fury

[rotund ginkgo]

wym all conetnt

content

u can get 4p without even doing m+

[smoky vale]

Im not doing all content either?

[eager thorn]

ye but we're talking about hero gear

some ppl arent good enough for 7s

[rotund ginkgo]

so he can do delves

[eager thorn]

or as the avg warrior here says they're 3k io and dont get into 7s

[rotund ginkgo]

and spam to get maps

real

[warm crag]

you save no crests from a 2h mythic vault pick

[rotund ginkgo]

"im 3.5k rio and full 6s, i cant get inv to 7s. why?"

[kindred swallow]

Every time i have a 6 key i do it and demote back to 5

[smoky vale]

because you arent tanking

[warm crag]

you should be crafting a 636 weapon anyways so any mythic 2h that drops only costs 15 crests to max

[rotund ginkgo]

i had a 619 trinket and grabbed a 626 trinket so i had a free upgrade when i got my brood

[warm crag]

from vault?

[rotund ginkgo]

yh :3

[eager thorn]

i never got any gear from maps that can be catalysed

[kindred swallow]

O have been using crests and valorstones to upgrade my gear but yeah

[eager thorn]

just got rings trink n neck

[warm crag]

no mythic tier or catalyzable pieces in there, no potential socket pick for bracers?

[rotund ginkgo]

me?

[smoky vale]

i think the only option is to do your own key or join pugs as a tank if you want to gear if you arent getting invited as dps

[warm crag]

or belt

just checked your gear

you crafted cloak ew

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

[dim wadi]

cuz no 1 wants a shit warrior on mythic+ i deny u all dogss

[smoky vale]

:3

[dim wadi]

ur AOE damage suck DICKS

[smoky vale]

True

[rotund ginkgo]

9 ilvl upgrade+let me equip my myth track socket bracers

[smoky vale]

evenmore so when its a dps warrior

[warm crag]

did you have a key mistimed by a warrior or whats this about lol

[rotund ginkgo]

+i am not getting raid cloak any time soon

[warm crag]

craft belt

[smoky vale]

Fuck you, if I cant dps, neither can you

[rotund ginkgo]

i hope u die spongie :3

[warm crag]

why wouldnt you get first boss cloak its omega bis for you

[smoky vale]

:3

[rotund ginkgo]

BECAUSE IM NOT GETTING ANY FUCKING LOOT SPONGIE

IS WHY

[smoky vale]

[warm crag]

noob lol

is this some second warrior situation or is your lootcouncil just bad

[rotund ginkgo]

THEY GAVE MYTH TRACK HELMET TO THE DK

BDK

ITS BOTH

[warm crag]

find a new guild or

[rotund ginkgo]

I HAVENT WON A SINGLE ITEM THAT IS CONTENDED BY OTHER PLAYERS

EVERY SINGLE ITEM I WON WAS A "YEAH HE CAN HAVE IT"

[eager thorn]

LOL

[rotund ginkgo]

NO ONE NEEDS WRISTS SO I GET THEM

[dim wadi]

ENJOY THE NERFS U CUNTS

[rotund ginkgo]

@dim wadi why are u so weird

[eager thorn]

are you okay fella

[dim wadi]

like right now no 1 want u dogs after NERFS DUMB CLASS IN TRASH

hahahaha

[rotund ginkgo]

guess a warrior bricked his 6 or some shit

[eager thorn]

LMFAO

[rotund ginkgo]

or didnt trade him sacbrood on a 7

[dim wadi]

NAH I DONT INVITE SHIT WARRIORSS AGAIN UR AOE DAMAGE IS TRASH AF

[rotund ginkgo]

lmao

[eager thorn]

the funny thing is it isnt trash

[rotund ginkgo]

he got kicked

it is trash though

[warm crag]

drop your character

[eager thorn]

idk if id say trash is the right word

[fickle bluff]

gone already

[warm crag]

hes still in ravenholdt i might ping him to drop his character

[rotund ginkgo]

ravenholdt is rogue?

[teal lagoon]

balls have to drop first

[rotund ginkgo]

trash is the right word

[barren coral]

our aoe might be trash

but our st is even worse

[rotund ginkgo]

i literally do below tank dps if the tank makes a pull with 3+mobs and he has even ONE offensive cd up

[warm crag]

warr st is really good in keys what are you saying

[rotund ginkgo]

in keys its ait

[eager thorn]

tank is just on x games mode

[smoky vale]

:gigachad:

?

[rotund ginkgo]

i havent felt strong on m+ st since the 3% nerf

just felt okay

[smoky vale]

no more gigachad 😦

[warm crag]

and i win every st boss trivially

[rotund ginkgo]

nw11 first pack is where we shine

[warm crag]

crazy how that works

[rotund ginkgo]

@warm crag playing w padders

surely

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-type-gif-24052524

[warm crag]

idk maybe press your buttons

[rotund ginkgo]

i cant

[sand crest]

first boss of dawnbreaker on a 10

ez

[rotund ginkgo]

nah 600k is abyssmal

ur even giving them 5%

[delicate thicket]

any1 has their bladestorm weakaura bugged with this cdr?

[sand crest]

I dont have a bladestorm weakaura

[warm crag]

ye weakauras doesnt handle cdr + cd reductions like mfe well

[eager thorn]

do ppl not just have the cooldown on the button when they press it

[delicate thicket]

so no quick fix then I guess

[warm crag]

swap to actionbars for bladestorm or just handle it its only once every like 4 weeks on key levels that matter where this bug comes out

[delicate thicket]

actionbars hidden @eager thorn

[eager thorn]

ew

[sand crest]

hidden action bars is crazy

[warm crag]

hidden action bars is normal you muppets

[delicate thicket]

yeah so crazy

open a single wow stream

[eager thorn]

didnt say it wasnt normal

[delicate thicket]

and you'll see it

[warm crag]

look at any good players ui

[eager thorn]

just said its gross

[sand crest]

you mightve killed halondrus on prog if u didnt have ur action bars hidden :/

[lavish mauve]

Do you Guys play passive trinkets this week?

[warm crag]

i dont have them hidden!

[delicate thicket]

you can play with action bars serving as your weakauras but you don't get any additional functionality with it

[rotund ginkgo]

i do

[lavish mauve]

It feels so awkward that trinkets differ from the cdr rn

[eager thorn]

i mean i can see my bs cd on action bars lmao

[sand crest]

then why argue for the enemy

: (

[eager thorn]

seems like some additional functionality

[warm crag]

because i might aswell hide them

[delicate thicket]

yeah great functionality for this single situation when the shit is bugged

[warm crag]

theyre tiny and stowed away

[quick zodiac]

Not doing over 800 in a 10 ST should be banable

[eager thorn]

ok but you said theres no functionality

and i showed some immediately that helps the issue ur having

[warm crag]

less computation intensive i believe

[sand crest]

I mean theres intermission downtime on that boss but yeah its bad

[rotund ginkgo]

just run 12s

[warm crag]

actionbars usually kind of just do what package weakauras do for you anyways

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[summer quail]

594, how??? what ilvl is that guy

[warm crag]

but you gotta redo what actionbars do in package weakauras

[sand crest]

theyre both 624, im 622

[rotund ginkgo]

i timed a db10 with a 580 vdh tank

i showed it to my friend and he refused to believe

[eager thorn]

ye i just used a wa pack to see how people set up action bars and then just did it on bartender in like 10 mins

[rotund ginkgo]

and it was week 1 too

[teal lagoon]

wait bugged how? just reports wrong cd or what

[rotund ginkgo]

yes

[teal lagoon]

[slim grotto]

@warm crag are you running the m+ slayer aoe spec in 10keys? How are you doing so much ST?

[warm crag]

my pc is good enough to where i dont care and i can play with details enabled on ovinax and i want my buttons to do funny shit like the anda owo mortal strike weakaura

but trying to optimize your ui by cutting shit weakauras is a real concern

[warm crag]

idk fury kind of just naturally is one of the best st specs in m+

everyone else loses insane st damage to spec their aoe shit

[rotund ginkgo]

@warm crag

kekw

[sand crest]

big agree

[rotund ginkgo]

nearly a +2 as well

[warm crag]

holy that tank is crazy

[eager thorn]

tbh im more surprised you timed it with ppl being that close to 610

[slim grotto]

teach me. Cleave I've mastered, I'm just so dogshit at ST

[rotund ginkgo]

yh i know the dude we ran some 29s in season 3 way before they were ezmode

[summer quail]

that's just sad(unless they died orsomething)

[warm crag]

idk press your cds on the boss and then play your rotation there really isnt much to this

[delicate thicket]

I mean if u dont have ur cds ready for boss

[rotund ginkgo]

i had rank 4 upper doti

[warm crag]

your bossdamage will look lower if you are a muppet and save your cds for ages

[delicate thicket]

you only get 1 set

if you have them on pull you get to to cds in p1 and p2

[sand crest]

only death during the fight was the tank during beams

he got cr'd

[quick zodiac]

Well tanking that one is a joke tbh, only real tank hits is beam first boss and slam second

[rotund ginkgo]

yes that literally 1shot my 620 vdh friend

[quick zodiac]

And u can easily rotate cds for everyone

[rotund ginkgo]

granted he played another build

and isnt a tank player

[summer quail]

i'm not saying anything against the fury dps. can't have the cd excuse when you do 594k st

[rotund ginkgo]

but doing a 10 on a 580 is still big

[delicate thicket]

yeah its fine but that probably has somethign to do with it

[quick zodiac]

Idk dh personally

[rotund ginkgo]

plus playing it as vdh

[quick zodiac]

I play guardian but I tanked a 9db at like 598

[rotund ginkgo]

ok, so tank a 10 on 580

[quick zodiac]

Had no problems during tyran

[rotund ginkgo]

thats 20 ilvl diff and +1 key diff

[quick zodiac]

Well I don’t main tank

[rotund ginkgo]

+stronger tank

[quick zodiac]

This guy prolly did

[rotund ginkgo]

if u cant appreciate doing nearly +2ing a db10 as a 580 ilvl VDH

on week 1

with no tier

[quick zodiac]

So much stuff that could have happend was he premade with the heal?

[rotund ginkgo]

and ass trinkets

nope

full pug

i know the dude

[delicate thicket]

ok new weakaura made

[warm crag]

wait you just saw a 581 dh tank time a 10 and you went "i timed that key on 9 with 20 ilvls ontop of that" and went this is a joke ???

[quick zodiac]

Ofc I appreciate it

Never Said he did bad

[rotund ginkgo]

clearly not if u say "well its a joke of a key"

[quick zodiac]

All I am saying is that it is a joke of a key ?

It still is lol

[tidal kindle]

Spongie carry me my last 1.5 lvls

Ty

[warm crag]

i do not think so

[quick zodiac]

It is still insane that he did it at 580

[tidal kindle]

O ok

[rotund ginkgo]

i dont think u understand this isnt just a "580"

[tidal kindle]

What if I said it's on EU....

[sand crest]

one other thing I love about fury is how stupidly tanky we are, I just dont need that much healing

[quick zodiac]

But the key stays the same

[warm crag]

what are you doing on EU noober? stay on NA you rwf winner noob

[eager thorn]

eu best

[rotund ginkgo]

we nearly +2d it
he did it with dog trinkets, no tier at all
there was NO communication, full pug

[tidal kindle]

You guys have better healthcare

(Aka healers)

[warm crag]

damn

[tidal kindle]

[warm crag]

i wish

[rotund ginkgo]

i just know he survives cuz i ran keys w him in s3

[quick zodiac]

Does he main tank ?

[rotund ginkgo]

yes ofc

[lavish mauve]

Reset is almost there

Pog

[rotund ginkgo]

he plays both tank dps

but he plays mostly tank nowadays

[warm crag]

i dstance spellreflect healthstone every charge i take on kyveza and still die (with 5 healers)

[quick zodiac]

Ye so the key is dog

Most people can’t do that but still 580 should die the key is kekw

Still insane gameplay

[slim grotto]

What is everyone’s overall damage in a 10key @ ~620il?

[rotund ginkgo]

idk like 4

maybe 5

[eager thorn]

i just got declined from a 7 i think im going to spirit res irl

[warm crag]

idk i think the normal response is "wow that guy tanked a 10 on a 580 character!" not "the key is dog ofc he can do it!!!"

[rotund ginkgo]

mudslap at 4.5k rio declined from a +6

[warm crag]

get a grip

[eager thorn]

.<

[rotund ginkgo]

@warm crag ur so real queen

[eager thorn]

i really just want this fucking ring already so i can go back to doing 1 10 a week and raid logging

[quick zodiac]

Well what he did was insane, no need to ride his meat for it like rag tho

[rotund ginkgo]

hes literally my friend

regardless of that, id still meatride that

[eager thorn]

sounds like more than a friend if ur riding meat

[ripe tangle]

where is the masterclass guide on slayer for M+?

[rotund ginkgo]

ur so real mud

ill meatride u too

[eager thorn]

😳

[quick zodiac]

I could never fking do it I am a bad ass tank… bro is literally insane all I said was the key is kinda meh

If it was gb I’d fk him dry no cap

[eager thorn]

?

[rotund ginkgo]

he could do it on gb as well

[warm crag]

ya idk if you know this but when we witness something cool we dont first try to deconstruct the achievement

[rotund ginkgo]

matter of fact lemme check

ah no he didnt do any gb on this char

[quick zodiac]

Think tanking is mostly about the tank tbh

Gear helps A LOT

But mostly the player

[slim grotto]

Spongie what is your dps on ST (in m+ cleave spec) and what is your ilvl?

[rotund ginkgo]

me when im missing the point

[rotund ginkgo]

what a weird question

what boss?

what comp?

[warm crag]

idk and 626

[rotund ginkgo]

spongie ur gapping me cuz of the 4 ilvls I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

(im bad and coping)

[warm crag]

i have more things going for me than 4 ilvls

[rotund ginkgo]

having more bitches doesnt count

[slim grotto]

Didn’t realize it has that much impact. What comp do we want? (Besides Aug)

[warm crag]

i have exodia of the super rares i sim higher than anda who has like 2 ilvls on me

[rotund ginkgo]

u got queen mandate no?

[warm crag]

ye

[rotund ginkgo]

this cvnt

[warm crag]

i mean you should have it too

if you dont at this point with organized splits or even organized clears you should find a new guild

[rotund ginkgo]

unironically it didnt drop yet

[warm crag]

lol

rolled

[eager thorn]

dont do splits but i havent seen it yet

[rotund ginkgo]

it be like that

we barely saw any big drops

[warm crag]

do you have helpers at least or are you rawdogging 20-25 man hcs

[rotund ginkgo]

i think we did it 30man this week

[warm crag]

idk man im no authority on m+ or aware of the meta

[rotund ginkgo]

bro is jumping on it

[warm crag]

i timed all my 10s and will not be pushing further than that

[eager thorn]

chad

[rotund ginkgo]

(he has an aug called Spongiewings and its full 12s)

[warm crag]

true

[slim grotto]

I was just looking for a reference point tbh

[rotund ginkgo]

Spongievoker as a name

[warm crag]

watch a crit or noxiv stream would be my suggestion

[rotund ginkgo]

hard or nah?

[quick zodiac]

I regret me going Fury so fking hard tho

[final birch]

2 dropped, 2 hunters got it - im not salty, I got other good trinkets so good for them

[quick zodiac]

It is so hard playing Fury+ raid lead idk my brain cant

[final birch]

Havent seen cape drop yet

[warm crag]

they most certainly have vods to check out

[quick zodiac]

Getting old

[final birch]

And ive seen 1 hc sikran neck in diff split group

[slim grotto]

Will do ty

[tidal kindle]

[rotund ginkgo]

i cant imagine fury raidleading

[eager thorn]

i got cape and sikran neck from vaults :)

[warm crag]

holy shit

[rotund ginkgo]

its over

[warm crag]

no G-spec suffix joke tho :(

[quick zodiac]

Nah it is pretty painful.. But I do love Fury tho

[warm crag]

Gaug would go hard

[summer quail]

first critcake rerolled now you...

[rotund ginkgo]

Gevoker

Gripcake went hard

gotta give it to him

[slim grotto]

Critcake M+ on DK…what the shit is this treason

[tidal kindle]

HOPLY

[quick zodiac]

His dmg on that dk is so insane for being like 612 ilvl

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean isnt there also Critmage from s2?

[quick zodiac]

Actually mad how broken they are atm

[restive granite]

im afraid to log him in

[warm crag]

there was critlock aswell

[rotund ginkgo]

ur so real

[summer quail]

and critmage

[proud vessel]

Is transmitter trinket BiS for M+ also?

[warm crag]

ye

[rotund ginkgo]

critmage

insane to me that critmage legit had timed 25s

and 26s

[quick zodiac]

It is so crazy how people push keys

[rotund ginkgo]

wym?

[quick zodiac]

As someone who mostly pug and or play with 1-2 friends

[rotund ginkgo]

just time the keys

[quick zodiac]

Crazy as in how good you guys are

[rotund ginkgo]

devious last couple days from urs truly

[quick zodiac]

Chad

[jolly mist]

cooking

[quick zodiac]

I did all 10s first week

But gb

[warm crag]

guys im getting declined from every key i apply to? i have 2.6k score this is bullshit !!!!!!

[quick zodiac]

And kinda stopped trying to do 11s cuz I cba pugging

[warm crag]

(only applying to 10 ara karas that already have tanks and healers)

[tidal kindle]

Gaugtuah

[rotund ginkgo]

spongie have u tried raising ur score to 3k first?

[tidal kindle]

Voke on that thang

[rotund ginkgo]

@tidal kindle sit in the corner rn

talk tuah lookin ahh

[warm crag]

voke on that thing is vile

mind beams you

[rotund ginkgo]

she thunderblast my avatar til i lightning strike and make her thunderous roar

[proud vessel]

So we want transmitter + shard or mark?

[quick zodiac]

Ara trinket is also pretty pog

[rotund ginkgo]

double on use?

[warm crag]

idk if double on use is meta

[rotund ginkgo]

cant imagine it is

[warm crag]

it is extremely good and might take the meta with AM

[rotund ginkgo]

yh gonna have it every pack

:3

[warm crag]

self report that you havent fought ovinax

[rotund ginkgo]

with cds

[rotund ginkgo]

i dont run that on ovinax either wym

[warm crag]

are you dumb

[rotund ginkgo]

tbh this raid so far has been depressing

or rather just ovinax ig

idk

i just want the fight to end

[quick zodiac]

Well for being a 5th fight that guy is fking insane

[warm crag]

maybe the fight would end if you actually researched optimal trinket setups for fury warriors on that fight

[rotund ginkgo]

our other warr is playing RA

[warm crag]

i played RA

its not wrong based on your comp

[rotund ginkgo]

ovinax btw

u fucking manchild

[warm crag]

yeah no one can be bothered to farm skarmorak

[rotund ginkgo]

wym just get skarmorak

i have it

:3

[warm crag]

yeah use treach skarm if you have it

[summer quail]

can see it for m+. transmitter+shard/mark might be incredibly good. Just hope not personally

[warm crag]

commune with some divine being on what to use instead of treach if you dont have it

[warm crag]

why not

you legit just sync up cds with your cd sets

[rotund ginkgo]

not a SINGLE warrior is playing RA

on that fight

[summer quail]

coz then i wasted my vault on eggsac

[eager thorn]

i got skarm by accident helping a friend sv 7

[rotund ginkgo]

real

[warm crag]

not a single parsing warrior is playing RA on that fight

[tidal kindle]

If you need boss damage

You can play RA

[quick zodiac]

This^

All depends on the comp

[warm crag]

you should know how bad of an indicator top 100 logs is especially after rashanan

[quick zodiac]

Just optimize with the raid team you have

[warm crag]

me and @gleaming siren ran it cause reck rng for the first set sucked and we had 3 fdks

[rotund ginkgo]

are there over 100 guilds on 5/8 rn?

[quick zodiac]

160

[warm crag]

sounds accurate yeah

[quick zodiac]

Last I checked

[rotund ginkgo]

ye theres 183

[warm crag]

ovinax became a joke with the swirly and boss hp nerfs

[quick zodiac]

So it is getting nerfed again

[tidal kindle]

Swirly nerfs don't matter

[quick zodiac]

Soon prob

[tidal kindle]

When they're still invisible and double up

[warm crag]

true

can tank singles tho!

[tidal kindle]

True!

[rotund ginkgo]

i got hit by 4 swirlies once

and my rl said

[tidal kindle]

Like the only swirlies I get hit

[rotund ginkgo]

"pop defensive"

[tidal kindle]

And subsequently die to

[rotund ginkgo]

it was legit 4 hits in 0.0s

[tidal kindle]

Are either under boss during egg break/getting kick

Or invis through dk effects

[warm crag]

i had timelessness and got meleed 6 times in our kill night which was like 10-20 pulls

[tidal kindle]

[quick zodiac]

”Just pot”

[rotund ginkgo]

boss shouldnt be able to spawn swirlies under him

i said what i said

[quick zodiac]

Ragish benched

[tidal kindle]

Should be able to dust boss

[quick zodiac]

YEP

[tidal kindle]

A change no one asked for and no one liked

[rotund ginkgo]

ill dust u garm

[quick zodiac]

Hate his fat ass

Same with mists last boss

[rotund ginkgo]

fuck did i do

[warm crag]

melees that arent dks just uniquely have to deal with unfair swirlies on that boss

it is what it is

[quick zodiac]

Did not pop defensive 🫣

[rotund ginkgo]

last boss in mists is a bit better, its just ass that the puddles hide under the swamp texture kekw

[tidal kindle]

One of our Dks in deathj log

Took 4 spider melees

No death strike

I die to 1

[rotund ginkgo]

LMAO

[warm crag]

my tank died to quadruple swirlies cause he tabbed out mid pull to look at the next marker set

i love him so much

[tidal kindle]

Tabbed out?

[rotund ginkgo]

make a gofundme and get him 2nd monitor

[quick zodiac]

Tank without second monitor

[warm crag]

ye hes a 1 screen gamer

[quick zodiac]

Oh ma

[tidal kindle]

Pull it up on his phone

[warm crag]

hes not a tank player

[rotund ginkgo]

im a 1screen gamer too

:3

[warm crag]

a victim of the circumstances (he knows how to tank and owns a dk)

[untold yacht]

hi need help, should I craft using 90 gilded crests 636 bracers from 619 or put the crest into 1/6 mythic tier shoulders using 75 crest and having 639?

real problem

[rotund ginkgo]

dont craft bracers 636

get ur shoulders to 639

[untold yacht]

ok so upgrade mythic 1/6 shoulders to 639?

[rotund ginkgo]

yes

[untold yacht]

thanks 🙂

[fading bane]

only upgrade crafted gear to 636 if you have no slots to spend crests on

[rotund ginkgo]

i cant imagine a sim where 619>636 bracers outsims 623>639 shoulders

[untold yacht]

yeah im after a long break from wow so was wondering

ty

[warm crag]

what if the shoulders are cloth

another ragish L in public

[fading bane]

massive L

[eager thorn]

:/

[quick zodiac]

Rip same

Thought weap brac was bis

Unlucky Ig

[rotund ginkgo]

huge L

[warm crag]

it is bis but you should upgrade bracer like dead last

[rotund ginkgo]

spongie is literally my biggest hater

[rotund ginkgo]

real and true

[warm crag]

and if u loot socketed wrist then u craft belt instead

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gif-5394791839932995860

me vs spongie whenever a minor situation occurs in skyhold

(we both have autism)

[ivory ingot]

[eager thorn]

p sure my wrists before i crafted were like 606

so iiwii to me

and still 0 mythic kills so no myth loot to upgrade

[restive granite]

so are we playing thane starting reset for M+, or its still dogshit until the anniversary patch notes hit?

[gleaming siren]

Yo I got mentioned by one of my favorite warrior players

[delicate thicket]

@restive granite just try it out see wassup

sims fine now

[eager thorn]

thane will be better in m+

[barren coral]

do we not cast thunder roar in ST?

[warm crag]

ofc you do

[tidal kindle]

Garmdecay thoughts

Or Idecaygarm

[barren coral]

so whats wowhead smokin

[warm crag]

this is the correct st opener in st spec

which doesnt talent roar

[warm crag]

Gfrost

[barren coral]

ohh kk

[warm crag]

what does this button do

[tidal kindle]

That's not garm related or g-punny

[warm crag]

true

Gunholy is weird

[hardy cargo]

gamyoftheded

garmy*

[warm crag]

garmy is good

[tidal kindle]

Garmy is taken somehow

Garmie just isn't the same

[hardy cargo]

garmpocalypse

[tidal kindle]

Too long

idkgarm/ garmdecay only real ones avail

[eager thorn]

i still think garmsageddon is fire

just a bit of a stretch on the dk relation

[warm crag]

at least do garmageddon that at least flows

[tidal kindle]

Maybe it's an Origarmy angle

Kinda works I guess?

[hardy cargo]

u can always just ask chapgpt too

[eager thorn]

nah thats L move

[warm crag]

origarmy has flair

[eager thorn]

making name is fun n creative, shouldn't delegate it to ai

what about garmthas

[tidal kindle]

L

No name copying

[eager thorn]

fair

[tidal kindle]

Too easy otherwise

Origarmy it is

[eager thorn]

you miss every shot you dont take

[tidal kindle]

[eager thorn]

stormforged have too much power being able to use emojis

[warm crag]

[tawdry lily]

doesn't hold a candle to hemoflowbin.....

[radiant plank]

deadgarm

just like warrior

[smoky vale]

i dont know 🙂

[tidal kindle]

Also Gevoker is taken

It's G-over

[eager thorn]

what about garmamander

evokers are p much salamanders

[tidal kindle]

Actually true

I had garmander as my mage but you make a compelling case

[slim coral]

THey need to add a samurai in wow

[eager thorn]

wish i could throw out names this easily for myself

samurai is kinda just rogue warrior mix

[slim coral]

yeah I just want a class like yone

in wow

[eager thorn]

ok i was with you until you brought him up

could just play smf

with katana mogs

[slim coral]

IMaigne having his ult tho

in a group of ads

[eager thorn]

would be pretty sick

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/yone-guni-gunizone-gif-25806014

[eager thorn]

why dont they just give warrior that ability

call it reckless charge or some shit

and now prot can aoe grip mobs

[slim coral]

[tidal kindle]

I could do

Garmyvore

[golden hare]

vore...

[slim coral]

for the evoker?

[eager thorn]

good sleep token song

[tidal kindle]

Garmevoke is too bland

Was for DK

[eager thorn]

idk if you saw when i said yesterday but i think garmsgoyle is p good

but if fdk prob doesnt work

[tidal kindle]

Yah

[slim coral]

Grost

[tidal kindle]

[slim coral]

[tidal kindle]

It's my Thirst reaper's name in lost ark

Or hunger on NA servers

[golden hare]

concerning...

[tidal kindle]

Death strike/blooddrinker/vamp blood theme fits kinda

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid marsh]

quick question regarding the upcoming changes, to quote archimtiros he said " ~2% behind in single target with a multitarget build" on regards to the thane buffs for fury, is this comparing slayer multitarget to thane multitarget on a single target?

[tidal kindle]

Yes

[livid marsh]

aight so overall better damage profile in multitarget but having a bit less ST for m+

[slim coral]

yeah we're headed into a moutain thane arc

[livid marsh]

dont mind that too much, alltho i still hate ravager since its initial release

[jaunty sapphire]

it'll be like this for all hero talents for all classes

one will inevitably be better than the other and the balance will shift w time

[eager thorn]

ravager sounds nicer to me cos you get to keep pressing buttons

but also i do like going afk for 4s mid raid when i bs

[livid marsh]

i would just get rid of it alltogether

[jaunty sapphire]

the 4 secs afk of bladestorm is the best fury change in years

my carpal tunnel needs a break lmfao

[hardy cargo]

with hasted bs this isnt a problem

[eager thorn]

its not a problem at all

its a good thing

[jaunty sapphire]

lmao

[eager thorn]

i said i like going afk not that i hate it

perfect time to scratch my nose if it gets itchy or smth

[hardy cargo]

oh I misread im silly

[glossy burrow]

i once had a bs that was so fast that i thought i never pressed it

[hardy cargo]

this on 2nd monitor while i conform and level frost magus

[eager thorn]

disgusting

[livid marsh]

legion fury, best times

[eager thorn]

2 ice classes and you chose the stinky one

[glossy burrow]

legion fury was best

[hardy cargo]

frost is actually insanely fun xdd

good procs ive had 5 frozen orbs out at once

[glossy burrow]

the execute phase 🤌

[livid marsh]

give me back my execute phase

pressing execute in tww feels like a waste of a gcd

[young glacier]

Guldan trinket 😋

And elissande

[rotund ginkgo]

Rate my gym fit

[eager thorn]

10/10

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

[eager thorn]

God i hate baby groot

[inner zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[fading sky]

Longrt shorts mby?😅

[rotund ginkgo]

Baby groot does 2.6mil overall

No I'm naked

[fading sky]

Nice

[eager thorn]

How much you leg pressing

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm hack squatting

[eager thorn]

Oh

That then

[rotund ginkgo]

Idk I used to leg press 220+kg but now I'm a silly little beta

[glossy burrow]

btw is there some kind of secret of doing more dps in m+ i always feel so behind compared to ret pally and fdk

[rotund ginkgo]

Yes ur weaker than them

[fading sky]

Reroll

[eager thorn]

Ye I’m not big hench but most of my muscle is in my legs so i enjoy stuff like leg press n hack squat

Growing up fat made my legs giga

[rotund ginkgo]

I used to hack squat like 120kg+

Not a lot i know

I'll try to do 100 today

[eager thorn]

I couldnt tell you if it was a lot or not honestly

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm not strong I don't go to the gym as often

[eager thorn]

Good shit tho

[rotund ginkgo]

As I should

[fading sky]

Havent got knees or ankles for the hack

Great if u are short though

[restive granite]

how many ppl are Qing for GB that i get rejected with almost 2700io to a 7

1 hour of getting rejected lmao

[fading sky]

Ofc 7 is loot fam

[rotund ginkgo]

I am a short king

[rotund ginkgo]

Do a 9 or a 10

[fading sky]

Or 8

[rotund ginkgo]

You'll literally have a better chance to get in + at 7s u either get genuine dumbasses or just loot farm like he said

8-9s usually always time

Cuz even if the tank is ass unless he legit dies every 2nd pull u can just brute force the timer

[glossy burrow]

9s are almsot always in time when i join them true

sometimes even 2+

[frigid sinew]

Tell that to my pugs

[fading sky]

Haha

Its so random

[frigid sinew]

Juuuuuuup

[fading sky]

Only takes 1 bad player

U rly feel that

[frigid sinew]

And dont have time to push this season so i missed all the normal people

[fading sky]

Mm same!!!!

[young glacier]

M+ will be thane + AM + ravager with the tune?

[frigid sinew]

Its only the peasents now

[fading sky]

Id guess so

If everyghing is implementef

[glossy burrow]

sometimes my keys are getting attacked by the matrix

everything goes well, 0-2 deaths overall, very good in time and THEN at the end 1-2 or two people get possesed by agent smith and 2 random stupid wipes happen and the key is ruined hahahaah

[fading sky]

Thane with am is fun

[fading sky]

Its called tyranical

[young glacier]

• AM. Id like it

[glossy burrow]

or necrotic wake 3rd boss

hahaha

[livid marsh]

that guy is definitely overtuned

[soft mortar]

Wdym thane in m+, fml 😦

[errant vessel]

3rd boss is not that bad anymore

Since nerfs

[glossy burrow]

Can't wait to try thane, it's fun tbh

[tidal kindle]

Bro

Nah

[barren coral]

is there a huge difference beetween full ST and normal raid cleave in dps princess?

i absolutely hate using champ spear during BL

[bitter palm]

have fun being tuned around last boss at 99 jugg stacks

on mythic

(0 st in all content until 40 jugg stacks)

[livid marsh]

better than having no st at all

like now

[bitter palm]

how do we have no st

[hardy cargo]

99 stack ashen jug is seen thru very rose tinted goggles 100% uptime requirement not fun

[bitter palm]

youre lowest on a boss that perma moves

and has annoying downtime on 90s

as a 90s class

ofc u will suck

[warm crag]

why whats the problem

[bitter palm]

nostalgia

[barren coral]

feels sluggish

takes me out of the flow

[bitter palm]

im shook that people remember test of might positively

and the only reason

[glossy burrow]

i know what you mean

[bitter palm]

is cause it did damage

[warm crag]

just use an @ cursor macro or

[hardy cargo]

tom in bfa wasnt fun necessarily bc of tom

[rotund ginkgo]

Blasted this for a new rep pr on the hacksquat https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=z11jxaOu_Cw&si=frHTNd_e9pHAfORX

[warm crag]

die tom die

[hardy cargo]

but it was where most of the power came from

[bitter palm]

i twas 50000000% haste

[rotund ginkgo]

God I felt like I'm evolving

[bitter palm]

which is already wrong

arms should not be a haste spec

never

arms should be slow

and hard hitting

also i love

when

i am perma in cds

so when i dont play tom i do fuckall damage (m+ st)

(df incident)

[eager thorn]

Think roar is like ~.5% dps behind spear for st

[warm crag]

ye you can drop spear for roar if you dont care about playing optimally

i did it for hc clear when we were 30 men and lust lagged me too hard for me to confidently hit that spear every time

[eager thorn]

I just have it drop @ player and use once i charge

[rotund ginkgo]

I just suck

[eager thorn]

Tbh if you care about playing st optimally you should prob just go arms right

[opaque solstice]

i know this is random asf but guys is 1h fury anywhere near viable?

[eternal sundial]

It's worse but playable

[torpid sand]

are yall ready to use anger management again

[opaque solstice]

i love AMM

[keen ember]

Hello, what would be the basic rotation with mountain thane in m+?

[opaque solstice]

i like to watch YouTube breakdowns for rotation help

[eager thorn]

Its viable in the sense you should be fine clearing content with it yes

Although you are putting yourself at like an >5% dps disadvantage doing so

[eternal sundial]

Same as normal just thunderblast high prio tc same prio as ww

[barren coral]

awesome, ty

how good is our raid buff as far as raid buffs go?

[heavy dock]

Pretty good for physical classes ig

[hardy cargo]

its pretty mid overall, a bit better after the chaos brand/AI nerf

[smoky vale]

100% value at 1 2nd one is 0% value

[barren coral]

it only boosts phys dmg?

[hardy cargo]

its ap, so str+agi classes

[smoky vale]

Im saying the 1st warrior buff has 100% value, the 2nd one has 0% value

because you will probably be playing 2

[eternal sundial]

Mandatory like all other buffs

[smoky vale]

hi phil :3

i found a guild to trial in 🙂

[eternal sundial]

Ah

Gl

[tender seal]

gl

[wary fjord]

So, is thane the go to for m+ goin from Tuesday or nah?

[viral scaffold]

Got this last night from a random zek'thir spawn in from a tier 11 Delve. Is anyone using it? i sim'd it and it did slightly better then Wild Hammer. Downside is it has one secondary stat and no strength.

[eternal sundial]

Beats other weapons in it's track

[wary fjord]

If sim says use it, use it

[eternal sundial]

Cant go myth track tho

[viral scaffold]

👍

[wary fjord]

Aren't tier 10 maps giving myth track gear?

Or tier 11?

Just got to rng roll

[warm crag]

no?

[wary fjord]

Damn, they still only give hero track even at that tiers maps? Oof

[warm crag]

good?

[wary fjord]

It is good we aren't beholden to map rng then tho

[warm crag]

if delves gave myth track items on a farmable item prog would solely consist of everyone farming this garbage for weeks and then pulling up to raid with 630 ilvl

[wary fjord]

Nah, aren't maps rare?

I've only seen like 3 drop so far ever

[warm crag]

i had 6 first week and they are infinitely farmable

[hardy cargo]

omg I would love seeing 3 pings a day from my raid leader making sure I did my daily delves

[wary fjord]

Lol

Damn, they really felt rarer for me

[eternal sundial]

Our mage had 11 Maps on wednesday

Before our raid

[wary fjord]

just got that bad luck I guess

[warm crag]

they are not rarer than mythic boes and almost every guild that cares has pulled extra trash or even boe farmed intentionally

[eternal sundial]

Piss stomped everyone

[viral scaffold]

Ive recieved 6 o7 of maps on jsut my warrior alone.

6 or 7

[bitter palm]

ive recieved 0 or 0 maps

[dawn lagoon]

Do a sim of it on multiple ads also, default sim is single target and effect of theweapon only applies to one target. Fairly sure that the damage will drop off in cleave

[opaque solstice]

ive had at least 2 maps on all of my alts and my bran is only lvl 30 i havent done that many delves

[barren coral]

done like 40 t8s bounty never seen a map

actually

i thnk ive seen about 20

from my groups

[slim pollen]

In my guild, i think the most anyone has gotten is maybe like 3 or 4 maps.
I've done 50 bountiful delves, and soooooo many more non bountiful. I got the whole delve loremaster achievement etc.
I've had a total of 2 maps across 2 characters, 1 in the first week or two on my main, and 1 on an alt a couple of days ago. They are absolutely rare, and for those here saying you got 6 or 11 or what ever, are either extremely lucky or lying at that point 😛

[barren coral]

drop rate is 4% afaik

for smth u do in 15-20 mins

thats very very hard to get

[manic pelican]

I see

[meager void]

You guys really have no idea the level of farming that occurs

Leave any tiny door open, and there will be someone using it.
Exploit early, exploit often.

[slim pollen]

I do, but then it's not "Easily farmable"
Then it's "Degenerate behaviour that most people won't even have the time to reach"

[warm crag]

maps are easily farmable

20 ppl just spam delves until zekvir attacks then you group up and get a decent chance at looting it

the origin point of this convo was how bad maps giving myth track gear would be ye

[midnight jackal]

yeah but at that point just farm 7+ keys

[warm crag]

go loot myth track gear from a +7

[midnight jackal]

it stops at hero loot though

[lament hinge]

would be nice if +7 gave myth track

[modest condor]

i got my first map after 49 delves, im now about 80 delves in and i've had 5 or 6

[warm crag]

yes you randomy joined a conversation about a hypothetical and started discussing the current state of the game

great

[midnight jackal]

yes, hypothetical is useless

[warm crag]

you are useless

[midnight jackal]

what if we got mythic gear from +2 keys

there

[warm crag]

we're not talking about that tho

[meager void]

Some people just dont understand how Cones of Dunshire convoluted this all can get.

[barren coral]

no, just buff NW and SV twice instead

make all m+ except +14 drop champ track

[lost saffron]

xD

[lament hinge]

yeah should have fortified and tyrannical already at +4, nerf all specs by 20%

[lost saffron]

Spongie what happened

You used to be kind

I miss old spongie

[warm crag]

i am kind to those deserving

[smoky vale]

:3

[lost saffron]

Who is deserving of your kindness

[midnight jackal]

not even himself, probably

[warm crag]

nah everyone but that guy p much

[lost saffron]

Understandable

Hosen überprüfung

[warm crag]

keine hosen

[lost saffron]

@clever belfry @gleaming siren

[warm crag]

@mossy fox

[lost saffron]

Critcake does not enjoy hosen checkups

[warm crag]

he must be checked

[smoky vale]

check these

[oblique trail]

Check this || ||

[smoky vale]

went out for a walk and now its raining

zzz

[modest condor]

cant believe you did that

[eager thorn]

i think 9 vault should give myth track tbf

[smoky vale]

found a duck

[eager thorn]

7 is a bit too low

[eager thorn]

chimken

[sinful sequoia]

so wensday MT in M+ XD

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1253376142111674378/piabuse-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[lost saffron]

Bring it home

[midnight jackal]

true, 9 would be a sweetspot. Also makes sense since that's when you get the higher level of crests

[lost saffron]

Disagree

10 giving myth track is fine

[warm crag]

10 myth track should give 2/6 myth tho

[lost saffron]

Difficulty is slightly above early myth bosses

Seems like a fair point

[eager thorn]

10 myth 2/6 9 myth 1/6

[lost saffron]

Nah 9 giving myth track is too easy imo

[eager thorn]

its a lot easier to pug 10s than it is to kill mythic bosses tho

[smoky vale]

no i just want to go to a vendor and get all my gear

[lost saffron]

Exactly

That's why it's slightly harder than the actual bosses

Mechanics wise

[eager thorn]

its not harder though imo

if i make a mistake at 9 or 10 im prob gonna die

and if we wipe in a 9 or a 10 we're prob gonna deplete

[lost saffron]

I think every dungeon is harder on 10 than first secons and third boss mythic

Tbf

[torpid sand]

9 giving myth track imo is ||the game||

[clever belfry]

none

i burned them all

[eager thorn]

||you lost the game||

[warm crag]

most dungeons are a 30 minute concentration check while first 4 bosses are 5 minute concentration checks

[lost saffron]

Yup

[eager thorn]

1st boss is like 8 mins isnt it

[warm crag]

all im malding abt is 1/6 myth track feels awful to loot

should be 6 minutes

unless your guild has trolls or not good dps then you extend it by an intermission

[eager thorn]

We havent killed any mythic bosses yet so idk abt the rest

[viral scaffold]

👍

[lost saffron]

First 4 are very easy

[warm crag]

idk maybe gather 20 men and go kill the loot pinatas

[lost saffron]

With 4th one being a bit harder

[eager thorn]

I mean its a skill issue sure but its not as easy as just go kill it

[warm crag]

hc ansurek is probably a harder prep check than the first 3 bosses

[lost saffron]

Yep

Hc ansurek is a lot harder

[eager thorn]

I also think gilded crests starting at 9 kinda sucks

[lost saffron]

Why?

It gives you progression

[eager thorn]

But from ppl ive seen defend these things they say that s1 is always the worst season for stuff like this so idk

[lost saffron]

Why do you think it sucks

[eager thorn]

Should prob get it earlier

[warm crag]

i dont think ppl defend this per se we just play fundamentally different games

[lost saffron]

You basically want myth loot without doing myth level content

Do I understand that correctly?

[eager thorn]

No

I’m happy to put in the effort and i have been doing so

[warm crag]

from a slightly guilty elitist perspective it is kind of nice that the gear level i need to acquire to kill mythic final bosses actually has effort and skill involved vs the previous seasons where ppl just roll trivial keys and craft max ilvl loot instantly

[eager thorn]

But just cos i can doesnt mean its a great way to have it

[lost saffron]

Why do you want it to be easier to aquire?

[eager thorn]

Yeah i can understand not wanting to make it too easy to gear

[ripe tangle]

I can't get into M+, gg no gear upgrades for me

[quaint stag]

8 for gilded I could see but myth track vault should be 9 when it’s a once a week one item choice from a vault. Think 8’s are too easy for myth vault slot

[warm crag]

9s are too easy for myth vault from my pov shrug

[lost saffron]

You can always play your own keys

[smoky vale]

or tank

[tulip swallow]

I think there should be more than one degree of seperation between max vault level and max crest level

[ripe tangle]

I could but I have a siege key rn, and that dungeons is pain

[eager thorn]

I just dont think theres anything special worth saving abt non timing a 10 for a vault slot

[golden hare]

10 is a cooler number than 9 so therefore it should remain myth track vault cut-off

[warm crag]

this doesnt work anymore after they compressed key levels from 20 to 10

[eager thorn]

Ye i think the compression is awful as well

[lost saffron]

Seems like a you problem

[warm crag]

compression is fine

ppl who only played 0-10 keys are probably shellshocked for a bit but itll be fine

[tulip swallow]

The compression is just questionable, I don't buy the clam that m0 is what m10 used to be

[warm crag]

ppl clearing 24-26 keys is nonsensical and uninterpretable while i know ppl clearing 12s is serious business

[lost saffron]

There is delves for those now

[eager thorn]

Why is it any different? Legit q

[modest condor]

yeah it's a shame that they claimed m0 would be old m10 difficulty but honestly it felt more like m3 or something

[lost saffron]

It's a joke

[eager thorn]

Like a number threshold for gamer keys would be known either way right

[quaint stag]

When you compress 18 for myth vault last season it’s a 9 key this season which is what myth vault should be

[smoky vale]

18 - 10 != 9

[quaint stag]

Difficulty wise I mean

[warm crag]

do you have actual arguments as to why 9s should be myth track or is that the key level you're comfortable clearing

[lost saffron]

What if they put myth track down to +9 but add the lvl 10 affix at 9

[eager thorn]

I’m comfortable with clearing 10s its just a struggle to get into them atm (p much every key level tho)

[warm crag]

this isnt even like meant to be insulting i dont see the real difference between m track between 9s and 10s other than the observer of the question struggling to clear 10s

[fallow minnow]

Its mythic track it's supposed to be difficult

[lost saffron]

I have none of those issues

[eager thorn]

And the fact ive joined like 8 weekly no leaver groups and only finished one doesnt make me want to do it more

[smoky vale]

^

[eager thorn]

Good for you

[fallow minnow]

Happens

[lost saffron]

Like idk, I just play my own key

[fallow minnow]

I have timed two out of 8 10s i attempted this reset xD

[lost saffron]

It's always free

[fallow minnow]

Or three

[lost saffron]

When I can decide who joins

[hardy cargo]

id imagine its just the difficulty jump between key levels being higher than normal, 10s are hard for pugs to clear but 9s are easy

[eager thorn]

Ye until u wipe and they leave

[tulip swallow]

playing your own key is demoralizing for different reasons tbh

[hardy cargo]

esp fort + tyran being slapped on at 10 exascerbates it

[smoky vale]

or when you get players you have played with before

[warm crag]

idk difficulty jump for a gear spike seems fair to me or

[lost saffron]

Then you took the wrong people

[eager thorn]

I wouldn’t personally say i have a skill issue for 10s

[tulip swallow]

The system is kind of designed for you to have the choice of more than one dungeon

[lost saffron]

That's on you

[eager thorn]

Yeah man cos i know whos gonna leave a no leavers group beforehand

Legit such a shit take

[lost saffron]

I mean you have enough info

To take people

[night relic]

Anything under a 12 is fairly doable pugging with the right people

[fallow minnow]

Can't predict who leaves and who doesn't

[tulip swallow]

You can guess but they're strangers so who knows wtf is really going on

[hardy cargo]

sure, I see where you are coming from though how it is now hasnt been the status quo so ppl are gonna be against it (personally idc either way I have friends and we get 8/8 on 10s every week)

[eager thorn]

^

[hardy cargo]

tho id be annoyed if I was perma pugging I think

[lost saffron]

Ofc you cannot predict it 100% but I finish 90% of my keys

[fallow minnow]

Yep

[lost saffron]

Whether timed or not

[fallow minnow]

Same

[eager thorn]

Ive had people leave on the last boss before

[lost saffron]

And that's more than enough

[eager thorn]

I saw a vid on twitter about a group disbanding AFTER the final boss when they need like 3% trash

Cant predict that shit really

[night relic]

Rough

[warm crag]

i saw a vid on twitter is surely the most respected point one can make

[lost saffron]

Bro you are giving a one tike example

When all you have to do is finish like 80%

[eager thorn]

I mean i gave two

[lost saffron]

And you're more than good

[fallow minnow]

I think the main point kinda sidetracked to sth else now

[lost saffron]

If you cannot do that it's a you issue

[eager thorn]

Well where would be a better place to say i saw it happen lol

[smoky vale]

Im going to imagine if a group is disbanding on the boss before last it means getting to there was not easy for the group

Usually not isolated incidents

[eager thorn]

It was fine but someone started typing and egos came out

[eager thorn]

Yes i know its a me issue thats why im talking about my experience with it?

I also said not clearing mythic raid is a skill issue for me atm

Its not like I’m looking for stuff to blame without looking at myself

[lost saffron]

I still have yet to hear why you should lower the requirements for myth track then though

[trail bane]

There we go, got all portals from this season so now i dont have to worry about finding groups after the target cap nerf

[lost saffron]

Just cuz you are struggling to fill the vault?

[warm crag]

no one tell him about the thane buff

[barren coral]

who wants myth lowered lol

like where do we lower it

[eager thorn]

If we get myth crests at 9 why not myth loot

[barren coral]

id much rather have SV and NW nerfed

[fallow minnow]

Hmm

[barren coral]

than lower myth track

[fallow minnow]

Sv and nw are fine mostly

Can't fail thats all

[barren coral]

if i boot up a +9 GB, i will get 80 applicants in 1 minute

+9 NW is EMPTY

[trail bane]

yea Spongie the target cap nerfs wont affect thane copium

[eager thorn]

If you start any key you get giga applicants

[dusty geyser]

M+ is unreal , everytime my spots gets taken by a frost dk

[barren coral]

nobody wants to touch that untested piece of shit

[somber elk]

why

[trail bane]

they will

[barren coral]

how is that fine

[warm crag]

you know there is an approximately 1 month time frame between this wednesday and the anniversary patch (date still unannounced)

[trail bane]

i do

[fallow minnow]

What, you expect to time a key after failing?

[eager thorn]

Thats more of an affix change than the dungeon though