fury

[bitter palm]

uptime is good

bsl

vers/crit bsl

[warm crag]

i mean uptime will be good enough for it to sim best

but still crafting weapon is the correct choice for 99% of people

[chrome plover]

I think he means uptime of ascension actually

[spice wind]

Yeah thought that was implied sorry

Especially as me and my friends are absolutely woeful at retail so pulls will be slow and ascension will drop off

[bitter palm]

meh

i wouldnt worry about it

the fact that u can get a 636 weapon

is good enough

bsl is like 1500 stats anyway

which aint much at all

[warm crag]

tbf i think theyre not clearing 9s any time soon which is fine, but you can get a free hc crest to craft a hc track weapon that you can later upgrade to mythic track

[spice wind]

How? Only thing holding me back from crafting weapon is crest

[warm crag]

if you finish the first chapter of the level 80 campaign you can pick up a quest to kill queen ansurek on any difficulty

you can just queue the story mode you can just do it solo

[spice wind]

Thanks a lot! Had no idea 😄 guess ill craft the bracers with the double effect embellishment then

[dry hawk]

I'm not even able to get into 9's so 😭

[warm crag]

noob

team up with guildies

[dry hawk]

They would rather take a warlock over me

[warm crag]

find a new guild

sounds like an ass place to be in

[verbal dragon]

I just rerolled war before the expac even came out and this is what i get, a gutted class loll

[plush flower]

find friends or post in m+ discords. Add good players to bnet after successful keys and sign up to their keys again

[warm crag]

"gutted" still played twice every boss gg

[forest tapir]

#updates-midnight message

So Fury got a big Buff?

[plush flower]

It’s not gutted

[quaint stag]

? Archi said it’s a small nerf not a buff

[warm crag]

the am buff will probs be decently relevant

[frozen lake]

Nerf after nerf after nerf because of raid specific add damage on two fights

Amazing

[hexed gulch]

And already bottom of dps lists on raid

[plush flower]

Blame heroic week

[plucky ice]

bros blasting too hard in LFR look what happened

[frozen lake]

Yep

[warm crag]

okay none of you prog fair enough

[next coyote]

Where can I see the patch notes for 11.0.5?

[rigid rain]

When the patch will be added?

[frozen lake]

When packs lasted 4 seconds and you did half the dungeon in one pull, we were awesome

[hexed gulch]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamined-class-and-spell-changes-on-the-patch-11-0-5-ptr-druid-buffs-warrior-347413

[warm crag]

#updates-midnight has the ones relevant to warriors compacted in one place

[next coyote]

So datamined and not locked in?

[spice wind]

Sorry what’s am fury? Still iffy on the abbbreviations

[earnest grail]

yeah but he dosnt explained, that it isnt a rly buff for Slayer fury. Some ppl are stupid and think its a huge buff for us

[warm crag]

blueposted so somewhat locked in? probs arent final tho

[plucky ice]

bet there's a dev who loves watching fury doom over ptr changes lmao.

[earnest grail]

pretty sure shes bluehaird

[warm crag]

anger management, the talent that is in the same choice node as reckless abandon

[warm crag]

i don't understand what you mean

[warm crag]

AM is semi close to actually being pretty good and is already played on ovinax progress to get bladestorms every add set

[earnest grail]

let me explain with a example. Look at Ubisoft or something similar

Its clearly a Agender

We are already on the bottom, still we get another nerf

some dev got triggered by Warriors

[plucky ice]

[warm crag]

ah your point is misogony i see

[restive granite]

its a social experiment guys

its a prank

[earnest grail]

haha

imagine

[earnest grail]

no it isnt

[warm crag]

what does this mean then

[hexed gulch]

I mean it has to be a joke with these nerfs right? Already bottom dps in raid. Bad in m+ dmg wise, and have less utility than almsot every class/spec?

[plucky ice]

early April fools

haha got em

[earnest grail]

you seems to be softsided, so i dont will answer to that because you will get triggerd anyway

no matter what i say

[warm crag]

lmao

[hexed gulch]

+1

[earnest grail]

i dont hate spezific people, i hate dumb people

and this is dumb

[warm crag]

you hate dumb people you compartmentalize as bluehaired women?

[earnest grail]

i never say its a woman

you do

so iam right about you

[smoky vale]

you said she

[hexed gulch]

But on the otherhand, i've never met a smart blue haired man/woman

[long prairie]

🍿

[earnest grail]

do you just assumed the dev's gender?

[wanton cliff]

you said she

[earnest grail]

look above

[smoky vale]

^

[warm crag]

digging your own grave

[spice wind]

This is such a shit take. ”You didn’t like the way i spoke about other people so you are easily triggered”

[earnest grail]

you assumed gender again

[sharp eagle]

When sim'ing Fury for M+, what fight style should I be using?...

[long prairie]

all of them

[wanton cliff]

i dont like dumb people , shes blue haired , why you assume shes female

[warm crag]

ignore them, not representative of anything relevant

[wanton cliff]

oh im reading

[smoky vale]

inb4 its edited xd

[earnest grail]

i dont do that

im not a little child

[smoky vale]

no point interacting with a child

[plucky ice]

[earnest grail]

xD

[spice wind]

Zugzug

[next coyote]

Nelyu goin IN on blue hair dont fetishize my stupidity

[rigid rain]

Why ppl get so mad with a joke, u cant get angry just for a joke from a random guy

[earnest grail]

they do

[long prairie]

because we are warriors

and warriors are always mad

that's the point

[next coyote]

Its in the name crepeahchoco ypu tell em

[earnest grail]

because some ppl think they are good human to get angry about a obvious joke

[next coyote]

F

U

R

Y

[restive granite]

has any other class ever got kicked like this in the past?

[long prairie]

look at the arm channel

less anger

[next coyote]

Anger management perhaps?

[restive granite]

maybe fire mage when they introdcued living bomb rework, but holy shit were getting L after L

[low folio]

Definitely there has been harsher nerfs in the past

[long prairie]

for sure

[plucky ice]

just waiting for dk mage shammy nerfs, doesn't seem all are treated equal

[restive granite]

warrior is also the shittiest HS class with the most expensive deck

they hate us

[spice wind]

Haha warriors feeling hard done by, a story as old as time

[plucky ice]

wonder why, only good at burst aoe low hp adds

[low folio]

We had two fury in rwf kill so they felt we should get a little bit more sprinkles sent our way

[restive granite]

and i started gearing my warlock and they also got hit by huge Ls in the last ptr patchnotes

[warm crag]

need to be brought at least 4 times before we are happy

[restive granite]

L after L

[warm crag]

anything less and we need to doom

[low folio]

I mean the nerfs really aren’t necessary

[warm crag]

sure, but they didnt move the needle

[slender perch]

would love some more nerfs to Fury so we can just flip the dps charts and say we are at the top

[pearl crypt]

Shift most power into rampage, have bt, rb and exe as builders. Cds still serve as burst but are not as big. There boom i just fixed your issue blizz

[restive granite]

execute should be a button that you always want to press

feels so dumb playing a hero spec that revolves aorund it and you just dont press it

[pearl crypt]

Rage capping and/or going over feels like shit

So idk, maybe yes maybe no

Tie it to some proc. Like marked for death

[warm crag]

then you dont want RA or

[pearl crypt]

Otherwise, rampage should alwqys be a button u smash

[idle ember]

are m+ slice quick sims pointless/misleading? im bout to jump ship

[plush flower]

All of the previous ners were warranted aside from target capping odyns and roar. Yesterdays round just make it seem like they don’t know what they want to do

[spice wind]

Only doing good when popping every cooldown feels like shit. Like OG recklessness type stuff

[eternal sundial]

Slice isnt the perfect sim type for aoe

But arms just does more raw aoe

Less burst

Less st

[worldly thunder]

any1 face an issue uploading a combat log file ? mine stuck at uploading 0% for some reason

[pearl crypt]

Idk about you but it feels dumb to prio cb/bt over rampage

[earnest grail]

you sure about this one?

[thick fossil]

To be honest, I think dooming is largely pointless at this point. Even after the 3rd nerf they didn't rethink things very well.

[warm crag]

ye sounds about right in m+ spec

[river viper]

GB +9 had to kill the 3rd boss 3 times before it registered as defeated - depleted +9 key when we killed the last boss 22min in 😦

[warm crag]

there were 2 nerfs

i know the nerf amount psyop is really powerful

[thick fossil]

The boss disappeared as soon as the dragon kicked him off? Had that happen once. Was strange, because there were zero mechanics next pull. No adds, no knock backs. Nothing.

[thick fossil]

I mean if we want to lump everything together, yes 2.
It's just the waves of release has been like 4.

[warm crag]

there were 2 waves of nerfs applied to fury since release

2 are currently on the ptr

[hardy cargo]

Sometimes when playing slayer arms in keys I just absolutely fucking dominate the boss, I guess it’s just slayers strike procs tho

[warm crag]

half this discourse is as if the ptr nerfs are already live ye

[plucky ice]

more nerfs will come to ptr I don't think blizz is done lmao

[warm crag]

critique as you want it is valid but stick to the facts

[river viper]

Not entirely sure if he disappeared right away I was too busy cursing the game and trying avoid all the firenadoes. Only thing I saw was the boss wasn't marked as defeated. I think its to do with the shitty affix spawning in right at the end

[finite hare]

Which nerfs are not on live?

[warm crag]

#updates-midnight

the soft target cap decrease on stuff and the new changes on the ptr

[modest condor]

cant wait for them to just delete odyns fury

[warm crag]

detel

[modest condor]

detel

[hardy cargo]

I will detel you

[modest condor]

my fingers dont always do what my brains wants them to

[earnest grail]

warrior hidden passive

[warm crag]

fury gains ~5%

[river viper]

I can't wait for funny comments that people will use to insult each other such as "even the fury warrior is beating you"

[oblique trail]

Spongie loses ~5%

[warm crag]

me when i imagine scenarios cause i dont have actual reasons to get upset over

[finite hare]

👍

[marble swift]

so what class to reroll since S1 is just nerfed into oblivion

[hardy cargo]

U just sit as warrior and take it like a good little boy

Next season we will be at the top and left unchecked

[marble swift]

nah ill unsub idc

[earnest grail]

understandable

[fast mural]

only time warrior is on top is in fated seasons

[marble swift]

community brain rot wont take a nerfed mdps for high end content so why go crazy

[thick fossil]

I'm hopeful the ones on ptr will be re-thought out. Won't hold my breath, because we've seen it way too many times just go live anyway.

[fast mural]

i guess if you want to push past 12 sure

[hardy cargo]

Then sounds like your question is answered (mage)

[marble swift]

ptr isnt for testing

[fast mural]

"puplic test realm"

[marble swift]

theyve almost never reverted anything on ptr unless its an exploit

[remote bobcat]

yo guys I saw the new changes coming with the anniv patch

[earnest grail]

its still Test Realm

[remote bobcat]

fury finally getting single target

[fast mural]

lmao

[remote bobcat]

COPIUM

[earnest grail]

lmao

[frozen lake]

LMAO

[fast mural]

he doesnt know

[thick fossil]

While I agree it seems to be that way. Though it's in the God damn name. PTR, Public Test Realm.

[earnest grail]

everyone who think we are stronger after that, is an idiot

[warm crag]

idk if theres enough noise comprised of actual critique not "why fury nerf again??" while fury is a spec played 2-3x on relevant prog fights we might get somewhere

[marble swift]

arch does

[remote bobcat]

do you know what copium is?

[marble swift]

so does some blue names in here

[warm crag]

i dont think we're getting across this threshold

[marble swift]

dev paid

[earnest grail]

i dont mean you by that

[remote bobcat]

do you

[earnest grail]

in my Forums, ppl think is a huge buff

[remote bobcat]

know

what copium is

[earnest grail]

yes

i know what copium is

[remote bobcat]

then let people have

their copium

[fast mural]

warrior brain

[earnest grail]

Ok, Sir!

[meager void]

is every hour idiot-o'clock now in Skyhold?

goddamn

[fast mural]

every time there are fury nerfs it is

[earnest grail]

[remote bobcat]

so every hour p much yea

KEKW

[fast mural]

Warriors coping since palace

[hardy cargo]

The real problem is them nerfing hero talents instead of fury (which is where most power of our OP niche lies) and catching strays to our other spec that we swap to in situations where fury’s niche isn’t needed

Which is also already middle of the pack

[fast mural]

arms getting hit because of fury nerfs is actually pretty funny

[thick fossil]

That was my point about dooming being pointless. Even when we do explain how and why these changes really hurt our usefulness in everything other than niche raid encounters.

[warm crag]

this is good critique king make everyone else say this too

[meager void]

"but they nerfed me and now im F tier"

[fast mural]

did they fix the spelling on "warbringer" target cap btw

maybe they capped the ST ability

[remote bobcat]

ok but regardless of me maining warrior I feel like WoW has always been in a good state as a game every time warrior was meta

COPIUM

[warm crag]

warbringer is funny

[earnest grail]

i will look it up, ifs horrible, i will switch to tank or arms

[warm crag]

you are meta right now

[fast mural]

wait warbringer isnt even ST

[warm crag]

in raid, at least

[fast mural]

it might not be a spelling issue

[remote bobcat]

fury is meta on 3 fights

my guy

[warm crag]

when did we go from 5 to 3

[meager void]

agh, again

[fast mural]

5

[remote bobcat]

the other 2 are contested

[fast mural]

and you could argue 6

[remote bobcat]

where u can go arms

absolute_cinema

[warm crag]

arms st is also fine to bring 2 of so you are meta on 8/8 fights gg

like sure we aren't looking at legion level of class stacking of 3+ warriors every fight but that is never gonna happen again

[meager void]

this is where the actual info is https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069
The rest is apes slipping on bananas, think of your worst SIEGE run, that.

[fast mural]

once HoF is done we gonna play arms anyway cause colossus buffs

[warm crag]

wdym contested several specs can be meta on the same fight at the same time

[fast mural]

he means fury vs arms

[warm crag]

raid team is 20 players not 2

he said warrior

he did not mean fury vs arms

[oblique trail]

The fact that you can play both specs and both have representation, as well as opportunity to bring 2x warriors, for basically all fights, should say the state of warrior rn is very good despite the 2 nerfs we got

[remote bobcat]

there can only one most-effective-tactic-available for warrior per fight

so yes im saying fury vs arms

👍

[meager void]

and there it is

[remote bobcat]

this is very true

[warm crag]

you said warrior here and that was what the whole convo was about until this point no

[meager void]

an obvious gap in warrior knowledge clearly displayed for all to see

[remote bobcat]

although the 3% shouldn't have applied to ST in my opinion

[eternal sundial]

I correctly predicted x2 war on endboss

[warm crag]

or do you mean your preferred spec is the entirety of warrior

[meager void]

but hey "they nerfed me so Im F tier now"

[thick fossil]

The worst Siege runs never see the bananas. They don't make it pass the fixate boss, cause the one person he picks has no idea to take him to a bomb. Lol

[warm crag]

i said 3x but that was before both nerfs fuck !!!

[remote bobcat]

no u right

[inland nebula]

Just made a RET alt for keys. Actually feels insane how often you have damage compared to fury 🥲

[remote bobcat]

you should try windwalker

[fast mural]

i hate seing warriors becoming ranged players

[remote bobcat]

big dam every 30 sec

[meager void]

So you mean that sustained MT specs have more sustained MT than a burst MT spec?

damn, who would have thunk

[eternal sundial]

Then again i said 1 of of each

Very unfortunate

[inland nebula]

lol Pali is literally so much range it’s crazy! And WW looks great! I just like plate classes 😂

[oblique trail]

This is not really true is it

[meager void]

it is not

[oblique trail]

Take Rashanan for example, my cowarrior goes Fury to kill adds, I go Arms to kill the boss?

[warm crag]

try dk king

[oblique trail]

Does this mean one of is wrong and the other is right suddenly?

[remote bobcat]

no

that means

for your job

your spec is meta

[fast mural]

well if you care about parses only arms is right now

[remote bobcat]

for his job

his spec is meta

[meager void]

that dream bursts the first time you want to leap out of something

[remote bobcat]

you could have a diff comp

then suddenly

no need for arms

[warm crag]

ams

[remote bobcat]

or fury for that matter

[restive narwhal]

Cueing as 621 and 2300iO into 9s is abselutely useless. Its crazy

[fast mural]

its hard to switch fury out on rashanan tho

[restive narwhal]

Was never this bad

[fast mural]

unless you have enh shamans proccing some good rng

[oblique trail]

But there are still two "tactics" then that could be considered best in our circumstance

[meager void]

longer CD than leap

[oblique trail]

Where I could also go Fury as well to make sure the adds die, in case he dies

[warm crag]

this isnt really how this game works fury and arms both bring really good things that differ from each other

[remote bobcat]

there will always be a single most effective strat for your character slotted into a pre-existing group of 19

[warm crag]

arms pipes execute and rashanan starts at a lower % threshold

[oblique trail]

This is not true

[warm crag]

it was extremely common to play 1x arms 1x fury for sarkareth

[meager void]

not true at all

[fast mural]

but you dont get to play arms

[thick fossil]

Yes it was. S2 when Aug voker came out. 3k IO, was declined for an hour to 20s.

[oblique trail]

There are multiple things you can do on a fight where you accomplish different things that are all effective

It really is not that one dimensional at all

[warm crag]

ngl 621 isnt overly competetive anymore

this week truely everyone should cap hc crests if spent properly

[remote bobcat]

most effective strat is not the same as effective strats

get real man

[meager void]

if at this point, you dont have a 10 timed, your invites for 10s will be sparse

[inland nebula]

I find if you get decently good at fury you won’t have too many problems at least keeping up with a majority of people as fury. I do struggle to keep up with shamans and DKs in m+ tho

[meager void]

its not about io, its about being able to bridge the Tyran+Fort gap

[oblique trail]

I genuinely think you should get a grip thinking there's only 1 outcome for you on a given fight

[meager void]

you could have all your 9s +++ and still get shit invtes for 10s

[warm crag]

i mean if you wanna be pedantic yes there is a mathematical best option assuming everyone plays their role perfectly and the comp is perfect and gearing is perfect and whatever

[remote bobcat]

if you have a group of 19 that absolutely obliterates rashanan adds then theres no reason for you to go fury if you have the option to go arms and be effecvtive on arms

[warm crag]

fights and guilds don't work that way though

[meager void]

he's not going for sanity on the argument spongie, I would just let go

he keeps stating "facts" that show clear lack of knowleged

[plucky ice]

there's a reason to go fury so others can just st blast

they might lose a lot more dps with aoe/cleave

[warm crag]

like if your guild is 19 fdks and they're screaming at you to go play arms on rashanan i think you get a veto and you get to do whatever the fuck you want

would probably be more optimal so you can pull the boss and parry it for 6 seconds

tbf

[jovial coral]

I think you should grip dn

[inland nebula]

Tbh feel like such a Chad doing this

[remote bobcat]

call it semantics or not but I am of the idea that meta means exactly what the acronym stands for. Not just "oh this spec is strong rn so its meta"

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cake-cat-cake-meme-gif-24537247

[meager void]

hell, about the RWF win kill on Queen comp, Max said that going x2 fury was probably not the best but that once they commited to gearing and the prog, it would have been dumb to change

[remote bobcat]

so idfk how you guys argue for multiple possibilities

[warm crag]

meta doesnt mean mathematically optimal comp though

[worldly thunder]

any1 avail to have a look at my log im struggling here fellas

[remote bobcat]

Then feel free to explain what meta means

KEKW

[meager void]

the guys that killed Mythic Queen first did it a "not perfect" comp

[remote bobcat]

correct

they over-killed as well

[warm crag]

have you literally seen any game that has had meta and seen them pick the same exact weapons/champions/characters/etc?

[meager void]

thats how much bs this idea about perfect comps is

see this is where you read what happened but somehow get to a stupid conclusion

im giving up

[remote bobcat]

may I introduce you to Melee

KEKW

[warm crag]

shit example but overwatch goats was a mathematical optimal comp and still had like 6 variations that did things slightly differently

[meager void]

the RWF guys are literally showing you how there are many many ways to go about handling the content

[warm crag]

why isnt every pro game in every game a mirror match if a meta is defined

[meager void]

and you see that and say "but tiers, but meta, but perfect comp..." blah blah blah

[runic violet]

Man... I was catching up on a fury warrior in ST with my ret. The warrior had 12 ilvl higher.

[meager void]

get a fucking grip

[plucky ice]

yea st dog water

[remote bobcat]

My guy i have not ever argued against the fact that non-perfect, aka non-meta comps are able to clear content. What the fuck are you on man gimme some of that

[meager void]

the argument is that the perfect meta comp is an impossible dream

[remote bobcat]

who ever mentioned a perfect meta comp

my guy

[warm crag]

oly moly

[remote bobcat]

did you even read

[runic violet]

I outdps'd other warriors. they all higher ilvl than me. sadge

[remote bobcat]

what I said

I said a pre-existing comp

any comp

not full meta

any comp

if you slot into that

then there will be a most effective tactic available

mathematically

just one

[warm crag]

if the 19 people you played with were mathematically perfect at their jobs sure

[remote bobcat]

not multiple

[meager void]

and thats not how guilds work

[warm crag]

find me a guild that does that

[meager void]

exactly

thats not how anything works really

you are trying to make 20 people simultaneously work together

[remote bobcat]

Dude the definition of meta is based purely on theory and you come out and say yea but practically you will never find anything like that~

congratulations

[warm crag]

wdym meta is based on purely theory

[meager void]

its not 19 static and 1 variable. Its 20 variables.

[charred panther]

Too many sciency words in this warrior channel

Stop

[meager void]

there is no such theory

[remote bobcat]

true

go back to zugzug

[warm crag]

ppl dont sit before seasons saying "this will be meta" people look at what people have done and say "this is meta"

[meager void]

I feel he somehow thinks we can raidbots a meta comp or something

[remote bobcat]

people also tend to use meta based on popularity

it heavily influences their observation of meta, at least

[meager void]

meta is fucking popularity

[warm crag]

are we looking at subsections of how people define meta or how it is commonly understood

[remote bobcat]

thats what u call meta

I dont

we are not the same

absolute_cinema

[deep hare]

meta is short for metamorphosis

[meager void]

and what is meta for you

[oblique trail]

so smart gg

[eager relic]

I thought it was short for Metallica

[remote bobcat]

most effective tactic available

that hard to understand?

[eternal sundial]

The best tactic is to play 10 ppl in a key

[meager void]

there is no such thing

[eternal sundial]

Or use torghast abuse

[deep hare]

best tactic to getting 8/8m is to pay better players to 19man it while you sit there

[meager void]

there's not a most effective tactic available

[remote bobcat]

That's just wrong lol

[eternal sundial]

@remote bobcat tell me the godcomp

What must i reroll to

[warm crag]

i mean there probably is a most effective tactic out there somewhere but no one will ever achieve it in a game like wow so its not really worth discussing

[remote bobcat]

I wouldnt know

[meager void]

or rather, thers the tactics that get you kills, like RWF, but thats not a "most effective tactic"

[eternal sundial]

Then why would anyone listen to you

🔇

[warm crag]

considering there arent 20 people in the world that can pilot the god comp in a way that makes it undebatably the god comp

[eager relic]

Did you really just argue with these people to brag that youre the only one who uses the literal definition of meta

[remote bobcat]

ah yes "oh you don't know the absolute perfect comp? damn therefore anything you say about comps isnt worth listening to"

classic

[meager void]

I mean, Maverick beat MIGS with an old Raptor

[eternal sundial]

Correct

[trail bane]

Guys i just woke up from a terrible nightmare.

I dremt that Blizzards developers were incompetent.

For example, instead of nerfing Fury Bladestorm directly they nerfed the Slayer hero talent Culling Cyclone. Not only making the nerf 5% less bladestorm dmg for ST and only 1% less for 5 target AOE. But also affecting Arms since they play Slayer.

INSANE RIGHT?

[meager void]

what you call meta is a mixture of player skill and comp choice

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag is chicken or cow meta for kebab

[runic violet]

This is the interenet. Everyone wants to contradict everything they see

[warm crag]

where are you getting beef kebab from what the fuck

[coarse nest]

Pig ashkually

[warm crag]

also i am a chicken believer but i understand that this is not meta

[coarse nest]

[eternal sundial]

Well it wont be any pork kebab

I can tell you that

[remote bobcat]

we got chicken beef and lamb kebabs where im from

p neat

[warm crag]

i think i saw some sold in bavaria

vile stuff

[eternal sundial]

I wish we had lamb kebab

But itd be even more expensive

[warm crag]

tf you mean you wish lamb is like everywhere in yermany

[eternal sundial]

7,50€ for meal

[warm crag]

yours is only 7.50????????????????

dönerpreisbremse Sofort!

[eternal sundial]

Legit NONE of the places i have been to

Have lamb kebab

[warm crag]

we have chicken lamb everywhere

[eternal sundial]

Only Rind and Geflügel

[eternal sundial]

Danke Merkel...

[deep hare]

ja

[plucky ice]

wtf kebab is like 12€ here..

[eternal sundial]

???

[warm crag]

i am a geflügel fan

[eternal sundial]

Same

[worldly thunder]

any log reviewers

[deep hare]

i like birch

[eternal sundial]

Geflügel, keine Tomaten, Cocktail + Tzaziki

[eternal sundial]

There's a channel for it #449510248579858432

Fairly active too

[vivid peak]

guys with more nerfs comin we now basically dead specc right

[deep hare]

yep

[eternal sundial]

What's ur kebab order

[deep hare]

might aswell delete your character and make a different class

i personally recommend frost death knight 👍

[warm crag]

can you review my logs please i cannot parse!!!!!!!!

it must be the fury nerfs!

[eternal sundial]

Ngl man fury logs are so dogshit to look at

Cba

[vivid peak]

nah bro im quittin before that right im payin monthly for game to get f in my butt

[deep hare]

ok byebye

[warm crag]

nothing valuable to see in fury logs

just press cds at the right time lmao

[eternal sundial]

Or didnt press cb at all

[warm crag]

you are a meta spec in raid get a grip

[runic violet]

GIT ER GRIP!

[warm crag]

meta class if you play arms aswell

[deep hare]

can you teach me how with a 4 paragraph response instead please

[tawny shadow]

M+ tho

[warm crag]

(meta being correct in this instance too!! as both rwf guilds used both specs 1-3 times per fight!)

[vivid peak]

ye im not raidin just m+ player

[hardy cargo]

All gather we must smite the mini game hater

[warm crag]

go reroll to a caster

what are you still doing on melee if you only care about m+

[meager void]

"look at what all this nerfs have done to my dps"
(nerfs coming in 1 month)

[deep hare]

spec into prot pwar is slamming

[vivid peak]

bc its fun

[tawny shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/stavros-stavroskap-tiktok-hot-tampabay-gif-20287432

[warm crag]

what do you mean by this?

[deep hare]

i blacklisted wowhead on the family computer so my wife cant see the fury nerfs and leave me again

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-drinking-gif-5112090

[warm crag]

saw a guy fall to his knees in walmart

he said another fury nerf hit ptr

[deep hare]

where were you when fury die

i was at house eating dorito when phone ring

[warm crag]

walmart i just said

[deep hare]

fury is kil

no

[eternal sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1288204591954919485/makesweet-aclwi6.gif

[golden hare]

hello guy!!

[deep hare]

https://tenor.com/view/grolles-educational-gif-26887785

[warm crag]

do you think the first boss tank trinket will be necessary for high m+?

[deep hare]

hi erga big fan of your work

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-technicality-but-it-checks-out-wheres-the-lie-its-true-tho-gif-25068212

[golden hare]

i don't work but thanks !

[thick fossil]

I wish I didn't have to work.

[celest sierra]

Jeez I got 639 wep wnd 636 crafted and now my warrior is fucking nuking

[deep hare]

😎

[willow knoll]

guys, prio is crushing blow or bloodbath in aoe?

[ornate gust]

Will Blizzard soft cap Ravager to 5 target?

[late escarp]

Anger Management now for M+?

[warm crag]

maxroll and wowhead have aoe rotation sections

[narrow narwhal]

The changes aren't out yet

[warm crag]

changes on ptr arent live for another month or so ye

[late escarp]

gotcha gotcha

[celest sierra]

After the updates go in on the 20th AM will be the go too

[cerulean gyro]

What's the stance on the new patch notes?

PTR

[soft parcel]

Hello everyone, if i want to play with 2x 1hand, what point i can swap to take the talent

[celest sierra]

Horrible they keep shooting fury down and arms keeps catching stray bullets cause of fury

[celest sierra]

U don’t SMF is horrible

[modest viper]

hello warriors, anyone have any WA edits i should be using over the defaults available

[fluid cedar]

At this point it seems like they just need to rework us because we keep getting this AM build put on us barring the last two months of fun we’ve had. And S3 DF with the exhilarating annihilator two button rotation

[cerulean gyro]

Yeah idk how to feel about the constant barrage of nerfs for fury

[long prairie]

you swap for the rogue talent tree

[soft parcel]

i dont want to play fury like top players i just want to have fun x) i look for advice ❤️

[fluid cedar]

NGL I liked the annihilator playstyle but it got stale kinda quick

[eternal sundial]

1 kumpir mit Fleisch bitte

[warm crag]

tell the smf king what point to drop

i dont remember which one it was

[celest sierra]

All this stemmed from our AOE with bladestorm , but they are gutting the class at this point

[warm crag]

i think it was bloodcraze?

[celest sierra]

If they keep nerfing fury like this soon battle shout won’t even matter cause we gunna be deadweight in any content groups won’t want warriors

[deep hare]

raging blow

[warm crag]

alright stop being dramatic you are currently brought to raid twice on every fight and these nerfs wont change that

[violet moss]

Fury is hardly getting nerfed as much as arms 😂

[celest sierra]

Arms getting nerfed cause of slayer changes aimed at fury . And im not being dramatic we litersllt dropped 20 slots on the charts

[oblique trail]

FUCK

[deep hare]

didnt know fury made music

[oblique trail]

WE DROPPED 20 SLOTS ON THE CHARTS

FUUUCK

[lethal onyx]

So I finally started to level my level 70 Warrior and man that's fun.

Where is the only class I haven't actually played like ever.

I've been playing since rafaelichang and I've played every single class except Warrior and right now this is what I am thinking.

" Why the f*** did I wait so long to play Warrior? This is awesome!"

[warm crag]

shit we dropped 20 slots on the charts???

my raid spot is dropping!!!!!!!!!

[crisp prism]

so this one comes from delves

people were assuming nerub elites

[oblique trail]

It can drop from both

[lethal onyx]

Apparently it's about average to slightly below the same item level weapon from what I've read if I'm remembering correctly.

[cerulean gyro]

yupp

[eternal sundial]

No it's pretty sick in st

[celest sierra]

This looks busted lmao

[eternal sundial]

But just craft a 636

[crisp prism]

i heard its sick in st

[warm crag]

its better than on par ilvl but its capped out at hc ilvl

[oblique trail]

It's good at equal ilvl in ST

[warm crag]

legit irrelevant

[oblique trail]

But it's worse than a myth ilvl weapon

[crisp prism]

but lack of primary stat is bad

[wanton cliff]

Thats not due to the nerfs

[lethal onyx]

Wow that sounds awesome!

I would really want that then myself. That'd be cool.

Unfortunate that's unique equipped. Imagine having two of those things lol

[warm crag]

(its really not that good)

[lethal onyx]

Like imagine having two of those things and then the effect happens on an enemy player in PvP that would be insane

[celest sierra]

Arnt our bis Weps rn Claymore and Wildhammee from Grim batol?

[deep hare]

its real i checked

[wanton cliff]

Wcl change , furys still doing same job + nerfs

[warm crag]

what the fuck man

[crisp prism]

i mean it dropped to a fresh 80 dk so

anything is good 😄

[warm crag]

our bis weps are a crafted mythic wep and any mythic ilvl mainhand you can get your hands on

[celest sierra]

Crafted mythic weps only go up to 636 correct ?

[warm crag]

ye

[lethal onyx]

Wow, Warrior repeatedly getting nerfed sucks definitely.

At least they're minor nerfs.

Meanwhile, is n't Shadow priest really struggling right now with how their AOE and cooldowns work?

[deep hare]

i hope so 🙏

[eternal sundial]

Fuck SP 👎

[tulip swallow]

Wizards deserve to be on bottom

[crisp prism]

thats a design issue tho

[warm crag]

sp rolled me in grim batol

[crisp prism]

warrior is basically number tuning

[deep hare]

wouldnt have happened if they didnt kill fury and make it drop 20 spots on the charts

[lethal onyx]

I'm really looking forward to dusting off my Druid once they eventually overtune balanced Druid and make it insane, that will be entertaining.

I was actually going into this expansion wanting to play Druid for balance and then I saw that it was like dumpster tier, point that the wow head balance druid class guide author was stating how bad of a situation Druid was in for balance.

[celest sierra]

Shadowpriest is like Enhance , Blizz has no idea wtf they wanna do with them lmao . Anyways I still say they should just make Reckless its own talent and make AM another talent to take below reckless

[warm crag]

true!

[eternal sundial]

I'm really looking forward to dusting off my Druid once they eventually overtune balanced Druid and make it insane, that will be entertaining.

I was actually going into this expansion wanting to play Druid for balance and then I saw that it was like dumpster tier, point that the wow head balance druid class guide author was stating how bad of a situation Druid was in for balance.

[lethal onyx]

Just like rock and roll Fury will never die!

[deep hare]

balance is already pretty good its just not mage so why would you play it

[lethal onyx]

But what if want be chicken 🐔

[deep hare]

then blizz buffing balance has nothing to do with your reason for playing it

go be chicken now

[lethal onyx]

Bagawk!

[eternal sundial]

Then ur going into my kebab

[crisp prism]

if they dont do something that target cap nerf might put a last nail in the coffin tho

[lethal onyx]

Also I play on Moon guard so being a druid on Moon guard kind of leads into some assumptions you know....

[deep hare]

tettles famous wowhead balance druid class guide author 🧎‍♂️

[deep hare]

being an anything on moonguard leads to suspicions my friend you arent safe

[celest sierra]

Replace depth of insanity or unbridled forocity with AM and have Reckless stand on its on . Those two nodes basically do what AM does in a sense

Let us take AM as a power up to Reckless

[warm crag]

you are spitting straight garbage 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

die AM die

[deep hare]

idk i kinda like AM sometimes i wake up before noon and i feel productive and responsible

[warm crag]

we should replace AM with PM real

[celest sierra]

Poor management ? - all ur abilities cost double the rage amount ?

[lethal onyx]

We will really need to wait and see if the target cap Nerf does anything massive. Obviously it does hit quite hard having the cap be changed.

Warrior doesn't really bring much utility from what I've seen reading online outside of its two shouts and the stuns.

So all it really brings is damage so nerfing that hits it quite hard.

I feel if they're going to Nerf the damage they need to buff utility somehow to make it more enticing to bring a warrior.

[crisp prism]

Fury is most fluid when it has cooldown cheats , ever since eli trinket without AM it kinda feels clunky

[warm crag]

you say this and then you get 1 mechanic and you instantly want to delve off the platform

[deep hare]

warrior doesnt bring much utlity except for its utility well said

[celest sierra]

😂😂😂

[lethal onyx]

I mean that the utility that it brings is not enough to warrant it being brought for something in comparison to another class that deals the same or more damage because most other classes have more utility

[meager void]

heyo is anyone else having trouble with the wcl replays on Queen Ansurek?

[deep hare]

i mean ur never taking any class for utility in relevant content utility aint killing the mobs

[lethal onyx]

Like retribution Paladin versus Fury Warrior if Fury Warriors damage is getting nerfed there's no reason to bring a fury Warrior over a retribution Paladin because of all of the utility the retribution Paladin brings.

[trail bane]

yes, everyone i would assume

[crisp prism]

what kind of utility you are talking about ? having a cr or lust wont compensate that 400k overall gap

on dungeon overall

you just take ret pala instead

[meager void]

I was doing some raid analysis and all the raid is showing bunched up on the top right

[crisp prism]

both dam and utility

[celest sierra]

Honestly crazy that warrior isn’t a lust class lmao

[deep hare]

good example ret has insane utility right now and as we can see so many groups are playing ret Chatting

[crisp prism]

i dont really mind war having no lust

its not like that lust will compensate current overall gaps

[tulip swallow]

I mean yeah it would have been nice if they didn't fuck our dungeon damage for no reason

[warm crag]

imma be real with you ppl complained for years about no shockwave now warr has shockwave and people say warr has no util still

why would lust be any different

[meager void]

preach

we could get fucking slappy hands and AMS

[rich jasper]

I'm REALLY glad we can play shockwave now, has been my complaint for years but

[tulip swallow]

but not having res or lust or dispel is a tough sell

[deep hare]

utility is the dead horse people love to beat when they look for some magic fix to their spec of choice

[lethal onyx]

I'm thinking that they need to change how some of the abilities work.

For example, battle show is a staple 5% more damage, whatever for an hour cool

Now this is just me spitballing this is not thought out properly so this is either a super op or s*** because it f**** up the warrior rotation.

What if they change battleshout to be a 15-second long buff, increases damage done by 5% haste by 5% critical strike chance 5%

Has a 15 second cooldown.

[mossy fox]

shockwave is so good

[rich jasper]

continuous nerfs just feel so bad

[meager void]

and people would still complain about not having a good toolkit (w/o using half of it)

[crisp prism]

shockwave is good

[warm crag]

extended range shockwave is outrageous

only thing i regret is that we cant play the hero talent that reduces its cd further

[rich jasper]

we do still have a melee range kick tho

[deep hare]

skyhold makes me thankful that blizzard dont listen to most ideas from the community

[celest sierra]

GIVE FURY A RANGE AXE THROWING SPEC

[mossy fox]

yeah rumbling earth is goated

[eternal sundial]

Cry about it

[trail bane]

Those things have defintely been reasons to get invited to m+.

And yea yea Blizzard doesnt balance around m+ and whatever. But its still a part of the game.

Everyone and their aunt has stuns. Everyone and their aunt has raid buffs.

Not everyone has:

• Knockbacks
• Knockups
• Lust
• CR
• Externals that remove snares/roots
• Externals that redirect aggro

So if two specs have the same dps, and one of them only brings stuns and raidbuffs and the other one brings that + anything on the list i mentioned. The later one gets invited.

[rich jasper]

I am

[eternal sundial]

Most warriors dont kick anyways

[lethal onyx]

Another s***** example off the top of my head was what if Shockwave debuffed the enemy and made them deal 7% less damage or something like that for x amount of time.

[warm crag]

surely we play colossus soon

[deep hare]

be honest did you just want to flex that you knew the name of the talent node was rumbling earth

[austere siren]

Can you play dual 1h with fury? How much dps do you lose?

[warm crag]

you lose a very significant chunk of dps but it is still fine unless you are planning to push bleeding edge content

[meager void]

not everyone has leap, noone has Spell Reflect every 25s, etc etc etc

[crisp prism]

Lets say you get a misdirect , lust and a cr

[trail bane]

What in gods name is Leap going to do?

[crisp prism]

and ret pala has cr , immunity aura

[celest sierra]

H leap is the greatest spell in the game

[crisp prism]

i'll still invite ret pala cuz the damage gap

[deep hare]

immunity aura wtf applying an immunity to my entire group

[trail bane]

read the part where i say the damage is equal.

[crisp prism]

i mean

immunity and aura

dev aura

[lethal onyx]

I think it would be neat if Warriors had a Battle cry type thing that was. You know a 15-second long buff or something like that and it increased the amount of healing you received by 15%.

Would be amazing for those clutch moments where everyone in the raid or mythic dungeon are taking large amounts of damage.

[tulip swallow]

damage is ultimately temporary unless you're a mage

tuning comes and goes

[crisp prism]

yeah but it isnt

you should ask for damage first

[trail bane]

We had dmg

[celest sierra]

#makefurymageagain

[crisp prism]

as you said

had

[trail bane]

They are trying to make the dmg on par with other classes

[crisp prism]

now dont

[meager void]

nothing, you must be right. H Leap serves no purpose.

[tulip swallow]

when we're shit next raid because they have different fight design damage will go up

because they only care and balance around raid

[trail bane]

My argument, and others arguments, is that having fury dmg be HIGHER than ret pally is fine. Because ret pally has other tools that you invite them for. Fury doesnt.

[celest sierra]

H leap is the greatest defensive in the game . The amount of time that ability saved my ass

[copper patio]

people will still type that rogues have insane utility and warriors need that to be in the meta 🥲

no, we need damage

[deep hare]

the best utility is killing the bad guys 5sec faster because you do more dps

being dead is kind of like a perma stun and silence

[crisp prism]

Well yes we kinda saying the same thing but the issue is outside of the weird boss design they did in this raid we werent really gapping anyone in other group content

[copper patio]

imagine spending combo points on a kidney shot

[crisp prism]

we had damage

and we are tanky

[lethal onyx]

No, honestly there's a lot of s*** that they could do that thematically would make sense for warriors that would give it utility.

Like shout of caution, reduces AOE damage taken by 20%, directs damage by 5%, 15 second long buff 1 minute cooldown.

S*** would be dope.

[crisp prism]

now damage is gone

[warm crag]

this would be good and not broken yes

[meager void]

Demo shout?

lol

[deep hare]

S would be dope.

[rich jasper]

when do we talk about the century old threat formula that blizz still uses for fury?

[copper patio]

shout of 'yo watch out'

[tulip swallow]

Having more utility is a strict positive. Blizzard doesn't balance damage around utility, except in the specific case of aug and only because they ruined the game for half an expansion

[lethal onyx]

Hey man, I haven't played Warrior ever before. I'm just pulling s*** out of my ass. I'm sitting in my car eating some Tim Hortons before I head into work

[crisp prism]

i think they still are tbh 😄

[warm crag]

this is just zephyr but raid wide and a dr ontop and it lasts longer and its cd is lower

[celest sierra]

What if they made warrior a straight up shouting class . All our abilities are a shout of some sort that does soemthing

[meager void]

AugWarrior

[celest sierra]

Shout of caution
Battle shout
Lust shout
Rallying cry
Damage shout
Lmao

Run away shout

[meager void]

MasterSergeant Hero Spec

[crisp prism]

anyways frost dk looks strong and seems like immune to nerfs let the gearing from scratch begin

[rich jasper]

battle ress shout - shout an ally's soul back into it's body

[deep hare]

they should give warrior a new stance that increases your damage by 10% while using a shield and increases your block chance but reduces your armor and threat generated and gives you increased rage generation on auto attacks

[celest sierra]

Change our spec to Drill Instructor

[lethal onyx]

I tried frostyk. It was just a bit much for my brain to handle correctly timing the amount of runes and runic power. I would need every 45 seconds for pillora Frost obliteration windows

[celest sierra]

Demoralizing shout - enemies get demoralized dealing 10% less damage and take 20% increased damage

[lethal onyx]

Because while fun if you screw up the obliteration window, your DPS is absolute dumpster.

[idle ember]

the mere thought of gearing an alt from scratch in this expac is terrifying

[long prairie]

and call it gladiator

[deep hare]

good idea

[forest owl]

been gone for a few hours and i am disappointed...i was expecting another round of nerfs before i got back

[long prairie]

we are on something

[trail bane]

spam delves, fun fun fun

[lethal onyx]

Maradox it's actually not. I got my pally into 604 item level and did not want to do regular raids or mythic stuff so I started leveling hunter and then I got back to 607 item level and now I'm doing a warrior.

[trail bane]

also, you probably have a bunch of warbound items you could use

[warm crag]

you get a crest cost reduction if your main is fully geared no?

[celest sierra]

Yup

[long prairie]

yes

[warm crag]

p nice

[copper patio]

Tinnitus - your shouts leave the target with a rumbling noise which has a chance to cause them to lose their balance and be knocked down for 2s

[crisp prism]

who said its an alt my warrior is becoming my alt

its too depressing to play my warrior atm

[trail bane]

if you have equipped full 606 you get crest cost reduction on carved crests, if you have equipped full 619 you get runed, full 639 you get gilded

[lethal onyx]

The warbound items plus item level 564 greens from the auction house should easily get you into looking for raid. Plus the two guaranteed 587 loot from the two epic chests week and depending on your class and spec doing a tier VII slowly on a bountiful delve you should be able to do that and then you got a 603 item level piece of loot

[celest sierra]

Offensive shout - your enemies get enraged , causing them to take 20% increased damage

[deep hare]

offensive shout - you get chat muted for 1 week and an infraction on your account

[lethal onyx]

Offensive shout 90% chance to get banned for a week 10% chance to enrage the enemy and cause him to take 2,000% more damage.

[celest sierra]

Make warriors great again shout - Blizzard ignores the warrior community outcry and continues to nerf them

[lethal onyx]

And the effect stacks. So you just bring 20 Warriors into the mythic raid and then you have them all use it and then you have everyone else just delete the boss

[deep hare]

ignoring warrior 'outcry' is perhaps the only good decision blizz consistently make

[copper patio]

Outcry - For 20s you ignore the last 4 hotfixes

[celest sierra]

I would love to see warriors in a position where u can have all warrior dps for a raid like they did in shadowlands with all shadowpriest and or convo king boomkins

[trail bane]

The thing we need the most is

Distracting Shout
Let out a bone-shaking shout at enemies in a cone in front of you, increasing the duration of crowd controls that affect them by 50% in the next 10 sec.

Not only would that give us nice utility. It would also take away something that evokers do exclusively. Win/Win.

[sick jungle]

anyone know why when simming for culminating blas it's telling me to just go with all of the same colour gems in my other slots?

[deep hare]

i would invite so many more warriors to my m+ groups if they had oppressing roar with a different name

[sick jungle]

did I sim wrong

[celest sierra]

Disarming shout- silences enemies around you for 2 seconds

[dire badge]

utility lmao

[quaint dove]

Can you still upgrade off-hand for just valorstones if you have a 636 crafted weapon?

[eternal sundial]

2

Lol

[copper patio]

yes

[cerulean gyro]

Yes

[quaint dove]

Struggling to do it can someone help

[warm crag]

close your game

reopen it

[cerulean gyro]

^

[warm crag]

then you should be able to

[proven hornet]

Disarming shout - type in chat "fuck i forgot to repair my main hand is red"

[warm crag]

dont ask me why

[deep hare]

why does it work like that spongie

[warm crag]

Grrr!!!!

[cerulean gyro]

maybe a rl also works?
didnt try

[celest sierra]

Give the order - a battle shout that signals ur party members to charge the enemy (allows party members to use charge (1x) times

[warm crag]

doesnt

being disconnected and reconnecting without closing the game also doesnt work

we have the data on this

[cerulean gyro]

Weirdge

so many bugs
did anyone else experience the grim batol bug? where the boss literally despawns as it is killed?

bricked my +9 key 😭

[sleek badge]

Is DKF fun to play ? What the closest spec to fury gameplay ?

[celest sierra]

Oh oh oh here’s a good one - Defeaning shout- reduce the aggro range of enemies by 5 yards (basically a mind soothe )

[trail bane]

Blizzard would screw it up, making you have to walk into aggro range to reach the enemies

[copper patio]

so we still coping that more util will change anything

[celest sierra]

LMAO 🤣

[trail bane]

No, we are anti-coping that if they manage to balance the game so we deal the same dmg as everyone else then we need more util to get invited. Since doing equal dmg isnt enough if you have less util.

[sick jungle]

does simming not account for the culminating blasphemite? or am I simming wrong

[golden hare]

did you tick replace all gems and enchants

[swift citrus]

Guys, is Thane m+ build default one or?

[sick jungle]

replace existing gems/ench right

[celest sierra]

GIVE STORM BOLT AND EXECUTE . Execute enemies struck by storm bolt at 3% health . I mean jeez we throwing thors hammer at someone’s face u would think that would be a kill shot

[swift citrus]

Do we play slayer when we need more boss dmg?

[sick jungle]

oooo i didn't realize you had to click always use lol

I just figured it would sim for it

k ty i'll test

[oblique trail]

Pick the movespeed gem

[fading bane]

Thane is not viable

[oblique trail]

Trust

[fading bane]

Slayer just better

[copper patio]

i think storm bolt moves too fast, kinda scary

[lament hinge]

storm bolt should deal that increased damage to targets that are immune to stun

[oblique trail]

The crit gem is basically cosmetic with how little it gives you

[trail bane]

Might as well now, since our job is further entrenched into popping our cds on adds and then running around in a circle hitting the boss with a wet noodle until its time to pop cds on adds again.

[golden hare]

omg banger pfp honey love that

[velvet obsidian]

Real. Having a hard time blinking out of it sometimes.

[oblique trail]

I think you should go outside sometime because this amount of dooming is genuinely unhealthy for you and your hairline

[trail bane]

Jokes on you, my hair is long gone and im already unhealthy

Take that libs

[oblique trail]

Makes a lot of sense now

[ember apex]

DColon

[iron portal]

Used to be a thing

[oblique trail]

thank you honey you too

[meager void]

Sensible takes ofc

[sick jungle]

[granite glade]

what are the odds there's actually some reworking planned, instead of just nerfs-just-because

[oblique trail]

The crit gem effectively gives you 1.006% more crit damage

or however you format it

[meager void]

And now someone asking for rework

[oblique trail]

I'm bad at math

[meager void]

fml

[trail bane]

How much does the speed gem give?

[fading bane]

id rather have a warrior rework than a buff

[oblique trail]

2% move speed per

[trail bane]

Yea but in dmg

I can get from monster to monster just fine

[meager void]

Rework into fucking what...

[oblique trail]

The increased movespeed is more for survivability and mechanics being easier to dodge

You can't really quantify that

[ember apex]

the rework we were promised

[trail bane]

So if a person doesnt have problems dodging mechanics, speed gem is kinda useless no?

Better to take a 0.5% dps increase

[granite glade]

yeah surely they're not just nerfing for no reason, because none of their devs actually play the game, there has to be something else coming

[lament hinge]

yeh long time ago was 400% increased dmg vs stun immune

[oblique trail]

Go for it, I'd rather just have the increased movespeed than 0.whatever increase it is

[meager void]

0.15% crit

per gem

[oblique trail]

Yes I know the increase per gem

[trail bane]

the gentleman knows, hes talking about the raw dps increase

[fading bane]

4x 0.15 = Banezi's number

[warm crag]

0.6?

[oblique trail]

why would you share my phone number like this

[warm crag]

1.6 crit damage?

outrageous

[dire badge]

sorry you don’t understand the math woyer player

[dire badge]

[oblique trail]

Also for what it's worth, for me it's barely a 0.2% increase to force the crit gem AND use 4 different coloured gems

[chrome plover]

speed gem is bis

every day of the week

[long prairie]

warrior goes zoom

[errant vessel]

would you guys take mark or shard

[oblique trail]

Shard technically is better since it gives you more mastery assuming you've killed anything

[errant vessel]

what about avoidance proc mark

[oblique trail]

Mark ig? Assuming they're both same track

[swift citrus]

So, only slayer m+ build?

[errant vessel]

traded it away considering it's such a tiny increase on ST only

[fading bane]

there is a Thane build on wowhead

Slayer is ust better

[errant vessel]

like 1.3k st dps increase

[sharp cargo]

im feeling like most of my CDs are unalligned all the time, should i just hold the bladestorm? or pop it whenever it goes

[oblique trail]

Yeah I mean I wouldn't really worry much personally if you already have one of them

[fading bane]

if i had option between mark or shard

id pick shard prob

im only playing fury on add fights

anyway

[errant vessel]

ye would feel bad not giving mark to a pala

[fading bane]

so it gets extra use

[errant vessel]

just for the avoidance part

[fading bane]

but ye if i have one already and my homie needs the other

ill trade it

over the miniscule diff

[errant vessel]

was a pug

[fading bane]

then id keep it

for the tiny gain

[oblique trail]

Deattu truly a bad person..

The pug would then be subjected to 15+ more runs to get it

(this does not matter to me)

[swift citrus]

Are all wowhead builds up to date or they are before the nerfs?

[oblique trail]

They are up to date

[fading bane]

the pug probably did negative overall dmg

and ruined my day

[swift citrus]

I am using wowhead builds only

[oblique trail]

Nerfs wont be changing them until the Anniversary patch, where AM might become the pick for keys

[swift citrus]

Good, thank you ❤️

[errant vessel]

tbf he did untime the key

[fading bane]

my point proven

[errant vessel]

but ye

[fading bane]

just get transmitter and u dont have to worry about either

lifehack

[errant vessel]

I really hope it drops hc

and they give me

esp the last part

[exotic turtle]

So, I’ve been fury for years now… seriously thinking about rolling arms… fury feels dog right now, especially single target, and we are right at the bottom of the dps leaderboard chart? And arms is close to top! So what’s everybody’s thoughts on how fury is performing rn in raids?

We are getting nerfed to the ground

[errant vessel]

we're doing decent and I'm personally excited for AM to be viable

[exotic turtle]

I need an excuse to stay fury please! 🤣

[errant vessel]

we're not the worst by any means

[cunning sentinel]

Just play in a bad guild and you will always be top. My life

[dark frost]

Go look at overalls for 10s and see the disparity between our highest damage and enhanc/mage/fdk

[oblique trail]

Fury is doing really well in raid though

[exotic turtle]

Looool

[oblique trail]

Arms is just better for ST fights

[ember apex]

my prob is the exact opposite im the worst player in my guild 😭

[errant vessel]

then compare us to all the other specs afterwards

[exotic turtle]

I mean I can understand the air nerf… but a week after they gave us a FLAT 3 or 4% damage nerf amongst ALL abilities?

Like why

Our single target sucked in the first place

Why make it worse

AOE*

[long prairie]

because some war fucked the dev's wife

there is no other viable options

[exotic turtle]

LOOOL well that would send anybody off the rails tbh

Hopefully they give us some buffs back, after realising they’ve dicked on us too bad

[meager void]

the tuning is coming in 1 month tho, nothing has changed atm

[exotic turtle]

They already tuned us

[burnt kelp]

HD T2 in one month

[worldly thunder]

is it better to whirlwind when there's a ton of mobs or just normal rapmage/cb proc ?

[ember apex]

🫡

[worldly thunder]

or just ww spam

[nocturne dragon]

never WW spam

[burnt kelp]

do you know what meat cleaver is

[nocturne dragon]

WW just used to enable your ST become Cleave

[exotic turtle]

Aoe spec you want to whirlwind once, and then use 4 single target abilities

[exotic turtle]

Then again whirlwind once

[worldly thunder]

ok thx

[nocturne dragon]

Because Blizz Dev Hate warriors? that is the easiest answer I could think of.

[forest owl]

declined for the pink and red class

[vital sonnet]

Blizz needs to give us a CoF 2.0 that affects reck, Ava, bs, of, roar and spear at the same time

[errant vessel]

people instadecline people with untimed keys

[vital sonnet]

Required class: warrior too

[errant vessel]

or ignore

[ember apex]

the problem is that it's not just the nerfs now. when we were shit dps in dragonflight how many CONSECUTIVE patch notes did we either get 1 line OR no mention. like almost completely ignored the entire expansion (including no rework).

and then when we are finally good (at a very specific niche of burst AoE) we get nerfed into the dirt multiple times.

as if they finally found the tuning knobs for fury while completely ignoring us for basically 2 expacs

[forest owl]

ye that 1 untimed 10sv from week 1 should just delete game at this point i guess

[errant vessel]

gear new warr alt and hope you don't untime any keys along the way

repeat process until full timed 10s/11s

[exotic turtle]

For anybody speccing arms for ST fights, do you have another set of gear ready for switch? With ton of crit? Or do you just arms in your fury gear?

[forest owl]

😅

[dusty cove]

how long is it okay to hold BS for? In m+, comes up at weird times

[sick jungle]

guys i fucked up

i fucked with my camera zoom

and now it's fucking all the way in

and the console command ain't doing shit

[long prairie]

cd on cd

[sick jungle]

/console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 3.5

[exotic turtle]

Send it! Unless avatar and reck are 10 seconds away

[sick jungle]

this shit does nothing

[nimble kraken]

Blade storm doesn’t have a dot like your other big buttons. Just rip it if the mobs will last past 3 seconds

[sick jungle]

help pls i beg i'm blind like this

[vital sonnet]

Check your settings perhaps

[nimble kraken]

Can push it back for some loss of control mechanics if you want the immunity

[vital sonnet]

I had the same issue

[sick jungle]

there's nothing about camera zoom in settings

[vital sonnet]

I remember finding some slider that was breaking my shit in some options menu

Probably an add-on one

[exotic turtle]

Try /reload

[sick jungle]

no dice i've restarted too

[nimble kraken]

Had a NW key where the final boss went to send me downstairs and I think because I was in blade storm he spat me back on the ground.

Not bad except for the 1 minute debuff that will kill you if you don’t kill the bonus add…

[vital sonnet]

Got advanced interface options?

[sick jungle]

nvm I figured it out, the command I googled was old, it's been limited to 2.6

thanks google and thank you guys for trying to help

[low folio]

so was culling cyclone just way better than brutal finish in the hero talents for slayer since only culling cyclone is getting nerfed

[dusty cove]

noted, thank you

Is it just me or are we ass on bosses in M+?

or maybe I should stop compairing to Arcane mages

[cerulean gyro]

We're ait on ST

[stiff barn]

For st yes

[edgy widget]

lowest ST dps comparing to highest, yeah might be a problem there

[cerulean gyro]

hahaa

[low folio]

@stiff barn what about aoe

[dusty cove]

right haha

[cerulean gyro]

Archi, what do you think of the recent PTR patch notes?

[stiff barn]

Brutal finish is better for aoe

[cerulean gyro]

I need an adults opinion

[low folio]

wait so why did they nerf the single target talent

i guess idc because i only really like playing M+ but it seems strange

[meager void]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[cerulean gyro]

Oh nice, i'm blind
Cheers mate

AM Fury?

Anger Management?

[long prairie]

yes

[hybrid summit]

What would an AOE/M+ AM build look like for talents?

[sullen dove]

everything you already use in m+ and swap ra to am

if u have vicious contempt maybe not that but I don’t think that’s included in the base wowhead m+ build

[hybrid summit]

We wouldn't take any of the AM follow on talents?

[sullen dove]

eh I mean potential for UF but it still kinda sucks

but am’s whole deal is more reck good so maybe it’ll win out

[runic violet]

Look at these brown people trying to cope

reroll like me

No future for warriors 😢

[hasty tide]

Gonna give Aug a try, I'm ready to be treated like a first class citizen

[warm crag]

we mourn the departure of dysfunc.

[eager thorn]

Do we

[hasty tide]

Got em

[summer quail]

What's wrong with you?

[hasty tide]

So, so much

[verbal rivet]

FDK or 34 APM dev Evoker

The real questions

[cunning sentinel]

My 2 current max lvl chars are a war and aug, being bottom is a lifestyle choice

[crude shale]

Greetings zug brothers and sisters!

[floral cipher]

mythic rashanan, thoughts?

[eager thorn]

rash is st why would you take imp ww

[fast mural]

50% of the boss is execute so surey you would spec execute talents

[minor kindle]

Just go Arms for Rash and enjoy spam execute

[quiet geyser]

Even if you are on add duty, the adds dont typically live long enough to actually get 4 rotational abilities out. Also, if you have titanic rage talented, you still get the 2 stacks of whirlwind buff even without having improved WW talented, which is usually enough on its own

[sullen dove]

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