fury

[barren coral]

it does need nerfs what are you on

no dungeons should be bricked in 1 wipe

[rotund ginkgo]

??

why would u wipe if u know what ur doing is the question

[autumn fiber]

can someone advise what more to improve on my stats? my dps is not that good in m+ 😦

[bitter palm]

clappa bricks me up whenever i

[rotund ginkgo]

if people are +2ing nw11 (which they are)

why does it need nerfs

[rotund ginkgo]

be a better player

more mastery btw

[bitter palm]

she blast on my thunder till i clappa like a mountain thane

[willow cradle]

Do you know what Simming is? It's a pretty handy tool that will help you minmax gear

[bitter palm]

cinema

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-absolute-cinema-gif-8932131737123141805

[bitter palm]

[rotund ginkgo]

me to my meat after next week

[autumn fiber]

thanks!

[autumn fiber]

yea, but somehow it is advising me to add more crit :/

[bitter palm]

do it then

[willow cradle]

The robot is real good

[bitter palm]

its shrimple like that

[rotund ginkgo]

she thunderblast my avatar til i lightning strike and make her thunderous roar

[bitter palm]

🎦

[rotund ginkgo]

what sim are u doing

stat weighs sim isnt good

[bitter palm]

stealing that thunderous roar part

[rotund ginkgo]

🎦

[barren coral]

discontinue the lithium

[rotund ginkgo]

bro speaking riddles

[autumn fiber]

im doing top gear

[rotund ginkgo]

hmmge

weird

[rotund ginkgo]

waiting for u to tell me why nw needs a nerf btw

[barren coral]

bait used to be convincing

[rotund ginkgo]

bait needs to be better then

im not the one baiting here btw

[barren coral]

believe what you want man im not engaging this

[rotund ginkgo]

???????

what do u mean engaging

[barren coral]

cant wait to have it fixed in 2 weeks though

[rotund ginkgo]

you said nw needs a nerf

im asking why

how is it bait lmao

if you cant bother explaining why "a dungeon shouldnt be bricked after a wipe" in your opinion why are u even trying to bring up a discussion

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[eager thorn]

Whats even bad in nw after the 3rd boss aoe nerf

[rotund ginkgo]

in my opinion its perfectly valid for a dungeon to be bricked in one wipe, provided that wipe is on a boss/really poorly timed.

theres a lot of dungeons including nw that can be timed even if the group fully wipes, if the wipe is in a "decent" spot and u can recover fast

that being said if u full wipe on 3rd boss after dropping spears, yes, it makes sense ur key is now bricked

the group fucked up, it happens

that applies to literally every key

[hard widget]

3rd boss just hurts a lot

[rotund ginkgo]

the game literally provides u with tools in nw to turn that boss into a fucking no brainer that takes less than 2 mins

[eager thorn]

Just dont be like me and spear the boss add

[rotund ginkgo]

ur so real

[rotund ginkgo]

pop defensive :3

[pliant jackal]

it seems like blizzard does think that dying should be punished more with 15 seconds subtraction

[rotund ginkgo]

jeffventes cmon

@pliant jackal thats a different subject for discussion

[hard widget]

Defensives arent gonna help u by taking 1m a sec

[rotund ginkgo]

and isnt the same as "a wipe shouldnt brick the key"

[rotund ginkgo]

well if i pop my enrage regen i now take 700k a sec and can regen

i havent experienced it on 12

[hard widget]

If u dont kill it in the second phase

[rotund ginkgo]

so i cant judge

tbf

[hard widget]

Ur just deadge

[rotund ginkgo]

kill it

[eager thorn]

Yeah thats fair but idk if id attribute the whole dungeon being hard if its just one source of dmg in one fight

[rotund ginkgo]

Chatting

[hard widget]

Ragish, we had a 12 where we didnt kill it on the second one ye

We were taking 4.3m dmg every 3 seconds

All of us

[rotund ginkgo]

2nd boss?

ye thats a roughie

[hard widget]

Because the 2nd creation just doesnt die

[rotund ginkgo]

could imagine how that ones aids on 12

[hard widget]

Without spears and lust and cds

[rotund ginkgo]

oh u meant 3rd boss 2nd phase

[eager thorn]

2nd add of 3rd boss i think

[hard widget]

yes

[rotund ginkgo]

yy ok

[hard widget]

The 2nd creation does not die

And ramps up crazy

[rotund ginkgo]

idk how it feels on 12s but im positive Cope is complaining on 9s-10s

[hard widget]

Then next one spawns if u dont kill the boss in that phase

[rotund ginkgo]

regarding 12s im also 100% sure we're still a bit bound by gear

so im not TOO quick

to judge

but i get u

i think cutoff will close in at around 14s

[hard widget]

Its gonna take weeks before people will time 12's and 13's

[eager thorn]

Would it be worth picking up a shield for the 3rd boss

[hard widget]

The gap is too big

[eager thorn]

Give some dr for the aoe

[rotund ginkgo]

wym weeks? people are already timing them though

pugs, not as much ofc

[restive peak]

Yeah 12 NW is a fuckin NIGHTMARE dude

[hard widget]

Gear or not, its giga tight if ur not playing with a premade team

[rotund ginkgo]

yy

for sure

but again

we're talking abt a 12

[hard widget]

U need a good group of gamers and then its still rough

[rotund ginkgo]

cope's point of discussion was on lower keys + about "bricking the key in one wipe"

i think a key being bricked on one wipe is the standard

sucks

but i mean

[hard widget]

Anything under a 12 is completely fine right now

[rotund ginkgo]

it can also not be bricked

yeah ik

12s just spike

so hard

[eager thorn]

The thing i hate abt nw is if you go back for % after last boss and die you end up spawning in narnia

[restive peak]

We have borderline 3 chest'd every 11

and have 3 12s done

[hard widget]

Just make sure u have % haha

[restive peak]

Some of that is lack of good keys

[rotund ginkgo]

based

@restive peak SHUT THE FUCK UP DK ABUSER

[restive peak]

Like we've timed mists 12 and siege 12 multiple times, haven't had a single 12 ara kara

[hard widget]

And this is premade

[eager thorn]

I only pug and tank rng sucks

[restive peak]

This is on my warrior Rageish calm down boo

https://tenor.com/view/animals-cats-no-cute-hooman-gif-3309849

[hard widget]

I can say from pug perspective its about a 5% chance u time a 12

[restive peak]

Yeah I'd say lower

[hard widget]

Because u cant filter people on how good they are

[restive peak]

5% if you get an echo player or two

[eager thorn]

We needed 4% to time a 10 and the tank pulled a big pack of adds at the start instead of one of the gatekeeper dudes and we wiped + depleted

[rotund ginkgo]

isnt one of ur teammates a dk

[restive peak]

No

[hard widget]

Its legit complete rng if u get a first time player who just happened to join Lincs group and 2 chested all 11's

Or u get a gamer

[restive peak]

We run BRM/Outlaw/Fury/Aug/RSham

[hard widget]

And even with full gamer group u brick most

[rotund ginkgo]

ur so real for that lincy

[restive peak]

^ this is true, we've had to fill 1 slot sometimes and repeatedly we've discussed how we just handed some bad player io that's gonna brick a key unfairly

and we feel bad

[rotund ginkgo]

jeff sorry i dont speak to non-yellow usernames

ur cringe rn

[hard widget]

Kekw

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-meme-cringe-imagine-gif-23477312

[rotund ginkgo]

give me the io

[restive peak]

Come NA

[rotund ginkgo]

guys jeventes declined me to his key

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[hard widget]

Bro i've been looking for a fucking guardian druid for ages

They dont exist

[rotund ginkgo]

they all have groups

theyre all in a key

[hard widget]

Its pointless to pug 12's

[rotund ginkgo]

theyre all busy bricking 13 keys in a row

[hard widget]

No the people i get to sign up have never pushed before

[rotund ginkgo]

2.3k

bear

timed +8

"i can try"

[hard widget]

Ur making a joke out of it

[rotund ginkgo]

im not

[hard widget]

But thats seriously what happens

[rotund ginkgo]

im being serious

[eager thorn]

You gotta respect the attempt

[rotund ginkgo]

i put up my gb11

and i get 2.4k ppl

signing up

[hard widget]

Yeah and its fine, but u know

[rotund ginkgo]

highest timed is a 8

or a 9

like

??

maybe try a 10????

why is a 2.4k mistweaver with a +8 gb signing up to my 11

shooters shoot

[final birch]

thats been a case ever since I started playing

people are fishing

[eager thorn]

I had a russian mage in a 10 mists yesterday that hadnt timed a key yet i think

[final birch]

"oh he wants this tank oh there are no tanks in q oh this oh that"

[eager thorn]

They got the achi for timing a +5 and +10 at same time

[rotund ginkgo]

the fact itwas timed

[rotund ginkgo]

wym

[hard widget]

The amount of times i took a way underqualified person just because nothing else was signing

[final birch]

.

response

[rotund ginkgo]

yh

but like

id just not take them

idk

[final birch]

replace tank with healer

[rotund ginkgo]

call me crazy

[final birch]

well

[hard widget]

Take the shammy with a +7 out of time for an 11 because no other healer signs

[final birch]

90% of the time

[pliant jackal]

lol

[final birch]

I dont wanna take any1 in q

[rotund ginkgo]

legit just grab a hpal

lol

or any other heal

i took a 2.6k ww instead of a 2.7 dk

key is timed

happyge

[final birch]

but then I remember that as long as i'm 610 ilv on any of my alts its good enough to solo survive most of the stuff on a 10

[rotund ginkgo]

real

rawgish is now level 80

lets do a quick random tww normal to get retgish to 73

[eager thorn]

I think my favourite pug players are shamans that put “have lust” in bio

[rotund ginkgo]

i had a nw11 brick on 1st pull cuz both the rsham and the evo didnt lust

i whispd evo and he said "i cant lust i have to press everything"

[final birch]

i'm slowly leveling my pala/sham/priest

[rotund ginkgo]

so i whispd shammy and he said "i cant lust i have to heal"

[final birch]

just taking rested exp to 150%

then utilising

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

[eager thorn]

lmao

[rotund ginkgo]

ok sure i guess drums :>

[final birch]

drums r expensive

as fuck

rn

[rotund ginkgo]

leveling is so fucking

brianrot

brainrot

i cant

i do 1 dugneon and i wanna sleep

[eager thorn]

I hate levelling

[hard widget]

I needed drums, saw the price, disbanded party instead

[eager thorn]

Its just boring non challenging dg queue

[final birch]

idk its alr I play specs I dont know how to play

like resto sham

like holy pala

[rotund ginkgo]

i play specs i dont know how to play

like ret pala

frost dk

[final birch]

that brings some fun in it

[rotund ginkgo]

[final birch]

ret is like

1 button

[rotund ginkgo]

thats the joke

[final birch]

u dont need to know how to play it

bet

[rotund ginkgo]

i just wake of ashes

and storm my way

[final birch]

thats the reason

I'm leveling my pala

ret seems fun as fuck

for weekly keys

[rotund ginkgo]

golden spin

[hard widget]

Actuallly quite funny, i thought fdk would be harder. It literally has 3 rotational buttons

[eager thorn]

I’ve been trying fdk but 2 resources is too much for my warr brain

[rotund ginkgo]

i just hate breath

with a passion

I HATE BREATH

[final birch]

like a friend of mine was gapping my war on aoe being 10 ilv lower

on his ret

granted hes a good ret but its still his alt and he has cds like perma

[hard widget]

Who cares, u just get the weakaura that has the fancy proc things in ur screen

[regal storm]

I don't wanna slow crawl, lemme leap frog!

[rotund ginkgo]

@hard widget everyone flames warr for being braindead easy

not realizing their classes are literally

[willow cradle]

It's surprisingly impossible to fuck up if you don't ape with breath

[rotund ginkgo]

equally brainless

[hard widget]

FDK less buttons

[eager thorn]

Ye i havent hit 80 yet so i havent started properly setting up ui

[hard widget]

Yeah im doing 3m burst with 595 ilvl without set 🙂

[final birch]

eh idk every spec is easy if you apply yourself

[hard widget]

Fun spec

[final birch]

I remember hearing feral is hard

[eager thorn]

I go lfg get darkflame cleft and turn off pc

[final birch]

and this shit is actually super easy

[rotund ginkgo]

im just saying that like at a baseline average level

[final birch]

if you played it tiny bit

[rotund ginkgo]

specs are fucking easy

[hard widget]

5 targets btw

[final birch]

every spec is hard to be really good at and easy to be w.e at

[rotund ginkgo]

@eager thorn real

@eager thorn i do normal dungs and i get back to back cot, cleft, rookery and cinderberw

in that order

[eager thorn]

Despair

[rotund ginkgo]

ive done 30+ dungs and i havent done one arakara yet

KEKW

[eager thorn]

Dawnbreaker is prob bis lvling dungeon

[rotund ginkgo]

dawnbreaker bis in general

[eager thorn]

Just skip minibosses on 2nd boss and zoom

[rotund ginkgo]

SPEAK OF THE DEVIL

[eager thorn]

I think i enjoy mists the most

[eager thorn]

Big

[pearl sequoia]

run arakara only for the worst performing in the dung to get the sac

[eager thorn]

Dk being able to deaths advance last boss suck is kinda cracked

[hard widget]

This is a new low

[unreal onyx]

wrong server buddy, you just exposed yourself

[eager thorn]

Do you guys think its ever worth to pop reck by itself sometimes

[hard widget]

If you want blizzard to buff us yes

[eager thorn]

Like if a pack needs a bit more dps but it wont be worth using ava/roar

[hard widget]

You only ever desync with AM

[eager thorn]

Ah kk

[willow cradle]

Tbh when I hear Aug players say it's hard cause you need external knowledge on all classes I kinda kek a bit cause based on that Warrior is significantly more complex due to all the spell reflect interactions

[hard widget]

This is just hard cope, they only need omnicd to track offensives

Thats it

[final birch]

aug in raid requires some prep

if you want to be good

aug in keys

[hard widget]

In raid yes

[eager thorn]

Spell reflect wa sound is soooo much dopamine

[final birch]

is piss easy

[eager thorn]

Especially on the corrupt shit at end of gb

[rotund ginkgo]

467 ilvl

big

[hard widget]

I think lizzards are just mad because they cant allign with SP anymore

[eager thorn]

Large for the account

[hard widget]

So they need to do a little more thinking

[pulsar quest]

can i have that

[tribal goblet]

I just saw the upcoming patch notes. Is mountain thane gonna be the play now?

[rotund ginkgo]

sure

[pulsar quest]

thanks bud

big ups

[rotund ginkgo]

ilvl 1467

[weary sail]

[rotund ginkgo]

deathcake

[final birch]

cant play strong meta class for an alt

[weary sail]

Wheres the DK nerfs btw

[barren coral]

was there not a mount when u hit 2k rio?

[weary sail]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-tww-1/all/world/leaderboards/0#content

All DKs / mage / aug

[acoustic yoke]

I'm trying to convince my friends if we just had an Aug we'd be having a far better time

[winter shoal]

There is, it's mailed to you I think

[weary sail]

Thats every class… every class will be better with aug

[acoustic yoke]

Ye but they're so blinded by Aug hate they believe it's shit

[limpid tusk]

so we going MT thane this coming reset?

[acoustic yoke]

More than likely

In M+ though

[pearl sequoia]

I havent even tried thane yet, is it much of a playstyle difference

[limpid tusk]

yeah i'm just thinking if i play it or not.. and Run= RA or swap to AM

idk whta the ST loss will be like.

just need someone with brain to tell me numbers

[hardy cargo]

#updates-midnight

[rotund ginkgo]

ur welcome

[rotund ginkgo]

i agree

fuck augs

the issue isnt aug inherently

its that all augs are just autopilot players

backseat drivers

so theyre useless

a good aug is very nice, makes the key way smoother

but a good aug is rare

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah I get that part but they just think the entire spec is a bad one as opposed to players just being bad with it

[eager thorn]

I feel like i never get good aug pugs

But also details doesnt rlly show the damage well so idk

[rotund ginkgo]

if the vast majority of aug players are bad, the issue is that if u bring an aug ur actually making it harder to time

[rotund ginkgo]

u can just feel that things die slower if the aug isnt good

[south kayak]

So true

[lusty jungle]

gamerss

[south kayak]

Lmao

Gigachads

[eternal lance]

[covert blaze]

feel dn

[rotund ginkgo]

U know it

[hushed ocean]

What if... we don’t wait aug track our cds but... we track theirs ?

Nvm. Fuck augs.

[pliant jackal]

is there someone people see in warrior for Dawnbreaker its weird that i have no problem getting into dawnbreaker

[winter shoal]

Reflecting abyssal blast is kinda good ig

Not nearly as good as reflecting splice in CoT though

[wispy dock]

are we thane enjoyers on tuesday now?

[undone palm]

I kinda hope so but idk

[wispy dock]

still RA?

[solar forum]

Any ideas on how i could sim best gem combination?

[oblique trail]

Top gear, scroll down, pick the gems you want, make sure to tick replace gems/enchants, use what it says

[thorn star]

did our tier get buffed?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[thorn star]

i cant find the link

[oblique trail]

#updates-midnight

[south kayak]

What’s the overall tier % now

[thorn star]

cheers

[eager thorn]

For m+ it’s likely yeah

Less up front burst and slightly less st damage for better aoe sustained dmg and survivability

[south kayak]

Also, does anyone know if the passives on thane tree that buff BT and RB work for RA spells?

[mild ravine]

they should

but AM is looking yummy

[wispy dock]

i almost feel that AM with thane would further help with the sustained aoe damage?

i dunno im not smart math wise

[tidal kindle]

Like 3% ish

Maybe 3.5

@oblique trail did you see tomorrow's worlds schedule

Wait do you even watch league

[south kayak]

At least it’s something

Better than arms?

[tidal kindle]

Dunno arms value off the top of my head

[south kayak]

I thought you were garms..

[young swan]

AM definitely still just an ovinax meme until 11.0.5

[winter shoal]

Ovinax still slayer too right

Surely

[young swan]

im gonna try thane but yeah prob just a slayer angle

[winter shoal]

What about a slarms with cleave angle

Ig boss dam is kind of irrelevant after nerfs right

[young swan]

feel like arms is kind of troll for now

at leats until people get more HP

except silken court

for the hard bosses anyways

[winter shoal]

Just too squishy you mean?

[young swan]

yeah

also like

what are u bringing arms to ovinax for

[winter shoal]

I was just xddChatting tbh

[young swan]

fair

[winter shoal]

I keep meaning to spend time to learn arms but idk after them catching so many strays, it seems like just staying fury main makes more sense

Except maybe Rashanan depending on how fast others kill adds

[oblique trail]

Playing Arms generally is the best play on any ST oriented fight if you care about being as optimal as you can

(Even if the spec plays like shit)

[young swan]

yeah it does damage

[oblique trail]

I'ma be real chief, I haven't been keeping up with League for like a year..

[tidal kindle]

Free from league

[young swan]

but its also just worse than other options and is worse defensively than fury

which is quite literally the only check on ovi/kyveza now

[tidal kindle]

Don't think arms is 5% ahead on fury after tuesday anyway

[winter shoal]

I mean I'm just a lot more practiced with fury tbh, if I played arms as well as I play fury then idk

[willow cradle]

Grays on staying sober

[tidal kindle]

No more garms

Only

[winter shoal]

Not that I play fury particularly well, I just play it a lot better than I do arms

[tidal kindle]

[tidal kindle]

Oh no not me

[oblique trail]

My cowarrior is playing Fury rn on Kyveza while I'm Arms

Generally I'm quite a bit ahead of him assuming neither of us get rolled by mechanics

[young swan]

fury just safer

[oblique trail]

meh

[oblique trail]

I feel fine as Arms on Kyveza

I've never been the first 3 deaths

[winter shoal]

We aren't to any real mythic bosses yet so it's kind of whatever either way

[tidal kindle]

Only scary part really is intermission

[oblique trail]

Intermission as well I'm bing chilling

[tidal kindle]

Fury can just ER + BS

Xdd

Pseudoimmune

[oblique trail]

But our healers are also kinda goated

But ye, Fury generally is tankier but Arms can also be very tanky if you just play like a human

And know when to use your defensives

[tidal kindle]

How many

[winter shoal]

Anyone know if the tuesday tuning changes will be in raidbots ahead of time, or will they be in with the reset?

[tidal kindle]

Melee dps are you running

On nexcess

[fresh flume]

bro i don't know how or what i'm doing wrong but i am not doing fury right

[oblique trail]

Let me look

[winter shoal]

Have you read the wowhead and maxroll guides

[oblique trail]

xdd

We are 5

[heavy dock]

Guys wtf is ret rn? I just got to 80 and put on my+ build and i cant fill one bar with buttons to press lol

[tidal kindle]

7....

[fresh flume]

yes i've read so many guides and watched so many videos especially the ones of the m10 runs and such

[tidal kindle]

No wonder

[winter shoal]

post logs here or in #449510248579858432

[oblique trail]

Ok I lied earlier, I've been within the first 3 deaths, 3 times, in 47 pulls

[tidal kindle]

[oblique trail]

But other than that I basically share being 100% alive for all pulls together with a healer and tank

[tidal kindle]

I believe w/ reset

[oblique trail]

Raidbots always updates when the tuning happens

It being updated prior would just give inaccurate results otherwise

[oblique trail]

Just dodge chief

[fresh flume]

okay 1sec

[oblique trail]

I was looking at my vod earlier, and I can easily just strafe left/right with small movements and be safe

[buoyant salmon]

same besides one time i died through d stance sr and dbts

[oblique trail]

Though having 7 melee must be miserable, especially if your tanks are also terrorists

[winter shoal]

Bro I watched Exile's pov for all of liquid's prog, then I saw IFU's pov and that shit looked so payphone in intermissions

[buoyant salmon]

im not health potting on the first mechanic of the fight i dont give a single fuck

heal me im sitting in dstance

[verbal rivet]

I panicked in my Princess pulls earlier and just slammed D Stance for intermission ngl.

[tidal kindle]

There was nowhere I can move here without killing someone

I thought

Cuz of

[oblique trail]

I've not had to do this yet iirc from any pull

[tidal kindle]

These pets that I confused for another player

[oblique trail]

SR and I'm fine if I get targeted by dash

Get dashed, go into melee, pop IV, refresh dots

Leap out

[tidal kindle]

Someone else died triggering a chain reaction though

All g

[verbal rivet]

I just hate when the DPS I’m running from follows me

[oblique trail]

Honestly looking forward to the BM nerfs

So I wont have to look at pets anymore

Unless MM for some reason doesn't use Lone Wolf anymore..

[fresh flume]

okay please don't flame me but how do i post logs? I'm on warcraft logs

[winter shoal]

What's your character name and server?

[fresh flume]

Wallet - Bleeding Hollow

[winter shoal]

Word, I'll take a peek at your kyveza since that's a straightforward single target fight

[fresh flume]

yes that's from a while ago when my friend was doing logs for me

[winter shoal]

Also check your DMs, I sent you a vid that may be helpful idk

[fresh flume]

do I do /combatlogs?

[winter shoal]

Yeah /combatlog ingame and then use the warcraftlogs uploader application

[modest condor]

make sure you go to your ingame settings and have advanced combat logging enabled

[winter shoal]

@fresh flume

• 0:11 your RBs should have been BB and then you would probably have rage for a rampage right after
• 0:14, 0:25 you skip a CB cast
• 1:36 you throw your spear and then don't do anything for a couple seconds, I assume that was when the boss moves to the middle for intermission and you had to move to be in range; that just comes with knowing and practicing the fight
• 1:49 you use your trinket after your other cooldowns have finished; you want to use that with your avatar and spear every 90 seconds to multiply the damage buffs together
• 1:54 you skip a BB cast
• 2:03 you skip a CB cast, which may have been correct if you needed to refresh enrage, but that's unlikely
• 2:49 you skip a CB cast
• 3:08 you exe twice in a row which is never correct, you should only execute to maintain AJ or if you have 3x MFE (neither of which would be the case for the second exe) - you also did that right after spear, so your CM was buffing two exes and a rampage, none of which hit very hard
• 3:19 you skip both CB and BB

[south kayak]

ret blast time

[fresh flume]

Thank you so much! I am going to go through a heroic raid soon and will come back with the log for some of it to see if I am still making these mistakes and what I can fix (these logs are from a while ago I believe but I'm probably still making the same mistakes)

[winter shoal]

Yeah it's hard to tell from a single log what kind of patterns you are or aren't following, but keep those things in mind and spend some time (like an hour or two) on a training dummy with the wowhead rotation guide up
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[bleak gale]

is there any way to pull mobs through the walls in mists after 1st boss as warrior

[fresh flume]

this is the raid single target spec? I predominantly use the m+ aoe one and can't get the single target down for raid either

[winter shoal]

Yeah you can choose which talents are selected on the wowhead guide to fit the M+ build instead, it's largely the same though

Just swap spear for roar and press OF when it's up, really

And M+ spec doesn't take AJ so you don't need to worry about that

[fresh flume]

I see, I use the wowhead m+ and raid one and it seems like the talents have a bunch of changes

[sullen dove]

omg!!! frost sukkkkkcckkcskksk!!!!

(he was 17 ilvls below us)

[south kayak]

lmao

!1111

[modest condor]

omg what a n00ber xddlmao

[covert blaze]

powerful

[lament lagoon]

we dont get gilded from normal queen right?

[sullen dove]

no

[winter shoal]

Fellas earlier today I thought I was converting carved crests into runed but I was actually downgrading gilded into runed

Is it joever for me

[modest condor]

oh no

[lament lagoon]

ouch

almost as bad as me me blowing 30 gilded upgrading a wep

[covert blaze]

bro

[lament lagoon]

cause i thought i was using runed

[winter shoal]

It was only 60 gilded crests nbd right

[summer quail]

That's a rough setback

[vocal igloo]

how come sacblood loses value in aoe if it's just a primary stat boost?

[south kayak]

So the Templar buffs for paladin is enough to make it better than Herald in all situations

kek

[dry hawk]

are these that far apart?

[ornate gust]

Just buy the DF version. Way cheaper!

[dry hawk]

I was asked if using a whetstone was a DPS boost, sims showed oil

So I didn't fully know

[willow cradle]

Oils are better for Warrior currently

[dry hawk]

Ty Tin

[wheat gazelle]

what do we use for mythic+ sims? i didnt see a "use these settings" in the pins or FAQ section.

[dry hawk]

finally got me a nice weapon too

[upbeat plume]

I was stoked I got the grim batol weapon on myth track in this weeks vault

[remote zephyr]

I thought crafting a 636 weapon let you upgrade any weapon to 619 whithout using crests?

[modest condor]

if it's a 2h weapon yeah

[dry hawk]

thats odd 👀

[remote zephyr]

bruh

[dry hawk]

what I went to go test that

because that is a 2h sword

[modest condor]

that is weird

[dry hawk]

with the axe out of raid

[remote zephyr]

I remember I could do it fine on my main character but now on my alt it's not doing it

[signal gyro]

Did you put the weapon in second slot then back so it counts as having the myth track on both slots?

[modest condor]

yeah i definitely upgraded my 2nd weapon without spending crests

unless im halucinating, which is ofcourse very possible

[signal gyro]

No you’re right, I’ve upgraded mine without crests

[tardy bough]

very noob question but can someone tell me which potion i can take in combat

for h3alth

i dies a lot

die*

[abstract flower]

I am faced with a dilema. No one is taking me to 7 GBs despite being over 2k io and 616 ilvl. Now, I know I can go make some crappy 590 tank wep/shield and get in but idk how to play prot and will brick their keys. But it is sure sounding more pleasing than the alternative of 2+ hours serching for groups. Wtf do people actually look for to get into a 7? Like its really not that deep right? its just a 7

[dry hawk]

so I'm just a sad warrior that can't? 😢

[tardy bough]

maybe people wants like familiar persons

[signal gyro]

Not warriors is what most people look for, if people are taking melee it’s ret/fdk

[buoyant salmon]

an OBSCENE amount of ppl are queueing for gb 7s

[modest condor]

maybe relog

[buoyant salmon]

why does everyone say ret man

enhance is fucking absurd

[abstract flower]

I have an 8 timed on this char and 40+ timed 7-9s on my druid lol

[signal gyro]

Have you tried switching to arms just to see if that lets it count?

[buoyant salmon]

who cares about ret

[dry hawk]

relogging then I'll try that

[signal gyro]

Cause most people are looking for resto shams rn, so more buffs with a ret brought in

[tardy bough]

guys help please😅

[dry hawk]

I just had this recrafted like an hour ago

[buoyant salmon]

choosy over healers in a 7 is crazy

[signal gyro]

Welcome to how m+’s are in tww

[modest condor]

algari healing potion

[dry hawk]

relogging procced it

[pliant jackal]

they saw it was you choco

[tardy bough]

thanks .. does it requires being seated?

[modest condor]

no

[tardy bough]

tysm🙏

[dry hawk]

appreciate this tip^

[signal gyro]

It’s actually fully cooked for pug grouping rn, if you don’t have your own group then people are just inviting the “meta” because there is an influx of people trying to get in on keys

It happens honestly even on 6’s too

[tardy bough]

arms warrior has few rota which regenerate health but fury i guess only one is impending victory so ill put potions in my actionbar if its possible

[dry hawk]

just get the health pots

[tardy bough]

wow

im king in mythic after this lol

i do dps but cant save myself from little creatures as i have problems in peripheral vision lol

[signal gyro]

You can find some weakauras and addons that will give you audio queues for when you are standing in bad things or someone is about to smack you very hard for defensive cooldowns.

Helpful for a lot of people who need accessibility options!

[young swan]

[manic pelican]

Which build are you guys finding the most success beating Zekvir ??

[young swan]

surely thats meant to be the other way around

[dry hawk]

1st or second tier?

[manic pelican]

Second

1st was a breeze

[dry hawk]

agreed sxome dont like it lol

[tardy bough]

i have DBMs they tell me about boss mechanics and standing in puddle but i dont have anything for someone smaking me hard can you suggest one

[abstract flower]

is shard better in m+ than mark by a alot of just like "technically" better?

[young swan]

its definitely better, but prob not by a lot

[abstract flower]

well screw it I got into a SV cant get into a GB we go for it then ig

[remote zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1WC18_dP60& my chance to flex

[dry hawk]

how did you getr teh T10 delve?

[remote zephyr]

Carefully

[dry hawk]

I keep getting trucked on the mini boss adds

[wraith wharf]

you can get lucky and they can spawn in a spot you can skip them

[vagrant cave]

Hi, in the wowhead prio list, assuming the worst luck, should base Bloodthirst not be much higher in the prio list under the condition "If not Enraged"?

assuming that was how it has always always been since Fury had BT give Enrage chance

[dry hawk]

well we got here in one piece >.>

[dry hawk]

smart tactic

[dry hawk]

how hard is it now?

[remote zephyr]

I heard he was nerfed recently but I’m not sure how exactly

607 ilvl took me about 4 hours of attempts so

[dry hawk]

im 618

[remote zephyr]

Eh you’ll get it

Remember you can spell reflect the fear in the second phase

[dry hawk]

you dont Zerk it?

[remote zephyr]

No the fear is a one shot without defensives

And spell reflecting is big dam

[young swan]

it doesnt do dam anymore

[dry hawk]

my brann is prolly hella low

[young swan]

just deflects

[remote zephyr]

No way it doesn’t do dam whaaaat

Crazy

Mine was lower at the time

[dry hawk]

182M hp now

enfeebline Spittle is insane in P2

[lament lagoon]

Mat quality does not mattr for enchanted gilded crest right

[young swan]

nah

send whatevers cheapest

[lament lagoon]

dope thanks

[lament lagoon]

And to recraft from 619>636 dont need anymore sparks?

[random raptor]

no

[lament lagoon]

just alloys?

no missives and stuff

[young swan]

yar

[random raptor]

and acuity, but crafters might be able to provide it

[young swan]

unless u wanna change stats, then obviously u need a diff missive

[lament lagoon]

cool, not as bad as i thought

[random raptor]

zekvir ?? was pretty easy

[lament lagoon]

right

[random raptor]

only took like an hour

you can't reflect the fear anymore btw

just make sure to spec into relentless pursuit, jump out of the spittle slow with leap/charge or remove it with avatar, odyns to activate avatar or bladestorm

also emphasize the interrupt for the heal so you don't miss it

[dry axle]

Took me 13 pulls and a spec change, but I got him at 615 ilvl. If my charges were down with relentless specced, saved an odyns/bladestorm for a second, rinse repeat and boom

[dry hawk]

no you cant..... just tried that

well I got him to 43% and missed a cast

[grim lotus]

Hi guys, im looking for new main to play and im considering playing fury warrior but i wanted to ask if it is hard to get accepted to mythic+ dungeon as fury?

[worldly thunder]

I definitely have a harder time getting invites on my fury warr compared to my frost dk

[turbid abyss]

Fury has little to no utility in M+ aside from stuns

[grim lotus]

yeah soo would u guys advice me to play it or no? im also thinking about balance druid but cant decide

[young swan]

play what you enjoy

pugging is a nightmare no matter what

[sudden tusk]

Gonna be thane testing next week

might be fun

[grim lotus]

well i really enjoy sub rogue but its nightmare for me to play it

[sudden tusk]

@young swan why is the acheivement mount so ugly i thought it was gonna own

masquito lookin ass

[alpine quartz]

consider playing prot to gear fury to a point where you can stand a better chance of getting into groups

also consider forming your own groups

[young swan]

idk it sucks

at least its obtained

[sudden tusk]

Alc strats

[grim lotus]

will keep that in mind thanks for the advice guys

[teal tulip]

anyone experiencing a delicouoking between WA and actual cooldown timers for baldestorm?

Some of my abilities striaghtuo wont go off

[sudden tusk]

if you've been using Luxthros then yeah

the CD is 8-10 seconds behind the WA

[teal tulip]

sick

I was going crazy

[sudden tusk]

its the affix

[teal tulip]

ugh

what is comparable?

[sudden tusk]

it works perfectly 99% of the time but something about the affix isnt calculated in it correctly

[young swan]

honestly fury is easily the most fun ive ever had playing a spec

obviously highly subjective

[sudden tusk]

if they bring in the RB and BT buffs

AM Thane might be a ton of fun in keys

[young swan]

but the experience is just fantastic if you like dealing really bursty damage on a short-ish cd

[turbid abyss]

Try herald ret, divine storm (aoe spender)spammed like there is no tomorrow, even on single target

[young swan]

nah

[turbid abyss]

30s cds

[young swan]

paladin class fantasy is cringe

just dk but worse in every way

[summer quail]

Even before that it might be

[south kayak]

Has anyone done sims for thane with the next week buffs, especially RA vs AM in m+ build?

[ornate gust]

Other classes will melt the adds before you start doing damage in low keys

[sudden tusk]

not in high keys

[south kayak]

Doubt

Yeah not high keys

[young swan]

#updates-midnight

im still like

so fucking sure

that AM is a giga trap outside of ovinax

[south kayak]

Specifically talking about RA vs AM

I don’t see that there

[young swan]

idk why you would expect RA vs AM to change given that nothing to benefit AM has changed

[south kayak]

Fair enough

[young swan]

the BT + RB buffs dont come until 11.0.5

[grim lotus]

i tried ret paladin and it was just too insane

the damage i was doing without even thinking was just disgusting

[south kayak]

I leveled my paladin to 80 and now I’m bored already 💀

[grim lotus]

TRUE

i got bored and i swapped

[south kayak]

And paladin is probably going to be even stronger since Templar buffs make it better

[grim lotus]

funny that they are even buffing paladin at this point

[south kayak]

Well, they did buff the unused hero talents

That’s normal

They do that for everyone

[grim lotus]

fury also getting buffs right?

[south kayak]

Thane buffs, exactly like Templar but thane was worse

[grim lotus]

so it will be better to play different talent tree?

[young swan]

better than it is currently, yeah

[south kayak]

For m+ probably

[grim lotus]

its like overall buff to fury right?

[south kayak]

Misread

[young swan]

nah

just to thane

[south kayak]

Well overall aoe buff

CLAPPA

[grim lotus]

so the slayer will be overall better but thane will be stronger now am i right?

[young swan]

slayer is better in the raid, thane will be better for high-ish m+ (12+)

[south kayak]

God bless balance

I think lightning strike should have been buffed by 50%

[grim lotus]

sorry for asking last time i play warrior it was in legion but u guys are playing thane or slayer now in mythic+?

[south kayak]

Slayer

[grim lotus]

hmm thats pretty nice

so warrior will do more damage in m+ now right

still havent decide what to play but im considering fury even more now

[warped python]

if you dont started right now, go and play dk 😛 saver choice 🙂

[grim lotus]

well u guys are the best from the best, fury need good weapons to deal damage right? like weapons are the most important equipment on this spec right?

[south kayak]

It does give you the most dps

[grim lotus]

would prob do it but my friend is playing frost dk right now and i dont want to "take his class"

[grim lotus]

and its the best to have 1 weapon crafted right?

[vague copper]

If we will go for AM/Thane in M+ will our bis stats still be mastery/haste (generally)?

I know sim but for crafter item and so on

[oblique trail]

It already generally is that

Mastery + anything, but AM typically does favour more haste than normal yes

[vague copper]

Ty

[tawny geode]

yall use CB first or BB first after ramp

[grim lotus]

might be dumb question but what is AM

[tawny geode]

anger management

talent

[grim lotus]

thanks

[south kayak]

Something I need

[grim lotus]

when did the patch goes live?

[oblique trail]

CB if ST, BB if 2+ targets

[tawny geode]

banezi how come

im confused

[fleet sorrel]

@young swan blow up

[south kayak]

Reap procs more with when cleaving a target

[oblique trail]

Because of Reap the Storm procs

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-sad-explode-gif-15295996165959499721

[oblique trail]

@fleet sorrel explode

[tawny geode]

ok

[oblique trail]

how do I play frost dk

just press what glows?

[south kayak]

Spontaneous combustion

[fleet sorrel]

sure

[tawny geode]

@oblique trail @south kayak yeah but dont i press both before another ramp anyways ? or for aoe i press BB into another ramp into BB again

[oblique trail]

You don't

[tawny geode]

fml then mate

[oblique trail]

You get them both off regardless basically, so you'd just BB > CB > Ramp instead of CB > BB > Ramp

[south kayak]

Both? That’s naughty

[tawny geode]

yh so it doesnt really matter which comes first

[south kayak]

Lmao am I the only one seeing the innuendos here

[tawny geode]

or i am being dumb

idek

[oblique trail]

You could argue that CB > BB is better because of 15% more Bloodcraze, but I just prio getting more BB casts out asap in case targets die, which would lead to less Reap chances

[south kayak]

[tawny geode]

😂

[oblique trail]

(I also just blindly follow Revves because I'm a sheep and he recommends this)

[neon wagon]

where can i find like builds and stuff

[tawny geode]

📉

[neon wagon]

on discord

[oblique trail]

in #dps-faq

[neon wagon]

ty

[grim lotus]

nice cat

[south kayak]

Most important thing for fdk is to always cast Oblit and a generator in a row to generate KM procs during pillar of frost

[neon wagon]

ty

[south kayak]

For Banezi

[tawny geode]

i ll try like this, i always used CB first

[oblique trail]

I don't really get the description of the Fury M+ builds but they are correct for importing purposes

[tawny geode]

but seen biz press BB first

[south kayak]

Honestly I kinda got bored of fdk

Haven’t played in some time

[grim lotus]

guys when did the patch that buffs thane comes to live server?

in the next weekly reset?

[south kayak]

It’s coming the next reset

[grim lotus]

thanks

[neon wagon]

i always played arms only but its gonna be a GG for that spec now 😦

[pure echo]

Is the only way to parse well on queen to hold cds for the little spider adds on the bridge? I’ve always sent on the 2 larger guys when you first get knocked upstairs because they seem more potentially detrimental if not killed sooner.

[south kayak]

I guess you could tell people not to touch them while tank moves them to the 2 guys

And then you use your cds

If you’re in a pug then you can forget it lol

Just use on the important mobs

[pure echo]

Yeah, but i’m talking before you see the little adds. I looked through a few logs and it kinda seems like everyone just holds to pad on the little spiders. I’m not even sure how important it is they die asap in comparison.

[south kayak]

No clue but it seems like they’re not that important

[regal glade]

They are important in they put a stacking dot/debuff on the tank per melee per spider and it ends up trucking the tank

[red berry]

in larger AoE pulls, I’d prioritize BB

in 5 targets, I’d prioritize CB > BB

[vernal laurel]

Boys, anyone has a cook for Thane anger management talents?

[crude gate]

Is Thane fury going to out perform slayer for m+ after reset?

[vernal laurel]

In full AoE most likely

[crude gate]

I mean across the whole key

[vernal laurel]

Yes

[crude gate]

I don't think AM build is good for Thane because it doesn't get as much damage from ravager and reck. It's more about TB spam

[vernal laurel]

Yeah true, just want to see how it plays

[trail kernel]

im a warrior

[red berry]

i do wish bloodthirst procced the other mountain thane thing but that’d probably be too strong idk

it generating TB

[naive swallow]

dude the ping spikes / disconnect is back

[cyan storm]

Hello guys, do u guys know how to hide those "CDS party members" from my plater

[naive swallow]

been happening the past 2 days for me

[solar forum]

does anyone have a bloodbath% tracker wa they can share? it's not linked in the wa ressources

[quartz tulip]

Slayer was fun but honestly its a nothing burger passive stack. The thing that it changes about fury is that you need more weak auras if you want to track all those buffs, not that you need to.
But now they nerf the impact of those buffs even more... You dont play "Slayer", its straight up Fury Warrior. Such Hero! Much wow!
What is Slayer even supposed to represent? "Uh you do more damage and ... More bladestorm!"

[trail kernel]

yep

[vague pulsar]

That looks like Bigdebuff, try /bd

[radiant knot]

https://tenor.com/view/louisoix-final-fantasy14-minor-spelling-mistake-gif-26115358

[rotund ginkgo]

Yoink

[radiant knot]

gamin with the no vers

[pliant jackal]

[naive swallow]

the whole 2 days i thought my internet is fukt , frustrating

got people posting about that in augest , cant believe its still here

[static rock]

for a sec there I was so disgusted with such low haste but realized that's prot spec

[radiant knot]

its on my bdk lol

hes a straight shitter

[barren vapor]

Hey gang, is this build from the pins still the best for st in raid?

[sand crest]

yup

[eternal sundial]

itll remain the best until AM tuning is in

[sand crest]

afaik

[barren vapor]

Cool

Ty

[slim grotto]

Once we have both 636 crafts, is the goal to continue crafting 636 with sparks until we replace with full myth track? Or is it better to use those crests upgrading hero track to 626?

[eternal sundial]

upgrade stuff

crafts will remain 636 wep + 619 (from queen) embell doubler

until ur done with crest spend

[strange basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[livid dagger]

guys, what flasks and food should i use to raid and M+?

[slim grotto]

wait so I shouldnt have crafted 636 bracers and left at 619?

[pearl sequoia]

alchemical chaos flasks and for food ideally feast, otherwise i just use beledars bounty

[clever belfry]

ring tech if you're not a queen ring owner...

[clever belfry]

636 bracers is a rather big waste
bracers have a super small stat budget (about half of chest, legs, head)
and generally are worth less per ilvl than trinkets too
So if you had any reasonable things to upgrade in those slots you lost value, yes

[summer quail]

What's the ring tech?

[clever belfry]

craft recraft
2nd ring uppie now free

esp if you got a myth track ring and no queen very rare this is likely a good spend of 90 crests, but do sim thyself

[eternal sundial]

I mean i have double hero track ring with good stats i thankfully dont have to do anything crafting until bracer uppie

So glad

[clever belfry]

no queen ring = noob

[eternal sundial]

Correct

But weve seen 1 drop

So far

[clever belfry]

split more

7 splits

[sand crest]

got ansurek ring in vault this week : D

[eternal sundial]

No splits sir

[clever belfry]

7

[sand crest]

wonder how much better thane makes the ring

probably not anything significant

[clever belfry]

Probably 0

[eager thorn]

P sure it does a bit more nature damage so slightly

[clever belfry]

cause overwhelm works on the ring too

so its a massive nothing burger

[sand crest]

ring was a 1% upgrade as fury but 4% as prot

massive

[eager thorn]

Ye its not that big of a dps upgrade for me

Prob just gonna let other ppl have

[slim grotto]

Anyone crafting engi bracers/helm? Are tinkers worthless now since brez is a now an item?

[eternal sundial]

Crafting a helm is weird choice

• wrist is most likely ur embell slot

[night relic]

what do u guys drop for intervene on nw if its worth

storm bolt?

[eternal sundial]

Movespeed

[open crag]

are gonna be moving to AM for m+ at some point when all nerfs/buffs are live ?

[eternal sundial]

Possibly

[barren coral]

is the tier set proccing with RA spells?

[fervent yoke]

Guys I have hero tier chest and shouders, champ legs and LFR gloves. Should I use my mark of spelunker on hero gloves? any reason to hold onto it?

where can I find the sim for fury?

nvm i dumb its in FAQ

[sharp field]

Im 617 Ilvl 2278 M+ Score and i cant get a fucking invite for even 7-9 keys

why?

[golden hare]

you are but a mere droplet in an ocean of dps

[eager thorn]

people run intervene in m+?

[sharp field]

its damn frustrating. i wann play the game. but last 3 days ive literally logged in. q'd for dungeons for like a half hour to not get an invite. then i just end up logging out xD feels like shit

[night relic]

cancels all dmg from first boss retch

[golden hare]

you have a key in your inventory you can start a group around 👍

[night relic]

on nw

[sharp field]

11 nw

[night relic]

other keys idk if it has uses

[eager thorn]

fair just feel like losing stun doesnt seem super worth

[eager thorn]

theres like a million dps that insta sign up

[night relic]

yeah its more for prot warrs

[slim grotto]

you're saying its not worth engi bracers and do embell belt?

[atomic tapir]

is the mountain thane changes being released on weekly maintenance

[golden hare]

ye

[atomic tapir]

thanks 👍

[fervent yoke]

I just did a 7 with Thane it was pretty fun lightning blast feels great in AoE

[kindred swallow]

Is it even worth to talent into shattering throw for xalatath afix?

[golden hare]

not at all

[kindred swallow]

It feels like such a shit ability rn

Last time i used it i think it was at razageth heroic lol

[rotund ginkgo]

im still playing with a 610 ring

erga help me

[golden hare]

invite me

[rotund ginkgo]

are u eu?

[golden hare]

ya

ergaw-turalyon

[rotund ginkgo]

omg uwu

lemme droptimize best ring for me rq

[golden hare]

[rotund ginkgo]

better not be that dogshit gb

[golden hare]

hope it is gb, i want the belt from there

[rotund ginkgo]

theres a belt there?

i got the 2h from there in my vault as myth track

talk about poggies

[golden hare]

W

[rotund ginkgo]

cant wait for thane tbh

[smoky vale]

wtf give me it

[rotund ginkgo]

no its mine :3

@golden hare

my vers so fucking low apparently the db ring sims best

lmao

[smoky vale]

ragish do you forgive me ive been playing aug this week :3

[rotund ginkgo]

burn in hell infidel

[eager thorn]

ive done like 10 gb runs and not even seen it yet :)

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/flame-thrower-leonardo-dicaprio-lance-flamme-burn-burning-gif-21661296

[eager thorn]

i love gb i love gb i love gb

[golden hare]

[rotund ginkgo]

ive seen it drop once

[smoky vale]

only 10, ive done like 30

[rotund ginkgo]

and i havent seen the wep drop at all

[eager thorn]

its the last upgrade i can get outside of raid

[rotund ginkgo]

ive done like 4 arakaras for my trinkie :3

[eager thorn]

and i just cant get it

[smoky vale]

0 weapon 3 rings 1 trinket

[rotund ginkgo]

and my friend traded to me

[eager thorn]

ye i've only seen gb wep drop once

and it had speed too but isnt as good as my hc silken wep

[smoky vale]

1st ara kara i did on my aug got me a heroic sacbrood

on a 10 btw

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[rotund ginkgo]

serves u right

[kindred swallow]

You guys have been getting gear?

All i get is 50 gold

[rotund ginkgo]

almost goated

[eager thorn]

hot

[rotund ginkgo]

i got almost 0 raid gear

im just not getting anything

all other platers win

the council

[lavish mauve]

Weapon is nice to get

[rotund ginkgo]

do u see a raid weapon?

i dont

i see a vault weapon

[lavish mauve]

Because you save a lot of crests

Yeah true

[rotund ginkgo]

i got the wrists

[lavish mauve]

But its just nice to save crests on your vault pick haha

[smoky vale]

except its prob one of the best vault items you could havw gotten

[rotund ginkgo]

so far in raid ive received
2 hero tier pieces
2 wrists (1 hero 1 myth)
1 normal shoulders (on week 1)

oh and 1 hero track boots

[eager thorn]

i got 2 hero weps from silken on same kill

cos i couldnt get into 9s for crafted yeyt

[lavish mauve]

Imagine raiding casual and being one of the few that plays mythic+

[rotund ginkgo]

oh mb i also got champ track 1h and shield

i have yet to actively win an item that the rest of the group needs

[tidal kindle]

Miss ergaW

The W stopd for Wise

[smoky vale]

ive gotten champ wrist instantly replaced by pvp and heroic brood ring. also got heroic legs but i already had 4p and it was because no one wanted it

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/briLN.gif

[rotund ginkgo]

isnt full 7 like 2100 rio though

[kindred swallow]

Man i dont even have 2 piece yet

[smoky vale]

how

[kindred swallow]

I have the legs on hero and thats it lol

[smoky vale]

you just need 1 item from raid

[rotund ginkgo]

start catalyzing?

[eager thorn]

ye but ur not gonna catalyst gear if u cant get hero track rlly

[rotund ginkgo]

at the very least catalyze a champ track

to get 2p bonus

i have friends not using weathered crests/runed crests

[smoky vale]

then do m+ to get hero gear?

[kindred swallow]

Yeah i didnt want to catalyze a champion

[rotund ginkgo]

because "they can get hero track"

but theyre stuck 599 ilvl and not get invites

and when they do they deal no dam

???

[golden hare]

may he rest in peace...

[eager thorn]

not everyone can do all content yknow