#fury

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warm crag
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it is just the way it is

edgy widget
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it's not that complicated in practice

  • press CB
  • press BB
  • press Rampage if capping rage
  • press RB if not capping rage
  • press BT if you can't press other things

The rest is all just minor caveat

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get the basics down, then worry about working in the minor nuance

meager void
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this should be pinned.

bronze elm
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yea that makes sense now, I thought that meant above 100 rage

clever belfry
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the minor opts are really not necessary

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at any level of play

warm crag
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i need the cowfarmer opportunist weakaura immediately

clever belfry
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i honestly do not remember

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what i changed for him

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but i opened his WA and it had >20 conditions

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and like 14 triggers

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and i really wanted to

warm crag
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very powerful

clever belfry
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🤯 🔫

warm crag
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idc he will r1 parse kyveza mythic and put is all in the dirt

sullen dove
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for one proc?

clever belfry
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no he has like

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10 extra rules

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like if at X rage with Y active and swing is within .Z

sullen dove
clever belfry
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just built diff

sullen dove
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simply cannot hope to comprehend his play

warm crag
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the swingtimer dependent weakauras are crazy

sullen dove
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on god dark horse to dethrone revvez

slim coral
clever belfry
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i hope he disabled the swing thing...

sullen dove
clever belfry
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it was kinda (?) useful in aberrus when i made it

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but like no

barren coral
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im literally pulling my hair at the today's demands to do heroic raids

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any mouthbreather can do 6/8 so wtf is up with the raid leads

dry hawk
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Fury seems like rot is,

Enraged? Press w/e lights up
Not enraged? Press rampage

sullen dove
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hey man... heroic brood is tough...

warm crag
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join a casual guild or

sullen dove
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got to hit all of the eggs.. critcake

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3/4/4 critcake

meager void
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I want context for my popcorn

clever belfry
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they just follow path of least resistance

teal pine
clever belfry
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why would they gamble on dogs 🤷‍♂️

sullen dove
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🦮 ?

barren coral
warm crag
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during lust you should have reck tho

sullen dove
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yea i do not look at rage bar ever

warm crag
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so half those conditionals go out of the window

sullen dove
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during lust

clever belfry
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3 mfe stacks

sullen dove
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and whatever else

clever belfry
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press button

meager void
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you turn monitor on? casual

clever belfry
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or lose cdr

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👍

sullen dove
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👍

barren coral
dry hawk
sullen dove
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MFE when it takes you 15 seconds to get your third stack then it just rips 2 more slayer strikes in 1 global

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big fan

warm crag
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execute at 1 mfe stack because you will be assigned to mechanics for the next 24 minutes so you want the imminent demise stack when bladestorm cds on its own

clever belfry
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(on brood i rarely delayed a 3 MFE exe when my BS was 2 globals away to force the cdr after)

clever belfry
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make your own group

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dont whine

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🤷‍♂️

sullen dove
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yea i think i do that on ansurek

barren coral
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wow bro ur so mature

clever belfry
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???

hardy cargo
barren coral
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not like ur typing in a channel thats been whining

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for 3 weeks past

clever belfry
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i dont whine about fury changes

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🤷‍♂️

dry hawk
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Doing queen tombs add damage solo just shows how fast I can farm bladestorm back

clever belfry
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cause i understand the game 👍

warm crag
barren coral
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yes u can be insufferable as fuck even though youre the raid leader

dry hawk
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That spell feels like a fucking lawn mower

barren coral
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cant believe it eitther

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but past that, i do make my own raids almost everytime

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but this week im fresh with 5/8 already finished and i cba reclearing for 1 more

sullen dove
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can u not enter the raid on your own lockout

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or u reset or somethin

meager void
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yes random person, your take is the correct one

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they should just cater to you personally, ofc.

barren coral
sullen dove
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who elses instance i mean just like you are the leader and walk in with the bosses youve killed and (somehow) i think ? you can just continue where you left off

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but idk how finnicky it is with heroic

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cuz ik if u reset bosses respawn on heroic

high jackal
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Hey, can someone explain to me how I go about getting a crafted weapon with the proper secondaries? I understand I need to get mats and find someone advertising in trade chat but just want to make sure I don't waste gold getting the wrong thing

meager void
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dude, this is an obvious "please roast me" thing

clever belfry
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look that up in auction house

warm crag
hardy cargo
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vers mastis harmonious

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if thats to your liking

clever belfry
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harmondeez

sullen dove
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dragindeez

barren coral
high jackal
hardy cargo
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ya, theres a special place for it when crafting, right next to where you put the enchanted crest/embellishment

sullen dove
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o u havent cleared anything this week ic, didnt realize

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i mean yea then can try and suffer pug or like first 4 get cleared in like 20min and can make group go to kyveza

hardy cargo
high jackal
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Follow up, what determines 619 vs 639 on my end? Just highest quality mats? Assuming i should just go for 619 (only 604 ilvl)

sullen dove
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the enchanted crest you use

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runed goes up to 619 and gilded 636

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but you have to farm 90 gildeds yourself

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either thru +9 m+ dungeons or mythic raid or heroic end bosses

slim coral
barren coral
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were there some items that could be boosted to 639 even without max tier mats if you used conc?

meager void
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what

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I think only profession equip atm

edgy widget
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whether that item ends up 1-5 stars (lowest - highest ilvl) is determined by the quality of the mats and the skill of the crafter

high jackal
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thank you - so crests just go in one of the additional mats slots like the algari missive?

teal pine
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need to talk to this npc by the enchanting table to turn your 90 crests into a nascent crest then get an enchanter to enchant the crest

meager void
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you might also want an embellishment

warm crag
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(45 if its heroic)

meager void
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on the bottom, those green +
from left to right: Missive, Crest and Embellishment.

high jackal
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awesome thank you

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last dumb question - tier 3 mats + runed crest will get me 619?

oblique trail
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As mentioned above, it entirely depends on the crafter

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Ask them before you send an order for what they need to max craft

rough tulip
meager void
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ask anyways, sometimes you get a rando without the skill LF for points

barren coral
eager thorn
broken kindle
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how do people craft socket slots? dont find the categorie wtf

eager thorn
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Magnificent jewelers setting

hardy cargo
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on jewelry you can buy a "mignificent jewler setting"

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for other slots u get it from vendor next to vault

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for a token u take from vault

iron portal
eager thorn
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Yes?

high jackal
eager thorn
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You cant craft any other socket slogs

iron portal
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I just added to it

broken kindle
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oh lol ty guys

eager thorn
iron portal
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But Golga already wrote it down

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Or just win rng lottery

eager thorn
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I imagine you could just report em if they scammed anyway

hardy cargo
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unfort report button doesnt get u your gold or mats back

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even if they get banned

rough tulip
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always put your craft on max quality

eager thorn
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Id happily lose 50k getting someone banned

rough tulip
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find a new guy if he tells you not to

iron portal
eager thorn
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Could be diff on other servers but not always possible

clever belfry
iron portal
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Strange they dont allow putting min quality for public orders

iron portal
clever belfry
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Public orders could be so good this xpac if u could set min quality

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cause u can guarantee max rank...

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But no, you just cant fucking set qual req

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so they're useless

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👍

iron portal
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Yea imma be honest, i sometimes use concentration for public orders but mostly i just grab gold

eager thorn
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They’re not

rough tulip
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it’s easy enough to post in trade chat what ur crafting you’ll get a buncha responses

eager thorn
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I always do public for stuff where quality doesnt matter

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Missives crests etc

clever belfry
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and im happy for it

rough tulip
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beast

eager thorn
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Ye the prices some ppl charge is ridiculous

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Plate pvp dudes were asking like 20k each craft for r5

coarse nest
iron portal
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Gotta go fast

iron portal
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But yes they are bit too much

coarse nest
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Speed meta gem is the way

eager thorn
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I just replied to them all saying 5k take or leave and start like an hour some dude agreed

tawny pivot
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When are they upping Mountain King ST anyway

iron portal
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Next tier

dark flint
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upping? ST for warriors?

tawny pivot
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sad dwarf noises

barren coral
tawny pivot
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On the plus side my mythic tmog is almost done so I'm ready to dorf up

iron portal
tawny pivot
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I can't believe they put in mountain king and not have it bis

eager thorn
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And big crafters have like 8 accs anyway

barren coral
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for which i agree you should pay extra

eager thorn
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I dont agree w it

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They should make crafting like classic again

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Hit button make item no problems

iron portal
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Yes and it is limited resource for day

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Cause it regenerates slowly

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Unless you get proc off ingenuity

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I crafted rank 5 weps for guildies, took me 480 concentration

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Thats almost half of the max cap

modest condor
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i spent almost all my conc on npc crafts

iron portal
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Damn patrons and their expensive orders

tawny pivot
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Fucking Millhouse

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Makes orders with 8 sanc alloys missing

barren coral
tawny pivot
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Or artisans guild ordering earthen hammer with no mats

barren coral
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its confusing as shit, and its too involved in the main gearing process

modest condor
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milhouse is not a meme

tawny pivot
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How about you go fuck yourself, Milhouse

clever belfry
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milhouse is a joke that shouldve died

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about 15yrs ago

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he has not been fu

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nny

tawny pivot
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Thrillho

barren coral
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crafting should be about consistent usage items and quick gear boosts, not BiS

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or at the very least

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BiS shouldnt come exclusively from crafting in any scenario

iron portal
iron portal
modest condor
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i mean isnt that how it is right now

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except for embellishments, crafting is not bis

eager thorn
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it is for most players though

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i imagine most ppl arent gonna end a season with a lot of myth track gear

modest condor
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ok but it's still not bis

barren coral
modest condor
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and if you cant do +9s then you're not getting myth track crafted gear either

barren coral
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allow embellish on certain droppable gear

eager thorn
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well last 2 bosses of hero raid drop gilded

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easier to get in one of those groups than it is a 10

restive peak
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Why would you want embellishments on droppable gear

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That would make them insanely RNG, and potentially useless if you get the item you need but it has a shit embellish

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Lmao

eager thorn
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im assuming they mean just use it like an enchant

meager void
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he prob means being able to embellish a drop

eager thorn
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not it drops like an additional stat

restive peak
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that would kill crafting

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It's ok for the game to have different avenues, it's gonna be ok

barren coral
gusty cloak
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is it okay to craft cloak? since my bracers/belt have a socket already

restive peak
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What would that even improve LMAO

restive peak
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They want you to have to craft, and use them, it's by design

meager void
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what could be thought out, but Im not sure of the caveats, is about that 3ilvl difference.

restive peak
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It would negate the crafting quest requirements completely and kill crafting

fading sky
restive peak
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Why would I spent 90 crests

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To craft an item I will replace fully when my vault decides it likes me

meager void
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?

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its -3ilvl

restive peak
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Everyone chases BIS, we have people here daily saying "WHICH 1 OF MY ITEMS IS BIS"

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This allows you 2 free slots you don't have to think about, that are extremely powerful, and keep crafting a relevant part of the game

lament lagoon
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Speaking of gilded I need two more m9s, someone carry me plox

meager void
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im feeling you are not reading what im writing

restive peak
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I don't think you're articulating very well then

storm rune
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oooohhhhh

fading sky
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Hmm so... ideally we wouldnt need to craft weap either😅

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Just 2 rando slots

iron portal
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True Bis is the friends you yelled at along the way

meager void
fading sky
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Tbh they could make embellish items go to msx ilvl tbh

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Make embellish add 3 ilvls

restive peak
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They want them at 636 for whatever reason design-wise

fading sky
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I thinl thats fine overall for crafting imho just make the embellishments add the øadt 3

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So weapons dont feel bad to craft

summer quail
# meager void its -3ilvl

exactly, it's 3 ilvls less and you have to spend 90 crests for it. if you get a better item in vault you just wasted 90 crests and the gold on costs

meager void
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we are just misunderstaing each other here

fading sky
summer quail
fading sky
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But u do c the point that embellished items being max lvl would be better

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Only those

meager void
fading sky
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We tried crafted gear being max lvl

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Peeps ended up with only crafted gear

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Now to me that was nice

buoyant salmon
fading sky
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Season 1

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Df

buoyant salmon
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it was equal to non last 2 myhtic

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mythic

meager void
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what was the thing that used to be available when you could change gear stat combo?

buoyant salmon
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424 off last 2 bosses vs 421 crafted

fading sky
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Ye but heck that was ok?

buoyant salmon
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its close enough but was a difference for sure

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it was like that all of df

fading sky
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Last 2 mythic bosses imho should be higher than the rest

fading sky
buoyant salmon
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oh wait yeah ur right

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when they added myth track

coarse nest
craggy dirge
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Does anyone know what ability / buff fury gets from blessing-from-beyond this week? I can't seem to find it

fading sky
dusty rose
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Haste or mastery on rings ?

fading sky
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Yes

restive peak
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Yep that's likely the reason

runic violet
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haste only if u don't feel your rotation fluidic

fading sky
coarse nest
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In theory someone could have perfect gear without mythic raiding

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They definitely do not want that

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That’s why M+ gear is so gated

storm birch
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Well aren’t fault m+ gear myth quality just like mythic raid gear

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So technically they can both be upgraded to same Ilvl except end bosses drops

coarse nest
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Yes but you can’t farm Myth track not even once weekly

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You just get the lottery box

storm birch
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Technically you could get to same ilvl just can’t get the specific raid loot if you don’t raid

grim scroll
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new to dps ( tank normaly). should i always pop CD or try to hold for certain pack during M+ ? cause only 1.5m.

coarse nest
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Takes much longer if you do not mythic raid though

storm birch
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Yea I was just saying you can get just as geared off m+ which I think is good cause not everyone. Can mythic raid due to time constraints

coarse nest
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I think it’s good too

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I’d vote for higher ilvl than 613 even personally

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Just like mythic raid you could be eligible for a 623 item from a 10 once a week or something

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They don’t want gearing to be to fast though and that would definitely speed it way up

storm birch
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Yea I’m just happy cause I’m only 1/8 mythic so far but 622 ilvl I like how many ways there are to acquire gear

rotund ginkgo
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its so over

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make details attribute the 5% to us 😠

heavy sparrow
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I bet if torghast rewarded gear like delves does, the community perception for it would have been a lot more similar to delves

fading sky
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Pretend he gets pi

heavy sparrow
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Honestly, torghast is basically delves but with cooler shit, delves are not nearly as fun as m+ or raids

buoyant salmon
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torghast was dogshit bc you were required to do them for legendaries

rotund ginkgo
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i think i got 1 or 2

barren coral
coarse nest
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Beta version of torghast was the best

iron portal
heavy sparrow
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And delves gives you gear, potato potato

iron portal
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Poetic

rotund ginkgo
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ah i didnt get pi

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he got 4

coarse nest
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They completely ruined the fun of it for live

storm rune
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Also I remember sucking at torghast

buoyant salmon
heavy sparrow
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It's hero path gear

buoyant salmon
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it was relevant for exactly 1 week before you could do other content for the same/better items

barren coral
iron portal
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Delves are dead

vocal siren
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sure but its an alternative path to getting the gear

vocal siren
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it doesn't need to be the best

buoyant salmon
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any time you wanted a legendary you had to do torghast

barren coral
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tanks pulling 1 minor mob at a time and healers asking for drink breaks

vocal siren
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it has its place

coarse nest
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Delves are great content for the right people

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My coworker who only does world content

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Loves delves

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It enables him to get “good gear”

rotund ginkgo
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the spriest did 8 pi casts in a 30 min key
he did 4 of them on the feral
and thats it

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the other 4 were on himself

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thats WILD

vocal siren
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I would absolutely love if i got gear

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that didnt have verse on it

vocal siren
buoyant salmon
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and used them all on feral

heavy sparrow
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I always do solo, why would i bother doing them with another player?

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I\m just gonna do m+ or raids if i wanna do group content

barren coral
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is brann healer good enough to solo t8 now?

iron portal
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Was fine even before

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But yes

heavy sparrow
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It's trivial with brann healer at 590 with the correct class

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With some it's a little harder, but still pretty easy

eager thorn
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people were soloing t8 week 1

humble plover
# rotund ginkgo

Been losing to ret pallies, mm hunters, my 10 ilvl lower monk all week. Feels bad man

barren coral
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and i didnt bother to keep track

eager thorn
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they made it easier afaik

mossy fox
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it's defo easier now

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i went in as like 550 ilvl fresh fdk and soloed t8 delves with healer brann

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healer brann makes it easy

heavy sparrow
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Yea

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But

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Frost dk is also one of the best classes for delves

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For example if you were to try on dev evoker, i don't think you'd be able to do it at the same ilvl and heal brann

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Frost dk damage profile with death is seriously quite amazing for delves and m+

tardy solar
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530ish

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But also I was doing t7s, cause they still give same track as 8s

heavy sparrow
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I was quite surprised when i saw maps giving hero track loot

tardy solar
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I feel like delve loot is gonna be nerfed

fervent yoke
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Did we get buffed today

heavy sparrow
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I hope not, it's a good way to get alts ilvl up until you can do m+

fervent yoke
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Long shot

tardy solar
rotund ginkgo
meager void
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so he just used pi 4 times

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which is, ofc, even worse lol

tardy solar
eager thorn
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when

odd star
fervent yoke
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I hope they give thane a lot of love it’s fun imo

unreal cosmos
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Hey guys, do you know if zekvir infinite horror is still reflectable ?

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I mean the damage precisely

iron portal
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So far yes

eager thorn
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ive heard the ? fear is reflectable but ?? isnt

iron portal
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Fear in ?? Second phase

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Only

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First phase tier ? Fear isnt

unreal cosmos
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The ?? Was some days ago, but I'm trying right now, seems like I'm not fear, I don't take damage but I don't see damage on zekvir

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But perhaps I'm mistaken

meager veldt
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how does Wings of Shattered Sorrow at heroic track compare to a myth track cloak? is it work using at that itlvl difference?

unreal cosmos
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I should see it on details right ?

tardy solar
iron portal
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But again, only second phase big fear is

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Unless they stealth nerfed it

unreal cosmos
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Yeah I'm talking about second phase

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Oh when I think about it, he was 42%, I reflect 2 horror, he was at 41% , must have missed a kick in fact

mossy fox
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still much easier now than it was pre-fix though

iron portal
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So they must have fixed it in past week

unreal cosmos
unreal cosmos
eager thorn
mossy fox
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yeah likely did the fix when they applied the other nerfs to him

quaint elbow
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PLZZZ MORE NEEERFS BLIZZ, HIT ME HARDER DADDY

iron portal
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Here

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I did it 7 days ago

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Still worked

mossy fox
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dunno when they nerfed zek but was around that time

iron portal
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They nerfed him before that

restive peak
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Yeah bro I take back everything I said

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He died 8 times

iron portal
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Worked after nerf for sure

unreal cosmos
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Will dodge so, no point taking the risk of reflect if it does nothing

mossy fox
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o so they nerfed him and then fixed at some point after

iron portal
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More uptime

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If you reflect

mossy fox
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reflect is still useful especially if it lets you stay on the cocoon

unreal cosmos
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Yep sure

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And well deflect is more than nothing

eager thorn
mossy fox
restive peak
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I didn't think we were THIS bad

split coyote
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Any new meld techs for m+. Bought a race change but haven't used it yet

mossy fox
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we sure are

restive peak
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But holy FUCK dude

eager thorn
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are we this bad or are unholy this good

tardy solar
pure totem
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we can't compete

restive peak
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That is a 12 we didn't time

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To put that in perspective

mossy fox
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there were already specs that beat me on +12-15 keys on the beta

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before we got hit by all these nerfs

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i knew this was coming

barren coral
restive peak
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Yeah we're legit dead

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No I'm like #3 warr and have topped DPS every run, but clearly jaded cuz we don't run DK/enh

quaint elbow
# restive peak

This is absurd lol. How can I even try if the best parsers are getting dumped on like that

restive peak
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But holy FUCK

barren coral
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fury gets 1000 consecutive PVE nerfs and blizzard pretends only raiding exists

mossy fox
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this is why i started dooming relatively early keks

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got to stop the nerf train

tardy solar
fluid cedar
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Multiple Top 10 rio woyers are dooming?? It’s not looking good…

barren coral
restive peak
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He's not even top 10 DK...lol

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I mean he's a gamer, he's the glead of DMG

unreal cosmos
restive peak
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But still

tardy solar
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😬

restive peak
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I have NEVER been fucked that hard in a key, ever, any season

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Not even sp last season

quaint elbow
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Like it's been for the past weeks, Fury Warrior Meta Strat is chosing which spec to reroll to

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Fuck me

pale lava
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we need a 5th nerf

barren coral
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not like we ask to be dk levels of busted, but holy shit stop nerfing our aoe when were already bottoming the m+ charts

restive peak
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I mean quite literally I've never been gapped this hard

mossy fox
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almost like our burst was balanced around the fact we deal 0 dmg outside of cds

restive peak
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^

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Stupid as fuck design

tardy solar
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And then they gut our burst

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Whack

restive peak
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All they had to do

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ALLLLL THEY HAD TO DO

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Was remove powerful enrage

pale lava
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I'm waiting for the copers to say that fury is fine

tardy solar
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Fury is still fun, so i probably won't reroll

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But it definitely feels bad :/

restive peak
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I mean

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I'm lvling a DK rn

barren coral
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same

teal tulip
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is there a recruiment channel here? I thought there was one before

mossy fox
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gripcake is 603 and got 4set yesterday

sudden tusk
mossy fox
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legit gonna bring it to 10/11 keys tonight

tardy solar
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Gripcake

pure totem
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ok fuck it, lets all reroll dk

tardy solar
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You gonna upload dk vids?

mossy fox
#

still gotta take war to 12 keys until it's more geared tho

tardy solar
mossy fox
#

this is how we win

#

we drag everyone down

pure totem
#

YES!

tardy solar
#

Bet

chilly fractal
unreal cosmos
#

Vicious

#

Love it

barren coral
unreal cosmos
#

Another zekvir question, how did you guys managed the enfeeble dot ?

chilly fractal
#

Odyn’s

coarse nest
chilly fractal
#

Or Avatar

coarse nest
chilly fractal
#

It gets rid of it

restive peak
#

DK lvlin area is full LOL

sullen dove
tardy solar
#

insert Pikachu emoji

meager void
# restive peak

isnt Aug dmg contribution to DK vastly superior to Warrior too? Like dont you need to check wcl for this to have actual numbers.
Legit idk question.

sullen dove
#

With the right slayer talent

chilly fractal
#

That too yea

unreal cosmos
unreal cosmos
restive peak
#

Aug removed @meager void

#

So it's less of a fucking, but still a fucking

chilly fractal
#

You don’t really need to min/max your damage just stay alive

#

I can’t get through the fight without a lag spike which sucks

sudden tusk
#

Debating on testing am tonight in keys wonder if it does better overall

unreal cosmos
calm quartz
#

But how does ret compare to dk so I can hate them more

meager void
#

TT

calm quartz
#

The joke is I'm now play ret

unreal cosmos
#

Thanks for advices, on to try now

sudden tusk
#

Good thing I've geared my outlaw rogue

#

I'll have something that can actually key

coarse nest
sudden tusk
#

Outlaw plays like fury should

barren coral
#

hey man, i dont think any dps in any mmo should play like outlaw

sullen dove
#

activate Mickey Mouse buff to cleave damage persistently for much longer

barren coral
#

but im happy that youre happy

sullen dove
#

And not add a mandatory button to rotetion every 4 globals

#

Outlaw is basically just fan of long swords fury

coarse nest
#

True

sudden tusk
#

Outlaw fun

barren coral
#

vanish is an absolutely disgusting cooldown to use offensively

sudden tusk
#

Now that I got the harbinger of runed achieve I can send upgrades too

coarse nest
#

Is current outlaw the same as season 3 DF outlaw?

barren coral
#

i tried outlaw and it just felt so stupid

sudden tusk
#

It's a little slower after losing tier bonus but it's the same

exotic glacier
#

call me silly, but I wish that outlaw didnt need to use stealth mechanics AT ALL for anything DPS related.

sudden tusk
#

Stealthpiss will rise

barren coral
#

its why theyre bottom of the playrate charts despite performing decent

tardy solar
#

Probably an unpopular opinion

exotic glacier
tepid wolf
#

You are talking alot about DKs but what about Paladins damages that doesnt even require any setup

barren coral
#

like how you fuck up ret

tardy solar
tepid wolf
#

it's as difficult as fury yeah, idk how they do fail while they can just

sudden tusk
tepid wolf
barren coral
sudden tusk
dapper goblet
#

cant be crying when your class is good in raid

sullen dove
#

n = 8 unholy

#

Red man two broken specs

#

Joewari da

sudden tusk
#

I want to say you are wrong but you aren't my class just sucks everywhere else

eager thorn
#

cb rampage cb rampage

#

repeat

barren coral
#

mfe marks and fury gen

sudden tusk
#

I just want to play my main in keys but I'm doing healer damage

barren coral
#

since you go from 80 fury to 130 in less than half a second

calm quartz
#

Ret is literally spend Holy power

#

Don't have any? Generate that shit

sudden tusk
#

Who would win 620 raid warrior or one 609 frosty boi

calm quartz
#

Lower the frosty bois ilvl more

#

For a fair chance

exotic glacier
#

590 frosty boi insta dps invites.

eager thorn
#

if ur losing to 609 frost as 620 fury surely thats a skill issue

young swan
#

assuming equal skill, prob not lmfao

clever path
coarse nest
#

Mage gets invites because its toolkit is unmatched

old cloud
#

Did they fix it so we cant leap out of the ability on last boss of ara kara anymore??

eager thorn
coarse nest
#

It just so happens to have great damage also

eager thorn
#

cos hc ansurek theres a 500k diff from 609 frost to 619 fury r1

nimble ermine
#

talking about m+

nimble ermine
#

ah nvm

young swan
#

im pretty sure hes just saying a 620 raid geared warrior

#

maybe im wrong

eager thorn
#

ah

#

i assumed in raid

nimble ermine
#

in raid its diff

#

but in m+

#

the frost has a big chance lmao

eager thorn
#

but like even m+, id say im a decent player and at 620ilvl i rarely get beat on dps

#

could definitely be pugs skill issue but i dont think its that bad

nimble ermine
#

i mean its assuming same skill and tank playing around the fdk

#

with pugs its a gamble

eager thorn
#

yea i can only go off of my own experiences cos i dont really watch any wow content outside of fury vids to know how raid fights play

short crypt
#

Even my 606 no craft moonkin does same dam as my warrior 🥹

heady cargo
#

i know at least frost dk does tank dps outside of cds if it doesn't win the reaper's mark lottery

#

similar story with havoc as well afaik

tulip swallow
#

Pillar is only 45 seconds, frost is big chilling

sour frigate
#

and fury is 1 30

eager thorn
#

uproar go brr

#

i wonder how uproar+am feels in m+ tbh

sour frigate
#

avatar into am 🙏

tepid wolf
#

How much are pally cds ?

heady cargo
#

ret paladin cds are 30sec

tepid wolf
#

Oof

heady cargo
#

and you gain 4 or 5 seconds of wings every so often while using spenders

#

and another handful of seconds of wings whenever someone dies

#

and most of your buttons have range so you don't have to worry about downtime

#

ret pal pretty comfy rn

tepid wolf
#

Let's rerollllll

barren coral
#

do i need to do anything specific to link up my alts on r.io or its automatic

eager thorn
#

Should prob auto if your bnet is linked

barren coral
#

how do i do that

#

does it come automatically with addon install?

winter shoal
eager thorn
#

If you go to the site theres a button to link

winter shoal
#

And then you log into r.io with battlenet and it should sync them

#

I think you can bypass the 200io minimum if you pay for it? But also that's like 2 keys so nbd

sudden tusk
#

It's season 2 levels of trash rn. And we don't even have the additional nerfs in yet

tidal kindle
#

DK Mage Enh + boomie pulled around

#

All do that to us

eager thorn
#

I remember seeing boomie players complain on twitter at season start

#

Now they livin good

sudden tusk
#

They got buffed once while we got nerfed 5 times

#

Dk wrath levels of hero class avoiding nerfs

red coral
iron portal
#

Did he have another meltdown?

#

Oh ok it loaded now

dire vigil
#

Maybe massive thane buffs will save us. keks

blissful delta
#

lmaooooooo

nimble kraken
#

I theoretically make a 636 2hander, does my offhand also level to 636 (myth 5?) for just valourstones?

sudden tusk
#

It's okay we are one (one) liquid arthur tier list from getting buffs

iron portal
blissful delta
#

we wont be getting anything for a while 🙂

#

blizzard is four weeks behind

sudden tusk
#

War "Put the fries in the bag bro" rior

restive peak
blissful delta
#

Would you like extra sauce sir

restive peak
#

This games current balance is my 13th reason bro

sudden tusk
#

Arms can't compete either. So we actually don't have a key viable spec

iron portal
#

Prot

sudden tusk
#

If someone says prot I'm shoving them in a locker

iron portal
red coral
#

haha

blissful delta
#

lol

iron portal
#

Ez

dire vigil
#

I was so excited to come back to warrior and had a lot of fun during pre-patch and up to now. Insanely unfortunate that they’re gutting it for no reason.

hushed trench
#

Yo anyone else feel like they hit a fucking wall? Getting gilded crests is so fucking difficult this patch it's insane. Trying to pug 9s is awful

red coral
#

itll get easier

hushed trench
#

How though

olive wraith
#

I haven’t had time to grind 7s so my io is ass

dire vigil
#

With 620 ivl 9s are pretty trivial

olive wraith
#

As the season progresses more people will be doing 9s

red coral
#

youre probably in the hell zone where your rating is too low to get invited to play with non trash players

dire vigil
#

Unless your fotm roller DK dps bricks the key…

iron portal
#

Im more pissed about runed crest caps

hushed trench
#

Yeah I mean you're not wrong. I'm only at like 2060 which is honestly not enough at this point

red coral
#

you need like 2400+ and 620+ to get invited to play with people who can time 9s in lfg

#

(im generalizing but probably common for many)

hushed trench
#

Yeah but even at 616 I feel like I'm sweating my ass off in 9s

#

Idk maybe I suck but it feels way harder than DF

#

I didn't play s4 though

red coral
#

that kind of makes sense scaling wise

#

youre in heroic gear farming myth level crests

#

it should probably be tough at that point

hushed trench
#

Yeah wasn't it +17s dropping highest crests with 18s giving myth vault?

#

Feels like there should be at least a little overlap, with 8s giving gilded. Idk I'm probably wrong

red coral
#

i think its kind of dumb that it's 5 or 12 with nothing in between

#

feel like you should get more from multichesting as well? idk

teal pine
hushed trench
#

Yeah I hear that for sure

iron portal
#

I got shield for my offspec and it didnt get discount

#

At least thats how i remember it

#

Works that way with rings and trinkets though

teal pine
#

crafted 1h on my dk (dander) and i cant upgrade my other one for free

iron portal
teal pine
#

i had just seen in here so much that it was free for your other weapon

red coral
#

it's free with 2h

night relic
#

2h superiority

#

Gotta spend 2 sparks but get 2nd freely upgraded

nimble kraken
#

Fury being the only class that duals two handers gets that pass. Like if a ret got a 2h they’d upgrade a different 2h for valour

night relic
#

U gotta upgrade 2 onehanders to get free track?

fathom valley
#

Hey guys we dooming today or nah?

coarse nest
#

Well ret and DK exist so yeah might as well

restive peak
#

Lmfao these buffs

#

DO NOTHING

wheat estuary
#

We’re always dooming

restive peak
#

ENH AND FDK AND MAGE UNTOUCHED LEWLLLL

olive wraith
hardy cargo
restive peak
#

Just posted

#

Tier set 15% for ramp now, 20% per stack for BT

plucky ice
#

blizz's favorite snowflakes ofc they don't get nerfed

restive peak
#

Everything else was just buffs for other classes, enh/fdk/mage did not get nerfed

plucky ice
#

brown class bad

#

it's a joke man it's over

hardy cargo
#

LOL make the dogshit tier set stronger very pog

restive peak
#

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHO IS ON THEIR TUNING TEAM BRO

hardy cargo
#

also did they double down on he culling cyclone nerf? from 15->10?

distant isle
#

Dog shit is still dogshit

modest condor
#

huge buffs poggers

hardy cargo
#

or am I trippin

restive peak
#

How in the hell do shaman/fdk/mage get away w this lol

tulip swallow
#

Why are they nerfing culling cyclone even more lmao

#

that shit is ass

olive wraith
#

But w for thane keks

tired brook
#

i swear i read 15 earlier

tidal kindle
#

Yes

hardy cargo
#

theres also no shot any amount of buffing lightning strikes makes MT viable

tidal kindle
#

They nerfed culling even more

#

Because it seems they do not know that culling is an ST talent

hardy cargo
#

at least, double digit buffs

slim pollen
#

Thane buffs, lets go Thor mode activate!

sudden sun
#

Just wait for achimitiros pin guys.

manic lark
#

Did anyone work out the math?

eager thorn
#

Wow we got buffs surely fury chat won’t be dooming clueless

plucky ice
#

buffs for ret lmao yea boy

tidal kindle
#

Tier buffs headmath says 1.5% gain

pliant knoll
#

That slayer nerf tho

pine echo
#

we need to wait for the only warrior who can read archimtiros. He can tell us more

tidal kindle
summer quail
#

eyo an actual buff with no nerf after? amazing

tulip swallow
#

Warrior devs not beating the reading comprehension allegations

tired brook
tulip swallow
#

Opportunist pushed down even more too

tired brook
#

lol

tidal kindle
#

These nerfs were slated for .5 patch

summer quail
#

i cannot read

tidal kindle
#

They pushed reset

plucky ice
#

LOL

tidal kindle
#

Dev HATES warrior

#

Dev wants to DELETE warrior
(Joke, just salt)

turbid abyss
#

what the actual heck kekw

hardy cargo
tired brook
#

Im not even mad bro they’re just doing us deviously rn

#

Im over it

#

Lfg

buoyant salmon
#

you guys are insane

#

holy fuck lol

glad coyote
#

So we going thane now?

tulip swallow
#

FDK nerfs where

tired brook
#

glad to see they’re giving love to our tier set

dark frost
#

Is thane viable now?

hushed trench
tired brook
#

So im happy its on the radar

red coral
#

SLAYER NERFED

olive wraith
#

I don’t know what thane talents those are

summer quail
#

blizz pls

tidal kindle
tired brook
storm lantern
#

it's the nerfs we saw on the PTR, it's not an another nerf

azure badger
#

On mythic broodtwister if you have experimental dosage can you stand directly on top of your partner to break egg or do you take damage from both circles?

sleek nexus
tidal kindle
summer quail
tidal kindle
#

They did not seem to care

dark frost
#

If we go thane ima be hyped

celest sierra
#

Is Mountain thane the new play now ?

tulip swallow
#

Brutal finish better in all situations keksquad

pine echo
#

Archimtiros is typing in the updates channel

tulip swallow
#

Don't worry, I'm sure they will nerf that too

vagrant cave
#

MT/AM. I would looooove that

tired brook
#

Thane is fun as fuck

south kayak
#

Definitely thane angle

#

Maybe

tired brook
#

im so down if its somewhat the same as slayer

hardy cargo
#

it might be betterin keys, but in raid nah

dark frost
#

Thangle

lean heart
#

theyre gonna just cap whirlwind to 2 targets next its joever

tired brook
#

dunno math yet, but at least our hero talents are sick

vagrant cave
#

Constant Recklessness with Lightning striking all over? YES PLZ

celest sierra
#

I have not touched thane yet what’s the difference etc between that and slayer

upbeat plume
#

Big thane buffs looks like

olive wraith
#

AM thane let’s go

tired brook
plucky ice
celest sierra
#

With these buffs and changes thane lookin like the play now

upbeat plume
#

Well slayers getting even heavier nerfs and that's alot of thane buffs so I'd say they are at least gonna be even soon

tidal kindle
#

Guys don't look

heavy galleon
#

Moutain thane fury now ? xD

plucky ice
#

LOL

pale lava
olive wraith
#

Ret buffs are gross

plucky ice
#

ret overlords

tawdry lily
tulip swallow
#

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt because that's the spec they weren't playing

pale lava
olive wraith
#

Isn’t that huge for their st

red berry
#

blizzard lmao

dire vigil
#

We got buffs bless up

storm lantern
#

Ret mostly play herald right now

heavy galleon
#

you think it's a buff ? xD

plucky ice
#

warrior dev rerolled ret

modest condor
#

surely they'll also give us a 5% aura buff on top of this to make up for getting nerfed while already being the worst at st

heavy galleon
#

buff 0 is still 0 :x

lapis shadow
upbeat plume
#

Yeah tier sets like what 6% now lol were making progress lol

fast mural
#

our tier got buffed guys

#

be happy

celest sierra
#

Our tier set buffed but slayer nerfed and thane buffed . Looks like take BT talents and swap to thane

summer crater
night cedar
#

Wait

modest condor
#

unless these thane buffs are more than 15% (which i doubt)

night cedar
#

The buffed us??

#

They

dire vigil
night cedar
#

Or im blind

south kayak
#

Just nerfed slayer but rest is buffs

quaint elbow
#

Omg, how the fuck did we get buffed. Clearly someone fucked up

storm lantern
#

Slayer nerf, tier set buff and Thane buff

lapis shadow
#

Yeah...slayer nerf is ST nerf

clear tendon
#

So we just run the rampage talent in slayer now

lapis shadow
#

Then compensated by tier buff

hardy cargo
modest condor
#

well at least the tierset buff is nice

tulip swallow
#

Slayer nerf is an overall nerf

celest sierra
#

The buffs they giving us don’t balence out the slayer buffs . Slayer lookin like it’s dying

frosty patrol
#

those ret buffs are for the hero spec no one played cuz its terrible

vagrant cave
#

What was the difference between Slayer and Thane before this tuning?

hard widget
#

🙂

split yoke
#

15%

modest condor
#

maybe the tierset equalizes the slayer nerfs

celest sierra
#

Slayer nerfs *

stark brook
#

Will mountain thane finally be good now?

frozen field
lapis shadow
#

:)

pale lava
hard widget
#

🙂

tender sky
#

Holy hero class tuning Batman

glad coyote
#

Bet we switch to thane now

runic cypress
#

What is this warriors getting buffed

modest condor
glad coyote
#

With these recent changes than we grt nerfed again

runic cypress
#

Is this real life

heavy galleon
#

FDK no nerf 😄

celest sierra
#

Yeh with these buffs and buffs to thane . Thane is def gunna be the play now

lapis shadow
modest condor
#

arms still catching strays

red berry
#

the slayer nerf is fucking perplexing

lost escarp
dark frost
red berry
#

genuinely baffling

inland flame
#

Breaks my heart to see a little thing like being unplayable making so many of my brothers and sisters switch to frost dk just because its unkillable and does double our damage

tulip swallow
red berry
#

thane is going to need a bit more then that to make it more relevant

#

the bloodthirst damage increase does help slayer a little imo granted

modest condor
#

and still no fdk nerfs skyhold

red berry
#

er

#

mountain thane

upbeat plume
#

I mean slayers getting even heavy nerfs then first stated tol

celest sierra
#

It’s gunna be more relevant then slayer now

odd star
#

i already went UH dk cause i predict them to nerf FDK where are the FDK nerfs blizz

buoyant salmon
#

i mean u can nerf fdk then every dk goes unholy

#

now what

tulip swallow
#

nerf unholy too

tender sky
#
* Fury is nerfed
* Other classes scale better with gear, trinkets, and tier
* Arms is meta for majority of season <-- YOU ARE HERE

WE DID IT! We completed the cycle!!!!

tulip swallow
#

fuck em

tired brook
#

what choco said

odd star
#

now u leave unhioly untocuhed

tired brook
#

both dk specs are absurb

#

absurd

plucky ice
#

tuning pass but no nerf to OP specs lmao nice one

odd star
#

nah leave UH alone i go from poverty warrior to UH i feel POWER

south kayak
#

The thane damage increase of Execute and RB from 15% to 25% is insane lmao

red berry
#

yeah idk why they didnt nerf the AoE of a few othe overperformind spec

inland flame
#

To my understading UH just has the niche of only shining on huge AoE, which isn't something you can do in super-high keys rn because of Guile

pale lava
#

and so on

red berry
#

tbf the raging blow talent from slayer outright increasing damage of raging blow by 30% alone

#

is goofy as fuck

inland flame
#

Guile range is the super-nerds tho

broken kindle
#

A MG FURY BROKEN AF AGAIN

red berry
#

and even if you buff execute

warm zephyr
#

Warrior god oden bless us with numbers!

broken kindle
#

LEGGGOOOOO

steel shard
#

forst dk 623 ilvl now blasting 2m overall dps and living natty without any defensives from standing in bad swirlies, combat ress, grips

broken kindle
#

JUICY BUFFS

red berry
#

its still not worth pressing

steel shard
red berry
#

because frankly

#

you have more buttons to make raging blow relevant

#

then you do execute. especially as thane

steel shard
#

no

red berry
#

what incentive do you have to press execute as thane

odd star
frank rover
#

blizzard have finest class tuner engineers

tranquil zenith
#

peepostudy is it looking good today?

frank rover
#

surely this isnt a nerf clueless

south kayak
#

Not for thane

steel shard
#

arms catching strays

#

is insanse

#

who is

#

the dev doing this

frank rover
#

that 1 leveling warrio 70-80 using mountain thane

#

will enjoy that mountain thane buff

tulip swallow
#

They're not even strays at this point

tired brook
#

just ordered pizza to celebrate these good times we’re living

upbeat plume
tranquil zenith
#

I read recently that there's only like 2 devs that design the classes, which doesn't seem like it'd make sense

odd star
iron portal
#

@golden hare right again

golden hare
#

nah but what

winter shoal
tulip swallow
#

I feel like they're buffing prot entirely on accident too

inland flame
#

I really like Thane but I wish you didn't have to give up so much to pick up the Thunder Clap suite. I'm such a Second Wind enjoyer.

golden hare
#

how does he do it

red berry
south kayak
#

Is this live next reset?

red berry
#

slayer has mark

celest sierra
#

I wanna see what @mossy fox and @edgy widget have to say

odd star
wanton saddle
tired brook
red berry
#

45% crit damage/crift/damage increase is big. as well as reducing CD of bladestorm?

south kayak
#

Ok

steel shard
frozen tapir
steel shard
#

like fury is so bad on that fight

tranquil zenith
winter shoal
south kayak
#

Pinging people randomly is a no go

inland flame
steel shard
#

source?

tranquil zenith
#

so you've got all these people screaming about fury, while ignoring actually broken specs

steel shard
#

ill post mine

celest sierra
#

What he say ?

heavy galleon
#

P2 : 50%
P4 : 100%
That's how our tier set was fucking BAD

winter shoal
# steel shard source?

Source: Boomie went arms for like 6 hours and then went back to fury for add dam so others could focus boss in p3

quiet geyser
#

Wait, so they're pushing the nerfs from the .5 patch early (slayer hero stuff), but not the bt/rb buffs? Thats a lil sus no?

upbeat plume
tulip swallow
#

hmmNod "Sir, a 6th nerf has hit fury warriors"

odd star
#

warrior is too much poverty and my guild has gazillion warrs, i go DK and become rockstar ez ggs

runic cypress
#

Please let the thane buffs be enough to make it a viable choice

red berry
#

and you could buff execute another 25% for thane but you still have 4 talents for raging blow

steel shard
#

shut up

tired brook
tranquil zenith
inland flame
frozen field
#

A lot of people seeing these tier buffs and forgetting our tier set was less than a 3% gain to begin with

bleak oak
agile light
#

just got this from a delve, is it any good for fury?

red berry
#

its important that when you're designing something you actually make it so whats relevant is considered

#

itll be nice for thane ST

#

but you're not running thane for ST

#

period

tranquil zenith
upbeat plume
#

I mean slayers st is getting clapped considerably while thanes is just going up

crisp prism
#

ok guys i have an idea

#

delete slayer

red berry
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the difference was 15% man

olive wraith
red berry
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that difference ewas not made up there

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prommy

tired brook
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prommy