fury

[spare steppe]

I’ll wait for archi to do the math

[humble plover]

doesnt apply to the buttons we actually use tho so

math small

[crisp prism]

what

[young ether]

so theyre nerfing slayer, then increasing bloodthirst and raging blow dmg but not bb and cb. AND SAY ITS GONNA BE ST BUFF??

[south kayak]

Well, that's because you're mostly using BB and CB

lol

[static minnow]

I love Blizzard

[south kayak]

what a surprise

[hard widget]

Wtf is this

[humble plover]

yeah so buffing the versions we dont use doesnt do anything

crazzzy

[coarse moon]

Someone do quick maffs

[crisp prism]

fresh tuning announcement for anniversary

[static minnow]

0%

ez

[royal crater]

Free pinnacles at bugzzard

[young ether]

so theyre nerfing our best aoe and st hero talents. then buffing the weaker st talent. and say we buffed?? fuck blizzard after CE im fucking done

[crisp prism]

so we playing anger management again seems like ?

[rare storm]

does this item sim well?

[spare steppe]

Aw I thought the buffs to raging blow and blood thirst would be enough

[humble plover]

sim it and see

[rare storm]

thanks taters, very cool

[hard widget]

Is blizzard taking a piss with us or what

[hazy spruce]

Any number crunchers to make light of the this?

[humble plover]

it doesnt sim well for me casue i dont need a hero wep. it may sim well for you if you need it

[young ether]

not even buffinf mountain thane st xD

[hard widget]

Who the fuck came up with this

He needs to get fired

[floral summit]

Blizz hates u warriors, seems rolling dk was good bet this season

[hard widget]

I mean this

Like bro

[crisp prism]

i think i'm rerolling fdk for m+

[floral summit]

Neverending torment

[south kayak]

I'm confused lol, what's the issue?

[hardy cargo]

cope is we just play AM again

[spare steppe]

They could have just written crushing blow

[crisp prism]

no dk nerfs btw

lmao

[olive wraith]

So AM might be the play now for keys?

[floral summit]

Meanwhile bala gets another buffs rofl

[rigid dove]

Who let Blizzard cook?

[south kayak]

That's for next patch, not this one

[tender sky]

I’d rather wipe and be on top of the meters 🤡

[cursive ridge]

Rerolling dk is the play for keys

[floral summit]

Next patch is like month away

[south kayak]

Tuning nerfs/buffs are most likely coming this weeks sometime

[crisp prism]

nah they said its for anniversary

it will come to ptr

[young swan]

lol

[edgy widget]

smh

avg box comment

[frank dawn]

bruh, what did we do to piss off the warrior dev

what is happening

[south kayak]

What have I said wrong?

[crisp prism]

i have better idea for blizzard , just delete dps warrior

[cedar depot]

I don't want to play anger management, save us @edgy widget

[floral summit]

Warriors are cursed

[crisp prism]

they are wasting resources legit

[floral summit]

You guys are already dead lol and they still desecrate ur husks

[crisp prism]

double tapping

actually not even double

triple ? quadruple ?

[floral summit]

What sins u did commit for such treatment

[humble plover]

be good on H week

[crisp prism]

all i did was spinning on heroic dungeon week

[spare steppe]

What’s wrong with spinning?

[storm rune]

Remember when warrior was good in that season that everyone quit? That still counts in blizzard's mind

Arms cleaved, and fury wept

[floral summit]

That was legion, 2 weeks of patch 7.2

[pine echo]

nighthold fury with the guldan trinket

[warped bone]

Are blizz just daft?

[humble plover]

ofc

[tender sky]

Good movement!!!

[ruby badge]

Remember when we used to pop reck and hit our guldan trinket and life was good.

[distant geyser]

Wait are we nerfed again

[spare steppe]

I feel like even if arms is meta you’d go fury for the blowing up the adds part

[forest owl]

wait what

[teal hawk]

i thought april fools was in april not in october, wtf is this blue post

[rare storm]

ok i got the syringe

[hard widget]

Time for Anger management to take over again 😎

[ruby badge]

We are nerfbuffed

[uneven path]

Maybe more tuning is coming ?

[distant geyser]

Why nerf slayer with no MT buffs lol

I hate them

[tender sky]

I personally like anger management, staying rage capped is weird

[south kayak]

The nerfs to Overwhelmed and Culling Cyclone are very stupid

[stiff barn]

Idd

[ruby badge]

[uneven path]

To bring it more in line xD

[cedar depot]

I like how everyone asked for mountain thane buff so they nerfed slayer 🤡

[young ether]

instead of nerfing slayer maybe buff mountain thane??

[crisp prism]

i'm kinda happy for that but i think they also need to buff rampage

[uneven path]

Yeh I am getting to danger lvl with coping at this point

[merry night]

we all need to get on the PTR and do awful so they give us more buffs bc those changes are still meh

[twin flame]

I’m cool with them nerfing slayer and buffing Thane to compensate. But they forgot to do the 2nd part.

[plush crown]

Are these in addition to the target reduction of odyns and TR or were those reverted

[teal hawk]

at this point i dont think warrior has some dedicated devs..those changes are tone deaf reaction from blizzard

[ruby badge]

We moonkins now?

[hallow cipher]

are these bad or good buffs ?

[warped bone]

They are just daft. Literally no idea what they are doing

[hallow cipher]

i dont get it

[crisp prism]

in addition

[merry night]

no we're the warlock community when they dont have 1 spec at #1

[coarse moon]

Do these cancel out the target cap nerf or is this in addition?

[radiant plank]

in addition

[twin flame]

Nope those are still happening

[teal hawk]

they would have mentioned it

[crisp prism]

i mean any buff is good buff but i dont think they are enough to compensate slayer nerfs and target cap stuff

[teal hawk]

i dont think anything is reverted

[hard widget]

Bro this aint no buff, this is just funny wording for making RA worse compared to AM. But am is shit atm

And now it will be equal ish

[hallow cipher]

they are literally killing fury in m+ ...

[feral ivy]

Anyone know what’s with this lag during raid? 1st boss and queen is where I get Massive lag. During the 1st boss mythic this was my screen for 10 seconds and someone said it was Elvui raid frames and so I tried that and that helped some but again still lag and only these 2 bosses

[south kayak]

And that's bad why lol

[merry night]

no, theyve given us a buff then a hard dick slap nerf

[crisp prism]

if AM becomes actually good ( not like you have to take it now cuz RA shit good) fury will be good in m+

but i dont think this makes AM desireable

it just makes it better then worse

[ruby badge]

Lower you details refresh time that helped alot of my guild.

[hallow cipher]

hmm yeah maybe well

[hard widget]

Its just that is looks like buffs but it aint gonna do fuck all

[vague copper]

What are you guys talking about?

[crisp prism]

i think if they buff rampage and maybe revert the unbridled ferocity

AM will become crazy good

but i doubt they will do it

[hard widget]

Dont get me wrong, i like AM. But pretty much only AM is getting buffed here compared to RA, u barely use Bloodthirst and Raging blow on RA, and the nerfs on oppertunist / overwhelmed / culling cyclone bring it right back down

But yeah, great we got buffs 🙂

[frank dawn]

AM Thane might be interesting in keys now tbh

but the spec as a whole is still down bad

[covert blaze]

changes are coolge

[south kayak]

We have to all understand that this isn't everything

[hardy cargo]

I pray no AM return while we play slayer, that shit plays like ass in mplus

[crisp prism]

i mean better then nothing but i also see this full anniversary thing as heavy nerf

[rigid stirrup]

They have a couple more weeks to cook

[crisp prism]

maybe there is something more coming

[south kayak]

Well, that's assuming you're not getting ANYTHING until then and even afterwards

[hardy cargo]

take it back or i start my channel to smite you

[south kayak]

which is doubtful

[rigid stirrup]

Praying devs actually find a middle ground somewhere

[molten wing]

i still don't like Avatar not being affected by AM

[covert blaze]

[crisp prism]

we gonna get nerfed twice probably till anniversary lol

cuz still we pumping on leveling dungeons

its really important

they cant let that happen

[wicked dew]

yeah having avatar and reck desynced sucks

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-gif-7617358462219751730

[queen linden]

I thought i'd be happier about getting buffs... but i'm still sadge

[stiff barn]

They reverted the affix buff

[night cedar]

Other nerf? Dafuq is that

[stiff barn]

So it's not 3x the hp anymore

[rigid stirrup]

Still find it weird how they just jumped the gun just based on heroic week logs and not from actual beefy content

[molten wing]

like if ret can have its burst every 30 secs i would like us to be able to use AM to bring all of our cds close to ~45 secs or lower

[crisp prism]

they hate warriors

thats why

[meager void]

...

[feral ivy]

How do I do this?

[rigid stirrup]

I believe in a give and take balance but it's literally been all take and little give in comparison

[crisp prism]

i'm surprised they didnt nerf us by looking at prepatch tuning

lol

[twin flame]

Lol that was quick. Hope that dev is reassigned to overwatch as well lmao

[nimble ermine]

no worries overwatch already has dogshit balancing

[stiff barn]

Imagine being an OW dev

[meager void]

Nice toddler takes. Hope we can get back to anime.

[olive wraith]

This is a thought. The buffs would increase st

[rigid stirrup]

Wait till deadlock comes out officially and overwatch will be turbo dedge

[cedar depot]

I hate that im not smart enough to understand the patch notes

[rigid stirrup]

Just to the updates channel above

Archi explains them quite well

[olive wraith]

Our fillers are getting buffed

[glad coyote]

regarding the void emissary affix this week, are we able to just delete this by using shattering throw?

[vague copper]

20 and 30 % to 0 is still 0

[young swan]

no

[meager void]

So was the CDr increase also reverted?

[cedar depot]

Why even touch culling cylone, that and brutal finish were like .1% apart

[south kayak]

No clue

just play Brutal now ig lmao

[glad coyote]

but monks can ToD it and get rid of it instantly

[buoyant shard]

Have a quick thing to ask @edgy widget - WoWhead says Masterful gems and on icy vein it says Qucik gems. What is more right ?

[young swan]

ok

our thing doesnt do that

[astral root]

Well, apparently AM is within 1% of RA. AM feels a lot better to me, specifically

[waxen vale]

I reading this right? in an attempt to buff our st they nerfed it? they buffed other options but not enough to be stronger and nerfed the original option?

[astral root]

so i think AM might be the play

[south kayak]

ok so this was intended to nerf arms

[slender perch]

More fucking nerfs. These devs are actually wankers

[wicked turret]

Guys If this is how feral druids were feeling back in the day I fucking feel sorry for them. This feels awful who only mains warrior.

[south kayak]

Good to know lol

[south kayak]

very slight nerfs

check the #updates-midnight

[spare basin]

can someone tell to blizzard to stop trying to kill fury warrior?

[young swan]

just retuning shit

[waxen vale]

when were bottom st and we get nerfed can someone explain? idc if its 1 fucking dps

[molten wing]

well AM my dear friend

hello again

[south kayak]

oh god

pog

[storm rune]

god pls no

[slender perch]

@south kayak it’s fucking constant. How many fucking nerfs have we seen?!

[south kayak]

nerds? damn

[forest owl]

so they buff a talent by nerfing the other talent xD

[rare storm]

whats the off set of putting a weapon in offhand?

[south kayak]

Well, RA was really much stronger than AM

this is a good change

[ruby badge]

I'm at work so not 100% sure but I think it's something like options>display>update interval

[molten wing]

they buffed AM indirectly by buffing RB/BT outside of RA

[south kayak]

now it's within a 1%, so you can play what you prefer

[young ether]

AM is still worse in st than RA after changes so our st dmg is just worse? Maybe we get slightly better in m+ since we can play AM without losing 100k st

[frozen field]

Lmao they just reverted the hp on the affix

[south kayak]

yes, you are correct

[forest owl]

im just curious how AM would affect timing of CDs in raid

[slender perch]

Everyone needs to change to arms now

[molten wing]

if you care about ST you dont play fury anyway , you go arms

[slender perch]

This is bullshit

[south kayak]

Btw

These nerfs were mainly for arms, as their damage loss is way worse than fury

[crisp prism]

nah abandon the ship

[south kayak]

fury being 0.2%

[crisp prism]

i heard outlaw is fine

or frost dk

[slender perch]

Jesus Christ

[south kayak]

which is basically nothing

[slender perch]

Who has a good in to these devs. It’s so shit. Why not nerf DK DH and Ret?!

[meager void]

Its doomer o'clock!

[south kayak]

I understand getting mad at nerfs but this ain't it. They're retuning damage overall for fury and arms

[spare basin]

they should just revert fury changes

[night cedar]

So de play is or play with AM or arms

fml

[meager void]

...

[heavy galleon]

they hate us, it's IMPOSSIBLE

day after day, it's worse than worse

[ruby badge]

Because we are op if the fight is exactly 18 seconds long. So they gotta balance us.

[storm rune]

Why are warriors like this?

[young swan]

10s actually

[meager void]

Plz someone set slowmode until the whiners with zero class knowledge desist

[modern gull]

wtf is this nerf they nerfed us in the ground ? i don't wanne play arms >.>

[crisp prism]

5 seconds take it or leave

[olive wraith]

This patch is also like a month away (ish)

[runic violet]

Prot warrior is doing good, lets nerf dps warriors

[olive wraith]

I am interested to see if this is enough for thane to see play

[edgy widget]

they both specify that it'll kinda depend on where your stats are, but generally you want to maximize haste and mastery up to a certain point

[molten wing]

and if there are 5 targets after the patch

[frozen tartan]

Would probably be better if they just stay away from trying to balance us.

[radiant plank]

[buoyant shard]

Thanks, was just trying to find out. Seens i was reading up on things. Will head my butt over to simming. So i will know more 🙂

[wary fjord]

classic blizz

[south kayak]

A rampage buff would be nice

[night cedar]

Im new to the fury since 3 months ago. Is arms playstole rly that bad like fury mains said?

[south kayak]

15% please

[thick elbow]

why the heck do they just keep nerfing fury i dont get it

[night cedar]

playstyle*

[warped bone]

Where are other classes nerfs

[wary fjord]

dont worry, blizz just nerfing cause we getting another lego that's warrior exclusive next patch

[short silo]

dropping 20 places in Raid wasnt enough, we are not at the dead bottom yet

[azure badger]

^

[sudden tusk]

Arms jugg experiment was a mistake

[raven oxide]

im new with warr 😄 what is AM fury?

[wary fjord]

anger management fury

[frozen field]

Anger management - a talent

[wary fjord]

rather than reckless abandon fury

or RA fury

[hollow ridge]

such a joke

[raven oxide]

oh i see, but its still a nerf isnt? cause we gonna be capped at 5 target

[inner shadow]

how good is this?

[raven oxide]

or we still fine

[inner shadow]

i got it from delve 8

[inner harbor]

what's the wa for the trinket please

[olive wraith]

Am is generally better in aoe. So we may still be ad burst niche

[night relic]

Type transmitter on wago and you’ll find something

[sudden tusk]

idk someone needs to put legos in the devs shoes

[feral ivy]

Same lol but ty I’ll check it out once I get home

[sudden tusk]

at this point

[raven oxide]

even at 5target capped? noice! so no reroll to dk

[azure badger]

How far behind was am in st?

[azure tulip]

If you don’t have stone vault neck or raid neck that’s pretty nice

[tidal kindle]

You think we have a dev?

[olive wraith]

I mean we were 5t capped in DF

[inner shadow]

from delve i just got it

lol

[frozen field]

Lmao

[frozen field]

8

[azure tulip]

Champion isn’t bad since it doesn’t make too much of a difference in strength since only stam

[gaunt moat]

does the am buff, buff thane aswell?

[ocean pelican]

https://wago.io/jX4s-GYvb/1

[south kayak]

It buffs fury in general

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t Bladestorm hit more than 5

[runic acorn]

It's a general nerf with slayer nerfs lol

[azure tulip]

Pog

[wary fjord]

it hits more than 5, but will softcap after 5 next patch

[olive wraith]

Bladestorm?

[south kayak]

I thought that was TR and OF

[wary fjord]

ye

[south kayak]

BS is still 8

[olive wraith]

I thought it was just roar and of

[wary fjord]

oh

[meager void]

AM ST is still dogpoo after this tuning?

[wary fjord]

right shit

they actually left BS alone

for now

[queen linden]

Ayyy, they reverted the affix change lol

[south kayak]

No, within a 1% of RA, so really close

[queen linden]

That's a W

[azure tulip]

FOR NOW

Key words

Lmao

[runic acorn]

Blizzard is clueless rn, just throwing shit at the wall

[olive wraith]

I do think having bs with am is kinda cringe

[tidal kindle]

How are we slated for more nerfs and dk untouched still

[forest owl]

just look at the buff to affix and revert with hours, they have no clue whats what atm with anything it seems

[tidal kindle]

[meager void]

AM was fun in keys, maybe this marks its comeback

[azure badger]

So if am st is within 1% of ra st does it mean am aoe is ahead of ra aoe?

[queen linden]

Oh ya know....

[olive wraith]

Yes

[molten wing]

@tidal kindle DK / Ret nerfs are in the next batch of nerf

[south kayak]

Aren't those patch notes for next patch in November? I'd guess that dk nerfs? are more immediate

[young ether]

am being buffed is very good, am should always be a solid if not better option for heavy aoe fights or keys. But RA actually getting a st nerf (however small) is just madness since its very bad compared to other classes

[wary fjord]

people, dont worry, they just letting people get super invested in their dk's for now

and then they will kill them

[south kayak]

RA isn't getting a st nerf tho

it's unchanged

[wary fjord]

[edgy widget]

this buff doesn't make it better in AoE though lol

[exotic fiber]

Are there any cap for secondary stat? About to craft Everforged Vambraces and wondering what secondary stat I should go for. Current stat in pic

[olive wraith]

I mean a teensy bit right? Since we’re casting more rb/bt

[forest owl]

archi cook those sims i wanna doom in my guild discord

[somber elk]

are there actually other changes for fury now than before announced?

[young ether]

no but the st is gonna go up in aoe build as well though right? which is its main loss in keys atm?

[plush crown]

Is buffing bloodthirst by 30% but raging blow only by 25% enough to change priorities a bit?

[south kayak]

don't think so

[olive wraith]

No

[young ether]

slayer being nerfed means RA being nerfed. Since mountain thane is poop

[minor kindle]

they specifically said it's for the unproc'd versions (so not crushing blow/bloodbath) so no

[queen linden]

I love how they can't just buff us... They had to throw in more nerfs

[meager void]

Yeah but the shorter CDs makes for a great m+ dmg profile

[sudden tusk]

HE WAS FUCKING WRONG

[queen linden]

So that's.... 4 rounds of nerfs with 1 round of buffs... Math ain't matching

[molten wing]

i mean they did buff RB

[edgy widget]

depends; desyncing also means shorter but weaker cooldowns

[granite glade]

these nerfs are just to weed out the nonbelievers

[meager void]

Oh something is def coming when they tune tier

[south kayak]

when

[molten wing]

Archi can we petition blizz somehow to include Avatar into the CD reduction of AM

[queen linden]

Oh I believe.... That fury is dog unless we get some serious love

[meager void]

Maybe another nerf? Kekw

[south kayak]

that would be giga

not happening

[warm crag]

fury is so back

[frozen field]

Can we get our tier set bonuses reworked at least?

[granite glade]

they won't let us remain dog

[south kayak]

can't get reworked in the middle of the tier

best you can get is buff or nerf

[pure echo]

What the fuck

[warm crag]

everyones tiers are this shit afaik

[pure echo]

What the actual fuck are they doing to fury dude

[south kayak]

nah

[olive wraith]

Promoting AM

[frozen field]

They're all boring but that's not true lol

[wind token]

i dont get these changes making am is better i guess but leave us alone

[coarse nest]

More fury aoe nerfs

How nice

[sullen dove]

dev evokers be like

[meager void]

This is why I feel batch tier tunning is coming

[quaint elbow]

Devs came back from lunch and saw the mess the intern made

[queen linden]

If there's 2 things I can count on everyday, that's the sun rising and blizzard nerfing fury again.

[young swan]

stop

[sullen dove]

hell yea bruther

[forest owl]

devs came back to see what mess THEY made*

[fervent yoke]

Did we get more nerfs??

[warm crag]

we're SO back

[queen linden]

Yes

[young swan]

not really no

[heavy galleon]

They wanna delete warrior

[forest owl]

we're more back than arnold

[restive peak]

That's not true, they nerfed things that benefit RA deeply

[compact flint]

I dont think we are getting nerfed what you mean?

[olive wraith]

That’s an overstatement

[arctic sinew]

read the patch notes man

[restive peak]

Deeply is an overstatement, but still

[arctic sinew]

slayer is nerfed

[nocturne dragon]

So we go AM again?

[sullen dove]

overwhelmed stacks nerfed a little and the extra bs damage hit talent nerfed a little

[heavy galleon]

ofc it's a nerf

[olive wraith]

Look promising

[restive peak]

We also lost 2% from overwhelmed and 5% from opportunist, which was obviously a big part of CB

[queen linden]

Slayer is nerfed and mountain still sucks

Soooo

[quiet geyser]

Where the fuck is the 50%+ execute buff??????

[restive peak]

You go AM to do less dmg ST than we do now, yes

[midnight kite]

Hey bliz mountain thane is still way behind slayer
No problem we nerfed slayer now their closer

[arctic sinew]

why would they ever nerf a ST talent tho(culling)

makes no sense

[modest condor]

unhinged didnt get nerfed tho?

unless im blind

[restive peak]

"RA is outperforming AM by performing like absolute dog shit, so instead of fixing it we made AM the same dogshit as RA."

[fervent yoke]

Dude wtf why did I put all my effort into this toon I don't have time to reroll

[wind token]

this just makes me sad

[young ether]

this

[keen forum]

will improve our baseline ST damage...ya while still nerfing us overall

[queen linden]

Typical blizzard. They give us a nugget of attention to pull our eyes away from them nerfing our AOE again.

[arctic sinew]

was meant to say culling cyclone

[nocturne dragon]

sooo we moving to FDK?

[inner zinc]

How is thane looking with these changes?

[hard widget]

U made me laugh xd

[modest condor]

ah yeah that one was weird to me as well

[calm quartz]

They're cooking, and everyone got food poisoning

[dense brook]

Bro

They didnt need to nerf anything

[midnight kite]

by technicality unhinged got indirectly buffed from the bloodthirst buff

[granite glade]

we just have to remain strong, the giga buff will come one day to balance it all out

[compact flint]

I can careless about AoE i wanna beat Zekvir better hes not an AOE fight

[heavy galleon]

we need a dev

[dense brook]

They couldve shipped these as is without nerfing

[wind token]

bro if they nerfed slayer aoe thats fine maybe buff mountain thane then for aoe!

[queen linden]

A 545 prot warrior beat zekvir. It's 100% a skill issue.

[night cedar]

we need st

xD

[olive wraith]

Isn’t thane fine for aoe

[arctic sinew]

Where is our local mega brain who can sim these changes?

[night relic]

What’s the reason for shit tier piece bonus this season tho, I remember df they always averaged around 10% for most classes

[keen forum]

Whats mountain thane? Isn't that the prot hero tree

[thorny shoal]

oh god they updated it again

[calm quartz]

It's wild to me they're reducing numbers still

[forest owl]

im confused, i thought they'd buff us for sure, i mean we cried on forums i thought that worked for like mages n stuff

[compact flint]

Not the ? one the other one

[sullen dove]

its already in the channel

[sullen dove]

yea he did the other one lol

[arctic sinew]

no way

[queen linden]

They did ??

[sullen dove]

just click on it?

[median falcon]

Glad I wasted money crafting crap and itemizing just to get the shaft cause of adds on a few raid fights

[compact flint]

was it recent like a day ago?

[inner zinc]

Do these changes close the gap between slayer and thane?

[regal falcon]

With the new changes would it be basically no difference to use AM over RA?

[sullen dove]

[frozen field]

Warriors also had a godawful s1 tier set in DF that had to get buffed later

[wind token]

no

[coarse nest]

It’s honestly ridiculous that ptr has more aoe nerfs for fury when on live we’re already getting beat by other melee. I don’t get it whatsoever..

[olive wraith]

So thane is still massively behind in st

[forest owl]

[quiet geyser]

I mean, in their eyes maybe they think they did? But are really just that oblivious

[cedar depot]

not at all lol, thane is way behind on ST but better on sustained cleave, atleast 6% after these

[heavy galleon]

thane is dead hero talent for fury :x

[restive peak]

Yes you can now be equally mediocre as BOTH in 11.0.5 friend!

[arctic sinew]

That "no way" doesn't mean what you think it means

[queen linden]

I'm not digging for the video, point still stands, with the nerfs last week, zekvir falls over once you learn the fight. Go bash your ahead against it for an hour, you'll get it.

[storm rune]

as long as zekvir doesnt crit you twice in a row

[quiet geyser]

When @restive peak starts hard dooming, you know we're fucked lmao

[compact flint]

Depends on the gear i suppose

[median falcon]

Feel like dev balancing warrior was stuffed in a locker by a kid who played warrior when they were in middle school

[nocturne dragon]

I mean our s1 tierset now is also godawful?

[sullen dove]

eh he did the same in s3 df and we were as good as now maybe better

(actually good set helped)

[olive wraith]

It already was lol

[fervent yoke]

Dman this sucks I put all my effort into warrior when xpac dropped to get a great start on the xpac bc I have my first child due in November

I DONT HAVE TIME TO REROLL

[queen linden]

605 can do it reliably

[nocturne dragon]

let's doom together.

[tidal kindle]

WHOA BT nerf = UNHINGED BUFF

[restive peak]

Man someones gotta clip Equinox' stream when this dropped

[sinful spoke]

Make ur child play for u

[olive wraith]

Then don’t

[tidal kindle]

[restive peak]

I lost my mind

[midnight kite]

S1 DF tier at launch is a contender for the weakest tier set to ever launch

[limber mirage]

Back to anger managment? Or will it be whichever talent feels better personally?

[compact flint]

I made it to 60.9% on ?? mode at 614 i level but after that i cant make it any farther i only have the transmitter trinket being my best trinket

[south kayak]

at least we'll get a good tier set in s2

right guys

[frozen tartan]

Where is the fourth nerf hit the tower meme?

[radiant plank]

waiting for this

[quiet geyser]

Cant wait for the next @mossy fox video 🙂

[south kayak]

[queen linden]

Put brann to healing and you'll be fine

[restive peak]

Legit I lost my mind and went on a like 10m rant, they were crying

[forest owl]

we'll get another s3 DF set, for sure, 100%

[fervent yoke]

Crit is moving on to fdk he don't give a shit

[compact flint]

I never have it off just his melee does 1.5 million a hit

[south kayak]

LMAO

[quiet geyser]

True 😦

[coarse nest]

Probably just keep nerfing fury because its to easy in devs minds or something

Why else

[restive peak]

Fury easy

Fire mage buffed again

[storm rune]

Yeah but it'll be the S4 version of S2

[restive peak]

Make it make sense

Boomie top keys thus far? Buffed again bois

[queen linden]

Mage has to be meta

[molten wing]

at least my other favorite spec is getting good changes

[fervent yoke]

Mage hardest class in game

[restive peak]

FDK doing everything warriors do, but better? BUFFED

Jk they didn't get buffed but certainly no nerfs

[pine echo]

What does "AM" fury gains mean?

[coarse nest]

For real bro it’s the most dogshit thing

[south kayak]

They did nerf fire mage in the most recent post, right?

[storm rune]

I called this back in beta

[quiet geyser]

This idea of being "easy" is outdated. 95% of specs are easy. Hell frost mage and ret are 2 buttons

[restive peak]

It just doesn't make sense

[sand nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-bad-stonks-stonks-cat-bad-stocks-cat-bad-stonks-cat-gif-11522299758188203870

[coarse nest]

Idk why they can’t let us have our niche of burst aoe

[sullen dove]

anger management instead of reckless abandon

[frozen field]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

[restive peak]

3% nerf but buffed everything else, and the frostfire buffs work out to more than a 3% buff

[tiny hare]

we rocking AM boys

we back

[restive peak]

So fire got indirectly buffed again

[night relic]

Boomies overshadowing the dogshit ferals, blizzard still ignoring them

[south kayak]

well, frostfire is way worse than Skyfury though

[calm quartz]

Legit flabbergasted they're reducing numbers at all

Dumbfounded even

[sand nacelle]

and now the burst AoE is too weak to compensate for AFKing for 1:10min

[restive peak]

No, not after this

[calm quartz]

Perplexed

[keen forum]

I mean it's warrior. They've hated us since BFA

[south kayak]

damn? i can play Living Bomb Frostfire fire? pog

[thorny shoal]

fury dev is a mage main who gets bullied by warriors

[south kayak]

reroll time next patch

[frozen field]

Take me back to legion

[south kayak]

[queen linden]

Next patch? You mean now. Abandon 🚢 !

[forest owl]

i told my guild to look for another warrior as im their only one, if those aoe caps go through, then this happens, looks like im tapping out soon

[upbeat plume]

I also love how none of these changes address thane being dead for fury in almost all content

Out tier 3 talents almost all being dog shit like UF

And none of any of the real problems with the spec just more nerfs and balancing a talent in RA vs AM

[rotund ginkgo]

do we literally just send cds on cd and go full ST in rashanan now?

[coarse nest]

Yeah if you hate your team

[fervent yoke]

Which melee gets nerfed the least/ safest pick?

[upbeat plume]

Ohnand our tier set being the worst of any class and spec in the entire game

[queen linden]

If you only care about parsing, yeah

[grim wigeon]

might aswell play arms then xd

[queen linden]

Bc WCL is run by children

[molten wing]

if you wanna progress the fight you do your job by killing adds , if you wanna parse on it go full ST

[queen linden]

[vestal root]

fury bois we fucced or we still ballin?

[quiet geyser]

This is what kills me. They nerfed slayer specifically, even tho for fury its still dog water ST, but didnt buff thane at all lmao

[upbeat plume]

Yeah I'm starting to think about arms more they just keep hammering fury with 0 compensation that matters

[night relic]

U click the spec button u click arms and unequip a wep

[runic violet]

Void emissary buff now reverted.

[radiant plank]

Arms does same st now after slayer nerfs :caught

[rotund ginkgo]

we already killed

[grim wigeon]

😦

[runic violet]

That was quick lol

[south kayak]

They don't know what they're doing man, no point staying here being mad about it, reroll or something else. I'm over getting mad about this, i'll just go play something else

it's that simple

[rotund ginkgo]

its mostly parsing yh

:3

[frozen field]

The buff is still buffed. They just reverted the hp.

[opaque falcon]

Fury almost dead dead

[runic violet]

Yea the buff still sucks

[rotund ginkgo]

logs say rashanan is ST, so now we go ST

https://tenor.com/view/druski-aventurine-hands-up-honkai-star-rail-hsr-gif-1869893939377419546

[queen linden]

100% ded

[forest owl]

fury aint dead until its deaddeaded

[upbeat plume]

It's less rage and more just giving up I'm put war for prog so switching not much of an option guess its back to arms maybe they'll make colossus less shit eventually

[runic violet]

I don't even bother touching adds in rashanan (heroic) unless i have bs

[radiant plank]

obviously, what happens ingame is fake

[keen forum]

i think its time to just learn one of blizzards favored children instead of being the rosa parks of WCL statistics

[rotund ginkgo]

its mythic

:3

[south kayak]

Well, I'm giving up too

[opaque falcon]

Blizz hates us man shit don’t make sense

[south kayak]

That's why I'm not gonna play warrior until something changes

[queen linden]

Won't have a raid spot if this shit keeps up

[night relic]

They don’t care

[opaque falcon]

U got dk and paladins do crazy aoe and ST

[upbeat plume]

Yep the true bitter pill lol

[frozen field]

You're safe if you're still the only shout and cry in the raid

[rotund ginkgo]

you'll always have raid spot as warr if ur solo

[queen linden]

We have 2 fury warriors atm 😭

[south kayak]

Waiting for Lincc's next thread on the forums

[opaque falcon]

My raid team has a prot warrior 😭😭

[queen linden]

I'm cooked

[boreal swallow]

quit doomin so hard lol

[sinful spoke]

We have 3

[rotund ginkgo]

FURY IS DEAD

[opaque falcon]

I’m cooked man

[south kayak]

@restive peak when next forum thread

[meager void]

Ive yet to read a good reasoning behind the wcl rashanan change

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[forest owl]

ye it'll be a banger im guessing xD

[rotund ginkgo]

FURY

IS

DEAD

[spare steppe]

Destro warlocks don’t need a degenerate spec

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[sullen dove]

cuz wcl devs play classes that cant pad on them easily

[coarse nest]

Real

[rotund ginkgo]

ovinax getting the tindral treatment

ovinax is now a ST fight

https://tenor.com/view/use-your-brain-joe-bartolozzi-funny-memes-meme-stupid-gif-16825119743901351939

[sullen dove]

and their massive egos require them to always have the easiest time getting a high parse

[rotund ginkgo]

bis gif

[opaque falcon]

Gonna have to relearn arms fml

[south kayak]

play fdk

[cedar depot]

blizzard when people quickly kill low hp add spawns

[south kayak]

fun spec

[meager void]

"Ive yet read good reasoning about...": ppl start replying with further bad reasoning.

[fickle cedar]

quick question at what time do you use transmitter on pre pull ?

[molten wing]

fels like Blizz struggles with making a meaningful buff for fury and its ST becaus WW cleave exists

[south kayak]

Why not have great st and cleave

[median falcon]

Frost dk and ret feel way better , you can battle Rez on them too 😁

[south kayak]

what's the problem with that

[molten wing]

they should find a tune knob where they can buff abilities so they do increase dmg whne striking a single target etc

[frozen field]

What'd they change to Rashanan on wcl?

[queen linden]

Yeah but you have to play in a wheelchair

[copper patio]

our aoe dmg without cds is pathetic - its not stopping them buffing fury st

[forest owl]

i do about 3s before pull seems to work fine, especially if you get the stand in platform one or jump

[inner shadow]

ANOTHER bis stat

[spare steppe]

I mean what destro did was fucked yo

[inner shadow]

from delve bounty

[fickle cedar]

oki ty

[spare steppe]

It’s a good reason for a single spec

[nimble kraken]

I’ve been ripping it at like 10 on the pull and just hovering to satisfy the condition at like 2

[spare steppe]

Dumb for every other spec

[high quest]

The moment i lvl my dk they nerf it to shit

[rotund ginkgo]

I HATE NORLYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[nimble kraken]

You can press the button and still wait 14 seconds to finish the quest

[quiet geyser]

Can they just hire archy as the warrior dev and call it a day 🙃

[chrome wraith]

are we eating good boys

[rotund ginkgo]

I HATE NORLYS

SO MUCH

[chrome wraith]

or did they shoot us in the face again

[olive wraith]

I mean am is clearly the play right? Better aoe and close st

[queen linden]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[spare steppe]

The latter

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[chrome wraith]

how so

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-malevolent-shrine-copium-gif-17048246567311451549

[median falcon]

That’s the idea , only time I had dk as main they nerfed it so we all just gotta switch to class we want nerfed most

[modest condor]

seems to be a pretty neutral change overall

[chilly fractal]

nah, I'd cope

[errant vessel]

How much more dmg is CB over RB rn?

[spare steppe]

It’s a buff for my AM ovi build

[inner shadow]

bounty delve

[opaque cypress]

so, they removed nerfs to target cap?

[coarse nest]

Die AM die!

[olive wraith]

With no map?

[opaque cypress]

map is called bounty

[quiet geyser]

They made AM about the same strength as RA, slightly nerfed slayer as whole. But bringing a super wet noodle up to wet noodle status.. is still just a wet noodle.

[inner shadow]

but bis stats

for fury

[lusty jungle]

Stop he's already deaaad

[runic violet]

I love AM build... it's just not that good right now.

[median falcon]

I run delve and just get shoulders for 80 th time

[inner shadow]

delve before

[chilly fractal]

bounty is also short for bountiful to some people

[molten wing]

which still feels like a kick in the nuts , on top of all the other stuff/nerfs especially the target cap one

[olive wraith]

Thought that was an abbreviation for bountiful

[inner shadow]

no no the actual treasure map

[calm quartz]

surely theyre cooking up something for next reset now that its been 2 weeks since RWF

[inner shadow]

12 hours of gametime into the expansion

[calm quartz]

[inner shadow]

used up all my luck

:kekw

[chilly fractal]

I've only gotten 1 map... and it was from a Zekvir spawn in an 11

[coarse nest]

I did 12 delves without getting a map so I decided to never engage with the content again

[sleek badge]

Night elf or Dwarf ?
Thez dispell looks so broken

[jaunty verge]

godlike trinket combo

[frozen field]

Yall get maps?

[modest condor]

i got my first map after 49 delves

since then i've gotten 2 more

[inner shadow]

i did 4 tier 8 delves

[eager thorn]

I’ve had 3 in like 55 i think

[frozen field]

I got one map week 1 and haven't seen any since

[inner shadow]

2 of which with no key

cxuz im dumb no info how it works

[eager thorn]

Good thing week 1 was the only time the gear rlly mattered

[frozen field]

Just recently completed Glory of the Delver too

[vague copper]

Think I have got 10 maps or so on 4 char

[modest condor]

i need them for the achievement tho!!

[eager thorn]

Ok true

[inner shadow]

:kekw

[pure echo]

There’s no way anyone at blizzard understands warrior. These changes (except buffing AM damage) are the absolute dumbest fucking things I’ve ever seen. Where are they getting their data? Heroic? Normal? They’re reasoning behind the AM change is wrong too, people play AM on mythic brood.

[median falcon]

Got a map, gave me a crit vers helm 610 that just sits In my bags

[eager thorn]

I havent got the discovery achi yet cos of the azj kahet delve that has grapples like 1 of 4 days

[vague copper]

100+ delvs Done

[eager thorn]

And all flight path achi still bugged

[south kayak]

It’s not, I have it

[chilly fractal]

maps also provide gilded crests

[sullen dove]

a whole 2

[lilac basin]

What is AM

[sullen dove]

wowzers

[eager thorn]

I have all flight paths and no achi

[frozen field]

Anger Management, a talent

[hasty tide]

every time i see warrior tuning, i get more and more confused about what their goal is for us lol

[lilac basin]

ty

[chilly fractal]

hey man... compared to the dude in my guild that got like 8 I'd have taken that to get my weapon crafted faster

[frozen field]

To put all of our damage in stacking CDs and then punish us when we burst too hard for doing it

[inner shadow]

any addon that shows you bountiful delves?

before i lose my eyes

[covert blaze]

hello mr swolefish

[eager thorn]

Doesnt the base map show it

The delve door is open and glowing

[quaint elbow]

Exactly. One mage spec on top is not enough, gotta have at least 2 amiright

[onyx musk]

Is the soft cap for OF and roar still going to get implemented?

[frozen field]

Think that's just called the in-game map

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956065034700726334/1272362174739906672/ezgif-6-9bd2089f65.gif

[modest condor]

yeah unless there's some addon i've had since before tww that does it for me, bountiful delves already show on the map

[chilly fractal]

then 2 specs of Shaman and DK in the next 4 spots

[weary sail]

Its called pressing M

[inner shadow]

i am trying to see but i cannot

[covert blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077655483344764978/1226274302102605935/togif-1-1.gif

[inner shadow]

i am losing my eye sight

trying toi read the map and see that thingy

[frozen field]

One of the delve icons should just be lit up

[warm crag]

fucked up image

[frozen field]

In each zone

[quaint elbow]

I even raided as Arms last night to prepare for next round of Fury nerfs. Silly me, should've raided as DK

[sullen dove]

meowls

[weary sail]

It literally light up

[eager thorn]

I should probably take rash cape right? Already have hero transmitter

[weary sail]

If you cant see that maybe you should see a doctor

[inner shadow]

i already wear glasses

i got mioepeia and astigmatism from one eye

and miopeia from another

and -1 combined

[covert blaze]

yeah probably, it's very rare too

[sudden tusk]

6/8 bosses in the raid REQUIRE add damage or your raid wipes. This is ENTIRELY a blizzard boss design issue that is now destroying the class.

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/Kg4c8/8986ef8994.png

[eager thorn]

5

[warm crag]

fury is so back

[eager thorn]

Rashanan is st

[modest condor]

the one on the left is bountiful, the one on the right isnt

[weary sail]

We still dooming about fury?

[narrow narwhal]

6

[weary sail]

Its been like a week

[sudden tusk]

nerf #5 hot off the press

[eager thorn]

More changes

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[covert blaze]

[brittle crow]

wait

[weary sail]

Fury will be mediocre with some small niche and you will like it

[sudden tusk]

swordish can you come burn my house down i need it about now

[astral rose]

can someone explain why they nerfed fury into garbage tier? why am i like half a million behind ppl on a fucking pack with all my fucking major cooldowns up

[brittle crow]

if slayer fury lost dps

how is it a minor buff

[red berry]

what the fuck is blizzard on

[brittle crow]

?

[sullen dove]

yep

[sudden tusk]

becauyse 6/8 of the bosses require add damage and most require add damage within a specific burst window that it requires our class to do it.

[queen linden]

[fervent yoke]

Does DK get nerfed frequently? How is blizz towards DK dps

[sudden tusk]

so now the only thing our class will be good at is killing adds in a 10 second window then we are worthless dogshit til more adds show up

[weary sail]

You should reroll DK and find out

[sudden tusk]

both frost and unholy are crazy strong

[night relic]

I mean fury is still pumping, if ur lacking behind at the moment it’s skill issue Im afraid

[molten wing]

5 adds

more than 5 is too much and too op

[weary sail]

Fury is aggressively mediocre with some burst AoE niche and yall just have to accept it

[sudden tusk]

They just need to literally Half the amount of shitter adds that spawn

[weary sail]

You can cope that blizz will nerf aoe burst but buff sustain aoe and ST in return, but its not gonna happen lets be real

[inner shadow]

how to fix the size of this?

[forest owl]

by removing the 3 warriors.

[covert blaze]

i just hope they buff st

[inner shadow]

[storm rune]

needs to be the PFP for this disc

[inner shadow]

they are all together

[weary sail]

[brittle crow]

it was the pfp of goldlewis dickinson discord for a while

[vestal root]

whjat are these changes im reading

whos balancing

[broken schooner]

Go into edit mode and select the party frames:

[vestal root]

???

[weary sail]

Fury soon

[covert blaze]

chat gpt

[inner shadow]

sorry but

where is edit mode

[vestal root]

i can believe that

[inner shadow]

ok found it

[somber elk]

guys are the uncapped aoe changes reverted?

[cursive ridge]

Hahahaha

[storm rune]

Oh they nerfed us 6%? We deserved it. Oh they nerfed us another 3%, excessive, but we're fine. Oh they nerfed us again? It's just retuning, we're fine. Oh they chopped off one of our arms and are making us wield it as a weapon? It's just a part of the class fantasy. (Also fuck Arms)

[molten wing]

no way am i accepting warriors in my alt keys

[stable frost]

I find the "lets encourage am" angle amusing. Yes, nerf your builders so your cooldowns come back faster and become an even more important part of your overall dps. Yes, those cooldowns we also just nerfed, those ones

[somber elk]

theyy are not mentioned anymore

[vestal root]

its so discouraging man

maaaaan

[safe juniper]

Im so confused how are we getting nerfed again

[vestal root]

also why is arms getting lowkey hit too

[safe juniper]

how is fury OP in that

[fading sleet]

Am I stupid or is this not actually improving furys ST? lol

[safe juniper]

its literally below average

[molten wing]

it does not , its lowers it

[vestal root]

[frozen field]

Caught in the crossfire

[elfin hollow]

its overall yet antoher nerf, including ST where we already suck

[molten wing]

not by much as stated in #updates-midnight its overall a 0.2% nerf

[fading sleet]

I swear to fuck for the last 4 expansions now Blizz has no fucking clue what to do with Fury

[ornate gust]

Are they trolling or what?

[safe juniper]

Do we have a representative to bring this up to bliz lol like this is too much

and nothing is happenin to frost Dks Enhancement shamans

Monks

[fast mural]

so they buffed furys aoe after capping aoe ?

[weary sail]

See yall next expansion

[fast mural]

makes sense

i dont get the arms nerfs tho

[untold trench]

yeah lets nerf fury even more Blizz

[vestal root]

see you guys in another melee dps discord

[past pivot]

Bye

[vestal root]

lul

[untold trench]

why ever let us get to top dps when in reality we never were

only aoe

[tulip swallow]

Culling cyclone is already kind of ass why nerf it

[fast mural]

fury got buffed wdym

[untold trench]

ughhhhhh

[tulip swallow]

lmao

[fast mural]

arms dev on some shit

[untold trench]

they buffed and nerfed us at the same time

[young swan]

i mean its a 20% damage increase to BS in ST

its still an odd nerf tho

i think the slayer tuning was more geared at arms than at fury

[fading sleet]

I don't understand why warriors aren't allowed to be near the top 😅 especially when are set is more often than not dog

[untold trench]

imho

Fury should be #1 by over 30% over the next class

[forest owl]

are we still waiting for sims for more numbers or are the numbers in updates the final?

[untold trench]

fuck everyone else lol

[young swan]

sims are being run

[queen linden]

Don't we want to drop our 4 set at some point?

[narrow quail]

The ST buffs are coming in the next PTR update

[forest owl]

nice thanks

[young swan]

im not gonna spoil information that isnt mine to spoil but its definitely not all doom and gloom

[fading sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-sign-quote-gif-10836119

[warm crag]

how many raid spots will i have on ansurek after this ????

[fading sleet]

"Single target"

[young swan]

even if the changes are really stupid

[warped bone]

Anybody know what this is from frost DK?

[queen linden]

"buff"

[molten wing]

i'm doing my part

[warped bone]

Can onl find this https://www.wowhead.com/spell=393843/freezing-venom

[narrow narwhal]

Whatever damage your RB is contributing add 25%, BT 30%

[somber elk]

how do you know? maaybe we play am now and its a giga buff

[fading sleet]

I just feel like this has been something consistent since BFA for war, maybe my brains broken

[weary sail]

How many times are we presisng raw bloodthirst

[queen linden]

So instead of hitting like a wet noodle, we'll hit like a slightly less wet noodle.

[fast mural]

we already play AM on ovinax so now fury is gonna slap even more there

[fading sleet]

of course my brains broken, I continue to main fury, what am I saying

[queen linden]

But still a noodle.

[young swan]

nah ur right, just same shit diff day

[tulip swallow]

nah you right, they hate us

[warm crag]

you most certainly can play RA if you have enough fdks and warriors

[frozen field]

I miss legion fury

[molten wing]

Geti too strong time to nerf Warrior , good old BFA days

[fast mural]

i can also play arms if thats the case lmao

[warm crag]

mmm no

odyns fury bladestorm is still stupid on that fight ye

you just do more bossdamage

[young ether]

and then lower target cap on roar and of and sadness

[tulip swallow]

Our boss damage isn't the boss damage of a human being, the AOE should be ridiculous

[warm crag]

this patch will hit when you have an 18% damage buff from the weekly catchup

[forest owl]

no frost dks or another warrior in my guild so i have that at least

[warm crag]

ye u stick to AM

[tulip swallow]

Not just on par with dk/dh/ret/lock that match it and also blast the boss

[young ether]

as will everyone else? xD

[fading sleet]

I honestly loved WoD fury so much

[young ether]

wow in season 3 we will do so much more dmg than we do right now

[queen linden]

Bring back vanilla fury

[tulip swallow]

Once wod got the class trinket warrior was juiced, before then I was kind of down on it

[warm crag]

ye so you will probably still get the most amt of damage off on the adds before everyone else gets to press their buttons

[fading sleet]

Fury warriors continuing to pay for the sins of classic fury

[young swan]

pretty sure we're just paying for the sins of 5.4 and legion (NH + abt)

[warm crag]

i want sanctum arms back

[frozen field]

Wod class trinket?

[fast mural]

that execute video doomed us all

[young swan]

and somehow also paying for the sins of what arms did to tomb

[warm crag]

execute spec that tops damage on a fight that literally has no execute

[cedar depot]

5 nerfs in a row

[young swan]

its crazy cause there are least 2 iterations of arms that were more broken than this

[molten wing]

Arms Tomb was probably my favorite iteration of arms

[warm crag]

they were before my time or in some s4 season so idc

[tulip swallow]

WHen OF is softcapped at 5 I genuinely don't know how they intend to tune it above onslaught

[frozen field]

Arms in tomb was great. Fury in Nighthold was awesome.

[young swan]

well s4 bfa was a real tier

so it doesnt count as "fake s4 season"

[molten wing]

Arms tomb was execute ring + ravager auto casting mortal strikes if im not mistaken

right ?

[warm crag]

what was s4 was it nyalotha

[young swan]

yeah

[warm crag]

was that still when there were 4 raids

[young swan]

yeah

[warm crag]

ya ok i was a noober back then

[hollow bloom]

why more nerfs

[tulip swallow]

Arms historically became broken when you give it infinite rage, now it just kind of has effectively infinite rage baseline

[frozen field]

Bfa season 4 also had the coolest m+ affix ever

[wicked moat]

5

[tulip swallow]

Obelisk affix was pretty cool, I didn't like a lot of the snapping and other jank shit that came with the dungeon pool

[forest owl]

i want hellfire citadel again i loved that raid, raiding in general that expansion was fun

[wicked moat]

im gonna puke

hellfire assault into iron reaver

[warm crag]

the thing after TEP doesnt count

or before

[molten wing]

of all the things WoD did wrong

[rose bay]

just have 24 mages kill it

[molten wing]

raiding was not one of them

[frozen field]

I liked how fury played in hellfire citadel but I think that raid was a step-down from Blackrock Foundry

[quiet geyser]

Fury also had eternal palace

[tender sky]

Wait if AM fury ST is within 1% if RA that means AM fury aoe has a net buff, or am I thinking about this wrong?

[wicked moat]

we won't get even those things now

[molten wing]

raiding in WoD was so so good

[young swan]

not anywhere close to the tiers i listed

[quiet geyser]

True

[molten wing]

its kind of not decided yet since sims are being done atm , but AM also means desyncing Avatar out of your cds

[tulip swallow]

legion was such a good expansion man

[frozen field]

Still my favorite expac

[tulip swallow]

warrior got to be powerful and it was ok because everyone else was powerful too

[molten wing]

WHICH CAN BE AVOIDED BLIZZARD IF YOU ARE READING , IF YOU MAKE IT SO AVATAR CD IS ALSO REDUCED BY AM

thanks.

[tender sky]

Yeah it also borks on use trinket usage

Maybe a net buff to mad queens mandate over a 1:30 cd one

[tulip swallow]

Double 1.5 minute on uses, cycling for each cooldown set

[daring spire]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/cheekclappin halp pls

[tulip swallow]

[tender sky]

Plz no 😂

[molten wing]

playing both Mark and Shard

[weary sail]

Wait for sim 🙏

[warm crag]

genuinely not that bad of an idea

[young swan]

this is what i do currently and it fucking CRANKS

are people only now thinking about this

[modest condor]

no they did that in rwf

[tulip swallow]

It's pretty good when the passive trinkets are so limited

[tender sky]

What is a cd cycle roughly with AM? Like 50ish seconds?

[molten wing]

that would only work if you actual had two good trinkets

[nimble kraken]

So we’re the aoe burst class we win at m+ right..?

[weary sail]

Literally what liquid did

[tidal kindle]

It's doom and gloom just looking at proposed changes because they are

[tender sky]

If the shard would effing drop id run double on use

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/xV9Y.gif

[young swan]

im better and smarter

[tulip swallow]

Revert the target cap changes

[queen linden]

[tender sky]

We are low key kings! 👑

[red berry]

AM being stronger does excite me for keys

[lean heart]

make whirlwind cleave 8 targets 🍳

[forest owl]

wow how did you find the warrior dev so easily

[nimble kraken]

Thank god

[tulip swallow]

bro can you imagine if it was on par with every other cleave ability in the game

[queen linden]

Make whirlwind a buff and not an ability

[tulip swallow]

[crude ridge]

Even if the ST buff to AM makes for more consistent aoe use still doesn't seem like a buff if we tie in the soft cap we're also getting with it.

[sudden sun]

What the fuck is going on with these nerfs.

[fast mural]

just warrior stuff

[nimble kraken]

I was really worried we were useful for a second. Atleast we have good party utility

[tulip swallow]

They want to change the relative tuning of the hero specs but refuse to buff thane + colo in meaningful ways

[tidal kindle]

I got my skard ytd finally

[fast mural]

gotta nerf us so they can give us a strong tier set

[tender sky]

AM aoe sustained buffs babyyyyy

[red berry]

envy

[warped bone]

Just pray for some actual changes

[red berry]

ive ran so many stone vaults

[warm crag]

silence rahtae

you will spec arms for 3 fights in raid and be broken !!!

[crude ridge]

not going to be very good sustain if we're soft capped to 5 targets

[tender sky]

The target cap doesn’t really matter

Low key

[queen linden]

Whatever buffs they give us will certainly be accompanied by more nerfs.

[crude ridge]

how so?

[red berry]

ehhhh i wouldn’t say that. it does matter

[nimble kraken]

Stuff dies more to your big button presses than your 5 target single hits

[tender sky]

It just doesn’t result in a huge loss relative to other things given pull profiles

[tulip swallow]

It's 20% damage on OF in most situations, and if they actually fixed TR to work like every other capped dot in the game it would destroy that too

[nimble kraken]

Therefore your cap matters less

[crude ridge]

There are plenty of times when we're in a 6+ pack pull

[olive wraith]

We are less target capped with AM

[tulip swallow]

You only need 8 targets for it to start looking real bad

[queen linden]

Don't most classes have a 5 target cap on their abilities?

[warped bone]

Never

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/b0vX2.gif

[tender sky]

It just easier to cry wolf on a target cap reduction

[tulip swallow]

Generally it's either 5, 8, or completely uncapped for special boys only

[queen linden]

[frozen field]

You wish lol

[tulip swallow]

Not that you would know if they did have a softcap because only about 50% of the softcaps are actually listed in the damn tooltips

[unreal onyx]

banger

[fast mural]

guys dont you think they should cap BS to 1 target and make it the ST option and make rav be the aoe option

[crude ridge]

Can't wait for those 6 to 8 pack pulls and only 5 targets are getting giga dmg while the rest remain healthy

[fast mural]

priority dmg isnt bad

[queen linden]

Average fury warrior DPS next patch

[devout totem]

[frozen field]

Made me laugh