fury

[static nest]

nothing is easier than bm unless they reworked it coming from df s4

[hardy cargo]

Proc damage hit that stacked and did more damage with each stack

[oblique trail]

Chance on hit to proc an attack on a random nearby enemy that stacked up to 10 times

[static nest]

at the very least ret has to pretend like holy power management is a thing

[slim coral]

Ooooo

[oblique trail]

On ST it was very good, in AoE it was ass

[acoustic anchor]

They dont have to pretend they're a melee class with how far away they can stand from their targets though

[static nest]

being far fucks holy power gen though

[errant vessel]

I miss playing havoc dh with 2x infinite stars on maut

[static nest]

bm is always 100% dmg unless pet ded

[errant vessel]

just praying you don't get oneshot by yourself

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fpcfpoVyrwEtPH5Kmg6qbH : guess it's time to go fishing for Grim Batol wrists

[warm crag]

your gear situation is dire

immediately loot more items

the unsocketed bis neck goes hard

[sick jungle]

what if he's poor

[warm crag]

do some delves brann throws you 5 gold once in a while

[sick jungle]

i just noticed he's simming at 626

[molten wing]

deliver papers for a week and buy 3 gold tokens

[sick jungle]

interesting

[molten wing]

best gold per hour

[acoustic anchor]

Can make a lot of gold with just mining and herbing tbh

[sick jungle]

I wish I had the crests for 626

[acoustic anchor]

Best moneymaker time wise is selling wow tokens

[sick jungle]

yep

i will never gather though

boring af

[acoustic anchor]

Aint too bad if u watch some youtube/netflix in the meantime and do it mostly braindead

[sick jungle]

kudos to those that do though

[acoustic anchor]

But I get what ur saying

[hasty tide]

I'm sure I'm gonna get a shard next run, right guys ?

[acoustic anchor]

99% of gamblers quit right before they're gonna make it big

[narrow narwhal]

I got hero sac on my first arakara run

[sick jungle]

i got hero khardros on my first grim batol 10

[barren coral]

who came up with the idea that your m+ key should get stuck on same dungeon if you fail

[iron portal]

The lad has had enough

[clever belfry]

+5

if u think u need voice for +5

and u were part of the 6 depletes

i think

[molten wing]

Anda please

[clever belfry]

someone is the main reason

[tidal kindle]

No elitism here

[molten wing]

the Demons i play with when doing +5/+6 on my alts

[tidal kindle]

[molten wing]

even the pope cant help them

[clever belfry]

i have done 0 m+ on my alt

thoughts

its just a split slave anyway

[tidal kindle]

Yah 4-7 range is

https://tenor.com/btZen.gif

[molten wing]

well that's good for your mental

[tidal kindle]

Esp this week

[clever belfry]

i would just go into 10s for weekly

anyway

lol

[tidal kindle]

With the shield affix

[coarse nest]

ThE oNlY rEaL kEyS aRe TiTlE rAnGe

[molten wing]

i've probably started and failed at least 4 , 4+ on my ret/WW monk after the demons just wipe at first boss and leave

[coarse nest]

[iron portal]

So we jump straight to 8

Got it

[errant vessel]

hardest keys to pug are def below 9

[clever belfry]

thoughts about this?

im not putting holes into this

[errant vessel]

because there's a high chance they're stuck there for a reason

[tidal kindle]

8 and 9 are coinflip

[pure echo]

Anyone know if the bloodthirst crit tracker archi made last expac still works? I’m theorizing we wanna cast BT/bloodbath prio over raging blow/crushing if at 100% crit chance even tho it’s not stated in the wowhead prio.

[iron portal]

ok

[molten wing]

like last night i go for a +4 City of Threads , random tank started moving 1st boss through the whole room because he thought he has to move out of the circle the boss has

[iron portal]

so we jump straight to 11s

[eternal canopy]

yo

[clever belfry]

8s are just 7s but harder

[iron portal]

Got it

[clever belfry]

NO reason to do 8s

[coarse nest]

[eternal canopy]

my sim is telling me to just get meta and all of one gem

[coarse nest]

HUNTER ALERT

[lime plaza]

What enchants are you guys running?

[eternal canopy]

is that right or am i doing something wrong

[iron portal]

Bless his soul

[vapid mulch]

It’s a good neck I simmed it and I finally broke 600k ST 👌🏻

[lime plaza]

Double Authority?

[clever belfry]

king

[iron portal]

Double depths atm but sim

[warm crag]

sieben achtet neun

[clever belfry]

wonder what class i played the second most
its either hunter pally or magus i think

maybe monk?

[pure echo]

If not does anyone have a working crit tracker?

[molten wing]

also WW monk SLAPS , the changes they are gonna do will make it even more fun

[vapid mulch]

Paladin is very popular

[clever belfry]

actually pally is probs below mage hunter monk now

[clever path]

Wdc tracking this

[clever belfry]

poor belfsloot!!!

[iron portal]

which specs you playing atm

[molten wing]

WW Monk/Ret/Havoc are my go to alts

frost DK i find boring, well dk in general

[tough tulip]

Whats best of the enrage talent? 15% haste or 15% dmg. M+ puposes only

[warm crag]

powerful enrage if theres any aoe

[pure echo]

What’s wdc?

[iron portal]

I would prefer 15% haste but powerful enrage it is

[glossy mirage]

raise you

speeeeeeed

[restive pewter]

mythic flex

sumn chill

[chrome plover]

same

gz

[tough tulip]

Imma try sim it i guess. What should i sim for m+..?? Dungeon slice?? Patchwork 5 target ? Dont know :S

[clever belfry]

u did not

get it

[glossy mirage]

its there

[clever belfry]

you still did not

[glossy mirage]

calling me a liar

[clever belfry]

get it

[glossy mirage]

OH

hurr durr

i did not 😦

[clever belfry]

i was just annoying people by posting my dogshit alt hunter that i dont play

having the neck 👍

it just exist to log in on wednesday for splits

[glossy mirage]

xD

well fuck

i was doing warrior roleplay

[clever belfry]

demonic character

[glossy mirage]

unga bubga

yeah thats cursed

[clever belfry]

she has 4set ok..

[glossy mirage]

she do

[clever belfry]

the darkmooncard

[glossy mirage]

she also has a 577 trinket

[clever belfry]

goes mega hard

do not put pot there

u dont wanna be perma spamming it honestly

but yeah u can kinda just macro ava into reck, its fine

[warm crag]

if you understand when not to press that macro then yeah that macro is perfectly fine

press it seperately

no need to reck charge in aoe

idk if you plan on using treacherous (which you should) the trinket uses are probably bad and you still need to remove pot

yeah then its fine you will have to remove one use line when you get treacherous though

im sorry to hear that

[golden hare]

i'm gay dps man

[radiant plank]

If u wanted to dps u would play transmitter

[warm crag]

im gay dps man and will do infinitely more damage than you

[radiant plank]

Trolling if u pickup smth else

[proven plume]

do we use 2x Authority of the depths or one and radiance?

[lofty lantern]

another 5% nerf incoming

[warm crag]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[acoustic anchor]

ret pala?

[clever belfry]

this is such a shit joke bro

not it

[oblique trail]

It's not but sure thing chief

Pop off

[warm crag]

source: i topped dps in one pull in a +2

[sour frigate]

skill issue

[pale lava]

are you playing AM or RA

[warm crag]

i want 3607 k silye aswell

[golden hare]

fury warrior !

[oblique trail]

furry warrior

[warm crag]

[clever belfry]

fuwwy wawwiow

[golden hare]

[clever belfry]

cwewawiwa

[warm crag]

boose has been asked to create a healer her to put behind my healing meter

[pale lava]

khardos isn't better than transmitter but using that trinket is aids

[warm crag]

opinion of the uninformed and unskilled

[fickle bluff]

[pale lava]

my 99 parses disagree

but sure

[warm crag]

holy shit dude 99 parses

im so sorry dude

[oblique trail]

I got a 100 parse and I think it's not bad

So your opinion is invalid

[pale lava]

good for you banezi

but it's not invalid

[warm crag]

what the fuck!!!!!!!!

my opinion instantly wins

[oblique trail]

Spongie linking healing parses

[crisp prism]

6k mastery vs 15k str

[pale lava]

but you defending an item so hard

[dire badge]

[pale lava]

is really weird tbh

just let ppl play w/e trinket they want

[oblique trail]

So hard?

[warm crag]

i like when people discover optimal setups in class discords instead of being told misinformation

[golden hare]

yeah don't optimise!!!! so toxic sponge!

[dire badge]

no spongie is allowed to log into your account and change your trinkets

[pale lava]

where did I say that

[oblique trail]

I don't like Transmitter but it's not as bad as people make it out to be

[pale lava]

I literally specified that transmitter is better

but it's just aids

so not sure what I said that is so wrong or bad

you guys need a vacation asap

those fury nerfs are making you all act very weird

[oblique trail]

Where are you getting all this negative energy from

[warm crag]

i think you need one if you instantly fall back to 99 parses instead of actually justifying what you're saying

[pale lava]

what's there to justify lol

[plush flower]

It’s pretty easy tbh. You either jump 3x or look front right of your character position. Doesn’t seem aids

[eternal sundial]

I have a 99 and ur now my bitch

[dire badge]

this is the most civil discussion this disc has had seen in like 3 weeks no one’s weird

[eternal sundial]

Bow down spongus

[warm crag]

STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i only bow to lolxd

supplier of gems, provider of settings

[eternal sundial]

🧎‍♀️

[pale lava]

I was called unskilled for thinking that transmitter is aids to use

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm crag]

i mean yeah "treach is bad because its condition is too difficult to achieve" is literally an opinion of the uninformed or unskilled

[plush flower]

Just wait someone will mention smf being viable and all hell will break loose

[pale lava]

aids doesn't equal too difficult

[warm crag]

calling something aids to use is a very extreme statement for having to move forwards and left or jump 3x

[eternal sundial]

Spngai popping off

[pale lava]

aids is annoying

dude

[oblique trail]

It's forwards and right!!

Get it right Spongie!!

[warm crag]

i think aids kills people

thats kind of the point or

[pale lava]

...

[plush flower]

Common sponge L

[arctic sinew]

Do you guys swap out transmitter for dawnbreaker?

[crisp prism]

you guys legit need to touch grass

[warm crag]

perhaps i am the unonfirmed

[eternal sundial]

Charge is aids (i got hit by swirly)

[pale lava]

doing that in an hour after I finish some work stuff

[warm crag]

it only fails for one of the three tasks and only if the ship is moving

so like realistically it only fails at most twice in the key imo

its annoying (aids), sure, but i wouldnt swap out 15k mainstat with ur burst just because its finnicky in that one part

[crisp prism]

he didnt say its worse tho

[smoky turret]

which should bring it behind other on uses i think

[crisp prism]

idk why you keep going

[oblique trail]

No xd

It does not

15k main stat during AoE combined with your CDs is infinitely more than 5-6k mastery

[warm crag]

how often do you press 90s cds in a 30 minute key

[pseudo rain]

why???????

[smoky turret]

lets say 17/18 times

[warm crag]

and two uses have a 33% chance of failing

[pale lava]

my thoughts exactly which is why I'll just retreat from the conversation as it's going nowhere

[smoky turret]

the disc one for me is not really consistant either

[warm crag]

idk in my experience only the pad stopped working while the ship is travelling

the orb seems fixed to the ship not to the world position

either way the ship only travels during two trash packs and then settles in place afaik

[smoky turret]

ok fair

[modest condor]

when you go afk at the start of waterworks without walking into the circle http://puu.sh/Kgajl/f1af377243.png

[smoky turret]

what about in ovi'nax

[warm crag]

wdym

[eternal sundial]

I wonder if 15k mainstat is good on a fight all about cds

[iron portal]

I just did +4 on my dudu

God damn its really harder than +10

haha

[eternal sundial]

Sounds like ur bad at druid

[iron portal]

Congratz your HP is back to prob Wotlk days

[normal pelican]

question has anyone done zekvir on ?? and how you gotten past needing 2 inturputs?

[iron portal]

I am def not the best

[smoky turret]

line up windows are pretty narrow and the environment is hectic

[iron portal]

Interpt only heal

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/yapdolla-yapdollar-xiaohongshu-fiveish-my-beloved-gif-9936300178307750832

[warm crag]

wdym no its not

[arctic sinew]

transmitter was an insane dps increase for me on ovi

[iron portal]

You can clear poison with charge or with bladestorm

[normal pelican]

then the dot kills me

[errant vessel]

Did sims stop taking the minigame on transmitter into account?

[iron portal]

Charge if you have slayer talent

[warm crag]

u just play treach + skarmorak and sync up treach with your main cds and skarmorak with your half goes

[normal pelican]

oh thats how thanks

[errant vessel]

Because it looks like it’s just instantly activating the buff now

[normal pelican]

wasn't awere of that

[warm crag]

u have 8 seconds to place your treach task and solve it before the adds spawn

[arctic sinew]

would u go skarmorak over 626 sacbrood?

[iron portal]

Just interupt heal

[normal pelican]

yeah just had a look thanks

[warm crag]

ye probs

if u play AM

[normal pelican]

that helps alot

[restive fiber]

how muh score do i need to be to get in a plus 7?

[iron portal]

2800

[pearl sequoia]

sorry fdk only

[arctic sinew]

minimum

[restive fiber]

yo thats hard

[warm crag]

ok but everyone is farming +7 ara karas you know that right

[pearl sequoia]

please unsubscribe

[crisp prism]

that brown class color is the problem

[warm crag]

you probably have an easier time applying to 8s

[plush flower]

Just get it from your vault

[barren coral]

bro i got 30 appliactions in 30 seconds for a +7

and i had to wait 15 mins to fill a +8

[pseudo rain]

Git gud

[summer crater]

1500 as tank

[restive fiber]

im 2300 as tank

[warm crag]

go list a +7 ara kara for a minute and see how many people apply

[pseudo rain]

and decline everyone just as revenge

[dry hawk]

Is it seriously 90 guilded crests for weapon recraft

[warm crag]

no

[modest condor]

recrafts dont cost crests

[oblique trail]

It's 90 gilded one-time for a 636 weapon

Recrafts just use normal mats

[summer crater]

Especially the mages/dks/shamans?

[restive fiber]

no i wont

[pseudo rain]

yes and delude inviting every bm/marksman

[dry hawk]

Oof ok ty got 75 to go then

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fpcfpoVyrwEtPH5Kmg6qbH or different upgrades

I have sad wrists

[warm crag]

6/6 upgrade sim is a bit fake or

619 sim more reasonable you should be hc crest capping this week

[dry hawk]

Wouldn't that just be like a .1% difference?

[warm crag]

7 ilvls is not a 0.1% difference on most pieces

[dry hawk]

The GB wrists upgrade proly wouldn't change is what I was saying. Like the actual spot to go farm

[warm crag]

can just craft there next week

idk why you crafted a cloak anyways

[narrow narwhal]

Be diabolical and say you have a 7 arakara and just decline everyone

[dry hawk]

It was the lowest piece of gear at the time

[warm crag]

oly moly

[willow cradle]

Rio shows what key people have

[warm crag]

im assuming you sent your free hc crest into wep

[dry hawk]

Yeah

[warm crag]

ya idk this is cooked

[dry hawk]

That's what I was trying to farm 9's for

[warm crag]

i wouldnt sim ST spec btw

you shouldnt really play it this season at all

[dry hawk]

You sim the ae spec on a st boss?

[warm crag]

ye

[dry hawk]

That's cooked

[warm crag]

its not

you play st spec on two fights in the entire game right now and you'd much rather press n and then spec arms

[dry hawk]

I like arms, but not that much

[warm crag]

you'll be fighting every boss in aoe spec and st stat prioritization roughly translates into aoe (if you use commo nsense for trinkets)

[smoky turret]

btw is arms still ahead after the next round of nerfs?

[warm crag]

probably

[eternal sundial]

Should

[upbeat sentinel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/998420322816634901/1291658868006326273/wSF4tit.png?ex=6700e68f&is=66ff950f&hm=a3bea10c18924ddaca4b7fac173c5639c11ad70c33a9c2ba7b4111f8d5619afe&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1085&height=800

pushing crests & M tier vault slots further up in the higher keys seems to have killed the fuck out of M+

[smoky turret]

oh and i took a closer look at ovinax logs, now i see what you mean tyvm

[warm crag]

just watch a pov from someone that plays the same talents and cd sets as you

the fight is omega scripted and very easy once you understand

[magic mortar]

Quick question, Transmitter sims great but usage of it is a pain in the ass for something like Ansurek - are y'all swapping it out for fights like that or what tips you got for it besides git gud.

[warm crag]

wdym killed doesnt this say theres like 2.2 mil keys complete this week or

[smoky turret]

i was very uninformed and was just going off hero exp

[upbeat sentinel]

no, 900k

[warm crag]

the circle and ball spawn in your front right

[smoky turret]

i didn't know we held ava and played am

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jdNw3MYoYcf9BJyNEJ3TF6 st

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6uHqFL1DPQz41xLybPdKMH mt

So you'd purposely sim 40k difference?

[upbeat sentinel]

We were at almost double those #'s in DF s1 at this point

[warm crag]

yeah? you literally dont touch the st spec

[magic mortar]

yeah, tracking this - the pain point is seeing something like the orb in the middle of the enconter. the circle is fine but the orange fucks me up lol

[eternal sundial]

40k is very little

[warm crag]

i mean idk you just need to practice how to aim and prepare for cds sets with the trinket

[dry hawk]

I didn't realize it was that close

[warm crag]

treacherous is probably the most insane 90s trinket theyve printed in a while

[magic mortar]

bet okay so git gud but git gud with practice lol

[upbeat sentinel]

The tradeoff is that it can be a bit awful to use

[torpid sand]

i love treacherous, but using this in M+ is hard

[magic mortar]

i got the WA for the audio cues

[warm crag]

if you dont want to play it you might awell spec arms

[upbeat sentinel]

but when you do it right it's great

[torpid sand]

i tried to use in city of threads last boss

i almost died

[dry hawk]

I'm so confused right now

[warm crag]

aim it better fool

[torpid sand]

IT FUCKING SPAWNED A STAND IN THE CIRCLE

[upbeat sentinel]

try aiming it in a melee heavy 30m 🙂

[torpid sand]

also this week is very easy with this xalatath healing buff

[upbeat sentinel]

"There is either an orb, or a pad, somewhere but i cannot find it" - Me, every pull on the second transmitter

[warm crag]

yeah i have enough understanding of object permanence to remember where to move in the front right to pick it up

[torpid sand]

Easier to find the orb than the pad ngl

But i don't think i will change this trinket for Khadros/Shard

It's far too strong

[dry hawk]

Like 40k is 40k, but why sim it different if it's that close

[upbeat sentinel]

If you're consistently not getting use out of it and can't get better, you probably should swap it lol

[torpid sand]

Oh i got used to it already

1 whole week getting fucked by it

[upbeat sentinel]

ya im in my get fucked week rn

[warm crag]

you use different talents and stuff

[torpid sand]

I got last week from HC vault

[upbeat sentinel]

I have an N one

my vaults have sucked nuts

[warm crag]

might aswell try to model what you do in raid fights and m+ closer than what you do by just simming pure st

[torpid sand]

this week vault was top garbage for me

like, i grabbed queen trinket HC

but i won't use this at all

i literally have no use for it now

[warm crag]

bis trinket is not a garbage vault you fool

[torpid sand]

i can't have two use trinkets!

it's either transmitter or mandate

[warm crag]

true! this is a new condition they added for the scorpws character in the world of warcraft

[iron portal]

first world problems

[warm crag]

(you need to get used to double on use it is extremely potent this season)

[torpid sand]

[eternal sundial]

Mandate is obscene

Especially as 2nd on use

It's soooooo much damage

[warm crag]

mandate is incredibly funny in stonevault shield boss

[torpid sand]

considering that this is my second garbage trinket, i might consider your opinion Spongie

[eternal sundial]

Or mists

[warm crag]

Please i beg you to equip mandate over that immediately

[torpid sand]

[warm crag]

unless you make extensive use of the violent explosion part

[eternal sundial]

@torpid sand Mandate crits for 10 mil +

It's worth

[torpid sand]

...so about that explosion

[warm crag]

is that the death explosion or the passive damage

[torpid sand]

passive damage, we did not die at all in the dungeon

[smoky turret]

wait mandate is huge value for the affix this week no?

[eternal sundial]

That's 1,5 mandate uses

[warm crag]

tbf voidstone gives haste

cant calc it like that

[warm crag]

sure but i think it kinda just dies to passive cleave

would much rather mandate some big guy

[torpid sand]

it's 820 haste tho

we are talking about like what

1%?

2% maybe?

[upbeat sentinel]

Isn't the internal CD for second on use only like 45s?

[torpid sand]

30

[warm crag]

it also gives mainstat while mandate gives crit

[warm crag]

its 20s

unless its treach

[eternal sundial]

I mean you can snipe cdr with it a lot

It's not bad

[warm crag]

where it gives a 30s lockout

[torpid sand]

i think i'm gonna sim rly quick

[upbeat sentinel]

that seems like it just makes FDK terrorists since their CDs are small

[warm crag]

idk what they play

[upbeat sentinel]

every build uses oblit for them

[warm crag]

certainly play treach but idk what the second trinket is

[upbeat sentinel]

and pillar timer is 45s

probably khadros

[dry hawk]

I'm confused now why my cloak choice craft and talent sims are bad, it does damage, I just was trying to see next place to get gear from

[warm crag]

we work off of the same timers ye

[warm crag]

cloak craft is fine

[upbeat sentinel]

their page is just "heres 4 on use trinkets, pick 2"

[naive swallow]

how to macro these kinda marker ?

https://gyazo.com/4f4170d81a0e6029d21e48ba5825a03c

and what are they called

[iron portal]

Pings

[warm crag]

world markers?

[eternal sundial]

Pings

[naive swallow]

can i cursor macro it ?

[lime plaza]

How do you ping in this game

[upbeat sentinel]

Khad/Mercurial/Skamorak/Treach

[naive swallow]

idk either

[iron portal]

go to options

[naive swallow]

oh

[iron portal]

In game menu

[torpid sand]

yep, mandate is the shit(i'm just using a 597 wrists because i want crests for everforged vambraces plz dont judge)

[naive swallow]

how many types of pings btw

[warm crag]

and the generic ping

[dry hawk]

See you simmed ST too

[eternal sundial]

The trinkets compared to the rest of the gear is criminal

Lmao

[torpid sand]

I always do

[warm crag]

im just personally not a fan of simming and optimizing your gear for a talent setup you will never end up playing in practice

[iron portal]

Clear opposite of me

[warm crag]

its not unreasonable that a specific gear set would sim better for ST spear while another would do better for roar aoe talents while you only use the aoe roar talents 99% of the time

[dry hawk]

I play it more often than I used to

[worldly thunder]

guys would u say hekili is a good addon to follow for proper rotation or no

[warm crag]

you really shouldnt play spear on more than 2 fights

and on those fights you should play arms optimally

[arctic sinew]

exactly

[warm crag]

you see how making gearing choices around two raid fights that dont matter, and not at all for m+ is kinda silly

[dry hawk]

Yeah until your group has so much AE damage that it's just not worth

[warm crag]

???

[arctic sinew]

then might aswell play arms

[warm crag]

brother you ARE the aoe damage others have to worry about

everyone else talents away from aoe before you do

[eternal sundial]

No spec in the game can out pad fury in raid

Nor should they try to

[plush flower]

If other classes are specing into aoe for pad that’s not a you problem. Fury is brought for aoe not st lmao

[eternal sundial]

We lose so little st

[warm crag]

you lose 40k st dps from talenting aoe, everyone loses infinite st dps from doing the same thing

[dry hawk]

Ok... I need to just go boom ae and delete now

[eternal sundial]

Look at rashanan

Fury solos adds

Rest goes st

Optimal strat

[warm crag]

gajeel plays spear on this!

@hallow sphinx

[dry hawk]

I'm soloing tomb damage on Queen in my group basically

[eternal sundial]

See?

[warm crag]

this is Literally Your Job

why are you simming spear

[eternal sundial]

Why would u wanna pass on that

[smoky turret]

if my guild plays double fury rashanan next week, im going arms ngl

[warm crag]

idk double fury still has merit if youre not 100% confident in a super fast reclear

[arctic sinew]

even 1 fury will one shot webs

[dry hawk]

Because it was told at one point to do that to me for more dot damage

[warm crag]

susge

[dry hawk]

Yeah... I see that now

[smoky turret]

we are both decent so 1 does the job but ig the 2nd is fail save

[dry hawk]

[warm crag]

i mean you should just desync your cds then

one guy opens pull the other holds 20s

then u alternate cds

you shouldnt be each others failsafe cause you shouldnt be cding the same add sets

[sinful spoke]

Ok but how about boosting my dk in heroic?

https://tenor.com/view/cute-shy-gif-27563579

[eternal sundial]

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cSrjz7EYewjzTpdAL9JTJz so this is more realistic?

[barren coral]

what ilvl should i be before going above +7?

[eternal sundial]

I did a 10 first week at 609

[arctic sinew]

650 if you wanna be invited, 600+ if running ur own keys

[eternal sundial]

So gear wise idk 610

To pug be 620

Even then 625 might be better

[echo lintel]

quick question, does vers affect Dps that much?

[oblique trail]

About as much as other stats

Vers just has a side effect of also working on trinkets etc

Which is accounted for when you sim yourself with trinkets/items that do damage

[eternal sundial]

The hack is to topgear sim

[plush flower]

For what?

[narrow narwhal]

1% versatility gives 1% damage

[dry hawk]

Trying to figure out the next piece to chase

[oblique trail]

No joke you have like the entire dungeon pool to get loot from if you want

[echo lintel]

okay, my vers is lik 7 but my crit is like 20

[plush flower]

Sac, shard and pieces the will probably give the most main stat or ilvl

[dry hawk]

So example wrists out of GB or helm to catalyst?

[plush flower]

Probably that or if a singular dungeon that has multiple upgrades that you can attempt to farm

Example being if x dungeons gives bracers but also has 3-4 other items on your droptimizer then your time is better farming that than only GB

Unless you’re going to cata for 4 set I wouldn’t waste cata charges on heroic track pieces of gear. Save them for mythic track items

[meager veldt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3WYxR9gnoBfozXvWPaz33t is kiss of deaht good or should i just pick the cloak for the defensiveness?

[dry hawk]

It was a champion piece trying to get to heroic piece so I can use better stat gloves, but wrists are my last veteran piece

[plush flower]

Much better options you can get for trinkets from dungeons so I wouldn’t take delve vault option. Cloak is good but there are also better options from dungeons with optimal stats. Could be a socket angle of all other options are borked

[gusty cloak]

you guys use Lux or Afenar WA for fury? or something else

[plush flower]

For lower item level pieces with also lower stat budgets I would focus on what gives more item level but maybe less optimal stats if another dungeon has more upgrades as well. If you want to slam GBs for bracers all day be my guest lmao

[ember apex]

I don't use anything I just have action bars at the bottom. I barely even need those.

[meager veldt]

thank you :)

[dry hawk]

Stat budget term is new to me

[plush flower]

Items like bracers, belt, boots or cloak will have the lower amount of main stat and secondaries compared to chest, legs, gloves and helm.

[light ermine]

I use afenar since DF. Very customizable nice aura

[barren coral]

what are the cheapest consumables that deliver the best gains ?

[oblique trail]

Rank 2 consumables

[plush flower]

So if GB only drops bracers with stats you want but that’s the only drop and another dungeon like city of threats has less optimal stat bracers but also more upgrades for other slots then you probably target farm city of threads

[oblique trail]

You can also go for R3 oils

[dry hawk]

Ahh so basically go for "what has most bang for buck" scenario

[oblique trail]

Just don't bother with whetstones if you're trying to save gold

[plush flower]

Yes, you can always get better options from mythic track vaults in the future. But if you value your time and don’t want to sit in group finder only looking for GBs all day then you focus on other dungeons with more upgrades

If you wanna do that for GB, go for it. But probably a waste of time when CoT has a couple of options for you

[dry hawk]

I have an 11 CoT but so sus

[willow cradle]

Just queue for both dungeons

Ez fix

[dry hawk]

True

[willow cradle]

Also good morning Troll

[dry hawk]

Morning Tin!

[willow cradle]

How's the wife and kid?

[dry hawk]

Crazy as always 😂

[plush flower]

Np

[dry hawk]

Gonna hold this key for guild vault

[willow cradle]

Good lol

[dry hawk]

Just trying to get more gear after work haha

[uneven plaza]

anyone got a macro that automatically swaps between thunderous Roar and Spear?

[willow cradle]

Yes

Gimme a sec I'll be able to fetch it

[uneven plaza]

[dry hawk]

How is arms vs fury in keys?

[willow cradle]

Arms is kinda good NGL

Demolish feels real fun

It's a good change of pace from Slayer

[floral olive]

For me arms not so comfortable

Even in slayer

[dry hawk]

Execute damage is prolly bonkers

[floral olive]

I’m prefer prot for keys
So now learning how to play it

[torpid sand]

k that trink is stupid

[visual rose]

Do we have a consensus on the best talent build for pushing M+? I'm having a lot of trouble but it's possible I just suck. I'm simming at 950k, 615 ilvl and getting outclassed by my buddies every pull pretty much unless my 1.5m cds are up

[dry hawk]

Prot seems to require a lot of damn crit

[floral olive]

More haste, crit is like 10k is okay (without flask)

[willow cradle]

#showtooltip [known:376079] Champion's Spear; [known:384318] Thunderous Roar
/cast [known:376079,@player] Champion's Spear; [known:384318] Thunderous Roar

[dry hawk]

My prot set has like 40% haste

[quiet geyser]

Welcome to fury

[uneven plaza]

Thank ❤️

[visual rose]

I thought we were suppoesd to be good but my ret pally friend is doing 50% more dps with 3 buttons and i'm having issues maintaining enrage, managing rage and dodging shit on the ground

[floral olive]

Oh shit, I like 25% crit, 30% haste

[quiet geyser]

You're good every 1.5mins. Outside of that, you're a pool noodle

[willow cradle]

Np

[visual rose]

That explains never getting into a group

[quiet geyser]

Rets cd is 30 secs, they have it for legit every pull

[quiet geyser]

Ya fury looked really good in keys at start of expansion. Its starting to get gapped by quite a few specs. Like its still fine to play.. but everytime blizz makes a blue post, we seem to be getting a nerf to our AoE, even though our consistent AoE is already terrible only good at burst

[barren coral]

idk if this is normal for fury but sometimes i wait till the pull mobs are at 95% hp and they still swap target and kill me if i pop cds

its really infuriating and i never had this issue on rogue

without using tricks

[visual rose]

is arms playable lol

[mystic fox]

Yes

[quiet geyser]

Warriors have an inherent higher threat modifier. Its quite annoying

[plush flower]

You’re playing with undergeared tanks who can’t generate threat or bad tanks.

[quiet geyser]

You also do get your AoE burst our faster than mostly anyone, that's a lot of initial threat

[floral olive]

Don’t use defensive stance on pull

[barren coral]

https://tenor.com/view/231-gif-25095509

[plush flower]

Use ER and blame the healer when you die anyway

[arctic sinew]

Exactly, that sounds like a healer adapt kind of situation

[upbeat sentinel]

Me when I die to any mechanic in a dungeon: "Why aren't you playing fucking RSham?"

[floral olive]

No no, I’m blaming tank. And now I’m the one so I can blame everyone else

[willow cradle]

More than playable, Arms is pretty aight

[visual rose]

i just blame both

"I could be doing 1.5m dps but i'm being held back"

[plush flower]

Also when I rip threat and have ER I just start moving the mob away so the brainlet tank taunts it lmao

[barren coral]

ER wont even help above +7 because for pulls that have 10+ targets i rip instantly

[plush flower]

But also I haven’t had that problem this week or last since I played with too many bad tanks in previous weeks that I just refuse to pug tanks lmao

[gusty cloak]

meld

[floral olive]

It helped me even in 9, but if tank don’t take it from me like in 5-10sec I have probably die.

[wispy thistle]

use it on the stunned boss on silken court and get crazy crits, I have a champ track and it will crit for like 24 mil

[lilac plinth]

hello

can someone pls put spell reflect WA

[mossy fox]

use this opener sequence:
wait for mobs to be gathered
count to 3
reck ava roar
shadowmeld
bladestorm

[oblique trail]

what if I'm a velf

[mossy fox]

shadowmeld anyway

[wispy thistle]

RIP

[oblique trail]

oh

I'll just spatial rift like 10 meters away

[crisp prism]

ok i'm gonna fireblood and pretend i'm not there

[mossy fox]

if you dont have shadowmeld maybe watch dratnos' weekly vault video while you wait for tank threat

[oblique trail]

I've already watched it though..

[coarse nest]

Real

[noble yew]

do u add meld to macro or nah?

[crisp prism]

do you think 4 min per character is enough for the aggro ?

[coarse nest]

Mobs aggro to just your existence even so probably 5 minutes atleast to be safe

[brittle crow]

can opie be used to open another opie window

can i have branching opie trees

[oblique trail]

I do question sometimes though how I'm able to get aggro simply by using WW even if a tank used an AoE ability first

[floral olive]

Great idea

[coarse nest]

Seriously heroic leap, charge, WW all instantly yoink aggro

So cringe

[crisp prism]

i had that this morning i didnt even engage and i had aggro turns out rogue friend was trolling me

lol

[vagrant cave]

Didnt see this anywhere, is there any window of where you wouldn't hit Bladestorm, if Reck/Avatar are about to come off CD?

[oblique trail]

10~ sec from Avatar being ready you don't use BS

Otherwise just use it, assuming it makes sense to

[plush flower]

Ovinax spiders looking at warriors the instant they spawn

[oblique trail]

If a pack is basically dead already I tend to hold BS

[warm crag]

this is a lie

[oblique trail]

I think you should SHUT UP

[warm crag]

what the fuck is wrong with you????

[vagrant cave]

Ty ty ❤️

[oblique trail]

On my kill pull I didn't die to spiders, but swirlies since I was breaking egg

There is no escape on that fight as a warrior

[plush flower]

I was ripping threat even with tanks taunting and death grip so now I get a bop to make me feel special

[whole wigeon]

I just position myself tf away from spiders when they first spawn, stick myself near parasites for insta shockwave and aoe, died way too many times to tanks not picking up spiders lol

[oblique trail]

Without ever communicating, my holy pala started bopping me and my cowarrior on spider sets

[plush flower]

The other warrior on the other hand

[mossy fox]

is this what happened in our mists run

[oblique trail]

wdym..

[mossy fox]

nothing

[oblique trail]

I've redeemed myself from using AM by accident

Maybe I should in fact just press BS the moment its ready regardless

[clever belfry]

AM thane no WW talents banezi trolling the key???

[oblique trail]

I've never done this!!

Stop spreading lies!!

Your hosen will catch on fire

[clever belfry]

okay mr radiant power after 2 runs

[oblique trail]

It was a deserved drop after wiping to first boss 3 times

they had pity on us

[clever belfry]

it was a very difficult boss

[barren coral]

wtf is AM

anger manage?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[safe juniper]

tried mountain thane in a key with anger management

[barren coral]

i love talent

[safe juniper]

felt like i had something for each pack but ST is a bit behind not that much tho

[barren coral]

hope it becomes meta soon

[oblique trail]

Did you enjoy doing no ST damage

[safe juniper]

maybe 200-300k behind on boss damage

[oblique trail]

That is

not just a bit behind

[safe juniper]

haha

true

BUT overall is like 1.5M

cant remember what the other did

[oblique trail]

The few keys I've used AM in I've not had nearly as good overall as when I just used the normal talents

[safe juniper]

yea AM i think only with MT not Slayer

[oblique trail]

AM in general rn is not a good play

[safe juniper]

desyncs alot on slayer

[oblique trail]

At least until they buff it

RA just gives you way too much ST damage comparitively

[clever belfry]

while also not being bad in aoe...

AM just good on brood cause it lines perfectly

[oblique trail]

First boss Mists moment btw

[mossy fox]

AM gaming should feel nicer for having something each pack (once the patch hits)

[oblique trail]

5.1 mill CB crit

[jovial coral]

hate am

[clever belfry]

CBT

[oblique trail]

KST

Kock & Sack Torture

[clever belfry]

Tortur

is actually a word

[oblique trail]

I know

Was gonna type it

But wanted to mr. worldwide international by typing torture

[safe juniper]

rn i feel so behind from the WW monk

mainly who i do keys with

[pure totem]

same happens to me, been playing with an enchanc friend

[echo lintel]

im hoping arms gear isnt too far off from fury, because this is just infuriating

[oblique trail]

Put on Arms loot spec

Then you'll never loot 1handers

[echo lintel]

and the rest of the gear will be the same if not similar stats?

[pseudo marlin]

whats a good mmo mouse?

[oblique trail]

It's all the same yes

Except you only loot 2handers

Stats dont change between loot specs

It's all static to the item itself

[hardy cargo]

razer naga has been quite good for me

[pseudo marlin]

heard theres issues about durability

but it aint that expensive tbf

[echo lintel]

i like my Glorious

[hardy cargo]

if you buy a trinity yeah theres durability issues

[pseudo marlin]

i think mouse keys would make me faster

[hardy cargo]

having a good mix of mouse keys to do rotation+keyboard helps a lot with wrist pain

[pseudo marlin]

i use alt1-6 / ctrl1-7 and 1-7

for my keybinds

shift1-3

m4/m5 and qerty fghj / zxcvb with ctrl modifiers

freeing up some of that shit would be dope

[rough quiver]

is ilvl more important? or getting a set piece?

[pseudo marlin]

tier is dogshit

so ilvl

what is it like 1.5% increase?

4piece

[oblique trail]

You'd need a quite big ilvl disparity for ilvl to be better than getting the set bonus

Simply just sim yourself in top gear to see

[idle ember]

i can never out dps a equally geared ret pally in m+ am i bad

[rough quiver]

580 boots -> 610 non set boots
or
606 item -> 613 set item

[oblique trail]

An actually good ret will more or less always beat you in keys

[pseudo marlin]

ret pala scales poorly with ilvl

[fallen olive]

Just bought my third one in like 14 years

[pseudo marlin]

as far as i know

or atleast was the case in df

[crisp prism]

quick question , we basically using same build with anger management for ovinax mythic right ?

[oblique trail]

You swap to AM and Uproar

That's it

[crisp prism]

thx

[oblique trail]

Remove 1 point from Armored to get Uproar

[fading sky]

Still cant believe we have to make that kind of choice vs those dk have to make

[plucky ice]

hero vs normal peasant

[night cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oizfHujYsViQqkxzWdugYc

just.. why? xD

ara kara trinket sims to low for me

[slim coral]

Ara Kara is the goated trinket

[night cedar]

Maybe is for my haste?

[slim coral]

Swap your sim to ST

[elder granite]

dog i cannot get rid of this adventurer trinket

[slim coral]

Instead of 5

[night cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m8YKisULRR8WFV7qtf9zFQ

aoe talents btw

[warm crag]

idk ara kara is kinda dear dependent i think

[slim coral]

What item level is the ara Kara trinket

[night cedar]

619

I think i have to much haste

thats the problem

i have like 15k

[warm crag]

possible i wouldnt know

[night cedar]

25%

[warm crag]

throw some diff gear options into top gear maybe

[slim coral]

Well tbh mandate and transmitter are the two BiS

[warm crag]

otherwise just trust sim

[night cedar]

I have transmitter too

[modest condor]

i mean you're doing a 1 minute sim

[night cedar]

619

[slim coral]

Oh yeah

[night cedar]

but is a nightmare play wih it

[slim coral]

Swap the sim to 5 mins

[warm crag]

oh lmao

[warm crag]

all the tasks spawn in the front right of you

[sullen dove]

The aoe one is one minute

Single target was 5

[modest condor]

as for the st sim, that's just a consequence of low gear

[warm crag]

you should be able to learn how to deal with it

[modest condor]

the worse your gear is, the better direct damage effects are

[night cedar]

aoe simm is 1 min 5 targets

st 5 min 1 target

[modest condor]

on an ilvl 630+ sim the sacbrood would most definitely sim better

[slim coral]

Aoe sims aren’t real

Just sum st

Sim

[coarse nest]

Sim ST in cleave build aye

[modest condor]

also fang caps out at 619 while sacbrood is farmable at 626

[warm crag]

another silmarilen lie

[night cedar]

true

[modest condor]

i always lie

[warm crag]

that is how you got yellow man

[slim coral]

Based

[coarse nest]

Moms spaghetti

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-smiling-friends-charlie-charlie-smiling-friends-how-do-i-look-gif-24474201

[warm crag]

good reference

[night cedar]

Well i guess fuck it sims and i will play with egg, fragment and transmitter (i hate it)

[modest condor]

a lot of those gear list things are irrelevant if you don't look at them with the right circumstances

trinket x sims better than trinket y on bloodmallet? yeah but bloodmallet is ilvl 639 and trinket x can go up to a higher ilvl

if your gear isnt the same, your results will be different

[slim coral]

Transmitter isn’t actually that bad

The task are brain dead

[night cedar]

I hate play with the trask

The circle one

[warm crag]

doesnt bloodmallet also assume you're wearing a strength stat stick trinket

[night cedar]

that 1.5 secs for the orb.. zZz

[clever belfry]

it assumes deez

[night cedar]

The jump one and the move to the orb is ok

[modest condor]

as the 2nd trinket yes, to normalise the list

[slim coral]

I mean it’s 15k str tho

[warm crag]

this is very dubious

[night cedar]

Yea is a lot str

[clever belfry]

This ssn is ass for good stat sticks

[coarse nest]

Shimmy right

[clever belfry]

araara is the only humanoid one

[slim coral]

Mandate is op but I gage mine to a guildie

Gave

[warm crag]

noob

[low folio]

feel like nw 3rd boss needs more heavy nerfs

[slim coral]

I’m just ethical

[slim coral]

?

It’s free asf

[clever belfry]

Wdym gave
are u not loot counciling

[coarse nest]

Just save all weapons and 1 shot it

[low folio]

hardest boss in the dungeon pool

[coarse nest]

[slim coral]

Yes

We do rlc

[clever belfry]

so u didn't give it to anyone

but the LC did

[slim coral]

I was given it

[clever belfry]

so u overruled the LC

??

[warm crag]

wait lootcouncil gave you loot and you just handed it off

[coarse nest]

Circumventing the loot council hollyyy

[warm crag]

??

[slim coral]

Yes but it was discussed

Did more maths and what not

[modest condor]

rlc? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLC_circuit

[warm crag]

are you not planning to do kyveza any time soon or

[slim coral]

We on kyveza prog

[warm crag]

and you dont have mandate lmao l bozo get a grip deez nuts

[coarse nest]

Mandate deez

[slim coral]

Well it’s a more deeper analysis but tldr ye

[warm crag]

give us the lore

[slim coral]

I love circuits Pog

[warm crag]

who was mandate more optimal for than the warrior that specs arms and has it as their bis

[slim coral]

Well here’s the short version without writing a wall of text

So we had a lot of good drops, transmitter, the rare queen ring etc so I got 2 pieces given to me the transmitter and mandate but one of the other raiders had a similar sim to where I can use sacbrood and they don’t have a trinket thats as good as mandate like we do where we can. So basically mandate was more a side grade for me atleast from heroic. The mythic one might be way higher but I haven’t bothered simming the mythic one yet

Also it was before ovinax nerfs

We really needed every inch of damage for ovinax pre nerf

[warm crag]

mmm noob

[dapper goblet]

mmm noob x2

[clever belfry]

mmm noob x3

[torpid sand]

mmm noob x4

[vocal igloo]

@edgy widget is odyn's fury bleed not affected by haste? tooltip isnt updating with haste increases

[polar isle]

im really confused i thought crushing blow is always above bloodthirst and bloodbath in our prio list. But looking at some logs i see people using bloodbath into bloodthirst after the initial cooldown opener a lot

[wicked dew]

AOE?

[polar isle]

no in single target

[vocal igloo]

maybe their raging blow didnt reset? so yes crushing blow is available but still on cd so you use bt?

[young swan]

its not

[narrow narwhal]

It's to hedge against bad RNG on RB resets

[polar isle]

right after pull so recklessness into rampage - roar - fury - bladestorm - bloodbath - bloodthirst

[warm crag]

link a log

[polar isle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/M8q6t1LDPAKVGjph#fight=1&type=casts&view=timeline&source=3

[vocal igloo]

how do you know this? does it pandemic?

[coarse nest]

You can’t do back to back like that

[young swan]

its been tested, it does pandemic

[warm crag]

thats unhinged no

[coarse nest]

Unless they sit and wait for the bloodthirst cd?

[wicked dew]

That seems too early for Odyns also

[polar isle]

yeah that was wrong look at the log i linked

[coarse nest]

Ohh probably seeing unhinged

Like spongie said

[warm crag]

go read at what unhinged does and think abt how that would display in a log

[polar isle]

ok nvm i didnt think that would be displayed in the log

[edgy widget]

how do you KNOW tho?!

[warm crag]

ya idk logs have some weird display shenanigans sometimes

[coarse nest]

He’s an intellectual

[edgy widget]

that's one way to put it

[lost saffron]

@warm crag meow

[young swan]

knowledge gets placed in my brain by mathematicals and then i say it when people ask

[wicked dew]

as shown

[edgy widget]

we've met, he's really not

[warm crag]

miau!

[lost saffron]

Meow

[young swan]

meow

definitely NOT an intellectual

[hardy cargo]

[warm crag]

xantaga blue man with clown picture next to their name = mathematical man

[coarse nest]

Intellect stat Yyuge

[oblique trail]

Spongie shut up and go do your s plits

sorry very mean

[coarse nest]

Yours

Plits

[warm crag]

i do not have an alt

[hardy cargo]

quite based

[oblique trail]

explode

[coarse nest]

Wait you don’t have 18 warriors

Smh

[plush flower]

Casual

[polar isle]

ok thanks but you made me curious with your "aoe?" question does it change in aoe @wicked dew

[azure badger]

For the parse on rashan do you want to pad adds or just nuke boss? I've heard the adds don't count for parse.

[violet condor]

after those changes are we gonna go anger manage for everything now?

[narrow narwhal]

Read the wowhead guide

[slim coral]

@edgy widget Mabrito says hello

[coarse nest]

Yeah to spread bleed

[warm crag]

full st for parses

[hardy cargo]

single target to parse

[polar isle]

i thought i did tbh which part?

[coarse nest]

Rashan logs don’t count adds anymore

[warm crag]

but no one will respect you and every competent guild will see that you griefed the raid for a parse

[azure badger]

Ty

[coarse nest]

I shit you not my raid lead told everyone* to go full ST

As fury btw

I’m going back aoe on reclear though because vengeance was getting Eatin alive by add

[warm crag]

go to wclogs discord and tell them that maybe they will see the damage they're doing

[modest condor]

wtf happened to brann, he keeps getting aggro and then running away pulling half the delve

[slim coral]

They made him a tank

[modest condor]

all i need him to do is drop potions on the ground

[slim coral]

He likes to tank tho

[warm crag]

surely u have him in dps spec so he executes enemies

[teal pine]

healer way better imo. dont need his damage anymore

[meager void]

brann AI broke the singularity barrier from all the shitters doing delves

[teal pine]

but he does in fact pull half my pack from me every pull

[meager void]

"Champion, do not stand in that"

[bronze elm]

I'm so confused when we're supposed to use Raging Blow (non empowered), do we do it when we can't cast Rampage, Crushing Blow, BB/BT? And do we whirlwind only when we don't have anything up/rage for anything?

[modest condor]

you try to do a t11 delve with brann dps and tell me how it goes

[plush flower]

“You’ve got ta move” meanwhile he gets slapped by zekvir frontal

[warm crag]

i dont think i will do a t11 delve

[edgy widget]

who?

[balmy shore]

you can go full aoe for adds and still get a decent parse

[slim coral]

Mabrito

Dk wowhead

[whole wigeon]

Recklessness>avatar>roar>rampage>odyns fury>bladestorm>mandate does that sound correct for opener or am I way off?

[slim coral]

Use to write the guides

[balmy shore]

did u read the patch notes? only happens to noobs

[slim coral]

I think it depends on context for the manadate but the bladestorm goes before OF

[modest condor]

im a warrior why do you think i can read

[warm crag]

mandate after opener is full troll

[whole wigeon]

Not according to that which you just linked it doesn't? XD

[warm crag]

send it before pull

or you send it 30s after pull because you are ideally playing treacherous

[slim coral]

This is ST

I was assuming you were asking about aoe

[balmy shore]

touché

[whole wigeon]

Aye I'm talking about ST

[slim coral]

Oh ok then yeah def don’t use mandate mid cds

[whole wigeon]

Howcome it's full troll? Mandate gets a boost from bladestorm overwhelming stacks no?

[warm crag]

yeah but you just dont wanna do that during cds

[slim coral]

You’d have two buffs up

Avatar and reck

[warm crag]

you can go and try figuring out the dps difference from pressing it after your bladestorm

[slim coral]

Would be kinda troll to cast a trinket during that

[oblique trail]

If you don't lose a cast from it, send after CDs

[warm crag]

add a check to the mandate conditional where you want overwhelm stacks is probs enough

[oblique trail]

Assuming you don't have another on-use trinket

[humble plover]

This is when I'd use my mandate, IF I HAD ONE

[dry hawk]

Is this set 1800?

[whole wigeon]

So mandate before cds/charge etc?

[humble plover]

Yar

[whole wigeon]

It's fun hitting 18million mandates damnit

[dry hawk]

Ty

[oblique trail]

You are not hitting 18 mill mandates unless the target is nearly dead

[warm crag]

i exclusively hit 18 mill mandates

(shield boss in stonevault)

[plush flower]

Spongie is so cool

[whole wigeon]

Aye I more meant I've always been holding it for after cds lmao guess I've just been gimping myself

[plush flower]

I wanna be like spongie

[warm crag]

do you

[elder granite]

is dungeon slice accurate for us? trying to see if a 613 mark sims higher than a 593 shard

[plush flower]

No I don’t have a mandate

[oblique trail]

You're only really gimping yourself if you use it mid CDs

[plush flower]

[sullen dove]

mad queens mandate kinda nice for sniping affix

[oblique trail]

Before CDs/after if you have a 2nd on-use is fine

[sullen dove]

if under half hp > use trinket > deadge

[oblique trail]

Short fights as I mentioned as well you'd want to figure out if it's possible to send before or after CDs and not lose casts

[whole wigeon]

Aye which is why I'm here asking the question :> I'm a v average player so it's always good to seek advice from more knowledgeable chaps

[oblique trail]

Though this is really only a Norm/HC question, or lowish keys, whether it'd be a short fight or not

[bronze elm]

So that means only Raging Blow ABOVE 100 rage? So weird, doesn't seem like top warrs on logs adhere to this, but I guess I'm reading it wrong then.. Do you just whirlwind even if you have (only) Raging Blow up, to get above 100 rage / wait for your other attacks to come off cd?

[oblique trail]

Honestly just ignore the opportunist line

[sullen dove]

<100 means less than 100

[warm crag]

x<100 is not above 100 ye

[edgy widget]

< and > are different symbols

[meager void]

lol

[clever belfry]

not if i look at them through a mirror

[sullen dove]

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/forward-pass-nrl-one-eyed-gif-13887139

[meager void]

use RB if you dont have rage for Ramp. Thats what that line means.

[slim coral]

Basically just if you are below 100 rage

[edgy widget]

if you looked at both through a mirror they would still appear different...

[clever belfry]

but im selectively looking at one through a mirror

as it is behind a corner

i do not make the rules

[sullen dove]