#fury

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warm crag
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Wtf!!!!

eternal sundial
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That's okay right

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Gz again again

warm crag
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i mean considering this spec is about to get a nerf

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xd

tired brook
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deserved

mossy fox
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-9% on those BMs soon

tired brook
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nice job tho friend!

warm crag
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reclear will be sussy

tired brook
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that’s a big number

fading sky
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Shammie still gonna blast though

inner shadow
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hc

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my fps was on 10

old coral
barren coral
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there are always people like this getting invited by RL of a "1 MISTAKE = KICK" groups

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got into one just yesterday and they had a 570 lock at HC kyveza

inner shadow
pearl sequoia
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the mythic pug i did today the leader wanted mythic experience players when hes only cleared 4 hc bosses

old coral
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dude, that's just classic

south kayak
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Nerf enha

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And dk

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Arcane too

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Fire

inner shadow
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oh lord

pearl sequoia
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nerf everyone but warrior plz

south kayak
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Real

eternal sundial
inner shadow
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i9 11980hk 3080

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but its 2560x1440

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res

old coral
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tinker wiht settings

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I have 60fpds with 3070

fervent yoke
mossy fox
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laptop cpu isnt it

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where do you get that fps

old coral
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oh, it's laptop?

south kayak
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I don’t think so

chrome plover
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my fps drops to 10 during adds on ovinax sadge

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but im in bladestorm so it's ok

south kayak
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Let’s ask Chawie if it’s hard to play enha optimally

livid marsh
radiant plank
south kayak
radiant plank
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Played like this in DF too

chrome plover
radiant plank
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at somepoint

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and current storm build plays like this to

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just stormstrike

chrome plover
livid marsh
chrome plover
south kayak
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Enha isn’t hard to play, it just has a few priorities

inner shadow
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im gonna build a 7800x3d 4080s

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soon

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cuz f a laptop

mossy fox
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this is my 4070s 7800x3d SFF pc i built last week

inner shadow
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amd is goated

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with fps

tired brook
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The video I saw was just someone talking about models in weakauras completely killing frames even with 5800x3d/7800x3d, haven’t done any research or know if deleting said models would brick the wa’s majority of players use, but its good we know where the major issue is coming from now

inner shadow
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the extra cache

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is insanely goated

chrome plover
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maybe i buy a 9800x3d when they come out

inner shadow
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nah

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wait a year

chrome plover
mossy fox
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was standing outside the building where the renown dude in dorn is, 4k res 210+ fps

chrome plover
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I checked all my weakauras yesterday and 0 of them had models

inner shadow
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i def need to build a pc..

inner shadow
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running

mossy fox
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was it luxthos that used models in a lot of his WAs?

tired brook
radiant plank
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that rare mob notif isnt doing your fps any big favors

chrome plover
chrome plover
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and no models in mine

inner shadow
chrome plover
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or maybe im a moron?

tired brook
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about to upgrade pcs currently on an r5 3600, surely i see fps improvement going to a 7800x3d next month

radiant plank
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I saw massive fps improvemnt on ovinax when I swapped away from luxthos

radiant plank
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wa pack

chrome plover
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i checked all the weakauras and none had models

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or so i thought

eternal sundial
barren coral
livid marsh
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just write your own wa's luxthos and afenar and all the other "all in one" packs are bad and cluttered with to much shit anyways

mossy fox
chrome plover
eternal sundial
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For example

chrome plover
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luxthos has made them really easy to edit

inner shadow
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the actual one not rip off tf

eternal sundial
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Revvez was are ait

mossy fox
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/run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

eternal sundial
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Modified em and now turbo happy

chrome plover
radiant plank
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I would try AUI but not a fan of his wa packs being dependant on elvui to work

barren coral
mossy fox
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this is the script to check for WAs with models enabled

barren coral
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let it go man

chrome plover
eternal sundial
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But that's defeats the point of aui

radiant plank
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Naowhs packs wa's work without elfui

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but not a fan

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of them

eternal sundial
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But look shit

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Hate small Icons

mossy fox
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i use AUI WAs with suf

barren coral
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i like hijack the most, it might not be the most "optimal" WA pack, but look how clean this shit look

radiant plank
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Tracking rampage

eternal sundial
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Hijan has this very unhinged enrage Rampage icon thing

radiant plank
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:kino

eternal sundial
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I rlly hate that

radiant plank
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also bars for leap + charge

mossy fox
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i found a replacement WA that replicates the elvui position WA for SUF

radiant plank
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wild

barren coral
eternal sundial
radiant plank
regal glade
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Dumb question, how do you get revvez's weak auras?

barren coral
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yeah

radiant plank
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just icon

eternal sundial
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Or u cant track time spiral

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Xdd

radiant plank
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Top bar charge

barren coral
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i disable my buttons

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and look at WA only

inner shadow
radiant plank
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Icon WA

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tracks time spiral

eternal sundial
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Xd

mossy fox
# radiant plank Intrested

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chrome plover
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WOAH

mossy fox
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only works with AUI + suf

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apologies for wall of WA import text

warm crag
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what it do

pearl sequoia
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dont do it, all my golds gone

long prairie
radiant plank
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Makes suf work with aui

barren coral
warm crag
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whats suf

radiant plank
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shadowed unit frames

chrome plover
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why did my character just walk to the mailbox and mail all of my gold to "bankcake"?

mossy fox
# warm crag what it do

you know how AUI's elvui player/target frames move according to how wide the primary WA bar gets, that positioner WA only works with elvui

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but the string i sent there makes it work with suf

warm crag
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ic

frank basin
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Hi all, I haven’t been playing warrior for long but I am enjoying it so far. Any recommendations for good guides and rotations for beginners?

barren coral
jagged hawk
tired brook
frank basin
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Thank you!

tired brook
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Everything you need to know is in that channel, so use whichever one suits you best - they’re all good

mossy fox
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fps is defimitely better, but i didnt try elvui with just elvui raidframes disabled - maybe that also would have done the trick idk

barren coral
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what are people's reasons for ditching elvui, i only did it because of frame rate and their stubborness with curseforge

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but the UI is overally vastly superior to other mod packages

mossy fox
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just framerates

eternal sundial
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Performance is sussy at times

tired brook
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framerate is definitely the most prevalent issue currently

eternal sundial
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But never truly awful IMO

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But also 7800x3D

mossy fox
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feel like it's just this raid, it's been particularly bad

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so people are looking for ways to gain frames

barren coral
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raided brood with a 30 man raid

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ive no clue how i lived

eternal sundial
warm crag
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brood and tindral holy

inner shadow
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am i the only one who forgot

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the existence of slam

nimble crater
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Are raid frames in elvui the major issue?

inner shadow
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in fury?

jagged hawk
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before having to rebuild I'll probably try out disabling/replacing the Unit/Raidframes for now..
Rebuilding everything to match AUI seems like a lot :<

tired brook
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slam definitely isn’t a powerful button but it’s your bis for downtime in st :D

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But yes, I defaulted to whirlwind in st had to swap skill placement around in st build because i would just press ww regardless of talents

mossy fox
inner shadow
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same

mossy fox
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oh but actually i did hear that raid frame addons work on top of blizzui raid frames

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as in, if you use addons for raid frames, your game is processing raid frames 2x

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might be capping

eternal sundial
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Friendly nameplates are also turbo ass as it loads 20 plates

mossy fox
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ye that has to be disabled on heavy fights

jagged hawk
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I sometimes wish there was a way to size the blizz frames like the elv ones instead of the scrollbars and hoping it ends up the right size :')
(and position frames the same way, too)

nimble crater
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I like to min/max frames lol

nimble crater
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I have majority of elvui disabled

mossy fox
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i use an addon to skin and customise them a bit

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it's called raidframesettings

nimble crater
# mossy fox

Yea this is clean and all you need as a dps imo

low folio
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not enough dooming in chat

nimble crater
low folio
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lol

nimble crater
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Maybe higher fps will actually be a fury buff

tired brook
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Why doom when we get to use thane in keys soon

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good vibes

river viper
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Is thane worked out to be better then?

nimble crater
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Will thane be better in 2 target cleave like court?

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Probably not

tired brook
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It could be in some niche situations, generally i’m going to say no but the variety is nice

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for bodark ^

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no clue about raid

stiff barn
river viper
copper patio
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Does anyone just play bloodtwister without plater? Or did you try setting the parasites to player low perf units?

chrome plover
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I just made parasites way small

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occaisionally still need to be able to see then when there's a few stragglers or some range got infested somehow

copper patio
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Yeah I think the plater performance unit setting just makes them not update auras/hp as much

rotund ginkgo
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do i need to complete t10 delve for zekvir at 2 question marks?

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or t11?

smoky vale
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10

autumn quarry
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From new patch MT better build then slayer?

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Sadge

rotund ginkgo
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gio SHUT THE FUCK UP

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ty

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:3

smoky vale
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:3

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it was misinput

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mb

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ill go end myself

smoky vale
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song is me rn

vague copper
heavy dock
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In this raid the shit stands in you

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With how much raid dmg there is

rotund ginkgo
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i hate AI

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can i Bitter Immunity this shit?

smoky vale
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yeah

rotund ginkgo
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sick

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can also avatar/OF it

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dope

smoky vale
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it took me 4 minutes to kill him once on my mage

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zz

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1st one was 7 minutes long though

sudden thicket
heavy dock
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Can also bladestorm it

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Lots if ways

glass rose
# mossy fox oh but actually i did hear that raid frame addons work on top of blizzui raid fr...

This is actually true with alot of BlizzUI settings , When you are disabling / hiding them they are still actually being loaded into your games adressables and there is no way to actually stop this happening unless you could remove the files from the games source and then still actually run the game (You do gain the benifits of the gpu not actually having to calculate the draw for things that arent actually dispalying but the resorces are still being used to actually load the data into your game)

restive fiber
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Is there any slayer talents change after the upcoming update ?

clever belfry
smoky vale
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wiat

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you are right

clever belfry
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but yes, using either the API or the combatlog to poll events is uhh

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quite 🐌

smoky vale
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i just assumed it was poison bc dwarf

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gm anda :3

rotund ginkgo
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it has to be one of them though cuz i think BI does remove it

clever belfry
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(and lets be real, in 99.9% of cases no one is lagging due to GPU during raid fights lmao)

rotund ginkgo
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poison/disease/curse

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idk

clever belfry
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just cause the main thread fucking chokes

glass rose
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Yeah for sure

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Its honestly really hard to get accurate data for any of this too

clever belfry
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let me just build wow from source and run a profiler frfr

glass rose
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I have 2 Pcs with the exact same CPU gpu combo and get wildy different fps in situations with the exact same ui setup

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game is just wilding out

pearl sequoia
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WoW 2

clever belfry
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i think people gotta start actually reinstalling their fuckin game and temp data every prepatch

glass rose
clever belfry
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and stop using 14yr old UI profiles

glass rose
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Id say they would probably need 6 years minimum to rebuild the entire game in a different engine

pearl sequoia
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WoW 3

glass rose
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not to mention the admin issues of finding people to do this and taking them away from the current game

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trust me when i say moving your game to another engine

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is not a fun time

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🤣

rotund ginkgo
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i keep dying to overlaps KEKE

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attempt 4

pearl sequoia
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dont think they ever will, they seem to be adamant on just upgrading the current engine which seems to work, with its issues

clever belfry
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the current engine probably resembles the classic wow engine in very few parts 🤷‍♂️

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a lot of shit is legacy stuff due to APIs having to function with legacy code

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but the actual underlying stuff was for sure iterated upon

glass rose
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its very scuffed

sand crest
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just kick the heal and let poison through

rotund ginkgo
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thats what im doing

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lol

clever belfry
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me when i find 10000 holes in the terrain

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every xpac

rotund ginkgo
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i just died to overlaps

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thats it

glass rose
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they for sure have a bunch of tools that where written by guys like 10 years ago and then they cant touch them because no one understands how it works

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so they just build ontop of it

clever belfry
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10?

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20

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lmaio

glass rose
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and then you have a bunch of absolutely cursed tools that break if you name something the wrong way lmao

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yea i mean

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wouldnt suprise me either haha

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i forget how old i am

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i am still 20 leave me alone

clever belfry
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one thing wow does excellently though is amount of data it uses

glass rose
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oh i mean the whole game is honestly a massive feat of engineering tbh

sand crest
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at this point theyd probably have an easier time rebuilding the game in a new engine than porting the current game to a new engine

glass rose
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they have done an insane job at getting it this far

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you cant port it

clever belfry
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thats kinda what "porting" it entails yes

glass rose
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There is no

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porting to another engine

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you have to rebuild everything

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even like the assets they use would not just work in another engine

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and thats 2d assets , 3d assets

lament hinge
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when did they update the engine, DF ? or just now for tww, performance is bad

clever belfry
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they update stuff

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every patch

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my king

glass rose
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^

proud leaf
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perf for me has been similar to DF so far

unreal onyx
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We still in 2004 engine

chrome plover
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i got off my mount on one of the side boats in dawnbreaker before first boss and fell through it

clever belfry
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perf in raid has certainly been more ass for me this xpac

proud leaf
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shit perf in Dornogal but then it was in Valdrakken too

chrome plover
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twice in a row

clever belfry
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but i just turned off my elv frames and use RFS on top of regular frames now

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and its fine 👍

glass rose
unreal onyx
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I wish I could compare but I got a new pc with tww

proud leaf
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Elv is terrible for performance. i quit using it in DF

chrome plover
mossy fox
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hmm

proud leaf
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lmfaoooo

glass rose
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AHAHAHA

clever belfry
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could NOT be me

proud leaf
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bruh

warm crag
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(ive found that actually confirming youve landed for like a full second avoids this)

molten wing
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@mossy fox you seem to have some WoW files in your Logs folder

clever belfry
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fuck i need

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new drives

smoky vale
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what do you need that much storage for

slim pollen
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Normal play performance: good
Loading screens: long, freezes and sometimes DCs since around launch

clever belfry
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🏴‍☠️

pearl sequoia
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holy shit 15 TB lool

unreal onyx
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Arr

smoky vale
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what games

restive fiber
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Ssd ??

glass rose
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is that a single 15tb drive

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lmao

clever belfry
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im not paying any fucking streaming services to service me 6mbps 1080p footage

molten wing
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imagine having space

clever belfry
proud leaf
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guess we know where Critcake keeps his pron stash

smoky vale
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XD

warm crag
unreal onyx
proud leaf
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"no one will look here, surely"

smoky vale
#

so you jsut mass copy to your folder seasons of a show at a time?

clever belfry
#

my main pc is legit running on a 1tb ssd and 2x500gb ssd in raid0

red berry
#

tbh mmos are just cpu intensive

lament hinge
#

well performance wasnt even close to this bad couple years ago

red berry
#

idk if its a warcraft issue

#

exclusively

clever belfry
#

but my 2nd pc has another 1.5tb of SSD and 16tb of usable hdd space

molten wing
chrome plover
clever belfry
#

and its obv hooked up with 10gig

#

so its not too bad!

chrome plover
#

poe is the same

red berry
#

ancient ass game

chrome plover
#

my current poe build simply cannot run on my cpu, i need to use nvidia cloud gaming thing

warm crag
clever belfry
#

aintnoway it was 99

chrome plover
#

🤓

glass rose
#

The main issue is that the engine prioritises single core performance

red berry
#

lets google it

red berry
#

i think it is multithreaded

smoky vale
#

its 2004

red berry
#

well no warcraft was released in 2004

clever belfry
chrome plover
#

game launched in 2004

smoky vale
#

i am 2 months older than wow

#

🙂

red berry
#

but there was development time

unreal onyx
#

Dou need a good single-core performing cpu for wow

clever belfry
#

but its still heavily throttled on the main thread

glass rose
#

yea

red berry
#

AHHA

glass rose
#

It is alot better now

red berry
#

i was right

clever belfry
#

and a phat fucking cache helps too

#

(amd x3ds my beloved)

unreal onyx
#

Thankfully I got my 7800x3d in time for tww

clever belfry
#

it was

#

quite laggy

#

do not run games over SMB fellas

pearl sequoia
#

people in 1999 were cooking

warm crag
#

noob

lament hinge
#

well what kind of cpu you expect is required to run the game atleast 60fps all the time and without frame drops like we currently see in raid.

glass rose
#

The weird thing is tho is that if you profile the same cpu gpu configs across like 10 wow players with the exact same UI setup

clever belfry
molten wing
#

i also have the best video card for WoW

glass rose
#

you are gunna get prettry different results

red berry
#

warcraft went crazy

pearl sequoia
unreal onyx
#

No cpu can handle wow at 60fps at all times with weakauras and addons running

glass rose
#

Best test is to just go inside the raid in 30 man and disable every addon you have

#

thats not true

lament hinge
#

ofc u can

glass rose
#

Id say im running at 60 and above at like 95% of the time

red berry
#

id love to see warcraft get FSR/DLSS/XESS

#

ive heard there's issues with frame generation re: MMOs

clever belfry
red berry
#

well

#

it would for someone with a 1050

#

or if you're using raytracing

mossy fox
#

wonder how much fps i'd gain on add spawns on broodtwister without plater

glass rose
#

it wouldnt

clever belfry
#

it helps visual fidelity

#

but not fps in wow

red berry
#

that too

unreal onyx
#

Gl running at 60 on pull at queen with 30 people

glass rose
unreal onyx
#

With not lowest graphics and barely any wa‘s or addons

clever belfry
#

tbf the lag on the start of queen

open sage
clever belfry
#

u sometimes just get a shit instance server

#

and the instance server chokes on loading fight scripts

red berry
#

i have a 4090 mind

clever belfry
#

very king

mossy fox
#

4090 doesnt really do anything on wow

unreal onyx
#

Queen 30-man heroic in week 1 was unplayable

glass rose
#

yea boss pull lag is kinda usually server related vs your personal hardware

red berry
#

nah

#

not unless you're playing at 8K anyway

#

which is just

#

so meaningless

molten wing
#

my 1050 and my CPU are in a love-hate relationship when i play WoW but i still get around 40-50 fps , when playing on it

clever belfry
glass rose
#

a 4090 is probably using like 10% max on wow if you are playing 1080p lol

clever belfry
#

lag spike -> smooth gameplay

#

my poor old 1080ti is getting used on this 3440x1440 display atleast in wow lmao

unreal onyx
#

My 4080 Super never runs over 45 c with barely any load

red berry
#

1080 TI's were so good tho

glass rose
#

1080ti is goated

unreal onyx
#

Since I got it turned to quiet mode

glass rose
#

im still rocking it in one of my systems

red berry
#

i used a TI until i got my 3080

glass rose
#

Deffo struggles in 4k

#

but for 1440p

#

1080ti is still a trooper

unreal onyx
#

I used a 2080 Super before my 4080, and that somewhat struggled on max graphics 1440p

chrome plover
#

i went 1060 3gb -> 3070ti

glass rose
#

but yea sadly for wow , GPU is pretty poorly utalized

red berry
#

i'm not really sure how much of warcraft is single-core utilized since it does support multi-core

glass rose
#

better since bfa as anda said

red berry
#

yeah that makes sense

unreal onyx
#

It supports but barely uses it

glass rose
#

but its still primarially using single core for most things

unreal onyx
#

Single core power is still king

red berry
#

id loveeee to get an X3D chip to replace this intel chip i have

glass rose
#

but thats a bit misleading

red berry
#

which i probably will when the 9800s drop tbh

glass rose
#

you arent going to get insane performance out of a super old single core thats juiced up

lament hinge
#

i had better performance in bfa than i do now and with worse setup.

glass rose
#

Yeah BFA was quite a upscale in performance for alot of people

dim oyster
red berry
#

i was lucky to get 80-90 FPS in valdrakken on good days with my 13900K tbh

glass rose
#

But they removed true fullscreen which is annoying

molten wing
#

i'm sure a big % of players that talk about having bad performance probably also haven't cleaned their WAs since BFA

glass rose
#

Main city performance is a pretty bad metric though

red berry
#

nah you're right

#

lots of players

#

lots of things on screen

glass rose
#

also lots of confliciting variables

arctic sinew
glass rose
#

Yes im aware

#

good old dx12

arctic sinew
#

Sadge

glass rose
#

my mortal enemy

unreal onyx
red berry
#

windows 11 also changes the flip model so any fullscreen problems are irrelevant assuming you're okay with using W11

lament hinge
#

i think wrath classic was running good aswell but since cata classic came out i had really bad performance in that.

red berry
glass rose
#

dx12 + the ancient windows bug that occours if you have muitiple screens running different refresh rates

#

sick combo

unreal onyx
arctic sinew
#

Ue5 and dx12 have been the core of 99% of performance issues for years now

red berry
#

i do hate UE5

#

if it can make development time better for companies, i guess i dont mind it but

glass rose
#

well I think the issue is actually more of a case that each year there are more and more hardware combos people are running

arctic sinew
#

Every single ue5 game looks the same and always have performance issues

glass rose
#

So its alot harder to identify potential performance issues now

red berry
#

they've been trying to work on that apparently

glass rose
#

than it was in the past

noble yew
arctic sinew
#

Nah ue3 and 4 also had stutter and other performance problems, it just continued with 5

red berry
#

that video was super interesting

#

nah they do. unreal engine is a stutterfest

#

traversal stutters

arctic sinew
#

The difference is now every single studio wants to use ue5 without learning how to use it

red berry
#

yeah. if you know how to work with it, you can manage to make titles that won't run like total ass

#

but mostly you just get another jedi survivor

glass rose
#

Actually though one of the main drivers for studios wanting to use UE5

#

is that the talent pool for people that are qualifed to use unreal is the biggest

arctic sinew
#

Ye

summer crater
#

The way augment fucked up any hope of ever having balance is funny

glass rose
#

Good chats tho peeps , time for me to do some actual work kekw

lament hinge
#

too many specs in the game hard to balance i guess

glass rose
#

i have reccently migrated onto warrior so you will be seeing more of my nose in here

summer crater
#

BFA was relatively ok

#

There was still a meta but other specs could actually play at least

arctic sinew
light haven
glass rose
#

Its reall yhard

#

we have been porting over to another engine

red berry
#

i enjoyed BFA a lot tbh

light haven
#

Fury first season was good rest terrible

glass rose
#

and its been hell on earth lmao

static rock
#

What is everyone's plan when this upcoming weekly patch notes go through? does anyone plan going MT instead of slayer?

rotund ginkgo
#

zekvir casting his p2 frontal when hes summoning the add across the room so the frontal is the size of the amazon river

#

😍

summer crater
red berry
#

for as much flak as bethesda gets, at least they're still trucking along with creation engine

#

starfield was. uh. something. a game. one that certainly does exist

#

but

summer crater
red berry
#

idk i prefer it to unreal

glass rose
red berry
#

id rather them do their propriety thing rather then go the way of every other company

light haven
arctic sinew
#

Vision grinding Aware

red berry
#

vision grinding sucked

unreal pewter
summer crater
arctic sinew
#

being forced to grind vision in order to do nzoth was trash

red berry
#

i hit 100 on my heart

#

before BFA ended

arctic sinew
#

corruptions were fun tho

summer crater
red berry
#

i think they put a lot of work into starfield

#

you never used to be able to load 25000 objects into a single area without it crashing or one of them killing you

inner shadow
#

i shoudl just go f myself

red berry
#

like just stepping on a tray in skyrim will launch you into the air

#

or a giant

#

making you an astronaut

light haven
#

Hot take, all of bethesda games are bad

chrome plover
rotund ginkgo
#

it literally is the worst overlap on zekvir

#

add across the room+frontal

#

and if ur mid bladestorm gg

red berry
#

cant follow you there. i like skyrim. oblivion is fun. morrowind is good

weak wadi
rotund ginkgo
#

nah im killing

#

he dropped to 18%

#

idgaf

inner shadow
#

btw

#

he is 430k dps

rotund ginkgo
#

7min fight kekw

inner shadow
static rock
#

Is anyone else using queen's mandate for keys? ik that overall sacbrood is better, but until i get better that 593, i am really loving it at 619, doing 1.2-1.4 million in a 9 and it's around 6-7% overall. thoughts?

rotund ginkgo
#

queens is big

#

esp for ST

#

@warm crag

#

:3

radiant plank
#

Ragish

#

have u saida slur today

#

in skyhold

smoky vale
#

yes

#

he told me to end it all

radiant plank
#

I knew it,

#

Average Dane

arctic sinew
static rock
#

I love the fact you can't really fuck it up like transmitter

smoky vale
#

less than 1 hour ago

red berry
#

im loving transmitter in keys tbh

summer crater
static rock
#

prob best trinket to par with another on use trinket

rotund ginkgo
#

DOES

#

ZEKVIR

#

HAVE A PULL

#

MECHANIC??

#

DO THE PORTALS PULL IF U TOUCH THEM?

#

FUCKING 17% AND I GOT PULLED THEN STUCK ON A WALL MID BLADESTORM ON HIS FRONTAL

inner shadow
rotund ginkgo
inner shadow
#

VERY TILTING

#

XD

high basin
#

i like your ui

inner shadow
#

that shows you which spell is ready

#

it showed odyns fury and bladestorm

static rock
molten wing
#

smh

rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
#

it is?

#

can just stand in it?

delicate thicket
#

change the duration for however long u want to show it

static rock
#

btw, i saw a few weeks ago, that twilight flame in grim batol was made to not be spell reflectable, but I've still been able to spell reflect and ignore it completely.

delicate thicket
#

yeah u can deflect it at the very least

open flax
#

Just stand in it and dps him, watch out for orbs

#

For a period it would reflect and chunk the boss

rotund ginkgo
#

yeah okay idm if it doesnt deal damage

#

but

#

ah i see

static rock
rotund ginkgo
#

deflect = neglects the ability

open flax
#

Yeah. That's the deflect

rotund ginkgo
#

reflect = reflects it back at the caster

static rock
#

Gotcha

rotund ginkgo
#

some spell reflects will deflect

static rock
#

Guessing it scaled too well to be reflectable, huh?

quartz tulip
#

How’s the raid loot work if I kill heroic queen does it unlock all possible loot?

open flax
#

It would do like 10% of his health or smth I think

quartz tulip
#

For vault

open flax
#

There are videos on youtube still of it

rotund ginkgo
#

just tested

#

it doesnt reflect

rotund ginkgo
#

or deflect

#

i still got feared

quartz tulip
#

Ez

static rock
quartz tulip
#

Spymasters web on boomie tomorrow

open flax
#

Only Phase 2 fear @rotund ginkgo

rotund ginkgo
#

ah okay

#

p1 just run away?

static rock
#

what is everybody hoping for in vault?

open flax
#

Yeah, just run out p1

rotund ginkgo
#

kk

vagrant imp
#

who cares about vault, buffs inc...

inner shadow
#

the weakaura no?

eternal sundial
#

It's an addon u can google

static rock
inner shadow
#

ah ok

#

goti t

vagrant imp
static rock
#

Hoping for a either myth tier piece or myth equivalent, or myth weapon, gotta pray to RNG jesus

vagrant imp
#

Just in an AOTC guild, I like the casual pace, so no Myth track stuff yet.

dusty bluff
#

The new fury changes are buffs or more like nerfs?

vagrant imp
#

Thane buffs

dusty bluff
#

What about the set buffs and the ignore pain nerf

vagrant imp
#

read in updates tab

proud leaf
vagrant imp
#

set buffs also

unreal pewter
#

new fury changes are arms nerfs

rotund ginkgo
dusty bluff
#

I wonder if we will be able to do more damage Mtn thing got a lot of gloves for our top damaging abilities

vagrant imp
#

Thane buffs make me happy, only want 5 times more lightning effects

rotund ginkgo
#

@inner shadow bro do u just want my entire UI

static rock
molten wing
#

not sure if it was fixed @rotund ginkgo but i just used two SR in p2 to hit him for a total of 59m dmg

#

and killed him

#

they could have fixed it

inner shadow
#

price?

opaque solstice
#

anyone know why i have no worldsoul memory quests up on my alt?

i see its supposed to be up in an kajet

rotund ginkgo
#

@molten wing ill check

#

@inner shadow idk if ur sarcastic or not

proud leaf
molten wing
rotund ginkgo
#

yeah ik

smoky vale
#

doing it as fire gladge vs doing it as dev deadge

#

havent even tried it on my war

inner shadow
proud leaf
#

So just to be clear, there are changes coming this week but there are still more changes waiting in the wings that will be deployed with the 11.0.5 patch on the 22nd?

summer stone
#

How it feel to be better than arms for a season guys?

hard widget
#

Fury almost always better in m+

#

Arms almost always better in st

royal narwhal
#

have you guys tried thane in raid? i've tried in m+ and felt pretty good, nice numbers and awesome to use thunderclap as big aoe dmg plus the 3 target thunderbolt it's really useful

narrow narwhal
#

If you're just doing normal/heroic you can play thane. It's too far behind for mythic

static rock
static rock
valid tree
#

How much precentage is that on overal ish singeltarget/Aoe

#

the smal buffs

warm crag
vagrant imp
#

posted in updates

#

^

main halo
#

I've finaly got Ara-kara, i had Transmitter and Sikran's Endless Arsenal. The strange thing, when i simm myself with Ara-kara and Transmitter, i do less dmg on the sim as with Transmitter ans Sikran's. What are your, toughts, which one to use in m+?

warm crag
#

if your gear and trinket ilvls arent good thats pretty normal

#

idk what sikrans does tbf id just run treach ara everywhere

pine frost
#

Hey, was trying Zekvir ?? and died to auto attacks lol. i'm 608 ilvl. Is this normal or i'm doing something wrong?

main halo
#

here is Sirkan's, the thing is it is 606 ilvl ara is 619 😄

chrome plover
#

he hurts but i dont think you should just be dying to them straight up

#

i did it at like 615 though

pine frost
gusty cloak
#

make sure your taking off the big ass DOT off you

#

by charging or bladestorm or avatar

chrome plover
#

he throws red potions on the floor and you need to walk over them

pine frost
#

Lol, didn't know that. Maybe that's why brann wasn't healing me hahaha

chrome plover
#

yeah

valid vault
#

is the difference in damage big arms vs fury in raid? in playing my warrior alt but dont know what spec to learn/focus on first.. it will be used for HC raids and some M+

acoustic yoke
#

Can't go wrong with fury for the vast majority of the fights and M+

#

Really ST fights where Arms is better

chrome plover
acoustic yoke
#

And M+ you can do arms and be fine too tbf

night relic
valid vault
#

okey, thanks for the tips

narrow narwhal
#

Pick which one you like more for heroic

still wave
#

Agreed, hc is kinda w/e just play what you like the most.

#

Even mythic, unless you’re in a top end guild

rotund ginkgo
#

:3

rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
eager thorn
rotund ginkgo
#

is tehre a tracker to see attempts?

#

i think it was probably around 20 ish

eager thorn
#

Not sure

rotund ginkgo
#

i had 2-3 attempts where i actually did 130% of his hp

#

he just healed once + i got him to 5%

#

so he technically shouldve died had i not missed it

#

kekw

eager thorn
#

Yeah my best run before actually getting the kill he got low n healed

warm igloo
#

wclog down?

eager thorn
#

I just wish cds reset on death felt sadge having to wait like a min before every pull

unreal onyx
#

7s give hero track items, right?

nimble kraken
#

7 for hero one end of dungeon
8 for vault 4/6 heroic pulls
9 for gilded crests and hero 2 end of dungeon
10 for myth 1 vault

unreal onyx
#

my vault is already full with 10s, I just wanna farm GB for the ring

nimble kraken
#

7s 🙂

unreal onyx
#

I assume 7s or 8s is best for that

inner shadow
nimble kraken
#

8 for vault, but if vault is full just 7 spam

south kayak
barren coral
#

so where does RB fall in here when opportunist is active

warm crag
#

you ramp into cb

barren coral
#

so opportunist works with CB?

south kayak
#

Yes

rotund ginkgo
#

w/ depths of insanity

#

thats it

eager thorn
rotund ginkgo
#

then dont sub

#

:3

eager thorn
#

:3

rancid knoll
#

Hey, i can see that most people play night elf, is this purely for shadow meld or is there some other reason?

eager thorn
#

prob shadow meld

chrome plover
#
  • looks good (in a lot of people's opinion)
#

personally I play goblin

eager thorn
#

playing what u think looks cool > meta race

glass rose
#

panda op

orchid dagger
#

But that's also mostly a pve choice

#

You have Dwarf/DID, Gnome, Human, Void Elf, Orc

rancid knoll
#

Thx!

hasty tide
#

Only took 30 runs

modest condor
#

grats

eager thorn
#

big

modest condor
#

i'll just get mine from vault copium

grave fog
#

i'll live with my vet one forever

radiant plank
#

Celebrating uselss trinket chatting

hasty tide
#

If it comes myth track tomorrow

eager thorn
#

im glad i got transmitter from vault

hasty tide
#

I'm gonna rage

sleek badge
#

For mythic at least

hasty tide
#

I only do keys

#

So meh?

south kayak
sleek badge
#

mythic+

hasty tide
#

I preferred it over the other

warm crag
oblique trail
#

Skarm is technically better for M+ of the two

sleek badge
eager thorn
south kayak
#

Lucky

oblique trail
#

You're very likely to have stacks to make it give more Mastery than Mark

radiant plank
#

silken?

eager thorn
#

got sikran neck week 1 too :3

south kayak
#

Damn

warm crag
sleek badge
radiant plank
eager thorn
#

my rng kinda been good for vaults ngl

oblique trail
#

They're pretty much even though

#

So it's whatever which of the two you have

eager thorn
#

626 sikran neck > hero transmitter > 626 rash cape

sleek badge
#

I had no idea of the passive uptime and how much time it would take to stack it

eager thorn
#

:3

radiant plank
#

socket -> socket -> socket

#

Lucky me

#

: 3

oblique trail
#

loot better

south kayak
#

Today I got 636 Crafted Weapon and Hero sac

#

:3

eager thorn
#

if i already cleared 25h icc this week can i not do 10 man or normal mode

oblique trail
#

shrimply just get mythic Sikran neck on first kill

eager thorn
#

i c

south kayak
#

They changed that later

eager thorn
#

just seems weird some raids you can do twice

south kayak
#

To be locked to each difficulty instead of the whole raid

winter shoal
eager thorn
south kayak
south kayak
eager thorn
#

rip ty for help

winter shoal
#

In wrath you could do both 25 and 10 as separate lockouts, but 25n and 25h/10n and 10h shared lockouts

oblique trail
#

The first 4 arguably are quite easy if you have any semblance of hands

winter shoal
#

Idk about how they work now

radiant plank
#

The first 4 are like 20 pulls

south kayak
#

We didn't even get curve yet deadge

eager thorn
#

finally started chasing cool transmogs :3

winter shoal
oblique trail
#

I'd go as far as to wager that HC Ansurek is harder than first 4 Mythic

#

But I am prob out of touch saying this

south kayak
#

At least we managed to get to phase 2 on hc

eager thorn
#

i've heard people say that tbf

south kayak
#

but a lot of people are dead

#

by that point

#

need to minimize deaths and we're good

#

easier said than done

oblique trail
#

P1 Ansurek is the hardest

#

If you get past that somewhat clean she dies

eager thorn
#

yea

south kayak
#

I thought the 3rd one was

radiant plank
#

1st one

oblique trail
#

By comparison it's not

eager thorn
#

nah p1 hardest

radiant plank
#

Deadly

south kayak
#

Oh okay

radiant plank
#

you can just die off randomly

oblique trail
#

P1 has a lot of mechanical checks to it and damage going out

radiant plank
#

if you dont pay attention 247

crisp bronze
#

The 3rd set of roots is what's been getting my group

eager thorn
#

the sudden death this mentions is the talent that lets you execute at any hp right

oblique trail
#

Yes

eager thorn
#

ok ty

south kayak
#

It's crazy

gaunt egret
#

Is crushing blow supposed to be number 1 in M+ dungeon?

oblique trail
#

Generally yes

radiant plank
#

But its even better for WW

eager thorn
radiant plank
#

So you dont bringa 2nd warrior

#

:deadaf

south kayak
#

Shrug

south kayak
#

if it's REALLY bad yeah

#

lol

eager thorn
#

i've had it most of the time

#

its like 1/10 pulls or smth i dont

#

but naturally that 1/10 hits when im not ready for it to and end up dying lmao

gaunt egret
#

like is it better to use all the charges of crushing blow or rampage because I see most people with crushing blow as 1 but my rampage is most damage and its nto even close usually XD

oblique trail
#

You use up CB and BB before you Rampage

#

Unless you lose Enrage

south kayak
#

What about if you're rage capped

radiant plank
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Read a guide and hit dummmies angle

south kayak
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after CB

radiant plank
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rampage

south kayak
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ok so im doing it right

eager thorn
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ye like opener ur gonna get giga rage so its just rampage cb repeat

south kayak
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Please buff fury damage..

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at least rampage 15%

winter shoal
south kayak
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thanks

eager thorn
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instructions unclear titans grip now removed

oblique trail
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As Fury you can basically solo roots

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It shouldn't be the damage that's missing

radiant plank
eager thorn
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ye

oblique trail
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If you want pointers, follow what Critcake did in his HC Ansurek vid

eager thorn
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1st roots you OF+BS, 2nd roots you ava+TR, 3rd set you OF+BS

south kayak
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^

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It's perfect

radiant plank
crisp bronze
eager thorn
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thats what i noted for p1 after watching crit vid^ if ppl need

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can time 1st set of webs cos ava/tr will be like 31-29s cd

oblique trail
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It's more for the entire fight and how he used CDs, but sure that's basically it

crisp bronze
oblique trail
winter shoal
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It's like a 0.5% damage optimization to add the rule of "BB unless you're already at 100+ rage and above 35% boss health", which really only ever comes up during reck+lust, where you'll ramp > CB > ramp > CB etc.

For most people in most circumstances, it's not worth worrying about compared to just building good habits of using both your CB and BB charges

radiant plank
oblique trail
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I was AM slayer sadly..

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Not a good time

south kayak
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Am slayer is cursed

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BS desyncs so much

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I am miserable..

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buff fury st

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btw did BM go from first ST to last

winter shoal
south kayak
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with the nerfs

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lmao

modest condor
south kayak
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I mean probably lmao

eager thorn
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you're not gonna really gonna get value from webs with it

winter shoal
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Probably true

oblique trail
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Unless you're struggling extremely bad with adds you wont take Uproar

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The loss from ATTT is not worth it otherwise

winter shoal
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I'd rather guarantee nobody dies to roots than get a small amount of boss dam though tbh

dim crag
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Hello, can someone help me find out the weak aura that make a sound alert with whirlwind stack ?

south kayak
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We have 2 fury warriors in raid, no one needs to do anything to the roots

pale lava
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iirc they are a bit below

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the middle pack

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now

south kayak
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and their aoe is shit lmao

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gg

pale lava
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^

south kayak
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where were you when bm was dead

pale lava
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their only niche was ST and that was ruined, guess bm is the new fury

oblique trail
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In a happy place

eager thorn
oblique trail
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Any pet spec can die for all I care

eager thorn
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it also means your burst is gonna do less to adds

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cos less strength

south kayak
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Now we need FDK, Enhance, and Arcane/fire to be dead

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Please

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God

crisp bronze
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I have 2 others but 1 is military so his schedule isn't consistent the other is like herding a cat to have him hold cds

winter shoal
eager thorn
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idk i dont sim talents

south kayak
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not gonna happen with fire since blizzard just buffed them 3 weeks in a row

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like idiots

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and now they're first

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classic

pale lava
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me and my friends were counting the nr of weeks until fire was meta again

gusty cloak
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nerf DK when

pale lava
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this time they made sure fire is meta since the start

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not later

south kayak
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  • Blizzard, probably
pale lava
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dw AM thane will save us next patch

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we'll be meta in M+

crisp bronze
south kayak
south kayak
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tbh fuck raid

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m+ >

pale lava
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but I don't have high expectations for next tier

south kayak
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Counting the days until patch .5 for AM thane

chrome plover
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idk for this raid at least fury will never not be the best warrior spec on ansurek/ovinax/rashana

eager thorn
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we're still p good in m+

oblique trail
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Fury still does the add job the best in raid

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So the nerfs wont be changing that

pale lava
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not good

lament hinge
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playable not good