fury

[mossy fox]

i agree as slayer, works fine on thane

[young swan]

i played it in a dawnbreaker with grom

fucking ASS

[lime plaza]

Grommash hellscream?

[young swan]

gromnak

[lime plaza]

Oh

[dire vigil]

Like allow Thane to be tuned in such a way that it becomes the no brainer choice for Sikran, Princess, and the AOE build is fine in ST but lets the consistent AOE damage thrive. Idk. I’m not a theory crafter, but they broke fury with Slayer for all content except for 4 raid fights

[crude ridge]

That's why I think Thane will gain more with the BT/RB buffs because AM will most likely be on the menu for thane

[dusk schooner]

Wait, are we going mountain thane on Tuesday or not?

[edgy widget]

If anything, Thane gains a little less because it spends more GCDs on TC/B

read #updates-midnight

[crude ridge]

No. It's got some love but not enough.

[dire vigil]

I’d like to see MT RA be the go to ST, MT AM be our m+ build, and let slayer do what it does best on boss 1, 2, 5, 8

[red coral]

Nothing changed + arms got nerfed

[tropic gorge]

i would love that

[red coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fatasswizardcastsdeepslumber-fatasswizard-gif-4745762569856558635

[fleet sorrel]

@sullen dove no shot you made another warrior you pred

[young swan]

soredish rises

[dire vigil]

Like people want to bitch about how fury is “easy” well make us play 3 different builds that are all viable-great in their respective content slices

[tropic gorge]

well sorry to disagree but fury IS actually easy

[crude ridge]

Nah Fury is easy lol

[dire vigil]

I’m not saying it isn’t

[tropic gorge]

not even with 3 different builds would make it hard

[dire vigil]

That was not what I just said lol

Obviously it’s pretty simple. Most classes aren’t rocket science

[sullen dove]

community sales man...

what if mythic ansurek becomes so easy with gear and buff that you can just sell mount for no effort

and im still progging kyveza

like fyrakk was at the end

[eager thorn]

every spec is easy

[tropic gorge]

spec or class?

[calm quartz]

Legit taking paladin ages to come up with numbers for Templar buffs

[eager thorn]

spec

[calm quartz]

Embarrassing honestly

[eager thorn]

do the numbers urself then if its that easy

[tropic gorge]

what numbers g what are you talking about

[calm quartz]

I never said easy, but it's sad not all classes can have people like archi in here

[eager thorn]

talking to the dude who is talking about numbers

[calm quartz]

Or azor for hunter

[eager thorn]

i wonder if anyone actually fact checks the stats

[tropic gorge]

oh mb sorry

[dire vigil]

If they wanted to complicate the spec in a cool way they could do something like make consecutive Ravager/bladestorm casts within a time limit stack a buff, rewarding proper rage spending with AM. Like if you should be able to cast Ravager/BS every 45 seconds, make it a buff that lasts 50 seconds. That would cook.

[eager thorn]

cos archi could post some bs and i would not second guess it whatsoever

[calm quartz]

Well he has a reputation to uphold so

[trail bane]

I did some AM in keys yesterday and it feels horrible to have RB and BT hit like wet noodles. But with the buffs coming to them it might be fine.

But yea cds desync a lot and there are plenty of times where you sit with 9 seconds left on avatar CD, 5 seconds left on Recklessness, 11 seconds on Odyns Fury and BS is ready and you just sit there thinking "man it would be so much nicer if these would be ready at the same time"

[calm quartz]

He wouldnt spew absolute bs lol

[modest condor]

i can say that the st difference between slayer and thane when using aoe talents matches with what i found myself

[tropic gorge]

who will secondguess him?

cuz i mean

im not gonna do the numbers

[modest condor]

me

[trail bane]

I kinda miss only having Recklessness and Ravager/Bladestorm. Throwing Avatar, Roar/Spear and Odyns fury into the mix means we have so many cds its hard to feel impactful outside of them

[modest condor]

also his numbers are preliminary

[midnight obsidian]

kelade

[summer crater]

It's funny a lot of the old theorycrafters ended up at Blizzard

[modest condor]

take the previous set of nerfs for the ptr for example, he just mentioned that AM is within 1% of RA now, but in the meantime we've already found some talents/apl changes that actually put AM ahead of RA on st (albeit only very slightly)

[tropic gorge]

show me numbers or I won't understand shit mate I play warrior im mentally limited

[edgy widget]

potentially

all still very WIP, and subject to what exactly they do on the PTR in light of these new live hotfixes

[summer crater]

With ferocity and depths of insanity?

[trail bane]

Doesnt "within < 1% of RA" include being stronger than RA?

[snow edge]

Within 1% at the time inferred less than 1% behind, not ahead

But they're saying that's potentially changed now

So, watch this space

[trail bane]

Yes, and if something is 0.5% ahead its less than 1% behind

[snow edge]

Why are you arguing semantics over something that isn't even potentially relevant anymore

[trail bane]

Because silmarilen started a semantic argument?

[snow edge]

Lord, alrighty

[trail bane]

"He said less than 1% and now we find its better"

[modest condor]

i didnt start any semantic argument, you're the one that started one

[gilded pawn]

with that profile pic i find it hard to believe hes not trolling

[trail bane]

I wish i were

I take maths very seriously

[young swan]

this isnt really about math tho, its about interpretation of linguistics

[trail bane]

Ok then nvm

[modest condor]

you cant spell homeowner without meow

[sudden tusk]

meow :3

[young swan]

its about context right, when people see "AM is within <1% of RA", and previously AM was worse than RA, its implied that AM is still behind, just by a smaller margin (in this case <1%)

[tidal kindle]

Is that why you got jigaclapped

[young swan]

yeah lmfao

did 0 boss dam

[trail bane]

Well if you want to have linguistic argument, that doesnt say anything of it being ahead or behind. So anything between -1% and +1% would apply.

[young swan]

got clapped in gb because i died immediately after pressing cds in 2 diff packs

[modest condor]

skill issue

[young swan]

its implied speech based on context

[tidal kindle]

🌃

[trail bane]

Sure, people can interpret it in different ways, but then the entire argument falls apart because people are no longer talking about the same thing.

[oak pecan]

would thane be the go-to for 10 and above keys now with AM? xd

[tidal kindle]

I need a garmsing name for dk

Idkgarm is bland af

[young swan]

potentially

[young swan]

grost

grunholy

[tidal kindle]

Okay it's gotta have garm in it

[young swan]

no ur g-spec name

[lusty plinth]

Guys, is fury a good PI target ?

[modest condor]

no

[young swan]

no lol

[olive wraith]

When we had anni we were decent target

[modest condor]

we're barely beating tanks

[tidal kindle]

Garmy

[trail bane]

Garmageddon

[queen flower]

so the slayer nerfs are unwarranted yeah?

[young swan]

id take it

gpillaroffrost

[young swan]

they're pretty dumb

but also inconsequential

so

just more shit for the shit stack

[sinful spoke]

was doing a 9 mist we wipe once on 2nd to last boss and this guy dcs now im waiting for him to come back on so i can give him a piece of mind

[summer quail]

i'm honestly baffled by the culling cyclone nerf

[young swan]

yeah i dont get it

[trail bane]

Nerfing Culling Cyclone is so dumb

[modest condor]

i dont get why people alt f4 instead of just leaving the group

[sinful spoke]

i dont get why not just finish the key

[modest condor]

at least if you leave it's instantly clear that we can drop the group

[sinful spoke]

we had 11 mins left

after boss died

wallah i hope he gets diarrhea and shits his pants

[tidal kindle]

Gxrm is dumb (x marks the spot xdd)

But you get the idea

[sinful spoke]

wait i forgot garm played lost ark lol

u making a new character in the new server?

[tidal kindle]

Garmonica is a banger

Yah

You get 500k gold

[sinful spoke]

IDK WHAT TO MAKE YET

really considering a support

for free invites

[tidal kindle]

Support, breaker, soul eater, wardancer

Can't go wrong with those

Soul eater bad rep maybe

[sinful spoke]

ohhh wd true

[ebon stag]

Guess we switch to prot now cause I don't know what they're nerfing next at this point

[mossy fox]

maybe they think they're nerfing all bladestorm damage with it

[nimble ermine]

cannot believe lost ark hasnt kicked the bucket yet

[tidal kindle]

Actually

Garmehameha

On soulfist

And origarmi

On artist

Were my best names

[summer quail]

It's the only thing i can think of "oh this buffs bladestorm by a flat 20% better nerf it"

[young swan]

i swear someone on the dev team just fucking HATES bladestorm

[tidal kindle]

From the team that brought you Warbringer target cap nerf

What did you expect

[sinful spoke]

@tidal kindle

boost me in behemoth

[tropic coral]

Anyone been running high tier delves on Fury? Just trying to decide with thane is worth it over slayer for survivablity at the least.

[sinful spoke]

and get me thaemine kill for transcendence

[tidal kindle]

We fin for the week but can lyk next

O can't do that one

[sinful spoke]

and echidna for advanced honing

wait u got guild that raids?

[ebon stag]

Gonna set my loot spec to prot now what a fucking dogshit ride into the dumpster

[static rock]

So, is RA still better in ST, or did we find a new build with AM?

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/you-baby-rage-you-are-baby-gif-18139929

[indigo arch]

More accurately they just hate seeing a brown bar on top of details

Be it arms or fury

[static rock]

Blizzard is racist

[nimble ermine]

mountain thane is disgrace it shouldn't exist i wanna smash my enemies with my weapons and my strength not popping sparks and nature damage FFS

i love people in crit's comments

[sinful spoke]

@tidal kindle

[tidal kindle]

NAE/W?

[sinful spoke]

NAE

[tidal kindle]

[vivid lagoon]

Man today every single +9 and +10 NW was horrible for me that dungeon is cursed and hate that dungeon

[sinful spoke]

@tidal kindle

i think we all quit wow and play lost ark look at how juiced i am

[humble plover]

[eager thorn]

garmsgoyle

[oblique trail]

yeah would love to play a game where multiple alts to funnel mats to your main char is basically mandatory if you want to stay relevant

very cool

👍

[sinful spoke]

Garmsbreath

[eager thorn]

garmsageddon also fits if you want the naxx wep reference

[midnight obsidian]

whirlwind

rampage

bloodthirst

[hardy shuttle]

Garmyofthedead

[eager thorn]

2 letters too long

limit is 12 chars

[hardy shuttle]

Kms

[sullen dove]

garmyofdead

[sinful spoke]

Garmpocalypse

[eager thorn]

garmpits

[tidal kindle]

Garmudgeonly

[sinful spoke]

eh

[oblique trail]

Garmblecore since Frost is gamba anyway

Lets go gambling

[quartz tulip]

Blizzard sucks at balancing its been said for years now that they have 0 idea what theyre doing... idk why theyre nerfing a fury, a class thats overall not even the best at its niche thing and it's i believe the worst melee st currently. So we're not even the best AoE class even on brood(behind Unh, Frost, Enh and theres even aff/destro/dh above the #1 parse) in mythic... this is just outrageous

mountain thane is disgrace it shouldn't exist i wanna smash my enemies with my weapons and my strength not popping sparks and nature damage FFS

[delicate yacht]

Blizzard sucks at balancing its been said for years now that they have 0 idea what theyre doing... idk why theyre nerfing a fury, a class thats overall not even the best at its niche thing and it's i believe the worst melee st currently. So we're not even the best AoE class even on brood(behind Unh, Frost, Enh and theres even aff/destro/dh above the #1 parse) in mythic... this is just outrageous

[fervent yoke]

Damn frost and unholy and ret untouched

[formal scaffold]

This progression does make me really curious what the approach to buffs/nerfs are with Blizzard. There's a clear objective with these nerfs, but the communication / compensation feels behind the changes in an odd way.

[hardy shuttle]

It makes me think they buff and nerf purely off those weekly wowhead raid ranking posts. And for some reason they do it even on heroic week

And like. Only the total damage, not to bosses

[formal scaffold]

As someone who works with some ex-Blizzard devs, I'm always skeptical of the "they're not paying any attention" take, which is why I'm curious of what's going on behind the scenes.

[sinful spoke]

Blizzard sucks at balancing its been said for years now that they have 0 idea what theyre doing... idk why theyre nerfing a fury, a class thats overall not even the best at its niche thing and it's i believe the worst melee st currently. So we're not even the best AoE class even on brood(behind Unh, Frost, Enh and theres even aff/destro/dh above the #1 parse) in mythic... this is just outrageous
NEW
[11:12 PM]
mountain thane is disgrace it shouldn't exist i wanna smash my enemies with my weapons and my strength not popping sparks and nature damage FFS

[hasty forum]

Mountain Thane: Lightning Strikes damage increased by 25%.
Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 25%.

[hasty forum]

Mountain Thane: Lightning Strikes damage increased by 25%.
Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 25%.

[hasty forum]

Mountain Thane: Lightning Strikes damage increased by 25%.
Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 25%.

[floral dove]

Recently joined 👋 sup gamers

[fervent yoke]

Good we need more doomers

[nocturne dragon]

how doomed are we?

[empty hawk]

The most dooomst

[olive wraith]

We’re okay

[quartz tulip]

'm going to be sick to my stomach. This is just pitiful for fury. Guess I have to main prot after all they just keep getting buffed again and again

[dapper goblet]

warrior still the 3rd most op melee

[quartz tulip]

i’ll say it again and again and again until someone just freaking opens their eyes that is designing this class. if warrior is not going to be a top damage class then they MUST bring more than Battle Shout and Rally to M+. Give shockwave to us by default FFS and give us some other utility that makes Berserker rage so like a small crit chance or crit damage buff or conquerors banner back ….

I've already rerolled, my warrior now feels like a wet noodle. 0 ST damage, less AoE then other classes, and I spend 1 hr trying to get into +5 keys at 2.2k io 615 ilvl. Dead class

[fervent yoke]

I’ll take banner back in a heart beat

Or even a bloodlust

fits the theme too

[kindred swallow]

Thats why i have engineering

Who says warrior cant have utility

Im out here battle rezzing

[quartz tulip]

im a tcg card shop gamer now all these nerfs have me literally playing a different fuckin game

[eager thorn]

You know you dont need engi for brez right

[fervent yoke]

Fury plays fine imo just needs some tuning like a flat buff to rampage and make execute worth pressing

[kindred swallow]

I aint paying gold for those things im a cheap ass

[eager thorn]

Me too

[fervent yoke]

If they free up some of our 2pt talents we could grab some more utility too

[kindred swallow]

Gold is for mounts only

[eager thorn]

I just use my gold on consumables

But shits like 2k a key

[fervent yoke]

Damn you get into keys 😦

[nimble ermine]

utility buzzword!

[wheat estuary]

just buffing rampage and execute solves all our problems

better sustained and ST without increase in burst

[static rock]

people like to point out that this will inadvertently cause our aoe and cleave to increase as well

[gilded pawn]

our cleave is shit anyways

which is not what fury is intended to be

[static rock]

I honestly thought our AM was really nice for us, constantly angry and able to just keep going no matter what

[eager thorn]

I’m kinda geared so ye

But i still dont get into 7s sometimes

[static rock]

rather than having an outburst for like 40 secs like a child who didn't get his way then calms down for about minute

Plus AM helped with pull variation, you never truly had no CDs in a fight, and with how the hero talents are, that could be even more apparent, just wish it was better

[nocturne dragon]

AM Thane then for future M+? 🤔

[eager thorn]

Looks likely yes

[sullen dove]

month from now future but yeah

or maybe good next week idk

[runic violet]

O

I'm hoping for AM future.

[kindred swallow]

Eh doubt it slayer would probably still be better cuz u would be spamming bladestorm aswell

[runic violet]

dumping rage for AM was fun in DF

clocking to see how much reck uptime

[young swan]

slayer deadge for m+ (high-ish keys) next week

[worthy mountain]

Thoughts re: AM thane brood prog?

[young swan]

slayer prob still better

[sullen dove]

maybe thane next week

[young swan]

im gonna try thane

[kindred swallow]

Fuck single target anyways am i right

[runic violet]

fury getting another nerf?

[young swan]

its a 2% ST loss to play thane

and 15% aoe gain

[quartz tulip]

fury warriors literally need mtn dew code reds popped into their ass to do anyform of fuckin damage

[exotic glacier]

dont threaten me with a good time

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-jjk-satoru-gojo-gojo-domain-expansion-gif-7399532150462049708

[sullen dove]

yea you better correct that 1%

bitch

[exotic glacier]

so.... the time of thunder has finally arrived.

[sullen dove]

i mean it was gonna happen eventually

couldve told you with 110% probability the bad hero talent will eventually be buffed to overtake the other one

over this xpac

pretty soon tho!

wowzers!

[modest condor]

slayer still better in raid

[sullen dove]

for now

inc s2 tierset (thunderclap does 200% more damage)

[wheat estuary]

isnt that what we want? we need better sustained ST/cleave/aoe, and less upfront burst

like thats what blizz wants at least

[sullen dove]

big fan of lying to pugs telling them "its late" and "i have to go to bed" as an excuse to leave the group when 5 people die before first intermission on kyveza 3 pulls in a row

[static rock]

Some people like to lump aoe and aoe burst as the same damn thing, when it's really not

People see big number and think aoe

[trail tendon]

during the beta, honestly i did enjoy playing mountain thane more than slayer

feels nice they're buffing it

[quasi river]

Exactly how much slower do people mean when you say Thane does slower AoE? Because Slayer has maybe the fastest burst AoE in the game, so slower than Slayer doesn't really mean anything. Does a pack have to live for 20s to do good damage as Thane or is it more like a minute?

[olive wraith]

Thane looks way cooler imo

[olive wraith]

Thane just has less burst

[trail tendon]

truth

what i like about thane is that its not all about burst

because that's ultimately fury's downfall

as harder content comes out, the burst that fury has becomes less important

because sustained damage matters more

[sullen dove]

a ton of slayers value is in that initial bladestorm and sure you get em more frequently but like all the overwhelmed stacks and whatever buffs and just a fat strong bladestorm is where its kinda centralized

where MT is you get 2 lightning blasts when you avatar sure, but the rest of it's damage is basically just rng lightning bolts and procs

to thunderblast more

[trail tendon]

slayer would super benefit from anger management

[olive wraith]

Yea and no

[sullen dove]

reap the storm is also pretty reliable on aoe, not sure if whirlwinding bts increases TB's chance to proc or anything the same way

[trail tendon]

keep in mind reap the storm and slayer strikes are also rng

[quasi river]

I guess what I'm asking is will Thane get that "key too low" problem that some specs get or is it just not murdering everything in a 4 before your boomie finishes applying dots anymore

[sullen dove]

like thane damage outside of cooldowns i think is higher because you can just get 1 or 2thunderblast proc and its already large, but it probably doesnt beat having a bladestorm

[olive wraith]

With AM slayer will have really awkward cd timings

[trail tendon]

ive done keys where my slayer strikes and reap the storms were hardly proccing and it sucked because every 3rd slayer strike you get sudden death and it'll reduce bladestorm's cooldown

[sullen dove]

and also just buffing your general rotation abilities

like buffs ramp/bt and whatever by like 20%

[trail tendon]

but if its just not happening then its kinda ggs

[sullen dove]

for just existingi think

[trail tendon]

i wouldn't think so

[olive wraith]

You’ll have 45 second rek. 30 second bs

[trail tendon]

culling cyclone will benefit so much with AM since you're using BS more

[sullen dove]

worth noting culling is strictly a single target talent

now more than ever

like you could sorta use it on aoe the split wasnt that bad on a few targets

but i think its just dogass m+ period now

[olive wraith]

You will have higher overwhelm uptime

[sullen dove]

only for st raid would you use it

[trail tendon]

thats just how it is though, that's not a hero talent thing, thats just simply cooldowns not lining up identically

[quasi river]

I can't see AM making Slayer's CDs any more awkward. Your non-BS CDs still line up and BS comes up at random times which is no different to RA, right?

[olive wraith]

I didn’t say it was a hero talent thing

[trail tendon]

oh my bad

[sullen dove]

yea with AM you prolly can just fit 1 more bladestorm in between every avatar

[restive fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kinkytwt-stan-twitter-stantwt-dog-greedy-gif-8347969902085611737

I feel sorry for Arms, as Fury is getting some changes.

[olive wraith]

I feel like Bs won’t ever really align with Of

[sullen dove]

well they're buffing arms' bad hero talent too (which wasnt even as bad as thane was for us)

[exotic glacier]

Arms is doing JUST fine.

[sullen dove]

so i think its at a point "you can play either hero talent on either spec in some content and not be completely trolling"

colossus was already ok in m+ before this

might be better now

just channeling

[static rock]

Arms really is getting the shaft since they got strays from us, and the possibility of a simple change seems high rn for fury

[olive wraith]

Good

Arms was too good s4 DF

[restive fiber]

the burst was too good

especially in algathar

[static rock]

I also love the fact that fury and arms have an unrealistic hatred towards each other, accidentally asked a fury question at the beginning of the expansion and got blasted in chat

[trail tendon]

i enjoy playing arms

its a fun spec

but fury will always be my favourite spec

the zug cannot be topped

[eager thorn]

fury > arms cos 2 weps > 1

[trail tendon]

trueeee

[olive wraith]

It just feels bad when one is massively ahead of the other

[trail tendon]

yeah fax

[young swan]

nah it turbo fucks cd sync

most of the CDR is wasted

there are some cases where you dont even care, you basically just use it for reck cd (ovinax)

but thats extremely niche

[trail tendon]

gotcha gotcha

[dry hawk]

Would Queen farm back for silken tomb?

[young swan]

AM on queen? doubtful

[clear wharf]

you can am on brood outside of that it desyncs all of your damage buttons

[rotund steppe]

man im worried, im not having fun in wow anymore

[clear wharf]

play another class

[floral dove]

farm old content/hard achieves!

[rotund steppe]

im doing it, im playing shaman now

[floral dove]

Ele?

[rotund steppe]

enh

[floral dove]

pog

[rotund steppe]

and its fun

but i feel the game its been the same shit for almost 10 years already

[young swan]

take a break then

[floral dove]

play a diff game

that works for me

[low folio]

It’s unlikely for any game to remain fresh and new feeling for decades at a time. It’s better to take breaks and play other games. May even find out you prefer a different game long term

[formal scaffold]

This is why I play for about half an expansion every 2-3 expansions.

[floral dove]

^

[violet moss]

I usually play and do everything on the list like this not to get bored, then i start focusing other games until next season drops

Current season to-do list

get mounts ✅
play only normal and or heroic raid with guild one to two days a week depending on mood ✅
get title achievments ✅

After you complete all this go play other games, like playstation single player games or other online games or steam pc games...

Or better yet go outside and socialize.. not that i really do that

[formal scaffold]

I get to see big changes, do some raiding, and then play other things. 😄

[rotund steppe]

welp

time to do that kenshi playthrough i was planning

[violet moss]

kenshi?

started metro and wo long... will be fun to start them up again when i am done with Season 1

[versed frost]

fury MT buffs what? I just woke up, feels like christmas

[queen flower]

how much overall damage will the 20% extra blood thirst damage from the Tier set apply? We do not use BT much as is

[wispy dock]

on Tuesday will we go AM/thane? or AM/slayer? or none of the above

[worldly thunder]

guys any tips on improving single target damage with fury ? for bosses without ads is spear + odyns still the move?

[floral dove]

I have the metro collection

its fucking FUN

i also play older games like Fear and ect

Anybody tried Last epoch?

[queen flower]

for slayer single target the guide build worked out well for me, blade storm and reckless abandon, no odyns or onslaught

[floral dove]

^^

[somber elk]

I think no am until anniversary

[wispy dock]

oh i thought with the early change tuesday

no worries

[queen flower]

AM will be strange on slayer, as the cd reduction on BS is heavily proc dependant

so some times you will get 2 BS between the speed reck, sometimes not

[wispy dock]

am thane makes more sense

[worldly thunder]

so just spear and rampage rotation with execute

[queen flower]

using your execute alot more to get bladestorm cooldown from marked for execution has improved my output by smoothing out the timings

[worldly thunder]

but this is only for boss fights with zero adds basically right

[queen flower]

using every crushing blow proc between rampages too

yes

I used the guide build with WW talents instead of vicious contempt on the council fight before queen, as the consistent cleave was nice to have

[worldly thunder]

yea court fight can be done with multitarget build because of ads and cleave we can sustain good deeps there

man fury is so fun i wish i found it sooner before wasting 1 month on dk lol

[queen flower]

yeah, reading the adjustments the intent seems to be desperately trying to nerf bladestorm as its to strong of a CD for fury, while attempting to shore up a separate weak ability that has low usage, bloodthirst, without realizing that it has very minimal synergy, and thus priority, in the rotation. Even with a guaranteed crit from bloodcraze it still only barely breaks even with a basic enrage buffed raging blow.

[late raft]

Quick fury question for you fine folks: if I get a 20 item level 1 hander, should I use that over a 2 hander and just spec out of Titan's Grip until I get a 2 hander?

I'm using a 580 two hander and a 560 two hander, and I just got a 597 1-hander

[floral dove]

no

unless your spec'd in to SMF

[worldly thunder]

we don't need anymore nerfs, i dont think bloodthirst is ever used anyway , should be used on proc as BB

[floral dove]

Bloodbath stronk

:pew:

[floral dove]

Do you need weps/dg run through for your warrior? im down to help if you want

[queen flower]

I have to look at how much BB is doing compared to CB or rampage on my own numbers

[late raft]

It's actually not for me, it's for my good RL friend who doesn't know anything about Fury

But I appreciate the kind offer!

[floral dove]

let me post my BB dmg

gimme a min

this was in a M+

[floral dove]

Ah np

2h are bis for fury

just make sure the wep is haste/mast or mast/haste stat on it

cause fury is prio mast/haste atm

[queen flower]

raw damage boost wins out, as you get a ton of free haste from your talent tree as is

[floral dove]

^

[storm meadow]

You don't need weapons to be these stats in particular. Maybe if you craft of course.

[floral dove]

i do craft but i cant get the rank i need for it so im just using haste/mast weps Grim Batrol/Raid

[queen flower]

looking at the base damage values of CB vs BB, while enraged cb for me was doing 540k and BB was doing 320k on the tooltip. what I am looking at is the difference of 220k damage between the two casts, as going rampage > CB > rampage > CB > execute > rampage > CB > BB is what usually happens for me

[storm meadow]

Raid? There is nothing with both stats here

[queen flower]

the execute is for rage and BS cd, I could be doing it wrong though hence the whole post

[floral dove]

there is an alternative wep for massive haste

the 2h mace from 1st boss

ideally the 2h mace will be replaced with a crafted in the interim future once i get my bs knowledge up to max rank it

[storm meadow]

Oh right. Yeah makes sense.

I'm really eager to test thane next week

[floral dove]

Thane is fun af

[storm meadow]

Thane/AM feels just like good old DF

[floral dove]

If you have Seal of Poisoned Pact you'd do alot more dps as thane cause its nature dmg

extra nature dmg = dps

assuming my theory is correct

i could be wrong lol

[storm meadow]

Depends on the procs

[floral dove]

^

basically rng at this point

[storm meadow]

I mean diurna's ring during S4 was around 0.4% iirc for me? Doesn't matter if I get shit stat on it

Or was it the eranog one?

[queen flower]

it also feels like whoever is making adjustments to fury is in favor of the DF tier 4 set that made BT/BB a huge burst proc after rampaging 8 times, attempting to work it into the baseline rotation and failing miserably at it

[ivory ingot]

Thane fury for m+ with these buffs

[storm meadow]

I love it

[floral dove]

Thane is fun af

[ivory ingot]

[storm meadow]

Thane / AM rocks, it's hyper dynamic and you have even the option to work with RA and Ravager. So cool

[ivory ingot]

I think it's good to not have huge upfront damage with thane better for not ripping off tank

Bit more tanky with thane

[storm meadow]

I hope we also see something happening in ST

[pearl sequoia]

o shit did they change rasha'nan logs

random 99 appeard

[queen flower]

hmmm, backseat game dev but they could buff either cold steel hot blood or odyns fury dancing blades to affect BT/BB in some way to make it more of a raging blow build or BT/BB build

[storm meadow]

Old news man. It's been changed yes

[pearl sequoia]

so they re-added adds

[vague copper]

riped aggro from tank last night 3 times in a grim 10... meanwhile a DK was like 3 mil over me in dps and nothing ><

[storm meadow]

Ah. This is new then

[pearl sequoia]

This is weird im looking at it now and its only showing damage to boss still

[storm meadow]

Anyways lads gtg to sleep here it's almost 8 am

[errant vessel]

Did you have a 98 before or something?

[pearl sequoia]

Nah it was like a 81 from first kill

[errant vessel]

Weird

[pearl sequoia]

idk maybe the log was just wrong for some reason and it got fixed

ill take it

[errant vessel]

Same for me actually

Suddenly got a 99 and 98 extra

[worthy mountain]

yo when Archi refers to thanes burst damage being dealt more slowly than slayers what is that referring to exactly? Overwhelm?

[queen flower]

I think it refers to the total damage dealt within a burst cd window. So slayer does all its burst in one short window, where thane is more high sustain over time.

could be wrong, but that sounds like what he means

[worthy mountain]

copy that makes sense

[errant vessel]

anyone know what % increase the mountain thane buffs are on ST?

[signal gyro]

wait, when do these hotfixes get applied for thane?

[stiff barn]

#updates-midnight

[young swan]

weekly reset

[errant vessel]

ye ty, donno why I didn't go there immediately

[outer rover]

What is „ground targeting“?

[young swan]

in what context

generally its referring to an ability or item that uses a ground targeted reticle, like spear or leap

[outer rover]

archimtiros wrote „Thane will probably make a strong showing in Mythict, though Slayer still has much faster burst, an easier rotation, and isn't subject to ground targeting“

[odd star]

"archimotros"

[outer rover]

does he mean ravager?

[odd star]

nice

[outer rover]

Sorry:/

[manic pelican]

I mean ravager be macrod to drop at feet

If that’s a point of discontent

[young swan]

yeah

[outer rover]

Okay thx

[fading sky]

Tbh just make thane bis

St

Thats the profile they seem to want for fury

[vague copper]

Hmm

My avatarmacro have stoped work over night

Why is that?

[fading sky]

High sustain with slight burst

[vague copper]

Its no big fency thing just trinket and ava

But its grey in QB now

Used it like forever

Relogg did sort it 🙂

[errant vessel]

why not thane for m+ and slayer for raid as it seems like they're doing

[fading sky]

Slayer matches with ra and of + bladestorm? Blizzard punished slayer for being to bursty

Now am + thane seems like a better profile according to blizzy

[sullen dove]

I have this issue happen to me if I have a macro set to either fury or prot for example and queue into lfg that force swaps your spec to something else

[vague copper]

Meanwhile I se UHDK pull of 14 mil first pull NW

[sullen dove]

Like if I’m fury and queue as tank my avatar macro on tank is greyed out

so I’ve just been swapping before I join

[vague copper]

Ty that was what I did

Allso when you come out 2x2h and Shield on you back 😄

[sullen dove]

yea that good bonus

[steel void]

Arma or fury best

Arms

[tribal flint]

are we saved?

[manic pelican]

Improved

[tribal flint]

oh my god mountain thane fort week SOUNDS FIRE AS FUCK!

[queen flower]

arms is better for single target, fury is better for small cleave and multitarget

[prime charm]

So do we go Thane in m+ now?

[tribal flint]

wait a second

is prot straight up just getting buffed?

dude with these changes

prot could literally be a DPS

[queen flower]

tanks doing good dps this expac

thane has better sustain aoe, slayer has better burst aoe. so depends on the dungeon and your group comp

[clever path]

I just wanna see some more single target compensation across the board. Most of what they’ve done is nerf us and buff talents that aren’t being used as much. Which is fine. But still

[swift citrus]

When are these changes going live?

All in all, Arms will still be better pure ST?

[ivory ingot]

Reset

[clever path]

Yeah arms will still be way better at single target

[swift citrus]

Good for me

[clever path]

I know I’m trying to cobble together an arms set for the pure single target fights in the raid.

[paper blaze]

for a M+ only player, is the annoyance of the transmitter trinket worth the small dps gain over mark? does anyone have both and "feel" like one is stronger in practice? my sims say to take transmitter, but i feel like i see more warriors running mark/shard in keys

[worldly thunder]

any ideas on these class updates ? doens't seem like anything good or bad for fury ?

[snow edge]

Check out the updates channel

[worldly thunder]

except mountain thane is buffed

[snow edge]

#updates-midnight message

[bitter palm]

CLAPPA

[south kayak]

[heavy galleon]

Seems not really good for fury

I guess I'll just leave untill S2, we are doomed this season

why taking warrior when you can go with FDK, Ret pal, or even rogue outlaw/assa now

[covert blaze]

where weakaura

[south kayak]

What weakaura

[tribal flint]

its kinda of like a neutral change while making mountain thane viable in fort weeks, i feel

[south kayak]

Not just fort keys

[proud vessel]

Is transmitter the best trinket for M+?

[lavish mauve]

Mountain thane is so nice to play

You are more tanky

And dont blast to do tankdamage the next 45 seconds

But slayer anger management would be cool too

[south kayak]

According to someone’s sims, the single target for slayer in aoe build is almost identical to the st of thane in aoe build with the buffs. So it’s not just in fortified week

And thane just does quite a bit more aoe

So it’s probably thane in m+ in general while slayer is for raid mostly

And that’s as good as it can get

[somber elk]

can you tell me why tankier? because the 2% more physical def? and why more consistent, is it because of the thunderclap proc?

[south kayak]

It’s 8%

No?

There’s a passive that makes you get some DR after using TB for a few seconds

[lavish mauve]

2 percent base

[south kayak]

What’s that passive do? I forgot

[lavish mauve]

And 8 percent on every thunderclap proc

[south kayak]

Yeah that’s nuts

And fury is already tanky

[lavish mauve]

Yes

And you can also get 5% stamina

Wich is a lot

[south kayak]

Sheesh

[heavy galleon]

but we are still shit near frost DK :x

[lavish mauve]

So its so nice

[unreal magnet]

@mossy fox Nice to meet you, Critcake. How do you rate the mountain king fury warrior? I'm thinking about using the wedge as the mountain king's characteristic and the raid as the academic characteristic.

[south kayak]

So are most classes tho? Lol

[tribal flint]

appreciate the info

[lavish mauve]

At least we can respec to prot if we need a specific item or something

XD

[south kayak]

You can’t compare yourself to one of the best aoe in the game

If not the best

[heavy galleon]

Even Outlaw take a huge buff

[tribal flint]

question for you box

do these changes straight up buff prot?

[somber elk]

he made a video to this

[south kayak]

Let me see them again

[unreal magnet]

thx, bro🙏

[tribal flint]

because to me it looks like its a straight up huge dmg buff to prot

[south kayak]

Yeah

[tribal flint]

nutty

[south kayak]

The lightning strikes are a buff

I wanna play thane prot but I have shit weapons for prot

580 explorer 1h

I guess I need to spam mists

[dim meadow]

I honestly would love if Mountain Thane was better for fury

[south kayak]

It should be in m+ next week

[lavish mauve]

Just spam mists or stonevault

In tank spec

Loot spec*

[south kayak]

Mists it is, Stonevault is harder and has more loot in the table

[lavish mauve]

Thats true

But it drops a tanktrinket haha

[south kayak]

Is it any good though

[lavish mauve]

Probably not

[south kayak]

You can afford to not use any tank trinkets

It doesn’t matter

[lavish mauve]

You dont need them anyways

[south kayak]

Just use your dps ones lol

[lavish mauve]

The silken court one seems nice

[south kayak]

Yeah I heard it’s good but I ain’t getting that any time soon

[rotund ginkgo]

THANE M+ INCOMING?

[smoky vale]

yeah

in prot

[junior gale]

Slapin and Clappin

[smoky vale]

[rotund ginkgo]

Huh wym

Archi wrote fury thane is 12% ahead in aoe and 2% behind in st compared to multi target slayer

I'd much rather have 12% more aoe and only lose 2% st

[lavish mauve]

Truee

[rotund ginkgo]

Oct 8 thane fury

[lavish mauve]

And a tier set thats more than 0.5%

Gotta love it

[eternal sundial]

Ja clappa

🌩️

[south kayak]

[acoustic yoke]

Isnt that a choice node with the 8%

[junior gale]

Kinda wanna do some broodtwister prog as Thane

[spice plover]

The upcoming changes to mountain will push it ahead of slayer? or atleast make it compareble ?

[south kayak]

It might be

[acoustic yoke]

Makes it the go yo in m+

12% more aoe for 2% St loss

[rotund ginkgo]

Yessir

[spice plover]

NO I am talking ST

ah ok

[rotund ginkgo]

For full st slayer still plays

[acoustic yoke]

^

[lavish mauve]

@acoustic yoke yes

But its both good

[south kayak]

12% aoe is fucking nuts lmao for just a 2% st loss

[rotund ginkgo]

Doesn't 12% ahead in aoe put us in a rly good spot lmao

[spice plover]

but for pure ST the diff. between Slayer and thane after the changes is only 2 %? I would rather play thane then

[south kayak]

It definitely should

[rotund ginkgo]

No, it's only on multi target builds

[south kayak]

Can outdps ret

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah but tbf for lower keys I can see slayer still being fine

[naive trellis]

Sustained aoe, it's less bursty aoe which is a big deal - so wouldn't count in it clearly outperforming slayer for m+, more like a competitive option

[rotund ginkgo]

On pure st with pure st builds, slayer is 7% ahead

[eternal sundial]

What the fuck is a full st

Pad raid or arms

[lavish mauve]

Overall dps will go nuts

[eternal sundial]

🌩️

[lavish mauve]

With thane

[rotund ginkgo]

Literally no one cares about surys 3 second burst lol

[spice plover]

ah damn !

[rotund ginkgo]

Fury's

[heavy galleon]

you think thane with AM can be good ?

[south kayak]

Yeah but you’ll do the full burst on trash in m+ if it’s high enough

[acoustic yoke]

Any higher key it's basically guaranteed

[lavish mauve]

The overall andys are backkk

[rotund ginkgo]

In 11s fury burst isn't strong

[south kayak]

And the burst is stronger on thane, albeit slower

[south kayak]

Exactly

[lavish mauve]

Fury burst suck

[acoustic yoke]

Also I'm going to miss the charge root removal though

[lavish mauve]

On slayer

[spice plover]

Mountain thane def. has wayyyyy better visuals

[acoustic yoke]

Ye

[lavish mauve]

It just makes you die

[spice plover]

slayer has almost no new animation

[dim meadow]

Thane also beffier

[acoustic yoke]

Saved me more times on both cities dung

[south kayak]

Are those sims with OF? Because fishy said this in his sims but he was using 2x VC instead of OF @rotund ginkgo

Also I wonder if AM is close enough to warrant taking for thane

[south kayak]

It has Slayers strikes only yeah

[naive trellis]

Upfront dmg is still better than sustained, even if the impact varies. Can see thane being better for high keys, esp. due to survival increase as well, but don't think it's as clearcut as you make it out to be

But yes Thane is cooler

[acoustic yoke]

I wonder why they didn't push out the raw CB/BT buffs as well

[south kayak]

I think it absolutely is but we’ll see anyway

[south kayak]

They didn’t push a lot of things from that PTR that could be easily pushed, could be it’s not properly tested or a variety of other issues

[acoustic yoke]

One could pray more changes

Buffs to be exact

Cause aoe dmg still going to be taking a hit when .5 comes

[south kayak]

Also wonder if Frenzied with AM thane would be the nice

[acoustic yoke]

I have 28% haste natty so I kinda hope not

[rotund ginkgo]

Idk but I guess we're gonna find out

[south kayak]

AM values haste a lot

I think

[wanton cliff]

Pretty hyped to thane next week in keys ngl

[rotund ginkgo]

It truly depends on how long thane needs to ramp. In 10+s thane most defo will win

Packs last 30+s minimum

Maybe on a bl pack they last 15s

[south kayak]

30 seconds thane with Reck/Ravager

new ret

[acoustic yoke]

You may lose out on pad adds like the lil dudes in wake

[south kayak]

fuck those

they don't matter

[acoustic yoke]

But generally better overall

[wanton cliff]

Huge on 3rd boss room adds tho

[acoustic yoke]

True

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm calling a nerf to thane a week after patch releases

[south kayak]

Lightning Strikes should have been buffed by 50% while ground current 25%

[south kayak]

it's not good in raid so no

just like fdk ain't getting nerfed yet

[rotund ginkgo]

So?

[wanton cliff]

3 target storm bolts

[rotund ginkgo]

Were brown

[south kayak]

I mean even with those buffs there's some specs still putting more aoe

[acoustic yoke]

Lightning strikes should proc off of more things tbh

[south kayak]

I agree tbh

[eternal sundial]

Who give a shit it's a funny change

Clappa good

Hero talent diversity is good

[south kayak]

yeah I agree of course

I like that slayer is for raid while thane is for m+

very good build diversity

[wanton cliff]

Agreed

[south kayak]

They're still buffing the unused hero talents which is good to see

has to be that most hero talents are now very close with each other

[wanton cliff]

Not just locked 1 spec , have some change , learn different rotations

Love that

[velvet obsidian]

Finally got a piece of loot to drop in a dungeon after like 10+ runs today. It was a shield because I forgot to swap to arms loot spec.

[south kayak]

I saw mage got frostfire buffs, I wonder if that's enough to play that

I like frostfire

[rotund ginkgo]

Guys we gotta sandbag thane for a week or two

[wanton cliff]

Ngl started lvling a fire mage for funzies

[south kayak]

lmao guess not

Checking Frost

[wanton cliff]

Shit fun as hell

[acoustic yoke]

So it was nearly 20% before lol

[south kayak]

Yeah same as Slayer vs thane

lol

[velvet obsidian]

This is the way. Pull a boomkin and sandbag until we get gigabuffs to shoot us to the moon

[south kayak]

back then when we didn't get any thane buffs

Interesting, so frost is playable for frostfire considering it's hard to pull off spellsinger properly even tho it's that ahead

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm sorry box

DO WE CAST SPELLS HERE?

[south kayak]

We do cast some spells

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/ders-books-dang-workaholics-gif-5385479

[south kayak]

Thunder Blast isn't natty

[rotund ginkgo]

Warriors in dalaran

[south kayak]

We cast Lightning Strikes

[rotund ginkgo]

Roids are just more test, ur body naturally produces test

So therefore ur extra natty

Thunder blast is extra natty

[golden hare]

true and realhop on gear

NOW

[south kayak]

yo erga

sup

[rotund ginkgo]

Hi cutie :3

[eternal sundial]

Sodax maxxing

[south kayak]

what's gear

[rotund ginkgo]

Gonna parse 101 now

[eternal sundial]

Low T question

[south kayak]

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/use-your-brain-joe-bartolozzi-funny-memes-meme-stupid-gif-16825119743901351939

[golden hare]

hey babes

[south kayak]

my bnet username is gear, surely that means something

[eternal sundial]

Alo erga

[rotund ginkgo]

Sorry for my outburst it's my raging hormones from the fear

[plucky ice]

blizz devs need more T, these are low T buffs

[rotund ginkgo]

Gear

[eternal sundial]

[eternal sundial]

Zerk the fear

[south kayak]

that's why you're named ragish

[eternal sundial]

Noob

[rotund ginkgo]

It means sensitive guy :3

[south kayak]

you're a streamer but you're not purple

fake news

[rotund ginkgo]

Wym not purple

I'm not live rn

[rotund ginkgo]

Yes I'm not live

[south kayak]

do you only become purple when you're live?

[rotund ginkgo]

Think so

[south kayak]

damn that's nice

[golden hare]

box

[south kayak]

erga

[golden hare]

it says

LIVE

right there

[south kayak]

LIVE!

[rotund ginkgo]

Silly

[eternal sundial]

🔴 LIVE - 1

[south kayak]

smh my head box

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/use-your-brain-joe-bartolozzi-funny-memes-meme-stupid-gif-16825119743901351939

[south kayak]

box moment

[rotund ginkgo]

Erga rn

Erga having roid rage

[velvet obsidian]

Why would I use my brain? I have muscles to do what my brain can't anyways

[rotund ginkgo]

zoowee

[south kayak]

this guy has a bit of a large head

brain

[golden hare]

i'm not toxic i'm very civil and cool and stuff

[south kayak]

erga is very civil

[rotund ginkgo]

Thought of the day

[eternal sundial]

I agree

[south kayak]

can agree

[rotund ginkgo]

Agree erga is really stuff

[eternal sundial]

Erga the lamp post - my GM said so

[south kayak]

he's cool

[golden hare]

👴

[rotund ginkgo]

And civil and stuff

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-15302685

[winged remnant]

I’ve been reading the chat and guides, any way I put it, fury slayer is just doomed in raids?

[rotund ginkgo]

Erga coming in the discord

[eternal sundial]

I think it's cooler lore than the spatula guy being in the guild at some point

[eternal sundial]

Not doomed

[rotund ginkgo]

What guild

[golden hare]

who??

[eternal sundial]

Still freaks it on adds

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[eternal sundial]

The one im in right meow

[rotund ginkgo]

The spatula guy

[golden hare]

thanks

[eternal sundial]

The angry spongebob

[rotund ginkgo]

Angry spoon

[south kayak]

me when thane is better in m+

[rotund ginkgo]

As it should be imo

I fucking hate having 3 stacks on a mob that gets blown up/not getting SD up in time

[golden hare]

my vrain isn't wrinkly and old enough to recognise who you're talking abour

[south kayak]

oh god that's the worst

also buff execute

[velvet obsidian]

Quiet down, you want the devs to hear this? If they know we're starting to do decent numbers again they'll send us back to the bog

[south kayak]

why haven't they done that by now

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

[south kayak]

i wanna use execute when it procs immediately

#1 prio

SD

gogo

buff

[rotund ginkgo]

Real

[velvet obsidian]

REAL

[rotund ginkgo]

I do that tbf FUCK waiting

[velvet bluff]

execujte dmg is silly

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm gonna overlap a proc if I don't

[south kayak]

-10% dps gg

[eternal sundial]

Arms sd conditions ez headache

[rotund ginkgo]

Schrodingers SD

[south kayak]

execute needs at least 30% buff for fury

AT LEAST

[rotund ginkgo]

If you send it on 1 you won't get more procs, if you hold until 3 it'll reset 4 times in 2 gcds

[winged remnant]

Do I pump off rip, or do I use avatar + reck, then save Aoe for adds?

[rotund ginkgo]

On what fight lmao

[eternal sundial]

Depends on boss

[south kayak]

some times you get insane amount of slayers strikes while on the other hand you barely get any, it's silly

[velvet obsidian]

In AoE Idgaf, I send the SD procs unless I have the attention to spare to check. More important to me to buff that bladestorm to max for the next big send than to min max execute damage on a single mob

[winged remnant]

Council is what I’m thinking of

[rotund ginkgo]

Bro thinking 7/8m

Didn't know we got liquid here

[eternal sundial]

Council dont matter cuz on CD imo

And into damage amp

[south kayak]

I remember getting 3 stacks of Marked and then immediately i got 3 stacks again in a few seconds upon consuming those

that was fun

[eternal sundial]

Can hold first roar and bs for adds

[rotund ginkgo]

And then it doesn't happen for 45s

[south kayak]

gg

[rotund ginkgo]

I had multiple ansurek pulls with literally not even 3 marked procs in over a minute

[velvet bluff]

reckless into charge into rampage then avatar bs is my usual opener

[winged remnant]

Is there a fury warrior raid rotation guide or do I just have to learn the hard way

[velvet obsidian]

Also, can we take away the travel time off of execute please? I hate that I hit the button, and the slow ass animation starts, and then the mob dies before it connects. Makes me enrage Out of Game

[eternal sundial]

If doesnt do it like that no mo

It's not condemn now

[velvet obsidian]

Same animation

[eternal sundial]

Or less bad rather

[south kayak]

oof, are you in mythic?

[eternal sundial]

Bror

[rotund ginkgo]

Nope

Bruv

[south kayak]

yeah true

bruh moment

[velvet obsidian]

LFR

[rotund ginkgo]

Box ur legit brain rotted rn

[eternal sundial]

Me when ragish top 10 raider

[south kayak]

I am excited for thane

[rotund ginkgo]

Isn't it like top 4 lmao

[south kayak]

sorry not sorry

[plucky ice]

bruh moment when webs coming but bs still 10s cd

[rotund ginkgo]

Real

[south kayak]

it's a compliment to ragish that i thought he was in mythic queen

come on guys

[velvet bluff]

praying for a random execute proc

[rotund ginkgo]

My cheeks clench

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/domain-expansion-don't-care-domain-expansion-don't-care-dc-domain-dc-gif-11428121777671025484

[south kayak]

say thank you for getting compliments that you're giga

[willow cradle]

Yikes, I've been late onsome Silken tombs because of this before but never that bad

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-malevolent-shrine-copium-gif-17048246567311451549

[flat river]

i donnt get

why

they keep

[south kayak]

hey chef

[eternal sundial]

Never type again

[south kayak]

stop

[eternal sundial]

I dont wanna hear it

[flat river]

nerfing fury

[quartz tulip]

As someone always playing with pugs, its the end. Its already hard to find groups or find people joining my group as an Fury. But with that continues nerfs, there is no other option then rerolling. Thanks Blizzarzd, where almost on Beast Master Level.

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm literally braindead

But ty

[velvet obsidian]

This one is actually a buff

The latest one

[eternal sundial]

As someone always playing with pugs, its the end. Its already hard to find groups or find people joining my group as an Fury. But with that continues nerfs, there is no other option then rerolling. Thanks Blizzarzd, where almost on Beast Master Level.

[rotund ginkgo]

Why they keep

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/put-these-foolish-ambitions-to-rest-gif-216757235936934843

[south kayak]

you wouldn't be typing this if you were

As someone always playing with pugs, its the end. Its already hard to find groups or find people joining my group as an Fury. But with that continues nerfs, there is no other option then rerolling. Thanks Blizzarzd, where almost on Beast Master Level.

[rotund ginkgo]

As someone always playing with pugs, its the end. Its already hard to find groups or find people joining my group as an Fury. But with that continues nerfs, there is no other option then rerolling. Thanks Blizzarzd, where almost on Beast Master Level.

[sterile shell]

As someone always playing with pugs, its the end. Its already hard to find groups or find people joining my group as an Fury. But with that continues nerfs, there is no other option then rerolling. Thanks Blizzarzd, where almost on Beast Master Level.

[willow cradle]

They keep nerfing Arms trying to nerf Fury

[velvet bluff]

yeah already swapped to dk 😭

[willow cradle]

Kekw

[quartz tulip]

Slayer was fun but honestly its a nothing burger passive stack. The thing that it changes about fury is that you need more weak auras if you want to track all those buffs, not that you need to.
But now they nerf the impact of those buffs even more... You dont play "Slayer", its straight up Fury Warrior. Such Hero! Much wow!
What is Slayer even supposed to represent? "Uh you do more damage and ... More bladestorm!"

[rotund ginkgo]

As someone always playing with pugs, its the end. Its already hard to find groups or find people joining my group as an Fury. But with that continues nerfs, there is no other option then rerolling. Thanks Blizzarzd, where almost on Beast Master Level.

[south kayak]

why do you assume those aren't intended for arms

[velvet bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-smile-gif-14040974

[velvet obsidian]

Beast master is GOATed in ST though?

And getting changes for AoE I think

[rotund ginkgo]

Slayer was fun but honestly its a nothing burger passive stack. The thing that it changes about fury is that you need more weak auras if you want to track all those buffs, not that you need to.
But now they nerf the impact of those buffs even more... You dont play "Slayer", its straight up Fury Warrior. Such Hero! Much wow!
What is Slayer even supposed to represent? "Uh you do more damage and ... More bladestorm!"

[south kayak]

Slayer was fun but honestly its a nothing burger passive stack. The thing that it changes about fury is that you need more weak auras if you want to track all those buffs, not that you need to.
But now they nerf the impact of those buffs even more... You dont play "Slayer", its straight up Fury Warrior. Such Hero! Much wow!
What is Slayer even supposed to represent? "Uh you do more damage and ... More bladestorm!"

[flat river]

litterrally prot is stronger than arms rn

kek

[sterile shell]

Slayer was fun but honestly its a nothing burger passive stack. The thing that it changes about fury is that you need more weak auras if you want to track all those buffs, not that you need to.

[south kayak]

no it's not

at least not in dps

[south kayak]

Thanks Blizzarzd

[willow cradle]

Because Blizz

[south kayak]

ok im gonna spam some mists for 1h+ shield for prot thane

wish luck

[willow cradle]

Good luck homie

[quartz tulip]

i put a lot of work into my warrior so far this expansion.. it's my favourite class to play.. but if it keeps goin on like this, i'll have to change from brown to pink, cause in every shape and form ret paladin is just way better, their aoe is consistent and outputs a lot of damage, their single target is just as disgusting, and they actually have useful utility as a dps, off heals, immunities, A BATTLE RES, a cleanse.. like warrior is designed to DO damage, yet it seems like they don't want them to actually DO BFD.

these nerfs to warrior are unwarranted and a knee jerk reaction to fury having strong BURST aoe damage, out side of dropping every cooldown on a mobs forehead fury aoe is mediocre at best, they're making it very hard to enjoy the game with constant back to back nerfs.

[south kayak]

he is shitting out copypastas

glorious

[flat river]

first week we were s tier

[velvet obsidian]

S tier in heroic dungeons

[south kayak]

lmao

[flat river]

look what they did to my boy

[willow cradle]

I can't tell if it's actually malding or someone trying to be funny

[south kayak]

Yeah me too lmao

[flat river]

(raid)

[sterile shell]

i put a lot of work into my warrior so far this expansion.. it's my favourite class to play.. but if it keeps goin on like this, i'll have to change from brown to pink, cause in every shape and form ret paladin is just way better, their aoe is consistent and outputs a lot of damage, their single target is just as disgusting, and they actually have useful utility as a dps, off heals, immunities, A BATTLE RES, a cleanse.. like warrior is designed to DO damage, yet it seems like they don't want them to actually DO BFD.

[velvet obsidian]

30k DPS above AUG

[south kayak]

Still waiting for fdk, enha, arcane and fire nerfs

Deswindstream

[sterile shell]

leveling fdk rn

get with it or get behind

[flat river]

yeah

like

[quartz tulip]

idk since the new expansion start blizzard apply nerfs to warriors in every patch, im playing warrior like 12 years ago and consider to change class makes me a little bit sad and thinking that im not able to play the class that i like because is not a "meta class/spec" or even playable. Now try to get an invite in +9 keystone is literally a hell. Since a while im kind bored about play the class that blizzard want to you to play it. Pure sadness here.

[velvet obsidian]

Blizz doesn't nerf mages friend. That's not how this works

[rotund ginkgo]

i put a lot of work into my warrior so far this expansion.. it's my favourite class to play.. but if it keeps goin on like this, i'll have to change from brown to pink, cause in every shape and form ret paladin is just way better, their aoe is consistent and outputs a lot of damage, their single target is just as disgusting, and they actually have useful utility as a dps, off heals, immunities, A BATTLE RES, a cleanse.. like warrior is designed to DO damage, yet it seems like they don't want them to actually DO BFD.

these nerfs to warrior are unwarranted and a knee jerk reaction to fury having strong BURST aoe damage, out side of dropping every cooldown on a mobs forehead fury aoe is mediocre at best, they're making it very hard to enjoy the game with constant back to back nerfs.

[south kayak]

that's not true, they've nerfed arcane a lot of times over the laast few weeks

[flat river]

fury: nerfed, they need to be shit we will never stop nerfs.
arcane mage, frost dk, fire mage: i like you, u can stay :3

[south kayak]

real

[flat river]

like i swear to god

[quartz tulip]

Fact is, fury is literally the worst dps in the game currently when it comes to 'damage done to bosses' according to logs. Now what i simply cannot wrap around me head is why the warrior dps in general is gimped so hard by blizzard, we are talking about a class that brings so little to any scenario of pve content at least in comparison to other classes utility wise which in turn in my head would mean they'd be compensated by doing more damage to sort of balance it out. At this moment i cannot see why anyone should bring a warrior dps over literally any other in the game, 2 stuns which is great dont get me wrong and shout. Now compare that to a shaman, evoker, rogue, hunter, mage, dk, druid and so on. Being a warrior main at ilvl 621 currently and see myself struggle to out dps people at like 10 ilvl lower feels sooooo damn bad. It feels like theres no point in me trying to improve my gear further as i just see myself getting lower and lower compared to other dps. And just to clarify im doing 10-11 keys, got 90+ logs, so its not like im just dogshit (always room for improvement) but yeah.. idk man...

[kind bolt]

is mountain thane the new aoe king?

[flat river]

if they gave us sustained dmg

[south kayak]

if LS was buffed by 50% it would be within 0.5% of slayer in m+ spec

real and true

[flat river]

and nerfed our burst to hell

i would be happy

[flat river]

sustained GOOD dmg

[willow cradle]

I can't

Ahahaha

[south kayak]

Hey sir, Thane is now the m+ go to next week and it has great sustain

there u go

[eternal sundial]

Fact is, fury is literally the worst dps in the game currently when it comes to 'damage done to bosses' according to logs. Now what i simply cannot wrap around me head is why the warrior dps in general is gimped so hard by blizzard, we are talking about a class that brings so little to any scenario of pve content at least in comparison to other classes utility wise which in turn in my head would mean they'd be compensated by doing more damage to sort of balance it out. At this moment i cannot see why anyone should bring a warrior dps over literally any other in the game, 2 stuns which is great dont get me wrong and shout. Now compare that to a shaman, evoker, rogue, hunter, mage, dk, druid and so on. Being a warrior main at ilvl 621 currently and see myself struggle to out dps people at like 10 ilvl lower feels sooooo damn bad. It feels like theres no point in me trying to improve my gear further as i just see myself getting lower and lower compared to other dps. And just to clarify im doing 10-11 keys, got 90+ logs, so its not like im just dogshit (always room for improvement) but yeah.. idk man...

[velvet obsidian]

I don't read much on anything super recent, but in the past week they're still top 3 boss damage in raid? They dropped one tier spot.

[flat river]

waiting for it to be the go to

[lavish mauve]

Our log dps to bosses is kind of influenced by being a add killer

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[flat river]

i honestly just raid heroic for the vault

so i couldn't care less for raid that much

[south kayak]

yeah you're right

[flat river]

im too busy to raid

[bitter palm]

CLAPPA META

CLAPPA META

CLAPPA META

[south kayak]

CLAPPA

[quartz tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1284278518917763124/SSMS_Bunny.gif

[south kayak]

we need more uses of this emote

[quartz tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[lavish mauve]

Clappaa

[south kayak]

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[velvet obsidian]

[lavish mauve]

We have triple stormbolt too

With clappa

Ez

[golden hare]

NO YOU RUN THE INTERVENE ONE

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/danderson-writing-daniel-larson-daniel-larson-writing-gif-2180786344632662216

[flat river]

with the last changes

[rotund ginkgo]

CLAPPA

[south kayak]

what erga said is real and true

[flat river]

are these nerfs

or buffs

or neutral

[south kayak]

neutral

for slayer