fury

[acoustic yoke]

Ngl I think the 15 secs affix is a tad much

[mossy fox]

death affix is a massive L

[forest owl]

for some reason i see a fair amount of necrotics disband aswell, mixture of tanks overpulling 1st area and people missing hook after hook.

[fickle cedar]

pugging necrotic wake is a gamble x)

[acoustic yoke]

Lots of things to just get punished by that can cause a wipe

[mossy fox]

-1min 15s for full team wipe is so insanely punishing when wiping is already a massive time loss in itself

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah indeed

[pliant jackal]

some dungeons are super punishing if people mess up

[acoustic yoke]

Don't think they accounted for all the other periods of time you lose after a wipe

[covert blaze]

@mossy fox hello mr gripcake

[regal valley]

Do I prioritise raging blow over bloodthirsty after rampage is St? I don't see on wowhead in rotation part.

[acoustic yoke]

Depending on the dungeon that 1 min 15 is like 3-4 mins

[mossy fox]

hey

[acoustic yoke]

With already tight timers

[covert blaze]

how is the fdk coming along

i want to play an alt and idk if i wanna do enha or dk

[restive peak]

Bro needs to roll UHDK like me

[fickle cedar]

yeah CB > BB although you end up using both almost everytime

[restive peak]

That shit is awesome

[covert blaze]

i played that for years

does it own

[restive peak]

It’s so fun man

[mossy fox]

maybe i should upload this key

[acoustic yoke]

Enhance goes hard

[covert blaze]

602 lmao

[tacit sonnet]

Sorry if this is asked a lot but is thane still gonna be behind after changes come thru?

[covert blaze]

is that a darkmoon trinket

[mossy fox]

yes

[restive peak]

Bro it’s a lot more fun than I expected

[regal valley]

Ok thanks

[pliant jackal]

how many dirt naps you took in that key lol

[covert blaze]

bursting sores is giga fun if stuff lives long enough

[mossy fox]

i'll give UH a try at some point but rn im just working on getting better at frost

[acoustic yoke]

Man the downfall of frost dk is going to hit so hard when they decide to overnerf it

[modest condor]

cant wait for the comments

[restive peak]

Yes in the lower keys it’s a bit wonky

Cuz setup takes 6-8 secs

And shit is dead

[nimble ermine]

yea waiting for the "when" to happen

[forest owl]

everyone going dk so it gets nerfed xD

[restive peak]

But if it lives…oh boy

[pliant jackal]

unholy is fun riding the horse

[mossy fox]

this is the grand plan

[fervent yoke]

Is it difficult to play compared to warr?

[mossy fox]

fdk is quite easy really

i'm just not a multiclasser

i know the way of the zug only

[pliant jackal]

unholy isn't that hard either

[quartz tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[fervent yoke]

All hail the zug

[restive peak]

Yeah it’s definitely weird to not be warr in a lot of situations

Like you have similar solutions, or better ones, but it feels off

[mossy fox]

missing my charge, leap and even war machine

[summer crater]

Frost is probably just slightly more complicated than fury

[acoustic yoke]

But ams goes hard though

[restive peak]

I’m sure it’s just a reps thing, I’ve done like 10 keys as dk and like 2000 as warr so

Yeah fr

[forest owl]

leap and charge are the 2 most missed things for me

[sudden tusk]

Thane Gaming

[forest owl]

deaths advance is still pog, especially on nexus

[restive peak]

How is it

[sudden tusk]

Will test it next week but should be decent

[restive peak]

Noice, yeah I think I’ll be swapping as well

[mossy fox]

i have some faith in AM thane M+ if the BT/RB buffs to through

[pliant jackal]

its wild to me that i played a little bit of fdk like 2 xpac ago and it still plays the same

[sudden tusk]

yeah if those go through

might be solid

[restive peak]

Yeah with those it’ll be a very strong spec, super tanky

[restive peak]

Yeah fdk is similar to us

[bright flax]

People really be out here progging M+ thats crazy

[acoustic yoke]

Rampage City

I can almost taste it

[pliant jackal]

yea that 80% best try is killing me

[acoustic yoke]

Until I wear out my 3 keybind

[forest owl]

just noticing, helluva lotta passives on fdk tree

[mossy fox]

they have a nice passive 20% health talent in the first tier of their class tree too

🙂

[winter fossil]

Did anyone play Mountain thane?

is it worth switching or not yet?

[pliant jackal]

man i thought warriors were tanky until playing dk this xpac

[mossy fox]

dude i'm just payphoning everything as a dk

[winter fossil]

Am getting my ass kicked in M+ by other classes 😦

and lower gear

@mossy fox do u recommend switching to Mountain Thane in M+ or not yet ?

[restive peak]

Yeah you can legit avoid 70% of mechanics as you learn it’s wild

[snow edge]

The buffs aren’t live, so.. no

Nothing stopping you from practicing it on dummies in town

[forest owl]

my first thought as dk was, how am i doing this much damage, while feeling like im pressing nothing.

[pliant jackal]

Death's advance is broken

[winter fossil]

Yeah was thinking to start here :p and then maybe by next week I try it in 1 dungeon

[mossy fox]

i use death's advance as a sprint a bit much lmao

[elder granite]

this is the most mind numbing season ever

im getting declined to 7s bro

[winter fossil]

Welcome to my world...

[teal zenith]

any sims aval for MT buffs coming?

[winter fossil]

Are u higher than all the people in the group also?

[elder granite]

yes

not always but im 2200 with timed 10s

it makes no sense

[pliant jackal]

honestly could be some many reasons

[elder granite]

cant get rid of my week one 6 ARAK

[pliant jackal]

i don't think people aren't just inviting warriors

oh yea that will do it

lol

[forest owl]

lets be honest one of the biggest reasons is there are 50 dps signing up all with similar score and ilvl

[elder granite]

but i see furys in groups to so idk

[sudden tusk]

@mossy fox i also think AMS is just absolutely busted beyond beleif

[pliant jackal]

AMS + talent is insane

[sudden tusk]

it hasnt really been an issue before but my god does that button just let you live anything in a 12

[elder granite]

been trying to find a key for 40+ minutes

[quartz tulip]

get friends

[elder granite]

i have an adventurer sacbrood still and i dont think ill ever get rid of it

[quartz tulip]

LMAO

[elder granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tf-gif-10288190

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-malevolent-shrine-copium-gif-17048246567311451549

[mossy fox]

yea it's like half of your health in magic absorb

idk i also think deathstrike spamming is just insane

[sudden tusk]

Its basically having Impending Victory whenever you want it

[teal pine]

tanked the last boss of ara kara on a 10 from like 50% just death striking

[sudden tusk]

especially outside of a burst window you can just spend whatever

[teal pine]

thats a wild button

[acoustic yoke]

DK survivability is nothing to scoff at for sure

[minor vine]

I know it sucks but have u considered playing prot for keys

[sudden tusk]

they also get to take their +stam talents

[minor vine]

Being a tank gets u invited easily

[sudden tusk]

Smile

[elder granite]

i did the first 2 weeks just to get some io

[acoustic yoke]

2 min icebound is the icing on the cake

[forest owl]

makes me wonder why im playing warrior tbh

[acoustic yoke]

We lacked warriors for prog

I made the mistake of saying I'd play it

[minor vine]

The answer is my guild raid needs battleshout. And I'm the only warrior lmao

If not I would be playing dk too

[forest owl]

yeah im in the same situation i guess thats my plans on rerolling screwed xD

[pliant jackal]

does your guild not do m+

[forest owl]

nah just 10s for vault, occasionally an 11 for the hell of it

[mossy fox]

dude how tf do i disable this mouseover/hover reaction thing

[acoustic yoke]

Soon as .5 hits I'm fighting for an enhance spot

[acoustic yoke]

Is that a new thing?

[mossy fox]

it appeared like 2 days ago for me

[acoustic yoke]

Never seen that on my disc b4

[forest owl]

ye same

[modest condor]

been there for like a week already for me

[forest owl]

must be a yellow name privilege

[elder granite]

i really dont want to have to push this 10 siege

[pale lava]

holy

imagine the gap if you were 620+

[summer quail]

do you miss frenzy tho?

[buoyant salmon]

mine doesnt show that actually

well it does but not in this server

[modern fern]

does anyone know what setup should I be using to sim for M+?

[ivory ingot]

@mossy fox you playing thane for reset in keys

[velvet obsidian]

We gotta sandbag thane so it doesn't get nerfed. Trust guys.

[ivory ingot]

[elder granite]

i got declined to this im logging off

[ivory ingot]

ive gotten declined from a 2 as prot more then once

at 615

[nimble ermine]

theres like a quadrillion applicants to ara kara

[ivory ingot]

i saw 7 not heroic

lul

[feral ivy]

NGL im loving shadowmeld because atm tanks cant hold aggro even though i wait like 3 seconds before going in an popping cd's

[ivory ingot]

play thane

hidden tech

[elder granite]

idk this has been kinda crazy

ssadge

[clever path]

Mplus this seasons is honestly bad

[young swan]

feel like its mostly fine now\

[hard widget]

Meh im not the biggest fan so far either

[young swan]

stonevault prob the worst dungeon this season

GB close behind

otherwise tho im not that upset

[hard widget]

The dungeons is not the issue

Its just the tuning wall they put at +12 i dislike

[young swan]

oh i mean challengers peril is dogshit

and the 12 affix is dogshit

[hard widget]

Yep

Other than that the season is quite fine

[young swan]

but those are easy fixes

the dungeons are not so bad i feel

[hard widget]

I mean some arent THAT fun but its alright

Its just really hard to filter currently to do +12

Because +11 is so easy compared, so the its hard to tell people apart who are good enough or arent for 12's

[buoyant salmon]

u can have full +11s and not be capable of reasoanbly doing a 12

thats cringe

[hard widget]

U can even have them +2

I agree

Very cringe

[dim mason]

Do I still have to worry about the order in which I pop Avatar/Rek?

[pure otter]

is it worth useing wrecking throw this week for affix if so what to drop for it

[narrow narwhal]

No

[hard widget]

Yes

U pop reck before avatar

If ur talented in titans torment

[dim mason]

Okay thanks

I assume you meant Berserker's Torment though

[hard widget]

Nope

Titans torment = when u cast avatar it will proc odyns fury

And the other way around

[upbeat plume]

sadly the throw talents are really hard to come by without losing other talents

that are more solid in more situations

[snow edge]

Depends on ST v. MT

[dim mason]

I was thinking ST, since when I played Fury in DF there was some weirdness with the two buffs

[hard widget]

It doesnt depend on it

U only have to use reck before avatar if u have that talent

Otherwise it doesnt matter

[dim mason]

So I can’t macro them together

[snow edge]

I meant the node choice

[hard widget]

Yeah but i meant to say

[snow edge]

Oh right

[hard widget]

U only use reck before avatar if u got that talented

[snow edge]

Doesn't depend on the order

[hard widget]

Otherwise it doesnt matter yep

[hard widget]

U can

[dim mason]

Just gotta make sure Reck is first in the macro is all?

[hard widget]

Pretty much

[sullen dove]

i think you get more rage that way on the initial button press but theres no other real reason

you still get same duration of both

but also i dont think anyone is playing berserkers torment on anything, liable to change if am starts overtaking but an extra odyns is kinda too good

maybe 11.0.5 when odyns gutted can be traded out

[hard widget]

On full st

Like Rashanan 🤡

[sullen dove]

dont u take the 2/2 of whateve relse is there

true

big rash st

[hard widget]

No in full ST u take berserkers torment

[sullen dove]

idk shows u last time i gave st fury build a thought

[hard widget]

U dont play Odyns

[sullen dove]

wack

well yea

[snow edge]

Damn swordish, Fury noob

[sullen dove]

fury L

[opaque solstice]

guys

yall think 2-6 keys are worth running?

[hard widget]

no

[sullen dove]

ya i mean if you can do higher youd rather do higher, at least 7 for hero track gear

[opaque solstice]

they feel really unrewarding

[sullen dove]

but if youre like 570 ilvl

you gonna either be doin them low shits or doin delves

[opaque solstice]

im 583 jst made a new warrior

[hard widget]

Just do delves if ur not doing 7 or +

Till u have the gear to do 7 or +

[opaque solstice]

that was my thoughts

[sullen dove]

def get way more crests from keys

[opaque solstice]

u guys ever farm non bountifuls for maps n shit?

[sullen dove]

but you prolly eventually catch up

hell no

at the very least first week when delves were a thing

[hard widget]

Yeah maybe actually for the crests

[sullen dove]

avg person would have like 16 keys stocked up

[hard widget]

Im spoiled, i got the discount on crests

[sullen dove]

so just doing 4 bountifuls a day for first few days i got all my maps

but maps get kinda overshadowed by heroic raid after a point

so if u can reliably do that or farm m+ maybe

i also think maps are much rarer out of non bountifuls

[opaque solstice]

i hadnt got a map yet on my warr

only had them alts

ahh

[sullen dove]

took me until like my 12th or so bountiful on the first week then i got 3 within 2 days

2 of em like back to back

[hard widget]

Craft ur sparks, do bounti delves

[opaque solstice]

i got frost, sin, mm all up to 610 but im enjoying warr so much more

[hard widget]

Do raid

[opaque solstice]

than all of them

[hard widget]

And then go +9's

[sullen dove]

w

[opaque solstice]

jjust cleared nm

[hard widget]

Or just convince some people to join ur key

😂

[pearl sequoia]

+9

are you crazy!!?!?!?!

[hard widget]

INSANE

[pearl sequoia]

Pug went well

[hard widget]

The 100 roll

💀

[pearl sequoia]

It was fate, cant you see

[plush flower]

slug die yippie

[low folio]

man powerful enrage makes me feel like i do way less single target

[eager thorn]

damn pumper dk

[upbeat plume]

they are like within .3% of eachother for most

powerful vs frenzied that is

[tardy axle]

wouldnt frenzied lose value the closer you get to the .8 gcd cap?

under like blood lust and stuff

[low folio]

i mean i do have like only 23% haste with mana oils on due to gearing

but theres definitely a noticable decline in single target for my character

on like bosses inside of keys

[dusty cove]

why they nerfing slayer man other specs get their underperforming hero talents buffed, we just get out good one nerfed

[upbeat plume]

not really haste has other benefits other then the gcd cap

[young swan]

@open prairie you?

[modest condor]

cap is at 0.75 not at 0.8, but that's at 100% haste which you wont reach even with frenzied enrage at the end of an expansion

and no not necessarily, haste is multiplicative, whether you start at 15% haste or at 40% haste the increase is roughly the same

what matters is how much of your damage is affected by haste or by damage increase

[next mica]

can i advertise my guild in here?

[full portal]

is dungeon slice updated for tww?

[open prairie]

lmao the debuff is correct but otherwise no

[young swan]

damn

saw rogue on malganis with roughly similar name

[modest condor]

no

you can not advertise murlocs ate my boots here

[open prairie]

man's utilizing the 6min dps cd

[noble pulsar]

guilds only have room for one alpha warrior anyways

[torpid sand]

i tried to do 14 necrotic wakes today

all of them failed

god i'm frustrated

people let their pets up and the hook hits the pet

therefore, wipe

[modest condor]

that hook has to be one of the worst mechanics in a dungeon boss ever

[torpid sand]

the fact that the hook can hit pets and even fucking totems

is garbage

[pearl sequoia]

it was hitting the orb affix's wasnt it xd

[bright flax]

So much for this change eh 💀

[inner zinc]

Considering the affix desyncs our 1.5min cds from the mark of khardros trinket, do you guys just send it off with the next BS/OF ?

Or just use it without cds?

[normal yoke]

Hey folks, is Patchwerk, 5 boss, 5 min still the best way to sim for M+?

[frozen lake]

It never was

[summer quail]

I just sim patchwerk 1 target. we press same buttons in st and aoe anyway

[young swan]

pugging 10s & 11s kinda piss easy huh

unironically easier than 7, 8, 9

[rigid stirrup]

higher quality of player for sure

I've had some sus tanks toss good runs on 11's because they wanted to cook when we were on good pace

[young swan]

yeah thats always cringe

i almost did an 11 dawn as thane

[rigid stirrup]

might as well have

there has to be HARD trolling to int that key

[young swan]

it was kinda close

cause the tank was pulling very safe

[rigid stirrup]

People not giga pulling church 2 packs at a time brings me much pain

also any route involving clearing 2nd boss area is COOKED

[young swan]

he was doing every mini boss with nothing else

it was so annoying

[summer quail]

dawn is so chill honestly, but need tanks to pull decently(tbf the pull thing is all dungeons)

[rigid stirrup]

I feel like thane gets more value the bigger the pull

tank playing too safe with thane in group feels like a big L

[young swan]

yeah dawn is big chilling

super easy dungeon

at least for dps

feels like everything this season is just a healer check

[summer quail]

did a 10 dawn on my undergeared dk. was payphone whole way

[buoyant salmon]

some lf those enemies dont do anything though

their beam is fake damage

[left perch]

Was same for +20 weeklies in df. Do you want 19 push group or 20 vault farm

[rigid stirrup]

I've had instances of the tank pulling like 5 casters and itjust wiping the group because of the lack of ability to gather or lacking kicks

Church is always the better solution area for count imo

[buoyant salmon]

ppl waste kicks on the beams that dont do anything

i agree church is better though

[rigid stirrup]

Get most of the count early on and its just straight shots to everything else save maybe 1 extra pull

[torpid sand]

game died to someone else?

[oblique trail]

Sadly not

[humble plover]

not you too

[modest condor]

hate that

[young swan]

yeah its cringe

okay as much as i've shit on thane

im kind of excited to do SOME damage outside cd's

i will miss the giga burst tho

[pliant jackal]

does arakara on the last boss when you try to leap out feel harder than before

or is this just me

[sullen dove]

yea idk what they did but used to be able to rly easily leap out first week

but now if you try it she just like sucks you in even harder anyway

think you might be able to pre-leap then charge in in the last second and you spend longer charging b4 suck ends

[eager thorn]

i had a shaman in an 11 earlier doing 750k dps

some pugs are cursed

[silver pecan]

Anyone got the advanced simc string for food?

[summer crater]

In pugs I've noticed mages often do really low

[modest condor]

the timing is really tight, she pulls you in like <1s before the explosion and you need to leap after that pull

[pliant jackal]

why would they need to make it harder when you got fucking dks just running circles around everyone

[eager thorn]

most ppl are normally fine

this dude just should not have been in an 11

[smoky vale]

^^ usually right as the cast ends so the pull happens but its displaced by leap can also be done on wrest in ansurek

[restive narwhal]

On Rash myth, if we get the Webbs, we just jump out and wait or do we have to break the Connection to the Web ?

[oblique trail]

If you get webs, you go out, place the big web in a spot that's ideally preplanned depending on where you are in the boss arena, walk out of the web, and wait for the threads between you and the rest of the webbed people to break and then walk into the group again

[restive narwhal]

Thanks !

[oblique trail]

Every place though except at the very start though you can fairly safely keep uptime on the boss while being webbed

[restive narwhal]

Okay. Thank you Banezi !

[candid falcon]

is warcraft logs down for anyone else

[wild elbow]

yep

been down a few times today

[candid falcon]

aw

[serene vessel]

Chat what we think of this one

[young swan]

💀

thats pretty good

[olive wraith]

Change girlfriend

[crisp wyvern]

Hi! Sometimes I’m finding it very hard to play around transmitter trinket. Can anyone point me towards a guide of spreadsheet that explains the use and when and where to use it. I’m sitting on a lot of good hero track trinket, but sometimes feel like transmitter handicaps me more than it benefits the 14k str

[serene vessel]

Ty, friend said it was bad. Needed 2nd opinion

[young swan]

i smiled

[south kayak]

That’s pretty funny

[lament lagoon]

Need an addon that only tracks bismuth

should i just use gathermate

[empty crest]

the orb/thing you need to stand on always spawns on your front right, so make sure theres nothing there

[shut willow]

Is there a reason the top Fury warriors pushing IO use Skarmorak/Mark over Transmitter? Is it an availability thing, or an ease of use issue?

[pseudo dawn]

U get mastery from kills also it’s. Nice

[oblique trail]

If anything it should be an availability thing

Treacherous is better than either one of them

[south kayak]

Yeah I don’t have treacherous

[shut willow]

So as someone who has a Transmitter, is it worth the time and effort to get a Shard or Mark just to have in case?

I've seen a few double on-use trinkets used for fights like Broodtwister

[meager gyro]

If you think you have the space to dance around to do your trinket use on mythic brood, be my guest

[eternal sundial]

Get either of the other 2 for brood ye

[eternal sundial]

You have like 8 seconds to pop it before ur next CDs on the boss due to how it's played with the CDs

It's not a hard transmitter boss if u do it right

[open prairie]

yk whats the biggest kick in the nuts

getting something you’ve been farming from m+

but it dropped warbound

[south kayak]

oof

eqiup it at that point lmao

[oblique trail]

I know I have this time because I've killed the boss with Transmitter

It really is not that bad

If you have Transmitter, just use that + a passive trinket, Broodtwister being an exception where 2x on-use is a good option if you run AM

Don't know if I'd argue for 2x on-use if you use RA

[meager gyro]

You always against me banezi, for just once take my side. This why our sex life not that great

[eternal sundial]

Ronin vibes

[oblique trail]

Be quiet freak

[meager gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-activate-freak-mode-jarvis-iron-man-jarvis-iron-man-freak-mode-jarvis-freak-mode-gif-4119638440159976734

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-pasta-gun-discord-gif-search-gif-23975706

[eternal sundial]

Last person that talked about banezi and sex got banned for it

Just saying

[meager gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-dog-jiggle-shake-shakinghotdog-wiggle-gif-2667969228753491770

[eternal sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1271809677264683080/critcake-warrior.gif

[open prairie]

critcake mango farmer

[polar remnant]

+1 i dig it

[meager gyro]

Wait banezi is a mod!?

[eternal sundial]

Perish

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233915177685352448/1180324886590263318/ezgif.com-gif-maker_4.gif

[pearl sequoia]

the last thing you see before going to the next life

[twilit harbor]

in terms of third craft, i assume has writhing armor banding wrists and duskthread lining cloak is effectively the same as double duskthread? seeing as it'd be doubling the benifit of the cloak's embelishment

[pearl sequoia]

i thought the same but apparently the double effect embelish doesnt work with duskthread

for some reason, quite stupid

[eternal sundial]

Dusk isnt a nerubian embell iirc

[pearl sequoia]

now that would make sense

https://tenor.com/view/brain-explosion-gif-24686375

[twilit harbor]

damn

[broken kindle]

Tbh fury playstyle is fkn nice
Just ST lacks but atleast we owning aoe-wise

Blizz stop nerfing us, ty

[eternal sundial]

St lacking is a take for sure

[pearl sequoia]

ST in M+ is pretty nice

[magic cobalt]

Hey, i have a question on my sim bladestorm should do 21mill dmg in a 4 min single target fight. I just get 9mill dmg with the same count on uses. Do i something wrong ?

[pearl sequoia]

Other classes have to sacrifice a lot to do aoe

[eternal sundial]

Sim might combine reap and bs together

[magic cobalt]

Ur right lol .. my bad 😄

[eternal sundial]

Click the arrow

(iirc it's not reap but unhinged it counts...)

[queen lagoon]

sim adds bs + the bb/bt procs together iirc

[rocky locust]

For the Bloodbound Horror, when should I cast Spell Reflection with regards to Goresplatter?
a. Right before the cast finishes
b. Right before the projectile hits me
c. After the projectile hits me, during the DoT

[barren coral]

is it just because of the shorter fights?

if so, would shittier dps also make us even shittier because they prolong the fight?

[sleek badge]

Any TWW updated Shadowmeld WA to suggest ?

Wait a sec we can dodge Dark Exile with that or it's going to cast it on someone else ?

[unreal onyx]

I think it’s on someone else but not sure

You can leap it away tho, but you will 100% die after 1 min

[cedar shuttle]

tomorrow we play thane? in M+

[unreal onyx]

Pretty good tech if boss is almost dead

[molten wing]

with the buffs you can play thane , but you are gonna lack in ST a bit compared to Slayer

[shy anvil]

is there any recommended 3rd crafted item for fury?

[molten wing]

but its gonna be more viable than before

[vivid lagoon]

That trinket from queen is so good for single target it does so much dmg

[cedar shuttle]

Does anyone have a talent tree ready for m+? for thane

[lean heart]

the spell reflect spreadsheet says u can spell reflect the Enveloping Webs on M Rashanan and it wont stun u is that confirmed?

[fresh cave]

speaking of bladestorming, you can use it to clean some webs on ulgrax if needed

[eager thorn]

You likely will prob play thane

The aoe gain is like 12% its p big

[molten wing]

its not that big of a deal at least in the space where i do keys at around 9-10

but who knows

with the changes we might end up playing AM as well , right

[errant vessel]

Can confirm

[dusty rose]

What is AM?

[errant vessel]

Anger Management

[dusty rose]

Ty

[sudden tusk]

if they add the Bloodthirst and RB changes to live and not hjust PTR then probably for keys at least

[molten wing]

oh yeah its ptr changes

[lost elbow]

Am thane?

[sleek badge]

Why usage of AM is related to BT/RB changes ?

I mean with AM we should spam more Rampage and do not overcap

[young swan]

because AM doesnt spend any time pressing CB or BB and the buffs dont effect those abilities

[sudden tusk]

specifically for M+ at least its becuase you just get a ton more ravager/Reck uses. which you can pair with Odyns every 45 seconds giving is a pack to pack profile like FDK

on top of which Thunderblast owns in AoE

but AM speficically like xan said just means you dont lose nearly as much damage by not taking Reckless Abandon in ST, and then also get the AoE benefit of AM

[sleek badge]

Looks fine tbh

So Rampage on top of prio, cuz no more BB/CB

[young swan]

only with AM, and probably no AM until 11.0.5

[sleek badge]

Alr

[sudden tusk]

Thane might be decent in keys on reset with the buffs

but ill have to actually test to know

[sleek badge]

The dps diff in ST is still giga huge no ?

[barren coral]

2%

[young swan]

not when you compare the ST from slayer aoe and the ST from thane aoe

[sudden tusk]

with the constant nerfs to slayer not nearly that bad

[smoky vale]

playing prot thane
playing fury thane

[sudden tusk]

so in Keys thane may have the advantage

[barren coral]

fr

[south kayak]

GB really shows how bad fury is

[eager thorn]

How

[sudden tusk]

whos gb

[eager thorn]

Great Britain

🇬🇧

[molten wing]

Charles made a decree that fury shall not be nerfed anymore

[lapis slate]

God bless Charlie boy

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[inner shadow]

i have a question, why does nobody other than method speak about the 3-4 quests you do to get an enchanted runed crest? (which you use to craft 619 piece) without spending your crests

<48h into the game. makes sense

[sudden tusk]

at this point in the season 619 gear is obsolete to craft so you essentially brick that slot unless you plan on upgrading it later to a gilded piece

so it was only really useful the week it was out, but would have been more useful if it was out on heroic week

[south kayak]

small pulls

use cd on one pull

then there's a big one

[inner shadow]

well yes

619 weapon

or 619 bracesr

[rocky locust]

bump

[inner shadow]

it isnt obsolete, since you actually get a free 619 crafting thingy.. without needing to use 45 of crest

[quick schooner]

You forgot about alts

[sudden tusk]

i mean kinda? you get harbinger of the runed and then upgrades only cost 10 crests

[inner shadow]

nobody queues for boralus

but for ara +3

everyone does

[inner shadow]

whatst hat?

that

[sudden tusk]

you spam 7s and get full 619 in a couple days

[inner shadow]

spam

[sudden tusk]

if your main has every slot at 619 your alts get a 33% discount in crests for upgrades

[inner shadow]

depends which calss you are

10 years of playing 0 alts

always a warrior

[quick schooner]

He mean at this point you should be 619 on all slot and you dont need 619 crest anymore which is true . But not for all and not for poeple who just leveled new alts or poeple who dont raid or do mythic plus +7 and higher

[inner shadow]

i def dont understand how does not stating it in any of the guides, seem better than actually saying it

[quick schooner]

Wtf ????? Really

I was wondering why it was cheap

I thought i was tripping

[south kayak]

Just crafted 636 weapon pog

took some time

[quick schooner]

The guide i followed google doc . It was stated from first week they even datamine the quest

[summer crater]

Wowhead posted about it some time ago

[inner shadow]

i found only method's guide

odd

[south kayak]

At what point do you get the effect on your shoulders?

from mythic

[quick schooner]

I used this . Super helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/mobilebasic

I dont think you need it snymore

[inner shadow]

damn if only i had it earlier

[quick schooner]

The doc keep updating every day

It tell you each week what to do and how to spend crest to be effective

[inner shadow]

that was so cool

[quick schooner]

Tips like the free 610 pvp gear and socket and saving keys and free crest etc etc

[prime tundra]

So basically starting from tomorrow we playing thane Fury in keys

Still no bloodthirst/rating Blow buff

[quick schooner]

Cant wait to play thane . A refreshing change

[prime tundra]

Guess thats for 11.05

[quick schooner]

To be honest i hated slayer

[prime tundra]

Kinda too. Fishing for reap the storm Is bad and doesnt really add anything

Aoe wise without CDS that sucked ass

[quick schooner]

Waiting for tank to take agro and trying to figure when is the best time to do opener is fucking disgusting . If you do it 1 sec early you steal agro and die . If you do it 1 sec later usally is fine but if you have strong burst like paladin low health adds will already be dead before you finsh your burst and your dps will get lower

[inner shadow]

juse pop enraged regen

[quick schooner]

Warrior is the best sniper in game yet the adds get sniped under your nose because of fear of geting aggro

[inner shadow]

kekw

[quick schooner]

Maybe if it have 300% dmg reduction

[inner shadow]

ik im just jk

[arctic sinew]

You pop everything the millisecond tank pulls then ask healer why he did not keep you alive

[quick schooner]

I mean you can easly delay your cd and not get aggro but for some reason delaying my cd did not sot right with me at all it felt so bad

[inner shadow]

any kind sir wanna help a boy out ?(nobody wants to queue my key)

[inner shadow]

i just charge and whirlwind

[prime tundra]

Idk i don't feel the war Aoe this strong without some CDS. I mean charge->rampage->ww then spamming bloodbath for fishing reap the storm and refreshing ww/using raging blast feels meh

[inner shadow]

the time it takes for thingsd to refresh

is always enough

[inner shadow]

fishing reap?

[arctic sinew]

with that you'll do less dps than the tank

[prime tundra]

Prio bloodbath on packs?

[inner shadow]

no?

bloodbath is 4 sec cd

[arctic sinew]

yes u do

[prime tundra]

Yeah i mean when bb Is available

[inner shadow]

how u not getting any rb cb in?

[arctic sinew]

you always prio BB over CB in aoe

[prime tundra]

You prio that

[inner shadow]

i know

but your rotation

or whatever you typed

is not it

[prime tundra]

Whats yours?

[inner shadow]

ramp bb cb rb ramp

also how do you charge and rampage?>

[prime tundra]

You Just repeat this then?

[inner shadow]

you gotta pop uburst first

[arctic sinew]

u need to reck +charge if u want to ramp on pull

[inner shadow]

ye no

that i know

[prime tundra]

Im talking Bout no cd pulls

[inner shadow]

ah

uhh

[prime tundra]

There i feel a Little bit weak aoe wise

With CDS its so much op lol

[inner shadow]

no not rly we're quite mediocre in aoe kek

also u got a 45 sec and bladestorm if well managed too

odyn's fury and bladestorm depending on procs sometimes can align

[prime tundra]

I can do with a good opener and packsize 5mil inc

[inner shadow]

burst

[prime tundra]

Something i ve never seen on my monk

For example

[prime tundra]

Ye

[inner shadow]

watch a dk keep that 2mil on going

we top the meters cuz we pop everything, then slowly fall down the ladder

[prime tundra]

Thats my exact feel with the warrior

[inner shadow]

dk got a fuckin pokemon that deals 10mil dmg wtf

[prime tundra]

Gods with CD but low sustain

[inner shadow]

sindragosa! i choose you

Singletarget even worse

[prime tundra]

And basically meme damage with zero cds

[quick schooner]

That single target build

[prime tundra]

I hate that

[inner shadow]

i just throw my spear 0.5 sec before i rampage

i always time it perfectly with enrage

since it isnt an insta cast

whats the new thane build?

[arctic sinew]

ofc it is

[prime tundra]

Thane got decent buffs

And i feels that this Is the right way for getting some more sustained aoe

[inner shadow]

what is the new rotation?

[prime tundra]

This without considering the buff to the set Pieces

And the upcoming buff to raging Blow and bloodthirst

I think we'll Need to switch to AM instead to fully benefit the changes and let RA go

[fiery ravine]

Soooo wednesday we switch to MT AM for mythic+?

[gilded pawn]

I thought it was coming in couple weeks

Not next week

[dusty rose]

Hello I'm doing Sikran Mythic today, should I play Arms instead of Fury ?

[fiery ravine]

Yes, sorry, my bad

[prime tundra]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-october-8/1977124

8 october

[fiery ravine]

But that's the mindset right now, once changes applied Mountain Thane Anger Management slaps over Slayer Reckless Abandon, right?

[prime tundra]

But the aoe cap 8->5 of dragon roar and odyn + buff to raging Blow and bloodthirst Will happen on 11.05 i guess

So i dont think its time to switch to AM yet

[fiery ravine]

Hmmm I see, thanks

[prime tundra]

Without the huge buffs to bloodthirst and raging Blow should be nosense going AM now

But im no expert there

Thats my guessings

Surely MT would be fun to try in m+

[arctic sinew]

also we need some kind of ST

[gilded pawn]

Yeah am hinges on the bt b uffs

[south kayak]

what's a close 2nd trinket to sac

[arctic sinew]

Sacbrood is so easy to farm so is it even worth thinking about the 2nd one?

unless you have every single one except sac i guess

[south kayak]

I don't have sac but I don't have anything else

I'm using sikran's

[tribal siren]

I think it's still RA build in pve.

[south kayak]

I don't like farming trinkets

so i don't wanna bother

[arctic sinew]

I'd use a delve trink over sikran's

[south kayak]

Not sure i have any decent ones

[arctic sinew]

Or if you get really unlucky with sacbrood i'd just go double on use mark/skarm/treach

[south kayak]

not sure if I'm unlucky as much as i don't wanna spam keys rn

[arctic sinew]

I mean if you want a trink you either gotta do raid or m+

[south kayak]

I wanna if I can tank 7s

would be more fun if I tank than dps

[smoky vale]

you can tank 7s easily

thats a good joke

only if you do your own key

[south kayak]

my own key isn't an ara kara 7

[arctic sinew]

It also helps that prot is insane

[south kayak]

I'm gonna see if i get invited, I only have dps on io lol

[unreal onyx]

Tanks are scarce anyway, you‘d propably be invited if your io and ilvl isn’t completely down bad

[inner shadow]

how fucked up is this

[south kayak]

You can hide all the way from the statue to the other side

if you're in that point

[south kayak]

so you could just move there

[molten wing]

during those you can stay there

at the base of the statue

[south kayak]

you can also move ahead

because the tidal surges don't hit the middle section all the way to the end

after hitting the statue

As far as I've seen

[inner shadow]

what side bro the wave came from left

[inner shadow]

on top of the statue??

[south kayak]

this spot

is safe

but you have to get back fast becuase of the other wave lol

[plucky ice]

run and leap back ez

[inner shadow]

the wave

came exactly

with the smash

so nothiong

[plucky ice]

there is room

[south kayak]

I showed you the safe spot

it's highlighted in red

[plucky ice]

[south kayak]

and tell the tank not to position himself that way

during that

lol

[molten wing]

i just sit on the base of the statue

and run circles around it

[south kayak]

you shouldn't be letting the boss use that on that place

especially if a wave is coming

[plucky ice]

trolo tank

[south kayak]

yep

[inner shadow]

pugs t

tank

also

can u sit

on top of statue??

[molten wing]

you can jump on the base of it

and run circles around it to dodge waves

especially easy if the tank comes with you too

[inner shadow]

can u show

like a vid clip

or something

not sure i udnerestand

[chrome plover]

just

jump

and walk around that circle

u cant get hit by frontal

[inner shadow]

jump on top

[chrome plover]

u can get hit by swirlies

[inner shadow]

ofthe statue

right?

[chrome plover]

u can go here

where my red arrows are

(as beerplz said)

[south kayak]

lmao

first tanking key

heal dropped it and i won roll

EZ

[sand crest]

Im 622 and still have 606 sac : (

[molten wing]

i'm 622 and i have a 580 sac

cant be arsed farming it atm

[sand crest]

same

surely 623 sac is waiting for me in vault

[smoky vale]

gz

[south kayak]

CLAPPA

[smoky vale]

I got fed a heroic sac on my aug in a 10 🙏

[south kayak]

nice

[fading sky]

lol

[smoky vale]

5 keys done in season and sac brood

[south kayak]

I won this one

healer got it

3 rolls

[fading sky]

i tanked 1 ara 8

on a whim my 2 friends join

both of them get sac ...

[south kayak]

oof

[fading sky]

i cant tell you how much that hurts

[south kayak]

that's what you get for tanking

[fading sky]

yeah 100%

[south kayak]

upgraded my weapon to 636 and got sacbrood

good day

[elder sierra]

I have hero wrists with a socket, and a crafted 2h. Cape is hero 6/6 shattered sorrow.

is my best bet to just craft a belt?

[smoky vale]

I tanked an ara kara 7 or 8 week 1 with my friend and he got the sac, I know the pain

sim it

[south kayak]

Is 2.5k io when you get the item for shoulder/helm effects?

[tired brook]

yea

[smoky vale]

I heard it was bugged but that with a grain of salt

[hidden kite]

So is everyone giving up on fury

[molten wing]

who is giving up on fury ?

[warm crag]

Everyone did you not get the memo

[warm crag]

Belt craft is a good idea here yeah

[elder sierra]

thanks chief

[shy kindle]

Hey all

[quaint elbow]

You tell me bro. Another week in, another week further down

[barren coral]

spriest above us is actually crazy

[smoky vale]

using dps parses in m+ as data is a self report

[molten wing]

s priest got buffed almost 3 times

in a roll

[barren coral]

why do people throw random statements like these

[chrome plover]

I top all my +10s therefore fury is fine

that’s my data

[warm crag]

Preach brother

[pearl sequoia]

ranked by averages

what is the average warrior

[fathom wolf]

Because they feel powerful while their CDs still can kill a pack in a 4 or 5 but as soon as you hit a 9+ and you do less dmg than a tank between your CDs and your overall looks like ass compared to a pinkman or bluman you have to cope and harass people in discord.

[south kayak]

chawie is the average warrior

[barren coral]

average warrior definitively not getting into keys

not mine at least

i decline you brutes en-masse, dont need 2 shit dps in my run

[south kayak]

[oblique trail]

The thought of not having to play with you then is good

=)

[south kayak]

damn

gottem

abused

[warm crag]

Hello banezi would you (rank 2 warrior on kyveza) like to play with me (rank 3 warrior on kyveza)

[summer crater]

Because they want to believe they know more than the data shows

[south kayak]

where were you when warriro was kill

[oblique trail]

I'm sorry I got dethroned

I'm rank 3 now on kyveza and you are rank 4 on kyveza

[warm crag]

Ending it all

[oblique trail]

I think this makes the situation a lot worse

[livid marsh]

christ, i felt it was bad during my runs but damn, thats really bad

[mossy fox]

how am i gonna beat your ranks once arms gets hit with stray nerfs on reset

[chrome plover]

toxic

im way above the average warrior

[fathom wolf]

By staying fury for the easy parse.

[oblique trail]

Get better rng

[mossy fox]

oh yeah true

15 stack jugg and never drop it

[warm crag]

How do you plead for not r1ing ovinax with zero pad specs

[smoky vale]

crit every ability 🙂

[summer crater]

So ignore the average and look at the top and realize it follows pretty much the same pattern

[mossy fox]

died to swirly in bladestorm skill issue

[warm crag]

Guilty

You are sentenced to one fury key

[molten wing]

I forsee an Arms buff

[south kayak]

I forsee death

[oblique trail]

I sentence crit to 1 Colossus key

[molten wing]

15% buff to slam
5% buff to Rend
to compensate for the nerfs

[south kayak]

what about fury buffs

[smoky vale]

no

[mossy fox]

i already did it at some point recently

i cant with its ST dps dude

[oblique trail]

I think you should go again

[mossy fox]

casual -250k ST simdps compared to slayer m+ builds

love that

[south kayak]

yo btw

is myth track 10 or 9

[oblique trail]

Fairly reasonable

It's 10

[south kayak]

fuck that

[molten wing]

10 from vault

[barren coral]

10 unforch

[south kayak]

no from me

[chrome plover]

10 btw

[south kayak]

uh oh

[molten wing]

actually getting a big excited to play AM Fury in M+ even if , its Thane , hopefully by the end of the month 11.0.5 comes out

[tardy axle]

on a typical patchwerk fight, like sikran or something, outside of the opener, do you hold your avatar / reck for bladestorm burst or just send and if it lines up it lines up and if it doesnt oh well?

[south kayak]

Well, we know it's coming out at the start of november

[oblique trail]

Send cds on cd

Or well

[molten wing]

if its only a couple of seconds next to each other maybe , but you probably just send cds when you can

[oblique trail]

To be precise, you hold BS if Avatar is ready within 10 seconds or so

[south kayak]

I'm gonna try one key with AM thane to see how it fares this reset

[tardy axle]

cos just thinking about good / bad bladestorm cd rng

[molten wing]

obviously on Sykran dont send cds as you are about to move out of the boss etc

[oblique trail]

If not, you send

[warm crag]

sykran

[oblique trail]

1:30 classes are awkward though on Sikran as at 1:30 you have to move out of melee

So you'd naturally hold a bit there

[molten wing]

i tried blasting the dummy a bit was fun no idea how it would work practically , i don't wanna do it in keys until we get the full buffs to BT/RB on top of the tierset buffs/thane buffs

[tardy axle]

so say avatar is 20 seconds off, bladestorm is up, you arnt doing any mechanics in the future and its pure damage time, do youu send bladestorm then send avatar when its up and pray the next one lines up better or do you hold?

[inner shadow]

we're 23.. for an hc.. how big?/

[warm crag]

group size doesnt matter

[tardy axle]

and are any of those hold situations also relating to odyns / roar / spear, or are those just send asap

[oblique trail]

You send the BS unless you know the fight will end before you'd get another BS off

[south kayak]

They what they always say..

[oblique trail]

If its the last casts of a fight, for example it'll die within 30 seconds in that situation, you'd hold till Ava + Spear

[warm crag]

noober

[south kayak]

They need to remove challenger’s peril

[oblique trail]

But general rule of thumb is just to send on CD unless good reason not to otherwise, which you'll know from experience and knowing the fight

[south kayak]

Terrible affix

[warm crag]

gamers when theres appropriate punishment for dying in timed content

Wtf!!!!

[south kayak]

The appropriate punishment is dying in the first place

Why increase it?

[mossy fox]

Is the hit survivable with all cds

[warm crag]

cause you just release or get rezzed and literally nothing changes

[mossy fox]

i dont know how much it does

[warm crag]

now you actually gotta care about surviving

[oblique trail]

Good question but I'm not gonna try it, nice try

[mossy fox]

test it for me pls banezi

[tardy axle]

just call healers shit if they dont chuck a barkskin on you or something

[molten wing]

@warm crag ngl the difficulty curve is R-worded atm , if anything Challengers Peril should start at 12 where people actually start pushing

[oblique trail]

You will be my sheep

Go test it

[south kayak]

Sure but you don’t think it’s a little too hard?

The learning curve is dumb

[warm crag]

i think the knockback is the bigger problem

[south kayak]

Especially at 12 keys

[oblique trail]

Charge back noober

[warm crag]

you leave charge territory like instantly then youre just gone

[warm crag]

you can time every key with a full wipe

[south kayak]

Last season people could push well into 20s keys

[warm crag]

thats roughly the difficulty i deem appropriate

[south kayak]

Nowadays it’s like 14?

[tardy axle]

people are already at the equiv of 28's

[south kayak]

What’s the highest timed key

[tardy axle]

14 iirc

[south kayak]

See, it’s ridiculous

[tardy axle]

so 28 in old system

[south kayak]

The scaling gets too high at this point

[oblique trail]

Well yeah because it's way different then and now?

[mossy fox]

maybe just insta cancel the knock with leap

or more likely, insta cancel your cds by dying to the hit

[molten wing]

its a bit weird , the jumo from 9 to 10 , and then from 11-12 seems pretty steep

[warm crag]

i think if you're gonna go to this level of cooking you can just start actually playing the mechanic

[molten wing]

which is probably what they wanted

[south kayak]

I understand it’s different but I feel like the jump from some keys is stupid

[molten wing]

but considering the game is mostly made of casuals

[south kayak]

Like 7s shouldn’t have peril

[molten wing]

Peril has to start at 12 for me

[chrome plover]

box they changed key scaling

in s4 dragonflight

[south kayak]

And we should be getting gilded way before 9

[mossy fox]

playing the mechanic means leaving boss during cds or holding cds until after

[warm crag]

okay but its still a profoundly stupid argument to say "last season they pushed 20s now they push 14s" when they pushed down key levels to do just that

[south kayak]

I know

[chrome plover]

a 10 is the same as a 20 from before

[mossy fox]

i wonder if you get an extra set of cds now anyway if you send on cd

[south kayak]

I am aware lol

[mossy fox]

prolly not

[pseudo marlin]

everyone lets just uninstall WoW and switch to playing minecraft

[warm crag]

dont think so

[pseudo marlin]

WoW is dead too difficult

[oblique trail]

Think the kill timer without looking is already to the point where you won't gain or lose by doing it

[chrome plover]

you said it's ridiculous that the highest timed key is a 14

i really dont think that's ridiculous

[south kayak]

Last season had the same system

[mossy fox]

i do think the difficulty spikes feel bad in m+ rn

[south kayak]

And it was well into 20s

[pseudo marlin]

the season just started everyones undergeared

[oblique trail]

On my most recent kill it was 4:47 kill timer

So yeah

[south kayak]

No they aren’t lol, especially ones pushing 14s now

[pseudo marlin]

last season gave u gear for free

because u kill boss and get bronze shit

[warm crag]

wow players when they must complete (not time!) difficult content to get the strongest equipment in the game

[oblique trail]

It's basically edging on getting the last CDs if you were to greed and somehow live

[molten wing]

it was not the same system, last season still had tyrannical/fortified rotation weekly etc

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/tantrum-kicking-gif-23507491

wrong gif

i meant this one

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-bodybuilder-pecs-black-pec-bounce-gif-1076301405568312554

[arctic sinew]

That was a throwaway season tho like every s4

[south kayak]

Can you stop with the “when” memes lol

[warm crag]

too personal?

[mossy fox]

10s seem more difficult than usual, doesnt matter much to me but still I get that it's not as accessible as 20s used to be with the old system

[molten wing]

this time around you hit 12 you get for/tyra and a 20% hp/dmg increase on everything

[pseudo marlin]

why compare last season to s1 twe

df s1 was also hard

[inner shadow]

nope

not as hard

[quartz tulip]

my boomkin doing way more damage than warrior in keys now

[inner shadow]

as this

[chrome plover]

no it wasnt

[south kayak]

No, its just annoying not talking like a normal person

[quartz tulip]

and my 602 ilvl fdk doing more too

kekleons

[inner shadow]

i was getting invited to 20s!

[warm crag]

idk i think its a pretty humorous way to convey my point

[inner shadow]

now not even +7s

[arctic sinew]

+10s now feel waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than +20s in both df s1 and df s3

[pseudo marlin]

just ggo tank

and loot offspec

[mossy fox]

and yeah 12+ key scaling is particularly tough. I think the % increase per key level is just too much

[warm crag]

i can see how itd not be as funny if i was the person being painted in the picture constantly

[molten wing]

Spongie we get your point , stop trying to push it

it was funny the first time around

now its just repeating shit

[warm crag]

im doing it to entertain myself you fool

[eternal sundial]

Me when i make fun of people and they dont like it

[mossy fox]

i can definitely see the next TGP being every team stuck at the same key level, but just going for time tiebreakers

[eternal sundial]

[pearl sequoia]

the 20% affix is pretty brutal, should maybe go 5% up to 20% the higher the key

[barren coral]

what was the max key on the old system

[warm crag]

junkyard 30s but that key doesnt count

[barren coral]

thsi is the first xpac where i actually care about m+, in old system think best ive done was like a +11

[eternal sundial]

35

JY xdd

TGP tho

[barren coral]

and looking back at it, its genuinely unbelievable people used to brick my keys in an old +5

[warm crag]

same way people "brick" heroic dungeons nowadays

[eternal sundial]

People have always been shit

It doesnt get better u only dont play with them anymore

[barren coral]

i fought 3rd boss NW for no joke 15 mins

[warm crag]

@eternal sundial did u see kyveza arms obliteration

[barren coral]

not a brick but hilarious how no one could read

[warm crag]

i mean yeah people dont read cause they're hypercasual and thats fine

[barren coral]

its not fine to be training the same boss for 15 mins :/

[warm crag]

just as they are free to enjoy the game they want to play you are to leave the group

[barren coral]

i literally get a deserter debuff?

so no thats not the intended choice

[warm crag]

you signed up for it when you queued it

[barren coral]

no i didnt

[warm crag]

you did when you pressed the queue button

[barren coral]

no

[warm crag]

you cant really say no and just expect something to change

[inner shadow]

this is going to be fun

[tired brook]

U know the groups about to be fire when everyone’s on a random ass low pop server

[barren coral]

well youre giving out unbelievable expectations to what a normal heroic dungeon is supposed to be like with no complaints

[warm crag]

all im saying is that if you queue matchmade content you're kind of expected to finish it lol

[eternal sundial]

i didnt see the kill or log

[old coral]

is this normal at least?

[eternal sundial]

Beyond the one execute misshap

[eternal sundial]

Ive healed a full normal with less ilvl itll be fine

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981140009091075/1292567177257422868/image.png?ex=6704dd3d&is=67038bbd&hm=8aa9c6f7c57bdbf352a7d6a1c95539744c4ea230b5352d80ec8e0c4009408b54&

fucked up log

[barren coral]

and thats fine, but not knowing and refusing to read a text line in front of the boss youre killing are very different things

everyone involved is suppoedly wanting to finish the dungeon

[eternal sundial]

What dps did u do in the end

[warm crag]

idk man you're playing with people who returned after an 8+ hour work day and just want to press buttons

[eternal sundial]

Spongus 2 millionus

[warm crag]

1.2 billion (million) dps