fury

[modest condor]

yes

well idk about should

but that's what it is in most breakdowns ive seen

[eager thorn]

alright sweet ty

[eager thorn]

that was a 10 mists i just did

seems p similar so we're either both trolling or both doing alright

[forest owl]

yeah xD

[gleaming crag]

I am not doing it right lol

[modest condor]

keep in mind that the breakdown window combines damage sources that the quick mouseover list doesnt

[brittle crow]

so if we're not worried about armor fitting on races anymore can we get naga playable so i can have fast swimming as a racial passive

[eager thorn]

looks p similar to my actual breakdown

[modest condor]

bob's thunder blast damage is kinda low, but he doesnt have an arrow next to it for some reason

[eager thorn]

i want a murloc race

[brittle crow]

i want gnolls as the funny trash mob race

[dry hawk]

[eager thorn]

does this look alright for thane opener
transmitter > charge > reck/ava/racial/pot macro + thunder blast > roar > ravager > odyns > blast > go into aoe prio?

[gleaming crag]

i want an ethereal race

[opaque lintel]

i want murloc race

[hard widget]

Put roar into ur reck ava into tb ramp rava cb odyns ramp

Seems to be smooth

[eager thorn]

yea i was thinking of doing this but after seeing aoe prio tb > roar i took roar out of macro

i think it does feel nicer to just macro the roar though

[hard widget]

I think its only when u risk overcapping that it takes prio no?

And as long as u dont have ravager out, u have no chance to overcap "YET"

[eager thorn]

that was what i thought when looking at it ye

but it puts tb while enraged above roar

[sullen dove]

[golden hare]

swordish more like blastish

[bitter palm]

blastish more like CLAPPISH

JA CLAPPA

[eager thorn]

JA CLAPPA

[golden hare]

JA CLAPPA

[hard widget]

Idk i'd argue for opener u wont

I doubt it makes a big diff

Just makes it hella awkward to delay roar imo

[eager thorn]

you also will end up losing a gcd of thunderous words buff

since ur avatar's of bleed wont benefit from roar dmg buff

[mossy fox]

i agree, the TR version should be the build that's promoted, i explained this in my video too

[bitter palm]

no tr of is ass

to use

[mossy fox]

ya

i got used to it by now so feels fine

but TR feels real nice for sure

[summer quail]

you get used to it. now if bladestorm could still cleave i would probably never play without it

[sudden tusk]

we tclap so much it just feels so overkill

[mossy fox]

getting enraged first also stops me from popping off too early and dying

[bitter palm]

u get used to it

cause u forget

how good tr is

playing around TR is just natural

[eager thorn]

ye this is my only issue with tr really

[bitter palm]

its overkill cause its weak

[trim tinsel]

I'm still confused about the rotation, i feel like i'm capping way too much sometimes..

[bitter palm]

who cares about ww stacks

auto enrage and ww stacks should be baseline to of

[gilded pawn]

Everything should be baseline

[bitter palm]

insane capstone

7 more dps

(other capstones are less than 7 damage)

[fathom wolf]

Did they ever make back to back OF bleeds stack or do we still have to let the dot run its course?

[sullen dove]

so long as you wait literally 3 sec between them

ur good

but no they dont extend if you insta press both

[bitter palm]

they overwrite

[sullen dove]

yea

typically you press other stuff tho after avatar anyway

[gilded pawn]

They still pandemic

[sullen dove]

like if slayer avatar > roar > ramp >bladestorm and by that point def enough time to OF right out of it

and even thane what its like avatar > roar > ravager > blast > then can hit OF if you want but would prolly rather worry about sending ramp/cb for unhinged to hit bb instead of bt

(once am is better thank god wont have to worry about cb anymore)

[fickle bluff]

avatar resets the cd on tc

[dapper palm]

any of you gamers know where i could find a spreadsheet that shows stat wieghts for warrior specs?

[eager thorn]

ooh interesting ty

[young swan]

there isnt one

[dapper palm]

at stat weights not a thing anymore?

[young swan]

nope

just sim ur guy and thats basically it

[dapper palm]

what changed? cant it still be calculated with sims?

[young swan]

it can be, but the change with every piece of gear

[modest condor]

what changed is the existence of raidbots

[teal pine]

You can still see stat weights they just arent useful for deciding what pieces of gear to wear

[young swan]

^

[modest condor]

which makes it trivial to sim individual pieces of gear

[silk wharf]

Now, stat plots would be fuckin useful

but raidbots doesnt do that

[modest condor]

bloodmallet used to

[dapper palm]

yeah no i definitely want to know my stat weights lol

[modest condor]

if you're tlaking about what i think you are

[tulip swallow]

reforging needs to come back for people to understand stat weights

[dapper palm]

basically this but current

comparing mainstat to offstat

[summer quail]

jesus christ

[modest condor]

yeah sheets like that are completely useless

[tulip swallow]

Click the reforgelite button to reforge all your shit, click it again and it tells you to reforge a different way

[fickle bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[smoky vale]

cant read

fuck you noob

[dapper palm]

the fucks ur issue lol

[young swan]

pretty sure he was poking fun at greg

[smoky vale]

XD

[dapper palm]

im talkin bout all this salt

for asking bout stat weights lmao

[young swan]

theres no salt

[summer quail]

there is no salt. only memes

[young swan]

its just not useful info anymore

stat weights arent static

they change everytime you get a piece of gear

[dapper palm]

right well personally i want to know more information about the diminishing returns past 30% offstat and whether .9 crit is going to be more valuable than 1.0 vers

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[young swan]

theres no reason to sim stat weights every time you get a new piece instead of just simming the new piece to see if its an upgrade

[smoky vale]

you can sim yourself

the robot does all the work

[modest condor]

using stat weights is just a roundabout way to get an inaccurate answer

[dapper palm]

riiight but in the past, some sweatlord has done thousands of sims, put the data into a spreadsheet, and put it online lol

[smoky vale]

yeah but we are in the present

[young swan]

okay and that sweatlord was wrong

[summer quail]

diminishing returns also do not matter. if the sim tells you to get more of a stat past dr you do so

[smoky vale]

the robot can do it

[modest condor]

in the past raidbots didnt exist

[thin cliff]

and like the invention of fire, we now have direct comparison sims

[silk wharf]

I think before simming became so easy and widely available stat weights had more use. but you can fire up a sim and in less than 5 minutes know specifically what gear is best without needing to semi-guess with weights.

[dapper palm]

yeah nah i hear you guys its not about finding upgrades

its about understanding my class

idk

[smoky vale]

how do stat weights help you understand your class

the only thing that will help you understand your class is playing it

[young swan]

theres nothing to understand more from statweights tbh, like yeah theres haste breakpoints, but you kinda just dont care about them

[dapper palm]

honestly its mostly just because i dont trust wowhead stat priorities and want to know for myself

[modest condor]

which is why you sim your character

wowhead even tells you to do that

[young swan]

honestly i would listen to wowhead stat prio over stat weights, just get a shit load of haste and mastery

[astral path]

group lead sold my 100 parse

told him to move shaman to my group

and he didnt

😡

[smoky vale]

thats not how it works

self report

[young swan]

shaman buff is raid wide now

[astral path]

not for adds

no shaman in our group for adds

[summer quail]

huh?

[smoky vale]

XD

[modest condor]

this guy

[arctic sinew]

Next ur gonna tell me lead didnt rotate BLs to ur grp

smh

[astral path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771388713212051478/1064032992563056700/attachment.gif

[meager void]

Is it unhinged comment friday?

[arctic sinew]

[dapper palm]

its actually crazy how much cooler the arms channel is

[eager thorn]

guy gets told stat weights arent a thing anymore now we're uncool :/

[young swan]

you got the exact same answers there that u got here

[meager void]

❄️

[smoky vale]

nah this channel just has infinitely more people because every arms player can play fury but every fury player is a one-trick

[young swan]

the only reason they're "cooler" is because you didnt argue with what they said lmfao

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[meager void]

Its not like there's a big banner on the site he's getting the stat weights from.

[astral path]

nvm

i meant monk buff

monk in wrong group

[smoky vale]

keep typing like a schizo

[meager void]

Lolll

[astral path]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[astral path]

quiet dh

nasty little beast

[meager void]

Fair counterpoint tho

Looks like he had wft on that last take

[olive wraith]

Damn fury players only play fury nothing else

Wish I knew that now I can’t roll any alts

[flat river]

U can

[hard widget]

The way of the Zug

[flat river]

Play a fury warrior alt

[olive wraith]

I can’t

[meager void]

I can also spam Chain Lightning thank you very much

[olive wraith]

Lies that guy said fury players are one tricks

[smoky vale]

nope

[astral path]

i have a fury alt

double fury is the best

you can't be fury without a little schizo posting

[fluid cedar]

ngl thane kinda go hard

[olive wraith]

Maybe I should make fury for every race

[astral path]

YES

hit title on every race

and we give you a crown

thane is very nice to play

[olive wraith]

lol I can’t title on a single fury

I’m not that good

[opaque lintel]

what title

[olive wraith]

I assume they were talking about m+ title

Gotta finish season within a top % rating

[opaque lintel]

oh...im bad i have no pve title

almost had pvp title but im too bad

guess im bad at both

sadge

[olive wraith]

Bad is subjective

You’re just not the cream of the crop

[opaque lintel]

i was 50cr away from my r1 title

🥲

[serene vessel]

@young swan do you remember where the color scheme for raidbots is? Like where it tells you what blue vs green means? I can't find it anymore

[unreal onyx]

green is actual confirmed upgrade

[young swan]

blue is variance

[unreal onyx]

and blue is within variance

[serene vessel]

yeah no I understand, but raidbots used to specify this

but i cant find it anymore

[young swan]

oh

uh

[serene vessel]

im trying to find where it says that on the website

[young swan]

if its anywhere, its prob in their blog

[steel geyser]

do we want to use Brutal finisher instead of Culling cyclone for ST now?

[unreal onyx]

https://support.raidbots.com/article/61-top-gear-sidegrades this?

[serene vessel]

no it doesnt say it there, it used to say what the colors meant

unless im blind

[silk wharf]

What do the colors mean?!?1

[steel geyser]

anyone?

[silk wharf]

i dont know what those ability names mean

[young swan]

dont think so

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure cyclone is still in the wowhead build

So my guess is no change

[silk wharf]

Im going to assume thats a choice node option. From the names is that the makes rampages stronger/more storm ticks node?

[olive wraith]

Think that’s the slayer choice node

[fickle bluff]

it used to say "the changes highlighted in blue are sidegrades" im pretty sure yeah

but its not anymore youre right

[meager void]

are nitro boosts still working on tww?

the belt speed enchant

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KgDAU/84986839ca.png

this is what it says

and always has

[fickle bluff]

[modest condor]

do you have any sidegrades in that sim

[fickle bluff]

yeah

[serene vessel]

it used to talk about the meaning of the colors tho

blue vs green

[modest condor]

must have been somewhere i never looked then

[serene vessel]

it used to specify the colors being within variance = blue, not within variance = green

[royal crown]

hey guys slayer build still better in raid? 🤔

[fleet sorrel]

@young swan blow up

[left perch]

[fickle bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/902189324341227562/1159400823575543808/3dgifmaker27614.gif

[slim grotto]

if someone is hiding their queen logs does that = they bought the run? why would you hide logs?

[left perch]

tons of top end guilds do that too

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/elgatitolover-cat-kitty-elgatito-explosion-gif-8874415577877859154

[nimble ermine]

danger

[ornate sable]

rofl

wtf is this

[covert blaze]

LMAOOO

[sudden tusk]

1 week til dk nerfs

[young swan]

lmfao

get owned

[hardy cargo]

destroy the abuser

[young swan]

ur log gets blacklisted if you get more than 1 PI every 2 min

[hardy cargo]

[earnest ermine]

Youve angered the triads

[nimble ermine]

glory to the ccp

[sullen dove]

happened to me once on kazzara

was quite upset

[ornate sable]

One priest ask who wanted PI, i said me

Then I got 5 fucking PIs, and none of the extra PI do anything because they all overlapped

[gilded pawn]

Dang that sucks

[ornate sable]

LOOK AT THIS LOL

[gilded pawn]

Fury kinda not good with pi either

[modest condor]

lmao

[short cobalt]

as a thirs crafted item would u guys go that bonded ring?

lmaopo

binding

[nimble ermine]

do you have anyone you can get married to

[winter shoal]

Not pre-assigning PIs is lunatic behavior

PIing fury is also lunatic behavior unless your guild's hunters, DKs, locks, and monks are turbo ass

[gilded pawn]

Probably pug

[ornate sable]

It was a random group finder normal lol

[lime plaza]

Today a frost dk asked me why my dmg was so low in a 10 CoT

He was at 1.7 and I was sitting at 1.4 overall

[eager thorn]

why was it so low

[lime plaza]

Dunno I suck

[modest condor]

why was your dmg so low?

[lime plaza]

Not enough I suppose

[restive pewter]

:clappa:

[eager thorn]

[lime plaza]

We still two chested it anyways

[nimble ermine]

why is it called thunder clap if im not clapping my hands

[velvet obsidian]

Cuz you're clapping with your cheeks

[rigid stirrup]

anyone do 12s since the new hotfixes that can give me the scoop of how much more doable it is now

[pale lava]

bit less annoying but still recommend a premade

especially regarding tanks

so you don't end up having a tank that pulls 3 mobs

[runic cypress]

Its because the clap itches like thunder

[rigid stirrup]

oh i thought cause we were clappin cheeks

our* cheeks

[nocturne needle]

are we using thane on queen now or still slayer?

[heavy dock]

The old thunder clap animation for pandas was them slamming their ass so

[heavy dock]

Slayer too good for burst

[nocturne needle]

true

[heavy dock]

Thane is good for sustained

Which queen doesnt have

[nocturne needle]

I just want my pretty vfx to be mythic viable man lol

[covert blaze]

chat is this real

[heavy dock]

Yes

I played panda war in mop

[heavy dock]

You got pretty sfx from slayer instead :D

[nocturne needle]

fair

[eager thorn]

Think you might run thane on mythic council

[rigid stirrup]

waiting to see first thane m brood kill

[indigo arch]

first key as thane and muti still beats it lmao

good thing fury is getting aoe cap changes in anni patch, fury still somehow out of control and in need of fixes

[pale lava]

I'd really love to see their "data"

[eager thorn]

[indigo arch]

their data was people cried in prepatch in df and in heroic week

oh nvm the rogue was 625 with 4pc, i'm 616 with 3pc

counting that as a W nvm

l m a o

[pale lava]

muti = mutilate?

[eager thorn]

Little bit awkward complaining abt data then having the data wrong urself

[indigo arch]

yea assa rogue

[pale lava]

assa rogue is really good but they kinda suffer from stuff dying too fast problem too

[indigo arch]

What's wrong about it, that's precisely what occured

[pale lava]

they are kinda the complete opposite of fury

[indigo arch]

fury got giga buffed, meta andys with their utility having specs got mad that unga bunga spec which only has damage DOES do damage

prepatch and heroic week go by

and then unga repeatedly gettin nerfs and gettin more even though specs already passing fury

[pale lava]

the main problem is the 3% nerf is still not reverted

[indigo arch]

The aoe cap thing is what I am dreading the most, 3% wasn't TOO bad (even if unneeded)

[pale lava]

it's the 3% + cap

you can only keep one

not both

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xyjk9gh4EfFtq4BBaTxWnQ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dPzopN5bVfkVfH2LAfwq9P

A sudden thought occurred to me and I tried a simulation.
The Thane build has a small DPS drop even if you give up the max Rage talent and choose something related to survival.
If survival is really difficult, it might be worth considering.

[young swan]

the issue is the cumulative 50% nerf to OF coupled with unhinged not cleaving, BS getting nerfed, 3% aura AND THEN roar and OF getting capped to 5

it just makes no fucking sense

its actually a bit less than 50% but whatever

[indigo arch]

It's like blizzard realized they may have a season where fury is actually unironically S tier

and panicked and is now taking fury back to the fking stoneage

[hardy cargo]

still slayer nerfs inc too 🙂

[pale lava]

now that you mention them, I have no idea why the unhinged change even occured

[red berry]

nah the slayer nerfs a

[nimble ermine]

because fuck having fun

[red berry]

already happened

[left perch]

don’t worry we still all definitely main warrior and we still all get key invites

[red berry]

as far as im aware anyway

[young swan]

nobody knows cause there was no good reason aside from "blizzard didnt want it to"

[eager thorn]

I do

[red berry]

the unhinged change was fucking baffling

[young swan]

there was nerfs to the overwhelmed debuff in the anniversary patch

[pale lava]

probably same thought train as the change to make the dodgeballs not damage clones during Mistcaller

[red berry]

ah okay that hasn't dropped yet

that makes sense

[nimble ermine]

the overwhelm stacks nerf is so weird too

[red berry]

they really ought to revert that. honestly, revert anything dropping in 11.0.5 as far as nerfs are concerned. im not sure they're warranted any more

[nimble ermine]

like was it a big issue

[red berry]

no its so fucking weird

it just hits slayer

in ways that make no sense

[indigo arch]

Honestly they could unvert everything they hit fury with and it'd feel "ok"

[modest condor]

some of us have been dropping max rage when we feel it's necessary yeah

[young swan]

okay idk about that

[pale lava]

nah overwhelm debuff is surely the problem with fury

[indigo arch]

since ret/muti etc would be close to fury AND still have their util

[young swan]

if you revert every nerf fury has taken since prepatch we would be broken as FUCK

[pale lava]

surely overwhelm is what is causing fury to delete adds in raid

[red berry]

yeah that'd be silly

i do think they should revert the 3% aura nerf

[indigo arch]

Fury should be broken as fuck, no util should= peerless dam

[hardy cargo]

nah man we are just powerful in the raid, not overtuned 🙂

[indigo arch]

And if blizz doesn't want that, then ok give fury util

[nimble ermine]

they could probably revert everything, including unhinged cleaving nerf and then just hit BS and OF a bit more to compensate

[hardy cargo]

the raid caters to our niche we arent op

🙂

[nimble ermine]

idk talking out of my ass tho

[left perch]

2 fury war in Rwf

we must be omega bad

[burnt stone]

I wasn't considering it until now, but after playing M+ with a healer with a low ILVL, I decided to actively consider it lol

[young swan]

could u imagine fury on rash, ovinax, silken court, ansurek if unhinged cleaved + OF did 50% more damage lmfao

i would shit on the floor

[indigo arch]

2 fury and then max said they dont know why they had 2

[pale lava]

no one is complaining about fury in raid btw

[young swan]

on god

[indigo arch]

you mean?

[pale lava]

it's just M+

[eager thorn]

HUH

[hardy cargo]

ayo can I uhhh watch or

I mean

wrong chat

[young swan]

[left perch]

[nimble ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-chair-funny-mad-tweaking-out-gif-9293908861474220487

[eager thorn]

Unhinged cleaving would be pog tho

[left perch]

Xan abusing admin power btw

[indigo arch]

Yea I ain't talkin raid performance

[hardy cargo]

it was pog

[left perch]

using cool emoji

[indigo arch]

these changes have been DICKING on fury in m+

[young swan]

yeah idk why they nuked that

[trim tinsel]

ret palas are just better warriors

[honest sundial]

Buck Flizzard

[eager thorn]

I didn’t know it was in game tbh

[indigo arch]

ret unironically is atm in keys

[eager thorn]

But it sounds sick

[pale lava]

revert unhinged and 3% and we're on the right track

[nimble ermine]

guys cant have 1 bb and 3 bts cleave for free!!!!

[burnt stone]

This is how I felt while playing Fury.
Even if Fury is a little strong, it will be nerfed quickly.
However, unlike Mage or Rogue, warriors often show strange or no improvement even when they complain.

You must either give up Fury or play appropriately in the reality you face.

[eager thorn]

Puts even more importance to rampaging before bs

[young swan]

yeah they shot it in the head before the xpac released officially lmfao

[eager thorn]

Ah yikes

[left perch]

solid take tbh

[hardy cargo]

was very fun in prepatch

[nimble ermine]

yea they let it live all through prepatch

and then they said enough fun

[indigo arch]

give or take the main thing keeping me warr all these years tbh, I know they do this shit and will keep doin it

[nimble ermine]

you'd think they wouldve nerfed something else first

[pale lava]

they also really need to reduce the amount of threat odyn and bladestorm generate

[indigo arch]

but am fuckin stubborn

every time brown bar is top in a key I consider it a middle finger to blizzard's tuning

[eager thorn]

Nah

[nimble ermine]

i mean despite all fury's design issues

it's still a fun spec

idk

[eager thorn]

Big burst abils should cause big threat

[pale lava]

bro

just stop please

[young swan]

not kidding im about 1 bad change away from being miserable

[indigo arch]

That's the one thing blizz hasn't done to fury is make it unfun, thank fuck

[nimble ermine]

oh dont worry im half coping

[eager thorn]

Its not hard to not have issues w them

[nimble ermine]

like idk how much more i can take as well lmao

[young swan]

also like, theres something to be said for having played a version of this exact iteration that was just straight up more fun

like playing slayer fury on beta was so sick

[hardy cargo]

I am one anger management buff from hating slayer more than any spec ive ever played

[indigo arch]

I already miss slayer and only did one key as thane so far

lmao

[nimble ermine]

i like AM but the buff reasoning was so fucking funny

"ra is better so we just gonna buff am to be the same fucking thing"

[indigo arch]

another season of ravager feelsbad

[young swan]

after they fixed all the issues with AM, RA, and slayer BS cdr anyways

[hardy cargo]

I dont hate am, in fact I prefer it, but I just hate it with slayer specifically

[young swan]

yeah cd desync is shit

[indigo arch]

am feels jank with slayer

[young swan]

nobody likes it

[nimble ermine]

what if am included avatar.....

[young swan]

but blizzard seems to think its cool and fun

[modest condor]

idk i feel like AM is gonna feel a lot worse on thane

slayer already has bs desync anyway

[young swan]

i feel like its gonna be fine

ive been playing it

and it feels fine

[indigo arch]

unless AM massively slaps RA I ain't fking going it

[hardy cargo]

I enjoy it

I played am thane first day it wasnt bad at all

[modern elm]

it will feel like s2 DF, which was pretty fun on sark Ngl

[nimble ermine]

they could also do something about reck

[modest condor]

on thane those free bloodbaths during your cooldowns are huge

desyncing ravager kills that

[nimble ermine]

100% rage gen is kinda stupid i feel

[modest condor]

unless AM is enough to get it down to 45s

[young swan]

its pretty close

[hardy cargo]

it lines pretty well with OF yeah,

[steel geyser]

duskthread lining is stackable yea???

[hardy cargo]

if you have 2 it will double the stats given yes

[steel geyser]

not seeing it

weird

[hardy cargo]

go below 80%/relog/die

[steel geyser]

ooooh ok

[pale lava]

is this with powerful or frenzied

[young swan]

i only play powerful

unless if theres specific timings that need to be met

[pale lava]

yeah it feels troll to not play powerful sadly

generally

[young swan]

thats good for me

I dont like frenzied

[modest condor]

????

[young swan]

i dont like it

[pale lava]

I like both but I feel like frenzied would feel better with AM

[young swan]

it might be

[modest condor]

doesnt like AM

[pale lava]

but I'm sure powerful is still more dps even with AM

[modest condor]

doesnt like frienzied

at that point you're not even playing fury anymore

[young swan]

my fav iteration of fury didnt have it

[pale lava]

ngl I do miss frenzied a bit

[modest condor]

i want my 25% haste on enrage back

[pale lava]

that was so nice ngl

[young swan]

legion fury had no haste buff

was the best iteration of fury ever

[red berry]

25% haste fury felt good

[final birch]

I only tried df fury but current one feels the best

so far

[pale lava]

25% enrage was peak

[young swan]

maybe "I dont like it" was a bit harsh

[modest condor]

i want AM fury with 80+% average haste

[nimble ermine]

+1

[young swan]

i vastly prefer powerful enrage with ~30% haste

[pale lava]

not liking it is fine

[nimble ermine]

i want my fingers to fall off playing fury

[young swan]

its more like indifference

i just dont really care about it

[pale lava]

it's just frenzied currently feels unbalanced vs powerful

[young swan]

powerful enrage just feels more "right" to me

[pale lava]

so you have two choices but in reality you only have one

[tulip swallow]

I like powerful enrage, yeah

it juices your aoe abilities and fury already gets a lot of free haste anyway

[vivid lagoon]

I have like 40% mastery ,36% haste ,10% crit and 6% vers and I actually like it

[red berry]

i would like abilities to not feel bad to press

if they didnt, lower haste would feel fine

[pale lava]

you barely get any meaningful haste from other stuff besides frenzied

[velvet obsidian]

You can pry my extra haste from my cold dead hands

[tulip swallow]

It's like 12% free haste even with powerful

it's not insignificant

[red berry]

frenzy is 8%

at 4 stacks

which is not insignificant, no

[nimble ermine]

yeah but you are not allowed to rampage anything else

[pale lava]

that's not immediate haste

and what mel said

[red berry]

it would be nice if

[tulip swallow]

it's annoying to play around, yeah

[red berry]

you could just maintain it without worrying about target swapping

a nice quality of life buff

[nimble ermine]

too much work for blizzard buddy

[pale lava]

the stacking is weird too

[robust basin]

They're so determined to nerf fury, when tf are they nerfing our threat?

[tulip swallow]

Damage nerfed = threat nerfed

[pale lava]

would be massive buff lmao

massive buff to enjoying the spec

[robust basin]

I know lol, it's annoyying as fuck casting bladestorm and just dying

[pale lava]

and not wondering if the tank you're playing with is bad or not

[pale lava]

I don't even get to that part sometimes

pressing avatar is enough

and no I don't charge in and blast asap, I actually wait couple of gcds

[robust basin]

The spider adds on heroic Queen phase 2. I wait until we are up top, killing the main add until I pop off and boom, aggro and dead

[tulip swallow]

yeah I don't touch the intermission spiders

not worth

[pale lava]

I feel like we're back to s1 shadowlands

where tanks actually got their threat buffed

[modest condor]

sometimes i just get one of those tanks where i wait for like 8 seconds and still pull aggro

[tulip swallow]

They never should have nerfed tank threat man

[pale lava]

which is dumb because the tank minigame should be staying alive

not having to minmax dps rotation so your melee don't die

[nimble ermine]

i loved getting my shit kicked in today in an arakara on last boss because the tank didnt start with taunt

so i just ripped aggro with roar

[modest condor]

i mean you dont have to minmax dps rotation to not have a dps pull aggro

[pale lava]

feels like it most of the time honestly

unless I play with my premade tank it's a living hell

[modest condor]

that's like saying you have to minmax defensive rotation as a dps because you're standing in every swirly and never interrupting

[nimble ermine]

im so glad i play with a shammy so i keep asking him to drop earth elemental

[tulip swallow]

You do kind of need to blast right away when tanking though

[modest condor]

at this point really bad people can make it into +10s

[abstract flower]

is stat prio the same for thane as it is for slayer?

[pale lava]

yeah

[abstract flower]

cool, ty ❤️

[pale lava]

my sims didn't want any changes

on either specs

[tulip swallow]

Remove demo shout from the global or make it also cast TC 🙏

Shit is so cringe

[nimble ermine]

yea demo shout being on gcd is actually stinky

[pale lava]

problem is 1 TC isn't enough atm

which in reality should be

[red berry]

i really wish they'd just buff tank aggro again

its just miserable

[brittle dock]

Are you outgearing your tanks? I mostly play fury but do prot when we don't have a tank and don't seem to have an issue.

I'm also only middling gear though.

[pale lava]

not really no

[tulip swallow]

if you have tblast or ravager it's fine, if you're going in without any offensive cds it can be a little sketch

[nimble ermine]

eh it's mostly pug tanks being a roulette

i mostly had luck with them these past few days

[tulip swallow]

depending on what the dps do

[red berry]

ive had some pretty rotten luck the last few days myself

[pale lava]

sadly it's not just us pulling aggro, dks and paladins are doing that too

[nimble ermine]

shamans too

[pale lava]

so there's a fundamental problem with tank threat here

I've seen dks pull aggro mid pull due to breath

[nimble ermine]

the guy i play with just starts screaming in fear when he hits a fat tempest and sees every bar turn to red

[brittle dock]

So the melee that are doing big dam are pulling agro? I can't say I'm shocked. Also, in my experience, melee don't have the patience to wait 2 globals to hit thier burst buttons.

[nimble ermine]

issue is buddy

[brittle dock]

That i hvaen'tseen

[pale lava]

I always wait for the tank to go in and visually tag the entire pack

[nimble ermine]

2 gcds isnt enough

[pale lava]

I don't charge in at the same time as the tank btw

[pale lava]

ye this is really dumb

[brittle dock]

2 gcds aren't enough on a similar ilvl tank? Maybe it's because of the scaling of dps vs tanks?

[pale lava]

there's no reason for packs to switch on melee as long as the tank is there and actively engaging with the pack

[nimble ermine]

no some tanks dont press their abilities

[tulip swallow]

Basic abilities just don't do enough snap threat on many tanks, they kind of need something extra

[pale lava]

MM bursts harder than most specs and they don't pull aggro

[brittle dock]

MM is ranged

[modest condor]

mm has misdirect

[pale lava]

yep

[tulip swallow]

Ranged specs don't have to deal with aggro basically ever

[pale lava]

I know

my point exactly

[modest condor]

tell that to arcane mage

[pale lava]

most tanks also don't focus down the highest hp mob in the pack

because common sense = 0

[modest condor]

or hell, fire mage in df s2

in high end keys they often had to commit bop on the mage in big pulls

[young swan]

devoker as well

[tulip swallow]

It's technically better to focus the big boys but if I'm feeling lazy I just keep primary target on w/e I need to kick

[brittle dock]

Meh, when tanking with pugs I'm usually focused on making sure the casters don't get their casts off.

[brittle dock]

this.

[modest condor]

get a focus kick macro

[pale lava]

or mouseover

but this lazy excuse just isn't it

[modest condor]

mouseover is risky, you can miss

[pale lava]

anything that works

for you

[modest condor]

i have both mouseover and focus, but if there's an important kick i'll focus it

mouseover is for random casts when nothing is assigned

[brittle dock]

See, I think being lazy is it. I'm there to have fun. watching the DK fall over occasionally adds to the experience.

[modest condor]

lol

[pale lava]

bro has fun killing people

interesting

[nimble ermine]

i respect it

[modest condor]

it's called pvp

[pale lava]

but in M

interesting gamemode

[verbal rivet]

I play with a prot Pali and a shaman

[brittle dock]

Dude, can't say you don't laugh when it happens to someone else

[pale lava]

no I don't because I actually know how tilting it is to die mid cds

[nimble ermine]

dunno how fun it is to lose 15 seconds

[pale lava]

I don't find the misfortune of my teammates funny

[nimble ermine]

especially with how volatile pugs are now

[verbal rivet]

My interrupts are useful 4% of the time

[pale lava]

but you do you

[verbal rivet]

I’ve been tanking keys, I’d brick your key if someone said it would be funny

[opaque lintel]

do u pres TB on cd?

or

save it

[brittle dock]

It's probably where/when you're pugging. I'm happy doing a few 10s for vault and otherwise running 8s-9s and being chill and having fun.

[opaque lintel]

for w/e

[pale lava]

it's not

[brittle dock]

I can't imagine trying to pug a 12+.

[pale lava]

just save ur time and don't

I tried

[flint otter]

finally just got all my 10s

[pale lava]

never again

[flint otter]

Siege and NW were my last 2

[pale lava]

looking forward to not seeing these two ever again

[ornate sable]

Thoughts on the aoe vs single target build on first boss? It's just like.... pure pad right?

[opaque lintel]

nw is kinda alright ngl

if ppl arent stupid

[flint otter]

i'm stupid

that's the problem

[pale lava]

dungeon is just not fun to play, it has no interesting mechanics or interactions

[fickle phoenix]

wym bro you don't like gathering spears XDDDDD

[opaque lintel]

kinda feel like tehy all the same

[pale lava]

or getting sent down

[flint otter]

i like how much reflecting there is on the last boss

[fickle phoenix]

it's okay man that boss has had enough of you

[pale lava]

or fighting literal patchwerks with some interrupts the entire run

peak dungeon design

[pale lava]

nah, most dungeons this season are fun, overtuned some of them, but overall fun

[opaque lintel]

reflecting ice shards is actually big brain

xd

[brittle dock]

I think you're just too good at the game for it. I have less fun in things like Threads where there's mechanic vomit all over.

[fickle phoenix]

spell reflect frozen binds

its giga

[pale lava]

ara kara has really fun bosses as an example, trash could be better

[flint otter]

that's the ticket

[opaque lintel]

or frozen bind

idk names

[fickle phoenix]

all g

but ye

[opaque lintel]

also

reflecting the orbs on first boss in threads

[fickle phoenix]

you can make your whole parties life easier

[pale lava]

I really like threads

[opaque lintel]

huge

[fickle phoenix]

by dictating what can happen in that fight

its p cool

[ornate sable]

Is there somewhere with fight timeliness? so i can plan odyns fury usage tc?

[pale lava]

you mean the ones that get shot out? you can reflect those? interesting

[brittle dock]

I was wondering who those dungeons were for. All the new ones seem to have way more things go off at one time for us mortals.

[pale lava]

is it reflect or deflect?

[opaque lintel]

if u reflect

after the beam

[flint otter]

I'd say in terms of difficulty from easiest to hardest:

Dawn > Mists > Arak > GB > SV > COT > Siege > NW for me

[opaque lintel]

and he puts debuff on u

u reflect the debuf

[pale lava]

last boss is non existent for warriors btw

you just reflect splice and it's gg

[opaque lintel]

so only 1 player has orbs

[pale lava]

ah that's what you mean

[fickle phoenix]

too bad you can't reflect puddles on SoB last boss

it's been a pain in the ass

[brittle dock]

Oh, I'm fine. It's my healer who can't stand still long enough to get a cast off.

[pale lava]

I don't really care about the difficulty of a dungeon but rather if it's engaging and interesting to play

[flint otter]

well rank the difficulties for conversation's sake dammit

[opaque lintel]

how do u reflect slice 💀

[flint otter]

reflect splice when the boss casts splice

???

profit

[fickle phoenix]

when she casts splice

just spell reflect

[pale lava]

have the group stack on the tank and move as one while the healer hangs out in the back

[fickle phoenix]

you wont get the dot

[opaque lintel]

intresting

[brittle dock]

Also, Mists on the tank can be murder when there guardians anima slice you too much.

[pale lava]

usually the orbs will target the group and the healer can afk a while

[opaque lintel]

not that i know what it does

i just see it on dbm

KEK

[snow edge]

The best way to reflect it, is to reflect it when it's cast

[brittle dock]

you can get pugs to do that?

[pale lava]

sometimes the healer will be unlucky and get targeted by the orbs

[pale lava]

if they have common sense yeah

[opaque lintel]

NGL

98% of all boss abilities

IDK

[small anvil]

Slayer in raid still?

[brittle dock]

I'm not sure where you find those pugs. Mine are all over creation.

[fickle phoenix]

Yes outside of Silken Court

[pale lava]

especially tanks, they either don't move at all or move too much for no reason

[opaque lintel]

o i thought slice was

[small anvil]

Ah ok ok

ty

[opaque lintel]

the orb ability

[pale lava]

splice is the dot

[opaque lintel]

that pulls all the orbs

[pale lava]

and you can run second wind to practically need 0 healer attention on that fight

[opaque lintel]

im 100% clueless ngl

i admit

[pale lava]

that's fine, you learn

[opaque lintel]

i mean

i did all 10s

so

[pale lava]

that's good, keep it up

[opaque lintel]

i guess im doin something right

[sullen dove]

oh yeah no thats really great

[opaque lintel]

idk what im watching

[sullen dove]

transmitter ball jumping off a cliff

[opaque lintel]

if its the "dodge attack"

oh

[sullen dove]

good trink btw

[pale lava]

the best

[opaque lintel]

why cant we have a spymaster

for melee

[pearl sequoia]

Seeing the chart of spymasters vs other trinkets is criminal

[pale lava]

@opaque lintel you can also reflect Corrupt cast on the big faceless guys before the last boss in grim batol

and watch them self destruct in seconds

[opaque lintel]

aye i do that

benefits of doing pvp

i reflect anything

thats aimed at me

or its for the dmg reduction

and then would u look at that u reflected a mechanic

waow

[pale lava]

ngl I think we should rename it to

maybe spell reflect

[opaque lintel]

FAXX

[winter shoal]

Sim bait trash get it out of my sight

[opaque lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/sometimes-maybe-good-maybe-shit-gif-15610659

[pale lava]

because you can't reflect everything

so it's a 50/50

[hard vapor]

hey there im new as warrior can someone explain to me why some website tell to craft claymore and other the axe when they have the same exact stat ?

[eager thorn]

theres no difference except appearance and price

one wep will prob be cheaper to craft than the others

[sullen dove]

13 deaths and missed this 11 gb by like 12 seconds still

[winter shoal]

Pug mages built diff

[opaque lintel]

claymore is 636 but myth wep is 639 no?

[winter shoal]

Correct

[opaque lintel]

oh u were talking about the crafted axe

wops

[sullen dove]

but uh

thane cool

[winter shoal]

Thane owns

Can't wait to play AM thane in 2 weeks

[opaque lintel]

someone explain why eveything is capped at 5/8 targets tho

/cry

[hard vapor]

yeah craft axe

[pearl sequoia]

nah craft mace

[young swan]

lmfao get fucked

aim it better next time

[young swan]

once upon a time things werent target capped and blizzard didnt like that so they shot everything in the head except for some random stuff with no rhyme or reason and here we are

same story as always if im being honest

[winter shoal]

Xan do you know TC/TB target cap off the top of your head

It's 5 innit

[young swan]

TC used to have some really fucked up target scaling

idk in thats still the case

but like in BFA it was like

[winter shoal]

Imagine playing BFA

[young swan]

normal to 5, reduced to 8, meteor at 14

or some wacky shit

[winter shoal]

tf is meteor

[young swan]

full split

[winter shoal]

Oh word

[young swan]

i honestly dont remember

was so long ago now

and i have no idea how it works now

[winter shoal]

We pray for target cap scaling revert

[young swan]

lemme see if i can find out

[summer quail]

bfa was such a weird expansion

[young swan]

yeah it was bad as fuck

gcd change will go down as one of the worst changes ever made

[sullen dove]

blow up

[summer quail]

i quit after first tier than came back late last tier

[young swan]

along with target capping in slands

[gilded pawn]

I understand the logic

But yeah it was shit in practice

[ornate sable]

Is there a strat to not afk for 9s while also not griefing your raid?

9s is an eternity

[willow cradle]

just charge back in and leap out when 3 seconds are left wait till it blows up and charge back in

[ornate sable]

kk

[winter shoal]

You shouldn't get targeted with that unless your group has like 0 ranged

Or they're dea

dead

Oh nvm I'm cooked I thought that was the portal placement

Yeah you can just run out with like 3-4 sec left, just be careful charging back in if there are still lines/other peoples' orbs up

[tame haven]

Y'all have any recommendations for weak aura packs for tracking Fury CD's? Thanks a bunch!

[young swan]

LET IT BE KNOWN @hallow sphinx HAS 2 MYTH TRACK BIS TRINKETS AND NEITHER OF THEM ARE UPGRADED

[pulsar helm]

wtf thats so wild!

[vagrant hinge]

That's cringe

[jagged turret]

Hi ! is it possible that a fury warrior with ilvl 605 is doing more damage than a 615 ilvl one because the 605 got the BIS Trinkets in solts ? (even with if his trinkets are less ilvl). thx

[polar trail]

That seems highly unlikely unless the 615 plays a lot worse

[jagged turret]

Hum ok thx. Unfortunately I'm the 615 ^^'

Is it possible that this difference is because of bad stats ?

[polar trail]

Analyze your logs and talentbuild vs the 605

[last lance]

Hi guys! Any advice on dealing with dying from agro when using CDs in keys?

[jagged turret]

I'm using the wowhead talent builds for multi and single targets and following the best I can the rotation adviced.

[polar trail]

Count to 3 before opening

I’ve had less aggro since playing MT

[last lance]

So basically just make sure the tank gets full agro first?

[sullen dove]

may he blow up!

[polar trail]

Yea, like i play prot a lot and it takes 2 more gcds or so more than fury to set my aoe up

Fury will rip if they go before my spear/shield charge in prot

[last lance]

That is understandable, bladestorm seems to pull agro so easily without other CDs even haha

[eager thorn]

wtf

[polar trail]

Especially when tanks pull double or triple, it’s likely they wait for the grouping before they go ham

Your best job is to help grouping by interrupting and then go hard 3s later

Especially in pugs

[last lance]

Thanks, treacherous transmitter also makes life very difficult to pop it during a pull. I really hate this trinket but the boost is so good

[polar trail]

I pop that when gathering, usually wait to complete the assignment until I’m ready to go bbrrrrrr

A good item to make sure you wait

[jagged turret]

When using Blood Lust are you using Bladestorm ? Or just rampage for the time of the Blood Lust ?

Because if I use bladestorm on blood lust I'm overcaping my rage :/

[pearl sequoia]

dont worry about rage

just follow the rotation

and priority

[summer quail]

overcapping happens. it doesn't matter

[jagged turret]

Ah ok, it's not important having much than 130 of rage available ?

[delicate spear]

yo is there a way to craft an item with only mastery

[polar trail]

Use crushing blow and bloodbath over ramp when enraged, regardless of rage

[jagged turret]

Ok but for bladestorm when there is Blood Lust active ?

[pearl sequoia]

pretty sure crafted items can only be multiple stats

[polar trail]

Open with cds into bladestorm into odyns fury.

[tidal kindle]

Okay let's be real

He's not upgrading mark cuz transmitter will spawn in his vault on reset

Sac though...

[humble plover]

wtf goin on in there

[amber shuttle]

i can only get limited gilded crests, should i save to upgrade crafted weap or upgrade heroic pieces?

[left elk]

Weapon first usually

But depends if you already have myth track weapon

[amber shuttle]

no mythic track anything

[left elk]

Save for 636 weapon craft then

[next mica]

soooooo.... DK nerfs when? : )

[last lance]

nerf em and buff fury single target - winning

[lament hinge]

they blind

[next mica]

i cant wait for a AM talent build change

[buoyant salmon]

MARK OF KHADROS NOT BIS THAT IS BEANS KEKW

[quick jungle]

is raidbots bladestorm damage correct? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oFhRUHMkiADPi5UgrTZjWS its 4th highest dmg on my sim at 9.7 mil but only doing 6.82 when i hit the dummy. getting 3 casts of it off and using it the same way the sim is. twice with cds, once without

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-gif-7617358462219751730

[next mica]

@quick junglewhat i can think of is you are eigher not using BS in enrage or you dont have 3 stacks of imminent demise when u blade

[trail bane]

Do you have all raid buffs, flask, dps pot, food, bloodlust etc.?

[quick jungle]

no, but i simed without buffs as well. its set to training dummy

[quick jungle]

that is possible. should i be holding cds and bladestorm until i have 3 stacks always?

[trail bane]

can you link the sim?

[next mica]

well u should have 3 stacks passively

the answer is yes but idk how you would drop them off anyway

[quick jungle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oFhRUHMkiADPi5UgrTZjWS

the sim has 6.5% bladestorm uptime and i have 5%

so that might be it

[trail bane]

The sim includes BT/BB procs from Bladestorm

[vague copper]

There is no way you can get help from bliz to undo a craft right? Crafted the wrong rod for enchanting Qq

[trail bane]

Into Bladestorm

[next ruin]

In the end, how does MT perform? Are we not forced to reroll?

[quick jungle]

oohhhh that might also be it

[quick jungle]

does details not count those?

[trail bane]

Im pretty sure details counts them as the spell they are

[modern geyser]

Is slayer still the play after Mt buffs?

[trail bane]

Not the source from where they were cast

[quick jungle]

got it tyvm

[trail bane]

9.7 mil - 3.6 mil = 6.1 mil, a lot closer to your results in game

[quick jungle]

yeah that ads up. appreciate it

[oblique trail]

What I see is a noober issue

[young swan]

mark of khardros is definitely good enough to be considered bis

i have decided it

even tho i called it fake previously

[ivory topaz]

Is there like a different opener for mountain thane? Do i follow the same opener on wow head?

[oblique trail]

And you are also a noober

So it makes sense

[covert blaze]

transmitter aint that bad

you get used to it

[indigo arch]

I stand corrected thane is neat

blastin keys

(now just undo like one nerf so fury can be S again kekw)

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-toture-tiny-kitten-tiny-cat-small-animal-gif-25121954

this will be your fate

[oblique trail]

finally

[fading bane]

Bis for me (im currently pink 😎)

[tender seal]

[fading bane]

Shouldve made it give 6969 mastery

Big mistake

[tender seal]

tru

[south kayak]

that would be mean buffing warriors

[lament hinge]

cant have that

[loud bay]

What is the best option or the spare spark this week?

maybe replace a low ilvl ring?

[next ruin]

Is it good or is it back to b-c tier?

[fading bane]

Any slot with sub optimal stats

[unreal shell]

Run droptimizer on it

If you cba then do weapon or any piece with low ilvl that you can't farm a higher ilvl replacement for easily

[indigo arch]

Fury is stuck there again

because other specs do the same or more AND with utility in key

gonna be s2 or s3 if they realize what they did by listening to prepatch and heroic week whining

[unreal shell]

Whatever, it's fun to play and it does enough damage. If you want to push 12/13s with a team then play for that, if you're slumming 8s/9s just vibe and zug

[livid marsh]

zug zug

[zealous whale]

does bb take prio over rb in thane

[tidal kindle]

No, RB (CB) reset w/ tier, bloodcraze, Thorims might + burst of power all amp BB

If you sent CB first

Though I believe it's pretty close (Don't quote me on this)

On ST at any rate

Unsure about AoE off the top of my head, don't quite know how the Burst of Power amp works on aoe + CSHB value at however many targets (and BB/BT proccing thunderblasts)

[livid marsh]

it doesnt really matter to much since you will use both BB and CB, same with BT and RB and you will still profit from the buffs as long as you dont overcap

[tidal kindle]

P much

Blast #1

Rest pretty close

But still nice to know

[livid marsh]

yeah its just juggling around all the empowered spells making sure to get them out, then have enough rage to make sure you can keep enrage at 100%, i personally do RB because hitting a second BT doesnt buff Ramp anymore

[eternal sundial]

[warm crag]

whelmed

[sage valley]

What is the fastest/easiest delve to fill up vault?

[hard widget]

Thats an overwhelming amount of overwhelmed

[clever belfry]

p easy to keep up with st spec tbf

[eternal sundial]

i assure you it wasnt my councious decision to drop it

game decided to not give me anything

[oblique trail]

I think checking for Overwhelm is a good way to lose mental stability

I have not yet looked at my logs for it nor on my nameplates, nor do I think I ever will

[soft condor]

Do I use the treacherous transmitter with my burst cds or before/after?

[oblique trail]

Before

Pop before -> solve -> pop CDs

[soft condor]

❤️

thanks fam

[eternal sundial]

i track it on wa so i can maybe sd a 1/2 mfe stack to extend

but its criminally unfun to see drop

[unreal shell]

I don't embrace unfun

Turn off details and buff trackers and just live in denial

I'm pushing buttons and my character is screaming a lot and there's lots of lightning, so I much be doing top dps

[clever belfry]

2+2 = 3

[hard widget]

Why? With Thane we're actually pretty competitive

[unreal shell]

Haha was more referring to the overwhelm thing and took the meme too far

I'm actually loving Thane

And feel pretty competitive in most keys

[next mica]

how much different is thane from slayer in m+?

[neat coral]

any updated links to the thane build?

[royal kindle]

Is authority of the radiant power better for portal level m+? I see best warriors using the depths but is that only because after +12 the fights take so long?

[next mica]

and by different i mean which 1 performs better damagewise and by how much

[hard widget]

Raid enchants

But also good for st in m+

[hard widget]

#updates-midnight

[royal kindle]

thanks

[oblique trail]

[next mica]

why are u showing me bug fixes brugh?

i dont know what that bug fix solves

[hard widget]

Scroll

[mossy fox]

Pop before -> get jump 3 times -> pre-jump 2 times -> pop cds and forget 3rd jump

[hard widget]

And this is why i dont play that shitty trinket

Just gimme a skarmorak shard or mark of khardos and im gaming

[clever belfry]

this has never happened to anyone

stop lying

[fading bane]

It has 100% happened to me

But just delayed

Not entirely

[golden hare]

if you look two messages up from that

[fading bane]

Transmitter seperates the boys from the men

But im honestly very happy that im not using it atm

[teal pine]

Last heroic pug I was in two transmitters dropped. Winning rolls were 100 and 98

I rolled a 9

It’s not meant to be

[warm crag]

hidden technique: offer 100k gold

[proud leaf]

Tak'rethan Abyss is pretty quick

upgrade to 626 or keep sureki's for the healer homie?

sureki is about 38% uptime in keys

.6% upgrade in dps if i upgrade

[hard widget]

I've been getting more uptime actually in keys

Really good neck

I would hold off till you have a myth track neck before upgrading

[proud leaf]

tracking with details or wclogs

[hard widget]

Details

[oblique trail]

Details tracks time spent in combat