fury

[trail tendon]

fury has been like underneath arms for so long now

[chrome plover]

[cedar crane]

trouble is, once you've tasted the fury, everything else feels so slow 😦

[south kayak]

do you want to be underneath me

[chrome plover]

fuck no

[south kayak]

LMAO

[trail tendon]

yeah for real

what is happening LOL

[unreal pewter]

Remember back then in Vanilla when fury warriors were OP? Yea that's why... can't have the same spec perform good after 20 years

[upbeat cedar]

schizo theory ^

[cedar crane]

pepperidge farm members....not

[trail tendon]

vanilla fury was so busted blizz has feared buffing them ever since

feelsbad

[south kayak]

man the people tuning weren't alive at that point

[cedar crane]

They fear the Zug Zug

[upbeat cedar]

both arms and fury have had their times in the sun

[cedar crane]

We we're born into it, moulded by it...

[trail tendon]

arms eventually gets to a point where they're a higher tier spec in terms of ranking on WCL

right now arms is trucking in raid

and fury is far better in m+

arms in m+ is like 23/26 LOL

[unreal pewter]

Also Prot was the only viable tank... So go figure out why prot has never been on top (or was on top for a very short time) ever since

[trail tendon]

legion prot was disgusting

so good dude

[cedar crane]

legion was like 8 years ago btw...

[trail tendon]

damn.

[unreal pewter]

good old times

[trail tendon]

wtf is happening

[cedar crane]

makes me feel old

[trail tendon]

legion felt like it was 3 years ago

[cedar crane]

yeah, Covid time skip lol

[trail tendon]

trueee

[unreal pewter]

I remember eating felclaws from Kil'jaeden mythin taking no damage

[trail tendon]

prot warrior, bear, veng DH are all top tanks right now

[unreal pewter]

while other tanks getting deleted

[trail tendon]

LOL yeah that was amazing

the only spec i gave a shit about getting mage tower for was prot warr

it was so fun to play

[cedar crane]

Its laughable they call these changes a buff to Fury ST when its actually a nerf

what are they doing at warrior dev hq

[trail tendon]

yeah the opportunist and cyclone nerfs are lame

[unreal pewter]

And having to actually turn my back to Argus so I don't acidentally not die doing some random crit blovk

[trail tendon]

but the buffs to raging blow and bt are nice

[cedar crane]

not even though, it only buffs the un-enraged version which is used like once or twice before enraging and the skills change.

[glad plover]

I highly suspect "class devs" are thing of the past, they probably have one class team that takes care of class balance that would explain a lot of things.

[trail tendon]

oh it doesnt count for the enraged versions"?

thats kinda stupid

[cedar crane]

Nope LOL

[vocal sorrel]

Even if brew is Z tier. Will still play drunken panda

[cedar crane]

its so stupid

[trail tendon]

nevermind, wtf is this shit

cmon blizz i know you're reading this chat right now

[cedar crane]

its so backwards LOL

it completely negates our mastery, we gain dmg from being enraged...

like wtaf

[glad plover]

they want to improve AM builds, and this changes will surly do that, how much that is the question

again one simply 25% buff to rampage, and we are again in good spot gameplay and balance wise

[fossil hull]

fury is dog shit in m+ in anything mor ethan 7, nothing dies in our burst and we are wet noodles after the 1 pump chump is done

[cedar crane]

i get it but why only buff the unenraged version, it just seems backwards

[fossil hull]

we get wrecked by 80% of the classes

in higher keys

[cedar crane]

like the time we spending using unenranged version is like 5%

if that

[trail tendon]

yeah im not saying fury is good, on WCL fury is low on the meters, but arms is 3rd from the bottom its even worse LOL

but arms warrior in raid is like 3rd top spec

6th now*

[glad plover]

As many told its going to happen regardless of our original state, Fury burst is super oppressive in lower level content, very weak in higher level content.

[trail tendon]

3rd in heroic tho

[unreal pewter]

You're best at being the worst... I'd say let's nerf fury by 10% because you're best at something

[cedar crane]

Thats why thery kneejerk nerfed, Furys burst is insanely strong at the begining of an expac but will fall off as others get gear/tier sets

most of the nerfs were pre-m+

[fathom valley]

I'm coping that they'll either revert the nerfs or give us other buffs

I'd be happy if they buff MT

The fact we are receiving nerfs when we're so low overall (even considering ovinax) is quite simply mindboggling

[unreal pewter]

It feels like the department that made the story of Shadowlands is now in charge of warrior balancing

[fossil hull]

they did nothing ot up our sustain or ST

only nerfed burst

now we are worst of both worlds

XD

[glad plover]

Still makes 0 sense, Rogues single target burst literally can solo adds at 2nd mythic boss, yet nobody expects that to be nerfed, because "that is how class works" if Fury AOE burst was a problem, that is product of raid design, we are simply getting nerfed because this Raid is full of small adds we can oblitarate with our CDs

[fathom valley]

Meanwhile fire is just blasting

[runic violet]

U think this is the last nerf? think again

time to reroll

[cedar crane]

reroll to frost dk and then they get nerfed 😂

[fossil hull]

im just prot atm

its depressive being mainly m+ player

and trying arms or fury lol

[runic violet]

i gave up today

[glad plover]

Its stupid, retribution paladin has 80% of our "burst" every 30sec. Yet we are one getting nerfed for like 5th time

[patent tundra]

what does am fury mean?

[cedar crane]

and about 60x the utility

[cedar crane]

Anger management Fury

[iron portal]

@golden hare see we got buffed technically. in a way nobody expected

[sleek badge]

what does "now within <1% of RA" means ?

[unreal pewter]

I found solution to all our ST damage problems: Flip your monitor upside down and now you're magically #1 DPS!

[iron portal]

Less than 1% differnce

[cedar crane]

Now within one percent of Reckless Abbadon

[iron portal]

In terms of output

[sleek badge]

So AM ~= RA ?

[runic violet]

so... we are still in the same place

[plucky ice]

[cedar crane]

Pretty much

[plucky ice]

0.2% worse

lmaoo

expect nothing and got still disappointed

[bitter palm]

m+ buffs

am is back

[unreal pewter]

Now you have an option which type of worse you can be

[bitter palm]

anger management. perma cds

cds every pack

[cedar crane]

Now you can choose to suck at ST and AoE

[bitter palm]

xd

🪤

nice bait

[sleek badge]

Devs are dumbs af for real, even without talking about warrior. Check M+ Healers distribution. If you don't play sham you are not going to do any 11

[cedar crane]

56% of +10s are shaman healers last time i checked

[plucky ice]

did you expect any dev to play fury

[cedar crane]

lol

[cedar crane]

In this day and age, more likely to play Furry

[pearl crypt]

Vulpera gang

10/10 best allied race

Thank fuck we didnt get ogres or vrykul thatd be so stupid

[unreal pewter]

Back then when we didn't have Body type 1 and body type 2, warriors did good

[pearl crypt]

[runic cypress]

Miss me yet?

[cedar crane]

No

[plucky ice]

[unreal pewter]

Nah, you can be masculine fuck without being sexual predator

[prisma rose]

False

[cedar crane]

Wows Bill Cosby can stay away

[plucky ice]

is that the breast milk guy

[runic cypress]

He's the warrior guy

[plucky ice]

[runic cypress]

He actively kept paladins and shamans from succeeding while making sure warrior was on top

[cedar crane]

He also did the same with women

replace Paladin and shaman with Women and Warrior with Men and you're golden

[prisma rose]

Wtf

[tardy lark]

#fury not even once

[runic cypress]

I don't think he liked men on top tbh

[tardy lark]

[fathom valley]

Yeah I don't want to owe anything to a predator

[cedar crane]

Wrong type of top bro...

[fathom valley]

I don't say that we need to be the top tier class

[trail tendon]

i did some ST testing, and AM is like 100k dps below RA right now

[fathom valley]

But at least make us middle of the pack and not the absolute low in both specs

[trail tendon]

:(

[trail tendon]

100k-200k

[trail tendon]

i got like 715k dps from AM and i got like 880k dps on RA

[broken kindle]

so we got more nerfs I guess? KEKW

[cedar crane]

i think what most people are trying to say in essence, is it just feels BAD to press buttons as a fury warrior. you get no satisfaction from dmg.

[runic cypress]

It's legit making me depressed doing a 80 parse and only having like 800k st dps

[plucky ice]

only every 1.5min and lasts few seconds lmao

feelsgoodman

[chilly sapphire]

meanwhile frost or ret.

[trail tendon]

popped over to arms chat

[chrome plover]

then get a 98 parse instead

[trail tendon]

they're having a grand time

[tardy lark]

At least AM is getting buffed in ST

[trail tendon]

while we're malding about fury being poo

feelsbadman

[runic cypress]

I can't my depression is killing my motivation to do better

[nocturne dragon]

[runic cypress]

It's a never ending circle

[molten wing]

playing Fury is a IRL lesson on how to be a humble person without any wants or needs and just view life as it is and not how it should be , really makes you follow the steps of Buddha

[chrome plover]

unlucky

just ascend

[runic cypress]

I can't

I'm a sinner

There is no place for me in the kingdom of heaven

It's genuinely joever for me

I can't just reroll to something that plays better

I been maining my warrior since I made him in wrath

He has all the recipes and reputations

I just can't reroll

[unreal pewter]

welcome to the club of trueborn warriors

[raw nest]

fury was grossly overpowered in 2004

[trail tendon]

rep is account / warband wide now

[raw nest]

and here we are suffering in perpetuity in 2024

[molten wing]

you are making it a bigger deal than it is

[runic cypress]

Not all the rep from classic to df

[molten wing]

this has happened countless times from Wrath to here , it is what it is

[raw nest]

for the sins of our class from LITERALLY TWENTY YEARS AGO

[glad plover]

They just do not warriors to be played or good, I do not know why but it seems blizzard itself considers this class as "middle of the pack" and it will never be allowed to excede

[molten wing]

play the class you enjoy and do the best it can do

that's about it

[tardy lark]

[trail tendon]

yeah, some arent but oh well

just make another class, learn it have fun with it

[raw nest]

you could legally fuck blizzard's grudge against fury, that's how old it is

[trail tendon]

ezpz

[raw nest]

And just enjoy the fact that we're slated for more nerfs as a bottom 5 DPS 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

[prisma rose]

It goes till an extent, i mean, gl loving BM hunter and trying to join high keys

[runic cypress]

But what if the best it can do is just not good enough, I feel like a drag already being so low on the DPS except for dumb fights like brood and ansurek

[plucky ice]

multidollar company with professional devs

[glad plover]

While I agree with general sense of what you said, this is MMO with very exclusive and elitist community, class you play defines what you can or cant access in end game content, sadly that is how things are nowdays.

[trail tendon]

dude i love and hate that the fury channel is all of us malding and the arms chat is like hey guys, single target is so strong for us, high fives all around!

[raw nest]

currently a 75th percentile fury outperforms a 50th percentile fire mage, and 95th vs 75th, also we're getting nerfed more 🙂 🙂

[tardy lark]

Thank god rerolling is pretty easy

[prisma rose]

Playing a class that you enjoy yet make you be declined 100 times will make you stop liking it pretty fast

[raw nest]

this a thousand times

[nocturne relic]

we only doompost here

[trail tendon]

im with it

[raw nest]

I mained prot warr for all of SL and DF

and boy howdy it fucking sucked

[molten wing]

its a game problem at that point not a you problem. There were times like this before , for example getting a Warrior for Jaina back in BoD legit dogshit class there

[unreal pewter]

We arms players pretend to ignore fury nerfs that nerfed even arms ;_;

[raw nest]

I rerolled off just in time to get fucking remaed from top spec to bottom

[prisma rose]

My dk and ret gets invited at least 20x easier than my war on 9+ with lower ilvl and io

[runic cypress]

It's so bad that it killed all my enthusiasm for the future of this expac I'm thinking about quitting my guild and just pugging heroics as a tank

[trail tendon]

my friends i play wow with when i was like 17 and grey parsed (im 22 and purple parse now), don't want me tanking because they're holding onto me being bad like blizzard holds onto fury being a bottom tier spec

and i mained tf out of prot warr too i loved it

[chrome plover]

im enjoying fury and enjoying enhance 😭 im actually having a lot of fun this expansion so far 😭

[pale lava]

get new friends that aren't mentally disabled

[trail tendon]

true

[pale lava]

because that's turbo dent mentality

[tardy lark]

Yeah expansion is really good, balance kinda isn’t

[chrome plover]

I dont even think it's that bad but maybe I'm cooked

[golden hare]

the prophet 🙇‍♂️

[trail tendon]

fr bro, im forever in their brains dogshit no matter how much im proving to them im not anymore

[untold yacht]

When is this 11.05 coming?

[runic cypress]

Murder your friends (in wow of course) to show them a lesson

[trail tendon]

true

[tardy lark]

Enh ST is giga out of whack, fury paying for its burst sins, spriest giga useless, tank balance suddenly shifting with white swings in higher keys and so on

[pale lava]

that sounds like the kind of people you really wanna avoid tbh

[tardy lark]

There’s plenty of issues, but none that kill the game

[trail tendon]

do keep in mind a lot of the time they're joking, but if i do mess up they'll resort to saying im still bad like i was

[forest owl]

are we still waiting on more sims to see what the nerfs/buffs did? or is updates the final?

[tardy lark]

But I get the doom feeling of your middling class continually getting nerfed in stupid ways because burst has 0 setup and then see your performance in keys dip against classes that are getting buffed

[runic cypress]

Strangle(thorn) them when they least expect it

[trail tendon]

LOL

[tardy lark]

It’s just a design issue with fury sadly

[glad plover]

Idk, warriors just feel very out of place in current meta, overhaul of the class will surly be needed in next if not in this expansion, fury is basically same since BFA, and Arms was worse version of legion arms.

[tardy lark]

If you buff st, you buff aoe

If you nerf CDs you nerf ST

[trail tendon]

tru

[plucky ice]

tbh blizz can buff st without buffing burst aoe

[trail tendon]

also ture

[molten wing]

just add a tunning knob where you can buff fury and its abilities when they strike a single target

[tardy lark]

They can, and have been told how to

[trail tendon]

also also true

[lofty delta]

Just nerf BS and OF by like 39% and double rampage damage

[tardy lark]

They just refuse to seemingly

[lofty delta]

Ez

[tardy lark]

Suddenly you giga buff st

And aoe up to 5 targets

[pale lava]

nah for real, just find new people to play with because you won't grow as a player nor as a person with them around you

[lofty delta]

.> He caught me

[pale lava]

tune down meat cleaver, problem solved

[trail tendon]

they do need to rework the class tbh, the way the class is built isn't fitting well with current wow. Like how aagaard said, any nerf or buff will also affect the class in other ways due to how the spec is built

[tardy lark]

And then you have fury doing 0 outside of CDs which also feel bad

[trail tendon]

bro

fury with no CDs is awful

[tardy lark]

Like it’s just an issue with how the spec is designed

[trail tendon]

i do like 600k dps in like +8s

[pale lava]

I don't see a problem with fury doing big dps inside cds

[trail tendon]

and then i get bitched at by my tank for doing less damage than him

[lofty delta]

Bring anger management back I guess

[plucky ice]

tbh it's not rocket science you'd think they have ppl smart enough to balance a damn spec lmao

[tardy lark]

Love me some anecdotal evidence

[pale lava]

we also have the benefit of being able to retain most of our ST while having a very good burst damage profile in M+

so we would be in a good spot overall if the devs weren't clueless about tuning

[molten wing]

my most overalls on +9/+10s are around the 1.1m/1.3m but it depends on the dungeon

[trail tendon]

i gotchuuu

[tardy lark]

They have decently smart people telling them how to without getting paid, but that would mean the ones getting paid aren’t doing their job

[fiery hare]

When said st is lowest overall it doesnt mean too much kek

[molten wing]

but its nowhere near what fdk/ret can do but it is mostly the best i can pull

[trail tendon]

yeah but idk they're fun to game with idk

[runic cypress]

Blizzard just doesn't fucking care about warriors it's plainly clear. It's a garbage class for garbage people in their eyes

[pale lava]

what you're describing is dating a hot girl that is actually toxic but you enjoy having her around because

[trail tendon]

ever since our guild broke apart, we would band back together every other expansion and they'd still invite me too if they truly thought i was bad bad they would tell me to fuck off no? @pale lava

i havent raided with them since SL and now we're a group again raiding

[runic cypress]

They are keeping you around like a kings court keeps a fool around

For entertainment

[idle oriole]

Bros...

[unreal pewter]

Immagine we had such a passionate warrior dev as Warlocks had in MoP...

[trail tendon]

impossible

[tardy lark]

Bro MoP is 10 years ago lol

[trail tendon]

mop warrior was nuts

second wind = unkillable

[unreal pewter]

Stop making me feel old! ;_;

[tardy lark]

Class design was hella good in MoP all around

[trail tendon]

damn i was 13 when mop was out?

wtf

[tardy lark]

If everything is broken, nothing is

[trail tendon]

i was playing cataclysm private servers back in that day

[runic cypress]

I wonder if anyone who is doing class tuning actually plays wow at all. Remember how you just knew what people like Ghostcrawler and Ian used to play? Does anyone even know what or even if any of the current devs play

[plucky ice]

mop-wod was sad times like why they butchered so many specs, so some dev would have work to do lmao

[pearl crypt]

Critcake said it best that ranpage should be high prio

[trail tendon]

i mained frost dk in s3 of DF, wanted to go back to warr, and now frost dk is busted

cmonbruh poor timing

now i dont feel like making alts

im not much of an alt kind of guy

[pearl crypt]

And makensmg more consistent rather than giga nuke and then nothing

[unreal pewter]

going from Mop to WoD as Arms was brutal

[pearl crypt]

While still keeping WW ST cleaving

[fervent yoke]

U think DK will get nerfed lmao?

[unreal pewter]

It was like if you just suddenly woke up right now without any talents and specs

[pearl crypt]

It just seems such an obvious way to make fury feel good

[tardy lark]

Feel good is very subjective though

[manic gulch]

most people in blizz do not play the game

[trail tendon]

doubt it

[manic gulch]

and its very obvious from the things that make it in

[pearl crypt]

Yeah ik, still, how many ppl are out there who enjoy overcapping rage and not pressing rampage?

[manic gulch]

not just for class tuning but in general

[lost elbow]

They play.... With us

[unique frigate]

The nerfs/buffs are looking bad, we got any sims yet?

[pearl crypt]

Personally i think it's great for rampage to be no.1 prio ability regardless

With exception of big cds

[fervent yoke]

Fury has like 4-5 abilities how hard can it be to tune? Doesn’t need a rework just needs some adjustments.. starting to truly believe the warr devs don’t actually play warr

[tardy lark]

The update channel has some % changes

[manic gulch]

they made a raid where boss phases align with fury cds and then go pikachu face when fury does very good dmg

[pearl crypt]

Thats exactly my thinking lol

[tardy lark]

They might change as builds and apl changes might come

[pearl crypt]

Very simple. You have 3 builders and legit 1 and only spender

[manic gulch]

[pearl crypt]

Its so badic

Lyet they cant get it right

[thick fossil]

That would require someone to actually be a warrior only dev. It's most likely one to four people in charge of all class development.

[runic cypress]

Maybe they should hire more devs instead of more people doing the absolute worst and most unfunny YouTube shorts to ever be produced

[molten wing]

they have plenty of devs

they are working on 3 expansions at the same time after all

[pearl crypt]

That is true

[barren coral]

fury buffs on PTR look very good, but have they cancelled the aoe nerfs?

[molten wing]

nope

[unreal pewter]

"buffs" are actually a slight nerf

[pearl crypt]

Kek

[barren coral]

doubt it

25% is massive compared to w/e slayer received

[fading sky]

Blizzard plz make Unbridled fericity 20% again

or what ever it was 😛

[fading sky]

its nerf

[unreal pewter]

Check updates:
TLDR: Colossus buffed very slightly, Slayer moderately nerfed, Fury very minorly buffed.
Arms Slayer loses ~2.3%
Arms Colossus gains ~0.9%
Fury Slayer loses ~0.2%
AM Fury gains ~5% (now within <1% of RA)

[molten wing]

basically you are getting a 0.2% nerf on top of your aoe abilities being capped to 5 targets instead of 8

but AM is pretty close to RA now

well not capped but doing less dmg after the 5 target cap

[trail tendon]

i would say without the 5 target nerf, this change would be good

[runic cypress]

"HURR DURR FURY BUFF LOOKS INSANE GUYS"

[trail tendon]

but they're also getting their aoe cap nerfed

so its gonna suck

[fading sky]

HOW ABOUT RET ?

did they also get that ?

[molten wing]

ret is getting an indirect buff i believe

🙂

because they are changing some stuff in their class talent tree that they benefit from or something along those lines

[barren coral]

is this for ST or aoe, either way i find it hard to believe

[smoky vale]

you dont have to believe the math was done for you

[iron portal]

Well they needed it

[barren coral]

25% increased dmg on our highest usage skill results in a 0.2% dps nerf?

[unreal pewter]

The "massive buff" doesn't apply on the Crushing blow and bloodbath so

[barren coral]

oh thats why

[unreal pewter]

because Slayer got nerfed

[barren coral]

kinda stupid

[runic cypress]

"highest usage skills"

[bitter fable]

Only RB and BT

[barren coral]

since its just an upgraded version of the same skill

[runic cypress]

Have you ever actually played fury

[barren coral]

whats your problem?

[runic cypress]

You are

[barren coral]

let me fix that for you

[bitter fable]

It is but different spell ip s and values

[barren coral]

then that buff might aswell not exist, nevermind how stupid it is that we got any nerfs on the slayer tree at all

[bitter fable]

So unaffected by the changes

[runic cypress]

What a fucking Badpedal

[barren coral]

i would've understood the nerfs if the dmg increases applied to those spells aswell

[runic cypress]

No wonder warriors are considered dumb

[molten wing]

warr strong ]

[leaden spoke]

U rn

[unreal pewter]

AND the slayer nerf also nerfs Arms...

[barren coral]

arms is not real

[runic cypress]

Cope and seethe

[trail tendon]

yup and then the for the next 2 pulls you'll be doing like 1m dps if you get a lot of reap the storm and slayer strike procs feelsbadman

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[barren coral]

honestly just snapshot your dps meter to that one 10 pull that you bladestorm'd and never look at anything else until the dungeon is over

[trail tendon]

fury be like: giga damage! no damage... giga damage! no damage... (rinse n repeat)

kinda feels shitty to play right now ngl

[barren coral]

that itself is not shitty to play at all

[glacial leaf]

How the ptr change affect Thane ? it's still 20% below in ST ?

[barren coral]

just that overall damage is simply bad

[south kayak]

5 second pull

[barren coral]

the burst cycle is fun

[trail tendon]

@barren coral for you it may be fun

im not enjoying it too much

AM is nice because those bursts happen more frequently

[unreal pewter]

Is thane even a thing outside of Prot?

[jagged kernel]

Not really

[chrome plover]

ummm actually it's 30 seconds 🤓

[leaden spoke]

Me rn

[runic cypress]

Is just game why you have to be mad

[leaden spoke]

How am i mad you insulted the other geezer that was just asking questions lol

[molten wing]

just make sure you go in first before Ret can do anything

[thick fossil]

Math was already done, comes out to 0.9% nerf when switching to Anger management.

[molten wing]

its fine though we wiped 2 times on the first boss in City of Threads

and we left

[barren coral]

yeah ive found out it doesnt apply to upgraded RB/BT

[runic cypress]

He wasn't asking questions he deliberately implied that we got a buff because he never played fury before and considers Bloodthirst to be a main ability

[barren coral]

dont stress it i block dumbasses like these on sight

[runic cypress]

It's just infuriating arguing with people like that

[trail tendon]

@barren coral good man

[tardy lark]

Arguing over this is also pretty dumb

[trail tendon]

yenno what else is dumb

[tardy lark]

🤷‍♀️

[trail tendon]

i gotta be up in 5 hours

goodnight all LOL

[south kayak]

I can imagine Thane AM being really good in M+ in .5 (aside from the shit ST)

[jaunty ferry]

hey guuys 🙂 is it a safe choice to just choose my crafts based on wowhead?
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear#bis-items-raid
i was thinking about crafting bracers

[trail tendon]

i tested thane in beta, it was really fun, felt like i was playing prot all over again

[jaunty ferry]

or am i suppose to sim stuff like that

[glad plover]

I do not really think so, bladestorm is also affected by AM so I guess slayer is still going to be way to go

[south kayak]

are those AM buffs up on the PTR?

[tardy lark]

To some degree

[forest owl]

it seems my guilds BM hunter is more filled up on copium than me, saying there is still time for changes to come and that these changes are a step in the right direction

[tardy lark]

If you raid, 2h with ascension embellishment is the superior option

While 2 items with dusk/dawn thread is better in keys

[runic cypress]

BM are pumping hard right now on ST no copium there at all

[south kayak]

Too many desyncs tho, Thane can have Reck/Ravager on 30-40 seconds, which means a lot more thunder blast procs

[jaunty ferry]

i do raid, and i have the 2h craft and then i have another 2h that is 636 from raid.

[last pewter]

With the AM buff, is that going to put haste back higher in stat prio?

[jaunty ferry]

Its just i wondered if for my 2nd craft, the bracers made sense

[molten wing]

yeah the damage from the BM in the Ansurek mythic kill of Liquid was giga

[clever belfry]

still sims ass ST

[bitter fable]

Kinda they are bringing AM within <1% of RA so it's not as one sided anymore but wouldn't call it a major buff

[south kayak]

Well that's true but oh well

still a month into .5, hopefully thane gets buffed until then xdd

[copper patio]

AM should sim higher than RA, it gets hit harder by uptime requirements

[runic cypress]

It's doing well for prot so there's no reason to give it any attention

[tardy lark]

If you don’t have the embellishment that doubles the effect of ascension, then make those bracers yeah

[copper patio]

but it doesn't 🙂

[thick fossil]

Hopefully a lot of these ptr nerfs don't make it to live.

[south kayak]

Well, they still want it to be useful because people don't use it for fury

[teal pine]

How do ring crest discounts work? Do you have to have 2 higher ilvl rings to get free upgrades

[south kayak]

and they did buff it recently

[runic cypress]

See Colossus and how no one is really using it because AM does good for prot and Slayer does good for fury and arms

[tardy lark]

Yes

[clever belfry]

ya just like trinkets

[south kayak]

Prot does use Colossus though

[tardy lark]

You can cheese it though

[teal pine]

thanks

[tardy lark]

The redraft tech to get discounts

[runic cypress]

Yeah and so does arms, in very nieche numbers

[clever belfry]

crafter lore

is v cringe

[tardy lark]

Ye

[teal pine]

[tardy lark]

But very useful when gilded crests are so scarce

[clever belfry]

is it tho

cause crafting 636 ring not that useful

esp when you're rocking hc queen ring

[eternal sundial]

I mean sparks are bit useless

[eternal sundial]

Ok...

[tardy lark]

Long term maybe not. Short term it was very good for all the guys not rocking queen ring

[clever belfry]

maybe get queen ring

[tardy lark]

I wish I got prio on the cool items

[teal pine]

🫡

[clever belfry]

i didnt get sikran neck....

[tardy lark]

But enh got prio on neck and dh/tanks got prio on ring

[eternal sundial]

I have to to do normal for queen ring and sik neck

[molten wing]

i passed queen ring for the DHs they will probably benefit more from it , i'm a good guy

[eternal sundial]

Fuck item damage classes man

[tardy lark]

It’s just not that good for warrior numbers wise comparatively

[jaunty ferry]

okay, 1 more question, is there a reason as to why wowhead suggests vers/mast rather than hast/mast on crafts? Isnt haste/mast basically bis?

[tardy lark]

Yuh

[clever belfry]

I simmed that thrice
it was just better for me than them

[jaunty ferry]

Im quite low on haste atm so i was wondering whether its troll to go haste

[clever belfry]

rng

weird stats moment

[eternal sundial]

Just sim it for ur guy

[tardy lark]

Which stats to put on is gonna change with the rest of your gear. Send haste mastery or vers mastery and you’re good

[eternal sundial]

Add item to topgear and recraft it

[jaunty ferry]

yeah probably should, ty Aagard and smite down

[clever belfry]

Philiam smite down

[runic cypress]

I got prio on transmitter

[tardy lark]

Transmitter not cool item now is it

[runic cypress]

By the time I got one fury I was barely doing any good DMG since I only got it yesterday

[clever belfry]

I think i got transmitter week 1

[runic cypress]

It's the only one I got prio on so it's cool to me dammit

[clever belfry]

transmitter is really not that bad to use

[smoky vale]

?

[glad plover]

should not really be a problem, bladestorm slaps in AOE and I think if you are lucky you may use it multiple times on some packs

[eternal sundial]

i hate crushing blow empowered

[south kayak]

you got your wish phil

opportunist smited

[eternal sundial]

it doesnt fix the issue

[smoky vale]

hi phil :3

[south kayak]

I know

blizzard fixing issues?

i recommend to try enha

very satisfying

[warm crag]

You need to stop rolling people

[south kayak]

no u

[eternal sundial]

i only have 2 chars

war and shaman

[south kayak]

Enha I guess?

[clever belfry]

bluemanbad

[eternal sundial]

all 3

char is a giga rat so idrc

[south kayak]

same

I keep getting items i already have a better version of in delves

...

[forest owl]

i really hope there's more changes in the works for fury, if you look at the ptr notes right now, some specs have over double the notes than what the entire warrior class has combined xD

[fading sky]

Hear me out

What

[tardy axle]

im restoring crit haste items to swap to arms

[fading sky]

if they just buffed EXECUTE

for fury

adds sustained cleave

[clever belfry]

Next thing you're gonna say is unlimited jugg

[fading sky]

^_^

[south kayak]

buff execute by 50%

that's fair

[fading sky]

not rly, i was just thinking, most times we wont have cds with execute

like in m+ at least

[south kayak]

I wanna press execute as soon as it lights up

not when i have 3 marks

[fading sky]

exactly

SD = press imho

so either buff execute in gen or mby at least when SD procs add more dmg ?

[grave stone]

hi guys

why is blizzard hell bent on nerfing fury warriors

[runic cypress]

They hate warriors

[forest owl]

cause we did too much burst aoe on hc adds

[grave stone]

this is like what the 4 th or 5th nerf

[runic cypress]

They got bullied in school by a warrior

[south kayak]

fury warrior bullied a dev

[proper wigeon]

someone was abused in vanilla classic

[grave stone]

is there something i am missing ? or do they not see what fdks or shammies are doing in this raid

[runic cypress]

No one currently at blizzard played classic

[south kayak]

Well, the difference is that the notes we just got are for .5, in a month. Nerfs to enha or fdk would most likely be something immediate, not for next patch

[fervent yoke]

Warriors being op in classic when they rereleased classic gave us the rep for most op class ever and I guess people don’t understand this ain’t retail

[clever belfry]

sir
a 15th nerf has hit the fury warriors

[simple goblet]

Made this for my guild discord. Maybe you guys want to have a laugh aswell if not already made by somebody else

[grave stone]

i doubt any nerfs are coming immediate

if anything tuning will happen only in anniversary patch

[forest owl]

wait for it, 3% abilities nerf for the dks and fury gets nothing, the end 🤡

[warm crag]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[runic cypress]

But but
Fury gains 5%

[south kayak]

that doesn't make any sense

but ok

[warm crag]

Fury gains 5%

[runic cypress]

Fury gains 5%

[celest sierra]

So fury getting nerfed again but AM getting what looks like a buff ?

[runic cypress]

Fury gains 5%

[eternal sundial]

🛬

#2

[south kayak]

LMAO

[celest sierra]

So AM gunna be better then reckless abandonment ? Since it said the buffs won’t affect reckless

[eternal sundial]

i mean AM will be giga close

[runic cypress]

Close

[eternal sundial]

and there might be some talent changes that make it sim better at some point

[runic cypress]

But no cigar

[gusty trench]

blizzard trash

[warm crag]

good point mmm yes

[south kayak]

so true bestie

[humble root]

[grave stone]

i dont know how it doesnt make sense to u xd

[south kayak]

I am an idiot

maybe that's why

[subtle lagoon]

So glad I quit after DF S4 ended, I see the game is still a joke kek

[fading sky]

its not rly, fury is fine its just that

we went from rly good. ( NOT op or best) to mid / low

and we kindda feel that makes no sense 😄

[warm crag]

you're still broken for raid ye

[fading sky]

not according to logs 😄

[warm crag]

not many classes consistently get brought to raid twice

[junior carbon]

Also don’t look just at the spec

[fading sky]

but according to dmg profile yes

[warm crag]

logs don't explain the purpose of fury for the raid

[junior carbon]

The overall class is doing good we are the best tanks

[fading sky]

100%

our timers are rly good

[warm crag]

you should know that after the rashanan change

[fading sky]

so we do an important job on sev bosses

but lets be honest

when they buffed OF

we knew this would happen

we cant have both BIG bladestorm and big OF while doing good ST

[mighty swan]

We still have a mandatory spot for some bosses

And the last one is one of them

[verbal rivet]

I’d rather use a good spec to solve mechanics and not just have blizzard forget what Bladestorm says.

[steel shard]

You know echo only ran x2 warrior for last because rally

Fury boss dam is garbage

[modest heath]

guys if they nerf this maybe angermanagement gonna be viable 😄

[steel shard]

Rather run more frost dks

They where easily killing all the small adds without the second warr

It's not manditory

Fury is in a terrible state

Play arms

[warm crag]

lol

[jovial coral]

Yeah its true

Rally is insane

[fresh ivy]

yo, how do you guys sim fury?

[cedar crane]

Poorly

[fresh ivy]

feels like im not getting the correct results considering the bis trinkets on archon are simming way worse than mine

[runic cypress]

I don't sim because I don't wanna be more depressed

[steel shard]

You laugh but it is true

I asked him directly

[fresh ivy]

and a 610 pvp wep with symbiosis simming crazy better than a 626 wep

[modest heath]

isn't because the roots u had to blast

[fresh ivy]

is the embellishment so much stronger or is something off

[steel shard]

No

[runic cypress]

FDK and ret can blast them just fine

[steel shard]

The roots you just freedom etc

[modest heath]

and the adds on last platform

[steel shard]

Nope

Just for another rally

[modest heath]

source?

[steel shard]

The man himself

[long prairie]

nerf pls

[steel shard]

Fury is not in a good state

[verbal rivet]

Making Fury into a Bladestorm bot isn’t healthy

[steel shard]

We just "steal" dps before anyone else can do anything

Yea it's horrible

Fury is fucked in the current design

[warm crag]

wdym steal, every add in this raid is designed to detonate you if you dont detonate it first

[rotund ginkgo]

It doesn't matter what the source is, fury is in a state in raid where it's only good for 2 bosses, one of them that people down in 2 pulls lmao

Yippee!!!

3 if u count ovinax but it JUST got nerfed so

[warm crag]

why would you not count ovinax

[steel shard]

I mean other classes can do it aswell see frost dk

[warm crag]

its still hard

[rotund ginkgo]

Idk we haven't ran it post nerfs yet

[steel shard]

They just need to ramp abit

While we just blast instantly

[slate light]

Oh and don't forget we have this talent xd, but they will rework Ret paladins

[steel shard]

We do damage before anyone else can

Basicly

[warm crag]

the nerfs allow you to play more of the fight more consistently but swirly overlaps still happen and egg breaks still need to be perfect

[steel shard]

It's legit just a pad spec

At this point

Fury is useless damage

[lunar vortex]

again ... ?

[slate light]

in 10.0.5

[steel shard]

And yeah gg m+

[verbal rivet]

It’s not useless damage. The adds need to die. It just feels bad that it isn’t real damage.

[steel shard]

Other classes can kill them aswell not just fury

Again we just happen to have 0 ramp

And yeah the boss damage

Yikes

[forest owl]

MM any good in m+? havent really played with them at all this season

[verbal rivet]

Hunts?

[steel shard]

Good dps but they just die

[steel shard]

In higher keys

[inner shadow]

ANOTHER BOUNTYYYYYYYYYY

SUB 15 I GOT 2 BOUNTY

[warm crag]

king

[runic cypress]

Congrats on your Versa/Crit hero ring

🥳

[steel shard]

Fury's design is just failed

[forest owl]

just got rinsed

[inner shadow]

yesterday i got this

[runic cypress]

I got that one too

[inner shadow]

• bounty

[runic cypress]

There's also a haste/mastery pants

[red mason]

It's messed up that pretty much all other melee specs bring more utility while also doing more damage

[verbal rivet]

Good MM hunts clap

[steel shard]

It's strong in what it is designed to do but blizzard just keep making it irrelevant

It's over for warrior anlaki

[forest owl]

ye he was 624, fdk was 625 aswell

[verbal rivet]

Woooo mythic raiders

And putting resources to clear content behind 9/10 keys

[steel shard]

And yeah no fdk nerfs is hilarious

It's just why ever bring a warrior

[inner shadow]

how bad are fury nerfs?

[jade cipher]

GUYS

[warm crag]

it is true i advocated for this

[lavish pond]

Ok, so with the new ptr we get stronger or weaker? cannot understand

[jade cipher]

got an m+ question

does dpsing rashanan in dawnbreaker first phase

[steel shard]

Weaker

[lavish pond]

because?

[steel shard]

More nerfs

[lavish pond]

we got also buffs thats why im asking

[steel shard]

Lol

[turbid abyss]

There is a TLDR in https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[lavish pond]

i read it

[jade cipher]

has any effect?

[red mason]

It's probably going to be Anger Managment post changes and an overall nerf

[turbid abyss]

Very slight buff from the previous larger nerf on ptr aka still a nerf

[verbal rivet]

And they are only doing that so Bladestorm isn’t up every add pack consistently

In raid

[turbid abyss]

Net nerf i mean

[runic cypress]

AM is still behind slightly

Might use it in m+

If fury gets invited at all

[forest owl]

and you get a nerf and you get a nerf and you get a nerf...only its all fury nerfs xD

[lunar vortex]

no

[turbid abyss]

Warrior designer went DJ Khalid allover us with a nerf, Another one and another one

[verbal rivet]

I’m so ready to see fury be bottom 25% DPS spec next raid

[lunar vortex]

i think they fired warrior designer

[inner shadow]

they look like buffs

to me

i might be dumb ash too idk

[lunar vortex]

and gave position to mage designer

i wonder what can go wrong huh ...

[turbid abyss]

Im leveling my retadin and having a blast tbh

[lunar vortex]

paladin is always a solid choice xD

[lavish pond]

the changes seems like overall a buff to me also

so dunno what people sayin

[turbid abyss]

Warrior needs bloodlust at least since tge other 2 plates have CR/BR

[forest owl]

this is a snippet of bt/rb in a +10, it does a small amount of your damage, these buffs wont do much to change that, in a raid it's probably just as bad.

[steel shard]

mby they will fix the tier set

[runic cypress]

How hard is it to understand that the DMG "buff" does not apply to Bloodbath and Crushing Blow

[steel shard]

its legit ONLY a buff for AM

not RA

[turbid abyss]

Yeah they specifically mentioned it too kekw

[runic cypress]

And AM is still behind RA

[steel shard]

and id assume the aoe cap is still reduced from 8 to 5?

like its over

its dead

fury that is

arms can still be played

[thin cliff]

I mean
it IS a buff
just an obscenely small one
and our 4pc is still dogshit. Just very slightly less dogshit

[verbal rivet]

Getting 2k in prot, and only playing during the raid at this point.

[runic cypress]

It's like if someone was to break 2 fingers on your hand say "at least it wasn't 4 fingers"

It still sucks

[thin cliff]

yep

[forest owl]

🤣

[sour tundra]

Oof saw they are nerfing warrior AGAIN. The damage is already severely gutted and now they are going to bring us down to tank damage

[wanton cliff]

Losing 1$ to get 40 cents back and being told you profit

[turbid abyss]

Check sikran mythic damage parses, we’re dead last below even aug evoker

[mighty swan]

Well adds needs to die quick and nobody burst faster and better than us

Echo cancelled every roots but most guild wont be able to dos that so we will be usefull here too

And arms cranks st fights on prog at least

Prot is god tier in m+

Warrior as a class is in a good state

We’re vert far from unplayable

[verbal rivet]

lol

[subtle lagoon]

[restive granite]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-let-him-cook-gif-11999534059191155013

[verbal rivet]

Fury is getting poked with a stick while being told “do the thing”

That’s the spec rn

[runic cypress]

Nah bro he's cooking ramen noodles while I ordered a pizza bro is NOT COOKING 💀💀💀💀💀

[wanton cliff]

Bro given you a salad and said he cooked

[barren coral]

id say playable state

[clever belfry]

there can be some cooked stuff in a salad..

[glad plover]

With frequency of the nerfs, and lack of any reworks and dare I say "buffs" is matter of time before we reach "unplayable" area. Every spec in theory is playable, is your class desirable for group content, that is totally different quesiton.

[clever belfry]

sorry u havent eaten good salads 👍

[barren coral]

rn as far as dps goes, the only truly fucked ones are spriest and bm hunter

[mighty swan]

Doomers chat

[clever belfry]

bm lmao

just like we blast burst aoe, they blast pure ST

[verbal rivet]

Real spec, trust

[plucky ice]

it's playable NOW, who knows of next patch lmao

[wanton cliff]

Bro ima chef trust me eat well , just memeing

[plucky ice]

[runic cypress]

I trust nobody

Not even myself

[wanton cliff]

My man

[restive granite]

who in this discord is nailing the devs wife in charge of warrior that were getting so much heat with the nerfs

[narrow narwhal]

Me and you

[wanton cliff]

Worth

[runic cypress]

We all are

[plucky ice]

devs still salty warrior op in 2004

[runic cypress]

Devs weren't even born in 2004

[inner shadow]

JUST HJOW LUCKY

AM I

[thin cliff]

eyyy I got those twice this week. Would be sick if I wasn't wearing the BoE boots

[inner shadow]

2 bountiful maps

under 15 delves

i got haste mast bis chest

mhaste mast bis shoes

[stuck sentinel]

Is playing this class still worth it

[thin cliff]

if you enjoy it, answer is always yes

[stuck sentinel]

I enjoy doing top melee damage…

[restive granite]

Depends on the content you play

[thin cliff]

then enjoy fotm switching every few weeks and never being happy

[restive granite]

if you enjoy m+ and youre pugging you better run your own keys

or have the whole afternoon to apply into keys

[inner shadow]

[thin cliff]

or be like me and play with shitty people so I'm top dps anyway

[restive granite]

i like warrior a lot and i dont mind not being nearly close to the top, what i hate is wasting more than an hour trying to get invited

[stuck sentinel]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OFcbu-z2UWM

My honest reaction

[inner shadow]

i mean

why do people wanna be n1 in the meters

be n1 of your class

[thin cliff]

this

[stuck sentinel]

Get a man who can do both (me)

[inner shadow]

people wipe on rwf and get the world first kill still

do they say oh i died fuck 0 dmg?

no they're happy they did something they killed x boss

even with endgear gearing if you have 0 skill you wont get cutting edge lmao kek

[bitter palm]

am fury is gonna fuck

in m+

[stuck sentinel]

Am?

[restive granite]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[stuck sentinel]

Oh

[worldly thunder]

is fury nerfd again

[plucky ice]

fury so back bros

[stuck sentinel]

Kinda

Slayer got nerfed

[worldly thunder]

what the FUCK

[thin cliff]

this cracks me up too - nerf our burst AoE multiple times, then "hey guys, we noticed you aren't playing that talent that lets you burst aoe more, so we're encouraging that"

clearly someone beat the devs with a bag of reasonable decisions as a child

[plucky ice]

almost like they have no idea what they're doing

[thin cliff]

as someone who manages hundreds of devs in an unrelated industry - the problem is literally everywhere

[earnest grail]

its the 4rd nerf, right?

[stuck sentinel]

This is the top 2k io breakdown rn

There’s more windwalker and DKs than us now

DKs got spoiled this tier

[worldly thunder]

The fourd, yes

[stuck sentinel]

Best tank and dps

[earnest grail]

[unborn crow]

Is there a simple way to make a weakaura that behaves exactly like the "spell icon" from the spellbook? Without creating a bunch of triggers/conditions

In the way that it glows on procs and shows stacks etc

[worldly thunder]

guys does any1 have a weakaura that combines enrage timer and WW stacks

that shows both

[bitter palm]

pwar is best tank

[digital plover]

Paladin tank deleted 🤣🤣🤣

[stuck sentinel]

Untrue

[bitter palm]

how is it untrue

[stuck sentinel]

You made the claim, prove it’s true

[digital plover]

Drood tank actually best for hl mm+

[worldly thunder]

man i hate arms why are we being forced to play arms

fury 4 lyfe

[narrow narwhal]

You're not being forced to

[worldly thunder]

well unlses u want to be at the bottom of hte barrel you're not

[digital plover]

Fury have nerf target on odyn Fury ?

[narrow narwhal]

Fury is fun so I play fury

[stuck sentinel]

Is that a sentence

[digital plover]

Damn

Din't like this

[worldly thunder]

perry you've played fury for a long time ?

[narrow narwhal]

Yes fury fun so I play fury

[digital plover]

Soon hunt BM > fwar ?🤣🤣🤣

With nerf IS probably

[stuck sentinel]

Fury is mashing 70+ buttons per minute to do less than classes pressing less than 50 buttons per minute

[worldly thunder]

i want to understand why im lacking in dps compared to another fury war in equal ilevel, im following the rotaton properly with rampage rotation

am i just not mashing buttons fast enough

[narrow narwhal]

Idk man

[stuck sentinel]

Itemization, stat priority and trinkets

[granite glade]

CD timing around adds and stuff?

[stuck sentinel]

Perhaps wasting rage

Enraged uptime

[narrow narwhal]

We can't tell you anything without logs

[stuck sentinel]

4p?

[worldly thunder]

ill upload a log in a little while if someone can check it

[stuck sentinel]

I might play brewmaster main in keys just for this damage

[worldly thunder]

this guy was doing insane damage with 1 ilevel less than me , top 3 , i need to understand what the difference was, according to details we had hte same damage prio's so same rotation

[stuck sentinel]

It’s insane

[stuck sentinel]

Trinkets, tier and stats?

[worldly thunder]

yea my trinkets do suck i dont have scoorbrood

i thought 4 set tier for fury was pretty much useless ?

i have 2-set

[stuck sentinel]

No reason not to pick it up, I think someone said it’s 2-5% dmg increase even if it gives us too much haste

[worldly thunder]

i want to pick it up just been unlucky as hell

[stuck sentinel]

You literally have 3 catalysts as of this week

How unlucky can you be…

[worldly thunder]

catalyst for tier gear ?

[stuck sentinel]

Yeah

[unborn crow]

B R U H

[worldly thunder]

i have 3/4

[stuck sentinel]

And you can’t get 2.2k io for your free heroic piece?

Or clear a normal?

[slate light]

2k or heroic

[stuck sentinel]

Yeah that

[runic cypress]

Catalysts is for finishing transmog set off pieces

[worldly thunder]

u mean full clear of heroic nerub-ar ?

[forest owl]

the real endgame

[stuck sentinel]

I already have the best transmog

Warrior CM set

[rigid rain]

With the 4 set single target rotation should be rmp>cb>rb>bb?

[stuck sentinel]

This guy took my pfp…

[rigid rain]

U look pretty tbh

[plush ravine]

Is there a better place than Wowheas/Icy Veins for Fury class guides? Doesn’t look like they are very current.

[violet moss]

idk how well you do the rotation... but if you do it well then it's probably better trinkets n weapon

[stuck sentinel]

Archon.gg

[worldly thunder]

wait how to get the free set piece guys ? i didnt get it

[warm crag]

maxroll also has a guide written by revvez but i dont see how the wowhead guide is outdated

[stuck sentinel]

Mailbox

ChatGPT, write an updated fury warrior guide for TWW

[rigid rain]

I got treacherous last night and feels so good and a big upgrade

[runic cypress]

"Of course here is an update guide to Fury Warrior in TWW

Step 1 Reroll to FDK or Ret
Step 2 Enjoy"

[stuck sentinel]

My raid guild lost a heroic transmitter to an ele shaman

[fading sky]

tbf u could also reroll rogue

or survival hunter 😉

[violet moss]

drustvar and murlok for pvp
Wowhead and icy for pve

This is really all you need, what do you mean they don't feel updated?

[long prairie]

murlok is not a guide site

[worldly thunder]

pretty sure it's the m+ build with ody's for raid bosses with ads and the regular build with spear for raid bosses without ads

[violet moss]

💡

[long prairie]

and he can be also used for m+

[narrow narwhal]

Multi target

Nvm that person deleted their message

[brazen estuary]

woops was meant for the arms channel

[violet moss]

got his answer, leave no trace

[worldly thunder]

an imposter !

[warm crag]

lol

[fading sky]

lol Qrva does A LOT more dmg than crit ^_^

[frozen tartan]

BOBR QRVA

[pale lava]

blizz balance team is so good at what they are doing that even when they try to buff us, they end up nerfing us

[fading sky]

gb he is what 1.7m vs 1.5m.. i mean its a difference:D

[pale lava]

that's a big diff btw

[fading sky]

i know its big

pala fucks

warrior sucks

[narrow narwhal]

Try pala m plus build for single target

[pale lava]

they aren't bad in st

in dungeons

if that's what youre trying to say

[hushed trench]

What slot are ya'll crafting for your second piece?

[pale lava]

back+wrist for M+ embellish

[hushed trench]

Got it

[inner shadow]

do you get radiant echo from weekly quests

or also daily world quests?

for exp this

[fervent warren]

delves

[inner shadow]

only?

[fervent warren]

u get keys for bountyfull from those chests

[runic cypress]

Yes bountiful that is

[unreal pewter]

Only from bountifull delve chests

[inner shadow]

i have 4 radiant echoes

what doo i doo

[unreal pewter]

wait for one more key

[runic cypress]

Do one more bountiful delve

[inner shadow]

i have no keys left

[unreal pewter]

you can get from WQs

the key shards or w/e it's called

or from renown

[inner shadow]

fromn non bontiful delves?

[calm quartz]

I have no balls and I must c...

[runic cypress]

No

[forest owl]

what would be the best way to sim a fight like mythic brood btw, like 5t/8t 20s patchwerk?

[runic cypress]

You can get fragments from WQs

25 a pop

[inner shadow]

wtf

[unreal pewter]

also find a group when doing echoes... You'll get much more key fragments than soloing it

[unreal pewter]

Zekvir have a chance to spawn in delves

when you "kill him" he drops claw thingie

[inner shadow]

if we die

what happens

[south kayak]

he teabags you

[dusty rose]

Zekir gones

[unreal pewter]

I think he drops it too

[inner shadow]

drops what

cuz we died

i was eating

[south kayak]

map

not always

[runic cypress]

He drops his claw which can have hero track gear or maps

Or nothing

[inner shadow]

can i get wowhead link

for drops

[runic cypress]

No

Ur a big boy now

I'm sure you can do it yourself

[inner shadow]

theres so majny thats why

[runic cypress]

He drops an item

That you can loot

[desert cloud]

He can randomly spawn in delves

So i guess each delve has it's own zekvir

Makes sense programming wise

[clever belfry]

not really

youd wanna reuse when you can

[warm crag]

he does the same thing in every delve no

[inner zinc]

Happy mean girls day lads

[earnest grail]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAdzl52JdFF/ hope it isnt a repost 😄

[spice wind]

Versa seems to be the worst stat for fury, why is the versa embellishment more popular and not the crit one?

[inner shadow]

so i foiught zekvir

he didnt drop the claw

isnt it 100% drop?

[vital sonnet]

Vers isn't that bad

[spice wind]

I have no idea, just looking at archon.gg it’s the least popular stat for top mythic+ fury warriors! I’m new to retail so just trying to wrap my head around stuff.

[warm crag]

this isn't really how gearing works anymore king

most of the time we just use simc on raidbots to figure out what gear we should wear

[sand crest]

[warm crag]

duskweave just ended up simming highest for m+ oriented content but that doesnt mean it is what you should be crafting right now

[plush flower]

Stats will change for everyone depending on your gear. I might have a lot more crit than you so I need more mastery or haste than you would

[warm crag]

almost everyone that is pushing relevant content is using crafted weapon + nerubian doubler cause of the guaranteed mythic ilvl weapon

[chrome plover]

thank god i did because this first boss aint dropping a weapon for shit

[warm crag]

i mean even if you did loot a mythic wep u still need an offhand and its omega grief for a guild to give a second mythic wep to a warrior

[chrome plover]

i do still need an offahdn

i am using a 619 befoulers syringe

[spice wind]

Aye but i also read that for mythic+ the uptime can be bad so might aswell go for stats at above 80%. I’ll sim for sure , thanks

[bitter palm]

nah

[long prairie]

big wep goes brrr

[warm crag]

uptime of what