#fury
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deserved
-9% on those BMs soon
nice job tho friend!
reclear will be sussy
that’s a big number
Shammie still gonna blast though
he is so getting one shot when he messes up cds 😄
there are always people like this getting invited by RL of a "1 MISTAKE = KICK" groups
got into one just yesterday and they had a 570 lock at HC kyveza

the mythic pug i did today the leader wanted mythic experience players when hes only cleared 4 hc bosses
dude, that's just classic
nerf everyone but warrior plz
Real
Lmao what kinda PC do u have
Honestly don’t nerf enhance they deserve a high spot bc it’s harder to play optimally
Is it?
oh, it's laptop?
I don’t think so
saw a video on that, didnt watch it but it suggested you could fix it with some settings
me when rotation is stormstrike x 10
Played like this in DF too
I think it's a buy new cpu angle
yes it is very challenging I do good damage because I am an incredibly high iq individual
i would just look it up on yt and see if it helps

to be honest it's 50-60 during every fight just when 500 nameplates get mass gripped into 1 spot and I bladestorm I drop to 10
Enha isn’t hard to play, it just has a few priorities
ye 
im gonna build a 7800x3d 4080s
soon
cuz f a laptop
The video I saw was just someone talking about models in weakauras completely killing frames even with 5800x3d/7800x3d, haven’t done any research or know if deleting said models would brick the wa’s majority of players use, but its good we know where the major issue is coming from now
maybe i buy a 9800x3d when they come out
barely any weakauras use 3d models
was standing outside the building where the renown dude in dorn is, 4k res 210+ fps
I checked all my weakauras yesterday and 0 of them had models
damn
i def need to build a pc..
rough
yeah common one i saw is an old dragonriding ui
was it luxthos that used models in a lot of his WAs?
this made me laugh, i suppose we have it better than others during egg breaks
that rare mob notif isnt doing your fps any big favors
ye
people say wait a year every year
I use luxthos weakaura packs
and no models in mine
normal, let people test things properly
or maybe im a moron?
about to upgrade pcs currently on an r5 3600, surely i see fps improvement going to a 7800x3d next month
I saw massive fps improvemnt on ovinax when I swapped away from luxthos
oh..
whats that?
wa pack
JA STORMSTRIKE
is this a keystone mount or the legion rip off
just write your own wa's luxthos and afenar and all the other "all in one" packs are bad and cluttered with to much shit anyways
theres a script to check for WAs with models
I heavily modify mine, removing 'bloat' and adding things i wanna track
revves wa's goated
It's the flowly shit in your rage bar
For example
luxthos has made them really easy to edit
legion 750k mount
the actual one not rip off tf
Revvez was are ait
/run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end
Modified em and now turbo happy
yeah luxthos doest have that
I would try AUI but not a fan of his wa packs being dependant on elvui to work
bros still using the 2016s
this is the script to check for WAs with models enabled
let it go man
thank u critcake ur the goat
You can make em work with suf iirc
But that's defeats the point of aui
yeah
Naowhs packs wa's work without elfui
but not a fan
of them
i use AUI WAs with suf
i like hijack the most, it might not be the most "optimal" WA pack, but look how clean this shit look
Tracking rampage
Hijan has this very unhinged enrage Rampage icon thing
:kino
I rlly hate that
also bars for leap + charge
i found a replacement WA that replicates the elvui position WA for SUF
wild
Intrested
pvp purposes
Just icon?
what pvp purpose
Dumb question, how do you get revvez's weak auras?
yeah
just icon
Top bar charge
hats he new
!WA:2!TI1tVTXXvCtRaueHM4)bl0gNdlyqnOsOjQCCstfQoqsrzthkr6Luw(pWLA2DhYDQwU7Iz3LsYbjhekAdqA7bDON6jIESNi6TEZFcgiu0pa(JG)e03BMLl3L)X1TOccGZoV38M38(ZV3BMC7C9bx366wF)T5ErHomxkV5(DAuFVA6MEoE8hUc8h)0M96fqdZnM4AA7XB5XCdnQwBVo1091Syb(oKt7qpjSBpp(asyx)UHSb04VY5FvZOGqVbih77BrcP60Hu3WxtIGzjHmZdywH2vkdFYjMHmp3GVupiKWdx1OhZLfyVAf4NWBBOe0jx531lYvYOgjIt6sDhUzDGHcRVQg8NJNjXrZm8eTT0cOo9kXP9bElr4MvLcOQNBiOmsMz90C9cLChAtDLZH)Pw(38Tjt82KeWjWVKvQRL830AIdjiOcHhRoBEFAy14P2JmGwqkztp3ES(LmtrOfjmKYDtFOcOaFwe(PVJIlH)QltUPeUpHdUfD5ree(buYrLbZBqjyhuZwyI6TEABxM1LXi6ZHifLcXSkQL30lYXsUgWVAPDq5nZxulRmX)40WiU7YmNjNPwz13mQXDUJMfThjYjul0d1JbWc06dr5(4eOkeAZ9owJY5EC8KytjouE6ZL0622g15TzbedhAH1ZE(wMQSitxAx30JAYwTibLzVEhSN9ioogeZJInSlEhNXaN2iNyOZy1Hi7s(l3uNWZYmglC(KvrDgUdhdk9cMKUgh7MIsc3dyUsWIzyDY0tv6eacyvB20TnnuYqHmwEuIwkpRLgefu3TQ3adsydpZJS8o2Dw397IPBACQcSubnus9XSU9ywMBtswAvofWlLMHc5L)a(181CgUFDWSWWticbX9CGy3YYvbmaeLMAG12uZiUsaDOdaG6qA(SXct1oy)MrnFlNohApq(gEHakyrTJrJBrihI13ognmtmZMY8aZWu2)zsMt5wr((8IlpMAQWMvAzcpYi4Fv2WhcKTKzc40NDfPDvhhlIeUNZHP2(t2Lzz5qHDhToAFM2pV0xO9PQLNH9JJvYmXTjYcx7wjc7olukl0ZO8EBw1Hs4LDCK1PdszYJPdjdssfYxPzNon3TrTD6KnQjZ8P90lswTzVKwitaW6llOXxMKptAFcp9qGyG(gf1(eKtlVfyJ9r4hVGNZEXci2dfjWq37)C)sYpW6Dz5e8Nk2MZjk1bK0YTGzzlXq6xYh)TySvPOMp0PaKRXgsBPi4x6evtu4W4(PYk20E0jJZGdpTtLs2EEhbqwzob4CbYSDe7RWSzGsSafii4tNapciCZcqIB6unRA3oqRC8s7rpUdZ8ikVWD)Vy1P01T0c5r0fwDjl(msD157VBM6WP7hWNAwF7IADN8pGgIbbakrBGeJ4WEjbfwD3EEfMB2jOikGDTcQvVLw(huRCJA65LqdYTaNDJ79l(81XUluTlGejr9haMzPW0OdHtlFzhIzBvZysH5unkIeWSKVj)beoNjb0Z3I4qSyU4WhebTCkNu3RFKSEqloJgeIJ2gkxyR91Uywy(IsrNVTnzarU0Dj9L8dcg2WJKt55k)DBEeZsjHbGgpztYxtEEY)TZQLtrQH4H9HEVLNRc5XRca8hBtLz0f1CX0nMRgZNW4bfMEmxpDoowqwj6TKRyZ(brgfYRHAv(13mY3hI(wAfznWwUP6ghfWvV(ctMwIFrNcPJ1IHKcYeDvdoPY6TYAgYrpFJxKIH93b5qrfDW76zfbrO5rJIsEWbaJ9NVF7)JT88wqexkA47gs4YrbJRK6nKYNB9LkbbmaH8ZbPQ4))JqQX1GaBNu0jfLY)UHAUehDN27xaAsUnKTsdkQjVhArTsLk9)WnhJ9aC6WTN0d5wzAPmPRvRP0x0DkYaXNHFmOsEdR0BYm3abK3cdFPob0uLmYiZLlVf2UCIbDMBBFULxx1vYp8SqoRFFkp4dVnpE43FTxhfq7sCoMCAaMayR(2iWJBazj0dFnKGlDbTGIwSt0B3QwJgJSOgr9615uiD)b1A0AN9Buje(qC1e2Bd0zNmUB1YT70TDNY6DgRuJUiJJdqVBK8LgeV)iWLzjBuoGh5kxEf8Hh0rqIGvpZcosi1RVHs2b(3RvJYpTMEx57BuFV739GM6nG6lXtdkz16LBu)zL7uV5EDR(GY7D)ABxjcSigk0pDtBQ5rI3xCv)pnPujgJnbQkt4OKayDpdkY44u3c0j0mHY7WZbyyLXCv)RHpnYqAh13O97VDj)BTWxFrnqhFegR3WqKCxIZJbNdOi)Wzh7XToGt8p7G4bv6br1JQDceveeaoRrGDw10qWhTM4wxaFI3QeV8SRvfhpI1WkyvY10ha3VMT65O(IMwUTriuv0nCnXMRwja6lunaQEId0LW74i(l9CPWr9YNHBn2a5pfIkI4Mud2aFpE4fb2e4gypr1O0kJu5Hymrfm)7CmSx9mukuHlaxk04vtFPJ(H)zXT0zU(rquxaDBAGPTUSb1vU7r0t9VXcEKLky4G)AYQyA4JRG00IjYJFkb)R9Zc0E1)qRv8Zja8bzqU9dTV55stb(aA2O5OHCwBqpepu812IgRiE0Lf76)XVThKr00)JApH(CkHO9nfDSf7B3tCld3Obguok5hDVRi29SjxKq08IDzUSbrd0uF3O1kBuAJ)f6sJnoplTs1CKeZqUrOgcBaSn7EEcIpSFt5V1kWvre7QlB2v08vQlCQjDe4QNOHZTIlY0nSO5BIxzhV5xmC8epr8OCID5XTmlAE2t0IhMi0PSjEpGHNohdJTzwuDkeJdXLW0JqpCBzqwo4Opg8svHRnt8dOhcw(BQkYRmhtUBDWzMXSydruYxp6Ch2awOms0fcIpxoj(Po0Tg5uXUJtvexS1n9)KL)aPqcNjdtkxzKzck1QXX(pvDG(4l5)zlxcwNcNkMz3qBi312ZX6u(Vbqcz9oTcE7TrHEMdv59)KC)E78ml)Bm5SPn9HdglD3TdbKqYkVrDhg1tgaNlJ2v1RvBV7c9hoENd27OJPr)YVA7MgQww2r49Shl(1661V)d6iEXfT3FhSXhfqOWOroXHIiX7Ld4b(nHEiH3hCwgRdK)UPK9Vrg6t46VFffBoxc577eVy0KTbPozp(ljszTkS(hW6huBGVnbHHuHBcJUk5CS4P)1pqSNqx8y)BOsPZK3jmYnoLn)YJvEKQYxepxUCRmck)qTKzy)2F8yMRYPag11gddnP1Kvso8CcKkkN)lfFWoVIscqJSeA4hbHVoxmP4JSUfxHneCgYhA5fovgqyU7i(bj3I)G4pk(tWVF4SZC9a9VO0xv6ExF4)8j)7
WOAH
what it do
dont do it, all my golds gone

Makes suf work with aui
idk what that means chief if i knew how to do WAs I wouldnt download full packages
whats suf
shadowed unit frames
why did my character just walk to the mailbox and mail all of my gold to "bankcake"?
you know how AUI's elvui player/target frames move according to how wide the primary WA bar gets, that positioner WA only works with elvui
but the string i sent there makes it work with suf
ic
Hi all, I haven’t been playing warrior for long but I am enjoying it so far. Any recommendations for good guides and rotations for beginners?
wait is this why sometimes shits on cd even when WA shows its up?
Are you using SUF for the Unit Frames but the rest still is Elv? or is the rest of your UI also a mix of addons for Actionbars/Map etc? 🤔
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i've recently gotten rid of elvui, but basically still looks the same as what i had with elvui
fps is defimitely better, but i didnt try elvui with just elvui raidframes disabled - maybe that also would have done the trick idk
what are people's reasons for ditching elvui, i only did it because of frame rate and their stubborness with curseforge
but the UI is overally vastly superior to other mod packages
just framerates
Performance is sussy at times
framerate is definitely the most prevalent issue currently
feel like it's just this raid, it's been particularly bad
so people are looking for ways to gain frames
Brood moment innit
brood and tindral holy
Are raid frames in elvui the major issue?
in fury?
before having to rebuild I'll probably try out disabling/replacing the Unit/Raidframes for now..
Rebuilding everything to match AUI seems like a lot :<
slam definitely isn’t a powerful button but it’s your bis for downtime in st :D
But yes, I defaulted to whirlwind in st had to swap skill placement around in st build because i would just press ww regardless of talents
usually not, but elvui costs some fps, so it's just one way to improve fps
same
oh but actually i did hear that raid frame addons work on top of blizzui raid frames
as in, if you use addons for raid frames, your game is processing raid frames 2x
might be capping
ye that has to be disabled on heavy fights
I sometimes wish there was a way to size the blizz frames like the elv ones instead of the scrollbars and hoping it ends up the right size :')
(and position frames the same way, too)
Makes sense, ill do some testing in raid this week
I like to min/max frames lol
these are my blizzui frames now
I have majority of elvui disabled
not enough dooming in chat
Dont trigger us
lol
Maybe higher fps will actually be a fury buff
Is thane worked out to be better then?
It could be in some niche situations, generally i’m going to say no but the variety is nice
for bodark ^
no clue about raid
Think for m+ it might be better, but that's about it
That's all that matters, fuck the raid 🙂
Should be capping. The blizzard ones shouldn’t be registered for events if they aren’t in use. An addon can clear their event registration if they want to too
Does anyone just play bloodtwister without plater? Or did you try setting the parasites to player low perf units?
I just made parasites way small
occaisionally still need to be able to see then when there's a few stragglers or some range got infested somehow
Yeah I think the plater performance unit setting just makes them not update auras/hp as much
10
yeah
it took me 4 minutes to kill him once on my mage
zz
1st one was 7 minutes long though
Walk out during cast and charge with the slayer talent. Or charge egg
Huh can you? Its a magic debuff
Can also bladestorm it
Lots if ways
This is actually true with alot of BlizzUI settings , When you are disabling / hiding them they are still actually being loaded into your games adressables and there is no way to actually stop this happening unless you could remove the files from the games source and then still actually run the game (You do gain the benifits of the gpu not actually having to calculate the draw for things that arent actually dispalying but the resorces are still being used to actually load the data into your game)
Is there any slayer talents change after the upcoming update ?
the actual draw calls are minimal anyway
yeah
ill do that
it has to be one of them though cuz i think BI does remove it
(and lets be real, in 99.9% of cases no one is lagging due to GPU during raid fights lmao)
just cause the main thread fucking chokes
let me just build wow from source and run a profiler frfr
I have 2 Pcs with the exact same CPU gpu combo and get wildy different fps in situations with the exact same ui setup
game is just wilding out
WoW 2
i think people gotta start actually reinstalling their fuckin game and temp data every prepatch
Trust me you dont want this
and stop using 14yr old UI profiles
Id say they would probably need 6 years minimum to rebuild the entire game in a different engine
WoW 3
not to mention the admin issues of finding people to do this and taking them away from the current game
trust me when i say moving your game to another engine
is not a fun time
🤣
dont think they ever will, they seem to be adamant on just upgrading the current engine which seems to work, with its issues
the current engine probably resembles the classic wow engine in very few parts 🤷♂️
a lot of shit is legacy stuff due to APIs having to function with legacy code
but the actual underlying stuff was for sure iterated upon
you should watch some of the blizzcon deep dives they show some of the worldbuilding tools and such
its very scuffed
take healer brann and let poison go through, brann will (sometimes) dispell it, you cant rely on him for kicks
just kick the heal and let poison through
they for sure have a bunch of tools that where written by guys like 10 years ago and then they cant touch them because no one understands how it works
so they just build ontop of it
and then you have a bunch of absolutely cursed tools that break if you name something the wrong way lmao
yea i mean
wouldnt suprise me either haha
i forget how old i am
i am still 20 leave me alone

one thing wow does excellently though is amount of data it uses
oh i mean the whole game is honestly a massive feat of engineering tbh
at this point theyd probably have an easier time rebuilding the game in a new engine than porting the current game to a new engine
thats kinda what "porting" it entails yes
There is no
porting to another engine
you have to rebuild everything
even like the assets they use would not just work in another engine
and thats 2d assets , 3d assets
when did they update the engine, DF ? or just now for tww, performance is bad
^
perf for me has been similar to DF so far
We still in 2004 engine
i got off my mount on one of the side boats in dawnbreaker before first boss and fell through it
perf in raid has certainly been more ass for me this xpac
shit perf in Dornogal but then it was in Valdrakken too
twice in a row
but i just turned off my elv frames and use RFS on top of regular frames now
and its fine 👍
Ive done like 7 dawnbreakers and fell into the ship 6/7 times
I wish I could compare but I got a new pc with tww
Elv is terrible for performance. i quit using it in DF
i figured out if i dismount using mount keybind i fall through the ship and if i dismount with a spell i dont
hmm
noob !!!!
lmfaoooo
AHAHAHA
could NOT be me
bruh
(ive found that actually confirming youve landed for like a full second avoids this)
@mossy fox you seem to have some WoW files in your Logs folder
Normal play performance: good
Loading screens: long, freezes and sometimes DCs since around launch
🏴☠️
holy shit 15 TB lool
Arr
what games
Ssd ??
im not paying any fucking streaming services to service me 6mbps 1080p footage
imagine having space
zfs pool
guess we know where Critcake keeps his pron stash
XD
2 250 is criminal
"no one will look here, surely"
so you jsut mass copy to your folder seasons of a show at a time?
my main pc is legit running on a 1tb ssd and 2x500gb ssd in raid0
tbh mmos are just cpu intensive
well performance wasnt even close to this bad couple years ago
but my 2nd pc has another 1.5tb of SSD and 16tb of usable hdd space
its a Lenovo Y520 Laptop i use at work and where i play WoW when we dont have any projects so it just has Windows and WoW

just old engine games with a lot going on in general
poe is the same
oh yeah i mean work on WoW started in what, 1999?
ancient ass game
my current poe build simply cannot run on my cpu, i need to use nvidia cloud gaming thing
i think we should organize a lethal shift at lidl
aintnoway it was 99
🤓
The main issue is that the engine prioritises single core performance
lets google it
2004
i think it is multithreaded
its 2004
well no warcraft was released in 2004
they started offloading shit in BFA
game launched in 2004
but there was development time
Dou need a good single-core performing cpu for wow
but its still heavily throttled on the main thread
yea
yes
AHHA
It is alot better now
Thankfully I got my 7800x3d in time for tww
i accidentally started LC from my other PC over SMB once
it was
quite laggy
do not run games over SMB fellas
people in 1999 were cooking
noob
well what kind of cpu you expect is required to run the game atleast 60fps all the time and without frame drops like we currently see in raid.
The weird thing is tho is that if you profile the same cpu gpu configs across like 10 wow players with the exact same UI setup
stop having a shit overloaded UI
i also have the best video card for WoW
you are gunna get prettry different results
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No cpu can handle wow at 60fps at all times with weakauras and addons running
Best test is to just go inside the raid in 30 man and disable every addon you have
thats not true
ofc u can
Id say im running at 60 and above at like 95% of the time
id love to see warcraft get FSR/DLSS/XESS
ive heard there's issues with frame generation re: MMOs
none of those would help the fps at all
wonder how much fps i'd gain on add spawns on broodtwister without plater
it wouldnt
that too
Gl running at 60 on pull at queen with 30 people
probably a fair bit more
With not lowest graphics and barely any wa‘s or addons
tbf the lag on the start of queen
Half my guild gained like 10 xD disabling plater
u sometimes just get a shit instance server
and the instance server chokes on loading fight scripts
i have a 4090 mind
very king
4090 doesnt really do anything on wow
Queen 30-man heroic in week 1 was unplayable
yea boss pull lag is kinda usually server related vs your personal hardware
my 1050 and my CPU are in a love-hate relationship when i play WoW but i still get around 40-50 fps , when playing on it
i turned off nameplates before treant spawn on tindral
a 4090 is probably using like 10% max on wow if you are playing 1080p lol
lag spike -> smooth gameplay
my poor old 1080ti is getting used on this 3440x1440 display atleast in wow lmao
My 4080 Super never runs over 45 c with barely any load
1080 TI's were so good tho
1080ti is goated
Since I got it turned to quiet mode
im still rocking it in one of my systems
i used a TI until i got my 3080
I used a 2080 Super before my 4080, and that somewhat struggled on max graphics 1440p
i went 1060 3gb -> 3070ti
but yea sadly for wow , GPU is pretty poorly utalized
i'm not really sure how much of warcraft is single-core utilized since it does support multi-core
better since bfa as anda said
yeah that makes sense
It supports but barely uses it
but its still primarially using single core for most things
Single core power is still king
id loveeee to get an X3D chip to replace this intel chip i have
but thats a bit misleading
which i probably will when the 9800s drop tbh
you arent going to get insane performance out of a super old single core thats juiced up
i had better performance in bfa than i do now and with worse setup.
Yeah BFA was quite a upscale in performance for alot of people
Have you fiddled around with the settings or just using default?
i was lucky to get 80-90 FPS in valdrakken on good days with my 13900K tbh
But they removed true fullscreen which is annoying
i'm sure a big % of players that talk about having bad performance probably also haven't cleaned their WAs since BFA
Main city performance is a pretty bad metric though
also lots of confliciting variables
Exclusive fullscreen doesn't exist for any dx12 game
Sadge
my mortal enemy
I had like 25 with a 9900k
windows 11 also changes the flip model so any fullscreen problems are irrelevant assuming you're okay with using W11
i think wrath classic was running good aswell but since cata classic came out i had really bad performance in that.
punishing ass zone. the capital in TWW's not much better tbh
dx12 + the ancient windows bug that occours if you have muitiple screens running different refresh rates
sick combo
Cant compare, I built a new pc before tww launch. 0 issues with 7800x3d and 4080 super
Ue5 and dx12 have been the core of 99% of performance issues for years now
i do hate UE5
if it can make development time better for companies, i guess i dont mind it but
well I think the issue is actually more of a case that each year there are more and more hardware combos people are running
Every single ue5 game looks the same and always have performance issues
So its alot harder to identify potential performance issues now
they've been trying to work on that apparently
than it was in the past
i found out recently that Models in WAs are a big performance hit
Nah ue3 and 4 also had stutter and other performance problems, it just continued with 5
that video was super interesting
nah they do. unreal engine is a stutterfest
traversal stutters
The difference is now every single studio wants to use ue5 without learning how to use it
yeah. if you know how to work with it, you can manage to make titles that won't run like total ass
but mostly you just get another jedi survivor
Actually though one of the main drivers for studios wanting to use UE5
is that the talent pool for people that are qualifed to use unreal is the biggest
Ye
The way augment fucked up any hope of ever having balance is funny
Good chats tho peeps , time for me to do some actual work kekw
too many specs in the game hard to balance i guess
i have reccently migrated onto warrior so you will be seeing more of my nose in here
BFA was relatively ok
There was still a meta but other specs could actually play at least
Wish more studios developed their own proprietary engines but it's just way too expensive
BFA was dogshit
i enjoyed BFA a lot tbh
Fury first season was good rest terrible
and its been hell on earth lmao
What is everyone's plan when this upcoming weekly patch notes go through? does anyone plan going MT instead of slayer?
zekvir casting his p2 frontal when hes summoning the add across the room so the frontal is the size of the amazon river
😍
It was generally a lot better than later expansions for mythic+ balance
for as much flak as bethesda gets, at least they're still trucking along with creation engine
starfield was. uh. something. a game. one that certainly does exist
but
That's one of their main issues
idk i prefer it to unreal
slayer damage profile is still better for m+ in keys , Thane is alot closer now and could be good in some settings but personally gunna be sticking with slayer
id rather them do their propriety thing rather then go the way of every other company
Besides the corruption vendor i really hated that expansion
Vision grinding Aware
vision grinding sucked
I was trying zekvir ?? yesterday and pushed 4 times to p2... guess why I died 3 times (one time was figuring out if the swirlies hurt... hint: they do)
With the latest changes I only see slayer being better in lower keys or when you're overgeared and just farming 10s with almost full mythic gear already
being forced to grind vision in order to do nzoth was trash
corruptions were fun tho
Sure but they could at least rebuild it
i think they put a lot of work into starfield
you never used to be able to load 25000 objects into a single area without it crashing or one of them killing you
i shoudl just go f myself
like just stepping on a tray in skyrim will launch you into the air
or a giant
making you an astronaut
Hot take, all of bethesda games are bad
just roll 100
it literally is the worst overlap on zekvir
add across the room+frontal
and if ur mid bladestorm gg
cant follow you there. i like skyrim. oblivion is fun. morrowind is good
made me rage quit today xD
7min fight kekw
430k dps btw
Is anyone else using queen's mandate for keys? ik that overall sacbrood is better, but until i get better that 593, i am really loving it at 619, doing 1.2-1.4 million in a 9 and it's around 6-7% overall. thoughts?
Based
I love the fact you can't really fuck it up like transmitter
less than 1 hour ago
im loving transmitter in keys tbh
The only way to "fuck it up" in dungeons is probably using it too early on mobs
honestly a lot easier since I'm rocking it with shard rn
prob best trinket to par with another on use trinket
DOES
ZEKVIR
HAVE A PULL
MECHANIC??
DO THE PORTALS PULL IF U TOUCH THEM?
FUCKING 17% AND I GOT PULLED THEN STUCK ON A WALL MID BLADESTORM ON HIS FRONTAL

i like your ui
whats the name of that thing
that shows you which spell is ready
it showed odyns fury and bladestorm
Does this scale up with buffs? i heard this trinket scales with certain class buffs
doom cooldown pulse
didnt even know its reflectable
it is?
can just stand in it?
u can do it with weakauras if u want
change the duration for however long u want to show it
btw, i saw a few weeks ago, that twilight flame in grim batol was made to not be spell reflectable, but I've still been able to spell reflect and ignore it completely.
yeah u can deflect it at the very least
You can't reflect it anymore but you can deflect now
Just stand in it and dps him, watch out for orbs
For a period it would reflect and chunk the boss
so you can't make it hit him, but you can make it not hit you?
deflect = neglects the ability
Yeah. That's the deflect
reflect = reflects it back at the caster
Gotcha
some spell reflects will deflect
Guessing it scaled too well to be reflectable, huh?
How’s the raid loot work if I kill heroic queen does it unlock all possible loot?
It would do like 10% of his health or smth I think
For vault
There are videos on youtube still of it
yes
entire raid
Ez
at least you don't have to get hit with it at least
Spymasters web on boomie tomorrow
Only Phase 2 fear @rotund ginkgo
what is everybody hoping for in vault?
Yeah, just run out p1
kk
who cares about vault, buffs inc...
It's an addon u can google
can I have your loot then?
its shit every week anyways so sure
that sucks
Hoping for a either myth tier piece or myth equivalent, or myth weapon, gotta pray to RNG jesus
Just in an AOTC guild, I like the casual pace, so no Myth track stuff yet.
The new fury changes are buffs or more like nerfs?
Thane buffs
What about the set buffs and the ignore pain nerf
read in updates tab
slayer is shifting AoE perf for some better ST from my understanding, but it's very minor
set buffs also
new fury changes are arms nerfs
no thats an addon
I wonder if we will be able to do more damage Mtn thing got a lot of gloves for our top damaging abilities
Thane buffs make me happy, only want 5 times more lightning effects
maybe for mass aoe, but multitarget is up a little, with ST not changing almost at all
not sure if it was fixed @rotund ginkgo but i just used two SR in p2 to hit him for a total of 59m dmg
and killed him
they could have fixed it
anyone know why i have no worldsoul memory quests up on my alt?
i see its supposed to be up in an kajet
Is that before or after the 11.0.5 buffs?
give it a try , its the fear in P2 though , p1 fear SR does nothing
yeah ik
na its clean, send
So just to be clear, there are changes coming this week but there are still more changes waiting in the wings that will be deployed with the 11.0.5 patch on the 22nd?
How it feel to be better than arms for a season guys?
Depends on the content
Fury almost always better in m+
Arms almost always better in st
have you guys tried thane in raid? i've tried in m+ and felt pretty good, nice numbers and awesome to use thunderclap as big aoe dmg plus the 3 target thunderbolt it's really useful
If you're just doing normal/heroic you can play thane. It's too far behind for mythic
before
rn they are set to still go out
I've finaly got Ara-kara, i had Transmitter and Sikran's Endless Arsenal. The strange thing, when i simm myself with Ara-kara and Transmitter, i do less dmg on the sim as with Transmitter ans Sikran's. What are your, toughts, which one to use in m+?
if your gear and trinket ilvls arent good thats pretty normal
idk what sikrans does tbf id just run treach ara everywhere
Hey, was trying Zekvir ?? and died to auto attacks lol. i'm 608 ilvl. Is this normal or i'm doing something wrong?
here is Sirkan's, the thing is it is 606 ilvl ara is 619 😄
are u picking up the healing potions bran drops?
he hurts but i dont think you should just be dying to them straight up
i did it at like 615 though
Brann is healer. What is potion brann?
make sure your taking off the big ass DOT off you
by charging or bladestorm or avatar
that is how he heals
he throws red potions on the floor and you need to walk over them
Lol, didn't know that. Maybe that's why brann wasn't healing me hahaha
yeah
is the difference in damage big arms vs fury in raid? in playing my warrior alt but dont know what spec to learn/focus on first.. it will be used for HC raids and some M+
Can't go wrong with fury for the vast majority of the fights and M+
Really ST fights where Arms is better
fury's cds and damge profile are really great for some bosses, and arms will do a bit better on single target, but you'll overall have a better time with the one you enjoy playing the most
And M+ you can do arms and be fine too tbf
for hc arms is better in 6 of the 8 fights
okey, thanks for the tips
Pick which one you like more for heroic
Agreed, hc is kinda w/e just play what you like the most.
Even mythic, unless you’re in a top end guild
reflect did no dam
its VERY doable its just cringe
i can send u the WA+elvui profile if u want?
Huge
Not sure
i had 2-3 attempts where i actually did 130% of his hp
he just healed once + i got him to 5%
so he technically shouldve died had i not missed it
kekw
Yeah my best run before actually getting the kill he got low n healed
wclog down?
I just wish cds reset on death felt sadge having to wait like a min before every pull
7s give hero track items, right?
7 for hero one end of dungeon
8 for vault 4/6 heroic pulls
9 for gilded crests and hero 2 end of dungeon
10 for myth 1 vault
my vault is already full with 10s, I just wanna farm GB for the ring
7s 🙂
I assume 7s or 8s is best for that
You use elvui hmm
Ywah if u dont mind. Do you want a twitch sub or some for that?
8 for vault, but if vault is full just 7 spam
Any tips? what talents did u use?
so where does RB fall in here when opportunist is active
you ramp into cb
so opportunist works with CB?
Yes
nah no need lol
sub if u like my stream xd
i just went anger manageemnt
w/ depths of insanity
thats it
what if i don't like it
:3
Hey, i can see that most people play night elf, is this purely for shadow meld or is there some other reason?
prob shadow meld
playing what u think looks cool > meta race
panda op
Shadowmeld
But that's also mostly a pve choice
You have Dwarf/DID, Gnome, Human, Void Elf, Orc
Thx!
grats
big
i'll just get mine from vault 
i'll live with my vet one forever
Celebrating uselss trinket 
If it comes myth track tomorrow
im glad i got transmitter from vault
I'm gonna rage
Got Veteran Warbound transmitter 
mythic+
I preferred it over the other
useless (really good on a hard prog fight)
Skarm is technically better for M+ of the two
this one passive can destack
i got champ from the black temple quest then hero this vault
Lucky
You're very likely to have stacks to make it give more Mastery than Mark
Whats a hard prog fight
silken?
got sikran neck week 1 too :3
Damn
broodkeeper
alright noted
horror
my rng kinda been good for vaults ngl
626 sikran neck > hero transmitter > 626 rash cape
I had no idea of the passive uptime and how much time it would take to stack it
Stop
:3
loot better
if i already cleared 25h icc this week can i not do 10 man or normal mode
shrimply just get mythic Sikran neck on first kill
You can't, raid locked
i c
They changed that later
just seems weird some raids you can do twice
To be locked to each difficulty instead of the whole raid
Real (it will go to like 5 people before me)
so i should be able to do normal mode then?
Still haven't killed any mythic boss but we might try the first 2 since we heard they're not that hard
Not for ICC
rip ty for help
In wrath you could do both 25 and 10 as separate lockouts, but 25n and 25h/10n and 10h shared lockouts
The first 4 arguably are quite easy if you have any semblance of hands
Idk about how they work now
Atleast clear up to sikran
The first 4 are like 20 pulls
We didn't even get curve yet 
finally started chasing cool transmogs :3
My guild is turbo ass bud don't underestimate us
I'd go as far as to wager that HC Ansurek is harder than first 4 Mythic
But I am prob out of touch saying this
At least we managed to get to phase 2 on hc
I Agree
i've heard people say that tbf
but a lot of people are dead
by that point
need to minimize deaths and we're good
easier said than done
yea
I thought the 3rd one was
1st one
By comparison it's not
nah p1 hardest
Deadly
Oh okay
you can just die off randomly
P1 has a lot of mechanical checks to it and damage going out
if you dont pay attention 247
The 3rd set of roots is what's been getting my group
the sudden death this mentions is the talent that lets you execute at any hp right
Yes
ok ty
I thought of this recently but ansurek is literally the perfect fury fight. Burst aoe that aligns with boss timers, BS during intermission to not get pulled and some other things
It's crazy
Is crushing blow supposed to be number 1 in M+ dungeon?
Generally yes
Yes
But its even better for WW
sucks when you get bad rng and dont have bs up for 2nd pull though
Shrug
I always had it for that
if it's REALLY bad yeah
lol
i've had it most of the time
its like 1/10 pulls or smth i dont
but naturally that 1/10 hits when im not ready for it to and end up dying lmao
like is it better to use all the charges of crushing blow or rampage because I see most people with crushing blow as 1 but my rampage is most damage and its nto even close usually XD
What about if you're rage capped
Read a guide and hit dummmies angle
after CB
rampage
ok so im doing it right
ye like opener ur gonna get giga rage so its just rampage cb repeat
Assign specific people to use their cds on the first of the double-set and others to use their cds on the second
thanks
instructions unclear titans grip now removed
Basically Rampge after CB when rage is 115+
ye
If you want pointers, follow what Critcake did in his HC Ansurek vid
1st roots you OF+BS, 2nd roots you ava+TR, 3rd set you OF+BS
Who is Critcake? Only heard of this new rising star FDK otp called Gripcake
Not a bad suggestion I didn't have issues cause of how my cds lined up at had something for all 3 as long as I held for a few seconds
pump all cds on pull
save OF + BS for webs after green slime jump ~1m into fight
1st reset of CDs, AVA+TR first roots > OF+BS second pair 15s after
thats what i noted for p1 after watching crit vid^ if ppl need
can time 1st set of webs cos ava/tr will be like 31-29s cd
It's more for the entire fight and how he used CDs, but sure that's basically it
This is what I found out after a few pulls
Idk he keeps calling me out for griefing his key using AM?
It's like a 0.5% damage optimization to add the rule of "BB unless you're already at 100+ rage and above 35% boss health", which really only ever comes up during reck+lust, where you'll ramp > CB > ramp > CB etc.
For most people in most circumstances, it's not worth worrying about compared to just building good habits of using both your CB and BB charges
AM thane? You are just ahead of the meta read for Fury
Am slayer is cursed
BS desyncs so much
I am miserable..
buff fury st
btw did BM go from first ST to last
With uproar, you should have roar and OF (and possibly BS) for every root set, but the third one is a double-set where you get roots and then get them again like 10s after. We had me and our other warrior blow up the first of the double-set, and then our WW blow up the second of the double-set bc it's right at 2:00 when their cds are back up
nah they're probably still ahead of fury Kappa
I mean probably lmao
idt you need to take uproar
you're not gonna really gonna get value from webs with it
Probably true
Unless you're struggling extremely bad with adds you wont take Uproar
The loss from ATTT is not worth it otherwise
I'd rather guarantee nobody dies to roots than get a small amount of boss dam though tbh
Hello, can someone help me find out the weak aura that make a sound alert with whirlwind stack ?
We have 2 fury warriors in raid, no one needs to do anything to the roots
can confirm they are based on their theorycrafter's video
iirc they are a bit below
the middle pack
now
^
where were you when bm was dead
their only niche was ST and that was ruined, guess bm is the new fury
In a happy place
its not just a small amt of boss dam
Any pet spec can die for all I care
I have 2 others but 1 is military so his schedule isn't consistent the other is like herding a cat to have him hold cds
it's like 1% innit, I haven't run the sims in a while
idk i dont sim talents
not gonna happen with fire since blizzard just buffed them 3 weeks in a row
like idiots
and now they're first
classic
me and my friends were counting the nr of weeks until fire was meta again
nerf DK when
With a side of arms nerf to kekw

I think we're still in a good spot in the raid even after we got butchered
but I don't have high expectations for next tier
Counting the days until patch .5 for AM thane
idk for this raid at least fury will never not be the best warrior spec on ansurek/ovinax/rashana
we're still p good in m+
playable not good




vs doing it as dev