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cuz they do?
they do, the only place I think thane is actually hands down better is silken court and m+
The only big discrepency I see is that TB in the sims is hitting WAAAYY harder and im not sure why
got it thanks
you dont really need to track it atm tho we tracked it during df cuz of a tier set bonus
check the #updates-midnight current bug going on with tb procs
may be a dumb question but is there any point in having whirlwind on my bar if thunderclap gives the buff?
that doesnt have anything to do with the individual hits
nope
i removed it
Oh I thought he meant collectively harder, not single procs
its likely both, but based on his damage breakdown, he doesnt have that bug
thane is very swingy in terms of RNG
I dont have a problem with the amount of procs, my 19 vs the sims 20
lots of % based procs instead of rppm
got ya
guys what are the ideal embellishments for m+
they're consistently random
yeah exactly lol
hmm. is seismic reverberation not working? Theres no dmg breakdown for seismic on my details but there is on the sims
yeah thats not consistent lmfao
im running ascendance on weapon and vers bracers
but they somewhat do the same at the end
click the arrow on thunderblast/clap
I did
maybe thats the problem
I was pretty on top of the mobs but maybe not enough?
It’s just an extra clap that’s doing 1/3 damage of other claps
^
If you look at the avg hit of it
Yeah i have that
It working then 
Then wtf?!?! ugh lol. Is there a way to show in sims how hard a certain ability hits each time? like how it is in details?
ngl, putting TC on CD w/o a TB proc feels weird when it procs since it doesnt reset CD
It seems they have an HTML report, give me a sec
is there any harm in having avatar+roar on a macro?
just dont die?
For slayer or thane? Their openers are a bit different. Fine for slayer, for thane prob not
real
you need a calculator
Slayer brain dead, thane slightly requires brain
oh
not rly
other guy
DIVINE STORM DIVINE STORM DIVINE STORM DIVINE STORM
and fury war?
you need a spreadsheet for fury war
okay, avg TB dmg on sim around 600k, mine is around 270k. wtf
so are we all switching to Dracthyr in two weeks?
no?
i dont wanna look a scally
MT is fun with the light effects ngl
Its crazy MT is actually doing really well rn but we are getting gutted on the 22nd
i let the sim do my Gems and he is not mixing color to benefit from the daimond algari
it not siming right ? or not worth mixing
how?
So thane feels good and hit hard right now in m+ ?
Thane just a little bugged... this was silke court
playing with a dh is really op for thane
How is that you have more rampage and BB than CB ? Isnt CB supposed to be number 1 ?
Because he used rampage more. 😉
Dh or shaman?
was trying to get TB proccs
dh
No I mean isnt we suppose to hit CB more than Rampage?
7% today
Does this seem about right for close to 5min smacking cleave dummy's?
whats good stats for mastery and haste % wise
does not procc at all from BB?
if TB doesnt proc at all from BB/BT
u have the bug
It does, but also from BT and you can spam that easier.
So priority BT is top priority?
No...
whatever sim tells you is good
Or is it still Rampage not enraged > CB > BB > BT > RB?
what's eating my BB during burst? it reverts to BT without pressing it
unhinged
ravager
ravager/bladestorm unhinged
ah shiet ty
Can roar and rav be in the same marco?
Ty
I don't think so....
never noticed unhinged when bladestorming lmao
they both take a gcd so no
I didn't think you can have 2 damage abilities being used at the same time.
yeah thats why you always rampage before bs
You'd have to hit the macro twice.
getting a free BB cast
Avatar and Roar in a macro is okey ?
Yes
guys, the 3 trash mobs directly after 2nd boss mists, would you send cds on those cause you have them, or hold for the double pull tanks seem to do after those 3?
youd hold right?
\O/
Save for the big pull.
Yeah hold for big
you can odyn
i pray for the tank that doesnt either skip them or drag them down to combine with the pack to the right
literally just lost to an MM hunter cause he had cds for those pulls and i didnt but then i got told to use cds fuck that
If anybody is telling you how to play your class, tell them to pay your sub before they give you anymore opinions.
If a Hunter tells you how to use your cd‘s you know who lost
Thanks😂
We don't use Odyn's Fury in ST?
not on pure st no
not pure ST
oooooh it all makes sense now the tank was his friend yeah, i see what happened now lol
Passive stat increase > OF for ST
fight with adds
Just coming back
Sikra and princess I guess
Yeh
and rash 
Stfu
(im jk)

Rash has adds though? you mena for logs?
anyone have any ideas why my macros doesnt work ?
they should go to prison for that rash shit
they are changing it back dont worry
Where you see that at?
Good! Fuck WCL
#removeallpadding
Sucked getting gang banged by blizzard and WCL
numbnuts 
can ramage be in a macro as like the 3 cast?
Depends on what you wanna use in that macro
what do you mean the 3 cast ?
me topping guild meters feeling like a champ then goes checking logs after raid
on rash
rec av ram then roar
The 3 hits during gcd I guess
anyone here good with macros?
for fuckin real, iwas wondering what was happening
Will not work since Ramp and Raw is spending GCD
I guess
ty
Tbh never tried that😂
yea, even WCL nerfed us
figured it would make a nice one in all button
can chatGPT code WAs too?🤔
no
noob bot
Only DK‘s are fine to play all in Macro…. warriors are fckd at that too hehehe
what we playing now? slayer or thane?
cowfarmers is using it to help him holy moly
was are just lua and theres an okay? amt of forum discussion abt it so itll be fine
I do in Raid Slayer and 10+ Keys Thane
But hadn‘t time yet to try thane in raid
Lets enjoy these 2 weekz pre nerf boys
Crit tryid thane?
idk is he?
How good is execute compared to Crushing Blow/Bloodbath. if I’m full aoe raid talents and benefiting from recklessness and can get rampage out without pressing it, should I be skipping?
What dungeon ia that
Will print that one and hang it on the wall
Mists
8.5% after an entire dungeon :swag:
Thane beating DKs now what?!
and in rotation is big difference? or?
how many procs
theres a very good chance its bugged
no
715
to be precise
honestly I felt like I was slapping hard this dung
what are the proposed buffs to AM?
i feel like it should be doing more
than lightning strike
@fallen sedge were u getting procs from bt/bb
the rotation change a lot with the mountain thane?
check wowhead
Bro it’s dead stay focused
no idea, didnt watch
raid builds from dps-faq still valid?
Holy!
🤯
It dies Sunday
what is the opener with moutain thane aoe and single?
these raids are just getting to be more and more shit with fps
changes anything ? or i just thunderclap after
Prepping for M BroodTwister, my RL wants me to be first interrupt on worm adds, but I think it may be better to be a later kick since Fury burst doesn't need ramping.
Anyone with experience on M BroodTwister that can weigh in?
Only fps issue i have is silken during first intermission with the webs, lol. Everything else is fine. I don’t get it
i am 3rd kick and with CDs, fury fuck good
one of the best bursters
taking fury away from adds is kinda troll
Do you usually get your burst in before or after kicks?
yea I dump all my CDs before I have to kick
Okay
cast is like 3s iirc, so I got 8s time before I have to kick
I figured it would be better, thanks for the prompt answer dude
Even if you're the 1st kick, the boss should be over the melee add. Just focus kick it and do your thing
I mean, one worm is basically insta-dead
It's specifically worm add
depending on which worm you are
Not melee adds
Or just strategically tell them you're lagging too hard when the adds spawn to kick the first 2 worms
do you not have ranged kicks?
is mountain buff live?
Melee should be kicking one worm and ranged the other
Lmao no, not gonna sandbag
And stacking on the melee kick worm
Aoe: Reck - Ava - TB - TR - Rav - Odyn’s iirc
ya thats troll. you need to be 3rd or later
yes
We do, I think it's mostly for the eggs with multiple worms
sick
just finish a +10 SV, is the damage order of the skills correct?
are you playing vc
any
crushing blow way too low
any nifty trinkets to go try winning the lottery on in ulduar timewalking?
Hello guys, first time here, anyone have att talents for fury warrior and some addons that i could use?
yo friends quick question, is dungeon slice as Fury good for simming or not recommended ?
Honestly that's a fairly normal place for CB as Thane
You dont have the same giga amp from Slayer
Hey, anyone got a good new rotation for Thane now?
And Ramp also just does more damage as Thane
hi yogi
That's not saying a lot
nerfs are massive to fury? or this guy just bad died probably i bet
should I set loot specialisation to arms so I don't get 1H weapons?
ye
yes
Having consistent damage as thane feels so nice
I think I'm fucking up the rotation a bit at the moment
Need to go and recheck the prio list
I also really miss Bladestorm 😦
pretty much the same tbh
Ravager just doesn't feel the same
only opener is affected
Is it worth taking the launcher trinket?
Planned to take the back, but simc no matter from which angle puts that trinket as the top choice by far
any tips on opener a prio now?
Hey dont shoot the messenger
sorry i cant dps unless i have an aug evoker, blistering scales, PI, Windfury, Emyreal Ward, Mystic Touch, amd hunters mark
realest message
am no theorycrafter so take it with a grain of salt, also didnt really test it to much yet, basically you do mostly the same but while you use ravager with unhinged you only press TB, Ramp, and CB and let ravager do the BB for you
they will fix like with aug
you cant also dps unless everyone is only hitting the boss while you are hitting boss and adds 🙂
how tricky is the fury mage tower bros?
Sending this to my prot paladin I do m+ with
🐀
That's me
🐀

Not having a dispel this week is mega sad
BITTER IMMUNITY Cx
This assumes it'll work on us
Because the last armour buff was changed pretty quick to not work with ATT

and also we dont use whirlwind but TC ? 😄
JA CLAPPIN
If ur running Thane
Slayer still uses ww
is the only different for MT is to put thunderclap in the rotation where WW was b4?
so we have same rotation like rampage CB bloodthirst and Thunder clap?
And use procs evrey time
and with opener something different? or still reckles avatar roar ?
straight RSI in your finger
I got kicked from a group because a shaman joined the queue after me. 
warr moment
requeue as tank and brick the key as revenge hehe
I was already at the stone and starting to summon as well. Fuck that gets me so salty
deserved
That's what you get for not playing FDK/Mage/Aug
lol this shit is hard as fuck
Saw this earlier and it made me want to punch my monitor
every time i get her hp down like 10% once loads of imps come in i get nuked
even with stuns
You talking MT?
yeah
once i saw the imps i took it
they just nuke me down before i can get all of them
prob just too newb
And so it begins.
id go buy some drums but i dont think im gonna get anywhere near killing her lol
1762 was his main score of course, for a +9 SV
I did that back when they released TW Mage Tower, talents were different so I'm not sure how it is now. Gotta cleave the adds always and keep track of her ability timer. Let them live and it's GG
I'm taking 0 chances on that mf
im taking 0 chances in bringing a single warrior
Look them up and see their history in raider io
They are frfr, but I'm sat at 2350 with a SV8 ++
Like...I think I can do the 9... but alas I'm not a FDK
Can I macro ravager to drop on my charatcer ?
ohh wtf TC procs the meat cleaver effect thats cool asl
yes
its quite literally impossible man !! im dying at the exact sane moment
/cast [@player] spellname should work
she spawns the imps that translocate
./cast [@player] Ravager
Ty
Save CDs
Really, the only scary imps are the 2 that run up and cast
Just shockwave them and OF.
The little imp, throw a hammer at it.
When she mass summons imps, pop CDs, roar and blade storm.
Or ravager. Whatever you have.
you guys using alch caos flask on raind and m+?
yes
We like stats
🐀
cool ty
🐮 🧑🌾 👑
The difference in difficulty is negligible
dang
Both specs are easy
i find arms a little less zug zug for my liking
i mean for challenge
Wait are you talking about zek
Fury is better for that cause fury is a little more tanky
No, hes doing mage tower
doing mage tower.
i just saved ravager and odyns fury foir the second wave where she spaswns 3 imps
popped health pots stuns cds and nuked ads as hard as i could
i still get killed in 0.2 seconds
lmao
You're interrupting the imps right away?
Wait, you're thane?
Go slayer.
okay
It's a ST fight.
Thane doesnt burst like slayer.
More of a gradual ramp up and sustained damage.
Slayer just blows your load. Which is what you want to kill the imps quickly and get back to killing her.
okay
ty
ill try it
10 sec rp before each wipe making me want to punch my monitor lol
soooo Thane now is the play for M+?
Does weapon damage affect stormstrike/nature damage?
Yup
i prefer slayer to thane im a bit dissapointed
^
^^

i actively play fun wrong build in m+ because i find it fun
Im happy thane is pulling ahead somewhere, slayer visuals are sooo boring
At the end of the day, unless you're pushing .1% title, you can play either in m+
i am going to play it i just prefer the one i like being higher damage lol
same
i just like bladestorm go brrrrr
i like the little mini ones that slayer has
i feel like a beyblade
of death
gonna try arms one as im fairly sure i did this one during legion
thane is fucking fun love it!
Question about the affix this week.is it any healing done? Just wondering whether a well timed blade storm could potentially provide enough healing
ye it just looks at raw healing can all be overhealed aswell
although you shouldnt be using bladestorms for the affix either IV it or wait until someone deals with it more effectively
I’ll throw out an impending victory if I know I won’t need it for 25 sec haha
even if you are you can play either with current thninf
Any healing done, BS won't heal through it but will help your healer if you don't have dispels.
tuning
IV or, better yet, just get a priest or shaman to ignore the affix for you.
so how do we deal with the affix then? I always see on reddit. "Its not a healer affix every class has something for it"
Impending victory aint cutting it
you can technically bitter immunity it
although if you're getting your gameplay advice from reddit you're cooked ye
its not worth it for you to specifically spec into dealing with it its almost always better to just let someone else deal with it for you
if your healer is giga struggling maybe throw an IV + ER combo or a healthpot in there
IV itself may not be enough but you have a lot of other passive healing like bt and cshb
idk im on team steadfast
combined with some smart heals from the healer that should be enough even if the rest of the group is slacking
that makes IV enough to deal with it
Are groups actually struggling with this affix?
Figured this was one of the easier ones.
i can certainly see pugs struggling
it is the easiest one
the healing is deadly
but pugs be pugs
its just a sanity check
just take a shaman, they have totem that cleanses everyone for all affixes
but if you fail it youg et stuff like this
(raid rashanan hard enrages at like 6:30 or 7:00)
i also hard enrage at 6:30
second wind also counts for it right?
this expansion im just not pugging, if i login and my guildies are offline i just log off
its been great tbh
Id be shocked if blizzard doesn't announce some drastic m+ nerfs for 11.0.5
I've heard maybe a handful of people actually say they are enjoying this m+ season.
the squish was a miss in hindsight
some of my friends are firmly, mid, players.. theres no m+ content suitable for them, m2 is too hard
and then the people in like a 5 range get pumped and cant progress very granularly
and 11-12 is very unfun
We went from seasons where gear was thrown around like candy and now the vast majority of players are hard stuck at 619
yeah i think honestly gilded at 8 would probably solve the problem /shrug
im not deep in the weeds this season had my first kid recently so ive got other shit to do
Then you'll just have people who can't get into 8s complaining.
provably wont get a full myth set
i feel like i dont really care if you cant handle an 8
(rude)
Hero track should go up 1-2 more levels.
i saw someone suggest hero track should just not require gilded crests
Ehh
that could also work, atm its dumb to upgrade hero to max
because myth only drops at 623 so you dont get a discount
By that logic, you could theoretically be 626 ilvl without ever stepping foot into a m+
that doesn't particularly worry me
those players dont interact with me
like how they nerfed zekvir so you cant fill a weekly delve vault easily
why do i care if someone can get champ gear with 30mins of playtime?
I can understand that.
It was a little broken.
And trivialized delves.
I think people are just complaining because they want myth track gear without doing higher level content.
So they want to go back to the welfare gear system.
I think gate myth so its hard but make it so upgrade hero gear isnt objectively wrong
wehether thats make gilded easier to get or make hero not use gilded idm
you can get max ilvl never going into m+ lol
but having said all that, gear isnt gonna solve the problem from the very very limited pug experiences ive had
the dungeons just pump people with small brains
I meant more so you can get high level gear doing only solo content.
You can get 619 by only running delves.
idk man maybe ive just got boomer brain now but i couldnt give a shit if someone ends up fully upgrade mythic gear by the end of the season doing nothing but picking herbs
make it slow or whatever but it doesnt affect me in any way
if anything, having a low stress, slow gear acquisition path would be good for when i have 45 mins to kill and cant commit to a dungeon
anyway im glad thane is better in m+ now, thunderclap is quintissential warrior to me
It does if you’re minmaxing your gear. Because you’ll be "forced" to do that content
not if the most efficient method is group content
Depends on the implementation
blizz just constantly gets blind sided making systems with more heads than hydra and being suprise pikachud when the players find some method that is quicker than intended and we all grind like degenerates doing that
still using slayer in all raid situations even with thane buffs?
Ya
ty cap'n
Better st and cooldowns still line up well
thane feels interesting. i feel i got a lot of shit wrong and i still had a fairly decent DPS overall(8 tirna)
if i want to take bitter immunity, what am i dropping
can someone let me know if its better to double use thunder blast or thunder blast then aoe combo then thunderblast again? or TB TB then aoe
imo TB TB then AOE
i would listen to other warriors too tho
Is anyone running MT for 9+ keys?
yah i like it
i tried it once last week, not sure how i feel aboot it
lmao
thunderclapping just feels like using WW for meat cleaver
with enough haste you use your 3-4 stacks ish between tclaps
So haste has more value with MT then
ive got enough haste atm but still not sure aboot it, ill try it oot this week and see how it goes
figured fortified will be better for it
Can someone please explain why when burst of power procs and i hit rampage before BB/BT the buff goes away? am i missing something?
or you have reck up
or you have rava thrown and that will use ur bb for you
Why does using a catalyst to turn this helm into a 5th tier piece make me lose 13,000 dps?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kADfYR1cZsjyar8bfzdqoW
They're both Haste/Vers but tier would be more Haste
because vers isnt completely useless
and if you've got jack shit of it then its gonna give % increase more than a smidge of haste
there is also different gems and enchants on the gear
Is there? I was wondering if I fucked something up.
Also, yeah, thank you Qinjax, I was also considering stat spread. Hmm.
the sockets are empty on the ring, worse enchant for pants
epic gem moved from belt to neck, other gems taken out of neck
I have no idea what I did to mess this up lol.
I mean, obviously it was some replacements in the sim
there should not be any non cleaved GCDs between thunderclaps
the CD literally does not allow it, thunderclap has a CD of 4 gcds, and meat cleaver requires you to press it every 5th gcd, haste has no bearing on this
when you have over 100 rage
so basically never use when BL is out
any good macros to combine cooldowns you guys recommend?
its very real that you have to skip a lot of BBs
but ravager should be out taking care of most of it
Played a couple keys with MT and outside of your burst window, it doesn't feel that great. Subpar in ST to say the least.
did slayer feel any better in ST?
is this a bug ?
think people being dissapointed in MT just forget fury is dissapointing on ST
yea i got that when trying to equip a shiled as prot lol
"this armor isn't for your spec"
like excuse me
Because blizz haven't updated glyphs like that since like...legion
when fury didn't have TC
It does
is there an addon that hides the dmg numbers coming from shit you are not directly tabbed on?
How cooked are my stats?
so is MT better than slayer now?
In m+ yes
how big of a difference in dmg is it ?
would you recommend chant of armored avoidance or chant of leeching fangs
I see on wowhead/icyveins its saying avoidance but see people doing leeching fangs
Is mountain thane better for keys now?
Apologies for the cloak winged grace vs leeching fangs
Bro i legit answered the same question 30 sec ago lmao
I got just here sorry
^
Thane on silken court worth anything?
hey bro curious, when do you send OF/ravager in the opener
ive been playing around with a few different spots*
feels cluttered regardless of how i play it
i was looking through some logs is this something i should be trying to do or just happen to be popping off the logs i looked at
specifically the 3 bt
burst of power talent on thane i think
i think i'll pass
It feels a bit weirdge no matter what u do. But when i send cd's into an instant TB -> ravager -> CB (ravager consumes BB here) into Ramp -> TB -> CB etc
This seemed the smoothests for me
And u just weave in ur OF After ur CB or after ur ramp
yea i feel super cluttered too
hmm ok it sounds like youre doing similar to what im doing then 😄
hey man 11 is only 2x as hard as 5 right? 🙂
If you have TB charges it takes top priority right
the aoe opener for thane is such a mess
agreed
yea i got no idea what it is lol
I notice a lot of people playing MT their logs are showing more rampage and CB's are lower. Is that just how it is or not optimal
i've been doing reck ava roar > rav > ramp > tb > cb > ramp > of > tb > cb
But w/e
woops forgot an ability
problem is
Ravager can proc TB
Which sucks
Thats why im delaying it personally
Like reck/ava/roar -> tb -> ravager - cb - of - ramp
It's legit a messy prio as low as you stay enraged and send CB
Seems to allign best with how ur ravager unhinged does its shit
I think it iwll be simpler when AM gets buffed on the 22nd and is viable
Really confused to what's going on here, ran a sim with 5 targets, no lust or any buffs that i currently dont have, hit the training dummies for the same duration, had the same amount of casts and hits and it's half the damage. Any ideas? 19 casts 95 hits
Idk, i think AM thane will be a mess
well see but when you dont have to game BB and CB and just send everything on cd
Thunderblast is proc based, maybe u missed some maybe u werent enraged for them
Guys, do i press Thunder clap when it procs in single target moments?
Loads of things couldve happened
yes this! pretty much exactly what i do as well
I think the lignup for stuff will be weird
Is it worth casting rav after avatar/reck over just macroing then all together [avatar/rekt/rav]
enrage uptime is 97%, can thunder blast do a different amount of damage per hit based on a proc?
its a bit better ro macor roar with avatar and reck
its nearly half the amount of damage
as then the odyns benefits from the bleed damage increase
Ur asking a question witout providing the proper things to actually analyse it tho. Just a picture of ur dmg and a part of a sim aint gonna answer much
hey guys i ran a 5 minute sim. what can i improve on any ideas?
Have you tried increasing the pixel density??

I mean what more information do you need exactly to help?
thats not how sims work dog
It helps my dps when I raid shirtless and yell every time I bladestorm.
I'm genuinely curious to what's going on.
make it grayscale
Clipping classes
lets at least get your ilvl and overall dps instead of the spread
Log what ur trying to do. Upload the log, then check the log and the sim
And if u want others to look, then send the log and sim over
kk
May i ask what is better right now to play in m+?
DK
Frost
xd
thane feeling really strong after the changes (+7 mists, 616 ilvl)
Between a ford fiesta and a ferrari
mountain thane for higher m+ keys
🙃
thane seems to be pulling ahead in M+ at least from my experience, slayer is still goated for raid
if you are playing warrior fury on 10+ play thane
The analogy should have been more like between a 1999 dodge dart and 1998 Cutlass a Lamborghini is faster
MT in M+ - Slayer in raid
the wowhead has been updated
ok ok ty ill try thane for m+
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZcmTWLFdK4D7HYrz#fight=last&type=casts&source=12&view=timeline https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5rVDsC6FAhZE4WZH7KJxir this should work? Let me know if anything else is needed @hard widget
I dunno if someone replied, but this is just how the unhinged talent appears in logs
Its because raidbots count lightning strikes into thunder blast
@hallow sphinx
And warcraftlogs doesnt
this is not normally!!!
never running AK without a shammy ever again
ahhh, makes sense. Knew it would probably be something simple. Appreciate it, I should've looked harder.
@fickle obsidian
ty was also assuminnng it was thane burst of power
any of you guys play around burst of power?
chef anda
noob
question will this be REALLY good for us? it can go up to ilvl 626 BRD PTR atm
ilvl is a crutch
wait for it to be implemented in sim
but kinda doubt
Enrage is a crutch. Take rampage off your bars if you want to be a real gamer.
ILVL is a delusion given to the weak by the strong. Or so I've heard.
they dont code them as actual hits but procs most the time to avoid them being bis but being a fun little thing
there its this as well
yeah nah this is just dogshit
Lack haste = why live?
I don't think anything from the anniversary raid is gonna be good
Clapping in AoE 📈
no haste... 
there is a lot of good tanking stuff
just let fun trinkets blast on aoe
i might use for offspec
Is there a general preference between icyveins, wowhead, or maxroll for seeing the most up-to-date builds/info?
Wowhead usually is the most up to date
maxroll guide expects you to have a higher level understanding going in
yea thats why i like wowhead the best
are spriest becoming op in the silence or what? just had one doing a 2m12 overall on tirna scythe 10
Is the priority the same for st and aoe when playing thane or does something change
rb > bt in st, bt > rb in aoe
Ive been prioritizing rampage then tb and then cb and bb
that's the only difference i can think of off the top of my head
u want to cb and bb before ramp provided enrage
Been more confusing playing thane than slayer for me
Specialy when its cds windows
Procs are all over the place
Sometimes i rampage like 3 to 4 times in a row acidentally cuz theres just so much rage
What is a high enough key to start considering MT in M+?
whenever you want to do it
that made me laugh at least, i'll try my old spriest i guess 🤓
is thane worth trying in m+ with only 2 pc
Maybe I overthink things and I don't think anyone will be able to give me an answer that will satisfy me because there's too many hypotheticals but I'm kinda hoarding my Runed Crests atm. I'm at 121 and can earn 89 more this week, which is 200 total. It'd cost 45 crests per piece of gear to upgrade to 619. That means I could upgrade 4.6 pieces of gear. I currently have two pieces of gear that are Hero track and only 610. Upgrading my Champion track trinkets sims higher but I don't want to do that. Next week, with 90 more crests, I could upgrade 6.6 pieces but I'm needing to upgrade 7 pieces total.. so maybe I am overthinking it since that leaves me only lacking one piece being upgraded to 619. I guess I mainly have to worry about getting other Hero track pieces this week that would have been a better upgrade. Typing all of this makes me realize how crazy I'm being about it though. Out of curiosity, if you're mostly just Heroic raiding, would you guys hoard if you were me or upgrade?
ik that doesnt have a lot to do with it and i should probably sim but just curious. 614 ilvl
Yeah, I'm being ridiculous because I would have to wait another week at max to upgrade everything.
I just upgrade random ass stuff whenever I want
its heroic brother pushing your buttons correctly at 600ilvl is enough to clear it
That's what I was doing and I've been stressed out about fucking myself and it hasn't happened yet.
Does the bonus effect on the main stat gems require different types of gems?
moutain thane still shit?
if all your doing is heroic raiding then nothing actually matters in the way of upgrading stuff because youre still playing in a more casual way
thats like someone saying "guys whats teh meta build for x champ in league of legends, all i do is play unranked" who cares, play what you want, if you want numbers to go up make numbers go up
we going stronk
I agree to an extent but I think that it’s fun to min-max to the best of my ability. I would like to Mythic raid but I will be able to upgrade everything in two more weeks so it doesn’t matter anyway. I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I think I’ll probably upgrade these two Hero track pieces, I’ll still have enough crests to upgrade any other two pieces I get including trinkets, which I think would be a bigger DPS increase.
hitting dummies for an hour will do more to increase your ability than upgrading a few pieces of gear
unless your looking at your parses and can see nothing but pinks gear means jack
You’re right, especially considering this is my first tier as Warrior since TBC haha. I’ve got room to grow. I’m only hitting purps, low purps, in pugs.
is the rotation of thane pretty much the same as slayer? just replace WW with thunderclap?
There’s some different prio regarding thunder blast
farming thunderfury on all my chara and now i have 1 of each arms on 2 character's
where can i see the opener / prio?
Wowhead
Yeah
are we still gaming AM+uproar for broodtwister prog?
What is this exactly? +9 necrotic wake, the Aug evoker was 2.1k IO and enough ilvl, Was he boosted? sureley Aug isnt this bad
guys hekili is a must need addon to play fury
Theres no way that is what they output
thats like bot damage
guess ill just not bring them anymore
55%~ from buffs is about right
Yeah ill be honest i dont have a clue what evokers do or why or what they even are
you bring em in super high keys because you time everything in one big chunk / pull
if theyre just firing shit off randomly and not lining anything up then its gonna fall flat on its face
For hekili, am I good to just set it to auto and turn off my brain?
most of their damage comes from buffs thats why their base damage is so low
the dark green bar on your details represents their theoretical contribution of damage from buffs (based on buff uptime) and its very very not accurate most of the time (maybe, idk)
Interesting
for the most part its fine
What about the rest of the parts
Well even so it was less than the tank
thats the "line everything up" part
define rest of the parts
you bring them because they buff the shit out of tank and healer to make your group more durable, but buff uptime in PUGs will always be scuffed and things won't line up properly because group is not coordinated
Prot warrior does damage rn
Rampage prio tragic
This
You said for the most part. What should I be doing in parallel to get all the parts
ignoring some of the time it tells you to pop CD's because it doesnt take into account stuff like mob health on like, bladestorm, or holding bladestorm to sync with avatar to burst the next pack harder, stuff like that
Did not know you should withold bladestorm for Ava. I thought it should mostly be used on cooldown.
Any other tips?
Guys is there any build that goes MT and no unhinged?? A guy from my core is using that with bldestorm and he’s doing well on court
So guys, how optimal do you think having all 9 pieces of tier equipped is?
Like catalyze a full suit of myth tier
Also, any reccomendations for ability layouts, so switching between mountain thane M+ & Slayer Raid is less jarring?
not enough CB huh? this is a 10nw
put your clap where whirlwind goes, put ravager where bladestorm goes
Yep I think you nailed it, this feels good to open with!
cheers!
Is whirlwind fully out of the M+ rotation?
Its last resort filler
do we not want to ramp before roar?
If it procs one thats sadge tho
my hekili does this rotation ez 6m burst
details cant track aug damage properly
thats not how they work
they're literally meta insane
that moment when palaret deals 5m on every pack

Aug doesnt work as well with some classes as with others. Its not meta just by default
i missed a PRESIDENTIAL RALLY WITH PREHEAT? this hurricane is keeping me out of all the news wtf
in high keys where the group is coordinated and can take full advantage of buff windows, sure. but in PUGs and especially in lower keys? Not nearly as good
yeah for sure but to someone who looks only at details and thinks they're awful more info than that isnt gonna do much
there is no meta for lower keys u can do 5 tanks and time
One of the big selling points from aug is survivability by trading dps, if u dont do dps or have classes that gain good value from it. It aint THAT good
I actually have been prefering to run without an aug ngl
ive only been pugging 10s/11s but still
I dont like playing with aug either
they seem to just slow down the key
u missed subway surfer side entertainment replacement wow
Aug in pug enviroment is kinda yikes imo
I can tell you just by that details breakdown that any class that actuallyt did damage would have timed that key sintead of whatever hypothetical dps he would have done
That's it
subway surfers works on me
then this might ve
what'll make timing your keys easier is less deaths, I doubt that DPS was the main contributor
That is not true at all. Infact, if u do shit dps. Ur gonna make the aug look worse
easier said than done though
low DPS kills you
making mistakes kills you
Feels like fury is really bad on raid on any fights it’s not good on
Dps is usually a main contributor lol
Okay well im not gonna bring a spec where everything they do is theoretical, hypotheitical, and spiritual, and theres no way to log or determine what they do or output
even logs are quite fake :)
Good DPS absolutely helps sure, but not dying is way way more important
especially with the 7 affix
It is a decent contributor, but still clean runs are mostly what times u keys in anything under 12
Bad vibes
hook incidents
+10 Ara-Kara
Imagine if details didnt exist, would u run solo?
feels good
feel like i could Thunder Blast* more though
number kinda low on details
spoiler: they did not get better this xpac
might be frenzied partly
No context hard to say
this guy has brain damage idk if he can understand aug hook issues
the only hook youll get is this right hook 
I mean no need to put it like that tho
Maybe he's a newer player
i wonder if the wclogs aughook github issues pages is still maintained/up
You mean like third boss necrotic hook issues?
Yeah i would still play. And bro youre justing dying on some Aug hill for no reason liek its obvious they suck for pugs
dbts
I've not checked in a HOT minute
didnt mean to offend you
I hate when that happens


yeah where the boss hooks your aug and deletes all their damage off details
Now other specs are better at what fury excelled at in raid, pretty much shit dps
Such as?
When it says 100 rage is that still applicable with 130 rage cap? Or do those change to 130
you're not ready for the 22th my friend
I’m just disappointed
fury still does 2 global aoe
About what?
better than anyone else
I’m not gonna be playing warrior in .5
rip
Ur making so many statements, but where is the explaination
I don’t think I have to explain anything lol
goddamn thunderblast
i can't seem to be getting away from fury myself i try other specs but i'm too in love with it i guess
How bro felt typing that
same
LMAO
Ur saying other classes excell in raid compared to us, but dont say who or on what. U say ur rerolling off warrior in .5, but no explaination. Ur saying ur dissapointed in warrior without explaination
i mean
Thats why i ask
I like fury gameplay more but i feel like arms is the better universal spec rn because of how much more the ST is and then if youre good at it you can do compareable dmg in aoe and M+
Nothing has changed since last week realistically other than us gaining dmg
I know it hasn’t but I do get these 3 am depressions
But is the ST really that much better compared to Fury
Man the fuck up, ur a warrior
xD

UR A WARRIOR GOD DAMNIT
everyone in here was doing pretty mid
specifically targeting the aug is crazy work
It's been catching strays from Fury sins to the point whre it's like 30k~ between them both in full raid setups
I'm gonna either play ret next patch or try to find a group where I can tank, can't be bothered anymore with this shit tbh
Just play frost, twice the damage, half the threat, 3 times the meta
And in keys Fury retains most of its ST while going for AoE
And fury st is doshit
my arms sim has been the same for 2 weeks lol
god bless
not mid for 615 ilvl dawg you crazy
I will say, I feel that the nerfs coming in the .5 patch do feel a bit unjustified considering the nerfs we have already received
My Arms sim basically stabilised and gained a bit after the nerf
I don’t know about you fellas but I wanna do damage to the boss
and a pawg where the pulls arent perfect and max aoe
I am also doing damage to the boss
pug*
play a different class lmfao
self report auto correct
1.2m with an aug is just straight up bad
616 without an aug buffing me... I'd say that it is kind of mid. He's got a point
unless ur have the most cooked route ever and are hitting 1 enemy for large parts of the key
How bro felt typing that
thane worth learning yet? or should i hold off for bt/rb buffs
Thane is worth playing yes
Its 2 buttons difference
the aug was probably total beans, most are
i just want to be able to burst more often in m+ because palaret is triggering me hard
thane claps
the logic is reasonable in a vacuum but yeah its cringe as fuck
but calling someone out for being beans while nobody did well in the group is just wild to me
🤓
who are u
TELL EM XAN
Bro thinks he can link a different damage log, in a different dungeon, in a different group, and compare a log
I'm a ghost trapped in this discord because I have unfinished business
just griefed myself in defensive stance for a whole raid
Consider a reminder
U just linked a screenshot of an aug dmg on details
To go out of it
at least it was heroic
Box I'm gonna be real with you chief
You are an omega grifter
Don't think anyone will take you remotely serious if you say "I will not play warrior"
They don’t have to
have been telling him to leave for a week and a half now
wcyd
Why would I leave this discord
Banezi trying to decrease the warrior population
if all you do is come here to complain why stay
gz brother, couldve gotten them for free by playing mop remix for like 2 weeks
Those were free during remix
hmmm i can't seem to understand the word grifter it says it's a swindler is that what you meant? 
bit late to the party but grats
yeah i know brothers but i know late
i know. what im saying is. If i did 1.1m on a +9 wake with that group, Then you do 1.5m on a +9 stoenvault with a completley different group on a different day, that doesent mean that he would do 1.5m with my group in that +9 wake i was in lmao. not how that works




