#fury

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dusty tiger
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Thank you!

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Thank you

waxen vale
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cuz they do?

young swan
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they do, the only place I think thane is actually hands down better is silken court and m+

lucid crater
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The only big discrepency I see is that TB in the sims is hitting WAAAYY harder and im not sure why

teal tulip
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got it thanks

crisp prism
signal gyro
olive pine
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may be a dumb question but is there any point in having whirlwind on my bar if thunderclap gives the buff?

young swan
olive pine
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ok nice

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feels odd xD

signal gyro
young swan
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its likely both, but based on his damage breakdown, he doesnt have that bug

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thane is very swingy in terms of RNG

lucid crater
young swan
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lots of % based procs instead of rppm

signal gyro
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got ya

crisp prism
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seems like procs are kinda reliable tho

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and consistent

zealous stone
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guys what are the ideal embellishments for m+

young swan
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they're consistently random

crisp prism
lucid crater
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hmm. is seismic reverberation not working? Theres no dmg breakdown for seismic on my details but there is on the sims

young swan
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yeah thats not consistent lmfao

zealous stone
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im running ascendance on weapon and vers bracers

crisp prism
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but they somewhat do the same at the end

young swan
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35% chance you can still go like 3-4 BT/BB's in a row with no proc

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could even go 6

modest condor
lucid crater
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I did

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maybe thats the problem

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I was pretty on top of the mobs but maybe not enough?

young swan
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well it wouldnt be called "seismic reverb"

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its still called tclap/tblast in details

hardy cargo
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It’s just an extra clap that’s doing 1/3 damage of other claps

young swan
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^

hardy cargo
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If you look at the avg hit of it

modest condor
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the bottom one is seismic

lucid crater
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Yeah i have that

hardy cargo
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It working then gladge

lucid crater
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Then wtf?!?! ugh lol. Is there a way to show in sims how hard a certain ability hits each time? like how it is in details?

obsidian siren
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ngl, putting TC on CD w/o a TB proc feels weird when it procs since it doesnt reset CD

lucid crater
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It seems they have an HTML report, give me a sec

neat totem
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is there any harm in having avatar+roar on a macro?

rotund ginkgo
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charge on cd

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i spam macro

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:3

night relic
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just dont die?

lucid crater
knotty sigil
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does fury war have more or less buttons than ret?

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like how hard is rotation

rotund ginkgo
gusty cloak
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you need a calculator

lucid crater
knotty sigil
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not my question :C

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ret also brain

lucid crater
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oh

night relic
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not rly

lucid crater
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other guy

night relic
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smash head on ret

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big dps

knotty sigil
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ret also not brain*

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but more or less brain

night relic
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DIVINE STORM DIVINE STORM DIVINE STORM DIVINE STORM

knotty sigil
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and fury war?

gusty cloak
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you need a spreadsheet for fury war

knotty sigil
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bloodthirst bloodthirst bloodthirst?

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tbh dunno what u guys do

lucid crater
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okay, avg TB dmg on sim around 600k, mine is around 270k. wtf

night relic
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little bit of this

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little bit of that

remote yew
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so are we all switching to Dracthyr in two weeks?

night relic
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no?

knotty sigil
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but basically like ret

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right

night relic
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i dont wanna look a scally

shy copper
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MT is fun with the light effects ngl

hidden river
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Its crazy MT is actually doing really well rn but we are getting gutted on the 22nd

quick schooner
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i let the sim do my Gems and he is not mixing color to benefit from the daimond algari

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it not siming right ? or not worth mixing

smoky vale
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target cap from 8 to 5 on tr

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and of

digital mauve
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So thane feels good and hit hard right now in m+ ?

willow jay
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Thane just a little bugged... this was silke court

slim coral
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playing with a dh is really op for thane

digital mauve
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How is that you have more rampage and BB than CB ? Isnt CB supposed to be number 1 ?

queen linden
digital mauve
slim coral
digital mauve
queen linden
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35% chance

rotund ginkgo
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7% today

inner delta
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Does this seem about right for close to 5min smacking cleave dummy's?

rotund ginkgo
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@restive peak 7%

sand breach
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whats good stats for mastery and haste % wise

willow jay
rotund ginkgo
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u have the bug

queen linden
digital mauve
queen linden
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No...

summer quail
digital mauve
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Or is it still Rampage not enraged > CB > BB > BT > RB?

smoky vale
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check wowhead

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🙂

honest karma
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what's eating my BB during burst? it reverts to BT without pressing itWhuh

gilded pawn
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unhinged

honest karma
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ah shiet ty

merry pewter
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Can roar and rav be in the same marco?

digital mauve
queen linden
honest karma
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never noticed unhinged when bladestorming lmao

fickle cedar
queen linden
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I didn't think you can have 2 damage abilities being used at the same time.

fickle cedar
queen linden
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You'd have to hit the macro twice.

fickle cedar
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getting a free BB cast

digital mauve
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Avatar and Roar in a macro is okey ?

queen linden
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Yes

forest owl
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guys, the 3 trash mobs directly after 2nd boss mists, would you send cds on those cause you have them, or hold for the double pull tanks seem to do after those 3?

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youd hold right?

honest karma
fickle cedar
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you can odyn

modest condor
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i pray for the tank that doesnt either skip them or drag them down to combine with the pack to the right

forest owl
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literally just lost to an MM hunter cause he had cds for those pulls and i didnt but then i got told to use cds fuck that

queen linden
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If anybody is telling you how to play your class, tell them to pay your sub before they give you anymore opinions.

eternal pebble
frozen mirage
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We don't use Odyn's Fury in ST?

gilded pawn
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not on pure st no

honest karma
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not pure ST

forest owl
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oooooh it all makes sense now the tank was his friend yeah, i see what happened now lol

queen linden
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Passive stat increase > OF for ST

frozen mirage
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But mostly we do spec Odyns for raid fights? Except Sikra?

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I'm arms

honest karma
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fight with adds

frozen mirage
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Just coming back

eternal pebble
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Sikra and princess I guess

frozen mirage
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Yeh

fickle cedar
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and rash keks

queen linden
fickle cedar
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(im jk)

queen linden
frozen mirage
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Rash has adds though? you mena for logs?

west shale
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anyone have any ideas why my macros doesnt work ?

honest karma
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they should go to prison for that rash shit

fickle cedar
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they are changing it back dont worry

queen linden
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Where you see that at?

fickle cedar
queen linden
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Good! Fuck WCL

frozen mirage
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#removeallpadding

queen linden
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Sucked getting gang banged by blizzard and WCL

honest karma
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numbnuts Armsowns

sand breach
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can ramage be in a macro as like the 3 cast?

eternal pebble
fickle cedar
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what do you mean the 3 cast ?

honest karma
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me topping guild meters feeling like a champ then goes checking logs after raiddeadge

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on rash

sand breach
eternal pebble
karmic crow
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anyone here good with macros?

supple fractal
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use chatgpt to make your wow macros

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and suddenly you'll be good with it

obsidian siren
eternal pebble
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I guess

sand breach
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ty

eternal pebble
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Tbh never tried that😂

honest karma
sand breach
honest karma
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can chatGPT code WAs too?🤔

smoky vale
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no

honest karma
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noob bot

eternal pebble
runic wren
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what we playing now? slayer or thane?

warm crag
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was are just lua and theres an okay? amt of forum discussion abt it so itll be fine

eternal pebble
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But hadn‘t time yet to try thane in raid

quaint elbow
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Lets enjoy these 2 weekz pre nerf boys

runic wren
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Crit tryid thane?

golden hare
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idk is he?

nimble kraken
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How good is execute compared to Crushing Blow/Bloodbath. if I’m full aoe raid talents and benefiting from recklessness and can get rampage out without pressing it, should I be skipping?

opaque falcon
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What dungeon ia that

eternal pebble
quaint elbow
fallen sedge
opaque falcon
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Thane beating DKs now what?!

runic wren
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and in rotation is big difference? or?

bitter palm
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theres a very good chance its bugged

outer umbra
fallen sedge
fallen sedge
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honestly I felt like I was slapping hard this dung

ebon pike
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what are the proposed buffs to AM?

bitter palm
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i feel like it should be doing more

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than lightning strike

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@fallen sedge were u getting procs from bt/bb

zinc remnant
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the rotation change a lot with the mountain thane?

smoky vale
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check wowhead

restive peak
fallen sedge
tacit token
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raid builds from dps-faq still valid?

warm crag
golden hare
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🤯

rotund ginkgo
thorny lily
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what is the opener with moutain thane aoe and single?

hollow leaf
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these raids are just getting to be more and more shit with fps

thorny lily
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changes anything ? or i just thunderclap after

willow cradle
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Prepping for M BroodTwister, my RL wants me to be first interrupt on worm adds, but I think it may be better to be a later kick since Fury burst doesn't need ramping.

Anyone with experience on M BroodTwister that can weigh in?

honest karma
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Only fps issue i have is silken during first intermission with the webs, lol. Everything else is fine. I don’t get it

unreal onyx
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one of the best bursters

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taking fury away from adds is kinda troll

willow cradle
unreal onyx
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yea I dump all my CDs before I have to kick

willow cradle
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Okay

unreal onyx
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cast is like 3s iirc, so I got 8s time before I have to kick

willow cradle
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I figured it would be better, thanks for the prompt answer dude

hardy shuttle
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Even if you're the 1st kick, the boss should be over the melee add. Just focus kick it and do your thing

unreal onyx
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I mean, one worm is basically insta-dead

willow cradle
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It's specifically worm add

unreal onyx
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depending on which worm you are

willow cradle
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Not melee adds

hardy shuttle
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Or just strategically tell them you're lagging too hard when the adds spawn to kick the first 2 worms

unreal onyx
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do you not have ranged kicks?

lofty forge
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is mountain buff live?

hardy shuttle
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Melee should be kicking one worm and ranged the other

hardy shuttle
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And stacking on the melee kick worm

honest karma
waxen vale
unreal onyx
willow cradle
lofty forge
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sick

ionic bison
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just finish a +10 SV, is the damage order of the skills correct?

hollow leaf
near wing
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any

gilded pawn
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crushing blow way too low

abstract flower
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any nifty trinkets to go try winning the lottery on in ulduar timewalking?

supple panther
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Hello guys, first time here, anyone have att talents for fury warrior and some addons that i could use?

haughty osprey
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yo friends quick question, is dungeon slice as Fury good for simming or not recommended ?

oblique trail
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You dont have the same giga amp from Slayer

potent ocean
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Hey, anyone got a good new rotation for Thane now?

oblique trail
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And Ramp also just does more damage as Thane

hard quiver
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greetings from protection land

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one of us beat one of yours

bitter palm
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hi yogi

oblique trail
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That's not saying a lot

hard quiver
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nerfs are massive to fury? or this guy just bad died probably i bet

austere wedge
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should I set loot specialisation to arms so I don't get 1H weapons?

golden hare
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ye

slim coral
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Having consistent damage as thane feels so nice

unreal shell
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I think I'm fucking up the rotation a bit at the moment

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Need to go and recheck the prio list

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I also really miss Bladestorm 😦

livid marsh
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pretty much the same tbh

unreal shell
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Ravager just doesn't feel the same

livid marsh
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only opener is affected

errant wedge
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Is it worth taking the launcher trinket?
Planned to take the back, but simc no matter from which angle puts that trinket as the top choice by far

runic wren
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any tips on opener a prio now?

clever belfry
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press buttons

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👍

iron portal
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Time to get personal lay on hands

clever belfry
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not this shit again man

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not again

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pls

iron portal
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yes

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again

clever belfry
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no man

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fuck off

iron portal
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Hey dont shoot the messenger

sudden tusk
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sorry i cant dps unless i have an aug evoker, blistering scales, PI, Windfury, Emyreal Ward, Mystic Touch, amd hunters mark

smoky vale
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realest message

livid marsh
# runic wren any tips on opener a prio now?

am no theorycrafter so take it with a grain of salt, also didnt really test it to much yet, basically you do mostly the same but while you use ravager with unhinged you only press TB, Ramp, and CB and let ravager do the BB for you

junior gale
smoky vale
opaque solstice
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how tricky is the fury mage tower bros?

iron portal
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not really tricky

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Kill adds , kill boss , dodge

vital helm
clever belfry
vital helm
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That's me

clever belfry
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🐀

smoky vale
velvet obsidian
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Not having a dispel this week is mega sad

abstract flower
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BITTER IMMUNITY Cx

keen kindle
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Because the last armour buff was changed pretty quick to not work with ATT

eager thorn
runic wren
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and also we dont use whirlwind but TC ? 😄

keen kindle
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JA CLAPPIN

keen kindle
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Slayer still uses ww

near wing
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is the only different for MT is to put thunderclap in the rotation where WW was b4?

runic wren
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so we have same rotation like rampage CB bloodthirst and Thunder clap?

runic wren
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and with opener something different? or still reckles avatar roar ?

vital helm
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I got thunder clap on scroll wheel down

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Raging blow on scroll wheel up

unreal shell
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straight RSI in your finger

velvet obsidian
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I got kicked from a group because a shaman joined the queue after me. critcake

crimson yacht
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warr moment

abstract flower
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requeue as tank and brick the key as revenge hehe

velvet obsidian
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I was already at the stone and starting to summon as well. Fuck that gets me so salty

unreal shell
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That's what you get for not playing FDK/Mage/Aug

opaque solstice
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lol this shit is hard as fuck

unreal shell
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Saw this earlier and it made me want to punch my monitor

opaque solstice
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every time i get her hp down like 10% once loads of imps come in i get nuked

unreal shell
opaque solstice
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even with stuns

velvet obsidian
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You talking MT?

opaque solstice
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yeah

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once i saw the imps i took it

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they just nuke me down before i can get all of them

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prob just too newb

dire vigil
opaque solstice
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id go buy some drums but i dont think im gonna get anywhere near killing her lol

unreal shell
winter shoal
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In their defense though SV pugs are demonic

velvet obsidian
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I did that back when they released TW Mage Tower, talents were different so I'm not sure how it is now. Gotta cleave the adds always and keep track of her ability timer. Let them live and it's GG

winter shoal
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I'm taking 0 chances on that mf

smoky vale
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im taking 0 chances in bringing a single warrior

dire vigil
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Look them up and see their history in raider io

unreal shell
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Like...I think I can do the 9... but alas I'm not a FDK

smoky vale
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the only thing i like playing in m+ is full melee with resto

spark frigate
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Can I macro ravager to drop on my charatcer ?

crimson yacht
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ohh wtf TC procs the meat cleaver effect thats cool asl

smoky vale
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yes

opaque solstice
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its quite literally impossible man !! im dying at the exact sane moment

unreal shell
opaque solstice
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she spawns the imps that translocate

smoky vale
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./cast [@player] Ravager

opaque solstice
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and even if i save cd to spam them down

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i get fucked lol

spark frigate
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Ty

opaque solstice
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THIS IS FUCKING RIDICLOUS

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mannne i love this set too

queen linden
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Save CDs

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Really, the only scary imps are the 2 that run up and cast

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Just shockwave them and OF.

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The little imp, throw a hammer at it.

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When she mass summons imps, pop CDs, roar and blade storm.

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Or ravager. Whatever you have.

tiny hare
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you guys using alch caos flask on raind and m+?

smoky vale
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yes

olive wraith
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We like stats

tiny hare
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what about weapon consumables?

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mana oil?

burnt stone
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🐀

smoky vale
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whatever you can afford

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or sims highest

tiny hare
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cool ty

bitter palm
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🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑

opaque solstice
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is arms easier lol

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may just go for that

olive wraith
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The difference in difficulty is negligible

opaque solstice
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dang

olive wraith
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Both specs are easy

opaque solstice
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im not getting her past 10%

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its relative

void pilot
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i find arms a little less zug zug for my liking

opaque solstice
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i mean for challenge

olive wraith
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Wait are you talking about zek

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Fury is better for that cause fury is a little more tanky

queen linden
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No, hes doing mage tower

opaque solstice
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doing mage tower.

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i just saved ravager and odyns fury foir the second wave where she spaswns 3 imps

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popped health pots stuns cds and nuked ads as hard as i could

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i still get killed in 0.2 seconds

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lmao

queen linden
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You're interrupting the imps right away?

opaque solstice
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yup

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i shockwave + 2x storm

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then interupt boss

queen linden
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Wait, you're thane?

opaque solstice
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still getting nuked by them too quickly

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yeah

queen linden
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Go slayer.

opaque solstice
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okay

queen linden
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It's a ST fight.

opaque solstice
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but imps were killing me

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thats why i went thane

queen linden
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Thane doesnt burst like slayer.

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More of a gradual ramp up and sustained damage.

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Slayer just blows your load. Which is what you want to kill the imps quickly and get back to killing her.

opaque solstice
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okay

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ty

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ill try it

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10 sec rp before each wipe making me want to punch my monitor lol

runic wren
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soooo Thane now is the play for M+?

tropic helm
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Does weapon damage affect stormstrike/nature damage?

queen linden
opaque solstice
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i prefer slayer to thane im a bit dissapointed

smoky vale
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then play slayer

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who is stopping you

tired brook
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^

queen linden
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^^

eager thorn
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Me

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I’m stopping them

queen linden
smoky vale
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i actively play fun wrong build in m+ because i find it fun

wispy bridge
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Im happy thane is pulling ahead somewhere, slayer visuals are sooo boring

queen linden
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At the end of the day, unless you're pushing .1% title, you can play either in m+

opaque solstice
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i am going to play it i just prefer the one i like being higher damage lol

opaque solstice
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i just like bladestorm go brrrrr

smoky vale
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you can still play bladestorm

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again who is stopping you

opaque solstice
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i like the little mini ones that slayer has

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i feel like a beyblade

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of death

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gonna try arms one as im fairly sure i did this one during legion

short cobalt
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thane is fucking fun love it!

red peak
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Question about the affix this week.is it any healing done? Just wondering whether a well timed blade storm could potentially provide enough healing

warm crag
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ye it just looks at raw healing can all be overhealed aswell

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although you shouldnt be using bladestorms for the affix either IV it or wait until someone deals with it more effectively

storm birch
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I’ll throw out an impending victory if I know I won’t need it for 25 sec haha

buoyant salmon
velvet obsidian
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Any healing done, BS won't heal through it but will help your healer if you don't have dispels.

buoyant salmon
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tuning

velvet obsidian
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IV or, better yet, just get a priest or shaman to ignore the affix for you.

lime plaza
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so how do we deal with the affix then? I always see on reddit. "Its not a healer affix every class has something for it"

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Impending victory aint cutting it

warm crag
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you can technically bitter immunity it

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although if you're getting your gameplay advice from reddit you're cooked ye

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its not worth it for you to specifically spec into dealing with it its almost always better to just let someone else deal with it for you

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if your healer is giga struggling maybe throw an IV + ER combo or a healthpot in there

modest condor
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IV itself may not be enough but you have a lot of other passive healing like bt and cshb

warm crag
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idk im on team steadfast

modest condor
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combined with some smart heals from the healer that should be enough even if the rest of the group is slacking

warm crag
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that makes IV enough to deal with it

queen linden
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Are groups actually struggling with this affix?

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Figured this was one of the easier ones.

visual ice
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i can certainly see pugs struggling

modest condor
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it is the easiest one

visual ice
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the healing is deadly

modest condor
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but pugs be pugs

warm crag
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its just a sanity check

summer quail
warm crag
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but if you fail it youg et stuff like this

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(raid rashanan hard enrages at like 6:30 or 7:00)

modest condor
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i also hard enrage at 6:30

smoky vale
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second wind also counts for it right?

queen linden
visual ice
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this expansion im just not pugging, if i login and my guildies are offline i just log off

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its been great tbh

queen linden
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Id be shocked if blizzard doesn't announce some drastic m+ nerfs for 11.0.5

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I've heard maybe a handful of people actually say they are enjoying this m+ season.

visual ice
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the squish was a miss in hindsight

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some of my friends are firmly, mid, players.. theres no m+ content suitable for them, m2 is too hard

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and then the people in like a 5 range get pumped and cant progress very granularly

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and 11-12 is very unfun

queen linden
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We went from seasons where gear was thrown around like candy and now the vast majority of players are hard stuck at 619

visual ice
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yeah i think honestly gilded at 8 would probably solve the problem /shrug

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im not deep in the weeds this season had my first kid recently so ive got other shit to do

queen linden
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Then you'll just have people who can't get into 8s complaining.

visual ice
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provably wont get a full myth set

visual ice
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(rude)

queen linden
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Hero track should go up 1-2 more levels.

visual ice
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i saw someone suggest hero track should just not require gilded crests

queen linden
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Ehh

visual ice
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that could also work, atm its dumb to upgrade hero to max

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because myth only drops at 623 so you dont get a discount

queen linden
visual ice
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that doesn't particularly worry me

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those players dont interact with me

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like how they nerfed zekvir so you cant fill a weekly delve vault easily

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why do i care if someone can get champ gear with 30mins of playtime?

queen linden
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I can understand that.

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It was a little broken.

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And trivialized delves.

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I think people are just complaining because they want myth track gear without doing higher level content.

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So they want to go back to the welfare gear system.

visual ice
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I think gate myth so its hard but make it so upgrade hero gear isnt objectively wrong

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wehether thats make gilded easier to get or make hero not use gilded idm

buoyant salmon
visual ice
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but having said all that, gear isnt gonna solve the problem from the very very limited pug experiences ive had

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the dungeons just pump people with small brains

queen linden
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You can get 619 by only running delves.

visual ice
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idk man maybe ive just got boomer brain now but i couldnt give a shit if someone ends up fully upgrade mythic gear by the end of the season doing nothing but picking herbs

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make it slow or whatever but it doesnt affect me in any way

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if anything, having a low stress, slow gear acquisition path would be good for when i have 45 mins to kill and cant commit to a dungeon

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anyway im glad thane is better in m+ now, thunderclap is quintissential warrior to me

summer knoll
visual ice
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not if the most efficient method is group content

summer knoll
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Depends on the implementation

visual ice
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blizz just constantly gets blind sided making systems with more heads than hydra and being suprise pikachud when the players find some method that is quicker than intended and we all grind like degenerates doing that

clever belfry
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he cant do me like this man

visual ice
#

still using slayer in all raid situations even with thane buffs?

olive wraith
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Ya

visual ice
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ty cap'n

buoyant salmon
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tragic

olive wraith
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Better st and cooldowns still line up well

torpid sand
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thane feels interesting. i feel i got a lot of shit wrong and i still had a fairly decent DPS overall(8 tirna)

frozen portal
#

if i want to take bitter immunity, what am i dropping

short cobalt
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can someone let me know if its better to double use thunder blast or thunder blast then aoe combo then thunderblast again? or TB TB then aoe

torpid sand
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imo TB TB then AOE

short cobalt
#

kk

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THX

torpid sand
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i would listen to other warriors too tho

short cobalt
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fuck it

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im bad and ur the first to respond

regal grotto
#

Is anyone running MT for 9+ keys?

tawny shadow
#

yah i like it

regal grotto
#

i tried it once last week, not sure how i feel aboot it

tawny shadow
#

last week had less numbers

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this week has more numbers

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more numbers fun

regal grotto
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lmao

tawny shadow
#

thunderclapping just feels like using WW for meat cleaver

regal grotto
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Felt a little slow for me

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waiting for thunderclap

tawny shadow
#

with enough haste you use your 3-4 stacks ish between tclaps

regal grotto
#

So haste has more value with MT then

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ive got enough haste atm but still not sure aboot it, ill try it oot this week and see how it goes

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figured fortified will be better for it

neat totem
#

Can someone please explain why when burst of power procs and i hit rampage before BB/BT the buff goes away? am i missing something?

smoky turret
#

you dont hit rampage before bb + cb is done

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unless you are not enraged

tardy axle
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or you have reck up

smoky turret
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or you have rava thrown and that will use ur bb for you

eager stirrup
#

They're both Haste/Vers but tier would be more Haste

tardy axle
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because vers isnt completely useless

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and if you've got jack shit of it then its gonna give % increase more than a smidge of haste

slate light
#

there is also different gems and enchants on the gear

eager stirrup
smoky turret
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the sockets are empty on the ring, worse enchant for pants

slate light
#

epic gem moved from belt to neck, other gems taken out of neck

eager stirrup
#

I have no idea what I did to mess this up lol.

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I mean, obviously it was some replacements in the sim

gilded pawn
#

the CD literally does not allow it, thunderclap has a CD of 4 gcds, and meat cleaver requires you to press it every 5th gcd, haste has no bearing on this

barren coral
#

when do we skip BT in the ramp>cb>bt rota?

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just when CB resets its cd?

gilded pawn
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when you have over 100 rage

barren coral
#

so basically never use when BL is out

haughty basin
#

any good macros to combine cooldowns you guys recommend?

gilded pawn
#

its very real that you have to skip a lot of BBs

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but ravager should be out taking care of most of it

frank robin
#

Played a couple keys with MT and outside of your burst window, it doesn't feel that great. Subpar in ST to say the least.

barren coral
#

did slayer feel any better in ST?

sterile stratus
#

its 2% ahead in single target

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so, 2% better?

restive fiber
#

is this a bug ?

barren coral
#

think people being dissapointed in MT just forget fury is dissapointing on ST

sterile stratus
#

yea i got that when trying to equip a shiled as prot lol

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"this armor isn't for your spec"

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like excuse me

restive fiber
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no its thunder clap glyph

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i have the spell why i cant use the glyph

keen kindle
#

Because blizz haven't updated glyphs like that since like...legion

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when fury didn't have TC

frank robin
barren coral
#

is there an addon that hides the dmg numbers coming from shit you are not directly tabbed on?

queen linden
#

How cooked are my stats?

arctic locust
#

so is MT better than slayer now?

hard widget
arctic locust
paper iron
#

would you recommend chant of armored avoidance or chant of leeching fangs

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I see on wowhead/icyveins its saying avoidance but see people doing leeching fangs

terse sable
#

Is mountain thane better for keys now?

paper iron
#

Apologies for the cloak winged grace vs leeching fangs

hard widget
terse sable
#

I got just here sorry

hard widget
queen linden
#

Thane on silken court worth anything?

coarse nest
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ive been playing around with a few different spots*

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feels cluttered regardless of how i play it

red marten
#

i was looking through some logs is this something i should be trying to do or just happen to be popping off the logs i looked at

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specifically the 3 bt

pliant jackal
#

burst of power talent on thane i think

modest condor
#

i think i'll pass

hard widget
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This seemed the smoothests for me

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And u just weave in ur OF After ur CB or after ur ramp

pliant jackal
#

yea i feel super cluttered too

coarse nest
#

hmm ok it sounds like youre doing similar to what im doing then 😄

maiden hearth
hard widget
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Problem is u dont wanna overcap on TB procs

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Rather miss a CB than a TB proc

merry pewter
#

If you have TB charges it takes top priority right

hard widget
#

If ur capped yes

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The bloodbath is procced from ravager

modest condor
#

the aoe opener for thane is such a mess

pliant jackal
#

agreed

sterile stratus
#

yea i got no idea what it is lol

upbeat plume
#

lol nonsense light up bottons go brt

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XD

hard widget
#

The OF is wrong actually

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Its behind my rampage

merry pewter
#

I notice a lot of people playing MT their logs are showing more rampage and CB's are lower. Is that just how it is or not optimal

modest condor
#

i've been doing reck ava roar > rav > ramp > tb > cb > ramp > of > tb > cb

hard widget
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But w/e

modest condor
#

woops forgot an ability

hard widget
#

Ravager can proc TB

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Which sucks

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Thats why im delaying it personally

restive peak
#

The pro and con of this seems to be that

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All of the above is very similar DPS LOL

hard widget
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Like reck/ava/roar -> tb -> ravager - cb - of - ramp

restive peak
#

It's legit a messy prio as low as you stay enraged and send CB

hard widget
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Seems to allign best with how ur ravager unhinged does its shit

upbeat plume
#

I think it iwll be simpler when AM gets buffed on the 22nd and is viable

fickle obsidian
#

Really confused to what's going on here, ran a sim with 5 targets, no lust or any buffs that i currently dont have, hit the training dummies for the same duration, had the same amount of casts and hits and it's half the damage. Any ideas? 19 casts 95 hits

hard widget
upbeat plume
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well see but when you dont have to game BB and CB and just send everything on cd

pliant jackal
#

wouldn't it make it even easier to play tho?

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AM thane

hard widget
trim tinsel
#

Guys, do i press Thunder clap when it procs in single target moments?

hard widget
#

Loads of things couldve happened

coarse nest
hard widget
merry pewter
#

Is it worth casting rav after avatar/reck over just macroing then all together [avatar/rekt/rav]

fickle obsidian
#

enrage uptime is 97%, can thunder blast do a different amount of damage per hit based on a proc?

upbeat plume
fickle obsidian
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its nearly half the amount of damage

upbeat plume
#

as then the odyns benefits from the bleed damage increase

hard widget
pliant jackal
#

hey guys i ran a 5 minute sim. what can i improve on any ideas?

main cave
#

Have you tried increasing the pixel density??

coarse nest
fickle obsidian
#

I mean what more information do you need exactly to help?

frosty patrol
#

thats not how sims work dog

main cave
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It helps my dps when I raid shirtless and yell every time I bladestorm.

fickle obsidian
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I'm genuinely curious to what's going on.

broken vortex
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make it grayscale

runic cypress
pliant jackal
hard widget
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And if u want others to look, then send the log and sim over

fickle obsidian
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kk

unreal stump
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May i ask what is better right now to play in m+?

vapid tiger
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DK

broken vortex
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Frost

unreal stump
oblique thistle
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thane feeling really strong after the changes (+7 mists, 616 ilvl)

pliant jackal
#

between mountain thane and slayer

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frost dk is better

hard widget
pliant jackal
#

mountain thane for higher m+ keys

hard widget
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A ferrari is faster

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🙂

pliant jackal
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🙃

unreal stump
#

but rlly plz idk what to play im lost xd

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mt slayer ra am

oblique thistle
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thane seems to be pulling ahead in M+ at least from my experience, slayer is still goated for raid

pliant jackal
#

if you are playing warrior fury on 10+ play thane

runic cypress
#

The analogy should have been more like between a 1999 dodge dart and 1998 Cutlass a Lamborghini is faster

hard widget
pliant jackal
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the wowhead has been updated

unreal stump
#

ok ok ty ill try thane for m+

hardy cargo
hard widget
clever belfry
#

@hallow sphinx

hard widget
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And warcraftlogs doesnt

clever belfry
#

this is not normally!!!

feral ivy
#

never running AK without a shammy ever again

fickle obsidian
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ahhh, makes sense. Knew it would probably be something simple. Appreciate it, I should've looked harder.

hard widget
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@fickle obsidian

red marten
hallow sphinx
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we love anda

clever belfry
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im free

pliant jackal
#

any of you guys play around burst of power?

clever belfry
#

we dont need cleave

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we NEED vc

hallow sphinx
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dude youre owning

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!!!

clever belfry
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wtf!!!

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rash!!!!

hallow sphinx
#

chef anda

clever belfry
#

the cook:

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just win by your abilities doing more dam?

humble plover
#

🤏

clever belfry
#

noob

feral ivy
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question will this be REALLY good for us? it can go up to ilvl 626 BRD PTR atm

humble plover
#

ilvl is a crutch

clever belfry
#

but kinda doubt

dire vigil
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Enrage is a crutch. Take rampage off your bars if you want to be a real gamer.

velvet obsidian
#

ILVL is a delusion given to the weak by the strong. Or so I've heard.

sudden tusk
#

they dont code them as actual hits but procs most the time to avoid them being bis but being a fun little thing

feral ivy
clever belfry
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yeah nah this is just dogshit

velvet obsidian
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Lack haste = why live?

runic cypress
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I don't think anything from the anniversary raid is gonna be good

clever belfry
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miss me with this single target shit 🙅‍♂️

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i am blasting aoe

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this is why i live

velvet obsidian
#

Clapping in AoE 📈

rocky thistle
#

no haste... critcake

feral ivy
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aoe 🙂 and shield

clever belfry
#

this sounds like some

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guardian shit

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split dmg needs 2 get shot

feral ivy
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there is a lot of good tanking stuff

clever belfry
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just let fun trinkets blast on aoe

feral ivy
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i might use for offspec

clever belfry
#

that hit you

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means direct hit

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most aoe will not trigger this

feral ivy
#

good point

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i just hope its a fun event thats going to last like 2 months

frail wasp
#

Is there a general preference between icyveins, wowhead, or maxroll for seeing the most up-to-date builds/info?

winter shoal
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Wowhead usually is the most up to date

clever belfry
#

maxroll guide expects you to have a higher level understanding going in

winter shoal
#

Also not sure if those have been updated since before RWF

pliant jackal
#

yea thats why i like wowhead the best

oblique trail
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(I had more sets of adds)

gaunt moat
#

are spriest becoming op in the silence or what? just had one doing a 2m12 overall on tirna scythe 10

gaunt moat
#

i expected to be beaten by ret and fdk

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but not spriest

kindred swallow
#

Is the priority the same for st and aoe when playing thane or does something change

modest condor
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rb > bt in st, bt > rb in aoe

kindred swallow
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Ive been prioritizing rampage then tb and then cb and bb

modest condor
#

that's the only difference i can think of off the top of my head

hardy cargo
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u want to cb and bb before ramp provided enrage

kindred swallow
#

Been more confusing playing thane than slayer for me

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Specialy when its cds windows

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Procs are all over the place

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Sometimes i rampage like 3 to 4 times in a row acidentally cuz theres just so much rage

sage ridge
#

What is a high enough key to start considering MT in M+?

sullen dove
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whenever you want to do it

gaunt moat
fluid cedar
#

is thane worth trying in m+ with only 2 pc

eager stirrup
#

Maybe I overthink things and I don't think anyone will be able to give me an answer that will satisfy me because there's too many hypotheticals but I'm kinda hoarding my Runed Crests atm. I'm at 121 and can earn 89 more this week, which is 200 total. It'd cost 45 crests per piece of gear to upgrade to 619. That means I could upgrade 4.6 pieces of gear. I currently have two pieces of gear that are Hero track and only 610. Upgrading my Champion track trinkets sims higher but I don't want to do that. Next week, with 90 more crests, I could upgrade 6.6 pieces but I'm needing to upgrade 7 pieces total.. so maybe I am overthinking it since that leaves me only lacking one piece being upgraded to 619. I guess I mainly have to worry about getting other Hero track pieces this week that would have been a better upgrade. Typing all of this makes me realize how crazy I'm being about it though. Out of curiosity, if you're mostly just Heroic raiding, would you guys hoard if you were me or upgrade?

fluid cedar
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ik that doesnt have a lot to do with it and i should probably sim but just curious. 614 ilvl

eager stirrup
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Yeah, I'm being ridiculous because I would have to wait another week at max to upgrade everything.

visual ice
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I just upgrade random ass stuff whenever I want

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its heroic brother pushing your buttons correctly at 600ilvl is enough to clear it

eager stirrup
#

That's what I was doing and I've been stressed out about fucking myself and it hasn't happened yet.

dusty cove
#

Does the bonus effect on the main stat gems require different types of gems?

sullen tendon
#

moutain thane still shit?

tardy axle
quartz tulip
#

we going stronk

eager stirrup
# tardy axle if all your doing is heroic raiding then nothing actually matters in the way of ...

I agree to an extent but I think that it’s fun to min-max to the best of my ability. I would like to Mythic raid but I will be able to upgrade everything in two more weeks so it doesn’t matter anyway. I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I think I’ll probably upgrade these two Hero track pieces, I’ll still have enough crests to upgrade any other two pieces I get including trinkets, which I think would be a bigger DPS increase.

tardy axle
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hitting dummies for an hour will do more to increase your ability than upgrading a few pieces of gear

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unless your looking at your parses and can see nothing but pinks gear means jack

eager stirrup
#

You’re right, especially considering this is my first tier as Warrior since TBC haha. I’ve got room to grow. I’m only hitting purps, low purps, in pugs.

weary sail
#

is the rotation of thane pretty much the same as slayer? just replace WW with thunderclap?

gilded pawn
#

There’s some different prio regarding thunder blast

feral ivy
#

farming thunderfury on all my chara and now i have 1 of each arms on 2 character's

weary sail
gilded pawn
#

Wowhead

weary sail
#

does this looks right

gilded pawn
#

Yeah

hardy cargo
#

are we still gaming AM+uproar for broodtwister prog?

ionic plaza
#

What is this exactly? +9 necrotic wake, the Aug evoker was 2.1k IO and enough ilvl, Was he boosted? sureley Aug isnt this bad

quartz tulip
#

guys hekili is a must need addon to play fury

tardy axle
#

aug is defensive orientated now

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unless its co-ordinated they will just slow you down

ionic plaza
#

Theres no way that is what they output

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thats like bot damage

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guess ill just not bring them anymore

tardy axle
#

55%~ from buffs is about right

ionic plaza
#

Yeah ill be honest i dont have a clue what evokers do or why or what they even are

tardy axle
#

you bring em in super high keys because you time everything in one big chunk / pull

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if theyre just firing shit off randomly and not lining anything up then its gonna fall flat on its face

frail wasp
#

For hekili, am I good to just set it to auto and turn off my brain?

oblique thistle
#

the dark green bar on your details represents their theoretical contribution of damage from buffs (based on buff uptime) and its very very not accurate most of the time (maybe, idk)

ionic plaza
#

Interesting

tardy axle
frail wasp
ionic plaza
#

Well even so it was less than the tank

tardy axle
#

thats the "line everything up" part

tardy axle
oblique thistle
#

you bring them because they buff the shit out of tank and healer to make your group more durable, but buff uptime in PUGs will always be scuffed and things won't line up properly because group is not coordinated

strong pilot
ivory ingot
frail wasp
tardy axle
#

ignoring some of the time it tells you to pop CD's because it doesnt take into account stuff like mob health on like, bladestorm, or holding bladestorm to sync with avatar to burst the next pack harder, stuff like that

frail wasp
#

Did not know you should withold bladestorm for Ava. I thought it should mostly be used on cooldown.

Any other tips?

gilded flicker
#

Guys is there any build that goes MT and no unhinged?? A guy from my core is using that with bldestorm and he’s doing well on court

faint oriole
#

So guys, how optimal do you think having all 9 pieces of tier equipped is?

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Like catalyze a full suit of myth tier

frail wasp
#

Also, any reccomendations for ability layouts, so switching between mountain thane M+ & Slayer Raid is less jarring?

gusty cloak
#

not enough CB huh? this is a 10nw

oblique thistle
coarse nest
#

cheers!

frosty patrol
#

thats not how aug dps works

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u cant use details for it

coarse nest
#

the single global that could munch a TB proc is w/e

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feels comfy this way

frail wasp
hard widget
sand breach
#

do we not want to ramp before roar?

hard widget
frosty patrol
#

thats not how they work

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they're literally meta insane

gaunt moat
hard widget
#

Aug doesnt work as well with some classes as with others. Its not meta just by default

brittle crow
#

i missed a PRESIDENTIAL RALLY WITH PREHEAT? this hurricane is keeping me out of all the news wtf

oblique thistle
frosty patrol
#

yeah for sure but to someone who looks only at details and thinks they're awful more info than that isnt gonna do much

#

there is no meta for lower keys u can do 5 tanks and time

hard widget
#

One of the big selling points from aug is survivability by trading dps, if u dont do dps or have classes that gain good value from it. It aint THAT good

coarse nest
#

I actually have been prefering to run without an aug ngl

#

ive only been pugging 10s/11s but still

hard widget
#

I dont like playing with aug either

coarse nest
#

they seem to just slow down the key

clever belfry
hard widget
#

Aug in pug enviroment is kinda yikes imo

ionic plaza
#

I can tell you just by that details breakdown that any class that actuallyt did damage would have timed that key sintead of whatever hypothetical dps he would have done

clever belfry
#

That's it

brittle crow
clever belfry
#

then this might ve

oblique thistle
hard widget
oblique thistle
#

easier said than done though

ionic plaza
#

low DPS kills you

oblique thistle
#

making mistakes kills you

frosty patrol
#

details cant track aug damage buffs

#

u know that right

#

have to upload logs

south kayak
#

Feels like fury is really bad on raid on any fights it’s not good on

spring breach
ionic plaza
#

Okay well im not gonna bring a spec where everything they do is theoretical, hypotheitical, and spiritual, and theres no way to log or determine what they do or output

clever belfry
oblique thistle
#

Good DPS absolutely helps sure, but not dying is way way more important

#

especially with the 7 affix

hard widget
covert blaze
coarse nest
hard widget
coarse nest
#

feels good

#

feel like i could Thunder Blast* more though

#

number kinda low on details

clever belfry
coarse nest
#

might be frenzied partly

hard widget
#

No context hard to say

frosty patrol
#

this guy has brain damage idk if he can understand aug hook issues

hardy cargo
hard widget
#

Maybe he's a newer player

clever belfry
#

i wonder if the wclogs aughook github issues pages is still maintained/up

runic cypress
ionic plaza
#

Yeah i would still play. And bro youre justing dying on some Aug hill for no reason liek its obvious they suck for pugs

clever belfry
#

I've not checked in a HOT minute

ionic plaza
#

didnt mean to offend you

runic cypress
#

I hate when that happens

hardy cargo
coarse nest
frosty patrol
#

yeah where the boss hooks your aug and deletes all their damage off details

south kayak
#

Now other specs are better at what fury excelled at in raid, pretty much shit dps

runic cypress
#

Can the abo hook hunter pets and DK ghouls?

#

I feel like they do a lot

neat totem
# weary sail

When it says 100 rage is that still applicable with 130 rage cap? Or do those change to 130

gaunt moat
south kayak
clever belfry
#

fury still does 2 global aoe

hard widget
clever belfry
#

better than anyone else

south kayak
gaunt moat
#

rip

hard widget
#

Ur making so many statements, but where is the explaination

south kayak
#

I don’t think I have to explain anything lol

weary sail
#

goddamn thunderblast

gaunt moat
#

i can't seem to be getting away from fury myself i try other specs but i'm too in love with it i guess

south kayak
#

Shit ST damage and now the aoe is worse due to nerfs

#

Like what am I doing

runic cypress
south kayak
hard widget
#

i mean

#

Thats why i ask

ionic plaza
#

I like fury gameplay more but i feel like arms is the better universal spec rn because of how much more the ST is and then if youre good at it you can do compareable dmg in aoe and M+

hard widget
south kayak
oblique trail
hard widget
#

xD

south kayak
hard widget
#

UR A WARRIOR GOD DAMNIT

buoyant salmon
#

specifically targeting the aug is crazy work

oblique trail
#

It's been catching strays from Fury sins to the point whre it's like 30k~ between them both in full raid setups

runic cypress
#

I'm gonna either play ret next patch or try to find a group where I can tank, can't be bothered anymore with this shit tbh

rose bay
#

Just play frost, twice the damage, half the threat, 3 times the meta

oblique trail
#

And in keys Fury retains most of its ST while going for AoE

buoyant salmon
#

god bless

ionic plaza
#

not mid for 615 ilvl dawg you crazy

oblique thistle
#

I will say, I feel that the nerfs coming in the .5 patch do feel a bit unjustified considering the nerfs we have already received

oblique trail
#

My Arms sim basically stabilised and gained a bit after the nerf

south kayak
#

I don’t know about you fellas but I wanna do damage to the boss

ionic plaza
#

and a pawg where the pulls arent perfect and max aoe

oblique trail
#

I am also doing damage to the boss

ionic plaza
#

pug*

young swan
oblique trail
buoyant salmon
#

1.2m with an aug is just straight up bad

south kayak
oblique thistle
buoyant salmon
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unless ur have the most cooked route ever and are hitting 1 enemy for large parts of the key

runic cypress
fluid cedar
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thane worth learning yet? or should i hold off for bt/rb buffs

oblique trail
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Thane is worth playing yes

hard widget
buoyant salmon
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the aug was probably total beans, most are

gaunt moat
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i just want to be able to burst more often in m+ because palaret is triggering me hard

oblique thistle
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thane claps

young swan
buoyant salmon
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but calling someone out for being beans while nobody did well in the group is just wild to me

gaunt moat
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🤓

young swan
ionic plaza
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Bro thinks he can link a different damage log, in a different dungeon, in a different group, and compare a log

runic cypress
frozen portal
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just griefed myself in defensive stance for a whole raid

oblique trail
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Consider a reminder

hard widget
oblique trail
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To go out of it

frozen portal
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at least it was heroic

south kayak
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He’s trapped

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He can’t

oblique trail
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Box I'm gonna be real with you chief

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You are an omega grifter

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Don't think anyone will take you remotely serious if you say "I will not play warrior"

south kayak
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They don’t have to

buoyant salmon
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wcyd

south kayak
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Why would I leave this discord

hard widget
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Banezi trying to decrease the warrior population

frosty ibex
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FINALLLYYYYY

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FINALYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

buoyant salmon
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if all you do is come here to complain why stay

young swan
runic cypress
gaunt moat
nimble ermine
frosty ibex
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yeah i know brothers but i know late

ionic plaza
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i know. what im saying is. If i did 1.1m on a +9 wake with that group, Then you do 1.5m on a +9 stoenvault with a completley different group on a different day, that doesent mean that he would do 1.5m with my group in that +9 wake i was in lmao. not how that works

nimble ermine
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i think everyone has them now