#fury
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the thing i find funny, i never met a "bad" ret, or a bad "fdk", they're all doing the same.
Thane is much more of a aoe talent tree for m+
Why would it ever be better on st
i mean, we're alse a 3 buttons classe, kinda
We align fine with them now if they take the talent for breath to be 1.5mins
but...
Not hitting buttons
but is it that much better in aoe that it makes up for the lack in ST?
yeah plus I like walking on the golden orbs
feel like this should be mentioned more if true
but it also prob depends on how much myth gear ur obtaining
could I get a vid rec for M+ build? running slayer and I have mostly figured out the rotation from just playing, but I would like to level up my gameplay
video guides go out of date quickly so most dont make videos
i think jeventes has one
but not 100% sure
well spending 90 to upgrade a sub par piece to 636 vs spending 75 to get a myth track item from 623 to 639, theres a clear winner
jeventes noob lol
upgrading hc tier with mythic crests is still infinitely more impact than crafting mythic bracers
coulda been +2 but tank forced us to wipe on a ninja he did
Try me
feel like that should 100% be mentioned in the wowhead guide then
or some guide
born to shit forced to wipe ๐
if the wowhead guide spent time explaining the intricacies of upgrading and crafting correctly the page would be too long for people to read
Real
people tried to make spreadsheets and failed to make ones that capture everything
it doesnt need that though it could legit just have a line saying "Bracers are a suboptimal use of gilded crests and its recommended to only craft it to 619"
like what you've said in 3 sentences has been enough to tell me i made a mistake
i mean its certainly not a mistake
tbh crafting at 619 is also a waste of runed crest imo unless ur using the free crest from the ansurek quest
if the crests are much better used elsewhere i'd call it a mistake
crafting is weird, it basically seems like you don't actually craft and you just get gold and mats and have someone else craft
I don't get that at all
you mean something like this?
there it is
yes i didn't see that
I told noxiv give him a firm handshake and a wet kiss if he showed me how to get gud. He donowalled me. Shocker lmao
Open ur eyes noobslap
its still not this easy you legit need to consider every piece youve gotten to even determine what slot you craft in, what slots your guildies will craft in, what pieces of gear will be easily obtainable and uncontested
I was looking at the crafted section
or maybe something like this?
ok yeah im just not looking in the right places
sims will also help you decide how to use your crests for the best upgrades
but ultimately it's not a huge deal, you'll get more crests next week
what would we do without the robot
appreciate you pointing those out
yucky
idk im dumb and i just do what the guides say
guide says to craft weapon and bracers so i did
Evening, does haste effect bladestorm? Just got a on use haste trink but idk when in my rotation to use it
Depends on what u want to achieve but most did that regardless
idk crafting is too complicated to be captured by a guide
if its 1min30 cd macro it to recklessness and dont think about it
you will almost never make a mistake copying rwf raiders though
I looted some cute wrists with a bow on it so I made a blanky
bro i copied rikus talents once and they were beans
at least since the introduction of crafting copying their crafts has lined up with what more casual raiders want to do
bc it was like his 8th alt or some shit
have you seen revvez silken court talents
SMF gaming? ๐
Donโt want to use it before bladestorm if bladestorm isntโt buffed by haste was my thinking
i dont have them on hand but its like cleave without the cleave cdr
p sure its hasted idk idc just use 90s trinkets with avatar or reck
tbh im not even getting any myth gear atm so crests arent a prob for me but its smth ill definitely take into account for future seasons, ty for the tips and showing me im very blind
some things you just learn through experience
If u want to minmax u only send on myth track gear with gilded
spongie did u see our broodtwister kill
with the Mountain Thane and Colossus change coming, does it change something, is slayer still the best?
but honestly, you were slightly inefficient for one week, and you'll get more crests next week; it's really not going to hurt you or make any real difference in the long run - don't worry about it
we got the priest angel thing where everyone was dead but the boss didnt reset
yeah its my 2nd season playing retail so still tryna learn stuff
Ok great then i donโt have to put any more thought into that. Just add it to my cd macro and zug
i mean even here you technically didnt make much of a mistake since you're not spending crests on hc pieces while a mythic vault would save you a few mythic upgrades worth of crests
you mean "not the worst"
just bled out or?
link?
Does that also apply to a weapon embellishment? I feel like that might the exception to the generally
biggest advice I can give is learn, but don't hyper focus - people endlessly agonize over stupid 1% shit that doesn't really matter as much as just putting in time and playing well
no, but the weapon itself is an exception (which is why it also says weapon upgrades are best upgrades)
anyways I think I'll switch arms
Yeah, mb, meant it about the weapon
idk you cant really fuck up crafting too much unless you just dont craft a mythic weapon asap when the season calls for it
yeah like I think i wasted a few runed crests in the earlier weeks but im capped now so its nbd
learning that you can add a parameter to macros that casts your ravager or champ spear at your feet is something I found out recently, helps alot
i didnt craft mythic wep s1 df big troll
honestly I dont feel they have achived a proper identity for arms - but could be just me
I fucked up on one of my crafted pieces and made boots instead of wrists thinking I still needed brez bracers
Not for us though
will probably learn big bonk build for arms, but stats dont line up yet
Why not?
two words, titan's grip
So?
you can get 2 myth weps tho
^
not sure how it'd affect embellishment choice though
For M+ players that could be an option
yea
Since they likely focus for Duskthreat lining over Ascendance
Most people craft for raid tho
This is all under the assumption you can get a myth weapon very quickly, most people aren't that lucky
My sim showed the embelishment to be like a 0,2% upgrade so I feel its not even worth stressing about
i crafted cos ilvl going up gives me dopamine
if you have it great if not .. doesnt really matter that much
and ofc big wep is good
Ascendance gains value in ST, Duskthreat gains value in AOE or situations where u drop combat more frequently
skipping the weapon craft as fury is omega troll for your guild
If u care about raiding yes, otherwise who cares
Yeah I know, but the value is not "really that big"
Most people show up undergeared first raids
I will never use a "be above this % for stat" healers are trained to no heal warriors I swear
From what?
so imo craft upgrades and dont try to Optimize it too much (wait forever)
even then waiting for a second weapon vault assuming you even got the first is cooked if you only do m+
Ascendance is actually better multitarget too, Dusk is just better in M+ due to dropping the buff in combat
from the embelisments
Listen, my guild is bad, we're still being held up on H Ansurek, meaning I prob won't get 2 myth weapon anytime soon
Is an iLevel of 611 good enough to start heroic raid prog?
Yeah thats what i said ๐ฌ
Ascendance is so fucking strong if you can keep max stacks up through just a couple pulls and all CDs
I mean in pugs realistically ur gonna have a rough time upkeeping thats probably why its not recommended over dusktreat
I wouldnt call it "so fucking strong"
I was responding to the "dusk in aoe" part
big if though
idk it's pretty strong
good luck keeping up ascendance in dawnbreaker
Oh i said "or", im sleepy i didnt realise
but yeah a lot of dungeons it's just not feasible
that's why the if is there
How many gilded crests do.you get off first mythic raid boss
It was supposed to be "on"
even for GB its kinda cooked
Just any dungeon where ur not premade gl keeping it up
old warrior's soul vibes
ilvl of 625 is recommended
Pretty sure they give 10
Cool ty
Doesn't last two in H give like 15?
depends on context I guess.. We say "our set bonus is super weak" and we say the emb is "so fucking strong" you would think that one is much better output wise than the other ๐
think every boss gives 10 and last two 15
Relatively speaking our tier set is pretty weak
For heroic raiding? Not mythic.
He's trolling btw
this was a joke you can enter hc at ilvl 600
if not lower
you are more than fine at 611
as others said, it is all relative
611 is prob good enough to start H queen in all honestly
It has just been a pain in the ass trying to find a group to bring me
pugging is rough unless you already know the culture
can only recommend finding a guild that suits your times
10 and 15. Don't quote me tho
Puggin is still rough cause of people who don't know what they're doing
people that know what they're doing tend to raid with their guild ye
Is heroic that much different from normal, from all of the videos I watched it isn't
5/8 pugging is not that bad
maybe adds a few mechanics here and there and you need to actually pay attention to not die but its still very casual
Puggin on the last two bosses is cancer, court before the nerf was a massive headache
brood and nexus are bigger gear checks and where u will probably hit a wall for a while, and ansurek is a fair bit harder than normal
I know on brood you have to know what eggs you want to be popping
the rest is piss
Problem with pugging is that you need to start as soon as the raid comes online if you fall behind a couple of weeks you wont get invite
so you have to "prog" with the pug
Some of them just suck cause the mechanics themselves just hit harder and already sucked, like princess
From what I've seen on process, don't fuck up on your portal or suck, and don't stand in lines
do you place portals as melee in hc?
most important thing is for every player with lines to aim them properly
i know you get flagged so you cant get that mechanic in mythic
if every portal ends up same side of the room ur cooked
ive done hc princess 4 times, never got a portal on me
People are pretty brain dead, my own guild that we carry some people for the lower bosses they just don't move
ig ur immune on hc aswell
But on a copium level, do people realistically think that a thane swap in m+ will increase our overall? I feel that the gap between me and frostdks, rets and even other classes like outlaw rogues are increasing as I go up in keys and gear
it sucks ๐ฆ
it will probably help but fury just fundamentally isnt built to blast anything other than st in m+ rn
i mean, we have been getting nerfed that past couple of weeks to a full month
yeah and our "buffs" seems to be "changes" instead of buffs
like they change some numbers around but the net value is neutral
and arms cathing strays ๐
Honestly wish they keep bufffing AM more, I loved that playstyle over RA
playing mountain thane for mythic plus will be nice
until you gotta melt a certain mob
thats what rogues are for
Let me pop my juice in slayer and blast in M+
but my thor fantasy
I just prefer AM cause that way u have something for pretty much every pack
you get reck/rava on 30 sec ish instead of 1min30
just feels better imo
For big pulls I'm popping both and normally odens fury is back up for the next small pull
ye for like 10s the cadence is very good
anything slightly different from that and you will wanna rope
idk that patch is still a month away and still being changed
Wait, for real?
btw @edgy widget , does the soft cap on roar and OF affect the bleed part? or does the bleed do full dmg whether its applied to 5-8 targets or 100
yeah from 8 to 5
yeah odyn and thunderous from 8 to 5
Sigh
OF yes, Roar we dunno yet
what we lack in dmg we make up for in utility! ... oh wait
We have pretty good utility now Iโd say
I mean Wars got a pretty good kit now, lots of lockdown
shockwave has defo helped a lot compared to SL
Rallying Cry
Rally should be better in 5m, but it's good in raid
Esp when you take the improved talent for shockwave which is really op
Surprised they didnโt nerf it tbh
plus u get even more util out of thane because aoe stormbolt : D
This cooks so well in keys
Yeah it owns
I think dks need that so they keep their intended niche
rallying cry should rally every add in a 50 yard radius on the same pixel
Rogues have that, grappling
thats for sardines, I want one for sharks
now that unhinged replaced hurricane for rava/bs I want banner back
They should give us big ass harpoons, not like survival hunters tho
I miss rogues DFA
will the cap reduction on roar make spear more attractive, isnt the "lockdown" effect kinda nice in m+?
more tanks need mass grip
dps probably don't need it though
If the mobs are giga stacked, for sure
But that's hardly ever the case
Yeah thatโd be nice for fixing grouping of ads for sure
yea the radius is reaaaly small
DH basically has mass grip
abo limb is kinda buggy though
Abo limb on queen during infest gave me a heart attack
Remember the 1 week lasting grip on warriors?
doesnt one of the vdh sigils function like a grip?
Sigil of chains yes
I've never seen them using it lol
Did u not play in season 3 and 4 of Dragonflight
I think I even remember a havoc using that on 2nd boss of nw
Is thane about to be the beez knees in M+?
Stopped after S1
You missed nothing
He missed not being able to play because of exodia
We will definitely try it out, but low ST on bosses will be it's downfall yet again
not really much lower than Slayer
Haven't done a single key yet with thane, how does it feel compared to slayer rotation wise?
We replace ww with clap, and use the procs, is that it?
Somewhat
what's the numbers for the trinket slots?
13/14
thanks!
Damn the ring from Queen does way more damage with thane as well, since it does nature damage

overwhelm definitely doesnt increase its damage more than the miniscule nature part
I got the 606 version and does 0.6% overall in keys with slayer, haven't tried it in raid yet
can anyone explain why the CDr m+ affix is fucking up Bladestrom CD? at least on WAs?
bc after getting that buff not all the CDr wich we SHOULD get speaking about unrelenting onslaught stacks are applied correctly? is applied correctly to the WA but my action bar is like 4~6 seconds off
probably just an issue with your weakaura, because the actual CD is working correctly
aight ty im gonna figure it out 
i have the same problem
WA shows me bs is off cd but it still has a couple of seconds left when i mouseover my actionbar
like it should give me 15 sec CDr (it glows red on 3 stacks)
it does on the WA
but not on the actionbar
yup had this issue all day today, saw luxthos updated warrior weak aura, but still happening
while the CDr with both AM and UO stacks works fine its only not calculating the affix buff not only that its giving us LESS CDr while the affix is ective?
I have it too, its just spaghetti blizzard special
This affix is blizzard issue xd
stop having a shit ui :+
So whatโs the deal with thane? We switching to that next week for m plus? Or do we lose too much boss damage?
so why is the CDr calculated wrong? (if its sarcasm i cant read it out of the text LULW)
idk affix seems to work fine for me, using a regular action bar
idk weakauras might just be bugged here
i havent seen a weakaura that handles it correctly
I have ye olden times action bars and itโs fine on them
but i assume that literally no one cares to fix it cause it happens only once every (number of unique xalatath affixes) weeks on key levels that dont matter for push keys (11 and lower)
WA has had issues with tracking %cdr on top of static cdr for a long time
happens
maybe this affix will be the impetus for investigation into the wow api to fix it
so you are implaying that it might be an UI error (using elvui) or the WA addon is doing sth strange?
im assuming its non trivial
could cook and just replace the one wa with an actionbar oly moly
worst of both worlds
stop right there
not a step further sir
elvui actionbar 14
buttons:1
789
Even though Blade Storm is not on cooldown due to M+ Afix, it wasn't just my weak aura that couldn't be cast.
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๐ง ๐ฎ ๐งโ๐พ ๐
thats thw wrong order spongie
man kneeling is at the end
ive done that
sorry to hear
didnt we have the reap the storm proc chance in aoe convo a few weeks ago
or was that some1 else
I'm sure this was easy for a lot of you but I'm proud of this. Took me a little over 70 tries.
#fury message i got there in the end man..
To me the king is anda
He is the King of Week Aura.
However, I am afraid that asking him questions every time will bother him, so I am getting help from AI these days.
anda's saying its not that
1-(4/5)^5
oh
i assumed its this
i know 1-(4/5)^5 is the simc application
is there enough weakauras documentation for chatgpt to be able to actually give advice on how to code for it or
Does chatgpt actually give reasonable results for modern weakaura api?
there is forum talk on it
is that not 67%
Hi guys, i was playing prot but now i wanna try fury, easiest way to get 2 hands weapons??
it is but the question is whether this is actually the way the game handles it
loot spec arms and craft one ig
I am unconvinced of it tho, so imma do some very cringe empirical testing tomorrow
...
Im looting as fury and crafting one is expensive but ty!
change your loot spec to arms if you want 2hs
yea that was the formula i used after i pepegad it the first time. assumed thats how it worked but who knows i guess
Yes, the codes written by gpt actually work without any problems.
Even if something is different from what you want or an error occurs, you can talk about it again and we will correct it appropriately.
better off to just go to the #ui-addons-manager channel, or the WeakAuras discord than to ask ChatGPT; it gets a lot of things right... and a lot of things wrong lol
good thing that u can notice quite fast if the WA does what u want it to do
im surprised theres even enough modern WA discourse for it to learn off of
miau
I asked many questions on the WeekAura Discord channel, but there were many cases where there were no answers or they were late.
Simple code modifications are aided by gpt.
but can chatgpt make my plater change mob health bars when it has certain stacks of a debuff

cant u rip that out of some other pack and just change id and stacks
surely some random dot spec has that available
ye that doesnt seem too bad to just brute force figure out
weird

you didnt miss much ..
was just people joining for 1 minute at a time to watch our streams and then they left
WeekAura questions that require creativity are asked to various Discord channels or Anda, and simple code additions or modifications are asked to gpt.
A very convenient feature for a farmer like me with no programming knowledge lol
is treachorus BIS for M+ or just for raid?
bis for both
shit to use in both 
just pulled a mongus card
holy shit
Any general tips for pumping harder in m plus. Feel like so worried about survival on high keys
what do you consider high keys
So is Mountain Thane going to be usable now?
fuck, that trinket is the worst shit i ve ever used
definitely in m+
the orb and pad spawn in your front right
if you play around that fact it is midly annoying at worst
9,10 and higher
When patch .5 arrives and I use AM builds I don't have to worry about Opportunist Aura? (I wonder if Rampage has higher priority than Opportunist+RB)
I find it very inconvenient that the Opportunist Aura spawns and disappears slightly late.
up to 10s you only really need to press spellreflect and er above that you probably need to plan actual survival strats ig cant help beyond that
but if you feel like your cd usage is sub par maybe watch some m+ blasters and try to understand what they do with them
noxiv and crit have vods i believe
And Iโm using transmitter in keys too, it feels like the rng hates me and gives me a mechanic every time I pop it
And Iโve kinda figured out survival trying to do more dmg
again you have a full 15 seconds to solve tasks and you can guarantee every task will be solvable within the next 2 seconds
i think i have only failed to solve a task in m+ when i literally am not paying attention or when the dawnbreaker ship moves and i lowroll a soak pad
๐งโ๐พ ๐งโโ๏ธ
or just macro mark to avatar and call it a day 
JA CLAPPA 
Hitting transmitter then full cd storm on full pack is truly amazing
are you guys switching trinkets for this weeks' affix?
you guys werent joking
Quite annoying you miss half your attacks on the affix, then some classes can just blow it up
m+ is significantly easier at 7-8 than 1-6
0-4 is the first time ive seen this kind of scenario in a PVE game
its like pseudo elo hell
how good are brd items looking?
Try +12 coming from 11
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It will be right back to shit
nah im not beta testing that
ill chill at +9
im not pushing mythic raid maybe 4/8 max, so i dont have any need to stress myself with that
no need to stress if u are playing JA CLAPPA 
not in raid
if those rb bt buffs go through
hoooly clappa in m+ gonna blast
imo fury is a bit underpowered right now and/or ret is op, I tied dmg with the 600 ret who is 12 ilvls lower and I got an 87 while he got a 64
both
We got nerfed already right? No more nerfs incoming

rets damage profile is a lot smoother, since he can burst every 30 seconds
are you including nerfs on ptr as "already"
No I am honestly asking because I donโt know what is coming, do we have nerfs on the ptr coming? Does ret?
more slayer nerfs and another round of ners on our aoe reducing the number of targets to 5 from 8 before dr hits
Hmm, seems unwarranted because our aoe is our only good thing and we already donโt seem to outperform other same-ilvl dps from my observations running 4-6 m+ a lot
our burst aoe*
I guess the only silver lining is that a lot of packs are not more than 5 but still itโs gonna be lame
our burst aoe is still quite high (currently) and since it lines up very well in raids we "outperform" other speccs
fury is actually a good class guys 
the thing that annoys me the most is the fact we getting nerfs without any compensation, our ST isnt really that good compared to other speccs and they could have shifted the damage a little bit
Did Warcraft logs return the rashaโnan fight to include the adds again? Looks like it from what Iโve seen.
JA CLAPPA 
i posted the dungeon 10 seconds ago
real and true
Look at all those low io rats
fake picture
If you really wanna tick someone off deny them when they are 200 io higher than you itโs hilarious
i dont think they care
I use to do it in DF for fun before I started going for title I got a lot of hate messages
^ this is the reality
Nothing to do w being a warrior
now no one will queue for this one
acting like been a warrior doesn't effect getting into keys is troll as fuck but you know that
just tell them pp big, gets you in everytime
It is also like 2am if ur eu
Yeah there isn't a meta yet bro, and while it's a small factor, you're gonna sit in queue on ANY DPS unless you're the highest ilvl/io or both
Hello sir plz inv me i use 3 weapons to slap stuff, 2 in my hands and 1 in the trousers big dmg
I play several classes, pug on most of them, it's the same waittime
NA
Ew
I promise you, if you're 2500io 622ilvl and app for a 7 you're getting invited as warr
and you'll sit in a queue much longer as a warrior over the more valued specs, as youre fully aware of bro.
You won't, actually, it's literally identical for all DPS, but whatever makes you feel better.
Can't argue with someone who only apps as their 1 spec/class and wants to believe their experience is unique.
can you prove you play shadow priest tho
I played a dirty SP alt in S4
It does happen but p rarely
Like once a day at most
My mage is 617, and like 1900 io, but you can see my 5/8M/2850 main, and I sat in queue for 45m the other day
But could just be a better warr in queue
im not getting invited (i forgot to set to q as dps and im arms)
Because noone cares
They want someone who has timed the key and has gear, and eventually they'll find it
The answer on every DPS class+spec is "run your own key", or make friends, always
And once you start running your own key, you'll start doing the EXACT SAME THING when inviting
or play pvp and not have to deal with any of this bullshit
But convince yourself it's ok, you're being smart
Most of the time making my own keys i wont even invite dps till i get a solid tank or healer
Cos i dont wanna make other ppl wait 20 mins if no signs
joining keys early help too
Which is fair too
And no point filling dps in 2 mins if you can wait longer
Idk man 10 min queue into isle of conquest makes me sad
good thing epic bgs aren't rated
Bgs are best form of pvp
Want to be my friend Linc?
bgb is goated yes
We are forever friends bae, loveyu
BUT UR NA WE STILL CANT PLAY FFS
Time to move bro
wym pushing week 2
Idk what bgb is
Can i rent a room?
Linc what do you think of AM Thane after changes? Too much single target lost?
Jk the rent being triple will make you breakdown and cry; I'll come to EU
I just queue epic bg cos big fun area
should i just spam 9s?
battleground blitz, the rated soloque
yeah
??
LMAO
Rated pvp is cringe
Silm says the math is only 2% loss; if he's right, I think AM thane will be the play
bro has a team
I hope Sil is wrong
Which sucks cuz AM with these trees is a desynced mess
so hes feeling generous
which addon ist this?
brother
m+ weakaura
2% for AM thane vs RA slayer or AM vs RA thane
I've pushed multiple seasons without team and I know
JA CLAPPA 
Apparently vs RA slayer
Playing am with this cooldown affix must be weird for cds
xan are u clapping
as have i
so u should know
its 2% ST loss for thane in aoe talents (with RA) vs slayer in aoe talents (with RA)
that it does matter
cuz if im 2.4k
i wont get into keys i need
not now or ever
periodt
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decent gold
nice bro
^
made a goldcap from keys
So yeah, AM thane for higher keys for sure
But slayer probably still better when shit dies quick
kek I know that dk
What would you class as higher keys
i dont think ur playing AM until 11.0.5
Like 10+?
So with AM it'd be what like 10% lower for AM thane vs RA slayer?
Or push only
thy
pvp plays AM
prob like 7-8% or something
pvp has different scaling
with the culling cyclone nerf are we just going to run brutal finish in everything instead?
it doesnt matter
good thing no one was talking about pvp
Most likely, esp w the ramp buff
no, it's because you get more gos
good thing we are talking Fury
pvp players try not to make everything about pvp impossible
lol
its literally just buhsac
I mean theyโre talking about m+ fury
bro literally said AM has no case use, and that's patently untrue atm
Donโt you run am on mythic brood
i literally did not say that lmfao
ur just making shit up for fun

Ye to make sure BS cooldown lines up I think
myrt are u gonna clap
I run AM for running delves cuz idgaf
finally prot warr is playable guys
who should I clap
fym playable
it gives you reck for every add set
I'm gonna clap whatever sims high
thats about it
he doesn't know the secret tech
What language is ja clappa
it also lets u send an extra bladestorm if u wanna gamble at the end of plat 1
am clappa will save fury
I ran RA
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but its funnier as fury
cause u are a tank disguised as a dps
Ur built diff tho

fury is a tank disguised as a dps regardless of hero talents
you're fucking unkillable
esp in 10s
RA on Broodtwister is if you have plenty add damage as is
Try pressing cds when adds spawn on brood
im gonna be honest i think RA literally doesnt matter ever
Ez killable
If you're basically carrying add damage on your own then AM is what you use
you just play AM and let other people who actually do ST kill the boss
Sounds like u need better tanks
What Banezi said
AHHH
whats this crab
We had another fury as AM + 2 FDKs + 1 hunter who refused to play ST
I WILL MELEE YOU FOR 294MIL
So I went RA
why are u sending crabs
ye but
thane is even funnier
Just looking for opinion. I can solo t8 and t9s easily. Im not suggesting t10s are hard but if I want a partner What would be the Best or top 3 class/specs to go with ?
But I also have enough gear that I had OF/BS for every pack even as RA
hunter just trolling
Nah i have a modicum of self restraint and usually wait like 2-3s
Yep
Plus the other fury in my guild gets 1 shot first normally
Stepping down ranks for less raids has been an emotionally trying endevour thusfar
any tank
Thane with Thunderfury is real trolling
2-3 sec? BRO how
have u killed it pre or post nerf
post nerf the boss has no dps check
like at all
I genuinely don't know if you're so out of touch with the average player experience or just trolling? point was, as a warrior it's more difficult to get into keys with equally as 'qualified' favoured classes (same score, ilvl and timed keys).
saying get friends is reasonable, it's a solution, but it doesn't mean there isn't a problem, a problem that should be fixed by blizzard with better balancing etc.
There's a lot of trolls in here, it's fair, but 99% of the time I see you chatting in here you're just doing some egotistical waffling.
Basically everyone but 50 guilds killed it post-nerf, we were 1 of them lol
Linc is not out of touch and isnt trolling. Statement false, didnt read the rest
Let me know when you've geared a mage to the exact same ilvl and io, then app'd the same keys, and how different it is
Ok well maybe not 2-3s on brood but m+ i do
(there are 9 billion other mages in q with 2 more rio and 1 more ilvl)
How the fuck is blizzard is going to balance where all classes and specs are invited equally
Idk i dont have issues getting into keys personally
^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
yeah its a problem but its also one thats just not solvable, balance could be as narrow as 5% delta and people would still call the bottom performers "unplayable dogshit" despite it literally being irrelevant
Clappabae gets it
people early season dont fucking care what class are you
IF MY 7 DOESN'T HAVE DK/ENH/AUG WHY AM I HERE
Im not getting any invites to keys on my 595 ilvl FDK without set while im applying to +9's idk whats going on
(aug is slowing down my +5 significantly)
He literally said been a warrior doesn't effect getting into keys. that's categorically false and to act otherwise is in my opinion been completely out of touch with the average pug experience with the class.
Im supposed to get all the invites as meta
Do they not know WHO THE JEV TV IS BRO?
just have some ilv and minimum rio and as long as people have lust in group they dont care
its a perception issue more than it is a balance issue, although i will agree key balance is absolute dogshit currently
its really bad
the problem is 1%ers like @restive peak are taking all our invites in m+. ๐
IDK MAN MAYBE I NEED TO REREREREREREROLL MORE FOTM INJECTION MAGE
was solid but he fucked up the % so our 5min timer turned into a 1min
xd
No, it matters actually for high keys, it doesn't matter at the lower level
NO NEED TO REROLL
idk I remember him as ret
PRESS N AND GO CLAPPA
one day
played ery ethically
I MADE MY DK YOU MAKE MAGE NOW WE BALL
Its not false tho, unless ur pushing keys u get in just fine
CLAPPA 
1%ers like me are rerolling for key push
he really liked me playing mage so he added me and invited me to keys quite often
But i just spend money on jevknight
I'll just stay warr for raids
Bro try UH, fr, it's a BANGER
I crafted 1h wep ๐
one day...
Uh>frost?
you're literally like top 10 in the world with an m+ team trying to tell average players it makes no difference. ๐
linccknight
arms will be a banger too....
I did LFR queen at 545 ilvl and I beat some people at 600+ lol
top 10 week 2
:icant
Im rank 14 without a team
In raid or in high keys? Seems like it'd be turbo ass in low keys
of course you don't notice any issues
Yeah homie I already stated I play several alts and exclusively pug them, nice try
Deadlinc
Iโm an average shitter that has no troubles getting into 9s
people who unironically think ranks matter early season are delulu
Only keys man, I ain't gonna do mythic on my key alt til reclears are 1 day
Same, 623 ilvl 2450io
Same ilvl but i have 15 more io get fked
not trying to push being 300 ilv below max
3ple frost dk
Im taking ur spot
I still have a 6 SV bc I don't need any gear from there and cba to run a higher one xdd
were you there with me the other night when it took 2 hours to get an invite at 2450 score, 623 ilvl into a 10 key that I'd already timed and was absolutely qualified for ๐ probably not. but yeh, warrior isn't an issue for it, when I see those same groups asking for an fdk, mage.
I'm gearing a mage, my teammate is gearing rsham for m+ atm and my team tank is gearing bear/pwar and slowly shifting towards vdh too
dude
delulu
Just sign to 11 or 9 problem solved
Yeah lets take this one edge case and pretend its that way for everything
I'm sure the +10 had "FDK ENH MAGE ONLY DONT BOTHER" in the caption
there are people who are 527 2600 rio
trying to get in
why would anyone take u over them
"I SHALL PICK 1 ANECDOTAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE YOUR HONOR AND THIS PROVES EVERYTHING"
were you here the other night at 4am EU time when i couldnt find a tank for 2 hours?
Understandable

have you ever seen the applications a +10 gets
they probably didnt even see you, let alone consider your class
it's not one case though? it's quite literally been this way for multiple expansions. so elitist egotistical types here telling you it's no issue when they run teams is hilarious.
properly out of touch
no kap
no kap on a stak
my fdk is Rawgish
Yeah brotato chip, I got S2 title on fury as a nobody with no team
I've been playing "at the top 1%" since S2 DF
(dropping ravager for bsv)
Only true part is that Linc is indeed elite, because he's yellow
Mate are you not reading what ppl say
ngl you were luckier than me
I had quit before that for several tiers
good for you bro, go tell someone about it, it's been like two minutes. ๐
Huge gamer
it's not one case though? it's quite literally been this way for multiple expansions. so elitist egotistical types here telling you it's no issue when they run teams is hilarious.
Proves your point is dumb < personal attacks < ignore
Very intelligent
Go cry to someone u cant get into keys, been about 30 seconds
Jev is elite cuz Jevdmg
are you his fucking fan boy or something? wish to be like him? ๐
If even Noobslap can get into keys, im sure u can too @covert void
go pick some herbs while waiting lmao
people arent disagreeing with you, but think of it this way: literally everyone has this issue
Yeah mate me agreeing with someone means Iโm #1 fan
this isnt a warrior exclusive lmao
This is the way
Nah he's a warrior who actually cares to play and improve, and so we get along and have respect
Imagine not being a Linccstyle fan, bro is goated
You wouldn't understand that because noone has ever respected your ignorant personality ever, so it's a foreign concept.
i fucking hate u
Actually true
people are literally disagreeing with me what are you on about. All this dude ever does is talk about how good he is, and everyone else is wrong ๐
Ragish is GOAT'd
me when linc talks
<3
Love you
bet
BASED
But do you know how good he is tho?
JA CLAPPA

JA CLAPPA
Anyone got a list of spell reflectable stuff in M+ atm
smoochies
JA CLAPPA time?
click on this channel once a day you'll probably have the essay in two minutes my g
@restive peak after DAYS of horrible keys
PLAY CLAPPA AND TANK IT
It's actually so laughable cuz there are like 50 warrs in here better than me
Maybe more
spreadsheet is pinned in #protection

it's not one case though? it's quite literally been this way for multiple expansions. so elitist egotistical types here telling you it's no issue when they run teams is hilarious.
Large
Are you just doing the worst dungeons or smth
abyssmally big
thank you homeslice
went from 2660 to 2709
I dont need an essay, i already know how good he is, u should see his fire mage. EVEN BETTER
Linccbust
Bro I swear they saw NW was loved
Cumbust?
The entire mage discord constantly talking about it
And were like "we can fix that"
True, insta invites from every group. they cant wait to have him in there. 0 issues.
@hard widget Mageventes udnercover
And now we have this monstrosity of a dungeon
Ragish pugging an 11NW is ludicrous behavior
Bro i just cause mayham when they get nerfed
๐
lmaoo
"DID U GUYS SEE"
"cant believe we got hit with a 0.1% nerf"
"someone write this on the bnet forums asap"
"OMG FIRE MAGE NERFED AGAIN?! WTF?!"
Haven't seen Bazed in a while actually
GUYS DID YOU KNOW THEY BUFFED OUR OTHER HERO TALENTS AND DIDNT NERF SHIT? LOOOOOL
ur so real queen
^ mage discord
Is he alive?
Fuckers
ofc
Ye Bazed was around yday
best part
he is owning rn
I think we can summon him
He was in here earlier today
@slim coral
You don't need a meta comp for NW you just need a small number of brain cells (pugs do not have them)
sv11
prot pal+disc+me+fdk+aug (eh, semi meta ig)
nw11
bear+rsham+ww+aug
gb
blood+surv+aug+rsham
I tried to replace Gajeel once bro
@rotund ginkgo
My ego was absolutely nuked
for a reason...
๐
fire mage crawling back to the sewers after losing 1% damage for half a week
I have never been absolutely smacked by a warrior like that, ever. Gajeel is literally a god
Gajeel is my sun, moon, and stars
LOL
hall of fame
This is the content we need
hoooly its josh
Ngl dooming in the mage discord is so much fun
You had that on hand scarily quickly
Oh no, everyone knows that's a ticket straight to therapy for self confidence issues
@winter shoal me in NW11 when my healer dies to a frontal then body pulls the miniboss before 2nd boss into the marauder pack because "he thought his tank can handle it" forcing us to wipe and brick the key
(they were premades)
Pug tanks and marauder frontals are truly demonic
This craft do u guys recommend Versa/Mastery or Haste/Mastery??
Bro real, it was so humbling but also mind boggling, because it was almost impossible to discern from details but his uptime is so perfect and the rotation never has those off-strays literally everyone else has
google translated the fucking Archimonde french
Sim it but it prob wont matter much either way
Like whatever the "mathematical" gap was on any important ability made from 1-2 mistakes, he NEVER made those
the tank was fine
the healer just literally ran before the tank
to the next pack
??
Buddy had places to be
HUH
It really is wild to see the robotic perfection
Yeah, I had to tell a guildy who rerolled to Warrior not to bother mimicking his logs. Dude is the GOAT
he played the cooked conditional rotation as well
if 81.3234 rage press rb if 81.3235 rage press bt
There are levels like anything man
for 8 more damage
Like you can work pretty hard if you're a competitive person to reach like where I've managed, but after this it's natural ability and that
this tier
I legit just have hyperfixation ADHD and decided I was gonna get as good as I could at WoW, but I'll never be as good as them
Me fr fr
Bro that's our boi
wallife goat
NOXIV IS ALMOST 3K
LETS GO
WE NEED HIM TO SANDBAG WARRIOR
THEY'LL NERF US
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
wallife neck and neck with revvez perma
everyone need to take bladestorm off their bar
anyone else thinks noxiv is a fucking M+ anomaly?
put ravager and go JA CLAPPA
That will already happen with Thane

His UI means he's 1 of the .1%ers I'm talking about
yeah
noxiv is an anomaly
for sure
bro plays vanilla wow
in retail
fucking insane
He literally plays so suboptimally and missing so much information and just....is perfect
hes raw dogging
hes raw dogging top percentile gameplay
Doesn't even have a rotation WA
recruit me echo 
noxiv is insanity
hooooly
hoooooly
Only we do boo D:
wtf is happening in here
(show ilvl) (but also damn son grz)
revvez beating fury logs as arms on tindral on some random ass reclear with full st build
has anyone done +13 NW ?
๐ฆ
can NY above +11 be done after u wipe 3rd boss?
timed it +2
this is NOT the ranking u think it is (also we do NOT post context around here) xdd
Depends on the expansion but yes
not really
So proud of you
thank u king
i think this is a huge understatement
if u use your spears
you'll spend a lot of time
even if u wait BL and anything
trying to kill it
if u wipe before dropping anything u should be able to go agane
can someone share their current stat %?



