fury

[warm crag]

it even includes the extreme nuance of opportunist

[inner shadow]

so when you charge reck rampage spear bladestorm

[honest karma]

Slam is bottom, which means top prio

[inner shadow]

you have 3 choices

rampage cb or execute

which you prio

[smoky vale]

no

you have 1

[honest karma]

Slam slam slam, BT, repeat

[inner shadow]

slam?

[compact siren]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[inner shadow]

fuck am i gonna do w slam

[warm crag]

go down the priority list until you reach the first item that you can cast

[smoky vale]

no the correct answer

[inner shadow]

i never use it

[idle ember]

Damn thane is fun in m+

warr is back

[winter shoal]

DMd you a video that might help explain some of the underlying logic instead of just reading the priority list

[warm crag]

zen i will genuinely go through this with you slowly

[inner shadow]

is it rly?

[idle ember]

yeah just tried it first time in an nw+9

[covert void]

slayer was fun. more interested in whether it's better damage wise.

[marble swift]

How's the nerf feeling

[nocturne relic]

That's because it's a last resort

[idle ember]

big thunder blasts

[fickle cedar]

what nerf

[honest karma]

How’s that boss dam

[warm crag]

if you are looking at this priority top to bottom, have already pressed reck ava spear and bladestormed, you should have access to rampage and crushing blow

[marble swift]

Ok anime avatar

[onyx spire]

thoughts on seal of the poisoned pact? trying to decide if I should take it from vault

[fickle cedar]

im genuinely asking

[nocturne relic]

If he could read he'd be very upset rn

[warm crag]

which number is the first time either rampage or crushing blow appears with a conditional we meet

[marble swift]

Slayer nerf

[thick fossil]

[compact siren]

Slam owns

[inner shadow]

now bear with me here

thats where im going

[fickle cedar]

we are neutral on ST and a really small buff on aoe as slayer

[inner shadow]

if you have execute

but capped on rage

and enraged

which do you give it up to?

[smoky vale]

you press cb

[inner shadow]

huh

[smoky vale]

unless you have 3 mfe

[winter shoal]

Unless you have 3x MFE

Damn beat me to it

[warm crag]

you dont execute above ramp and cbe unless you have 3x MFE

[honest karma]

Slam

[inner shadow]

yeah when i say execute

[warm crag]

like this is outlined in the priority

[inner shadow]

is with 3x mfe

[smoky vale]

bozo

[warm crag]

then you press execute first???

[smoky vale]

i sleep the dumy

[inner shadow]

okay

[winter shoal]

Common me L

[inner shadow]

spongie

the whole thing was

when they bl and u pop 3-4 first cds

[nocturne relic]

What am I witnessing here

[inner shadow]

tend to always have mfe ready

rampage

and enrage

and i think more rampage then execute

[warm crag]

this is covered by the priority list in the rotation section

[inner shadow]

or execute thenrampage

[smoky vale]

then you have to practice

[smoky vale]

hit the dummy for 1 hour

[warm crag]

i will post it again

[pseudo dawn]

moutain thane build with AM?

[red berry]

no AM yet, no

[smoky vale]

look at your previous mentions

[warm crag]

it even puts execute above bladestorm (this is wrong do not do this)

[compact siren]

Can you type it out please

[warm crag]

press N and then click arms

[inner shadow]

right, i also thought that and wanted to ask here thats why

[arctic sinew]

Can you post it again but this time in comic sans?

[warm crag]

no

[compact siren]

When do I click ummmmm

[fickle cedar]

i mean if you are gonna lose jugernaut you gotta do it

[compact siren]

Hamstring

Please

[warm crag]

its probably technically a dps increase in sim cause sim can't fail to proc mfes

[smoky vale]

hamstring is #1 prio

does big dam

[compact siren]

Hamstring blasts burst

[warm crag]

just make sure you press execute when you need bs cdr and enemy has 3x mfe

[smoky vale]

spongie

give me your patience

[warm crag]

noobers deserve patience

[hardy cargo]

I just played MT with am for science and it is fun to play but #s still feel underwhelming idk how RA will play but ravager feels like such shit man

[compact siren]

Spongie has no patience he hits me a lot

[wild wind]

Guys, we going MT for Ulgrax, blood and brood?

and queen

[warm crag]

time for dual destinies

[warm crag]

i need my hoil syntho class item

back in the mines with you

[compact siren]

Login

[winter shoal]

Are you doing the rotation right? I was fucking up pressing too many RB and not enough BT

[smoky vale]

im doing my best

[hardy cargo]

my bt and rb casts were about equal, I think I was doing it wrong at the start but changed around first boss of AK

[gusty cloak]

can someone explain #1

[fickle cedar]

avatar gives 2 stacks

[inner shadow]

you need to understand one thing, not everyone who asks down to ground questions is to be made fun of, there is some underlying idea they're trying to come with but they struggle

so chill out

[smoky vale]

you get 2 tb if you have it talented

[winter shoal]

Ava gives you free thunder blast stacks, so you want to use thunder blast before you ava so as not to overcap

[covert void]

the speech. they told you plenty of times where the rotation was and you kept disagreeing.

[fossil hull]

so the new thane spec will be same as the wow head one

or is there a nicer one after th ebuffs?

[edgy widget]

Wowhead is updated, as are the links in #1273899855852339200

[worldly cave]

Ravager suck 🤮

[winter shoal]

Love you ty king

[dire vigil]

When you say 14% increased cleave for Thane, is that over Slayer or over what it was before the buffs?

[arctic sinew]

It's 14% over Fdk 😎

[dire vigil]

😎

[arctic sinew]

(i wish)

[cedar crane]

14% over slayer 😂

[faint whale]

Thank you Archi

[edgy widget]

to slayer
offering comparable single target to Slayer and upwards 14% increased sustained cleave in Mythic+.

[fossil hull]

thanks!

[dire vigil]

Thane is 14% above Slayer in sustained MT cleave in m+?! 😦

[wind sentinel]

so silly question is there any reason I wouldnt want to swifty macro avatar and recklessness together? Im not seeing anything thats reducing their cooldowns if im using reckless abandon

[gusty cloak]

yeah but we dont have Thunderblast right off the bat when we're charging into mobs before ava

[sturdy ruin]

slayer is still more bursty so better for low keys, yea?

[arctic sinew]

That's a priority list, not opener

[inner shadow]

because that is not my question

[dire vigil]

I didn’t realize the buffs to Thane were that substantial

[gusty cloak]

ahh bet bet

[south kayak]

Going to try that one without OF and Titan's for sure

[winter shoal]

So you wouldn't follow that line bc you don't have thunder blast

[inner shadow]

i was elaborating piece by piece as i started thinking how to explain my question

[winter shoal]

Unless you carried one from the last pack

[gusty cloak]

makes sense now ty

[wind sentinel]

the opposite from what im reading. Higher keys favors slayer allegedly

[arctic sinew]

Someone in na stream a thane key pls

[short cobalt]

do we take TR or Spear?

[queen linden]

Fuck spear

[winter shoal]

Nah thane better if things last long enough to live slayer's burst

[sturdy ruin]

this is what i was thinking

[gusty cloak]

ravager doesnt give that 30% bonus dmg anymore?

[south kayak]

No

[hollow glen]

pugged arakara 10 thunder style

[arctic sinew]

ilvl?

[wind sentinel]

I agree with you bigbowwl but that was suggested earlier which is why I said allegedly lol

[winter shoal]

@modest condor do you think uproar is trolling if using the no-OF build Archi posted

[sick jungle]

fuck no god damnit man we can't open with reck ava as thane

[idle ember]

post breakdown

[south kayak]

hmm why not

[frozen ridge]

why tho?

[keen kindle]

So thane fucks now? LES GO

[modest condor]

i'll be honest i already dropped uproar last week for the slayer build

[winter shoal]

Sadge

[frozen ridge]

doesnt thane basically just replace whirlwind

[worldly cave]

Ravager 3%...

[sick jungle]

#updates-midnight

[gusty cloak]

big ravager

[keen kindle]

Honestly makes me wonna try fury

[hollow glen]

i did have a habbit of pressing bloodbath when i prob should have crushing blow because of slayer

[south kayak]

Ah, it is what it is

not a big issue

[sick jungle]

i love slapping my reck ava macro after charging in

felt nice

[south kayak]

at least you won't pull aggro with this lmao

[sick jungle]

:D

[modest condor]

difference is probably small anyway, im just gonna keep using titanic rage

[frozen ridge]

so you mean cuz of the higher ramp up time?

[dry hawk]

ripperino https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rrLoRqLw1ZpGL7iz6Xyjha

[sick jungle]

what're you dropping for titanic rage

[winter shoal]

VC

[modest condor]

vicious contempt most likely

[tropic lake]

big vault W's

[dry hawk]

why is that fucking non strength trinket better

[sick jungle]

ty i will drop vicious contempt and keep using my zug zug macro

[arctic sinew]

Same unless the st impact is too big

[left elk]

Wait so why cant we cold open with recklessness with new thane?

[sick jungle]

build drops titanic rage

[arctic sinew]

no OF giving enrage

[left elk]

Ohhh gotta get some whacks in first, got it

[sick jungle]

like I mean it isn't horrible so if I can get used to it I will

[covert void]

if its a minor loss ye definitely keeping titanic lol

[lavish mauve]

Its actually nice

To not pull aggrow instantly

[arctic sinew]

Exactly^ i'm always way too scared to instapop burst anyway

[keen kindle]

Okay one thing I don't miss about fury is how expensive xmog is

[sick jungle]

nah I just tell the tank it's their fault i died

[short cobalt]

so when burst of power comes up do u clap first then use it?

[arctic sinew]

"Healer adapt" 😎

[frozen ridge]

what do we take instead of titanic rage?

[short cobalt]

folr aoe

[dry hawk]

double on use is so fucking sus

[rigid stirrup]

its pretty good if the other on use is mad queens

syncs well for when you finish your burst

[dry hawk]

yeah... whent he other is this stupid ass trinket? I have a meat hook and a Mark of Khardros

[arctic sinew]

take the treacherous lol

and upgrade to 626

[manic nimbus]

first time looking at the fury chat. man it's so friendly big w

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rrLoRqLw1ZpGL7iz6Xyjha

treacherous sims like shit

[rigid stirrup]

you've caught us on an off day

[wind torrent]

Mist 10, thane blasts now

[golden hare]

we're so back

[smoky vale]

you miss all of messages or what

[dry hawk]

[keen kindle]

Oh okay yeah

[dry hawk]

what talents 👀

[keen kindle]

Thane feels really really good

[arctic sinew]

dude u simmed a 616 treacherous vs 626 mark

[south kayak]

How did ST feel?

[wind torrent]

strong

[torpid sand]

Using AM?

[wind torrent]

RA

[frozen ridge]

i mean if its only 2% behind ST Slayer for M+ builds its ok...

[covert void]

thane automatically does more damage because it simply looks awesome too

[arctic sinew]

click max all at the top

[frozen ridge]

OF and TB nerf isnt live or?

[wind torrent]

Will probably run AM when 11.0.5 patch rolls out

not yet

[gilded flicker]

reckless abandon or AM?

[queen solstice]

How is it on boss fights?

[gilded flicker]

ah

[wind torrent]

good on boss fight

[wicked pilot]

so like what list do you use for actual bis there is 3 things linked in this discord maxrool / wowhead / icy veins but maxrool has a vastly different bis list

[wind torrent]

RA

[short cobalt]

how do u opon for aoe with all cds up

[vague copper]

Give m+ thanestream

[gilded flicker]

and using ravager?

[wind torrent]

I kinda just send, I dont really think

[gleaming siren]

I can't wait to have Steadfast as the Peaks next reset

[smoky vale]

rav charge reck ramp ava roar tb something of and prio i think

[queen solstice]

Glad to hear the actual hero talents we want are good now

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rYw7k2YZfiviZhyGFi7bAH

[covert void]

I need a weakaura that shows a picture of thor, with a blue glow when blast is ready.

[somber elk]

for thane is prio thunder blast > bb > cb > rampage?

[covert void]

Bizentein is using bladestorm still, well at least when I checked talents.

[smoky vale]

check #dps-faq

[somber elk]

bizen is eu, patch not out

[smoky vale]

hes on a different patch

[covert void]

oh of course

yeye my b

im trying to practise it before tomorrow so was checking

[somber elk]

yea there I see the build

[queen solstice]

I think thane is relatively more simple right?

Don’t have to look for Mfe anymore

[night relic]

who u calling a mfer

[dry hawk]

that Larynx is just outsimming all of it

[queen solstice]

Heifer

[smoky vale]

weapon 🙂

[prime badger]

In raid se stick with slayer?

[molten wing]

socket vault

[queen solstice]

Yes

[young swan]

thinking about just taking mythic tier

[tidal kindle]

Fury rip in 2 weeks

[queen solstice]

I don’t think there is any reason for thane besides padding damage

[tidal kindle]

"Rip"

[covert void]

its not exciting, but you cant ever go wrong with myth tier really.

[molten wing]

Fury Thane ⬆️

[empty widget]

does anybody know the set bonus percent on bloodbath for optimal dps, I kept trying to get it to 70% but I see some fury warriors getting a lot of dmg from reap the storm

[dry hawk]

I'm malding about this

[queen solstice]

lol who pulls more than 1 pack these days hahaha

[edgy widget]

not sure I understand your premise

[young swan]

slayer has 0 defensive benefit

[edgy widget]

Thane does higher damage, that's the reason

[young swan]

thats at least 1 reason

[worldly cave]

next patch for oct 22?

[edgy widget]

it's not padding if the targets aren't dead lol

[edgy widget]

it has more healing, less DR

[dry hawk]

Archi, why does Larynx sim so high?

[night relic]

idk why ppl use aoe abilites in mythic+, why are they padding??

[golden hare]

it owns

[young swan]

yeah but death drive is pretty shit

[edgy widget]

cause you lose Second Wind/Pain & Gain/Death's Drive (which isn't a lot but it all adds up)
Whereas Thane gains the DR

[coarse nest]

@edgy widget sir, updates say “while the while the” friendly fyi (second bullet point)

[queen solstice]

😂 fair but like boss damage plus thane can’t be that much higher in ST to play it in raid

[wooden lagoon]

Oh was today when the thane buffs went in?

[queen solstice]

Or just play arms

[molten wing]

When i tried Thane the only thing i kind of didn't get is , do i insta slam Thunder Blast when it procs in aoe even if i'm still trying to get rid of the 4 WW/Thunder Blast stacks

[edgy widget]

discord's dogshit system doesn't let you edit published messages for like an hour, so too bad

[molten wing]

you probably just send it i guess

[queen solstice]

I mean meters

[edgy widget]

yes, you even prioritize clap

[coarse nest]

LOL all good

[edgy widget]

I still don't know what you mean

[molten wing]

ah even clap

that makes sense tbh

[edgy widget]

how is thane doing more damage to a pack of mobs a bad thing in any way, shape, or form?

[molten wing]

just didn't think too much about it i guess

[short cobalt]

ravager on pull or better to use after reck or avatar?

[queen solstice]

I’m specifically talking about raid, I don’t think any of the bosses besides brood mother calls for higher aoe damage

[smoky vale]

on pull

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rYw7k2YZfiviZhyGFi7bAH when the sims say go Larynx, I guess trust it

[inner shadow]

/cast [known:Champion's Spear,@player] Champion's Spear; [known:Thunderous Roar]Thunderous Roar could someone add ravager to this? please

[queen linden]

ooo

[arctic sinew]

Did u sim aoe aswell?

[edgy widget]

ok you should really make your statements more clear cause that's not really how it reads when you talk about pulling packs right after

[devout kraken]

Anyone done a key to know if we need to bring Bitter Immunity for the Affix this week? or will we self heal it easily

[edgy widget]

this

is

why

talking

like

this

sucks

[dry hawk]

What are people using to sim AE now?

[worldly cave]

oh runestone!

[south kayak]

Bring it just in case tbh

[smoky vale]

doesnt work

[south kayak]

you don't drop anything important for it

[rigid stirrup]

self heal not enough

[queen solstice]

My b, I was responding to someone talking about specifically, but otherwise will be more clear sir! 🫡

[rigid stirrup]

tell your shamens to bring poison cleanse totem for affix

[dry hawk]

what do we sim for AE stuff here?

[inner shadow]

its also something you tend to have when you get used to using either enter to go back in line on phone / programs, unfortunately..

[edgy widget]

all g, and you're right - Raid prefers Slayer still (maybe Ulgrex or Silken Court will have some Thane tech), while M+ prefers Thane

[south kayak]

Silken Court THane tech?

[warm dome]

Are your guides updated with those changes mate?

[plush flower]

That’s the thing, you don’t

[arctic sinew]

Try 8 target 5 min, 5 target 5 min and 5 target 1.5

[queen solstice]

I’ll have to try thane on court see if it’s any better, I imagine it could be but also there is a lot of times you only get to hit one boss

[smoky vale]

yes

[inner shadow]

anyone has the ravager @position macro?

[dry hawk]

just do an @player or @cursor macro

[queen linden]

#showtooltip
/cast [@Name] SpellName

[south kayak]

Does thane do more damage to 2 targets?

vs Slayer

[edgy widget]

the ST should be pretty comparable, so that's not an issue. It's more that Slayer can still put out quick burst on adds while Thane is doing slightly better 2 target cause of clap/blast... not to mention that Arms is still going to be dramatically better for Court either way

[dim pecan]

Ravager instead of bladestorm makes me sad

[smoky vale]

then play bladestorm

[queen linden]

^

[edgy widget]

You can play it with Thane, only thing you need to do is drop a TBlast before going into Bladestorm

[queen solstice]

Very true, I just don’t have my arms set all put together yet, so I’m still slamming them bitches with fury

[fickle cedar]

bladestorm is chill you can just relax your hand for a second unless stormbolt

[dim pecan]

That makes sense, thanks

[edgy widget]

So Reck/Ava -> Blast -> Bladestorm, just to try to avoid wasting (as many) procs from Unhinged

it's still not quite as good as Ravager, but it plays fine

[dry hawk]

hmmmm https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/83dRaFYzm2bifdBtaVYUCv MT vs https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rYw7k2YZfiviZhyGFi7bAH ST

this is why I hate simming, I never understand it

[high jackal]

is raidbots "catalyst" part of the sim weird to anyone else? it always tells me to catalyze my cloak which seems pretty useless

[pearl sequoia]

hello goregeous

[plush flower]

Yeah I mean simming top gear is pretty pointless for aoe. You’re just going to waste gold and time changing enchants around. Sim ST and just change your talents based off of what you are planning on playing

[raven oxide]

Anyone got the talents to test? For fury

[smoky vale]

#dps-faq

[edgy widget]

looks like I'm getting another socket (that I don't need)

[orchid dagger]

Is that scaled down in a dungeon?

[queen linden]

TW atm

[orchid dagger]

[south kayak]

Wildfire Wick bis

[gusty cloak]

is the macro we use reck>ava or the other way around

[orchid dagger]

Ah it's a Trinket nvm

[queen linden]

Reck ->> ava

[dry hawk]

even teh ST sim says to go Larynx/ Khadros

[orchid dagger]

Depends on Avatar followup

[smoky vale]

so what is the problem with what the sim is saying

[inner shadow]

why isnt #showtooltip /cast [@cursor] Ravager working?

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uSNwwzfFwHY9LmcppezCfJ https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wSGi61z2EGcRtvnarN3yNk I just wanted to make sure I was doing it properly beacuse there was 1 mythic track item and the Heroic crazy jump trinket

[unique umbra]

Does our rotation change with the new mountain thane m+ build?

[smoky vale]

do you have it talented?

[arctic sinew]

He's considering what to take from vault

[lilac heath]

what is the opener for thane now?

[dry hawk]

they both say Send the Larynx, so thats what I'ma do

[smoky vale]

then do it

[inner shadow]

when u find out lmk

[abstract flower]

I can either take sureki neck or sv neck both hero track but sim might just default to sureki one bc it is 6/6h default? is the vers effect worth much?

[verbal rivet]

Do you value your healers?

[edgy widget]

it doesn't really change from the old mountain thane build, but it is different from Slayer, yes

[abstract flower]

not particularly, no Cx

[brittle snow]

MT or Slayer for lvling?

[abstract flower]

MT bc it doesnt matter and MT is fun and thats probs the only time youll get to try it out 😛

[verbal rivet]

Take the raid neck bc you can farm SV neck if you really want it

[abstract flower]

Oh tru trtu

[coarse nest]

where raid slots!?

[bronze smelt]

so we're all playing thane now for keys right?

[plush flower]

It’s going to sim much higher than your current trinkets if you are having it sim at 639 regardless. Meathook is turbo mid and if your transmitter is normal track or not upgraded all the way on hero track it’s going to get outclassed by other higher ilvl trinkets for ST

[edgy widget]

I sat early raid bosses cause I don't need shit from em

[brittle snow]

Lol fair enough

[coarse nest]

Oof hate to see it

[edgy widget]

not really, I don't need shit from em!

I didn't get to sit at all through DF so its a nice break lol

[brittle snow]

So your saying im gonna have to swap to Slayer at 80?

[coarse nest]

Raid loot is honestly pretty shit this tier

[gusty cloak]

thane prio TB-CB-BB ?

[smoky vale]

archi is the opener not this ```
reck charge tc ravager ramp ava tb roar cb ramp tb of cb ramp tb
prio

[fickle cedar]

MT is for m+

[inner shadow]

is the thane aoe out already?

[hallow charm]

im having trouble finding softcaps for fury war stats, anyone know where i can look?

[verbal rivet]

Unless you’re an Agi Dual wield or a mage, it’s kinda mid.

[smoky vale]

what part of thane aoe do you mean

[nimble ibex]

Anyone got link to new thane rotation

[somber elk]

sim

[fickle cedar]

wait why are you casting rav early

[smoky vale]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[smoky vale]

to not cast it while doing my burst?

[verbal rivet]

It is the burst

[nimble ibex]

Ty

[vague copper]

WHy do we run rav over bs as thane?

[plush flower]

Rav does piss damage compared to other things you will be pressing

[smoky vale]

it does more damage

[orchid dagger]

^

[edgy widget]

So you can layer TBlast at the same time

[smoky vale]

its a wasted global mid burst and you can press it before

[wooden tide]

BT can also proc off unhinged and you want to Tblast

[somber elk]

thats wrong^^

[verbal dragon]

are we running thane?

[abstract flower]

idk, reading chat ig slayer got nerfed and ppl do thane inn keys now iunno I just woke up and opened vaults havent been on wowhead or nothin Cx

[smoky vale]

explain it then

[unique wyvern]

Hey guys, first of all, thanks for the attention you guys give here for us.

Im reaching out to ask you guys why my sims are telling me to go double on use trinkets:
My weekly chest gave me Skarmorak Shard at myth 623 ilvl and the rare cape from the raid.
I was siming to see wich one was a better pick since i already crafted a cape cause i had a rly good wrist stats.
I can craft a wrist np, but idk if the rare cape is worth since i got the Skarmorak Shard.

But my question: Is it really good to have Treacherous Transmitter/Mad Queen's Mandate and Skarmorak Shard at the same time?

Simulations i did:

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/axNxaXD3BrLQR2kVSrgHef (ST)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nV26PFX3KEqFTf5eeBeUhX (AOE)

Locking Ara-kara trinket to see what on use trinket is better

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bjRNDKTgRMEHCnCznpVA7q (AOE)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qFaT5KbAXdQyJi4ukGukgg (ST)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9aphwL3zaFNpVxAiXY2ocB (ST, but with a better ilvl Ara-Kara, mine is too low ilvl)

[inner shadow]

holy fok

[plush flower]

It is not wrong

[arctic sinew]

holy fak

[brittle snow]

Do we ever use Slam as fury

I feel like its kinda boring to use

[edgy widget]

Slayer does in ST, Thane does not

[smoky vale]

as last resort in st

[signal gyro]

how does this xalatath mechanic work this week?

[brittle snow]

Oh ok

[smoky vale]

i love getting you are wrong with 0 input why

[inner shadow]

when you crack out the opener, lmk ty

[unique wyvern]

Sry guys xD idk what to do

[smoky vale]

i just said the opener

???

[somber elk]

it is, you rav after avatas

[plush flower]

[fickle cedar]

nah it makes sense to rav before you free a gcd

[inner shadow]

it shows for me

[fickle cedar]

but why tb so late tho

[inner shadow]

wheres ravager?

[fickle cedar]

we are talking about MT not slayer

[smoky vale]

thats slayer aoe opener

[inner shadow]

i selected mt

[plush flower]

It’s okay to not understand why you are wrong. But okay

[inner shadow]

and thats what it shows below

[fickle cedar]

thats for the rotation not the opener

[smoky vale]

it doesnt show the opener

i typed out the opener

[inner shadow]

oh where

i didnt see it

[smoky vale]

^

[fickle cedar]

i would move up the first tb in case another one procs through ravager BB

[candid surge]

does something for trinket proc icd exist on retail? all these trinket was i see on wago dont show icd of procs

[dry hawk]

Thane AE 2mil sustain is fucking cracked

[smoky vale]

cant

avatar gives tb so are you just going to cast avatar alone

[inner shadow]

whys there two tbs?

[smoky vale]

or you do it rampage

[somber elk]

dude just read a guide xD

[smoky vale]

but then you just dont have roar cast

[inner shadow]

did he confirm the opener/

[hasty tide]

Gonna have to retrain my monkey brain to cast BB over CB now after rampage

[smoky vale]

because you want to dump tb

[inner shadow]

ok but when do i pop odyn's fury?

[plush flower]

You did not say state any reasoning as you why you rav after avatar. Instead just say read a guide. But hear me out, you will be pressing tb after avatar not ravager

[smoky vale]

after the bleed falls off

so tb tb something of

[somber elk]

because sim says it, lol

[inner shadow]

im going a lot of practice to fucking remember this rotation

gawdhh damni

[smoky vale]

so hit the dummy for 30 minutes

only thing you can do

[verbal dragon]

how do we trigger blast procs ratehr than clap?

[somber elk]

ye you tb and then rav xD

[inner shadow]

rav charge reck ramp ava roar tb OF tb maybe?

[plush flower]

But I thought you said read a guide..

[fickle cedar]

I do feel like titanic rage makes it a bit smoother tho

[smoky vale]

im not going to play rage

[empty widget]

wouldnt you want at least two stacks for bloodbath set bonus

[lament plover]

Are these buffs live on EU yet?

[smoky vale]

so im doing it without rage

[somber elk]

ur dumb, go ahead playing your +5´s^^

[empty widget]

you would still do raging blow first i think

[golden hare]

EU weekly reset has not happened yet

[plush flower]

Bro please stop @ing me lmao

[split solar]

sac or wep? can't decide

[grave light]

Tomorrow

[turbid glacier]

sac get the weapon from the first boss

[somber elk]

then stop spreading wrong informations

[inner shadow]

sac, craft 636 weapon lol

[inner shadow]

rage?

[golden hare]

639>636 tho

[split solar]

cheers will take sac then, got 636 wep already

[unique wyvern]

Guys, can someone help with this, please ❤️

Idk why the sim is telling me to use 2 on use trinkets 😦 Is it rly the optmal thing to do?

[oblique trail]

You never know when you'll see the Sacbrood again, but there are multiple weapons that can proc in the vault

All of which are basically equally as good

[empty widget]

got this vault today

[dry hawk]

Mine does

[gusty cloak]

Thane opener not on wowhead yet?

[willow cradle]

Two on use is not bad DPS wise but it sucks to play, is the gain worth that inconvenience to you?

[inner shadow]

u not getting 639 in ages so

[unique wyvern]

The other option is the rare cape from the raid, i have a crafted cape, but i could craft the wrist np i think

[golden hare]

idk what that means

[smoky vale]

getting a trinket is infinitely rarer than a weapon

neither does he

[cerulean gyro]

sac 100%

[oblique trail]

Kill first boss mythic and you can get a chance each week

[inner shadow]

@smoky vale rav charge reck ramp ava roar tb odyns fury tb

does this sound better?

[oblique trail]

• vault chances

[inner shadow]

cuz you will never get 2 tb back to back tho

[smoky vale]

yes you will

?

avatar gives you 2 charges

[fickle cedar]

he means there's cooldown probably so you just put odyn in between

[smoky vale]

and its a dps loss to override your odyns fury bleed

[inner shadow]

when u pop it

it goes on cd

yeah

[plush flower]

Here’s your guide bro lmao

[smoky vale]

sim is saying to ravager before cds but not prepull

its still more value to do it before when you are doing mechanics

[inner shadow]

it also used thunder cleap beore everything

hm

[smoky vale]

for the dps loss

[oblique trail]

I assume that's an AoE sim

[fickle cedar]

no idea about the state of the MT apl tho

[inner shadow]

only case where you'd use aoe no?

[smoky vale]

yeah 5 target 5 min

[gilded pawn]

Ok there you go

[oblique trail]

Haven't looked at the MT APL, but it probably has TC at the highest priority if AoE and no WW stacks, even if you have Titanic Rage talented

[gilded pawn]

We figured out why we clap

It’s also the same for non thane

You ww first

[smoky vale]

yeah

to make the ramp cleave

[static rock]

So, I just hopped on, what build is everyone using? AM? going MT? Both? or are we staying slayer and groaning about nerfs again?

[inner shadow]

mt

for aoe

slayer for st

prepare to train on dummy for hours to learn the cycle kekw

[inner shadow]

can i have the link

[smoky vale]

why do you say for hours

[inner shadow]

its a hyperbole

[cerulean gyro]

Ooof didn't like mt whe ni tried it

prefer slayer

gonna be a pain

[smoky vale]

then dont play it

just play slayer

[static rock]

How fucking different and difficult is it from slayer?

[oblique trail]

Not so fucking different and difficult

[inner shadow]

just u dont pop everything at once

[arctic sinew]

it's pretty much the same

[inner shadow]

no ava reck insta pull

[smoky vale]

reck was prepull

sim it yourself if you want the link i laready closed it

[cerulean gyro]

if it's not a big difference for sure

[static rock]

Is it more like how AM DF build was or more different?

[oblique trail]

You Charge -> Ravager -> Pop CDs

Essentially

[inner shadow]

you rava

before charge

[oblique trail]

no

[smoky vale]

im just going to press it before

idc

[oblique trail]

If you Rava before charge you lose a tick

[smoky vale]

its prob not better

[gusty cloak]

can drop VC for titanic rage, so you dont have to TC before popping off right?

[static rock]

sounds like a great way to pull agro tbh

[inner shadow]

a tick of what?

[oblique trail]

Of damage

[smoky vale]

ravager

[oblique trail]

What else

[wind torrent]

you can rava during charge

[covert void]

rather just be able to drop it at my feet with a button than have to aim, as silly as that is.

[inner shadow]

or u can use

drop @ position xd

[static rock]

agreed

[inner shadow]

but yeah

ig

drop with charge

or after charge

[sick jungle]

is there anything new I gotta know about thane in m+

[inner shadow]

idfk anymore

[oblique trail]

Yes, it's also changed to be the recommended build

[sick jungle]

it's p much the same shit just clap replaces WW right

[oblique trail]

After charge

As I said

[inner shadow]

@oblique trail so your opener is charge rava, reck rampage, avatar, tb, of tb rampage bt?

or bt then rampage at the end*

[verbal dragon]

why does the new thane build use ravager intead of bs?

[errant vessel]

wait really?

[oblique trail]

I certainly don't ava twice in the span of 2 globals

[smoky vale]

because it does more damage

[oblique trail]

Yes really

[fickle cedar]

yeah you drop rava and the pug tank moves the pack for no reason

[inner shadow]

rava*

i meant rava

[errant vessel]

do you know why?

[smoky vale]

because it goes off

?

[oblique trail]

I don't know why except it starting its "lifetime" or w/e you'd call it as you cast it, not when it lands

[feral ivy]

Is any of the BRD raid gear any good (it’s heroic track )

[smoky vale]

it spins

[static rock]

doesn't it follow mobs ?

[oblique trail]

The actual technical side of things I'm not really that deep into

[inner shadow]

it do

[fickle cedar]

its slow as fuck

[oblique trail]

I just know it works like that

[rigid stirrup]

its just reaaal slow

[errant vessel]

oh damn

[inner shadow]

@oblique trail your opener is charge rava, reck rampage, avatar, TB OF TB BT RAMPAGE ?

wait hold on

[oblique trail]

Charge -> Rava -> Reck + Avatar + Roar -> TB -> Ramp -> CB -> TB -> OF -> Yada

[inner shadow]

if you dont ravager before charge

you wont have enough for rampage

[fast galleon]

how is mountain thane now

[oblique trail]

You just want to spend your TB asap and not overlap OF bleed

[fast galleon]

?

[oblique trail]

What change does this make?

[fickle cedar]

exactly thats what ive been saying TB sooner so your ravager BT/BB procs dont overlap (will overstack TB)

[empty widget]

what bleed gets overridden and why is that in the game

[inner shadow]

you wont have enough rage to rampage

[smoky vale]

you get from reck

and charge

50 + charge

[arctic sinew]

reck gives 50

[oblique trail]

Mate

[inner shadow]

and charge 20

yes

20 charge 50 reck

[oblique trail]

Yes + Avatar

[smoky vale]

40

40

40

[inner shadow]

ah

so you pop

[smoky vale]

charge is 40 in reck

[inner shadow]

avatar

with reck

[smoky vale]

no

[inner shadow]

WELL THEN U POP RECK

BEFORE CHARGE

[oblique trail]

I'm gonna lose it

[smoky vale]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bBKoRaXGhc74XSkfqRkj81

here

stop

and look ati

it

[jovial coral]

hehe

[oblique trail]

Reading comprehension at the typical lowpoint during patch days

[smoky vale]

banezi did you see my dm 🙂

[oblique trail]

no because I close any dm requests I get

[jovial coral]

Fury s tier then a lot of new people will flood in here

[smoky vale]

gg

[oblique trail]

But it's Lewdicy if it's about the pfp

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/Opi0.gif

[jovial coral]

What about my dm 👉 👈

[thick fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371482745437683723/1285187642090323998/834ec0e7d2d449fa45122ac9ef6b7cae.gif

[oblique trail]

|| ||

[inner shadow]

so opener is actually
reck - charge - thunderclap - ravager - rampage - avatar- tb - roar - cb - rampage - tb - of

[jovial coral]

🤓

[gusty cloak]

you guys are overcomplicating things

[arctic sinew]

+1

[smoky vale]

thats what the sim said

[spice wind]

Just mash the fucking buttons mate

[inner shadow]

thats how i feel about thane

good fucking luck remembering the order

[smoky vale]

?

[empty widget]

fuck that im just gonna charge roar reck avatar ravager then rotation

[hasty tide]

Some of yall are why shampoo bottles say do not consume

[gusty cloak]

this isnt SL mage opener's haha

[smoky vale]

banezi can you time me out for 1 day

[arctic sinew]

u guys are thinking a whole lot just to get gapped by a 20 iq drooling fdk @600 ilvl

Sadge

[spice wind]

😂

[inner shadow]

or maybe

[smoky vale]

@young swan time me out please

[oblique trail]

I can give you a whole week

[gusty cloak]

ret's just got buffed too

[smoky vale]

do it

i need a break

[inner shadow]

lets just say, we play the game for fun, but the techniclities of this game, sometimes overwhelm us

[opal zenith]

Man. Bloodbath hitting like a truck on MT

[inner shadow]

as every fucking thing matters, and i already got much on my mind from irl work etc.

[oblique trail]

Mate Ptheve even posted the picture that very simply shows the opener

[inner shadow]

i did not see that one

my bad

[dire badge]

when I’ve got budget reports due but I have to post in skyhold

[jovial coral]

I mean the best thing about this channel is messin with bonaz

right maid

[oblique trail]

But just do w/e I posted

[coarse moon]

do the mountain thane buffs also buff prot warrior builds?

[oblique trail]

And you're 99% there and I'm willing to stay by that without fact checking anything

[dire badge]

erga said yes

[oblique trail]

here

Can even move OF over to where the CB is in what I posted and it'll be fine/maybe better

[jovial coral]

I dont seem to have this yada spell on my bar...

[inner shadow]

kekw

[oblique trail]

I'm gonna put you through a wall Rhozo

[hasty tide]

Pretty similar

[inner shadow]

huh i cant type k inky

i said sounds k inky

[spice wind]

But are you guys having any fun though? That’s all that matters

[hasty tide]

Just prio thunder blast procs and don't waste them

[dire badge]

There is no fun in wow

[warm crag]

i would her react this

[dire badge]

Only nerf and logs

[warm crag]

can you her react this, let me her react, and then remove the her react?

[outer umbra]

tbf we’re warriors we can’t read

I had one of my raid team healers type this up

[grand condor]

#updates-midnight message I feel like slayer is still the play for Ulgrax, Rashanan (lol logs) and Broodtwister, no?

[wintry snow]

im not even spected in to rava... should I be...

[opaque solstice]

is it ok to go bladestorm instead of rava with thane?

[jovial coral]

Nah

[summer crater]

Ravager doesn't benefit from the cooldowns?

[lean heart]

yeh you still want the burst

[short cobalt]

sorry for nub qqquestions what5 CB?

[oblique trail]

Yes but it's all dynamic

[short cobalt]

ccrushing blow nvm

lol

[summer crater]

Ah ok

I'm so used to old wow cooldowns where only spells after got the buff

[thick fossil]

The hero talents, yes. The specific Fury stuff, obviously not.

[wind sentinel]

yesss embrace stormthane.

er mountainthane whatever

[golden hare]

this hasn't been the case for like a bajillion years for most specs

[brittle snow]

Mountain thane fury wars be super tanky

[summer crater]

Yeah I stopped playing on any competitive type of level in BC

[jovial coral]

Source?

[inner shadow]

Charge -> Rava -> Reck + Avatar + Roar -> TB -> Ramp -> CB -> TB -> OF -> Yada
vs
reck - charge - thunderclap - ravager - rampage - avatar- tb - roar - cb - rampage - tb - of
any case or way, we get diffed by a fdk with a dragon pokemon

[wise canyon]

is nexus princess better for arms, or fury, or does it hardly matter

[modern elm]

Rashanan parses dont count adds. Ulgrax, its just burst, so slayer wins, nothing beats the OF-Roar-Bladestorm/RTS burst potential for a sec of adds that lasts 10 seconds

[brittle snow]

Personally i like Bladestorm more then Ravager

[short cobalt]

yeah like this one had good result on dummy

[dry hawk]

Why ravager, when bladestorm prevents movement impairing

[inner shadow]

yeah but u cant use bt on thane so theres that

[inner shadow]

more dps ig

[modern elm]

ravager doest stop you from capping Tblast staacks

[wind sentinel]

ravager gets you more Tstorm procs

[modern elm]

bladestorm can

[wind sentinel]

you cant cast it while spinning

[random bramble]

MT is nuts

[dry hawk]

So get stunned instead

[inner shadow]

or do mechanics properly

[restive pewter]

is there a thane rotation guide

or like opener

[summer crater]

I love that MT is becoming the dungeon spec

[brittle snow]

Oh yea i very much prefer it over Slayer

[modern elm]

if your holding bladestorm for stun, and stun only well o7 your +#keys m8

[wind sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-creepy-smile-yes-excited-nodding-gif-8303310

[random bramble]

yeah just tried it in this key. it actually goes so crazy

[wind sentinel]

everyone embracing mountainthane lately

[brittle snow]

Now they just need to make it better in raids

and i'll be happy lol

[summer crater]

MT also just looks way cooler than slayer

[modern elm]

now you can pot or do something before dying in your storm, dodge a stun and live brother

[thick fossil]

Why could you not do that before?

[dry hawk]

I guess dstance and er aren't avail in bs

[modern elm]

iuno, he said he wants to take bladestorm to not get stunned?

[dry hawk]

Bs prevents the movement impairing effects

[queen linden]

Idk how I feel about it. I miss seeing high burst numbers, but the sustain is much better.

[dry hawk]

But ig so does shockwave

[queen linden]

At the bottom lol

[keen kindle]

Ravager is right below TC

[dry hawk]

Yeah saw that as I posted it

[wind sentinel]

ravager is just a means to the end of more tblasts

[queen linden]

Tank was pulling slow, kept holding it for big pulls. Probably could have used it 2 more times.

[low folio]

does impending victory work on devour

the m+ affix

[queen linden]

Yes

[hasty tide]

How much healing is required to remove the affix?

[south kayak]

50% of HP I think

[dry hawk]

Shamans best friend, more healing to do

[inner shadow]

/cast [@position] [talent:7/3] Ravager; is this correct?

[restive pewter]

icyveins MT rotation/opener updated? or am i cooked

[fresh flume]

When are servers back up?

[inner shadow]

Charge -> Rava -> Reck + Avatar + Roar -> TB -> Ramp -> OF -> TB -> CB -> Yada

[restive pewter]

🤝 good looks

[inner shadow]

anyone have the cast ravager @ position macro plsssssss

[cedar depot]

/cast [@player] Ravager

or cursor w/e you want

[rich rock]

What is TB and CB?

[fresh knoll]

Thunder last and crushing blow

*blast

[young swan]

feel like the burst numbers are the same

[rich rock]

Is this Tank talk? xd

[young swan]

hitting 7mil on big packs just like before

[inner shadow]

nope MT new aoe build

not so new

oh hi archiiii

[spiral orbit]

`anyone notice thunder blast isnt proccing on training dummies?

[inner shadow]

it is wdym

im right on em rn

[south kayak]

Yeah sometimes they don't

I relog

[spiral orbit]

yeah

[inner shadow]

/cast [@player] Ravager

its up there

[spiral orbit]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/thunder-blast-bug-fury-warrior/1947769

[shrewd shell]

Fellas, is this week's affix destroying warrior stonks? If it spawns as often as last week then we only have bitter immunity every other spawn ;_;

[spiral orbit]

it's this bug again

[edgy widget]

this looks more like ST, multitarget is a bit more complicated

[spiral orbit]

Trust me i know how statistics work. no proc on 40 plus casts is powerbal lterritory

there's a bug

[sleek wasp]

Thane is the goal now guys?

[inner shadow]

oh i see

[spiral orbit]

the avatar procs it but BT does not

[inner shadow]

my bad then

sorry

bt?

hmmm

odd

[unique wyvern]

is this also for single target opener?

[shrewd shell]

My thane is better than my best M+ slayer loadout by 250k rn

[edgy widget]

anecdotally I've heard that deleting your WTF will fix it, at least temporarily

This will nuke all your addon settings, so make sure to back them up

[sleek wasp]

What talents you running, can you share?

[inner shadow]

Charge -> Rava -> Reck + Avatar + Roar -> TB -> Ramp -> OF -> TB -> CB ->
does this opener seem good enough? or am i overlapping bleed or something

[shrewd shell]

Reck before charge for more rage

[fresh knoll]

Did anything change with slayer talents or rotational priority this reset?

[oblique trail]

It likely was yeah, didn't take the picture

Also corrected myself to just follow what I presumed to be the opener for AoE as well

[shrewd shell]

Basically whatever on wowhead for M+ thane compared to M+ slayer from same source

[inner shadow]

i have reck on a macro with avatar, should i make them separate?

[sleek wasp]

let me check it

[nimble ibex]

heroic trinket sims higher than mythic sacbrood

[restive pewter]

does this make us BT twice in a row as highest prio?

[tepid lily]

question: did they forget to nerf Slayer

[sick jungle]

i did absolutely everything wrong but I feel like I did alright in this 9 grim

[inner shadow]

and if you reck before charge, then you can get a rampage right as u hit target

[whole rose]

is it really thane time?

[inner shadow]

get the mythic

you can always get the hc easy

[edgy widget]

no, you'd rather spend the damage buff on Bloodbath than Bloodthirst, so you can largely ignore the reset

[shrewd shell]

really? even to trigger thunder blast?

(I shouldnt be surprised, my sim basically says the same thing...)

[restive pewter]

makes sense

[random raptor]

Is there an embellishment we should use with our 3rd craft that can be equipped with our nerubian embellishments?

[edgy widget]

you can only have 2 embellishments

which are weapon + writhing or double verse, either way you should already have both

(this is also the 4th spark)

[shrewd shell]

But fellas, back to the matter at hand. this week's M+ xalatah affix causes a dispellable debuff on all party members. I think bitter immunity might be a must take this week!!!

[cedar depot]

i beat a ret as thane

[random raptor]

Thanks Arch

[frail spire]

[inner shadow]

archi, question, Charge -> Rava -> Reck + Avatar + Roar -> TB -> Ramp -> OF -> TB -> CB -> Yada is the opener banezi came up with

but what about reck before charge into ravager - rampage, avatar, roar, tb of rampage tb/cb ?

[spare flame]

how is mountain thane ST dmg compared to slayer?

[wet wraith]

think you can just impending victory for the affix and you'll prob be fine

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[shrewd shell]

depends on if the healing is enough, still need to test it

[willow hazel]

yeah I have been trying to figure this out today while im stuck at work

[spare flame]

i mean after latest slayer nerfs

[inner shadow]

im at working typing to discord and testing on work's pc the rotation

[cedar depot]

I will sacrifice my parse to test thane on broodtwister

[past pivot]

yes, read it

[civic bobcat]

With these slayer fury nerfs, is it worth trying thane in raid/m+?

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069 lol

[edgy widget]

For multitarget, you should
CDs -> Blast -> Roar -> Rav -> Rampage -> Blast -> OF -> CB -> Ramp -> CB -> continue ST
There's really no need to throw Ravager early, you're just wasting potential Bloodbath uses (if you Ravager on the pull you haven't used Rampage yet, so you'll just be throwing out BT instead of BB)

[spare flame]

oh my bad, thanks

[inner shadow]

sorry whats blast?

[shrewd shell]

Well intuitively I still think slayer is way burstier because of bladestorm, you migh not want to use it on burst phases like brood

[restive pewter]

thunderclappa

[winter shoal]

[inner shadow]

ah yes

i forget the new thing

[tepid lily]

Spear > Roar??

[willow hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/tsugumomo-manga-series-anime-kukuri-power-gif-17580776

[tepid lily]

or spear only for ST

[winter shoal]

spear for ST

roar for aoe

[tepid lily]

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PogYou

[winter shoal]

roar for ST too if you want, it's like 1% behind I think

[torpid sand]

it's so weird to play with thane

[inner shadow]

oh so you pop ravager much after! you dont insta pop it before charge or during reck

speaking aoe here not ST

[edgy widget]

Yes, I added a note as to why above

[wet wraith]

rav generates blast stacks

don't wanna overcap

[restive pewter]

whats the ST prio looking like for thane?
TB>CB>BB>Ramp

[edgy widget]

using Ava -> Blast on the pull fixes that, it's more that you haven't had a chance to Rampage yet, so your Ravager would be casting BT instead of BB

[shrewd shell]

compared to pop cooldowns, Ramp, bladestorm zug zug of slayer it appears that thane requires more thoughtful GCD management to get the most out of damage

[forest owl]

any tips on mythic brood for getting cdr, im struggling to get reck back for some reason with AM and frenzied enrage

[wet wraith]

i know i was just saying that for the other guy

[edgy widget]

the rotation is much more cluttered, yes

[wet wraith]

but i saw your note

[edgy widget]

you can simplify it by dropping OF if you want and running the Zerker variant
the overall damage output is basically the same, though you won't have the insta enrage from OF/Ava or quite as much burst on the pull

[shrewd shell]

tbf outside of CDs its not so bad and as long as it gives me sustained damage so I can compete with lock and ret Im happy 😭

[hardy shuttle]

With frenzied you really shouldn't have issues. But make sure you pop reck 5 or 6 seconds before pull, then odyns and roar right when you get to the boss. Bladestorm should always come back if you're spending MFE stacks.

[forest owl]

jesus 5/6s? that might be the issue im pre using but only on pull

[hardy shuttle]

Yeah only on pull. With frenzied I've been getting everything back like 10-12 seconds early. Powerful is a lot tighter but still doable

[edgy widget]

don't reck on the pull at all tbh, it's not worth

[forest owl]

yeah taking that advice, my guild has no frost dks and im only warrior

[thorny heath]

in love with montain thane fury, so much better playstyle

[forest owl]

better to be safe

[edgy widget]

you might get it back up in time, but you also might not, and not having it during adds is a whole lot worse than getting it on the pull

[lucid crater]

So do we have to run Thane for keys and aoe bosses now?

[thorny heath]

pug friendly spec, lol.

[hardy shuttle]

Can also run powerful and DoI so the on pull one actually lasts a little into the pull

[shrewd shell]

I imagine thane doesnt work in raid because its not bursty enough

need bladestorm to pad

zugzug

[lucid crater]

Im so in love with the BS execute resets kinda salty about thane even being meaningful

[cedar depot]

reck > shadowmeld, typical opener

[inner shadow]

same istg

[edgy widget]

So for Broodtwister,

• OF, (up)Roar, BS on the pull
• save Reck/Ava for first set of adds
• cycle charge a little bit while moving to the next group of adds (save 1 charge to break webs, if you don't get them, then cycle charge with it)
• use Reck + OF -> TR -> Bladestorm for second set
• full CDs on the third
  alternate from there

I run Powerful and have no issue getting Reck back up in time for each set of adds. I also run Sudden Death so that I always have 3x ID and a little bit more rage for CDR.

If your raid has a ton of AoE and the adds die too quick for your second OF on big sets, or you have big issues getting Reck CDR, run Frenzied instead

[zealous stone]

first thane m+ any feedback :v

[radiant plank]

missing prepull reck tech here

[coarse moon]

What key level and can we see overall?

[hardy shuttle]

And literally never leap otherwise you're 100% getting the next web

[edgy widget]

I just covered that!

[lucid crater]

Too much rampage? Not sure how much you rampage w thane

[zealous stone]

grim batol 7

[radiant plank]

holy im blind

[torpid sand]

it feels so weird to use thane

the rotation is chaotic

[stray mirage]

so wad u took

[torpid sand]

it`s gonna take a while to get used to that

[coarse nest]

Fury opener be like
Reck+charge > rampage > Ava+ roar > Shadowmeld > Bladestorm

[inner shadow]

HAHAHAHAH

[edgy widget]

my opinion is that it's fine if you're just trying to parse, but not a great kill strat, since the amount you gain out of Reck on the pull is significantly smaller than what you lose by not having Reck on adds when it goes wrong (and you do sometimes get unlucky)

[forest owl]

nice info thanks, gonna see how it goes

[rotund ginkgo]

🙂

[chrome relic]

spec MT and make sure you thunder claps twice for good luck

[rotund ginkgo]

had aggro for 6 whole seconds

on ovinax rn

6

seconds

[opaque solstice]

anyone know what avg dmg i should be sitting at after a key at 600 ilvl?

[chrome relic]

real i too suffer from this

[rotund ginkgo]

they gave fdk timelessness

my hairs are thinning rn

[opaque solstice]

beeen hitting 700/750k overall and feels lacklustre

[idle ember]

With the thane build do you guys smash the procced thunder clap even if you have stacks remaining for the cleave

[edgy widget]

yes

[coarse moon]

Depends on many factors, like how big tank pulls

[opaque solstice]

mostly middle type steady pulls

[coarse nest]

It’s hard to give a good answer to this

[opaque solstice]

still feels low though

okay

[shrewd shell]

oh damn whats your mythic raidprogress?

[pulsar urchin]

does it hurt to use a macro that only uses ww if tclap/blast is on cd? I imagine theres not a time u press ww over tclap?

[chrome relic]

4 (it should have been 5 last night Sadge)/8

[cerulean berry]

@edgy widget may i stupidly ask where low keys end?

[lucid crater]

Its all about popping cds on mobs. Beig pads. Keep uptime.

[edgy widget]

depends on you and your groups really

[gilded flicker]

• Odyn's Fury and Titan's Torment can be dropped for ~2% more single target and ~2% less multitarget. It's also a little easier to play, but slightly less bursty and will not have the instant enrage.

did someone test this ?

[edgy widget]

no, literally nobody tested anything ever

[gilded flicker]

i have never played fury without odynbs fury

[edgy widget]

why would they

[cerulean berry]

i mean i am kinda thinking where its worthy to swap from slayer to thane

[stray mirage]

why tf would u

[gilded flicker]

Calma down bro haha

[inner shadow]

whemever u see thunderclap bling you SMASH it

[eternal lance]

[inner shadow]

imagine the foot on the icon is your finger

[inner shadow]

LITTLE JIMMY

GALVANIZED STEEL

[serene moat]

Slayer Charge does dispel ovinax webs, right?

[chilly fractal]

Yea

[gilded flicker]

Just asking to check how was the experience of dropping odynf sury.
I mean, if u drop Odyns fury, you'll get the Berserker Torment....but overall i cant see this as good as the odyns aoe (of course, i havent tested i'm at work now)

[hardy shuttle]

It literally says that it's a trade off of less aoe for a bit more ST and easier rotation

[lilac basin]

less buttons in my skill bar is a dps increase

[hardy shuttle]

[edgy widget]

when stuff stops dying during Bladestorm

[hasty tide]

Kekw

[random raptor]

Should we be using Thane > Slayer in raid on any bosses at all @edgy widget

[spare flame]

did yall slam thunder clap keybind where whirlwind was or am i supposed to have both binded as mountain thane?

[edgy widget]

what's it say in #updates-midnight?

[bronze smelt]

thats waht im doing

[frail spire]

i took WW off

[random raptor]

Didn't see that post, sorry mate

[slate sun]

Can i ask what this opener is used for? If i sim myself at 5T and even upwards to 10, it still uses rampage before BS.

[edgy widget]

think of it this way

• Titan's Torment = more instant burst
• Berserker's Torment = longer cd window

[edgy widget]

why are you using Onslaught at all?

[hasty tide]

Was this just an excuse to use my phones pen? Maybe

[slate sun]

Sorry not onslaught

Rampage

Get the names mixed up

[edgy widget]

that's your answer!

[covert void]

we naturally overcap rage a fair bit on the opener right? like, or am i doing it wrong

[gilded flicker]

Yeah, i'll test that.. Thanks
Question, do you think that i should remove the macro that uses Avatar + Reckl? and use one after the other?

[north edge]

14% increased sustained cleave?

fury warrior S tier?

for keys?

[hasty tide]

We have a priority list of moves, sometimes you overcap on rage and sometimes you don't

[edgy widget]

if you're going for full AoE burst (which this is), your better off getting Bladestorm out asap, and following OF asap before targets die and to get them back off cooldown sooner

[edgy widget]

macro is fine as long as you use Titanic Rage or don't use Titan's Torment

[slate sun]

Ah, cause i simmed at 10Targets 20 seconds and it still used rampage beforehand

Probably just me then

[gilded pawn]

i dont think the APL is optimized for 10t 20 seconds sims