fury

[modest condor]

ah i must have done it before it got nerfed then

[warm crag]

doesnt change check guides

[pearl glacier]

As a warrior main since release ,I can say warrior sucks harder on tww than df

[cold silo]

same as before

[warm crag]

???????????????

[bitter palm]

we sucked in df?

[tulip swallow]

Things were pretty grim in VOTI

[pearl glacier]

Yes bro and you suck tww as well

[tulip swallow]

until they put through several 3% aura buffs

[warm crag]

we suck so much (2 warriors on every prog fight)

[magic mortar]

i’m going to need more popcorn for this chat right now lol

[hard widget]

Yeah idk man people have no clue about the raid and warrior and what state we're in

Im sorry to say

[chrome plover]

this made was raid for fury and fury still bangs it out

[tulip swallow]

The raid is designed to be outscaled by the weekly buff anyway

[eager relic]

Just because adds gotta die doesnt mean warrior good

[modest condor]

that wasnt voti

[pearl glacier]

I finish every season on my warrior on 3500 ish

[chrome plover]

it literally does

[oblique trail]

xd?

[pearl glacier]

Stfu

[warm crag]

xd?

[modest condor]

voti we started off strong but got outbuffed by other classes, then with 0.5 we got like an 8% buff or something

[pearl glacier]

Warrior sucks accept the fact

[eager relic]

Didnt Max even say he probably shouldnt have brought 2 fury?

[glad plover]

We are used for very specific mechanic same as many specs and classes in the past, does not excuse us being nerfed to the ground with already weak ST performance.

[oblique trail]

Yeah sucks very badly (we are really good in raid)

[modest condor]

yeah we're good in raid for a very specific thing, but the consequence of that is that we're just getting gutted in m+

[chrome plover]

also arms kinda owns on the bosses fury doesnt

[hard widget]

Like i said before, people have no clue what they're sandbagging about. Yes we're not the best on ST but we're giga chilling in raid

[hard lily]

No he said if they had Trill they would've sat one for WW with one of the best players in the game lol

[chrome plover]

dps warrior is in a great spot for raid for sure

[north edge]

Raid is dog content anyways, 6 hours of effort a week at max

Meanwhile spending 20+ hours a week in keys sitting in lfg

[hard widget]

The only place where we really suck is M+ right now

[pearl glacier]

You are usesless in mythic +

[tulip swallow]

It's a fight design issue that they're in too deep to correct

M+ is a bigger part of the game than raid is tbh

[hard widget]

And we werent talking about m+ so this comment is pointless

[eager relic]

I couldve sworn he said he wouldve replaced one but they already had them geared and stuff so it wouldnt have been ideal

[pearl glacier]

Who give a fk about raid since they implemented upgrade to hc items?

[eager thorn]

not correct at all

[glad plover]

Exactly, every aspect of our spec, excluding sheer AOE burst, is far bellow average, with incoming nerfs to our AOE, and seemingly lack of any meaningful buffs to ST (and indirectly our cleave) we are about to reach super bad place.

[north edge]

I mean Riku also died every pull like 3 times

Might be a player thing too

[wary fjord]

Man, one of these days they gonna give fury an aoe focused tier set, and then we'll show them in m+

[eager thorn]

fury not being meta doesnt mean we're useless

[wary fjord]

I hope

[near wing]

Why is this the case. Why does the dot get clipped?

[oblique trail]

HC items can become 626, Mythic items can be 639, raid drops specific items you can't get anywhere else, so you want to raid Mythic if you want those items

[left perch]

fury bad arm bad go be fdk

[oblique trail]

I explained this messages below

[hard widget]

And we will still be great in raid 🙂

[oblique trail]

#fury message

[wary fjord]

We can always want more

[tulip swallow]

Will that greatness be needed by the time most guilds actually get to M ansurek though

[wary fjord]

[tulip swallow]

and the weekly buff is juicing everyone to hell and back

[wary fjord]

I want to be best in raid

And m+, cause I'm greedy

[eager relic]

Do you guys only measure Fury's standing by raid performance?

[warm crag]

ye

[magic mortar]

I’m only here so I don’t get fined.

[oblique trail]

No, but it's incredibly good right now in raid so it's something that's worth focusing on

[sullen dove]

do u only measure fury's standing by m+ performance

[oblique trail]

Because people like to ignore it

[tulip swallow]

Raid performance is the only thing blizzard cares about

[oblique trail]

And only think about M+

[hard widget]

OMG FURY SO OP

[sullen dove]

(still top 6 dps in m+)

[eager relic]

Why would you focus on either instead of the overall performance in all content?

[hard widget]

BUFF BM HUNTER

[hard lily]

I only measure fury by if it's fun and can dual wield 2h and bladestorm

[pearl glacier]

Still sucks in m+

[magic mortar]

bring back 1h fury you cowards

[oblique trail]

But like

[warm crag]

it is back fool

go and play it immediately

[oblique trail]

Rn Fury is still able to do really good damage in keys

[hard widget]

And once again commenting on m+ when we're talking about raid

[oblique trail]

Or am I just not playing the same spec as everyone else?

[hard lily]

I can't disagree in theory but I'll never play smf

[tulip swallow]

We do on par damage in keys and we're getting nerfed

[modest condor]

dagger smf

[oblique trail]

Sure we get beat by some specs, but you're able to beat the vast majority of them

[sullen dove]

and once again just being wrong asf as well

[magic mortar]

No I mean drop smf and make fury 1h only again like back in the ooooold days lol

[hard widget]

No we're just actually bad in m+

[plush flower]

we? lmao

[sullen dove]

"waaaaaaah 5 other specs are better than fury daddy blizzard do sometihng!!!i have to be the best!!!"

[magic mortar]

all 1h, all the time.

[hard widget]

People are coping by saying we're good

[glad plover]

This season, what about next? What about M+, If your main concern is Raid, that is understandable, but in my opinion M+ became as important piece of end game content. And we are not very good at it at the moment, and will get increasingly worse with next patch.

[oblique trail]

Mate you got beat by an int dagger assa rogue

[left perch]

link the deaths chart now

[sullen dove]

krill issue

[clever belfry]

bälle

[hard widget]

Ur making it sound like fury has a chance against assa rogue

[warm crag]

int dagger assa rogue that picked socket instead of mythic tier

[pearl glacier]

That dps ,is before Warcraft logs remove ads from counting on logs

[modest condor]

god i love memeing zerocool

what covenant does assa rogue play?

[warm crag]

venthyr

[hard widget]

Bro what are u talking about

[oblique trail]

I know Assa is better than Fury assuming they actually have hands, and as I said above, we get beat by some specs

[clever belfry]

blast more burst and buddy

[hard widget]

Some?

[thorny shoal]

i was watching one of maximums older videos where he did ban requests and one persons unban request was zerocool

[north edge]

The big issue is we’re just dog compared to some melee and thrrefore the meta considers us shit

[oblique trail]

I genuinely think you're getting skill issued if you get beat by most specs lol

[hard widget]

Im sure its a skill issue yea

[north edge]

And we sit in lfg not getting invites

[warm crag]

who's we?

speak for yourself lmao

[modest condor]

yeah, it's where the assa rogue covenant line comes from

[eager thorn]

this has so much more to do than class or spec

[eager relic]

I think because you're more skillfull than most you assume the spec is better than most specs.

[sullen dove]

(it is)

[hard widget]

Nah banezi is just coping right now

[clever belfry]

ok but u can say that

for any spec

?

what

[hard widget]

Or he's playing with casuals

[north edge]

I don’t pick fury warriors to keys either

[tulip swallow]

We're like dead in the middle of melee specs and none of the ones above us are getting nerfed

[thorny shoal]

oh wasn't aware that was the case

[north edge]

Why do that when you can get another Fdk?

[magic mortar]

i wouldnt even pick myself, i die too much. trash warrior.

[eager thorn]

i am completely fine getting into 9/10s as fury

[clever belfry]

sorry bro

[oblique trail]

Like I'm not pushing 12s and 13s because who cares even at this point, but I legit have only been beat by FDKs, Ret Palas, Enhance shamans and Assa rogues

[hard widget]

Yeah my point exactly

Who cares about ur performance in a +9 as fury

[oblique trail]

Wdym your point

[hard widget]

Where everything dies in 2 globals

[eager relic]

No but his evidence that Fury is decent in M+ is that he can beat most other specs. When thats not very objective at all

[oblique trail]

I'm doing 11s still xd?

[modest condor]

ive been beaten by just about every spec but i'm both bad and undergeared

[sullen dove]

who cares about your performance in a +12 when everyone will have 15 more ilvls in a month

[eager thorn]

it is decent in m+ though?

[eager relic]

By what metric

[north edge]

99% of the population is doing keys less than 12

[eager thorn]

you can only look at the better players performances when deeming a class strong or weak

[oblique trail]

How is that not objective

[sullen dove]

how do you determine how objective that is

[eager thorn]

looking at some 20 parse andy isnt gonna show you the value of the spec

[oblique trail]

If you get beat by most classes as Fury rn in M+ you are just bad at the spec

[sullen dove]

"frost dk the best dps"

"why"

[oblique trail]

I don't know how else to tell you

[sullen dove]

"cuz it beats other specs"

[cerulean gyro]

this

[hard widget]

Guess im bad at the spec hmm?

[sullen dove]

lmao

[eager thorn]

yes you are

[sullen dove]

yes

[eager thorn]

noob jeventes

[magic mortar]

guys imma need someone to post a video to summarize this chat and tell me how to feel.

[glad plover]

Same, problem is all specs you pointed out not only beat us in damage, but also in utility they bring, if warrior is to be desirable for M+ it needs to have damage(with our current utility kit). SImply put why would you bring warrior if ret is also in que or ench.

[pearl glacier]

We are not in legion to care only about dps my friend

[warm crag]

jeventes noob tv

[hard widget]

Yep

Time to reroll

I suck

[clever belfry]

🅱️e🅱️en🅱️es

[wary fjord]

Unless their 20 parse is higher damage than your like 90 parse

[warm crag]

bebenbes

[modest condor]

an🅱️a

[runic cypress]

tfw got 95 ansurek parse

Started from the bottom now we're here

[oblique trail]

Genuinely yes I think you are

[hard widget]

🙂

[clever belfry]

ok stop padding

[warm crag]

step 1 have co warrior die

[warm crag]

step 2 have another padder die

[tidal kindle]

Okay bros why are you playing aoe on st fight

[clever belfry]

true

[warm crag]

i will spear ansurek

[clever belfry]

just immune all sets!!!

[runic cypress]

I'm the only paddwr

[wary fjord]

Step 3 profit

[hard widget]

Guess linc is also bad at the spec right @oblique trail ?

[clever belfry]

let me play spear rash

[tidal kindle]

Spear that GYATT

[clever belfry]

(half of the top100 fury on rash are spear)

[eager thorn]

i went mt build on sikran today and got a 99 :)

[hard widget]

Since he's saying the same

[clever belfry]

77777

[runic cypress]

Got 38% web DMG on that parse

[cerulean gyro]

Doesn't warcraftlogs and such remove padding?

[eager thorn]

fuck spear we love tr

[covert blaze]

relatable

[clever belfry]

worse than revv = bad

[oblique trail]

Mate you are saying you get beat by most specs in M+ and get rolled

[warm crag]

i dont think it is

[oblique trail]

I can NOT say I've had this experience outside of a few specs

Which I mentioned

From doing 11s myself

[hard widget]

Bro play with some actual good players

[hard widget]

And u'll see

[clever belfry]

🪞

[oblique trail]

Maybe play the spec better xd?

[warm crag]

🪞

[warm crag]

@covert blaze king dm

[eager relic]

See how its not objective? Its just personal experience

[covert blaze]

ok youre right people didnt troll in mine

[sullen dove]

if youre gettin beat by like a feral druid u needa check some shit

[warm crag]

simply purchase the r1

[clever belfry]

meowmeow

[sullen dove]

mrow

[pearl glacier]

To get carry by other classes on cc and others utility ?

[warm crag]

google how to dps in warcraft

[oblique trail]

Bro if you're shit at the spec and then say the spec is bad, then you're basing it all based on your personal experience

[clever belfry]

guys im so good!!!!

wtf!!!!

[slim coral]

Pog

Anda the Goat

[eager relic]

and same vice versa.

[tidal kindle]

If all you care about is overall in m+, then fury is shit in your eyes cuz we're not the big 4

[runic cypress]

Guys stop fighting we need to work together this is World of Friendscraft not Warcraft

[glad plover]

As Critcake said "We are all gansta until we meet Ret that knows to press buttons".

[sullen dove]

what if every frost dk ive played with has done less damage than me

fdks are bad

[sullen dove]

that is my truth

[clever belfry]

get good or?

[sullen dove]

you cant convince me otherwise

frost is DOGSHITTTT

[tidal kindle]

If you care about completing the key then fury (currently) is pretty sick in m+

[slim coral]

We're all gansta until we meet a frost dk

it's joever from there

[oblique trail]

Right so you base how good a spec is, with how really bad people perform with the spec?

This is a very good metric I think

[eager relic]

How did you draw that conclusion from what ive said lol

[hard widget]

Banezi is just yapping

[clever belfry]

goku pfp

[hard widget]

He's the best m+ warrior here and gaps everyone

[oblique trail]

Because apparently if I'm good at the spec and it's not a good metric to how good a spec is, then what would be?

[warm crag]

maybe you are just cooked

[slim coral]

Mr Garms what should I think if all I care about is pushing the highest keys

[runic cypress]

Guys please be polite this is a Christian server

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[clever belfry]

7

[oblique trail]

Should I also start posting SR tiktoks from Ataldazar then I'll prove how good I am?

[clever belfry]

🎰

[sullen dove]

7

[clever belfry]

me when i kill mobs that die in 5s anyway

[eager relic]

I mean the most objective would be playing with people who are also able to play their specs at the fullest potential. But no one is perfect

[tidal kindle]

Fury played good in coordinated group is pretty good

[warm crag]

i must reflect this instead of saving it for something actually important

[tidal kindle]

Its not fdk / mage / aug levels of godhood

Its just under

[glad plover]

Well if we use scientific method, you would need sample of top 100 players in the spac A, compared to top 100 players from the spec B.

[sullen dove]

die aug

kill aug

no aug

aug sucks

[oblique trail]

But the thing is I'm being told that Fury is really bad, and gets beat by most specs

[warm crag]

spac

[slim coral]

[sullen dove]

mickey mouse spec remove all its defensives

[clever belfry]

idk yall are all acting like this is the first time youre seeing a non top meta spec being worse than top meta?

[hard widget]

I make content about the game? Apparently u got issues with that

[clever belfry]

get a grip mayhaps

[oblique trail]

But are you telling me that you've then been playing with many people from those specs, who are also really good at them?

[eager relic]

Yes and I didnt say his view was valid/objective either.

[sullen dove]

if it didnt bring like +30% extra hp for the entire group no one would care about aug

[oblique trail]

And then also proceed to be gapped by them all

[wicked moat]

Doesnt ret have autopressing buttons now

[eager relic]

I simply asked how you guys percieve whether Fury is good or not

[wicked moat]

and just divine storming

[inner harbor]

ayoo anyone using the transmitter

[eager relic]

Cuz people were only talking about raid performance

[clever belfry]

mayhaps

[eager relic]

which didnt make sense to me

[warm crag]

mayhaps

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

I perceive it by being good by how good it performs in raid, and in M+

[north edge]

I bound my Devine storm to hold to repeat on a mouse macro

[sullen dove]

mayhaps

[lusty jungle]

ayooo im tired of using technology

[inner harbor]

do you send it before you open or while you sending

[north edge]

And just hold it down

[clever belfry]

before

[inner harbor]

type shit

[oblique trail]

In raid it's really good, in M+ it's still good but gets beat by some specs, and I have yet to witness being beat by most specs which some claim it does

[clever belfry]

log off king

[north edge]

While pressing blade of justice/judgrment

[clever belfry]

i get beat by most specs (i only play with the top3 specs)

[slim coral]

There is not really a simple answer to that besides logs and then doing keys and seeing how it compares

[north edge]

And end up with giga damage

[wicked moat]

dont say that in game chat tho

[tidal kindle]

Fury has strong CDs for filler packs in m+, decent control, and strong survivability w/o immunities

Youll get rolled by mage / enh / dk / boomie etc during their cds

But you have very good supplementary damage every other pack

[wicked moat]

its against tos

[sullen dove]

[slim coral]

But overall damage isn't always everything

[warm crag]

i think they should actually

[clever belfry]

wrong

[tidal kindle]

You have solid ST damage

In your m+ setup

[glad plover]

Does it perform good tho? Logs of last 2 weeks, suggest otherwise, we are below average in general, sure we are good on half of the raid, but fights we are bad at, we are really bad at.

[warm crag]

wrong have you seen sikran

[slim coral]

Sometimes Prio damage is very important so some specs can be brought for that

[warm crag]

(real argument)

[sullen dove]

yea if youre end of dungeon screenshot damage is lower than another spec then thats the only way to confirm the other spec is better

[tidal kindle]

So you do everything "good" but nothing "great"

[oblique trail]

I am playing the raid

[sullen dove]

qrva was 2% above critcake in a details screenshot

[tidal kindle]

Bitch read all that I typed before yap

[oblique trail]

And I'm performing really well

[tidal kindle]

[sullen dove]

its all been downhill from there

[oblique trail]

Compared to other really good players of other specs

And I do my job really well, for which I'm brought for

[warm crag]

you realize that im 100% actually making this argument not mocking everyone else that is using the same argument

[oblique trail]

Which is adds as Fury, or boss damage as Arms

[tidal kindle]

I can never tell with you spongeman

[slim coral]

It does feel bad as fury doing like 0 boss damage tho

[clever belfry]

garmsussy

[tidal kindle]

It's like I'm speaking to myself

[warm crag]

i am usually not stupid

[slim coral]

hope they buff it at some point

[tidal kindle]

[clever belfry]

or garmussy

i think garmussy

[sullen dove]

in raid or m+

[tidal kindle]

Gussarmy

[slim coral]

in raid

[oblique trail]

If you look at Fury in raid and say "look at our boss damage and it's so shit, so Fury is shit in raid" then you're just stupid

[sullen dove]

i feel like nobody comes close to me in m+ when i use all my cds on a boss

[clever belfry]

ure not an army

[sullen dove]

yea raid mid

[slim coral]

in m+ I think it's fine

[clever belfry]

sry king

[warm crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/887041391308455958/1037427847968600084/insanelyhardrotation2.gif

[sullen dove]

last time warr was good

[slim coral]

I think that stims more from talent builds tho

[sullen dove]

bring me back to df prepatch

[north edge]

???? Arcane mage, FDK???

[clever belfry]

actual just 7

idk

[warm crag]

last time i will send a ballistic missile to your doorstep

[clever belfry]

that has to be your worst take yet

[sullen dove]

wym dev evoker warrior build went hard

spam conde i mean disintegrate

[warm crag]

i must play legs spec

[clever belfry]

wtf warrior useles?????

no way!!!!

[eager relic]

Yeah I agree that the answer isnt simple. I just see everyone taking a definitive stance on either side based off of different things.

[tidal kindle]

You'll still get rolled by ST specs in their CDs

Like frost

[warm crag]

i mean people counter with the sikran logs ye im not even kidding

[sullen dove]

92parsing mage 15% above 98 parsing fury ITS OVER

[tidal kindle]

Arcane

[sullen dove]

WRAP IT UP

[clever belfry]

certainly not cause i was killing adds on rash!

[sullen dove]

[clever belfry]

farmed noob magus!!!!

[sullen dove]

holy toledo!

[north edge]

56% parsing Hunter right next to you too

[tidal kindle]

Whomst doing sikran in m+ setup though

[warm crag]

idk king you tell me

[tidal kindle]

Theyre strawmanning bigly

[clever belfry]

average fury warrior player

tbh

[warm crag]

you are made of straw = ad hominem

[clever belfry]

straw fallacy

[oblique trail]

Holy moly look how bad arcane is!!

[tidal kindle]

Strawllacy

[oblique trail]

Fuck!!

[warm crag]

you are a bitch fallacy

[tidal kindle]

Astrawlis?

[oblique trail]

Arms at the top with Fury right under!!

[clever belfry]

arms or legs

[warm crag]

did you see the NIP match the casters were dying to in cs

i need to find it

[sullen dove]

leg singular

[clever belfry]

man i hate legs spec being dead..

[tidal kindle]

[warm crag]

im dming you

[sullen dove]

did u guys know u can reflect the beam on p2 ansurek

kinda pog

[eager relic]

Which beam

[oblique trail]

Yes and it does damage back

[sullen dove]

the only beam in p2

the ones the adds do

[eager relic]

like the one from the mob on the playform?

[sullen dove]

big damage

ye

[oblique trail]

The beam from the expeller

[glad plover]

I never said that, I understand why our overall boss damage is low, I just dont agree that we can just wave low boss damage even on single target fights as product of "uptime issue", many class have uptime issues yet they still preform admirably in all look at DK for example good at multitarget fights, even better then fury on majority, and good in ST fights, a lot better then fury in general. Fury should have less uptime issues compared to DK, again if I am not missing some changes to DK as a whole.

[eager relic]

This fucking beam?

[sullen dove]

uh..

[eager relic]

That killed me last night

[sullen dove]

thats a swirly

from the tank mob

or that was the actual tank hit

i think fragments are called different

[hardy cargo]

thats aggro

[sullen dove]

yea you literally just got walloped by tank add

[eager relic]

o

[tidal kindle]

Fury current designs role is blowing up prio adds

Caters to raid

Doesnt exost in m+

[sullen dove]

exost

https://tenor.com/view/icant-flamby-bttv-i-cannot-lol-gif-24977725

[hardy cargo]

soon u will not exost...

[sullen dove]

...

[trail bane]

625 warrior vs 614 paladin in a +7

nerf us please

[tidal kindle]

And yet the feedback seemingly received is fury shouldnt do that either so it appears to be the case where is blizz nuking that one role down too

[oblique trail]

I never said anything about uptime personally, but what we do in raid is killing adds asap which Frost does NOT do, and if you look at Ovinax add damage we evaporate parasites compared to anyone else, the same as Rashanan adds

[modest condor]

love it when i tell people they dont need to tip for the craft and they still add 15k

thanks for the gold

[eager relic]

Yeah Fury is good at add killing but it seems that Blizzard wants to change that

I dont understand

[oblique trail]

I think Fury's ST could be in a better spot yes, but I'm not allergic to swapping spec to one better suited for ST if I have to

[clever belfry]

mayhaps press ur buttons

[random raptor]

had someone give me 50k for a 636 craft and I got 4 sanc alloy + 3 charged

[modest condor]

[eager relic]

I personally am allergic

Fury only

[sullen dove]

there seems to be a blue line under that pink bar

hmm

peculiar

[tidal kindle]

Its an unhealthy role to have from a design pov, I'll agree with that

Though it seems lately that blizz clueless as to how address that issue and fix it instead of just kneecapping it

[sullen dove]

i thought blue was supposed to be at the top of the meters

[eager relic]

If my guild tells me to swap to arms I will be benched lol

[clever belfry]

why

[trail bane]

But thats not an argument to why the nerfs are fine.

Fire and Arcane are two extremely strong specs in both aoe and single target, but frost is getting buffed anyway.

MM is decent at aoe and BM is one of the strongest ST specs, but BM is getting their cleave buffed.

[warm crag]

why do you need to be told what spec to play

[clever belfry]

u just press MS bro

[eager relic]

Cuz I dont play arms

[clever belfry]

okay then get better

[trail bane]

You cant say the fury nerfs are fine because arms exists, because that argument isnt being applied to any other class

[hardy cargo]

dont even wanna try to give arms a shot?

[tidal kindle]

These are all sustained profiles

[oblique trail]

When have I ever said nerfs are fine lmao

[clever belfry]

its been applied to warlock

for 15yrs

?

[warm crag]

what are you on about

[eager relic]

Ive played arms in the past but my class fantasy for warrior has always been 2 2hs

[tidal kindle]

There isnt a spec that does aoe burst as easily and quickly as fury

[eager relic]

Rather just play another game if I cant be fury

[tidal kindle]

2 globals

[trail bane]

im on responding to people saying the fury nerfs are fine bacause we can just swap to arms for st

[hard widget]

Yeah to fall off a cliff when those 2 buttons run out

[tidal kindle]

You can make arguments for that to be changed, if they improve the sudtained portion

[warm crag]

yeah i know that but you just said something ridiculous and are acting as if its the most normal thing

[tidal kindle]

So far they're (devs) only doing the former instead of also the latter

[trail bane]

whats ridiculous about it

[hardy cargo]

very few ppl are saying that

very

if any, ive personally seen none

[warm crag]

every specs nerfs are being viewed from a scope that it has access to 1-2 other dps specs

[dusty cove]

So we are now below Aug on boss damage? Nice

[trail bane]

No, and blizzard explicitly doesnt want people to feel forced to change spec.

[modest condor]

reminder that they removed IP from AM cdr for arms without adding compensation for the dps loss in dragonflight

[sullen dove]

unless youre mage

[eager relic]

Do you agree with that way of game design?

[sullen dove]

all 3 dps specs are good

take it or leave it

[tidal kindle]

Warrior only issue

[warm crag]

ye sure not every spec should do the exact same thing and its good that i have access to two different specs that do two different niches

[glad plover]

And we are good for that particular job, I agree, and if main goal is to be in raid, I think we are safe and secure this season, issue is that state fury is now, really needs to be looked at from multiple directions, for all we know next tier can be very ST focused, as they often are after AOE focused tier. There is also issue of M+ higher keys go, less and less fury is beneficial to the group because killing adds fast becomes less of a thing, starting from M+10 even. I agree that we are good at he moment, I just think low ST, and abysmal damage outside of CDs is indicative to very serios issues in the future, I spoke about this a lot even in DF season 3.

[hardy cargo]

didnt they give like a slight op buff and say it was compensation like way later? or am i trippin

[eager relic]

Im sure Blizzard realizes that a lot of people only want to play a class for one specific spec. Why balance the game like that? Forcing people to switch?

[warm crag]

both specs are good enough at low level content to do literally everything and low tier prog and if i want to optimize for higher end progression i press n and press arms or fury based on fight

[inner shadow]

diff between multi target and full aoe?

is full aoe when 4+ targets?

[warm crag]

im sorry but you are not playing at a level where nerfs and buffs matter if you are onetricking a single spec

[wheat estuary]

also raid shouldnt have the exact same design for every fight

[inner shadow]

and multi sub 4 targets?

[trail bane]

Yea no class should have two specs that are good at the same thing. Glad to hear arcane or fire nerfs are already on the PTR. OH WAIT.

[wheat estuary]

literally except for the couple ST fights, every other fight is boss + interval adds

[eager relic]

Huh? Nerfs and buffs matter at all levels. Just for how the class feels to play

[clever belfry]

u do not feel

a 3%

[warm crag]

not really you cannot tell me you felt the 3% nerf

[random raptor]

Should I be simming myself with shorter windows as we're so burst focused now?

[hard widget]

If u dont play ur class optimally u wont feel it

[warm crag]

of and bladestorm nerf sure but you're still the best at what those two spells do

[eager relic]

Ofc not. But when its 3% + 3% + 3%

[oblique trail]

Ok but next season is completely outside of the scope of the current one, where many things can happen from now till then, so that's a bit of a moot point. As for M+ performance, I genuinely don't think there's too much of an issue right now for us in key levels from +11s and below. I haven't done +12s and up because they're just a bit of a waste of time rn unless you literally only live and breathe m+. As for our ST? Have you done any keys recently and compared your boss damage to others in keys or what, because our M+ ST is really not bad

[trail bane]

Man they really need to nerf DK, they cant have 2 specs that are good at the same thing. Which is why it makes perfect sense that fury is getting their single target dps nerfed. We are add nukers.

But we arent even nr1 on that anymore.

[clever belfry]

(fury st in m+ spec is good compared to most other specs ST in m+ spec :3)

[oblique trail]

We give up nothing to go AoE, so our ST stays relatively good while others will have to give up a lot for their M+ setup

[warm crag]

there was one 3% nerf and a 0.6-1.5% nerf we dont have to lie

[sullen dove]

yea but ander not incorrect that the amount of st they give up to do the same st as us anyway

[eager relic]

It was an example. I wasnt talking about Fury currently

[sullen dove]

just higher ceiling to fall down from

[clever belfry]

n = 8

[hard widget]

In aoe its been more than this

[clever belfry]

sick

[trail bane]

N =125 on frost dk

[sullen dove]

big n fan

[clever belfry]

fight is BUILT for fdk 🤷‍♂️

[dusty cove]

does suck to see more nerfs though, when other specs are getting their lesser used hero talents buffed, they are just nerfing our good one instead. When we are already the worst ST class

[tidal kindle]

Okay but dk was made for broodtwister, or vice versa

[clever belfry]

just like rash is built for us

[sullen dove]

was*

[warm crag]

oh sorry my bad 2.3% and 3% which is still not three consecutive 3% nerfs

[trail bane]

So what fight was fury "made for" ?

[clever belfry]

but rash is griefed on logs

👍

[warm crag]

can you cherrypick harder or

[hard widget]

I think he's referring to the target cap nerf coming in 11.0.5

[clever belfry]

rash.

[trail bane]

i can try, what do you want me to explain to you?

[warm crag]

which isnt live so why are we mentioning it as a nerf that is currently active

[sullen dove]

ansurek

[eager relic]

No. I just said it was a random arbitrary example. I was not talking about anything current

[hard widget]

Idk ask him xd

[warm crag]

explain to me how a sample size of 8 means the data point you are showing me is slightly questionable

[trail bane]

Because we can kill the webs or?

Ill probably show you frost dk on top of mythic ansurek when people start public logging that.

[sullen dove]

and gloom hatchlings

[clever belfry]

you will not

no

[warm crag]

fury is there for p3 or you immune the webs in p1

[trail bane]

Explain to me how a sample size of 8 is focused on, but the sample size of 125 is being ignored.

[clever belfry]

unless u bring 4 furys to snipe each others dammie like a true king

[clever belfry]

cause you deliberately put "two specs"

when one of them can be discarded

due to useless amounts of data

[sullen dove]

even still n = 8 fury is the third best spec on the fight lol

[cedar edge]

tha prophet

[sullen dove]

just yea both dks prolly shouldnt be the top

[warm crag]

no you misunderstand

theres 132 fury logs and 125 frost logs

theres 8 unholy logs

[sullen dove]

oh unholy

yea who cares

spam epidemic

or something

[tidal kindle]

Actually that's possible because that's likely to be so deep into the tier with enough nerfs that most of the good warriors end up swapping arms

[trail bane]

yea and you cant compare frost dk and fury because unholy only has 8 logs

Makes sense

[sullen dove]

yippee

[clever belfry]

still enough shit to snipe p3

[warm crag]

do you have reading comprehension skills or why are you saying this

[clever belfry]

that even dogass players win vs fdk

[tidal kindle]

Yah I think its unlikely, but possible

[trail bane]

i am litterally just repeating what you are saying

[warm crag]

reply with the discord reply feature to the message where i said that we should disregard frost dk performance on ovinax because unholy has a sample size of 8 logs

[sullen dove]

wait 5000 hits of festering wound for unholy on ovinax

[trail bane]

this one

[sullen dove]

what did they do to that spec

isnt festering where you manually pop a rune?

[clever belfry]

thats just

wounds

[sullen dove]

or is it like bursting too

[clever belfry]

?

[warm crag]

mm close! i am trying to point out the unholy sample size not saying that we should ignore the entire thing

[sullen dove]

thats not the thing when you scourge strike and it pops a wound?

[hardy cargo]

u put dot on target, that dot auto spreads. you press epidemic and every mob living bombs

[trail bane]

and i showed you a post with frost dk and fury in it as well, but you completely ignored that and foucsed on the unholy dk

[unborn notch]

FURY IS SAVED 🙏

[clever belfry]

bro

press the arrow

[sullen dove]

bursting yea

[warm crag]

ah i understand your point was just stupid nvm

[sullen dove]

i said that

[trail bane]

you are the stupid one

[warm crag]

frost blows up the boss and the crabs fury blows up the parasites

frost doesnt do what fury does on that fight lol

[unborn notch]

FURY IS SAVED 🙏

[clever belfry]

i am the worm king

[warm crag]

king wormer

[sullen dove]

all hail worm king

[trail bane]

Parasite dmg from a random frost dk log

[sullen dove]

🪱 👑 🙇‍♂️

[trail bane]

Yea they are real shit at killing parasites

[eager thorn]

FURY IS SAVED 🙏

[clever belfry]

sir fury has been hit by a 4th buff

[hollow bloom]

I'm bored, just did this meme

[sullen dove]

magnificent meme brother

[eager thorn]

reminds me of the ulduar dps blood dk meme

[clever belfry]

only 20% diff 👍

[eager thorn]

bloodwoims

[unborn notch]

Love u mudslap

[warm crag]

mmm lets check out MY cherrypicked log

What the fuck!!!!!!!!!!

[eager thorn]

stay away from me

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail noob?=

[hollow bloom]

[oblique trail]

STOP

[trail bane]

I didnt cherrypick, it was litterally the first one i opened up

[storm birch]

why are we rejoicing

[oblique trail]

I at least can loot valorstones from Zekvir tier ? you noober

[warm crag]

yeah i also opened up the #1 fury log what is your point

[unborn notch]

Fucked up man

[clever belfry]

wtf my dks are noobs too!!!!

[sullen dove]

AUG EVOKER ABOVE FROST DK??

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[clever belfry]

zaganndk

[warm crag]

buff aug

[clever belfry]

was 3 days old bro

he was not having a good time

[sullen dove]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT

[warm crag]

fury needs to be nerfed !

#1 parasite damage

[hardy cargo]

damn bro was born in the trenches

[forest owl]

my guild has no frost dk and im the only warrior and we are about to start brood prog

[warm crag]

if you dont get r1 i will scream

[clever belfry]

time to r1

[hardy cargo]

are we still playing AM on that boss? I thin kI start it next week

[sullen dove]

time to not kill the boss u mean

with no aoe

[trail bane]

I dont even understand the argument. Are you saying "Fury is 20% better at killing parasites so its fine that they are getting their parasite killing capabilities nerfed"?

[forest owl]

best i can do...rank 200 once i die to aggro

[trail bane]

Like, do you even hear what you are arguing?

[forest owl]

what about crit did his guild kill brood tonight?

[hollow bloom]

Another meme

[warm crag]

dont think so

but if he doesnt get r1 i will scream in his ear

1 frost 0 dk is actually criminal

[sullen dove]

skyhold fury chat when warrior is not TOP 1

[buoyant salmon]

real

[clever belfry]

thoughts about

balls=?

[forest owl]

17% best pull, he's close to r1 with that pull though

[buoyant salmon]

yummy

[sullen dove]

love balls

especially ballshd

[hardy cargo]

crush them

[buoyant salmon]

i had some turbo heater brood pulls

[glad plover]

I just dont agree, Dragonflight was a good indication to me, that season to season performance design and downsides, at least for warriors tend to stay the same, so In my opinion early pressure to get things changed is better then waiting to get buff every season, like we did in Dragonflight that is one of the reasons I get frustrated at "we are fine" statements, yes we are fine now, we probably wont be even in next patch if more changes are not in place mainly for ST. As for M+, I tend to play mostly with Paladins and Mages, so yeah I tend to be outdamaged on a lot of bosses (not all) against this monstrosities, however I do not really care about damage in M+, I tend to look to finish the key so boss damage does not really bother me, what bothers me is the fact that this specs not only bring more damage, but also a lot more utility, clearly a design flaw, nothing else.

[warm crag]

he will get r1 or he is hard trolling

I just dont agree, Dragonflight was a good indication to me, that season to season performance design and downsides, at least for warriors tend to stay the same, so In my opinion early pressure to get things changed is better then waiting to get buff every season, like we did in Dragonflight that is one of the reasons I get frustrated at "we are fine" statements, yes we are fine now, we probably wont be even in next patch if more changes are not in place mainly for ST. As for M+, I tend to play mostly with Paladins and Mages, so yeah I tend to be outdamaged on a lot of bosses (not all) against this monstrosities, however I do not really care about damage in M+, I tend to look to finish the key so boss damage does not really bother me, what bothers me is the fact that this specs not only bring more damage, but also a lot more utility, clearly a design flaw, nothing else.

[buoyant salmon]

but then i died once and tilted all might

[hollow bloom]

I know, i just hate balance team

[clever belfry]

s2 fury dmg profile vs s3 fury dmg profile

season to season 👍

[buoyant salmon]

dragonflight s1 was the most balanced patch ever

all around pve

[sullen dove]

free thinkers when they see a wall of text and have to try to not instantly copypaste it

[warm crag]

this is how i look in this conundrum

[plush flower]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[sullen dove]

[clever belfry]

blud u went from saying "palading and mage" to "this spec brings more"

2 -> 1 ?

[buoyant salmon]

i saw the words more utility and chose not to read it

its just such a borinf argument

[dusty cove]

[tidal kindle]

Mine too!

[buoyant salmon]

i get called a rword and bad at the game

[tidal kindle]

And arzy was dead for a whole minute!

[buoyant salmon]

i tell them they suck and are wrong

[glad plover]

Yeah but then you compare S1 to S3. and you see what I am talking about, S2 was exception to the rule, best fury ever felt in my opinion but Blizzard also did changes that targeted right abilities like buffing Rampage for example.

[clever belfry]

best fury ever felt

get 1 mech

go afk rest of fight

👍

king design

[tidal kindle]

RN fury best it has ever felt in past decade can't change my mind AMA

[tidal kindle]

Cuz AM isn't mandatory everywhere

[summer quail]

the man also said paladin does more boss damage in keys. it is very rare i get out damaged on bosses by a ret

[buoyant salmon]

dont ban me garm its funny

[oblique trail]

Me when I have to walk out of Melee on Ovinax so I can't keep uptime for my AM and I fuck my CDs for the add sets gg

[random raptor]

Can someone review this mythic horror kill? I'm not too sure what I'm doing wrong https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kGN2WthDr9LxfHZF#fight=24&type=summary&source=18

[oblique trail]

I love AM!

[summer quail]

#449510248579858432

[tidal kindle]

Me when I get webs every avatar CD set

[clever belfry]

blast more burst

[tidal kindle]

[random raptor]

apologies

[glad plover]

You play with bad rets than.

[buoyant salmon]

ive gotten webs maybe 10 times ever

that shit doesnt go on me

[clever belfry]

u said u lose ST to ret

[buoyant salmon]

god bless blizzard for that

[clever belfry]

thats a bit L innit chum

[buoyant salmon]

youre just a bad fury and its okay

[warm crag]

this is a self report

[summer quail]

i think you're just bad tbh

[buoyant salmon]

no offense

[royal roost]

is there anything that reduces the cd of bladestorm?

[buoyant salmon]

marked for execution

[warm crag]

slayer talents do

[buoyant salmon]

in slayer

[ember apex]

the new M+ affix

[clever belfry]

AM and Marked for Execution (slayer)

[oblique trail]

Marked for Execution and Anger Management

[plush flower]

Losing to rets on bosses in keys might be a you problem lmao

[tidal kindle]

@oblique trail

[warm crag]

macro not pressed

[oblique trail]

[north edge]

If they played ST talents you’d lose to ret

On keys

But they just Devine storm go burr all the time

[buoyant salmon]

just stand in the raid and avatR

fuck em

[tidal kindle]

Yeah and if they played ST talents in keys

They'd do Z aoe

If I played ST arms in keys I'd beat ret in ST talents on ST

[lavish beacon]

[tidal kindle]

[clever belfry]

@warm crag wtf fury op???

[warm crag]

5

they need to nerf arms immediately

2% slayer nerf i think

[buoyant salmon]

bro garms stole my r1 nelth and sark

bc he finessed pi

[hardy cargo]

darn u sir

[sullen dove]

remember when i said uptime was shit in s2 and xeos was like "if u complain about uptime ur bad"

and here everyone is joining the crew

so either ur all bad or xeos is a yapper

[tidal kindle]

Taking xeos seriously

[sullen dove]

(both are also possible)

[tidal kindle]

[warm crag]

xeos is always correct

[clever belfry]

8 noob

[modest condor]

blizzard took xeos seriously

[buoyant salmon]

dont check xeos kyveza parse

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-gif-7617358462219751730

[buoyant salmon]

noob shaman alert

[clever belfry]

wtf FURY OP

[buoyant salmon]

im so beans bro

[sullen dove]

fury op

[warm crag]

they need to nerf fury

[modest condor]

damn fury op http://puu.sh/Kg8ls/b3e943b9ba.png

[hardy cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[sullen dove]

what a specimen

[clever belfry]

they NEED to buff

balance druid

[glad plover]

What is your highest done key ?

[modest condor]

only talk if you have high (500+) io

[buoyant salmon]

+8 mists

pretty good i think

[summer quail]

11 i think. i don't really push keys

[warm crag]

+3 tol dagor

[sullen dove]

wow thats super high!

i just overtimed a 5 by like 8 minutes...

ill get there soon...

[warm crag]

what is yours

[hardy cargo]

dang... did yall manage to do beach pull too?!

[warm crag]

we lusted it

[clever belfry]

i think they split into 2

[buoyant salmon]

i super griefed a +10 as 580 bdk the other day

[clever belfry]

its impossible otherwise

[sullen dove]

[warm crag]

i have keybound my prot spells

[hardy cargo]

....wow you guys are skilled.... can you... teach me....?

[warm crag]

you will shit your pants once i loot a weapon and a shield

[sullen dove]

surely the tank that insta dies when picking up mobs can live +10 fort at 580

[buoyant salmon]

i love shitting

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAOO we pulled a pack 5 times bc i just got fucked over and over

[lime plaza]

Another week an other nerf?

[buoyant salmon]

i said in guild need 1 dps and 2 whispered inv

[runic cypress]

I'm shitting right now

[buoyant salmon]

so was forced to tank or kick 1

[runic cypress]

Feels good

[glad plover]

Best run 99 log grim batol 11, skipped the first so I am only now catching up with rest of the m+ players

skipped the first week*

[marble swift]

apply to key, decline

[buoyant salmon]

fury is so shit

[marble swift]

list key, no one queues

[clever belfry]

11s auto give u

99

btw

[warm crag]

do you know what logs mean for keys or

or is this another self report

[glad plover]

I know

[lime plaza]

Im 622 and with almost 2.5k rio and cannot get into a single 10 key

[glad plover]

I also know what "per key level" means

[lime plaza]

wtf man my flask is running out

[plush flower]

bro posted a wall of text followed by he loses ST to ret in keys. i think he's just yappin a this point

[warm crag]

no you dont then you wouldnt have mentioned the 99 log

[unborn notch]

FURY IS SAVED 🙏

[glad plover]

Sure I am yapping

whatever

[plush flower]

you are

[glad plover]

cya next patch

[buoyant salmon]

if ur not getting 100 parse for your key you are beans

[plush flower]

bye

[summer quail]

[warm crag]

real only world first keys count

[clever belfry]

silence

[warm crag]

🧎

[buoyant salmon]

bfa season 4 ur an old man

[unborn notch]

Kings rest headass

[glad plover]

Season 4 Battle for BFA

rly

[clever belfry]

s3 too

😎

[buoyant salmon]

god i miss junkyard

until you die once

[midnight kite]

dieing once was workable full wiping once was suffering

[buoyant salmon]

i pretty much exclusively tanked that key

[tidal kindle]

4 fire mage every fight

[buoyant salmon]

so if i died (common bc im shit as tanking) other ppl did too

die

[midnight kite]

fair enough

[tidal kindle]

I also had to do half our nzoth on DH (no slappers btw) because every dh trial failed (they got 2x slappers each btw)

[summer quail]

wtf is a slapper

[tidal kindle]

The raden wep

That had corrupted tentacle slap proc

[buoyant salmon]

was that ra den haste trinket actually good

[warm crag]

i progged azshara with a shadow priest that played focusing iris

[summer quail]

ahh, i did not play most of bfa

[tidal kindle]

Yes

[buoyant salmon]

it always simmed like beans on my character

idk why

[warm crag]

ye was like crack

[tidal kindle]

Dude all you had to do for DH that tier was

Press EB on CD

Our DH trials could not press EB on CD

[buoyant salmon]

i was so shit in bra

[clever belfry]

magussy

[wicked moat]

Best dh iteration

[buoyant salmon]

no it wasnt man u just pressed annihilation 400 times

[wicked moat]

You pressed eye beam and got 3000 haste

[buoyant salmon]

unless im thinking of a different patch

eye beam owning is always fun but wasnt death sweep just never worth pressing in st

[inner shadow]

anyone that can answer what's the diff here? why is one called " AOE" other multitarget?

[wicked moat]

And not doing sigils dashing around trying not to catch 300 voidzones of arakara

[sullen dove]

There’s really barely a difference

[buoyant salmon]

if u like no mover havoc over mover havoc u are an old man

no disrespect

[sullen dove]

The first one is prolly more front loaded burst if u don’t cast the rampage

[warm crag]

do top if theres many smallies and do bottom if you care about killing a guy

[sullen dove]

But I’m talkin like killing stuff in 5 seconds if it dies

[plush flower]

your opener will look roughly the same depending on the cds you have available. Playing Titanic rage gives you ww stacks so you dont need to weave ww on pull

[wicked moat]

I think they buffed its damage so it would be used in st

[sullen dove]

But after even 15 seconds whether u rampage before bs or not your burst ends exactly the same if the mobs are still alive just typically u want to do it so your first unhinged cast during BS is a bb for teeny more single target dam

[hardy shuttle]

In st/mt id assume you don't take the talent that makes odyns enrage you so you need the rampage before BS. In AOE the avatar casts odyns so you don't need to rampage

[sullen dove]

yea important distinction there I just kind of assume it’s always talented cuz I do it and don’t want to juggle AJ stacks cuz that shits mid

But also the second one doesn’t cast ww in the opener anyway so TR is probably intended to be talented there too

With that tho if all the adds aren’t about to die when u leave the bladestorm u can use up the ww stacks on other stuff before hitting the second odyns

get an ounce more value out of Trage giving you whirlwind stacks but not rly a big deal

[lucid folio]

I've been playing for an expansion and a half and have a question. I have the mark of khardros trinket and after spending CDs, it always lines up about 10 seconds after CDs are back. Is this because [i don't know if] trinkets aren't affected by haste so it will almost always lag behind?

[warm crag]

its because of the current xalatath affix

[sullen dove]

Presumably you’re doing m+ with the affix that gives you cdr on abilities

but they should line up yeah

[lucid folio]

ah that makes sense. ty both !!

[sullen dove]

U prolly just hold your major cds for trinket anyway and just take the earlier bladestorm cd and other stuff

Since u still want to get BS with cds if you can (doesn’t always happen) but usually u can squeeze one or maybe two more in there with affix in between 90s

[lucid folio]

sick! right on

[tulip tundra]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fury-down-20-spots-this-week/1973937
upvote, all

[restive idol]

Anyone have a well rounded SMF talent build?

[plush flower]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[unborn notch]

This was during 2 button havoc in SL with sinful brand

But it's been good since

Not only did it do bad damage it'd be less efficient than spending the fury on anni to get eye beam back to keep brand up

[feral ivy]

the more i play with aug the more i dont want them in my m+

[unborn notch]

I wouldn't invite an Aug ever

🦐

Had one do like 650k in an 8 cot and I've not looked back

[feral ivy]

i ddint time a 9mist because the shield didnt break fast enough and 2 ppl died

[unborn notch]

Did the other dps suck?

[feral ivy]

i was 1 but idk how to tell really.. i died once and that was because of the shield i guess me and the other person had no cd's

[unborn notch]

Sounds like a lot of things went wrong not just aut

Aug

[young citrus]

should i be mad its not mark of khardros?

[feral ivy]

50/50

[sullen dove]

They are the exact same trinket

does not matter

Skarm is like 200 less stat on the on use for more overall stat throughout with equip effect

[young citrus]

i guess skarmorak for m+ and some add encounters but mark > skarm single target

[feral ivy]

found out went wrong.. i did a 9 and was comparing it to that when my mist was a 11 ... big diff lol

[restive idol]

it's good enough, I just want to have a nice tmog and walk fast

[feral ivy]

didnt notice i was doing a that key lvl

[errant vessel]

no you should be happy it’s shard

[tender sky]

Are we all playing arms already? That’s ahead of schedule!

[wanton cliff]

Nope

Maybe 1 fight arms bout it

[inner shadow]

can anyone type this name

im tryna add this giga man

[feral ivy]

tpowbap?

[silver mauve]

hey on ST during reck should my rotation just be raging>rampage repeat until I need to press bloodthirst to get 80 rage? or should i be less worried about overcapping rage and more worried about using procs

[inner shadow]

anyone got a clue how to make my whirlwind buff make a sound when it ends?

[orchid dagger]

go play bgb and fc

[inner harbor]

no, hope that helps

[thin mantle]

Трошвар

[frank rover]

alright gang

first 5 mins looking promising

[livid lake]

Is fury still worth playing over arms with arms gear on mythic brood?

[buoyant salmon]

frost dk op

[feral ivy]

those are really good dps

[restive idol]

right? people always coming in here and bragging bout dps

like we get it, you buy vbucks for better gear. Dont need to rub it in our poor face

[feral ivy]

ngl I wont hit 2.8 or 2.2 or 1.9 for awhile

[olive wraith]

Nice that’s pretty good

[frank rover]

thank u sir

im parsing here

[runic violet]

lol is that an addon?

[feral ivy]

yea its something u dont want

[runic violet]

my decline would be in 3 digits

[frank rover]

sure would like to actually play the game any time now

[ancient rain]

No clue. I’d like to know this as well

[lime plaza]

my declines are at 50 for sure

since my last dungeon

[runic violet]

Just own key hoping to not brick.

[lime plaza]

My NW 10 dropped all the way to 7

only bozos in my teams

[runic violet]

NW10 is pretty hard not coordinated

i mean... most of 10 is hard not coordinated

except maybe a couple

[feral ivy]

what is there to coordinate?

outside from the obvious stuff*

[runic violet]

u know.. picking up things and aiming things...

[lime plaza]

I stand by the opinion thats 10s are neither hard nor too easy

Most people just suck

[runic violet]

I feel the current season is mechanic overload

[lime plaza]

Not using cds or health pots is one of the biggest mistakes I see

[runic violet]

and very heavy on grp dng

dmg*

[feral ivy]

depends on key 100% atm mist and dawn and ara are easy time 10's the rest are "harder" .. grim is stupid hard and will go cry in a corner if u get that

[lime plaza]

I dont get whats so hard about grim

after the nerfs it feels easy

[runic violet]

grim feels pretty manageable

i wouldn't say easy

[lime plaza]

Its very linear. My grip this season is bolarus

gripe*

[runic violet]

what about bolarus

[lime plaza]

Every tank I have bogs out in bolarus

Or someone asspulls

and we end up with 120% count

every single time

[runic violet]

Hmmm..

I've seen a couple extra pulls...

but since I went wazoo during bfa... it feels pretty familiar

[warm crag]

yes your gear barely matters for this

ideally you get an on use 90s trinket tho

[lime plaza]

Dont let me start about the last boss and people epsecially the healer just not playing well

[runic violet]

last boss... should be very easy but ppl get too much in hurry and fuck up.

[lime plaza]

I play healer myself and im suspecting most healers just have dogshit uis

[feral ivy]

siege i get warlock (not demo) every time just for last boss

[runic violet]

last boss should be just take your time... and move one at a time... easy

[lime plaza]

hahahaha

gl with that buddy

[young swan]

siege is pretty free now, no?

[lime plaza]

Idk it should be. Maybe im just unlucky

but its 7 depletes in a row now

6 of those were disbands

[modest condor]

you can pretty easily 2chest +10s

the +12 might be an issue tho

[lime plaza]

+12 with pugs is insane

[finite kestrel]

Haste or mastery priority ?

[feral ivy]

anyone know how much weathered crest i need for full 590 gear on a alt?

[frank rover]

got into a +7 gang

icredible

[tidal kindle]

Bro I went on the forums

We are so doomed

Not even most of the forum yappers can formulate a solid argument as to why these nerfs are bad

@young swan time for 17 para manifesto pt 2?

[young swan]

i will not be partaking

at least in the writing portion

[tidal kindle]

Dw I can do it myself

[young swan]

i can give thoughts

[sullen dove]

you are the only one that can repair this

[tidal kindle]

You can just yap

https://tenor.com/55kF.gif

[sullen dove]

we need a 20% slam buff

[tidal kindle]

I will not offer solutions

I will simply

Call out the bourgeousie devs wizards and hero classes

Assaulting the mass warrior proletariat

[sullen dove]

yea you cant offer solutions or they will specifically not undertake them out of spite

any of archi's suggestions

over the last how many years

[lime plaza]

I want blizzard to nerf warrior dmg by 30% so warrior is finally dead

Then we can rest easy 😴