's it

Noxiv has the same experience I do, is continuing to slayer only, and is done all 13s/1 14

[meager void]

Intervene shield at 150k plus the already useful effect can be a life saver too.

[oblique trail]

150k shield

Very useful

[coarse nest]

Lmao

[oblique trail]

Against like 1 tick of a small dot

[coarse nest]

Yeah that’s a dead node but taking triple storm bolt can accidentally dr the wrong mob and brick a pull

[meager void]

There are many pulse dmg phases in m+ where that 150k saves lives.

[coarse nest]

So just take the L on the intervene talent

[quaint hamlet]

sup all, im on fury mt 15% crit 22% haste 39% mastery 8% versa right now, going for a 636 ring craft as they both suck for me and i got my myth piece on max already and tons of crests left. simed all combination of stats for the ring and going versa mastery is huuuuge more dps than haste mastery. isnt the goal 25% haste 52% mastery before going into versa and crit? confused why versa sims that more higher than haste mastery as im not on 25% haste yet

[meager void]

As its like its balanced around leaving hp at 1%

[restive peak]

Trust the sim, we do like vers now

[quaint hamlet]

cuz we like aoe? 😄

[restive peak]

There is no breakpoint goal, it's just what the sim says

[quaint hamlet]

aight imma craft this mastery versa ring even tho its feals illegal

[restive peak]

Vers is valuable regardless, if it were for AOE an ST sim wouldn't say to use it

[coarse nest]

Sim all combinations of crafted rings against each other and craft what the sim tells you to craft

[restive peak]

I'm running the mythic boe vers/mast ring

[exotic turtle]

Seems 39/50 of the top M+ fury warriors are playing Mountain Thane, on Murlokio

And tbh I tried it last night, and I like it

[restive peak]

Yes, it's interchangeable and it's new

A lot of this idea it's somehow cranking harder than slayer is coming from people respeccing Tues due to the hype, getting a vault, sending crests, and then going into now nerfed dungeons with bigger pulls than before

[verbal rivet]

Thunder Clap is a top 5 button to hit tho.

[exotic turtle]

It’s less busty, but more sustainable throughout the dungeon

Bursty*

[restive peak]

It's more sustainable AOE with higher direct prio in an AOE pack, it is considerably lower pure ST

Let's put it this way, slayer vs thane will likely not dictate the timing of a single key

Play the 1 you prefer, but this thane is so much better we're so back hype is quite frankly not real

[exotic turtle]

It’s more tanky also

You take 2% less damage I believe

[restive peak]

Yes, tankiness is not our issue however, so that's a side bonus

[exotic turtle]

Something like that

[restive peak]

Thane is very good, so is slayer, and we're in the same "placement" as we were last week

Just with different options

[verbal rivet]

I had to start tanking for keys, pretty much only DPS low keys when I’m playing with my raid tank.

[jaunty ferry]

Whats the smartest third item to craft? I have the ascendance two hand craft, then i have wrist with double neuriban embelishment thingy. Is it a good idea to just make consecrated cloak with woven duskthread?

[restive peak]

Probably the piece you have the worst slot for as you won't be able to wear the dusk cloak while using wrist + ascend

[exotic turtle]

@mossy fox also bought out a new video explaining his thoughts and why he takes 13% aoe damage over 2% ST damage any day of the week, and how MT plays so give it a watch if you’re on the fence

[hushed ocean]

been tagging in 12 key since 3 hours. 0 invite. 2720rio.

[jaunty ferry]

forreal?

u cant use that vers thingy with the other stuff? lol

[dense drum]

AM Fury gains ~5% (now within <1% of RA) (PTR notes)

The PTR changes that buffs BT and RB some Anger management gets better does that 1% means both aoe and ST? I assumed it when then become better in aoe cus of ravager + reckless every pull

[restive peak]

Yes you can't wear 3 embellishments

[restive peak]

Yes once 11.0.5 drops, thane will be better

[jaunty ferry]

alright, well all my other pieces are just 619, so do i just pick the piece that gives most strength?

[midnight kite]

The best part of Thane is you get to avoid hitting whirlwind one of the weakest buttons you have to press

It also helps reverb actually works how you think it would for TC

[restive peak]

Honestly unless you're crafting straight to 636, I'd just not bother for now

[jaunty ferry]

i am crafting straight into 636

[lethal onyx]

I just enchanted my main hand weapon with the fury of the deeps. Should I do the same for my offhand or does it not stack?

[exotic turtle]

I love how ravager automatically hits your BT and BB when it’s out, 1 less button to hit 🤣

[restive peak]

Then I'd pick an offpiece, neck or ring

Not a main piece

[lethal onyx]

I mean authority of the deeps

[jaunty ferry]

noted

[oblique trail]

Enchants stack

It just doubles the effect

[restive peak]

Also at this point I'd wait til vault

Would suck to craft say boots then get BIS mythic boots in vault tues

[jaunty ferry]

yeah makes sense ig

[lethal onyx]

I guess I'll get double of it then

[jaunty ferry]

So just wait till vault, see what i get, and then pick off piece after vault

ty

[restive peak]

Yep

Np

[exotic turtle]

Tbh I wouldn’t make neck, I was on the fence on this one too! as neck is my worst slot rn… but my thought process was… there’s at least 3-4 easily farmable good necks out there that you can easily get in placement.. but that’s just me

[restive peak]

I mean all the crafted non embellished pieces will get replaced, could apply that logic to anywhere

It also depends on the content you're doing

[barren vapor]

guys is this weapon a meme? or is it worth anything?

[limpid geode]

It was a meme. No main stat was rough for it.

[barren vapor]

That's what makes me question its usefulness too

[oak peak]

Possibly good in ST. I think it would fall off in MT. But I’m just guessing

[barren vapor]

just got it from the vault but sim says i should get the Fang trinket

[thin cliff]

the proc does a LOT of damage. It's solid as an offhand for pure ST, but really bad in MT

[elfin vortex]

its in city +11, how does it look?i feel like i could do more as slayer

[barren vapor]

i see

[crude mortar]

its the molearm

[coarse nest]

It’s really challenging to know exactly if slayer would have done more

It depends how well you played, depends how the tank pulls the dungeon

Did you have cooldowns for every big pull?

Did you have cooldowns for bosses?

Did you have cooldowns during lust

[elfin vortex]

oh i see i see

[coarse nest]

Tons of variables between keys

[calm hemlock]

I keep getting killed in second pack of Boralus when the dude grab you into the cone of the other dude and it one shot
Is it just unlucky timing or am i doing something wrong ?

[modest condor]

it's just bad design by blizzard

technically your tank could outplay it

but it's a bullshit overlap

[calm hemlock]

ah damn that's so bad

ty for the answer tho

[heavy dock]

idk why boralus was brought back

i dont thin anyone likes that dungeon

i hated it in bfa

[barren coral]

bfa had some of the most fun dungeons in wow history

and boralus is not at all one of those

[exotic turtle]

I think siege is a tough time too

Very little room for error

[golden hare]

me when i play faction and the dungeon is just worse because i didn't play the other faction

very cool

[gusty hazel]

Does anyone know how much we value leeech?
Got a Crit/mastery+leech vs a Mastery/Haste belt I'm considering swapping out

[still wave]

Leech is only really good for healer now afaik

[gusty hazel]

yeah I see I only healed 24 mill in a full run,not big value

[sinful orbit]

I would have really loved for kings rest to be back

[golden hare]

mods

now

[hardy cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943906056483004547/943917451727474739/caption.gif

[cerulean badger]

guys, do you think we will play dagger+broodsack when we switch to AM because the on use trinkets dont line up anymore?

[modest condor]

i already have the KR mount i dont need it back

[golden hare]

if they removed all bosses, removed the gauntlet after 1st boss and removed shadow of zul it might be playable

[hardy cargo]

you 1.5m trinkets will still align with avatar, which normally also aligns with AM reduced cds as long as u press them asap and have ok uptime

[cerulean badger]

okay, thank you! back to stonevault it is :´)

[heady thistle]

sorry I know it's probably a repeat question

but anyone got a new priority list for thane mplus

[barren coral]

what stats did we take on charged claymore craft?

[heady thistle]

opener feels so clunky, got too many buttons to press

[pearl crypt]

8 necrotic wake healer, tank, dps signed up "we boosting dps"

30 deaths key depleted

🫡

[golden hare]

🫡

[sick jungle]

🫡

[modest condor]

🫡

i saw a funny one once

"+10 link your key"
1500 score highest key timed a +7

yeah... i'll pass

[golden hare]

a for effort

[radiant plank]

it was his alt bro

[humble plover]

+2 mists my key ur carry

[smoky vale]

the one that sims the highest

[smoky vale]

wyd see this guy sign up to your +11 with 2 2700 players

[devout totem]

decline

[verbal rivet]

Hey, bro got 577 on Brood

[smoky vale]

it was achievement run i swear

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/bOnH7.gif

[smoky vale]

i did not die the most 🙂

guess who did

[red berry]

i think if you say you want kings rest back you should be tried in the hague

[sage valley]

Hi, as a maghar orc do I use Ancestral Call on CD or only together with reck/avatar? if not do I macro it into all abilities instead?

[errant vessel]

if you say fdk find him irl

[warm crag]

whats the cd on ancestral call

[unreal onyx]

where's the warrior

[golden hare]

2

[warm crag]

you can probably just macro it to avatar tho

[smoky vale]

nah was the keyholder wl 🙂

[warm crag]

2 seconds is criminal

[smoky vale]

im playing aug in keys with a group

[golden hare]

i swear i am law abiding citizen

[unreal onyx]

we lost another one, boys o7

[warm crag]

erga why did you not watch my twitch stream in destiny 2 vesper's host contest mode

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/bNd4c.gif

[oblique trail]

Erga is too busy pushing to become nr.1 protection warrior

[smoky vale]

D2

[golden hare]

sorry i don't know what you just said spongie

[warm crag]

[unreal onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1253376142111674378/piabuse-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KgCEk/c2ff548c93.png

mine is even worse because he has multiple kills on every boss

[sage valley]

it is 2 minutes

[smoky vale]

my character is a demon he showed up to a 11 606 🙂

[unreal onyx]

so far I made like 2mil gold by just buying myth boe's on high pop servers and selling on my low pop main server

secret tech

[golden hare]

mod ban him

[unreal onyx]

shoutout warbank

800k for myth plate that I sold for 2mil on my server

[smoky vale]

give me gold

[modest condor]

imagine paying 2mil for a boe today

[smoky vale]

and ill give you 2x

[radiant plank]

Just farm them yourself

[warm crag]

@radiant plank noober

[warm crag]

do not farm boes i will report you toblizzard hq

[fickle cedar]

we love nl here

[radiant plank]

wtf

I only got 2 boes

[warm crag]

????

perish in flames

[nimble ermine]

why is he so

[radiant plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943906056483004547/943917451727474739/caption.gif

[oblique trail]

How did you obtain this picture!!

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/northernlion-spooky-frights-northern-lion-halloween-halloween-gif-3822862376689348868

[nimble ermine]

i am his wife

he doesnt know it

[oblique trail]

hello kate!

[warm crag]

salutations katthew

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[golden hare]

why did you kill him

[radiant plank]

Threatened on gunpoint by ret paladin

[smoky vale]

at*

https://tenor.com/bXCsF.gif

[livid marsh]

oh

we posting legion logs now?

[smoky vale]

what is a legion

[radiant plank]

Sory me no speak london

[smoky vale]

i aint ever been to europe what you smoking

[radiant plank]

Coulda atleast posted real logs

and not mickey mouse difficulty

[livid marsh]

well

its hard to pad mythic if you on progress

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/bM5j6.gif

[eager thorn]

Why are ppl posting 10yo logs

[radiant plank]

Are u still progging tos

monka

[warm crag]

cause grey logging is funny

[livid marsh]

no but we only had two 2h raid days

and we didnt manage to clear the endboss

[eager thorn]

I wasnt fully a grey logger but close enough

[smoky vale]

rate the 1st time playing the game

[eager thorn]

0/10

U chose arms over Fury

[livid marsh]

if this makes you happy, here are my mythic logs

[smoky vale]

😦

i swear i like fury more

[radiant plank]

Heh, okay noobs

[smoky vale]

gnarlroot moment

[hasty tide]

We posting old meaningless logs?

[smoky vale]

wtf is that even

:wtf:

[astral path]

crazy nyalotha pumper

execute meta 🥲

anyone who went necrolord banner is crazy

why not click one button all xpac

[oak bear]

https://i.imgur.com/70LiS9f.png my guild private logs now my chance to brag

[warm crag]

69 median goes hard

[humble plover]

I can't find all grey parses on anything. Too good I guess

[smoky vale]

spongie pick 1-4

[humble plover]

[oblique trail]

peloton goes hard

@warm crag buy one for me

[thick fossil]

Sweet jesus, this just goes to show that the gold in circulation is way out of control now.

[thick fossil]

Who is this guy?

And why are we making fun of him?

[humble plover]

No hair

[thick fossil]

I think bald is sexy, but i'm also a fangirl of Jason Statham.

[humble plover]

Yeah I don't know why. I just felt like saying no hair

[wicked moat]

Is thane better for ulgrax now?

[radiant plank]

no

[wicked moat]

Kk thanks

[eager thorn]

Jeff bezos

[hard widget]

Noobslap

😄

[visual fable]

From what percentage does the amount of mastery we receive begin to decrease?

[pulsar quest]

Oh we posting logs now

Get a load of this guy!!!

[violet condor]

is there a way to use the original execute animation?

[pulsar quest]

Forever gold parsing where is my 100s I’m so SHIT

[unreal onyx]

that's orange, sir

overall even purple

[pulsar quest]

I’m also color blind

So now you’re banned

[unreal onyx]

you should ask @warm crag how to get 100

[warm crag]

i think its tied to massacre

[pulsar quest]

I’ve been chasing after the 100 on heroic queen for weeks but it’s like

1.8million

[warm crag]

untalent it and you get no trail execute oly moly

[pulsar quest]

It’s crazy

[warm crag]

you're cooked if you care abt hc r1s

[pulsar quest]

It’s only cause I’m doing boosts

And I’m bored

[unreal onyx]

[pulsar quest]

And I can’t care about prog parses so what can I care about!!!

[warm crag]

you can most certainly care abt prog parses noober

[humble plover]

I'm washed. Bench me

[pulsar quest]

I will get yelled at if I care about prog parses

I mean I’m doing fine I just want to do better

[warm crag]

prog parses this tier tend to align with real parses !! noober

rashanan and ovinax are comp dependent

[pulsar quest]

I feel like on ulgrax you need like insane grouping

[narrow narwhal]

Ulgrax is ass to parse on and bloodbound I get sent to the far add

[pulsar quest]

I feel like by the time they are grouped my raid has gotten the mobs to half hp already

[warm crag]

why would you send a warrior to do the far add lol

[pulsar quest]

Warrior can just kill close adds then leap to far that’s silly

[narrow narwhal]

Idk, I just follow orders

[pulsar quest]

Warrior shouldn’t go to far add

Should be mages or hunters

[warm crag]

you just play the walking strat on ulgrax idk

[pulsar quest]

What’s that

[warm crag]

you also kinda need 3 intermissions if you wanna parse ulgrax

[fervent yoke]

If your guild is mid and kill times are longer then personal parse will suffer right?

[pulsar quest]

True

[warm crag]

depends on fight

[visual fable]

From what percentage does the amount of mastery we receive begin to decrease?

[pulsar quest]

Kill times definitely can affect parse yeah but depends on the fight

[warm crag]

most of the time shorter = better tho

[pulsar quest]

Some fights like he said for ulgrax you may even want a longer fight

For 3rd intermission

Every fight is just different tbh to parse on

[humble plover]

Higher than we care about rn. Listen to robot it knows better

[pulsar quest]

Like if you want ti parse on heroic queen you would have to convince your guild to let you kill adds alone

Like you and one more dps basically

I got a 98 last night at 1.4m and the 100 is a 1.8m and he and his ret pally soloed the adds every set

I think on like sikran you would just need to not get like any mechanics lol

[robust summit]

hi guys. with this new thane build. whats the best rotation ? to min/max dps in big packs

[pulsar quest]

Cause not hitting the boss for that long multiple times blows

[pulsar quest]

Prioritize TC procs, use bloodbath when you have burst of power

Make sure you’re enraged when you use a TC proc

That’s about it

[covert blaze]

align your mouth with dn

[fervent yoke]

Try the fury warrior guide on wow head the author is heavily involved with this discord

[humble plover]

What's dn