fury

[radiant plank]

stop

utility talk

not needed
wont hlep

[errant vessel]

ye I don’t wanna use more globals that aren’t dmg related

rally is enough

[native wadi]

Rally is shit

And utility is always welcome

Check the top setups

I prefer dmg too tho

[south verge]

In m+ rally is pretty shit in raid it is pretty cool.

[rocky wharf]

rally in raid is clutch

[honest rampart]

Hello Guys i wanna check Prot warrior wa but it says that i dont have access to the link

Anyone can help?

[radiant plank]

[smoky vale]

what do you mean

[empty crest]

youre in the fury channel btw

[barren coral]

anyone knows critcake m+ MT buil?

[eternal sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6gN1lOSLPw @barren coral

[barren coral]

ty

[molten wing]

im just too spoiled by titanic

to not play it :/

[warm crag]

what is titanic

[golden hare]

RMS Titanic was a British ocean liner that sank on 15 April 1912 as a result of striking an iceberg on her maiden voyage from Southampton, England, to New York ...

[eternal sundial]

Of auto enrage

[warm crag]

this is fucked up

[spring oar]

Anyone know a macro that replaces WW with TC if Thane is selected?

[golden hare]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Lightning Strikes]Thunder Clap; Whirlwind

[spring oar]

Ty :)!

[elfin vortex]

Am i the only one that doesn't really like MT ? It feels very weird using thunder clap , kinda slow

And i would like to use it with anger management than reckless abandon

[unreal shell]

I didn't like it for a few keys, then I realised I was doing more damage on more packs, and THEN I realised I was a giant lightning boi

and now I'm happy

[night void]

Rally is shit in every way

[warm crag]

the better defensive options are nice

[warm crag]

self report

[smoky vale]

rally is broken in raid

[hollow elk]

hey i just realized that the odyns fury shortened avatar does not give you two charges of thunder blast. is this proper or a bug?

[rocky wharf]

sad loud voice

[clever belfry]

Deaths drive is the best defensive

[warm crag]

isnt it just leech

[clever belfry]

Yea but bad

[hollow elk]

was hopping i could get 4 thunder blasts if i played with avatar and odyns but i guess thats no go

[glad marten]

Tooltip on MT capstone says "When you cast Avatar" - The one you get from Odyns is not cast, it "grants"

[hollow elk]

yeah

freaking technnicisms

[warm crag]

5% more stam means i can deez nuts

[glad marten]

Much like the random Avatar 4 second procs from Lightning Strikes, this grants - not casts

[clever belfry]

hmmm true statement

[hollow elk]

no fun allowed..

[glad marten]

Atleast you guys are getting Thunderblasts, mine are bugged - not proccing.

(on Bloodthirsts, that is)

[warm crag]

i dont think you can spend the 2 thunder blast charges by the time you'd want to OF

[warm crag]

you are sent to slayer jail

or deleting your WTF folder once in a while (doesnt always work)

[glad marten]

[hollow elk]

yep i just tested it and it is working for me

[vague copper]

On Mistcaller my enemy healthbar most of the time hide the icon over the head on the damn adds.. Anyone have a good solution on that? 🙂

[hollow elk]

do you use plater

[vague copper]

Threatplate

[hollow elk]

i dont know what that is but. if it has settings maybe play around with it

[chrome plover]

you need to make it smaller and/or lower

or add some transparency

[clever belfry]

bind hide nameplates

[chrome plover]

or that

[vague copper]

Yeah was thinking of that

[clever belfry]

And hide nameplates as she goes into the transition

[glad marten]

Or that small Indie company could fix their shit

[vague copper]

Give a WA or Addon that rise the damn icon insteed 😄

[chrome plover]

or if your addon can do it, you can specifically make that mob have tiny/no nameplate

you can do that in plater

[clever belfry]

the icon can not be moved by auras

its not part of the API

[teal coral]

what are people generally crafting this week?

[warm crag]

i mean this does look like an insane issue to even pinpoint ye

[clever belfry]

you could however make an aura that changes your nameplate offset while the transition is active

[vague copper]

mm

[clever belfry]

moving the plate out of the way of the mark :3

[vague copper]

Playede around with it some days ago and made em thinner and moved the debuff to under.. Did not help

So guess a macro that hide the bars is the way

[south kayak]

Ret needs to get shafted

Why is a spec that has a cd of 30s doing bigger burst than specs with 1.5m or 2m cds

That's just stupid

[spring oar]

Are we thaning in raids? since changes

[south kayak]

No

Maybe Ovinax mythic but that's it

and silken if you're playing fury instead of arms

[clever belfry]

its fine on ovinax

less parasite dam, more spider dam

roughly same on boss

Worms kinda same same too

[south kayak]

what do you think of silken?

I know thane probably does more damage to 2 targets than slayer but idk

[clever belfry]

I won't grief (play fury) on silken

[south kayak]

That's true, arms is better

[spring oar]

Might try it on ovinax tbh, same anger management?

[clever belfry]

so I have not thought about it

[clever belfry]

i only tried RA
either would work tho

[south kayak]

Saw gajeel playing fury on silken

yday

is he griefing lol

[clever belfry]

AM fucks your boss dam

[clever belfry]

gajeel known griefer (king)

[south kayak]

Would be as bad in .5

so that's something to look forward to

[clever belfry]

bro just has no arms gear

[south kayak]

lmao

wouldn't arms be better anyway

even with no arms gear on 2t

[sudden tusk]

eh i mean

[clever belfry]

in .5 AM on ovi is jus gonna be the play

[sudden tusk]

tbh even with arms gear the nerfs arms kept getting becuase of fury

makes fury still quite good on that boss

[south kayak]

You could play AM on many bosses depending on the kill time

[sudden tusk]

since you do want to kill the adds too

[south kayak]

^

exactly

and thane kinda good for that

too

[sudden tusk]

but id play RA still

[clever belfry]

me when the colossus arms

[south kayak]

(fuck colossus)

[eternal sundial]

The copa

[sudden tusk]

not sure id play thane on Silken

since the timings might not work out for damage amps

but i can try it once im on that fight

[clever belfry]

fuck i gotta do silken research

ill have to play it today

NOOOO

[south kayak]

What boss are you on now?

[sudden tusk]

silken but im not in til monday

so i have the weekend to prep

[proud leaf]

it's so sad to me how shit execute is in thane

button isn't even worth pressing

[south kayak]

You guys know what the Exterminate scythe model is?

https://www.wowhead.com/item=117373/frostscythe-of-lord-ahune

[eternal sundial]

Ask spngo for the funny Note he had

Seemed like propa timers

[south kayak]

morning phil

[clever belfry]

i have timers

[south kayak]

did u play any thane

[eternal sundial]

Dk talk 🔇

[warm crag]

silken court sucks 💯

[eternal sundial]

I only did raid and only arms thus far

[clever belfry]

But just cd timers isn't what i need to prep

[eternal sundial]

I C

[warm crag]

just rotate noob

[clever belfry]

i need to see painpoints to be prepared

[south kayak]

ok, any colossus in raid?

[eternal sundial]

No

[warm crag]

idk i tried colossus but schmidi omega rolled me

maybe red side just does inf more dam than blue side

[south kayak]

hey spongie i saw you in a stankie video guide

for bloodbound horror

[clever belfry]

red is kill add side?

[south kayak]

looked like you were owning

[eternal sundial]

Icic

[wise salmon]

sorry to ask but in raid mythic we played slayer the most of the fight ans go thane on ovinax + silken

[south kayak]

If you are playing fury on silken yeah

[warm crag]

what

[wise salmon]

nah going arm but asking for the buff of thane if it's viable just on ovinaxx or for other fight

[chrome plover]

tbh I think slayer is still considerably better on ovinax

[wise salmon]

thanks for the response

[clever belfry]

i dont think considerably is the correct word here

[warm crag]

oh

[clever belfry]

I did same same damage on clappa vs spinner

[warm crag]

star aligning moment

[south kayak]

wait was that not stankie video?

[clever belfry]

Just different damage

[south kayak]

oh yeah it is

[warm crag]

idk what u were referencing man

or well didnt know

[south kayak]

https://youtu.be/W4MahUX-GJM?t=162

[eternal sundial]

Do the stankie leg

[chrome plover]

I think I maybe have a mountain thane skill issue

[clever belfry]

furor kriega

[south kayak]

it's at this time

[clever belfry]

it's kinda ass having to spend your TBs, press OF, press CBs, refresh BB

ravager is a mess of short cd shit on clappa

[bitter palm]

SPOINGUS FAMOUS IN STANKIE GAMING MYTHIC BLOODBOUND HORROR GUIDE - EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW | NERUB'AR PALACE TWW

[south kayak]

me when i have to press thunder blast

[warm crag]

Mythic Bloodbound Horror Guide - Everything you need to know | Nerub'ar Palace TWW

[south kayak]

how's the clappa?

[warm crag]

<12481208368132

[bitter palm]

<12481208368132

[south kayak]

<12481208368132

[warm crag]

idk im not fully convinced

and it doesnt help that schmidi was afflicted by a skill issue (no lightning strike copa hack)

[south kayak]

I don't think it feels bad, it's just very overwhelming

for a lack of a better word

[bitter palm]

u can drop of

idk if u are talking about raid

or m+

[clever belfry]

you're not

[south kayak]

yeah and get gapped even harder by ret

[clever belfry]

dropping OF

on ovinax

[bitter palm]

oh on ovinax

[clever belfry]

if you do, you should be shot

[bitter palm]

i will shoot you personally

[clever belfry]

go on

[south kayak]

[bitter palm]

[south kayak]

me when quesiton mark

[clever belfry]

u wouldnt

[bitter palm]

i mean

isnt slayer just gonna be better anyway

cause burst

[fading sky]

Cant u drop of ? Or is it titanic rage u drop?

[south kayak]

well there are mobs that outlive burst

like the spiders

[bitter palm]

not my problem

[clever belfry]

Clappa Just does more spider dam

[bitter palm]

seismic is giga

[clever belfry]

but its even more rng than slayer cause u need TB procs

and slayer just reaps the storm

[south kayak]

and honestly paraistes are getting fucked over too far

[bitter palm]

for 3t

[clever belfry]

depends on comp

[barren coral]

is there an addon that removes damage numbers from targets youre not directly tabbed on at the moment?

[south kayak]

you can tag me i don't mind

[warm crag]

md house

[bitter palm]

@south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak @south kayak

[clever belfry]

i turn off the silly ping instantly

its jus habbit

[south kayak]

listen here you little shit

[bitter palm]

misdirection house

[clever belfry]

i leave it on when i respond to people that did not type for a long time

[south kayak]

can you like permanently disable it

i have to do it manually every time i respond to someone

that's annoying

[bitter palm]

play blord colossus on ovinax

it cranks

[clever belfry]

me when our raidleader rips "soti can you stop mding me" (he is an rsham) on ovinax

[bitter palm]

(it doesnt)

[clever belfry]

no

i just press it before i press send on phone

[south kayak]

it does the opposite of cranking

[warm crag]

i think this is reasonable

[south kayak]

MD the fury warrior

[bitter palm]

mayhaps

[clever belfry]

me when [@party1] macro

[bitter palm]

longsweep colossus

🧐

[clever belfry]

Yes

[warm crag]

i kind of want to scream at tank every time i get meleed on ovinax

[south kayak]

arms needs aoe buffs

SEVERELY

[warm crag]

cause if that shit crits im gone

[clever belfry]

Even if it doesn't half the sets ure gone

[south kayak]

arms is so sad in aoe

please fix

[clever belfry]

cause random tank explosion right before

[warm crag]

panzerexplosion

[south kayak]

buff cleave by 100%

[bitter palm]

wym its sad in aoe

[south kayak]

shit damage

[clever belfry]

Cleave can suck my balls

[bitter palm]

its not

u just cant

[warm crag]

this is a self report

[bitter palm]

st and aoe

[low folio]

They made arms rotation more boring in tww too, as far as the base kit is concerned imo

[bitter palm]

box...

[south kayak]

I don't play arms, this is from what i've seen and read

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[noble yew]

any1 has a opener macro they can send? i may or may not have deleted mine...

[warm crag]

even bigger self report

[south kayak]

lmao

i do play it in raid

not m+ is what i meant

[bitter palm]

well yeah as arms if u want to aoe

u have to change ur talents a lot

[south kayak]

yeah thats the issue

[warm crag]

enough floundering

you must accept your defeat

[bitter palm]

Anyone can help me understand why this macro doesn't work?

#showtooltip
/castsequence [@cursor]reset=20 Recklessness,Avatar, Thunder Blast,Thunderous Roar,Ravager,Odyn's Fury

[south kayak]

and that's why warrior needs a talent rework

right now

fuck shaman

[warm crag]

i think you won't do this again

[warm crag]

oh no talents are doing exactly what they're supposed to oh noo rework this right now!

[bitter palm]

nah

arms needs a rework

[low folio]

You need spaces in certain spots I think but I haven’t done a cast sequence in a while

[bitter palm]

pwar is cracked fury is good (capstones suck)

[warm crag]

warr talent tree needs a rework but not for the reason you put forward

[south kayak]

It's not because of that, it's just how bad the talents are for some specs like fury

capstones suck

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail thoughts on balls????

[clever belfry]

UF

[south kayak]

You are right about that, i was just sadge

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[south kayak]

lmao

get 6%'d

bozo

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-it's-so-over-its-over-its-so-over-we're-back-gif-16588749771587271250

[bitter palm]

buff reck

[south kayak]

add radiant glory for fury

OF procs Reck/avatar

8 seconds

[eternal lance]

[south kayak]

we're on "we're so back" for thane train

then it's "it's over" for .5

[molten wing]

nah 0.5 , AM Rises

[bitter palm]

.5 is where it begns

[south kayak]

[heavy dock]

God i hope

[bitter palm]

begins

AM is gonna fuck

[south kayak]

If they do go forward with with the soft caps, which they will most likely

I want compensations!

[runic cypress]

Just reroll and don't think about it

[outer cedar]

Thane or slayer which is best now??

[runic cypress]

It's just a game

[south kayak]

That's true but I really like fury

[bitter palm]

[jaunty yew]

Slayer in raids, Thane in M+

[south kayak]

and it's hard to reroll even if it's not that good

[molten wing]

Warrior is perfectly fine to do any type of content , if you wanna push only then you can think of rerolling

[outer cedar]

Thank you and.. use talent in wowhead.. right?

[low folio]

I would just play a different game instead of rerolling personally

[south kayak]

I'll be more than fine if they nerfed the outliners but they're living in a fantasty world where Enha/mages and dks don't exist

[molten wing]

yeah same i'm gonna start raid logging

[outer cedar]

Thank you

[south kayak]

We're on Queen hc rn so i'm gonna have to play fury lmao

[outer cedar]

Thank you

[molten wing]

and then i'm gonna open League , lock in Tahm Kench Top and enjoy my day

[proud leaf]

to be fair, slayer is pretty perfect for that fight

[molten wing]

Box you finally got curve

or you guys still having issues there

[radiant knot]

🫃

[chrome plover]

[south kayak]

Raid tonight so we'll see lmao

[vague stone]

Guys when 11.0.5 goes live our Thunderous Roar and Odyn Fury will be caped at 5 targets or will be the same as now at 8 targets ?

[woeful vine]

ODYN'S FURRY! OKAY PRIME SUBS IN THE CHAT!!!

[radiant plank]

What a creation

[sage cloak]

question

in aoe scenarios. do we prio Bloodbath over crushing blowW?

[radiant plank]

You should in 5 and above targets

[warm crag]

soft cap will be lowered to 5, yeah

[vague stone]

.... How much will afect us this?

[warm crag]

check the numbers in #updates-midnight

i dont think it matters overly unless you do MDI pulls in m+

[clever belfry]

AI asmongold

[clever belfry]

x axes num targets

y axes dmg done

[south kayak]

[warm crag]

i never fight more than 3.4 enemies

[clever belfry]

ok i can floor it

so its less nice to look at

[magic mortar]

Slayer or Thane for Queen?

[jaunty yew]

Slayer

[clever belfry]

i think this is just

worse

[worthy mountain]

fuck me fam first night of brood prog, using northern sky packs, our egg markers are getting insane input lag

[magic mortar]

Culling or Brutal Finish still up for debate on which to take or still taking Culling?

[clever belfry]

straight up doesnt really matter

[bitter palm]

mfs are overreacting as fuck

for the softcap

sure its undeserved and a weird nerf but its not that bad

surely 11.1 mini rework to make us monsters at 5t

[clever belfry]

cope

[bitter palm]

13.2.5 rework

[south kayak]

lmao

[south kayak]

after .5 we're getting a big rework

[vague stone]

In NW first pull with bl there is 10+ targets, in NW it s 5+ targets almost every pull

[smoky vale]

did you invert the function?

[clever belfry]

no this just displays total damage

[smoky vale]

can i see what you graphed

also love to see the desmos conversion

🙏

[barren coral]

MT feels fucking perfect

except ravager

[smoky vale]

then play bladestorm

[barren coral]

ravager in boss fights sucks

[barren coral]

u joking or nah

[smoky vale]

no play what you enjoy playing

why are you subjecting yourself to something you dont like

[vague stone]

I m wandering why Blizz bring back BS to fury if they are nerfing and nerfing again and again until nobody plays it...

[barren coral]

10% SPREAD damage seems crazy to me

like how is that a hero talent anymore

and "buffing" MT by just nerfing slayer is also infuriating

[warm crag]

you mean culling?

[smoky vale]

hi spongie :3

[warm crag]

salutations

[teal pine]

Idk the thane buffs were just really big

It definitely wasn’t just slayer being nerfed

[violet moss]

I am more curious about this though

Should you use culling or Brutal finish for single target?

Both seem good

[smoky vale]

culling

[teal pine]

Culling is still better st

[violet moss]

hmm okok

[teal pine]

You just have more reason to go brutal finish for m+ now

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1293883135938924557/IMG_7225.jpg?ex=6708fe12&is=6707ac92&hm=63abcf84d8f56817661e8bf422eddaec7f555eb2e655f3a133a7f48fac4f210e&

[sly pilot]

build from wow head for mountain thane is good?

[clever belfry]

what the meowsies doing

[bitter palm]

what software is that

[bitter palm]

plotting

https://tenor.com/view/60fps-knee-slapper-spongebob-milkcord-gif-27449345

[violet moss]

Is that literally the reason they nerfed culling to 10% ? So people would be more tempted to use brutal in aoe settings xd

[smoky vale]

desmos

graphing calculator

anda

i cant get past this

shit does not curve along with y = x

[teal pine]

Idk the culling nerf was just really weird. Feels like they thought it was an aoe talent

No reason to nerf fury’s st at all

[warm crag]

i will reroll when warbringer finally gets nerfed

[smoky vale]

🙂

[teal pine]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-pads-cute-gif-5843339

[clever belfry]

why are you doing +6 and + 9

[bitter palm]

how does softcap work even

[clever belfry]

the sqrt factor is a multiplication of the dmg per target hit, so you want to multiply that with x

[smoky vale]

ah

[south kayak]

Is there a reason to play slayer in m+ now tho

[forest owl]

it had the name bladestorm in tooltip so blizzard being blizzard did what they do best.

[smoky vale]

i was only going off of sqrt(cap/x)

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

total_dmg = num_targets * sqrt_factor

[clever belfry]

mualanidance

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/bOnH7.gif

drututt enjoyer

[clever belfry]

balls lore moment

every cck has a brother

[smoky vale]

?

cck

[clever belfry]

add an o

[eternal sundial]

Stahlwaren

Hooly

[smoky vale]

wait ccok

[clever belfry]

yes ofc

[smoky vale]

or occk

[south kayak]

coc

cone of cold

[meager gyro]

I’m a psychopath, I eat cck for breakfast

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1253376142111674378/piabuse-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[clever belfry]

her

[meager gyro]

Also your sqrt is wrong

• sincerely the math guy

[clever belfry]

no its not

[bitter palm]

so its just f(n) = d * n for n<=5 and d * sqrt 5/n for n>5

[clever belfry]

bro really had to put a dn joke in there

and then not even set d = 1 for for n <= 5

[bitter palm]

ballz

[clever belfry]

bälle

[meager gyro]

That one wrong too

[clever belfry]

?

okay provide me with an accurate expression then 👍

(i know mine is correct)

[meager gyro]

You have to multiply it so by 2 and divide the answer by 2

[clever belfry]

shut the fuck up

thanks

[bitter palm]

he is right

[sudden thicket]

has anyone cooked up any good AM builds either slayer or thane
just changing from RA to AM knocks off 6% so no idea how to reach the <1% [mentioned here](#updates-midnight message)

[bitter palm]

by waiting

for rb/bt buffs to come live

[signal gazelle]

wowhead hasnt been updated in a while

what build are we running m+? thane?

[sudden thicket]

i thought they did already

[chrome plover]

11.0.5

[pure echo]

Is the thunder blast issue fixed or still weirdly broken?

[chrome plover]

(22nd october)

[smoky vale]

its updated

[compact warren]

Yo, is the wowhead thane rotation priority chart accurate or is there some new tech?

[meager gyro]

You just cooked it up, go thane like that

[teal pine]

Still weirdly broken

[bitter palm]

am is not bad at all atm

as thane

just kinda ass st

[meager gyro]

Just play with OP specs like arcane mage and your ST won’t matter

[bitter palm]

bm hunter

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[teal pine]

I don’t trust any arcane mage

In m+

99% chance just a fotm reroll that doesn’t know the class

[clever belfry]

even mages dont know how to play arcane

theyre all fire players

(brain dmg)

[teal pine]

Frost and fire both blast m+ and arcane probably could

But they won’t

[winter compass]

It amazes me the classes that I do not trust in M+ right now. I am knocking on 2500's back door and refuse to run with any priest as a healer. Have a hard time trusting mages. Have a hard time running this week without a DK and Shaman in the group. It is crazy that they have driven the utility of some classes through the roof. But a warrior can make big numbers with little utility and we are the assholes lol...

[meager gyro]

Fire it lit right meow yo, even the rotation fun . Probably best version of fire ever.

[south verge]

Priests are fucked this season for no other reason than that their dispel is bad.

[chrome plover]

meanwhile I drop pct every 45 seconds as an enhance

[south kayak]

what's pct

[fiery hare]

poison cleanse totem

[south kayak]

oh right

[meager gyro]

A psychopath works at this desk btw. Uses some tool called raidbots premium to determine if fire mage alt is becoming main.

[chrome plover]

im slamming that shit all week i feel so useful

xalatath dares to speak and there's already pct dispelling her

[meager gyro]

That’s the requirement this week, a shaman in every group sub +12.

[fiery hare]

cant priests mass dispel that or no bueno?

[south verge]

Very nice if Blizzard to make one of four new affixes the shaman affix. Let shamans be the hero class of wow for a while.

[south kayak]

they can but mass dispell is liike 1 min cd

[meager gyro]

Yeah but it’s a small area, 2 min cd, and for healers uses way too much mana.

[empty crest]

affix cd is 1.5mins right?

[south kayak]

oh right

idk then lol

[chrome plover]

2

[empty crest]

oh well, if mass dispel is 2mins then whatever

rip priest

[south kayak]

they killed that shit after the spriest meta lmao

[chrome plover]

they nerfed it mid df

from like 45s to 2mins

[mossy fox]

i just continue pressing buttons and let the team get the debuff off me

[south kayak]

gamer

I watched some of your stream yday

[chrome plover]

tbh it's not even that bad without pct

[coarse nest]

This is the way

[chrome plover]

sometimes i forgot and didnt even notice

[south kayak]

that tank with 99% uptime of Battle Stance LMAO

[mossy fox]

omg man

[meager gyro]

Nah to deathstrike ; I saw it.

[mossy fox]

40% shield block uptime or something too

[south kayak]

Defensive stacks literally 16% DR with 6% magic DR

and he never used it

[robust basin]

Doesn’t victory rush help with the affix too? We’re doing our part

[south kayak]

damn even i can do better than that lol

[mossy fox]

yeah i do press impending with it actually

[meager gyro]

Yeah press vr only if your team is setup where you don’t get an insta dispel

[agile light]

is fury playing mountain thane now with the changes? or sticking to slayer?

[mossy fox]

m+ thane, raid slayer

[rich canopy]

Pvp Fury or change to thane?

[inner harbor]

what about court? still slayer ?

[inner harbor]

pvp arms

[mossy fox]

court might be the exception but it's prolly very close either way

[radiant plank]

Court calls for colossus Arms

[bitter palm]

surely

[fast mural]

They just need to buff the dot damage amp more

[restive fiber]

why fury is weird capping rage and bad opener and punished for switching target and execute is shit

[lament lagoon]

y r they punished for switching tar

[restive fiber]

i don't know of a class that caps resources like fury

[smoky vale]

dk

[orchid dagger]

Pvp any really

Even Prot claps asscheeks

[errant vessel]

Because of the effect that makes you get increased haste per Rampage on the same target

Think it’s called Frenzy?

[restive fiber]

maybe they need to change it to debuff on target

[proud leaf]

worth running frenzied enrage instead of powerful? thane really feels like it needs more haste but sims are showing it's a pretty significant loss in dps

[unreal shell]

you answered your own question. If it sims significantly lower then don't do it 😄

[proud leaf]

boo

i always hope the sims are lying when i like the feel of something that's off meta

[unreal shell]

If you like it and don't care about the loss just do it anyway :>

[proud leaf]

oh i care

[jade cipher]

guys are we sure that authorityh of dephts is better? i just did a +9 mist and it did 19m for me

1.1% of my dps

[unreal shell]

[proud leaf]

read somewhere that radiant power has a tendency to fall off in dungeons during downtime

seems accurate, i only had 28.59% uptime in a 8 mists I just ran

[jade cipher]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cm1jHs84X1qcrNih1NbaAv

its a big loss for me rn

but authority of depths doing close to nothing for me also

[low folio]

In practice for me both are almost the same in overal key damage with frenzied having noticeable single target difference for me while powerful has bigger aoe burst

[proud leaf]

is this single target?

gotta be single target

[jade cipher]

it is single target

but with dungeon talents

Mountain thane

[low folio]

It might be my stat setup causing it though

[radiant plank]

Damaging foes may invoke it, applying Suffocating Darkness which periodically inflicts 23720 Shadow damage. The darkness may deepen up to 3 times. Cannot be applied to items lower than level 350.

I recommend reading tooltips

btw

if u read

it says that it has to stack up to 3 times

so when it cant stack, its weak

whilst radiant power can proc mainstat randomly

which in general is more powerful in dungeons

[jade cipher]

i am aware of that but if i decide to use 2x radiant power is it gonna hurt me big time in raid? and considering i play arms most raid bosses. which one is better to have on only 1 wepaon?

[gilded flicker]

Guys, i'm dumb and noob, but how my friend on raid play this build and goes better than I?:
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/azralon/Aiieen

HE goes Endurance Training and no Unhinged

No wild Strikes

[low folio]

He might just do his rotation better. He could also have better stats or better gear in general idk

[radiant plank]

Are you suure he played that build

[empty crest]

why do you post armory instead of logs lol

[gilded flicker]

Yes

[gilded flicker]

Prob

[radiant plank]

are u

Túrin

[low folio]

But ya if he has a worse talent build than you, he either is just better the class or better geared

Or getting pi I guess could help if your not looking at logs

[gilded flicker]

Yeah haha, are u Aiien ?

[radiant plank]

Noo

I just

you know

Both of you are playing the spec

horribly wrong

Looking at your logs

[gilded flicker]

i had a really horrible week, on my defense

but i would appreciate guidance

[radiant plank]

uhh

Start by reading a guide

and then following that up with hitting target dummies

Your rotation and talents are all over the place

[grim prism]

any in depth thane m+ guide out there

[proud leaf]

oh god

[gilded flicker]

I have read 😦 and spend lots of times on dummies

[grim prism]

the wowhead guides leave much to be desired

[radiant plank]

Spend more

If u actually did, your damage breakdown would not be rampage first by 12% when playing RA

and you wouldnt even be playing mountain thane in the raid

[gilded flicker]

THis week, i was testing MT

[radiant plank]

Well still my first point stands

[gilded flicker]

this wek should not be parameter

but most of the time i use more Rampage

[low folio]

I mean technically rampage would do more damage than crushing blow overall on thane

[radiant plank]

See

[gilded flicker]

should i just use to refresh the enrage, instead of using on cap fury?

[radiant plank]

this is why I think you havnt read the guides

[empty crest]

CB and BB are better than ramp

dont care about rage cap

[radiant plank]

See it says if enrage is not active

[gilded flicker]

lemme test with that priority

[proud leaf]

you know how you only really want to hit whirlwind if you're out of ww stacks?

same thing with rampage and rage right now

[gilded flicker]

i tought, as all others spenters...i should i was avoid cap

thats why

[wary fjord]

blizz should make it so rampage is highest priority at rage cap, smh blizz design is dumb

[radiant plank]

Well

dont think

read the guide

and follow it

[wary fjord]

Yeah, blizz is dumb

[radiant plank]

Thinking doesnt work with warriors

[gilded flicker]

i tought it was implicit

[empty crest]

yea gameplay isnt intuitive rn

[gilded flicker]

hahaha

Spenders = priority, at least on paladins, warlocks...shammies...that are others classes that i play

thats why

[radiant plank]

Yeaah but

[gilded flicker]

but ok, i'll try to test that, thanks

[radiant plank]

warrior isnt a paladin

or warlock

Just read a guide when picking up a spec

[gilded flicker]

I got it bruh

[radiant plank]

will work with other specs too

[gilded flicker]

I have read, and i didnt find that specific situation

cause i tought it was implicit, like a I said

but i got it

[radiant plank]

its the first thing if u scroll down to priority

on slayer

in single target

[proud leaf]

oh

you ran thane on ulgrax

interesting

did you run thane this whole raid?

[wanton wigeon]

ngl thane M+ is bis

[gilded flicker]

I ran MT on all bosses to test

[proud leaf]

yeah looking at your opener and casts your basic issue is hitting rampage way too much

[gilded flicker]

but i'm sick, yesterday i had to leave right before killing court cause i had to go the emergency

my eye ball was huge, i had some allergic stuff, most of the fight i was "one-eyeing"

[empty crest]

monka

[gilded flicker]

But yeah, i'll train to just hit rampage for enraged puroposes

[proud leaf]

also

[gilded flicker]

and focusing on BR and RAmpage

ops, BT and RB

[proud leaf]

what is happening here

[empty crest]

empowered versions of those spells, that is

[proud leaf]

1 crushing blow between 2 thunder claps isn't great either

esp since this is the ST phase of Ulgrax

[gilded flicker]

maybe was Thunder Blast?

or it shows as ThunderBlast on logs

[proud leaf]

TB is separate

[gilded flicker]

oh, so was simply my head flying away from me

[proud leaf]

there's a chunk of the fight here too where you hit no buttons between two thunderclaps 6 seconds apart

[long prairie]

bro was showing boss who is the real boss by only auto attack and fixing him in the eyes

[gilded flicker]

Guys Ty so much for the advices, i'm taking notes on everything

[fervent yoke]

Haven’t even gotten to give thane a proper go yet. D4 has me by the balls this week

[proud leaf]

yeah basically man you're hitting thunderclap and rampage way too much

ABC is important too for parsing. gotta be hitting buttons

[fervent yoke]

Yeh on fury you shouldn’t have any downtime really

[left elk]

Thane be CLAPPING

[fervent yoke]

Thor zug zug

[proud leaf]

also

[gilded flicker]

Now i get it why so many warriors use that weak aura that shows the Rampage proc fading (the smaller) to track enrage

[proud leaf]

as thane, and someone here can correct me if i'm wrong

[gilded flicker]

i really dont like that weak aura, but i understand it now

[fervent yoke]

Thunder clap replaces WW if you played slayer nothings changed except when TC become thunderblast

[proud leaf]

TC->Ramp->CB->RB->BB->repeat is the general idea of what our multi-target rotation looks like outside of buff windows

and of course if you're not getting TC procs

[gilded flicker]

Do you suggest any weak aura to track enrage?

[jade cipher]

what i do in my opener is that when ravager is down i keep THunder blast on 1 stack and just rapmage into CB and bloodbath gets used by ravager

[proud leaf]

I use Luxthos' WA pack

[summer crater]

Funniest thing going over to thane in dungeons was seeing rampage actually do the most damage overall

[wintry oriole]

Does the bloodthirst casts from unhinged cleave with whirlwind stacks?

[jade cipher]

keeping THunderblast on 1 stack is good for opener when you might overcap and lose many buffs

[proud leaf]

you can use any of them on wago

[left elk]

A quick google search is best here, its more a preference thing here

[jade cipher]

not anymore but they give thunerblast so you need to keep it on 1 stack

[gilded flicker]

Yeah - https://wago.io/fpDrAcG4G

[wintry oriole]

Would have been really nice if it cleaved. sadge

[opaque lintel]

should i save my sparks for something specific

or

should i craft missing pieces?

[left elk]

Generally you want to craft your embellishment slots (suggestions on wowhead) and then yes low or bad gear pieces

[opaque lintel]

i have crafted wep and brace

but i was thinking mby save for 2 sparks to get another crafted wep

or do i hope i get a 639 wep from vault/mythic raid?

[weary sail]

Siege of Boralus still the hardest dungeon

[empty crest]

do you have a link to that doc?

[uncut scarab]

i'll craft a jewelry next i think

will wait for next week vault and craft either a neck or a ring

[coarse nest]

For me it seems like pugs struggle the most with CoT and SV

Maybe I just haven’t pugged enough SoB

Honestly GB too

[quiet yew]

damn MT feels nice in m plus.

[coarse nest]

Sure does!

Thane gang rise up

[bitter palm]

JA CLAPPA

[mossy fox]

JA CLAPPA

[weary sail]

Thane feels so good to play

[uncut scarab]

JA CLAPPA

[weary sail]

More smooth than slayer in mythic plus

[mossy fox]

explain this JA CLAPPA thing btw

[coarse nest]

JA CLAPPA

[grim prism]

[coarse nest]

[fervent yoke]

Stop playing frost you’re a thane Main now

[south kayak]

Started with Phil when he sad JA CLAPPA randomly lol

[coarse nest]

Phillappa

[mossy fox]

gonna maintain the fdk alt

[coarse nest]

@eternal sundial

What’s up phillappa

[weary sail]

You did the impossible

Please dont get us nerf again

[south kayak]

Alter ego of Philliam

[coarse nest]

Poor William

[mossy fox]

tbf i have no clue if he was good but his breaths looked short

[bitter palm]

philliam rambling

[radiant plank]

Philliam

Love philwar

[south kayak]

If anything we've seen about M+ rn explains anything, blizzard doesn't enrf for m+

[radiant plank]

heard he is big parser

[south kayak]

they rarely do

[coarse nest]

[south kayak]

since they're letting shit like fdk go off

[coarse nest]

Called out

Damn William

[bitter palm]

heard he is very toxic to green leaf

[coarse nest]

Rip

[grim prism]

JA CLAPPA

[vague copper]

Easye W was ilvl 600

[final birch]

it's still early season, anything can get nerfed/buffed

[south kayak]

If fdk, enha and mage specs are not getting nerfed for M+, why would warrior

oh wait

[bitter palm]

hi myrt

[south kayak]

we already got nerfed

[final birch]

hello

[weary sail]

They kinda nerf prot war a tiny bit

[jovial holly]

with mountain you rarely cast whirlwind in aoe ?

[final birch]

gonna level and learn sham it looks cool asf to play

all 3 specs

and strong too

[weary sail]

Almost never

[bitter palm]

the only application of it

[south kayak]

and rework in .5

[jovial holly]

ok ty 😄

[south kayak]

(ele)

[coarse nest]

Replace whirlwind bind with thunderclap as thane

[bitter palm]

would maybe be to send ww to cleave ramp instead of sending unenraged tblast

[final birch]

yeah ik

[sage cloak]

Question, at what point would we use bloodbath over crushing blow on ST after rampage. Is it only if BT is above 90% crit?

[twin stone]

guys im new to fury and i wanna understand how to spend bloodthirst with 4set, also im using atrocity ui and as im using raging blow a percentage goes higher, what is that percentage ?

[bitter palm]

bloodcrze

bloodcraze

[quick zodiac]

Never use it

[jovial holly]

ty guys

[quick zodiac]

I have ww binded If I some how have nothing else to press other than that on st and or aoe

[eternal sundial]

E alo

[quick zodiac]

Never happend in aoe but I have used it in ST

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-alo-hello-phone-call-gif-20320635

[quick zodiac]

As a filler

[empty crest]

on st you should use slam not ww

[coarse nest]

ALO

[quick zodiac]

While ww is specced ? Did slam get a buff or

[weary sail]

You press slam like twice a boss fight

I dont even keybind slam

[empty crest]

same

[coarse nest]

Wait we can slam!?

[quick zodiac]

Thought you did ww as a filler in st aswell

[coarse nest]

[quick zodiac]

When aoe specced

[sage cloak]

With 4set. Is Bloodbath a priority over crushing blow after rampage?

[empty crest]

thought it was slam, but w/e.. not like it matters at all

[strong pilot]

I think that's if enhanced ww isn't specced

Doesn't matter

[quick zodiac]

I mean it is rarely a dps inc/loss tbf haha

[uncut scarab]

I hate slam

i would never press slam

[quick zodiac]

Same playstyle If I remember correctly

[uncut scarab]

i stopped playing arms becuse slam

i wont press slam 😠

[quick zodiac]

CB first

I fking hate slam lol

[empty crest]

everybody does

[quick zodiac]

Rather just aa

[uncut scarab]

yes

[sage cloak]

Thx!

[uncut scarab]

rather look at the screen being angry and screaming then press slam

fuck slam all my homies hate slam

[coarse nest]

Slam desks not bosses

Be better

[eternal sundial]

You only slam without imp ww

Get the funny macro

[vapid mulch]

It’s like 70k dmg difference and you’ll slam/ww like 7 times in a fight right so it really doesn’t matter

[eternal sundial]

And ur done

[uncut scarab]

no

[eternal sundial]

You put it in ww keybind

U feel zero difference

[uncut scarab]

i wont

[vapid mulch]

I have those for Troar/spear etc idk why I never bothered for ww/slam

I even had one for a Fob arms build in BFA

[sand crest]

are the rb/bt buffs coming at the same time as the soft cap nerfs for roar and of?

[clever belfry]

yes

[lilac plinth]

I cant understand thane

[meager void]

Replace WW with TC.
Use TC only to get ww stacks or as low prio filler
Tblast is highest prio and important to send before Avatar

Rest is the same, literally

[low folio]

is there a difference in drop rate between mark of khardros and skarmorak shard?

[normal bane]

what site has a thane opener, wowhead just has slayer

[meager void]

You gotta tweek wowhead with choices and you can see opener there

Opener and rotation.

[normal bane]

you can see the rotation

but the opener just shows slayer/bladestorm

[warm crag]

1/Amt of items in dungeon

[low folio]

ah so they stopped doing individual drop rates for stuff in newer dungeons

[warm crag]

I'm not aware of them ever having done that

[tepid solar]

I watched critcake last night...anyone have feedback on his thane build vs slayer for m+?

[low folio]

i guess i just assumed dungeon drop rates were always like they were in raids

[slow drift]

Thane better in higher keys, where packs outlive slayer burst

[low folio]

where certain items have a lower drop rate

[warm crag]

Raid also doesn't have weighted drops

Except for super rares but those are bonus loot now

[tepid solar]

Gotcha thank you

[low folio]

old raids like SoO had shoulders with lower drop rates

and other items

[warm crag]

You mean tusks?

[low folio]

ya the older raids had plenty of items with lower drop rates than the rest

[warm crag]

Cosmetic items always have a 1% drop rate or sk

[normal bane]

the prio on wowhead for thane has a bunch of stuff over rampage(if already engraged) so is it normal mainly in reck/openers to just not ramapage for a long time and be overcapped on fury

[low folio]

it wasnt cosmetic back then

[quick zodiac]

Btw with thane do u send tclap procs when we get it or is it just normal rotation? Every 4th attack we use it

[warm crag]

Idk how good tusks were when soo was relevant but every cosmetic was low drop chance and not relevant to gearing

[meager void]

Oh true. Archi will prob update soon

[warm crag]

Idk how this is even relevant to dungeon drops

[low folio]

its relevant because i had assumed drop rates were the same as they were in the past

[quick zodiac]

Cause I have been sending it on proc basically

[warm crag]

They are

[meager void]

Tblast asap. Specially before Avatar (which gives tblast proc)

[chrome plover]

blast has highest priority when enraged iirc

[normal bane]

remeber to separate tblast/tclap in your head, they arent the same spell on prio lists. obvious, but just a reminder

[low folio]

in the past especially before mythic plus, you didnt haver an equal chance at each item from a boss drop of dungeons or raid to other items it dropped

[warm crag]

Cap

[quick zodiac]

Okay I have been playing properly then tried both

Styles but sending on proc felt better

[warm crag]

Except for obvious exceptions like explicitly stated cosmetic drops like tusks, scythes, taeshalach etc

[gusty cloak]

After ramp and tb, are we cb then bb or the other way around?

[chrome plover]

cb then bb

[low folio]

i definitely remember more than cosmetics have unique drop rates

[chrome plover]

apart from sub-35% if you have vc

[warm crag]

Like

Is this personal anecdotes or

[chrome plover]

I definitely remember that you're wrong

[chrome plover]

ye it does fat dam

[low folio]

I could be wrong about it but on the same note your not showing any proof that its ever worked the way you said it does especially in the past

[quick zodiac]

Love thane looks amazing

[gusty cloak]

wish we can use our tfury mog with this spec

[coarse nest]

I’ve been doing this

Works good / feels good

[warm crag]

You're the one asserting that there's special shadow loot tables with different weighting not me lol

[low folio]

i just remember looking up loot drops when farming old raids many years back and the only info was the "drop rate" places like wowhead showed

[warm crag]

Ye those are from ppl who have the wow head add on looting stuff and sending the data in afaik

[normal bane]

does pre thunderclapping before avatar for a reset matter or not really

[slate sun]

If ur doing add phases in raid and they die uber fast would you send OF before BS, cause they usually dead as i come out of BS

or is it a waste

[low folio]

ya so there is no technical way to know the drop rates of items, just guesses because i havnt found any statements from blizzard with drop rates

[coarse nest]

Nah I wouldn’t bother

[normal bane]

and is that st or aoe

[coarse nest]

I open like that for both in M+

[normal bane]

aoe has bloodbath higher prio than rampage

[gusty cloak]

you guys dont throw in rava first?

[coarse nest]

Ravager will consume your bloodbaths in the opener

[normal bane]

ah

[coarse nest]

That’s why you don’t see it

[normal bane]

forgot about that part

i know its not thane specific

but it feels weird capping so hard on fury

and not really caring

[coarse nest]

It’s definitely weird to sit at full rage with rampage lit up

But that’s the way the spec plays right now

Prio is more important than spending rage

[normal bane]

is rampage just weak or everything else better

[acoustic yoke]

Both?

[coarse nest]

Rampage definitely does damage

But you lose damage overall by munching other procs

Pew pew

[acoustic yoke]

I've gotten some banger bb hits

[low folio]

ya rampage gotta do a lot more damage to prio it over cb and bb because even if they dont do more damage per cast themselves, they have other effects that can give more overall power

[idle ember]

So many ret pallies applying when I list my key

its just a sea of pink

[acoustic yoke]

I'll assume with AM it changes a bit

[coarse nest]

Poor ret pally

[gusty cloak]

they a dime a dozen

[coarse nest]

Fdk exists

[low folio]

probably, but i dont see bt losing priority in aoe

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah for sure

Well as long as the bug doesn't happen often

[lilac plinth]

Thank u

[low folio]

i havnt encountered the bug personally

atleast i havnt seen it bug out for me

[errant path]

Are you guyz having trouble to get into +11/12 keys or I am dumb for going warrior as alt instead of fdk lol ? Maining enh and wanted to play mountain thanes coz it's cool af and now it's played

[gusty cloak]

war stuff

[brazen island]

Yeah pretty much

[low folio]

nobody invites warrior unless your overqualified in rating as far as pugs are

[coarse nest]

It’s perfectly normal

There isn’t really a reason to bring a warrior

So you just have to que into a pug lead that is chill

Happens to all of us

[low folio]

warrior has to be super meta in keys to be a pick and even then there are tons of us

[errant path]

yeah, but idk played fdk for like 6y and got r1 with it and even if it was always f tier now that it's meta I dont wanna play it it's too fucking slow, need something with fast apm, and mountain thane is my fav hero tree in the game, but I guess imma just play it fuck dks

[low folio]

ya best to push your own key as a warrior sadly

[errant path]

yeah

[gusty cloak]

or play with friends

[coarse nest]

The pug wall is having all 11s timed and needing 12s

So you and thousands of others are applying to 12s

[errant path]

anyway as enhancement I need to do it so it aint gonna change something, imma alt it till 11s for fun

[normal bane]

list your own key and see how many dps app for it

it's insane

the best way to pug is to throw on a shield

[errant path]

as always

[gaunt moat]

i just had a revelation in my sleep

[normal bane]

at least we have that option

whats a hunter do

[errant path]

cry

[gaunt moat]

fuse am with ra make it so am reduces cooldown by half (1 second) nerf cb/bb buff rampage/execute gg wp

[errant path]

and last question but anger management is how far behind ?

[gaunt moat]

5%

[gusty cloak]

im seeing bizen playing slayer still on m+

[errant path]

well sadge

even more I guess with next patch

[chrome plover]

he is literally playing thane rn

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[gusty cloak]

i must be missing the claps lmao

[wispy dock]

I think noxx is one of the only ones still rockin slayer atm that I’ve seen

[dusty cove]

whats the ST difference between thane and slayer now?

[gusty cloak]

ah its the ww icon instead of the tc icon that got me

[chrome plover]

#updates-midnight message

[south kayak]

the WA?

Yeah, the Meat Cleaver icon is still WW

[wispy dock]

Yea we’re smooth brain zug zug players so we keep the icon the same 🤣

[south kayak]

regardless of TC or WW

[wispy dock]

I put my TC on my WW button

[chrome plover]

literally says it in his title and next to details and a big ass thunderclap in the middle of his weakauras

[last sparrow]

question, when we say thane will be better in higher keys, what level are we talking about? or is it just if mobs outlive your burst by a decent time?

[tranquil zenith]

When playing as MT, should I still be using WW, and where? Is it just to fill if everything else is on CD?

[carmine moth]

Is the reason the rotation says to use Raging Blow if you don't have Opportunist because you should spend Opportunist on Crushing Blow?

[elder epoch]

thunder clap is just same prio as ww right?

[broken bramble]

MT doesn't use WW

[normal pendant]

Hi, for crafting charged claymore, does it matter what missive rank i have?

[elder epoch]

aint no way you said sim yourself xd

[gusty cloak]

loll

[opaque solstice]

guys for charged claymore can i not put a duskthread lining on? i already have one on my back can i only use darkmoon sigils?

[normal pendant]

i dont think that is gonna help

[elder epoch]

no its same stats just easier to craft

[normal pendant]

ty

[opaque solstice]

can someone help me out?

[warm crag]

duskthread does not go on weapons

[opaque solstice]

im confused i read wowhead to say 2x duskthread but i was hoping i could put on my wep as i already have on cloak 😭

damn does that mean i shouldve used other one on my cloak and darkmoon on wep

[warm crag]

if you crafted a weapon you want to put ascension on it and the nerubian doubler on the other piece

[opaque solstice]

dang i didnt have nerubian doubler i already crafted my cloak

fuckkkk

😦

[gusty cloak]

recraft it with the nerub emb

[warm crag]

we do have 4 sparks now you can just craft a 3rd piece with duskweave

[opaque solstice]

i thought you could only have 2 embelishments

[warm crag]

you can only have 2 embels but you can have infinite crafted items

[opaque solstice]

ah right

[broken bramble]

Recraft your cloak

[opaque solstice]

does recrafting require mats again? idk how it works

[gusty cloak]

some yes

[next jacinth]

It requires partial