just know na logs are around that time
#fury
sick jungle
so whats the deal with ritual knife? it sims crazy high on raidbots but it's really low on bloodmallet
acoustic yoke
No
sick jungle
who should I trust 
acoustic yoke
It's just frost had the spotlight more
acoustic yoke
Unholy quadratic scaling is always bonkers
sullen dove
also idk if youre taking into account ilvl difference
but knife can only go up to 626
so wont be as good as 639 trink
but if youre comparing it to other 626's then itd be "more" accurate
lean heart
would it be good to drop Hack n Slash to pick up 1 point in Vicious Contempt for thane in keys?
sullen dove
maybe tbh considering how much more you hit bt
lean heart
kind of a shame they changed Unhinged so BT cant cleave anymore during BS/Rav
eager thorn
Don’t people just drop titanic rage for vc
smoky vale
people do
odd agate
kind of a shame they changed Unhinged so BT cant cleave anymore during BS/Rav
Yeah it would be nice if it would at least cleave for ravager since you can't really hit BT/ BB while it's up
lean heart
i like having titanic rage it feels smoother on opener
feral ivy
i take it rashan mythic frontal the line of web it random ppl
left perch
guess what
marsh dock
is there any site that will check to see if you're missing any gems/enchants? Years ago it used to be Mr robot, but they dont seem to have it anymore
coarse nest
I usually go to the wowhead consumables tab for fury warrior and use my eyeballs to check what I dont have
works pretty good
eager thorn
^ just hover what gear the wowhead page says and check
marsh dock
yeah i screwed up twice because of that
its weird there's no site that does that.
like websites have gotten worse over the years for recourses for players somehow
eager thorn
Well you could also sim ur gear and select bis enchants at the bottom
Then if any enchants are + dps ur prob missing them
marsh dock
ohhh i havent seen that option,. ive only seen a gear upgrade finder. that sounds liek what im looking for
feral ivy
is there any site that will check to see if you're missing any gems/enchants? Ye...
do u mean that?
eager thorn
cuz wowhead is deceptive and has bad info
? No it doesn’t
marsh dock
also it doesnt tell you that you can add sockets to your gear. just found that out recently
you want one of each. guide makes you think you want authority of th edepths on both
eager thorn
You do want both
feral ivy
? i have bis enchants
radiant knot
when do i thunder clap? after or before my execute?>
eager thorn
Why do you think the site is wrong, where have you seen conflicting info?
marsh dock
yeah. Logs of top warriors have 1 of each
eager thorn
Doesn’t necessarily mean its bis
radiant knot
when do i thunder clap? after or before my execute?
when do i thunder clap? after or before my execute?
sry
caps
frail trout
I guess you need a certain target count to achieve this but festering scythe becomes a feedback loop with the right amount of targets
eager thorn
when do i thunder clap? after or before my execute?
Check wowhead rotation guide
marsh dock
wait nvm, im dumb. the other enchant hes using is the embelishment, not another enchant
radiant knot
whats a wowhead
frail trout
it puts out enough wounds to trigger the next scythe, that scythe puts out enough wounds to trigger the next one as well, etc.
radiant knot
I dont use google, its full of viruses.
woeful vine
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps
This website told me to vote for Kamala is that part of the fury rotation?
frail trout
seems kinda silly
eager thorn
This website told me to vote for Kamala is that part of the fury rotation?
I’m english idc
woeful vine
I’m english idc
Oi do you have a loicense to speak to me that way?
eager thorn
wait nvm, im dumb. the other enchant hes using is the embelishment, not another ...
All good mistakes happen
radiant knot
valid
eager thorn
https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385
Americans do use kilometers tho dont they
Like the army uses clicks and thats a km
lapis slate
That's just the military though, makes it easier to give info across allies and what-not I reckon
pearl sequoia
its almost like kilometer is the international standard
lapis slate
Archi would probably know more on why, but isn't a big part of it due to NATO standards?
pearl sequoia
you cant reflect it realistically
chrome relic
ya its like you can if it picks you or whatever but when I have reflect up i can never hit it
pearl sequoia
its something weird like reflect before the cast starts, then it has to go on you, and your relfect has to be up by the time it hits you
dont think their is a vid out there of someone doing it so realistically u cant
gilded pawn
so whats the deal with ritual knife? it sims crazy high on raidbots but it's rea...
bloodmallet is jsut raidbots on a generic character
your sim is always more right
elder granite
loud bay
With the spare Spark, Is it worth crafting to replace low level items?
south kayak
Yeah
eager thorn
Well it depends
If ur prob getting 1-2 myth items a week its better to save gilded crests i believe
south kayak
Hey mudw
eager thorn
But if you aren’t gonna get myth pieces or have the free runed creat you can prob send it
south kayak
Sup
south kayak
Morning
sullen dove
actually no fathomable reason for this boss to do 3 swirlies in the same spot at the same time
young swan
yeah get owned
eager thorn
Brood?
sullen dove
like when aag died to that clip it was a venn diagram and a third one dropped in a previous ones spot like 1 sec later
thats within the realm of reasonable
but literally 3 pixel stacked exact same time
suck ball
eternal sundial
I imagine brood prog is kinda fun since its just perma padding
Soulless pad
sullen dove
I imagine brood prog is kinda fun since its just perma padding
took 2 hours to get us to a semblance of weakauras being all synced up
and actual correct assigns for markers
pearl sequoia
padding on brood = doing what ur meant to do
eager thorn
Soulless pad
Nah its just nicer to spend a night on aoe boss rather than st imo
eager thorn
took 2 hours to get us to a semblance of weakauras being all synced up
Oh lord
eager thorn
padding on brood = doing what ur meant to do
Ye at the start of rash yesterday my raid lead was like “everyone go st build warriors u know what to do”
eternal sundial
Nah its just nicer to spend a night on aoe boss rather than st imo
I like st 
eternal sundial
As long as there arent omega forced downtime events
And my damage now stinks
Sikran u evil fuck
eager thorn
I enjoyed sikran
eager thorn
Lose the dmg sure but i feel like i just put em down better
eager thorn
Warriors don’t do st
Facts
eternal sundial
Warriors don’t do st
Arm can
eager thorn
Class fantasy
eternal sundial
no reason to play warrior ever
Me when im a whiny bitch
eager thorn
I play what i enjoy > what is good :3
south kayak
I'm not gonna denny that I am a whiny bitch
eternal sundial
fake phil duck btw
Fym
south kayak
Who is changing your username
eternal sundial
Unc trippin
south kayak
that's fake vhys
eternal sundial
Who is changing your username
Banezi denied the alegations
eternal sundial
Maybe Vil
I have a suspicion but like
Surely my guilds feral druid wouldnt do that
eternal sundial
Reason to what
eager thorn
south kayak
Reason to what
all the more reason to change your name lol (not serious)
eager thorn
Ive perma been at 2k valorstones this season idk how
south kayak
weirdo
eager thorn
:/
eternal sundial
Ive perma been at 2k valorstones this season idk how
I upgraded a weapon from 623 to 636 this week
All stones gone
south kayak
don't think i've eveer been at capped valorstones
south kayak
All stones gone
weapons cost too many stones
eager thorn
They give like 300 when you do the 5x souls
south kayak
Do you do worldsoul memories
Something's wrong with them
last time I did they weree bugged
south kayak
ok i got a bunch of runed crests from raid, what to upgrade
eternal sundial
Do you do worldsoul memories
I have zero souls left cuz i dont do weeklies
eternal sundial
ok i got a bunch of runed crests from raid, what to upgrade
Sim?
south kayak
gg
eternal sundial
I wont do delves that are irrelevant for my gear
south kayak
who is still doing delves on their main
south kayak
fair
eager thorn
who is still doing delves on their main
I need to do some for achievements
But thats it
south kayak
i still haven't done zekvir lmao
eager thorn
Just give it a shot
Shouldn’t be too hard with good gear its mostly just learning what mechs do n when
eternal sundial
i still haven't done zekvir lmao
I nearly oneshot him on my 576 enha
If i went in on main itd be mad funny
south kayak
should I do this
south kayak
real
pearl sequoia
just get dawnbreaker belt 4head
eager thorn
Understandable
eager thorn
I agree
south kayak
pearl sequoia
mythic gear shouldnt be free
eager thorn
9s arent free
south kayak
^
eager thorn
Being easy to you = / = being easy for all
eternal sundial
9s in pugs are horrendous
eager thorn
I dont think getting 1 myth piece a week really changes anything for the higher end of players already getting it
eager thorn
Also you can just buy mythic boes
So its not like myth gear is made with being quite inaccessible in mind
south kayak
yo guys did u see prot pala damage
eager thorn
I havent seen a prot pala in a while
pearl sequoia
i invited a prot pala, he had to leave, then everyone in the group said thank fuck hes gone
eternal sundial
Last i healed
south kayak
are you tanking on prot war
burnt stone
I respect those who challenge M+ with fury.
Over the past few days, I've been tinkering with wa and ui and testing them on a target dummy to utilize new talents.
But no one wants fury because of the damn affix.
I picked up my shield again
eternal sundial
are you tanking on prot war
No on prot shaman
eternal sundial
Prot warrior does very big damage
eager thorn
I respect those who challenge M+ with fury.
Over the past few days, I've been ti...
Its not that nobody wants fury
gilded pawn
its a dps problem not a fury problem
eternal sundial
I respect those who challenge M+ with fury.
Over the past few days, I've been ti...
Warrior seems strong in keys. You just do not get invited by groups 
eager thorn
Its that theres probably 50 other applicants with similar ilvl and io score
south kayak
I get decently invited to groups as fury
eternal sundial
To 9/10s 
south kayak
yeah
eager thorn
I’ll bring out the art again
eternal sundial
btu that's because i only have one timed 10
I have an 11 times no 10s 
burnt stone
When I apply to join the m+ group
I apply after sufficiently confirming whether I dare to participate there.
For example, apply only to groups that have people who can revive during battle and people who can use Bloodlust.
But all I got back was cold rejection
south kayak
I have an 11 times no 10s <:keks:936231610850897992>
guild group?
eternal sundial
It is
south kayak
so annoying
eager thorn
When I apply to join the m+ group
I apply after sufficiently confirming whether ...
Just apply to everything
Br and lust are big but not insta win or lose for a key
south kayak
dawn is easy but i wouldn't say easiest
eager thorn
And more applies = more chance to get in one
eternal sundial
When I apply to join the m+ group
I apply after sufficiently confirming whether ...
I try use the engineering ressurection rather than wait for a ress class but it doesnt help :)
south kayak
the dark orb boss..
eternal sundial
dawn is easy but i wouldn't say easiest
It is as free as mists
south kayak
people don't know how to bait orbs
south kayak
eager thorn
Mists also easy but easier to fuck up than db
south kayak
a little late
sage jackal
Once upon a time we were first there
south kayak
orchid iron
are we really doing vers/mastry on the weapon and not haste?
eternal sundial
I made haste mast since it simmed best
plain oak
Once upon a time we were first there
poor priests
south kayak
Nah, I saw that before but I can't believe it's still high
lost coral
wtf who are you
tidal kindle
Who are YOU
LMAO
I saw you hittup the node was like
"Why is this name familiar"
south kayak
what game is this
radiant plank
Looks like lost ark
eager thorn
Anyone actually buying these?
its not that bad rlly
eager thorn
Sunkencost-ark
me with rs3
sullen dove
Once upon a time we were first there
dw we will be again when adds added back to rash
and more ppl kill broodtwister
(when i kill broodtwister)
(4 weeks from now)
sage valley
Nah, I saw that before but I can't believe it's still high
I've spent probably 250k on enchants/gems/jewelers settings in 1 week 😦
young swan
ive spent like a mil on enchants/consumes/gems since xpac launch i think
sage valley
yeah hella expensive
young swan
maybe closer to 800k
sullen dove
im like.. 3mil down..
barren coral
finally
sullen dove
idek on what
sage valley
I had to buy my first wow token 😦
barren coral
I told you mfs there is no way NW will stay as is
sage valley
Loving warrior btw, back to playing warrior once again, have not since WoTLK
feels good
sullen dove
eager thorn
warrior fun
young swan
warrior okay at best
sage valley
got an irl friend playing ret paladin and we are competing on dps in M+ having a great time. (he is 4 ilvls above me)
slim coral
south kayak
ive spent like a mil on enchants/consumes/gems since xpac launch i think
I have spent like 500k overall on everything
crafting mats
south kayak
glossy dragon
@sage valley how did you get your details to look like that
sage valley
<@150297583078604800> how did you get your details to look like that
ToxiUI
south kayak
nice details
loud nexus
anyone have ST thane build for raid?
wide escarp
hey yall i need help with simming, i can never seem to sim the arakara trinket to be better https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kFNuNZ98DJ16eLNr7UJLRF is that normal?
barren coral
warrior okay at best
warrior ok at worst :)
young swan
nah
barren coral
no rlly im a huge doomer but this week is looking chill with MT
sure its not exactly great
but it feels so much better knowing ur not competing with aug on the dps charts
young swan
not what im talking about
south kayak
I don't think xan is serious
young swan
design is poor
south kayak
capstones moment
young swan
same specs since bfa moment
barren coral
if this another "burst reliance is bad" then idk
south kayak
same specs since bfa moment
Talent tree rework when
barren coral
i like the playstyle, i wouldnt be playing fury if i didnt
wide escarp
what website is that?
young swan
target capped garbage but arent even good in those target caps
young swan
antithetical talents
south kayak
Liking the playstyle doesn't even mean you like the talent trees
barren coral
Liking the playstyle doesn't even mean you like the talent trees
oh then i agree
young swan
execute useless button unless being buffed by 100%
barren coral
i think slayer talent tree is a joke right now
young swan
cd desync dogshit if u play AM
south kayak
Slayer tree is the least of fury's problems
south kayak
real
young swan
but those things are keeping it afloat
south kayak
that's why I i'm gonna play something else until we get a rework
barren coral
Slayer tree is the least of fury's problems
then what are we hating , the warrior tree or fury tree
south kayak
Shaman looking pog for .5
young swan
then what are we hating , the warrior tree or fury tree
all of the above
south kayak
ele rework
poggers
ascendance update
lava burst animation update
advertising shamans lmao
young swan
might as well just expect nothing
plucky ice
1% chance of happening lmao
south kayak
warrior is one of the few classes that really need talent rework
young swan
otherwise ur just gonna be mad
south kayak
good point lol
south kayak
otherwise ur just gonna be mad
That's my secret, I'm always mad
need AM
yo
steadfast or feet
young swan
which is which
barren coral
if we don't get rework in 11.1 i'm gonna be mad
rework by end of saga (not rlly)
young swan
tblast DR one has better general application
south kayak
steadfast is 5% hp and some hp after using IV
young swan
steadfast is 5% hp and some hp after using IV
this one is more niche use
barren coral
you guys need to play some other classes for a change of perspective
south kayak
this one is more niche use
I think the DR after using TB is kind of too conditional
barren coral
all class communities that are not meta whine about design, with the exception of rogues
young swan
its like warpaint vs invigorating fury
south kayak
especially outlaw rogues
young swan
all class communities that are not meta whine about design, with the exception o...
the difference is that all of them have received a rework in the past 2 years
and we havent
so
south kayak
^
Classes that have gotten reworks recently: Rogue, Paladin, Shaman, Warlock, Mage, Monk, Druid,
uh what else
radiant plank
the difference is that all of them have received a rework in the past 2 years
Dont say this, some specs (ret) use the excuse that the rework made them worse than before
plucky ice
have to whine and cry to blizz as much as rogues did
young swan
uh what else
literally every class except warrior
thats not a bit
literally every single one
maybe even every single spec?
its close but im not sure on every spec
plucky ice
again we come to where nobody at blizz plays warrior LMAO
midnight kite
Our talent trees especially fury are actually ass
young swan
arms tree is equally bad
midnight kite
It dosent matter if they add more utility to our tree if we have to spend like 22-24 talent points on raw damage
radiant plank
Arms tree is absolute horror
midnight kite
then fury ignoring almost all its capstones
young swan
warrior as a whole is just down bad as fuck
midnight kite
Look I get not all classes are the same
young swan
they've kept the lights on but thats about it
midnight kite
but Stamina Endurance training vs Veteran or Sanctified plates?????
young swan
for some reason group wide AMS is fine but group wide SR isnt
(not the actual reflect)
midnight kite
Why do we get half the effect of Veteran for twice as much talent points and theirs is comfy at the top of the tree and ours is in the bottom
tidal kindle
otherwise ur just gonna be mad
I expect noithing and get disappointedly mad every time wym
young swan
yeah pretty much
midnight kite
also not actually the biggest deal but wrecking throw is definently weaker this xpac compared to last right
junior gale
midnight kite
Ye, it feels so weak even on shields
Not like we really have the talent budget to take it especially with thane now eating +1/2
barren coral
also not actually the biggest deal but wrecking throw is definently weaker this ...
literally useless
torpid helm
Dropping Titan's Torment for Uproar seems to be a 50k DPS increase in AOE.
barren coral
was playing this in NW just now lol
no, cant wait for it to go live
what a stupid dungeon it currently is
casual 90 minutes wait time to fill a +9 NW
"hurr durr why nerf NW?????"
midnight kite
I just dont touch the dungeon
south kayak
They do need to nerf GB too but I think that might be coming
eager thorn
casual 90 minutes wait time to fill a +9 NW
this is legit just a you issue though ngl
midnight kite
If I que up a 10 for vault why would I ever Pick NW and risk getting walled by boss 3
barren coral
this is legit just a you issue though ngl
yes bro im sure this dungeon being completely empty and having a major incoming nerf is a me issue :)
eager thorn
the dg isnt empty though
barren coral
i actually work at blizzard
red berry
it is baffling that fury and arms haven't gotten redesigns relative to other classes when those trees beg for it
eager thorn
i fill nw keys in like 5-10 mins
barren coral
thats a you thing ngl
eager thorn
i also never said anything abt the nerf
idk i think most people dont wait that long to fill keys
midnight kite
We got like the mini rework in the middle of Vault of the Incarnates and things were looking promising but then they just forgot we exist
barren coral
i have tried multiple keys in 7-10 range for NW at vastly different schedules
barren coral
its so uniquely bad
low folio
Ya I avoid nw if it’s not for io. No gear I want and the 3rd boss in a pug can brick the key completely if a mistake is made
eager thorn
these seem to be filling p easily
vivid lagoon
I only do NW with my guild there is no way I will do with pugs no way
barren coral
solid evidence, mb
eager thorn
based prot pally in queue
barren coral
Ya I avoid nw if it’s not for io. No gear I want and the 3rd boss in a pug can b...
as it stands, I'm pretty confident to say absolutely no one under 2.3k Rio even knows how to do the fight without BL and spears
which doesnt help the situation
plucky ice
just remove the weapons and tune boss properly it's dumb
south kayak
these seem to be filling p easily
fill dn
low folio
I mean at a 10 without spears I don’t even know if you can do the fight depending on the comp you have. The add has too much health and you can’t one phase him without spears usually unless your a heavily geared group
Specially for a pug setting
barren coral
just remove the weapons and tune boss properly it's dumb
i like the weapons, i think the current choice to make it not stack is perfect
boss getting amazing tuning
30% less dmg on his wipe mechanic and 20% less HP
combnied with 10% less HP from xalatath
plucky ice
getting one shot with them is bad design you might as well leave if you don't get it
vivid lagoon
Even heavily gear you can’t the main problem is the add that kills the tank
south kayak
I wonder if Blizzard knows that Warrior needs a talent rework, they might think it's fine lol
barren coral
Specially for a pug setting
you can do it, but not with pugs, because they dont know how the boss works
low folio
I think the weapons gimmick was a failure of design. Nw wasn’t considered a good dungeon in shadowlands and it’s still
Not. They are just nerfing the boss
barren coral
DPS players do not use a single cooldown on the add
south kayak
I always cleave the add
barren coral
thats fine if you got the dmg for it
vivid lagoon
Once tank have two adds it’s game over
south kayak
thats fine if you got the dmg for it
Where's your pfp from btw?
barren coral
but if two adds spawn or youre always barely clutching 1 kill before it spawns, its not sustainable to heal
low folio
If you only focus the add, the boss take forever to even die and the adds will outspawn you once lust is over and you have no cds
barren coral
Where's your pfp from btw?
jojo p7
south kayak
oh okay
barren coral
If you only focus the add, the boss take forever to even die and the adds will o...
but it dies, which is a huge upgrade from bricked key
vivid lagoon
Dragon ball has new episode tomorrow
barren coral
if youre even in a position to not have spear+BL
it means you wiped and cant time anymore regardless
so the "normal" fight is about just getting your loot
low folio
It doesn’t die. What I meant was the adds will catch up on spawns and the boss won’t be dead yet. You run out of gas and get multiple adds eventually
That’s why add health is getting nerfed
plucky ice
should've picked plaguefall not nw, shit dung
south kayak
plaguefall is even worse
buoyant salmon
nw is fine
low folio
Nw wouldn’t be that bad if they didn’t try to design the 3rd boss around gimmick items
wheat iron
theater of pain is the real pain
south kayak
mits is the best SL dungeon
clever belfry
mits is the best SL dungeon
L
low folio
I like tazavesg more
south kayak
last boss sucks tho
buoyant salmon
mists is so flawed
south kayak
oh I forgot tazavesh existed
buoyant salmon
2nd and third boss beans
clever belfry
taza and halls are better
buoyant salmon
first boss mediocre beans
south kayak
ok halls is the best
barren coral
issue with third boss is that the hook can hit random ass shit
actually crazy we not getting this fixed yet ngl
buoyant salmon
maze is egregious
clever belfry
id argue even sanguini depths is better
barren coral
another week of PCT bricking your fight
south kayak
bring back halls of atonement
buoyant salmon
all the mega dungeons before dawn are top tear
dawn was fine but not on par with other megas
low folio
Nah sanguine one of the worst dungeons
buoyant salmon
sanguine was just too hard for non insane gamers
so i think ppl hvae a sour taste bc of that
clever belfry
sanguine was just too hard for non insane gamers
correct
it's like shrine of the storm
if u did tech it was super sick
low folio
It had red effects that almost perfectly matched the red carpets all over
clever belfry
absolutely unplayable for pugs
disclaimer here being i never had to suffer high keys in SD, it was just super fun pace to play in MDI
summer quail
Sanguine depths owned. Was rough before nerfs tho
buoyant salmon
spires was unplayably hard and shit
low folio
For me SD was like 3rd worst, but overall sl dungeons are better than df or tww to me
Spires sucks ass
I forgot it existed
summer quail
Spires actually the worst m+ dungeon ever imo
clever belfry
i think bfa siege
low folio
Honestly season 2 of tww with the other half of the dungeons is worrying me.
clever belfry
the fucking candle minecart minigame
summer quail
Siege and toldagor are pretty up there as well
clever belfry
low folio
Wonder if season 2 will have some
New worst dungeons ever contenders
clever belfry
maybe just let me play motherlode
turbid abyss
we shoudl be having our 4th spark this week right?
low folio
Ya
turbid abyss
i can't manage to get the 8th fractured spark no matter what i do
mythic raid boss down, heroic cleared, 7 m+ 9s/10s dungeons
but it just aint dropping
low folio
You done the weekly
turbid abyss
oh no its the weekly isnt it
low folio
Ya each week is a weekly for a spark and if you don’t do it, you can get it next week through the methods you tried
Should be the weekly that lets you choose between multiple activities
clever path
https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771
Cool gif
south kayak
I love BB
astral path
Indie dev btw
south kayak
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iQGkr0E0WmG9zKvdY?invite=cr-MSxiY...
oof that is bad
it showed up late
astral path
Must be a feature surely
astral path
tardy lark
happens fairly often sadly
astral path
Broken mob in GB
south kayak
oof
astral path
Looks like fury nerf time !
south kayak
and GB is the worst dungeon on top of that lmao
lavabender is fucking stupid
the Aoe they do after 50% when they ascend is insane
astral path
I love lavabender hitting me cross map
south kayak
lmao that happened to you too?
astral path
Leading to everyone in the key respawning and dying in repeat
astral path
15 deaths from 1 mob
south kayak
that dungeon is so buggy
astral path
Trying to tell them to stop releasing is useless
Key bricked
I just need the one trinket from GB
south kayak
prot pala damage kinda nice
buoyant salmon
1.2m is the standard for good tank deeps
south kayak
not that high a key
buoyant salmon
i think all tanks can reach that
south kayak
this tank was pretty good tbh
buoyant salmon
doesn’t seem to be a weak damage tank for m+
buoyant salmon
bdk owns aoe
south kayak
I heard sanlayn got buffed but it's worse for survivability than DB
buoyant salmon
im not sure about hero talents for bdk
fading sky
sanguine was just too hard for non insane gamers
i mean but WHEN u managed to play it correctly .. oh THOSAEA feels 😛
buoyant salmon
saw yoda trying san layn and he was pumping in a 10
iirc 1.5ish overall when i tuned in
fading sky
nerf tank dmg
buoyant salmon
idk how realistic that is high keys
tanks doing relevant damage is good
especially in an offensive build
south kayak
saw yoda trying san layn and he was pumping in a 10
Yeah I saw that video too
south kayak
buoyant salmon
oo i was watching a necro wake
i think from what i’ve heard san layn is just fundamentally flawed
you need a lot of targets to last a long time
which is super dangerous for blood dk
south kayak
which is super dangerous for blood dk
yeah the nerfs to healing severely impacted DKs the most lol
floral raptor
Have a 626 mark 626 sac and 619 transmitter the sim is saying Mark for Transmitter for a 3k dps increase wonder though is the fk around and potentially stuffing it up for like 2 seconds to grab an orb more than a 3k dps loss?
jovial holly
hi with mountain talents you still take berserker posture ?
fading sky
M+ is mark
raid id prob use transmitter the most
but 3k for what? a lot of more job ..
hmm dno, id prob go with mark just ease of use
what build do ppl use on thane
narrow fossil
Hi any macro to fast cast ravager?
fading sky
well more
floral raptor
M+ is mark
I know 3k dps is fk all if the transmitter gives me the platform and I have to walk over to it and stop hitting he boss its prob more than 3k
fading sky
#showtooltip
/use [@player] ravager
fading sky
I know 3k dps is fk all if the transmitter gives me the platform and I have to w...
ye so mark
all the time
tardy lark
doesnt matter
fresh ivy
for thane build do you kinda just switch out whirlwind for thunderclap rotation wise? xD
or am i missing something
and spend the 'procs' ofc
tardy lark
yes, WW is basically gone
theres a macro to just have WW/TC interchange with Thane conditionals
haughty wadi
i cant get thunder clap first dmg output
fresh creek
So hc mark is better then hc transmitter?
fresh ivy
still ok to have reck&avatar macroed together?
gilded pawn
i cant get thunder clap first dmg output
notice thunderclap is made of 3 components
If you add it up in details it should be similar
polar narwhal
still ok to have reck&avatar macroed together?
Yes
haughty wadi
now u say it, sound logic
polar narwhal
Though I would Macro Charge and Reck together and Avatar+Roar+Trinkets
gilded pawn
Idk about reck charge because there are plenty of times where you want to charge and build rage as tank gathers mobs
noble island
I just made a separate WA for reck + charge, then have a separate keybinding for avatar & reck + reck charge
fresh ivy
ty
errant vessel
Though I would Macro Charge and Reck together and Avatar+Roar+Trinkets
this is what I have as well
narrow fossil
Hi guys do you use thender blast on cd in ST?
polar narwhal
Idk about reck charge because there are plenty of times where you want to charge...
You should have a separate macro for Charge+Intervene anyways.
teal pine
fading sky
seems like theres a crafting bug no =?
polar narwhal
Just send it, yolo.
Concentration is there to achieve max rank, so its just a tooltip bug.
clever belfry
not max rank
floral raptor
Wait so we dont for ST build have to recklessness before we charge
clever belfry
next rank
polar narwhal
Hover over the item icon to see itemlevel.
polar narwhal
*next* rank
There is no rank after 5.
floral raptor
we just charge and blow cd's rampage spear and bs
clever belfry
There is no rank after 5.
you are absolutely missing the point of this pedantry
polar narwhal
grave stirrup
how do u guys have no hand cursor?
i know the ring wa but i thikn i still ahve the hand
grave stirrup
oh
polar narwhal
You can sometimes cheese patron orders by clicking the "grayed out" use best materials button to get higher quality
Reported that in beta but sometimes still works
Still lot of bugs in that interface
lean wasp
i almost got out dpsd by a 619 ret with no emblishments 🙂
tardy lark
embellishments are very minor
waxen vale
cuz its true?
tardy lark
@teal pine quick self censorship xd
teal pine
idk what you mean
hushed shore
embelishments get simmed super high for me though?
lean wasp
isnt weapon emblish like 2.5% around that ?
probably less because of ilvl diff, didnt sim myth weapon
tardy lark
Embellishments dont scale with ilvl like they did in DF
gilded pawn
embelishments get simmed super high for me though?
That’s the embellishment+ilevel gain
tardy lark
so they kinda blow
gilded pawn
The embellishment itself is whatever
lean wasp
Embellishments dont scale with ilvl like they did in DF
wait really
hushed shore
simmed wrists without the embelishment and higher ilvl and it was like a 3% loss in dps
lean wasp
hmmm
gilded pawn
3% seems exceptionally high
hushed shore
maybe i got wrong sim conditions
lean wasp
yeah probably something is off
tardy lark
95% dawnthread uptime 
hushed shore
using ascension+the doubling one
and is it normal that i get absolutely clapped by ret palas and frost dk, damage wise in m+?
hushed shore
ah, cool
lean wasp
95% dawnthread uptime <:okayge:917646812519739433>
wait what
minor vine
absolutely clapped is putting it gently
eager thorn
i personally have not seen a ret ive been impressed with
Same cos even if its big dps its just pressing divine storm
lean wasp
i mean ret is still better than fury just people in pugs are bad i guess
minor vine
yeah, unholy dk in necrotic wake when pulls nearly the entire room at first boss is chef's kiss
hushed shore
i was doing ara kara +10 yesterday an a 615 frost dk was doing my damage easily, he also died all the time. i sit at 620
maybe i am just bad because my m+ buddy who is playing frost mage at 626 gs out damages me at least by 1/3
hushed shore
but i also have the feeling many fights just favor ranged in this season. is this true?
lean wasp
kinda
hushed shore
frost mage is not bad but i dont think its better than fury in m+
he is also top damage in the raid and runs 99 parses. he is wildin
tardy lark
sounds more like a skill issue to me
lean wasp
minor vine
someone link that mythic princess prog gif
of that melee sweating it out
and the ranged mage singing while doing it
uncut scarab
JA CLAPPA
river reef
sounds more like a skill issue to me
I will never ask a question on this discord again 🙂 this is the most toxic class discord i've been to so far. People nowadays cannot communicate, all they type is some weird emojis thinking they're cool and funny 🙂 Grow up, seriously. I asked the same question in hunter discord and received a normal response. I'm done of this place, bye.
radiant plank
sullen dove
@young swan
sage rune
ravager meta?
tardy lark
wish i didnt have to play bs as slayer as well
teal pine
Im the opposite. Love ravager but not the biggest thane fan
river reef
<:dander:905248880910815302>
teal pine
cool that its playable now though
tardy lark
i really enjoy having my WW stack button actually do damage
and ravager is icing on top
eager thorn
I miss spamming ww for fun
eager thorn
someone link that mythic princess prog gif
indigo arch
I missed bladestorm and it's already deadge
velvet obsidian
I miss spamming ww for fun
Bonegrinder my beloved
tardy lark
I missed bladestorm and it's already deadge
its still the play as slayer though
indigo arch
Yea, wish they'd make slayer more worth for keys
since apparantly thane is just way better
(which I still need to investigate by doing said keys now that work week is done)
barren coral
thane makes fury from complete garbage to pretty ok in m+
eager thorn
fury hasnt been complete garbage
velvet obsidian
You also can still run BS with thane. The DPS difference is negligible.i run it because I like it better personally.
barren coral
fury hasnt been complete garbage
based on what data
indigo arch
As much as I like to doom it's not TOTAL garbage
barren coral
well
eager thorn
from what i've seen ppl in here say + my experience with m+
indigo arch
it's just horrid that ret/shaman/muti rogue get to crank dam and have infinitely more util
barren coral
it is playable if thats the threshold youre looking at
late cradle
loving thane in m+
barren coral
from what i've seen ppl in here say + my experience with m+
bro u cant be looking at nothing to base your opinion, m+ is just aoe numbers
indigo arch
Honestly view the thane swap as a utility loss as well, since the stormbolt talent is a sidegrade if not downgrade due to forcing stun drs on random shit and increasing cd
late cradle
loving thane in m+
this is arakara 9
lament hinge
it's just horrid that ret/shaman/muti rogue get to crank dam and have infinitely...
well they have more damage in aoe and in st aswell
velvet obsidian
Lack of utility is brutal, and other classes do more damage. But we're not done cooking I think. Don't know if blizz will let us be great (they won't) but we might come out playable. 
indigo arch
Yea, WHILST having that util
barren coral
slayer fury is egregious in m+, relative to the current meta classes
indigo arch
which is why ppl (RIGHTLY) are dooming
eager thorn
bro u cant be looking at nothing to base your opinion, m+ is just aoe numbers
yes? aoe numbers are good in m+ and we do big aoe numbers, shockwave p good utility, good tankiness and survival options
barren coral
we dont 💀
indigo arch
And this is BEFORE roar/odyn cap changes coming
eager thorn
you don't maybe
barren coral
lost cause ill just move on
velvet obsidian
Slayer is good in lower keys where the burst is all that matters. If you have sustained that's when Thane pulls ahead.
late cradle
I barely need healing compared to other DPSs and reflect & shockwave are awesome
eager thorn
lost cause ill just move on
ur name is p accurate
barren coral
Slayer is good in lower keys where the burst is all that matters. If you have su...
true i top parse my heroic queue dung idk what people are saying
fury aoe bad? never heard of this
velvet obsidian
5- you should run slayer still probably. Nothing lives long enough. After that start running Thane.
barren coral
ur name is p accurate
gz bro the 1000th person to make this joke in the wrong context
hushed shore
this is arakara 9
on which gs is that?
barren coral
i give you the star of irony layers
late cradle
on which gs is that?
gear ilvl? I think I was 621 there
barren coral
im so happy i play a class with BUSTED aoe numbers to PUMP in M+
who's with me ?????
eager thorn
also im looking now at wowhead/icy veins/u.gg, none of them have fury below b
if b constitutes total garbage then fair enough i agree with you
velvet obsidian
true i top parse my heroic queue dung idk what people are saying
Istg that's what blizz balanced us around. Gotta give them time to hopefully understand that they were flat wrong and we were right.
I won't argue that our numbers still kinda suck, but we're still cooking. You can cope, you can doom, or you can CLAP and not give a fuck because blizz will always love wizards more than you and that's just how it is.
barren coral
i mean in this current state as is
im perfectly happy with warr
fury specifically
great pvp, OK m+ with thane, and we're still dps meter chieftains in the most important prog fights
but i do wish slayer wouldnt get offset NERFS just to force MT to be viable at something
thats just dumb
velvet obsidian
I have suggestions that I wish they'd consider. Specifically rampage/execute buffs and delete powerful enrage.
livid marsh
we are only dps meter chieftains because blizzards boss design in this tier is "just throw a bunch of adds in"
barren coral
yeah but at the end of the day who cares why we are strong
this will only become an issue
late cradle
we need a little ST buff still
barren coral
if the next content doesnt follow this design pattern
late cradle
and arms needs a lot of love
velvet obsidian
Arms keeps getting ricochet bullets meant for fury.
livid marsh
i care, because i dont do raid prog and we sucked hard in m+
velvet obsidian
'Nerf Warbringer (Warbreaker) damage!!!'. Wtf is that change even?
misty sierra
Don't really care about raid tbh, u always needs at least one warrior and all I gotta do is be the best option in my guild for that spot
barren coral
there's like 5 arms players total, blizz knows the collateral dmg is not hitting anybody for now
velvet obsidian
I mean honestly though, who plays arms? Literally equip another weapon and be fury.
barren coral
I mean honestly though, who plays arms? Literally equip another weapon and be fu...
me on kyveza/silkran
misty sierra
Mixing up might be fun
barren coral
because what the fuck is fury ST even ? :DDDDDDD
velvet obsidian
Would you rather have one big sword, or two big swords? Who looked at that and said 'nah I want one sword and no magic pls'
velvet obsidian
because what the fuck is fury ST even ? :DDDDDDD
Swap to Aug for better ST than fury
radiant plank
because what the fuck is fury ST even ? :DDDDDDD
Nearly the same as arms after nerfs
barren coral
Swap to Aug for better ST than fury <:keks:936231610850897992>
sadly not even joking
radiant plank
If you havent killed Princess yet you are better off progging that fight as fury
ngl
velvet obsidian
I know, I've seen the logs.
barren coral
If you havent killed Princess yet you are better off progging that fight as fury
im being gatekept AOTC by people who cant look at a bigwigs countdown
hopefully this weekend is happening
misty sierra
Love standing outside on Princess hoping a random healer will look my way
For once I can use my one heal please macro in the correct context
jolly mist
MY MAGE IS SO SPOONFED
i got 4p in 1 day
had champ changeling warbound
holy fk
its been like 3 days since it dinged
frozen mirage
Is Thane fury m+ guide updated? Or will it change after anniversary patch
inner shadow
does anyone have concoction of death weakaura? the trinket that stuns you if you dont jump
main halo
is there a macro to like cast ravanger on target or focus?
loud nexus
Just on cursor
main halo
thanks
night relic
does anyone have concoction of death weakaura? the trinket that stuns you if you...
yeah unequip and vendor it
warm crag
does anyone have concoction of death weakaura? the trinket that stuns you if you...
or you make one yourself its not that bad
thats wago if you dont know
lapis slate
You're set to legacy, not retail
clever belfry
@hallow sphinx maybe shouldnt have played prot in key?
tardy lark
noober
warm crag
noober
tardy lark
placid cliff
is the Trinke from Timewalk good?
forest owl
noble yew
did yall also see that or am i trippin?
warm crag
someone sniped them quick i assume
frozen mirage
Haha i saw someonne put a 1930's slang in chat
warm crag
you do get 565 vermeidung which is crazy
twilit zenith
guys all raid in hc singleterget now? i mesn if u are 615+
fiery hare
night mist
Guys
Mountain Thane got some buffs and I was wondering, is it now in pair with Slayer?
Or still really behind?
warm crag
can play both in m+ depending on key level one will pull ahead probs
you should still only slayer in raid unless you know exactly what you're doing
tranquil grove
Or still really behind?
simming higher for me
night mist
The thing is with Mountain Thane on 2nd boss mythic for reclear I simmed 7 millions higher than a BM hunter
Which shouldn't be possible on boss dmg
And the BM hunter is not a bad player
warm crag
what do you mean you simmed 7 millions higher
night mist
Is it heavy rng based?
turbid gull
you're too good on sims
night mist
what do you mean you simmed 7 millions higher
Sorry simmed no, did 7 millions more dmg than him lol
Said sim because brain fart
tranquil grove
Were you cleaving the adds?
night mist
Nono I'm talking about boss dmg alone
He did 280 million, way ahead of everyone else but i did 287 millions
And I don't even know how
Just pressed stuff
tranquil grove
then you're pro mate 😄
night mist
what were parses looking like
sec
warm crag
your purpose in that fight is to blow up the adds either way so
desert cloud
is thane > slayer in council ?
warm crag
i think so but you should also just spec arms or just focus on playing the fight correctly
warm crag
is the Trinke from Timewalk good?
i was informed this trinket is really good but sim yourself to be sure
gleaming siren
@warm crag Chessmate you were unaffected because you refuse to equip shield
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> Chessmate you were unaffected because you refuse to equip ...
i do not own one
maybe trade me one?
gleaming siren
Maybe loot one you noober?
warm crag
rude
gleaming siren
I looted mine Tuesday
warm crag
maybe i should convince espen to wimmywonwon you
gleaming siren
Nooooo
oblique trail
gleaming siren
I will allow it if Wimmywonwon takes my place
warm crag
schmidi hop in we're watching brokken
gleaming siren
<a:mualanidance:1289177846450753656>
balls
warm crag
<a:mualanidance:1289177846450753656>
gleaming siren
Banezi and Spomgiewarr being unaffected by Thane Bug and laughing at me maybe I should never tank akey for Spomgie again
warm crag
spomgiewarr needs many weeklies
oblique trail
I would never laugh at you Schmidi
warm crag
handle it
sullen dove
mt might be a little crazy
hollow bloom
mt might be a little crazy
no, it is like it meant to be, a beast in aoe
inner shadow
+9 stonevault
sullen dove
perish in flames
hollow bloom
much more preferable overall
gleaming siren
PLEASE stop bombarding me with these images
chrome plover
+16 Neltharus
warm crag
nerf boomie or
sullen dove
guys how much dps should i be doing in a +16 nelth
iron portal
woven narwhal
Ok, im going to ask a dumb question as im still pretty new to the warrior , execute. so on my bar it lights up every so often, yet i have a tracker that tracks stacks of "Marked for Execution" so if execute lights up, i dont press it unless the WA showing 3 stacks lights up? or . do i press it and just make sure when the WA lights up i give it a higher priority? sorry, im trying to understand, i tend to be twitch happy and play wack-o-mole, i see a button light up and makes me think i need to press it. sorry for the noob question.
livid marsh
if you have less than 3 use execute before its about to expire
unreal pewter
woven narwhal
thanks ,so press it if its about to expire, else wait for 3 stacks. i think sometimes im waiting to long and its expiring, before i was jsut pressing it when it glowed, thanks hopefully
i can get better at watching this.
somber elk
Guys when do we execute as thane in m+ Build?
pearl crypt
slayer still better in raid yeah?
warm crag
Guys when do we execute as thane in m+ Build?
the wowhead guide has priority sections just click the talents you play as thane
slayer still mostly better unless you know exactly what youre doing
modest loom
c tier gang represent
pearl crypt
modest loom
craggy moss
willv odyns nerv come? and why xD
craggy moss
will this kill fury?
ivory ingot
tardy lark
you will still be able to take all the fun away from others on rashanan and ansurek dont worry
tardy lark
basically same ST sim as arms 🤷♀️
warm crag
everyone who thinks of classes in tiers in 2024 shall be cursed with 10% shrinkage per decade
ivory ingot
Or you know just play prot
oblique trail
I'd rather not
tardy lark
that would mean tanking
warm crag
speccing prot is what caused the thane bug no ty
ivory ingot
The life
tardy lark
which i avoid as much as possible
ivory ingot
Weak
oblique trail
I've specced prot but had no Thane issues
sullen dove
just rip 900k overalls still no idea what I’m doing
slam blast and ignore pain
only 3 buttons needed
warm crag
I've specced prot but had no Thane issues
shrink