fury

[gilded pawn]

It didn’t get nerfed to that point

[acoustic yoke]

Friendly reminder that we have a capstone that gives us double BS/Rav use

[gilded pawn]

It started like that

[gaunt moat]

I agree but they talking about buffing st without aoe

[runic cypress]

SMF CHADS STAY WINNING
NEVER STOP PARTY ROCKING

[acoustic yoke]

[fading sleet]

quit memeing on SMF 😦

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1291196676572450899/image.png?ex=66ff381c&is=66fde69c&hm=c60c014153930fe49e11979b09c4e91a20978845e0462d24af773fbdc683fd31&

[granite cloud]

1 more nerf and we're good to go?

[burnt stone]

The AoE nerf seems to be enough just by applying the soft cap to OF, Roar, and Bladestorm, so I think it would be okay to roll back the 3% nerf to all damage.

[upbeat plume]

weve been having that discussion for like 6 years blizzard has done fuck all about it in that time, not once lol

[clever belfry]

so true king 👑

[whole latch]

wow 500% fury buffs!

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-kill-me-do-it-just-do-it-im-not-a-pussy-gif-20383759

[gaunt moat]

I know bro i know

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cuh-guh-buh-gif-26372267

[sudden tusk]

its not that bad but its fun to doom

[warm crag]

xantage did you hear 5% buff to fury

[sudden tusk]

if anything we might just run AM double on use for drungeons after the change

[young swan]

doom about the fact that their design choices are shit

[sudden tusk]

THAT is true

i think raid design is severly impacting fury in a very unhealthy way

[young swan]

the numerical value is actually irrelevant

[gaunt moat]

Am double on use with mountain thane

Infinite aoe dmg

Flat infinite

[tardy lark]

i really enjoy double on use gameplay

[burnt stone]

Blizz buffs wizards right away when their dps weakens even a little, but does fury have a small voice?

[tardy lark]

said no one evr

[young swan]

i actually am enjoying it for ovinax

[gaunt moat]

[odd star]

easy to say until timmy the huntrr that never beats you on the meters and dies half of the pulls starts beating you

[young swan]

feels sick having trinkets for every add set

[nimble ermine]

blizzard devs are magus players

[tardy lark]

you are no one apparently

[burnt stone]

Even if I cry in a small country in the East, my voice doesn't reach Blizz. Someone please go to Blizz and complain on my behalf. lol

[tardy lark]

bro transmitter is so aids

[clever belfry]

get agrip

[young swan]

i dont mind it so much

[sudden tusk]

ill give transmitter away til its about to go to an offspec

then ill force myself to use it

[warm crag]

AM or RA?

[tardy lark]

i've had it for a solid 2 hours

[young swan]

AM

[whole latch]

transmitter will be fine when we all reroll arms

[warm crag]

Perish in flames!

[young swan]

no

[clever belfry]

perish

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1291196676572450899/image.png?ex=66ff381c&is=66fde69c&hm=c60c014153930fe49e11979b09c4e91a20978845e0462d24af773fbdc683fd31&

[gaunt moat]

I rly don't enjoy using it in m+ but i find transmitter alright in raid

[clever belfry]

you know front right tech yes?

[young swan]

AM 2x on use is epic

[tardy lark]

yeah

[warm crag]

RA 2x on use is fine too

[mossy fox]

same, transmitter is alright imo as long as you know how the orb/circle spawns

[tardy lark]

it still doesnt fuck using it in keys

[young swan]

not as cool and fun

[mossy fox]

still an annoying kind of trinket i wouldn't want to see again

[tardy lark]

key transmitter not cool

[young swan]

i get to play the minigame of getting reck back before each egg set

[tardy lark]

might be fine in raid idk yet

[mossy fox]

but it's fine to use imo

[burnt stone]

Even now, in order to enjoy M+ content, I put down my main hand and off-hand and hold a shield, but from now on I will never be able to hold a weapon again.

[warm crag]

i will probs play it on reclear but we have 3 fdks of which 2 are titanforged alts that came out of nowhere

[young swan]

(I always get it back)

[mossy fox]

this minigame is nice

[warm crag]

AM is legit not worth it for me lmao

[chilly plume]

critcake am i allowed to play AM again? huge prefer it to RA

[mossy fox]

i have a hard time with it sometimes when i get egg break with my 19% base haste

[young swan]

have u been playing the minigame with frenzied or powerful

[mossy fox]

only the first one though

[warm crag]

play the banezi cook

[whole latch]

wait the 2 sec delay on egg spawn means more time to get cds back before addsmacking right?

[warm crag]

with the talent that increases your reck duration

[tardy lark]

haste flask hack

[ashen socket]

19%? that sounds like pain

[warm crag]

its just enough to get your reck back

or just play RA like a man

[mossy fox]

ya i have 0 haste from rings

[ashen socket]

Just get haste ez

[mossy fox]

someone's gotta kill the adds, and we have 0 fdk and im the only fury

[gaunt moat]

Make RAMPAGE great again plz blizzard

I wanna do 5 times rampage opener

[warm crag]

play depths of insanity banezi SWEARS by it

[young swan]

thats not rampage being great

[whole latch]

monkeypaw, they will buff rampage and bring back the delayed gcd

[runic cypress]

Bro you're taking it too personal just go out and have some nice tokayaki to calm down

[young swan]

thats rage being overinflated

[warm crag]

also you are just getting r1 no question

[stable brook]

ability is so bad you have to use it 5 times to get it going

[burnt stone]

[young swan]

if u want to make rampage great you have to cut rage gen by a monumental amount and increase the rage cost

[gaunt moat]

Yes but it's 5 seconds of pure dopamine

[mossy fox]

i dont need tbh i just need to get the first reck in time and i'm good for the rest of the fight

[oblique trail]

I did this tonight and I had Reck for every add set with Powerful even at 24% haste

[warm crag]

noob

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-silly-place-holy-grail-gif-14462043

[tardy lark]

bro is korean, not japanese

[mossy fox]

sometimes i ramp like 3-4 times in a row on ovinax thanks to war machine procs on dying smallies

[fading sleet]

Can we just agree Blizz has no fucking clue what they're doing with fury warriors and since BFA has been a "Fuck it, we'll do it live"

[tardy lark]

We found plater scripts to turn off all smallies that dont fixate you

gamechanger

[runic cypress]

Ok then he should just have some nice Gimbap and Kimchi instead

[young swan]

yeah its actually insane tech

just slam the ramp key for 4s

[crude gate]

Yo Crit, thoughts on AM fury for m+ after these changes?

[spring fox]

I would if it didn't feel outright antagonistic at this point

[thick fossil]

I will be stuck in Prot jail all expac.

[warm crag]

i think war machine should be reverted to its legion state

[young swan]

agreed!

[mossy fox]

straight up better than RA in that case

[tardy lark]

perma bloodlust sign me up

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1291196676572450899/image.png?ex=66ff381c&is=66fde69c&hm=c60c014153930fe49e11979b09c4e91a20978845e0462d24af773fbdc683fd31&

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[upbeat plume]

if the two are equal ams probably just gonna be the play in all content

[fading sleet]

Please. Explosive is still an affix right? :3

[crude gate]

Nice

[fading sleet]

perma 40% haste was so nice

[burnt stone]

lol what is this again

[tardy lark]

the only time you'll catch me killing explosives willingly

[thick fossil]

Give us Legion War Cry again?

[runic cypress]

It's sad frog in the rain

By anonymous

[covert void]

LUL

[brittle snow]

So is fury pulling ahead of Arms in raids?

[thick fossil]

Me being sad I'll be stuck in Prot jail all Expac

[tardy lark]

[warm crag]

i would love to not want to get crit at all on my gear

[warm crag]

go practice treacherous noob

[runic cypress]

More like getting head from a meth addict

[lusty plinth]

Guys can anyone help me with stats without the use of simc

[young swan]

we lowkey already do this

so

[tardy lark]

ill get plenty tomorrow when imma bang my head against silken court for 3 hours

[warm crag]

i have a lot of crit on my super rare queen ansurek ring actually!

[gaunt moat]

What did it do in legion

[warm crag]

30% haste

[gaunt moat]

I began playing warrior in bfa

Damn

[nimble ermine]

30% haste on kill

was fun

[runic cypress]

Why?

[whole latch]

wasnt the opportunity cost massive?

[fading sleet]

Felt so goated on explosive week

[whole latch]

on war machine

[mossy fox]

just give it combust treatment

[fading sleet]

no

[warm crag]

idk what combust treatment is i do not care for magicians

[mossy fox]

[gaunt moat]

I dunno i came back to the game and i was like fuck it i'll be a dude wearing 2 big weapons

[runic cypress]

Sus

[gaunt moat]

Why not

[runic cypress]

They are called wizards

[whole latch]

shouldve played ret like 20% of the entire playerbase @gaunt moat

[runic cypress]

Warrior wasn't that great in bfa

[mossy fox]

i dont remember exactly but crit is still useful within combust even though combust gives 100% crit... i think the crit rating gets converted somehow

[tardy lark]

crit over 100% converts to mastery at some rate

cause the rest of fires kit made sense to play some amount of crit on

[gaunt moat]

I didn't know back i didnt even knew m+ existed

[mossy fox]

mage design is pretty good

[tulip swallow]

they get partial mastery, yeah

[mossy fox]

wish devs loved us as much as mages

[covert void]

If our damage is on par (at best) to other classes, why would people want to take us anyways? (m+ / pugs) due to the current design of warriors, we literally should have more damage than classes that have those extra benefits imo.

[tardy lark]

mage is goated (outside frost)

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1291196676572450899/image.png?ex=66ff381c&is=66fde69c&hm=c60c014153930fe49e11979b09c4e91a20978845e0462d24af773fbdc683fd31&

[tulip swallow]

in legion it was 100% crit into mastery

[nimble ermine]

those pesky magi

[gaunt moat]

But i kept going with it since i love it

[whole latch]

mages when they havent been top 5 spec for half a patch 😦

[burnt stone]

I'm trying to beat up a target pile with an AM build. Would it be better to prioritize BT over RB during AoE battles?

[gaunt moat]

Even tho i've been crying about the spec for 6 yearsish i can't get away from it

[nimble ermine]

it's ok mages will be bad one day

maybe

[spring fox]

But only one day

[acoustic yoke]

Wish devs loved us period

[thorny shoal]

heat death of universe will happen before that happens

[whole latch]

wish devs knew we existed

[runic cypress]

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 2024
I am warrior man 410,757,864,530 DEAD PALADINS

[spring fox]

Wish devs didn't actively hate us

[nimble ermine]

they do know we existed, since they decided to hiroshima us

[spring fox]

I wish they didn't. They'd stop nerfing us while we're down

[acoustic yoke]

Gta 6 will come out before a warrior tree gets reworked

[lusty plinth]

Hey @mossy fox mind answering pm on discord?

[runic cypress]

Star Citizen will come out before that

[acoustic yoke]

Unironically true

[whole latch]

maybe we can play warrior in ashes of creation until the reworks come

[gaunt moat]

As long as i can swing a gigantic hammer i'm in

[pliant jackal]

Play fucking Barbarian in d4

[ancient rain]

Switched from a healing main to fury warrior this expansion because of how much fun it was. I’m feeling differently though after this season so far

[pliant jackal]

we can feel like a warrior there

[whole latch]

@pliant jackal i need more attack and defense on gear firrst

[gaunt moat]

Is it like d3? Spin to farm and support build in end game?

[pliant jackal]

Man I was enjoying d4 at the beginning

they fucked it up so much

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1291196676572450899/image.png?ex=66ff381c&is=66fde69c&hm=c60c014153930fe49e11979b09c4e91a20978845e0462d24af773fbdc683fd31&

[nimble ermine]

how much is 5%

[sterile hill]

its 5%

[lusty plinth]

5% wat

[sterile hill]

[tulip swallow]

5% vibes

[runic cypress]

Why don't you gain Deez Nuts

[restive peak]

Spongie loves trolling people, it's 5% to AM

[lusty plinth]

[restive peak]

Which is still below Ra

Lol

[trail bane]

I had a 97% log on mythic Sikran today. 9 specs do more dps than i did on average. Meaning the 79th log for fury is worse than the 1250th log for Destruction. And Destruction isnt even good.

I'm glad we are getting nerfed, maybe i can be benched on Kyveza and Silken Court, forcing one of our tanks to gear a prot warrior.

[ember otter]

Hey, so I can get the chest or legs set piece from the vault. They're lower than what I have, but not by much. Worth getting one and upgrading? I have no other pieces. Alternative is a 20% upgrade on neck

[runic cypress]

I'm going to 😴 here's hoping for more fury nerfs when I wake up! I really feel Rampage is over performing in contrast to slam hope they tune it down a bit

[gaunt moat]

Bro it's actually amazing the whole week i've been full copium telling my friends we'll get some compensation in the next ptr patch i feel insulted

[nimble ermine]

i mean

you were kinda right?

[trail bane]

We are getting some compensation. Its just completely negated by even more nerfs

[pliant jackal]

yea

[warm crag]

another 5% nerf just hit ptr refresh wowhead

[nimble ermine]

did we gain 5% in it

[lean oxide]

we are single target guys now

[trail bane]

the fact that i dont immediately know you are trolling is problematic

[gaunt moat]

Ayaaaa

[warm crag]

idk have you considered speccing arms to stay relevant to your guild or

[trail bane]

Wouldnt surprise me by now if we are getting even more nerfs

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9QBPiDgQFJTGa7NbDnLaeK
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xfF3kXPT4b8Jd7vsSGDHfg

Has the patch already been applied to Mimiron Raid Bot?

[trail bane]

I have, just need to wait another 3 weeks to craft 2 embellishments

[lusty plinth]

We’re not fury, we’re arms now

[warm crag]

you just use the same ones as fury?

[safe juniper]

this is so disappointing with the constant nerfs

[trail bane]

Not if i have a 639 weapon

[safe juniper]

I dont even know what we did wrong

[warm crag]

i also have a 639 weapon and still use the same ones as fury?

[trail bane]

Arms want 2 non-weapon embellishments last time i checked

[acoustic yoke]

We were borm

[lusty plinth]

Pump

[warm crag]

are you stupid

[spring fox]

I had low levels of hope that they'd revert the target cap nerfs after seeing how we're doing before those nerfs. Just getting curbstomped instead. Time to consider rerolling

[trail bane]

And fury wants the weapon embellish in offhand

[oblique trail]

You do not need optimal Arms embellishments to play Arms

[oblique trail]

Case in point, I know from experience

[burnt stone]

DS SIM

[trail bane]

Ofc i dont need it

I dont need anything

[covert void]

20 year old game, still cant just play whatever you want and be equally competitive.

[trail bane]

But if you felt good playing without maximizing your gear

[arctic sinew]

Wait arent u that warr i invited to my pug earlier

[trail bane]

Why are you getting any gear at all

[oblique trail]

Questionmark

You are lost my friend

Get a grip

[warm crag]

bro just equip the crafted weapon and writhing bark and be 99% optimal while still optimizing your gearing for fury which will be played on ansurek

????

[trail bane]

Ok, go play singleminded fury next raid Banezi

[oblique trail]

No I think I will not

[trail bane]

Show me the joy

[oblique trail]

For that is simply just griefing

[trail bane]

Of not optimizing

No its not

[covert void]

not done any keys today (not for lack of trying)

[trail bane]

You just do less dmg

[oblique trail]

Chief there's a difference between actively hindering your damage massively

[arctic sinew]

it was for a fresh raid hc run

[oblique trail]

And just going the better spec, but being slightly less optimal in that spec

[gaunt moat]

Banezi you used to be way more toxic you got too wise

[warm crag]

you do more damage with arms using fury embellishments than playing fury with fury embellishments or arms with no embellishments at all

what is your point

[trail bane]

My point is Blizzard devs are dumb for making these nerfs

[oblique trail]

ok chief

[trail bane]

And i have lost the last shred of faith i had in them

For ever balancing warrior

[warm crag]

we are still a class that is brought twice on every fight ye

[sterile dagger]

oh yeah, and our tier set is giga bad...

[warm crag]

imagine how many wouldve been brought pre nerf

[trail bane]

Maybe its good that there hasnt been any major changes to the warrior playstyle in a decade

Because at this point they would probably fuck it up

[hard widget]

24 atleast

[warm crag]

True!

[drifting violet]

hey guys, is there any bug or something with the timer on the skarmorak shard? i have a macro with reck avatar and shard and shard use to get desinc from the other 2

[gaunt moat]

Nice number

[oblique trail]

It's the CDR from the affix

[last junco]

Affix

[oblique trail]

It desyncs your CDs and trinkets slightly

[drifting violet]

it doesnt affect the trinket, fuck

[hard widget]

Just dont kill the affix so it wont desync ur trinket, big brain strats

[drifting violet]

thank you all btw

[gaunt moat]

Np

[hard widget]

Dont do this btw

[last junco]

np

[drifting violet]

in not braindead hahaha

[warm crag]

absolutely do this it is wasted damage to focus the add

[gaunt moat]

I didn't help him at all but i took all the thanks

[hard widget]

Im not saying it just for you

[runic cypress]

Always do the opposite of what twitch people tell you

[hard widget]

I can already smell the “but jeventes said this” comments

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603905932816023565/1285628629757198397/file-u053CwqyAUVRApGw9gLe2u07.png?ex=66febcf7&is=66fd6b77&hm=ee174ea94294763b25caf8ac276796181a39e35fed5c33783eb03467d5e34543&

[gaunt moat]

How is jevknight doing

[drifting violet]

at this moment my favorite affix bug is the one in nw where it buffs the adds from the drake

[gaunt moat]

Did the project kept going? Or you gave up and went back to warrior?

[hard widget]

Havent played it today, probably get it 80 tomorrow

[dark frost]

This is still one of the funniest thibgs ive ever seen

[gaunt moat]

Alright

[static rock]

I swear to fucking god, these devs have no brain cells

[hard widget]

But im cooking up a potential team with the warrior

[static rock]

dumber than an special ed orange cat

[thick fossil]

Overall it's not even 5%

[runic cypress]

Badass

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cake-cat-cake-meme-gif-24537247

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1291196676572450899/image.png?ex=66ff381c&is=66fde69c&hm=c60c014153930fe49e11979b09c4e91a20978845e0462d24af773fbdc683fd31&

[static rock]

will this even change any talents for us?

[gaunt moat]

You going with the usual full physical druid monk rogue hunt warrior?

Or got some other ideas?

[hard widget]

Druid monk rogue shaman probably

[warm crag]

ye u probs play AM in m+ and in ovinax

[thick fossil]

or reroll something else.

[static rock]

will we have more damage or is it literaly just better than the nerfed version?

[thick fossil]

it is a net loss

[hard widget]

It will make it less grief to take AM

But overall we got nerfed

[oblique trail]

You will have more damage on a per-pack basis

[static rock]

This is DF S1 tier set all over again

[undone juniper]

i deleted the game already idk what im still doing here

[oblique trail]

But a small loss in ST

[thick fossil]

Dooming?

[gaunt moat]

You're cursed

[static rock]

Wtf

[clever belfry]

sie

[gaunt moat]

Sometimes i don't even play the game for month and just speak around here

[clever belfry]

r

[drifting violet]

Deserved lol

[gaunt moat]

So it's normal don't worry

[clever belfry]

a 14th nerf has hit the fury warriors

[oblique trail]

It's okay a 3rd buff has hit the Fury Warriors on the PTR

[next coyote]

Time to reroll fdk boys

[warm crag]

[drifting violet]

u just earned the 15th

[next coyote]

The jig is uo

[warm crag]

you're late

[river viper]

I would prefer to cancel my sub

[clever belfry]

sir intel just came in

[warm crag]

nononononono

[clever belfry]

a 4th buff has hit the fury warriors

[warm crag]

LETS GOO!!!!!

We're So Back

[hard widget]

https://tenor.com/view/dump-it-gif-26704933

Fury stonks

[pliant jackal]

Blizzard stopped caring about warrior when they turned thrall into a loser shaman, killed off garrosh and varian. Bring back our warrior bros in lore

[clever belfry]

no longer joever
we are so barack

[fiery storm]

non fury related, when do you guys lust in necrotic 🙂

[gaunt moat]

We realized fdk did too much aoe and st dmg so after a long discussion and multiple sleepless nights we decided to nerf fury warriors

[hard widget]

First pull somewhere before 2nd boss and 3rd boss

[drifting violet]

on cd

[tardy axle]

would it be worth swapping to arms?

[next coyote]

Bladestorm now ticks once more time
Bladestorm now deals 25% less damage

[warm crag]

you can swap at any time!!!!!

[clever belfry]

so they stopped caring about warr before wow came out

[warm crag]

press N immediately to discover the spec swapping option

[tardy axle]

but sub stats are all fucked cos arms doesnt want mastery or vers

[clever belfry]

thrall was literally trained to be a shaman in the novel bro

[weary sail]

Fury still paying the sins for the the GOAT spec in vanilla days

[oblique trail]

Stats don't matter as much as you think they do

[hard widget]

That statement is false sir

[warm crag]

only stat that matters is ilvl

[oblique trail]

You can play either spec with the others specs stats

[drifting violet]

then get absolutely disaster dps for not having crit

[warm crag]

unless you vendor all gear every time you swap spec

[gaunt moat]

Fuck thrall

[warm crag]

??????????????

[weary sail]

Playing arms with no crit feels like shit tho

[warm crag]

sim your character in fury ST spec and arms ST spec right now and tell me which one sims higher

[drifting violet]

this

[oblique trail]

It doesn't feel any different!

[hard widget]

Why?

[warm crag]

you rage cap either way????????????

[modest condor]

bet it doesnt feel as bad as playing fury with powerful enrage tho

[hard widget]

U dont feel crit at all

[drifting violet]

force me to madge

jk

[next coyote]

I love getting gapped by tanks every other pack is it EXHILIRATING

[oblique trail]

These were my stats on Bloodbound Horror as Arms

I have no Crit!

I am doomered!

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[hard widget]

I actually need to, because im giga on haste with my new 5k haste neck kekw

[warm crag]

@mossy fox where is my crit statistic?

[drifting violet]

dont get me in trouble man

[weary sail]

Remove powerful enrage

[warm crag]

already modmailed you

[modest condor]

im never touching powerful enrage

[drifting violet]

shit

[hard widget]

That does not happen

[last junco]

Archie’s face while writing this article

[gaunt moat]

Powerful enrage is the worst talents ever i swear

[raven sorrel]

dumb question: what is AM referring to

[weary sail]

Then take the othet talents

[warm crag]

anger management

[next coyote]

Says who

[static rock]

anger management

[hard widget]

Says me

[raven sorrel]

makes sense

[warm crag]

i also like dealing less damage

[next coyote]

Liar and thief

[restive fiber]

even thrall got sick of warrior xD
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExcHBrcjJmZnliaGlqaDIxdGgxNXloNjB1amFyNXN5ZHRtaGNwN2s4ayZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/d3is6thHCMJEMWCjj7/giphy.gif

[pliant jackal]

Oof it’s been a while. I always remembered thrall as a warrior for some reason before cata

[gaunt moat]

I do i prefer losing a bit of dmg over playing it

[hard widget]

Brother, if ur getting gapped by the tank. Ur probably making some mistakes here and there

[modest condor]

is that why you play warrior?

[warm crag]

ye

[weary sail]

Then fury is perfect for you

[warm crag]

have you not played the raid or

[next coyote]

Nah im joking, but outside of cds we are wet noodles this tier

[hard widget]

Just do what i do. Say holdon doorbel

Then wait 20 sec for ur cds to come back up

And blast again

👍

[stoic star]

Has anyone in here done the Solo Zekvirs Lair on Fury yet?

[next coyote]

Then rip aggro for the 22nd time in the dungeon YEEHAW

[quartz tulip]

I genuinely hope a WoW dev reads these comments because I can't quite grasp how hard they are fucking this class due to the burst AOE, like the WarcraftLogs don't lie? Do they think these numbers are pulled out of a hat? It baffles me that I can hit 1.3m DPS on Rashanan and yet be still be barely a purple parse. Ok so I go full ST for that fight. Now the adds take so much longer in relation to the fight that everyone suffers. And don't even get me started on keys. It's a joke, especially in pug groups. How am I meant to know how big a tank is going? All the damage is through burst and if I have no CDs for a massive pull then its even worse. Or I save CDs for bosses on Tyran but the tank is taking 3 mobs at a time so ???????? They need to take a good hard look at this class and actually consult mathematicians for spec balance. LOSING ST DPS in a patch designed to buff it is window-licking levels of goof.

[hard widget]

Make nightelf

Fixed

[warm crag]

I genuinely hope a WoW dev reads these comments because I can't quite grasp how hard they are fucking this class due to the burst AOE, like the WarcraftLogs don't lie? Do they think these numbers are pulled out of a hat? It baffles me that I can hit 1.3m DPS on Rashanan and yet be still be barely a purple parse. Ok so I go full ST for that fight. Now the adds take so much longer in relation to the fight that everyone suffers. And don't even get me started on keys. It's a joke, especially in pug groups. How am I meant to know how big a tank is going? All the damage is through burst and if I have no CDs for a massive pull then its even worse. Or I save CDs for bosses on Tyran but the tank is taking 3 mobs at a time so ???????? They need to take a good hard look at this class and actually consult mathematicians for spec balance. LOSING ST DPS in a patch designed to buff it is window-licking levels of goof.

[fringe vale]

the story one?

[hard widget]

I read the first sentence and no they dont

[stoic star]

the ??? difficulty that rewards you the Void Delves Dirigible mount.

[next coyote]

Orc or death!

[pliant jackal]

The real fury warrior dps is about the friends we made along the way. This is how blizzard thinks I bet.

[tardy axle]

yea done ? and ?? and got the void flying mount

[weary sail]

If you want to do this one play arms, you have CD up for every egg and made it way easier

And set focus and focus kick macro yhe boss

[stoic star]

Do you have a talent build for it you could share? did you use thunderous roar or spear

[tardy axle]

yea sec

[stoic star]

I need to make sure i do the right kick

[warm crag]

i actually took the time to read that you are literally just complaining about pugging tanks and not knowing how they pull

[stoic star]

i kept kicking the wrong one then he would regenerate 20% health

[warm crag]

this isnt a fury issue

[tardy axle]

kick the heal

[quartz tulip]

already dropped my warrior in the bin now i can play any top meta class

[tardy axle]

you need to charge remove the spittle dot

cos it counts as a movement imparing effect

[stoic star]

Ohhh

[hard widget]

U dropped ur warrior for a hunter? Bro pls

[restive fiber]

meta slave

[tardy axle]

and slayer has a talent that says remove movement imparing effect on charge

[gaunt moat]

Going hunter instead of fury is pure madness

[static rock]

"Developer’s note: Currently Reckless Abandon is outperforming Anger Management in all situations, so we’re bringing them closer in power by bringing up Raging Blow and Bloodthirst’s base damage, which will also improve Fury’s baseline single-target damage."
They really don't understand fury, do they?

[tough frigate]

anyone got a bg blitz build? started using death wiah kinda funny

[quartz tulip]

@warm crag this is a comment from some random nerd on critcakes new video

[acoustic yoke]

Pvp channel is probs best to ask

[stoic star]

You had the talent build @tardy axle ?

[warm crag]

baited again

i keep losing

[quartz tulip]

LOL

[tardy axle]

@stoic star CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAgRDMDYMMDz2MY2ghZMMzDMMzstNmZmZWYmhZmxMsZZGGzMAAAQYmZZbswilNz0YmZYyswYbYD

[burnt stone]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ifjxTmu3gyw5uxVVmAARgR

Has a nerf been applied to Mimiron Raid Bot?

[gaunt moat]

Loser

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-watching-baby-sensory-baby-sensory-gif-5238469316282201243

[stoic star]

Is this fior arms or fury?

[oblique trail]

I laugh at Spongie on a daily basis and yell at him for being such a loser

[quartz tulip]

MM is 100x better than fury warrior and survival imo is better than fury

[tardy axle]

i picked up the auto attack odyns purely for extra avatar uptime to give me more leeway on removing the spittle dot cos thats the main thing that kills youu

fury

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-watching-baby-sensory-baby-sensory-gif-5238469316282201243

[oblique trail]

He died to the charge on first boss

[stoic star]

Oh I thought you said to play arms

[oblique trail]

(His own fault and not an evoker)

[tardy axle]

no im swappin to arms and youre in the fury section

[hard widget]

Im sure legolas is proud of you sir

[stoic star]

my main issue is keeping him from healing

[tardy axle]

kick it

[stoic star]

i lived for a long time

[acoustic yoke]

If you take two Ls, turn them to face each other, and rotate them you get a W

So Ws all around

[stoic star]

i just need to find out what the name of the spell i have to kick is rq

[pliant jackal]

[gaunt moat]

I still think about this dude asking for auto attacks dmg buff...

[tardy axle]

the one t hat isnt called enfeebling spittle

[quartz tulip]

Dropping moons soon

[grim prism]

so

how we feeling about the fury BUFFS

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-malevolent-shrine-copium-gif-17048246567311451549

[thick fossil]

God damn .... what fucking insane grade of copium is this?

[drifting violet]

dont gebait pls

[hard widget]

Ragebait

[drifting violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603905932816023565/1285628629757198397/file-u053CwqyAUVRApGw9gLe2u07.png?ex=66febcf7&is=66fd6b77&hm=ee174ea94294763b25caf8ac276796181a39e35fed5c33783eb03467d5e34543&

[static rock]

Anyone figured out what the % nerf is?

[next coyote]

Nobody worth their salt uses cyclone anyways

[drifting violet]

i love this pic

[quartz tulip]

prot warrior is probably the best warrior spec in the game currently

[drifting violet]

where did u get it

[hard widget]

#updates-midnight

[drifting violet]

i meant the pic

haha

[hard widget]

What?

[gaunt moat]

Prot warriors are actually invincibles rn

[quartz tulip]

best warrior spec by far

[stoic star]

@tardy axle when did you use drums?

mid fight or on pull

[tardy axle]

i didnt

didnt need it

[drifting violet]

nvm it wasnt you

[tardy axle]

i would just blow it at the start of the second phase after the transition phase

[warm crag]

what does this show

[gaunt moat]

Well guys i've doomed enough

Good night

[stoic star]

Are you all dooming because of the anniversary nerfs?

[static rock]

So is RA still better?

[stoic star]

Im sure it will be like s3 df and we have to go arms again

[clear tendon]

Do the buffs to BT and RB counteract the slayer nerfs? How does it net out?

[drifting violet]

where did u get that pic man

[warm crag]

wdym s3 df was literally the best fury tier in a while

[drifting violet]

seems like a random ai

[warm crag]

it was revealed to me

[drifting violet]

a superior being i guess

tell me more of those revelations

[stoic star]

nerfs happen. gear a 2nd class. blizzard doesnt give af about us complaining. they never do lol

[warm crag]

No.

[grim prism]

no maths wizard calculated the impact of the coming changes?

[warm crag]

#updates-midnight

[static rock]

So is RA still better is the real question?

[weary sail]

https://youtu.be/w0bEm9XrM3A?si=57V8XYNP1fDLG-3B

Arms nerf by 2%
Fury nerf by 0.2%

Why arms getting strayed nerfs

[arctic sinew]

this is on top of the target cap right?

[red coral]

Yes

[clear tendon]

Looks like we aren’t getting the aoe soft cap though? Or is that already in

[warm crag]

for most of raid ye probably

[quartz tulip]

I think I am done for now, this balancing team doesnt play the game or have something personal against warriors, my sub runs out on november 3rd idk when the patch comes out but i guess around there and I won't sub again, I will have my fun with this game till then go back to a mmo that the devs play the game

[trail bane]

Frost complained and they are getting a ton of changes to switch the playstyle from spamming ice lance to casting glacial spike.

The problem isnt that Blizzard doesnt listen to complaints. The problem is that they arent listening to warrior complaints.

[warm crag]

u almost got me again

[grim prism]

that is so fucking hilarious

[weary sail]

Linc made a post

[quartz tulip]

Linc is still shilling

[warm crag]

linc is a liberal

@restive peak

[static rock]

b/c the idiotic devs hate that we had a good 2 weeks

[weary sail]

@restive peak we getting nerf again even with your great forum post

[drifting violet]

it makes 0 sense

[next coyote]

Just play what you like

[quartz tulip]

This @restive peak trying to salvage warrior and now look more nerfs but we good right

[red coral]

What if you like doing challenging content that requires other players to want to play with your character

[weary sail]

Okay again, even if fury isnt the best and its medicore that is fine. But why nerf us even further???

[lament hinge]

only if the community would allow that

[drifting violet]

we do, but they keep shitting on us

[warm crag]

0.2% nerf

[static rock]

I am, they just keep fucking nerfing out of existance

[next coyote]

Its a .2% nerf

[warm crag]

0.2% nerf

[drifting violet]

and how much have they nerfed, enh fire and arcane

[weary sail]

Hilarious that Arms getting 2% nerf

[next coyote]

Cmon guys we had a good run during heroic week /s

[static rock]

So they think the solution is nerfing the little ST we have? yeah

[soft merlin]

Devs got a warrior hate team 100%

[drifting violet]

we did but its so exhausting man

[warm crag]

0.2% nerf

[next coyote]

ST is buffed

[quartz tulip]

At this point I don’t see why I shouldn’t just class change to paladin. More male range, damage, and utility than warrior and yet warrior keeps getting nerfed. Why even make the class if they don’t want anyone to play it?

[warm crag]

i'd gain that much dps if i started tracking opportunist

[drifting violet]

id gain more if i had eggs

[quartz tulip]

Bro, why do they keep doing this? Has Blizzard not invented the technology to balance spec-shared abilities differently for each spec? Not even mentioning that this is still unnecessary nerfs. As an arms main we keep catching strays even though our spec is already very mid and we fucking struggle in M+.

[drifting violet]

but i have seen 7 dropped today on other ppl

[weary sail]

If my grandma had wheels she would be a car

[stiff kiln]

What HP do people have? I'm at 610 and only at 5.2M

[static rock]

Them saying they're "buffing" our ST is a load of bull, they just wanted to make AM in line with RA while also nerfing it

[warm crag]

good point

[gaunt pelican]

0.2% nerf to the class losing to aug voker on ST

[red coral]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-and-day-ice-cream-tom-cruise-dessert-eating-ice-cream-gif-26997395

[stiff kiln]

Im getting one shot by frontal on NW first boss in a 9 if I dont pop a CD

That seems stupid

[red coral]

Just play what you like

[warm crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1092305924871438398/1113696156690690108/umi-rizz.gif

[drifting violet]

5.7 618

[tired brook]

thats the point of defensives..?

[stiff kiln]

I thought Fury had higher stam because of 2 2handers

[oblique trail]

6.2 627

[weary sail]

The nerfs to fury is whatever. You all should be used to it by now

But arms 2% nerfs are hilarious

[stiff kiln]

Yes, obviously

[warm crag]

6.8 million 622 (i used the trinket)

[oblique trail]

8.0 626 sorry got it wrong

[stiff kiln]

My point is other people didnt have to do so

[warm crag]

9.0 (640)

[weary sail]

[drifting violet]

show the AM before that

[warm crag]

good thing you keep cropping the most important part

[weary sail]

We not running AM and its still worse than RA so whats the point???

[warm crag]

this is a self report

[stiff kiln]

611 dk has 6 mil, weird

[weary sail]

Still gonna run RA for the majority of fight in raid

[next coyote]

Just but rank 2 tempered it'll make up for the loss 🙂

[sick jungle]

def stance not enough?

[red coral]

The bad talent you still won’t play gains 5% 👍

[next coyote]

Rank 3 tempered potion gang

[drifting violet]

passive 20% stamina

[stiff kiln]

Yeah, it is, just didnt expect to need it on a 9 is all

[weary sail]

Dude they buff mountain thane fury by 5%

[sick jungle]

oh

[warm crag]

played in raid right now and will be played in m+ wdym

this is a self report

[sick jungle]

good habit tbh, i use def stance as much as I can

[gilded pawn]

AM will genuinely be played in m+

[next coyote]

Just upgrade ur bracers my guys

[sudden tusk]

as valid as the whold AM gains 5% thing is

[gilded pawn]

we literally had the exact same discussion 3 years ago

[gilded pawn]

its actually funny

[red coral]

I love playing AM in raid (1 boss)

[odd star]

why play AM in raid. our cds already align with adds

[sudden tusk]

the reality is the only thing most people care about is how much damage you can actually do

[weary sail]

Still worse than RA? This is even a worse self report

[drifting violet]

its 5% to the am build, not over the slayer actual build

[sudden tusk]

5% to AM doesnt mean anything if its still behind RA

[warm crag]

no they dont (ovinax) (if you dont have 3 fdks) (you probably dont)

[oblique trail]

And AM will likely end up being the higher overall build now

[weary sail]

5% buff to a talent that still worse than RA

[odd star]

oh ovinax yeah

[warm crag]

enough

[weary sail]

But i think spongie is baiting at this point 🤷‍♂️

[red coral]

He is

[weary sail]

Why fall for the bait

[warm crag]

how'd you get to that conclusion

[buoyant blade]

balance team has no fucking clue I don't think they play warrior at all

[next coyote]

We're all just living in a frost dk world

[weary sail]

5% to a talent that u still wont use and still worse than RA

[next coyote]

Accept it

[weary sail]

Still a nerf overall

[next coyote]

Learn from it

[oblique trail]

You are self reporting that you don't play mythic nor consider the impact it will have in M+

[cold silo]

What is AM and what is RA

[warm crag]

if you play AM in m+ after that patch goes through i will report you to all 600k+ members of this server

[fallen olive]

Congrats man! Any advice?/Build

[static rock]

anger management and reckless abandon

[next coyote]

Arena meistro and rugged attacks

[weary sail]

Do it, pin it

[cold silo]

one was better before and the other is better after patch or something?

[static rock]

no

RA is still better after the nerf to it and buff to AM

[drifting violet]

some friends told me that tanking it is easier, i didnt tr it yet so i havent tested it yet

damn i speak english like an ape

[static rock]

that's why this whole "we buffed their ST" dev note is bs

[next coyote]

Cant wait to see all the new prot warriors applying to my keys on 20th anniversary

[cold silo]

I can’t even find the anger management talent

[next coyote]

More tanks = good

[static rock]

it's on the RA talent choise

it's either RA or AM

[cold silo]

Ahhh

[static rock]

red guy yelling bottom right

[drifting violet]

why would there be more prots?

[drifting pond]

ur not gino lil bro

[next coyote]

Are you reading this chat?

[trail bane]

Guys, new copium just dropped. Maybe Blizzard is making fury feel like shit because they are making a spec revamp in 11.1 and want people to have extra good reactions???

[arctic sinew]

I will take that copium

[soft merlin]

just make SMF work at these point holy fuck

[weary sail]

https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc?si=erhDaVc75oMAvRtJ

[oblique trail]

Yeah lets make SMF work so the spec is even worse and more horrible

Good idea

[weary sail]

Still a GOAT video

[warm crag]

so true!

[drifting violet]

thats insane amounts of copium so let me add more, they will revamp thunderfury too so fury can use 2 of them

[unreal shell]

The chefs are Blizzard are on a major cook, dropping bonus aperetif nerfs while we wait for the main course anniversary nerfs

[warm crag]

@fickle bluff thank you greg for her reacting

[fickle bluff]

np

[arctic sinew]

Bring back old deep wounds sfx

and i dont care about any nerfs

[drifting violet]

that was bis af

[weary sail]

Bring back vanilla fury warrior

[arctic sinew]

just log on vanilla, crit a mob then go back to TWW and feel like a noodle

[static rock]

[upbeat pulsar]

So from what i can see more fury nerfs

[unreal shell]

20/20 vision

[drifting violet]

at least mortal strike sfx is nice

[drifting pond]

just play rogue

[weary sail]

Fury nerfs are w/e. Arms nerfs tho are hilarious keep getting stray nerfs

[drifting violet]

not like cleave, that sound is shit, i hate that build mainly coz of the sfx

[unreal shell]

It's ok, my enhance hit 80 and it's delve week. Back to the mines I go

[drifting pond]

people play with sounds on?

[trail bane]

oh god im practising arms and there are so many dogshit buttons involved atm. Like, name an ability that makes you run for the toilet to puke more than Skullsplitter

[drifting violet]

imagine playing grim batol without sound, thats the best thing of that dungeon

the music

[weary sail]

You didnt play Arms in Legion

Focused Rage was an abomination

[trail bane]

I did

[drifting pond]

id rather listen to taylor swift than wow music

[trail bane]

And yea, that was kinda horrid as well

All thought i know a lot of warrior liked that

[drifting violet]

u tripping

[weary sail]

I remembered macroing hamstring with focused rage

[warm crag]

extremely popular opinion

[next coyote]

Is fury ultimately going to be better in m+ keys than arms?

[weary sail]

But the good rhing is fury was insanely good in nighthold

My fav

[next coyote]

+12s

[trail bane]

I actually made my warrior my alt in Legion, Shadow Priest was too amazing not to play

[oblique trail]

Imagine if we had another raid tier in current era wow where Fury was also good

[trail bane]

Might actually be the most fun spec i've played ever in WoW. Legion Shadow Priest

[weary sail]

My GOAT

Bring back DoS

[trail bane]

Actually making me excited for Legion Classic

[drifting pond]

i was in 5th grade when legion released

[arctic sinew]

Legion is the only expac i've skipped and ppl keep telling me blizz made it really good in later patches

Sadge

[warm crag]

holy shit 34x4x3 damage

[trail bane]

First patch was kinda shit, but playing Shadow Priest made even that bareable

[warm crag]

garms just died on ovinax

[trail bane]

Surrender To Madness is the best talent to ever make it to live

[weary sail]

My baby trinket

[arctic sinew]

Yeah i quit legion cause of that cancer AP + rep grind

[weary sail]

Legion was good!

I felt like WoW actually came back to main stream popularity due to legion

Then shadowlands fuck it

[warm crag]

fury just got nerfed in the hotfix wtf

check wowhead

[weary sail]

If you lying im going to execute you

[upbeat pulsar]

At this point i may aswell make enhance my main. Pretty much just as geared and pumps more damage. But i also expect them to be gutted like fury

[arctic sinew]

another spongie bait?

[drifting pond]

yes

[oblique trail]

Sir the 27th Fury nerf just landed

[drifting violet]

its like the second plane message

[warm crag]

no but the unsocketable timewalking item hotfix not being retroactive is very funny

[arctic sinew]

that's kinda funny yea

[static rock]

Is bloodmallet any good for sims?

[drifting pond]

real

[weary sail]

How you do that so fast

[trail bane]

I sim lower as arms than i do as fury because i have 15k mastery

T_T

[warm crag]

link the sims

[trail bane]

No i feel ashamed

[drifting pond]

ctrl + shift + i

pointer

[warm crag]

me when i lie for skyhold clout

[drifting pond]

thingy in the corner

left side

[oblique trail]

I sim 130k more as Arms than Fury

[drifting pond]

its ez

[hollow spindle]

Wrong take. Best version of arms was first tier of legion smh.

[oblique trail]

Therefore I will never play Fury in raid again I think

[trail bane]

You're right Spongie, i actually sim 20k dps higher as arms

or well, 16k

[warm crag]

This is not a link

[drifting pond]

deserved for playing troll

[weary sail]

If you enjoy focused rage play style you must have been a masochist

[trail bane]

I know as i said, i wont link it because im ashamed

[oblique trail]

Because believe it or not that Arms actually is just tuned better for ST than Fury is

[warm crag]

Your opportunity has passed and I will send a ballistic missile inmediately

[oblique trail]

Even if your stats are suboptimal

[heavy dock]

someone tell me how dogshit is this trinket

[trail bane]

BUT I WILL HAVE TO PRESS SKULLSPLITTER

[heavy dock]

i just bought it for the ilvl lol still on 606 trinkets

[trail bane]

I really really dont want to

[drifting pond]

dogshit no str

[trail bane]

Bring back Ignore Pain in dps rotation arms

I would rather press that than Skullsplitter

[heavy dock]

wel proc can give 9.6k str

[oblique trail]

Yeah that was for sure a good iteration of Arms

[weary sail]

Bring back cataclysm Slam

[trail bane]

No it was shit

[drifting pond]

can give

[trail bane]

But still better than Skullsplitter

[arctic sinew]

i havent enjoyed any arms since vanilla -> cata version

[weary sail]

Make Execute do real damage again for Fury

[olive wraith]

Bring back anni(make it uncapped aoe)

[arctic sinew]

or well mop too i guess but only cause it pumped

[trail bane]

I enjoyed Season 1 and 2 of Shadowlands arms

[restive peak]

Ew

[weary sail]

Linc you got us nerf again

Gj

[static rock]

I swear, what are they basing these nerfs and buffs on? Cause there is no pattern at all

[weary sail]

Heroic week

You all pump too hard on adds

Now you suffer

Should have sandbag

[trail bane]

Our burst aoe is too good, people are complaining that they dont get to aoe adds on Broodtwister or break webs on Ansurek

[next coyote]

If wcl removed adds from logs we wouldnt have been touched 100%

[static rock]

but why does this still matter? RTWF is over

[trail bane]

Problem is that Blizzard designed themselves into a corner and made our entire aoe oriented around burst, and our single target tangled with our sustain aoe. So they cant nerf our sustain aoe or single target to compensate

[weary sail]

Next tier we need to sandbag heroic week

Ty

[trail bane]

What they should have done from the start is reduce Bladestorm, Thunderous Roar, Spear of Bastion and Odyns Fury dmg by 30-40%

And then buffed raging blow and bloodthirst

and rampage

Until our single target isnt dogshit

[red coral]

They should make every ability shit and increase our auto attack damage one billion percent

[next coyote]

And made us all reroll arms

[restive peak]

We are not good unless somethin more happens at 11.0.5

[snow edge]

Do you feel Powerful Enrage is a noticable difference in keys @restive peak? On paper it just shows as a loss for me, but assume it's (largely) a better choice since most are running it

[arctic sinew]

then make BT, RB & rampage passive procs on autos

[weary sail]

They should make odyn fury heal the mob to compensate at this point

[restive peak]

Absolutely you're inting w FE

[kindred swallow]

Just make anger management good again and it would be fine i think tbh

[weary sail]

Delete powerful enrage

[haughty basin]

is there anything more based than aspiring to just be a purple heroic parser

[snow edge]

Whoah savage

Alright

[olive wraith]

That’s what they’re doing

[restive peak]

I mean our job in M+ rn is to giga burst every 1.5m, and do good boss dam

[weary sail]

You made an amazing post on the forum. So blizzard listened and nerf both fury and arms some more

[restive peak]

You're losing 15% ability dmg on your giga burst

[next coyote]

Green mythic enjoyer vs purple heroic virgin

[restive peak]

Unfortunately, these nerfs were def already being run which is insanity

[haughty basin]

fuck thats a good point

[weary sail]

Fury is whatever at this point. Arms catching 2% nerfs for no good reason

[snow edge]

Yeh I understand the logic, just been rolling with ST sim results and it showed it as a loss.. but appreciate the direction, cheers bud

[restive peak]

No stress homie

But ye, mostly you can sim ST for M+ and just trinket swap...except that

[next coyote]

When all is said and done we'll still blast 7 mil aoe in m+

Do not worry gamers

[kindred swallow]

They are band aiding the shit ton of nerfs that they are doing, with these buffs we are still gonna feel like shit after the nerfs

Season 1 of shadowlands with am and venthyr thingy was pretty good i think

[haughty basin]

wait have there been new nerfs announced?

[olive wraith]

They made it relatively good with the planned changes

[weary sail]

2% arms nerf. 0.2% fury nerf

Check announcement

[kindred swallow]

Eh i hope so idk if people are really gonna change to am anyways tho

[olive wraith]

In keys probably

[inland flame]

Just watched the Critcake video is this where I go for emotional support

[weary sail]

He already re roll DK

Traitor!

[next coyote]

All doom and gloom gamers up in here sorry

[kindred swallow]

Are the 5 target cap still gonna hit us or did they change that for these changes?

[next coyote]

Still hitting

[olive wraith]

That hasn’t been reverted

[inland flame]

Man 11.0.5 is gonna be roooooough

[olive wraith]

Hence why I think AM is gonna be the play in keys

[weary sail]

Yes

[static rock]

So why tf are they doing nerf after nerf without even having them hit first?

[next coyote]

Great question, let me show you the week 1 heroic logs again

[weary sail]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[kindred swallow]

Actually i think the cap nerfs would be fine if the conduit from shadowlands that made whirlwind do actual damage came back aswell

[olive wraith]

s2 is gonna be giga for am

[next coyote]

Bring back fury s3 shadowlands, front loading everything into bladestorm sucks balls anyways

[kindred swallow]

Our only job is to burst in aoe and we are soft caped lol

[inland flame]

I really like AM, but man. Arms catching the strays is so funny and sad to me, too. I really like playing Arms for the ST fights in raid rn.

[kindred swallow]

Maybe with am mountain thane is gonna be worth for mythics?

[arctic sinew]

Bonegrinder? That was fun af

[olive wraith]

Thane st is ass

[inland flame]

Thane is SO BAD for ST tho

[kindred swallow]

That ye

[static rock]

So they just refuse to look at recent raid logs, like I was saying

[next coyote]

Oh no theyre too busy simping at arcane mage frost dk logs

[olive wraith]

30 second BS doesn’t sound bad to me

[kindred swallow]

Right i mean we cant deal dmg st anywats so just full commit into adds

[olive wraith]

AM is barely behind ra

[weary sail]

You gonna do like 700k dps on ST with Thane

Pls no

[kindred swallow]

Ye im joking i forgot thane is terrible for st

[static rock]

If they keep it up with these nerfs that's gonna be better than Slayer ST

[storm birch]

anyone know if pulling ulgrax but not killing will lock you to mythic lockout

[buoyant salmon]

it wont

if you dont kill it

[kindred swallow]

Ive always prefered AM so hope it does become the better choice again

[storm birch]

oh thank jesus this group will never kill

[inland flame]

me as Mountain Thane on Arak last boss pumping 200k dps into her during my 20% uptime

[kindred swallow]

Even if we still do 0 damage at least its more fun

[olive wraith]

30 second BS should be good for keys

[arctic sinew]

Blasting

[nimble ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

MOUNTAIN THANE ST DAMAGE

[kindred swallow]

Now that you guys are talking about bladestorm i just remembered, since the start of the season i swear to god i can never get the 3 stacks from one of the slayer talents idk the name before my cooldowns come back up

[olive wraith]

I think you’re doing something wrong then

[kindred swallow]

I just have no idea what cuz i feel like im doing everything right

[nimble ermine]

are you pressing execute

[kindred swallow]

On 3 stacks yeah

And when they are gonna die before the stacks

[arctic sinew]

u dont always need to wait for 3 stacks in m+

[haughty basin]

thats it fuckers, its time for single minded fury

[arctic sinew]

just send it sometimes to reduce BS cd or if ur gonna drop SD

[nimble ermine]

mental illness

[safe juniper]

Can all warriors jus challenge bliz on the fury nerfs

its crazy

[kindred swallow]

Yeah i just dont know when its better to stack it up or just press it for bladestorm cd

[olive wraith]

are you switching targets often

[inland flame]

Just gonna go Thane for keys and take the points out of Armored to the Teeth to pick up my super-free-like-the-other-guys 2-point stamina talent and just put "at least I won't die" in my app notes

[kindred swallow]

Not really i mean sometimes i do when they are low but yeah

[trail bane]

Top 2000 rio score by class.

Guess whos getting nerfed?

[kindred swallow]

I usually just stick to one so i can stack it up

[olive wraith]

You shouldn’t have issues getting 3 stacks in 1.5mins then

Idk

[eager thorn]

doesnt rlly matter since m+ alone isnt what balance is based off of

[kindred swallow]

Yeah i really dont get what im doing wrong

[inland flame]

P sure you don't have to eat a Slayers Mark with SD to get a stack

[kindred swallow]

I either get 3 stacks ar random times or i get my cds back up and i have 1 or 2 stacks

[upper heron]

They can't stop us all, we know where they live (blizzard HQ I assume) and I'm 99% certain all of us own multiple swords irl

[arctic sinew]

just use SD if it's gonna fall off and u dont have 3 stacks of BS

[trail bane]

No, but its part of the game for a lot of people. So is single target and sustained aoe fights like Silken Court.

Fury is getting nerfed because our burst AoE is too strong and its hurting every single other aspect of the game for us.

[olive wraith]

You know what’s funny. I bet there’s a large portion that is prot for war

[weary sail]

Blizzard only cares about raids

[trail bane]

this is only dps

[trail bane]

this is healers and tanks

[olive wraith]

Ah gothcha

[low folio]

So are the new changes seen today on the ptr an overall
Nerd or buff

[trail bane]

One would imagine maybe Resto Shamans would be getting some huge nerfs

[olive wraith]

Lmao shammy

[eager thorn]

ye this p much makes the dps graph matter even less

[inland flame]

Only 4th from the bottom, I saw we're thriving too much tbh

[eager thorn]

cos ur prob not gonna run 2 warrs in high keys

[kindred swallow]

Alr thx ill see if that does it

[static rock]

nerf

[eager thorn]

so if tank is meta then ur not gonna take dps

[inland flame]

Only buff by numbers is Arms Colossus ST

[trail bane]

It doesnt. DKs are taking as many spots in top 2000 as 6 other classes in dps.

[eager thorn]

yea and dk is also really strong for m+

[weary sail]

You not gonna run dps warrior period. DKs rogue enh ret are better

[low folio]

Man they really hate fury

[eager thorn]

ye there you go then

[inland flame]

I miss the days of god comp where you could not be meta but still be good

[eager thorn]

not running warr at all so high rio score not having warrs dont really matter

[trail bane]

But guys, have you seen how good we are at killing parasites on Broodtwister and webs on Ansurek?

Thats totally worth being dogshit at everything else

Right?

[static rock]

we had one dev see the fuckery happen last expansion and tried to help us and the rest hammered us into the fucking ground

[kindred swallow]

We are getting the hunter treatment, just change the focus back to those guys

[olive wraith]

Just to be clear you’re talking about this?

[eager thorn]

nobody is saying the nerfs are warranted

my point is just that the correlation between warr dps in high m+ keys doesnt rlly matter in relation to the nerfs

[arctic sinew]

In my opinion fury should get nerfed even more

[eager thorn]

facts

get all the shit fotm players off my class

[low folio]

Matters to me. I don’t wanna be nerfed 5 times in a row until I’m trash

[kindred swallow]

I exexute when they have 3 stacks of those yes but i started the convo with the bladestorm stacks not with those

[arctic sinew]

We are still above aug in ST which isn't really fair for the lizard mains

[inland flame]

only if it also nerfs arms but not on purpose

[upper heron]

If they nerf us enough we can complain until they rework the class again lol

[inland flame]

or comes with funny pointless nerfs like the Warbreaker target cap

[olive wraith]

Ah I thought you meant you don’t get the cdr stacks

[trail bane]

The point, @eager thorn, is that the person assigning nerfs to fury (and also hitting arms) clearly doesnt know what he is doing. And is just kneejerk reaction nerfing based on how our dmg looks on a small subset of raid bosses. With no thought on how it affects the rest of the game.

[kindred swallow]

Ah no sorry i meant i never have the bladestorm ones

The execute stacks are fine

[red coral]

There will be no one left to complain except the idiot copers who like the class fantasy (being completely shit in all content)

[inland flame]

I mean I want to get to take my stamina talent or be Mountain Thane without losing three QOL talents so sign me tf up

[olive wraith]

This one?

[low folio]

I mean if fury gets even more nerfs after this, I’ll just have to play another game lol.

[flint otter]

i'm pretty sure i'ma just reroll after this round, some horse shit

[kindred swallow]

No the one on the second row, the helmet icon i really dont remember the name

That makes bladestorm spin more

[hasty sable]

why is it even a big deal if you need 1 or 2 warriors for 2 bosses in the raid because they have burst aoe? doesn't mean they should be subpar to other plates in 90% of group content

[stoic star]

Trying to do this Solo Zekvirs Lair achievement is cursed. the RNG is insane. might just wait until we are fully geared lol. wasted all night.

[arctic sinew]

Especially when they are the ones who decided to spawn adds for every burst window

[inland flame]

its tough if he gets a couple crits on you for sure

[stoic star]

My problem is he spawns the egg hella far away

if I charge to it too quick

he focus' frontals me

[inland flame]

yeah you just have to be really aware, dont run straight over unless you have leap, etc

if you're geared enough its p reasonable to kill them fast enough so you can take a second getting there

[haughty basin]

THAT MAGE SLICE ISNT BIG ENOUGH HOLY SHIT SOMEONE AT BLIZZARD BUFF THEM THINK OF THE CHILDREN

[inland flame]

tough ranged lust class is a hell of a drug

[olive wraith]

Didn’t fire get nerfed

[solar forum]

This i feel like is the ONLY baseline of which the nerfs are based on btw

blizzard has aboslutely no fuckng idea about this game

[inland flame]

at least with the RB and BT buffs our ST stays the same basically

so bad

[kindred swallow]

Wait until they remove bladestorm from fury and make it arms exclusive again

[inland flame]

nah we're gonna start using AM all the time and then they're going to see Bladestorm do better from more casts and then nerf it by 25% or take it off AM

[kindred swallow]

Also another question am i suposed to be using bladestorm after odyn comes off cd for the first time while the other cds are still on cd or the timers dont line up?

Ive just been using everything on pull and then a lone odyn when it comes back up

And then everything again

[inland flame]

To my understanding, you generally don't want to hold BS for more than 10-15-ish seconds unless it lets you strike extra targets by holding it

[summer crater]

Is it a tooltip error or is plainsrunner's breeze and scout's march really identical at max quality (and plainsrunner better at lower quality)?

[kindred swallow]

Its just cuz sometimes bladestorm comes back almost at the same time as odyns but if i use it with odyns the other 3 will be at like 30 sec cds and bladestorm will be at 1min

So idk if its worth to use it or not

I guess if i had any luck with procs it would line up regardless bcz of cd reduction

[inland flame]

Generally more Storms > optimal Storms

[kindred swallow]

Alright

Lets say i use it like that then, and my cds come back up but bladestorm is still at like 20 secs do i hold or just fuck it and use cds without bladestorm?

[north edge]

its same

[summer crater]

Good way to save tens of thousands of gold at least

[north edge]

250 speed is kinda ass though

[summer crater]

Odd

Yeah

[vocal latch]

guys with the future nerfs comming to fury warrior it still worth playing fury? i want to level up one but im afraid blizzard destroys fury dmg

[wooden gust]

noob question so when i have empowered raging blow up suddent death and empowered bloodthirst in a AOE perspective where would that bloodthirst land in my rotation assuming im playing slayer

[north edge]

A green tertiary stat rolls like 800 speed on a piece of gear

[summer crater]

I mean all boot enchants are ass

[wanton cliff]

Anyone got a link to lincs post on wow forums

[eager thorn]

did blizz change zekvir so you cant just farm ? mode for runed crests

[inland flame]

That probably depends on if holding your CDs is likely to cost you a use of them. For all CDs really, more > optimal.

[tender magnet]

Do we swap arms now?

Or

?

What's better

[static rock]

both sh*t in general, like blizzard devs wanted

[prisma rose]

Swap to dk

Thats better

[kindred swallow]

Sudden death if you have 3 stacks> empowered ragin blow> empowered bloodthirst if im not mistaken