BRD raid gonna be true test
#fury
pearl crypt
native saffron
Adds a big threat there?
eternal sundial
And you are playing addgodx
oblique trail
Stray adds on Mythic can easily kill anyone they melee
molten wing
man finding a decent ret in your pug runs and trying to get close to his overall is just impossible eh 
thats a +9 mist
cerulean gyro
^happened to me yesterday as well aha
they do really good overall damage, but ST is lacking it looks like
molten wing
his ST was also up there but he was 3-4 ilvls above me
finite spruce
quick question guys with crafted armors would i do double duskthread lining or 1 duskthread lining and 1 writhing armor band
oblique trail
Writhing only does anything if you have Ascendance/Any other darkmoon embellishment
tired brook
ascendance and writhing or just double dusk
finite spruce
oh i thought it was any embellishment must have misunderstood the tooltips thanks
makes sense then
iron portal
man finding a decent ret in your pug runs and trying to get close to his overall...
we getting to point where half the specs diffs us đ
molten wing
its okay we are gonna get nerfed end of the month to compensate 
iron portal
fs fs
verbal rivet
We padded too close to the sun
floral olive
Compensate our poorly performance, never got so much love from blizz:)
stuck axle
arms seems to be above fury now, what do you think of it ?
tired brook
fury still best on most fights simply because our timings are great and adds are prio on mythic prog
stone briar
Iâm currently using a sac and mark of Khardros and have got a transmitter in the vault. I cba to use two on use trinkets. Is transmitter better in M+ than mark?
oblique trail
It is yes
tired brook
full st bosses you can go arms if youâre comfortable on it
torn sentinel
Depends on content, but yes Arms is more usefull in raid imo, except 2 bosses
oblique trail
Transmitter is just better than both Mark and Skarmorak
formal ravine
Even heroic transmitter is much better
stone briar
Ok so keep Sac and pair it with Transmitter?
tired brook
first time using transmitter in raid today, on mythic ulgrax when weâre cleaving adds i absolutely cant see where the floor circle / orb are so i end up mindlessly running around hoping for the best
formal ravine
first time using transmitter in raid today, on mythic ulgrax when weâre cleaving...
stand a bit on the side , either way adds will group, then use transmitter pick it up and press cds
It's literally jailer weapon but a bit easier
tired brook
yeah i definitely have some room for improvement with it zzz
stuck axle
Wlogs tends to say even counting on multi , arms above
teal pine
because of the rashanan change
sleek trellis
ooof
worthy arrow
Wlogs tends to say even counting on multi , arms above
Its so sad omg, why cant we stay number 1. one time .. đŚ
sleek trellis
Blizz just mean
teal pine
in reality fury is still at the top of that graph
sleek trellis
at the top of the graph in our hearts
stuck axle
Im only doing HM but yeah I don't finish as low as this graph
rose blade
Hello my vault is seal of the poisoned patch hero 6/6 or myth 1/6 weapon crit mastery what should i choose
formal ravine
The sims probably
tribal siren
myth weapon
formal ravine
But i think pact might be better depending on if you have crafted weapon
rose blade
I have craft weapon
formal ravine
636?
rose blade
Yes
formal ravine
Do a sim then with 639 upgraded teh other weapon vs the pact
verbal rivet
What happened to the days of picking vault items on vibes and living with the consequences?
formal ravine
but with 636 weapon pact will probably sim better
rose blade
Ty
tired brook
lucky mf getting pactâŚ
chrome plover
What happened to the days of picking vault items on vibes and living with the co...
i dont think those days ever existed for a lot of people
vault isnt that old
(one with options at least)
warm crag
Fury just died
verbal rivet
??
warm crag
Yeah it's no longer selectable as a spec
verbal rivet
Based
tired brook
Sir, the fifth fury nerf just hit.
sly bay
Perfect, we dont need weaklingđ
tired brook
Yeah it's no longer selectable as a spec
in arms spec we trust
eternal sundial
Fury just died
Were were u when fury die?
I was at home phone ring
Fury is kil
No...
forest owl
Yeah it's no longer selectable as a spec
can confirm fury dead, beaten by red, brown bad 
broken sinew
Hi warriors May I know is Enchanted: Authority of the Depths" good? Saw quite a bit of top 30 wars are using this
frigid cipher
who needs brown dps if you have red and pink dps
eternal sundial
Hi warriors May I know is Enchanted: Authority of the Depths" good? Saw quite a ...
Best enchant for st
tired brook
depths is bis in raid, radiant good for overall, depends on what you prefer (st/overall)
low phoenix
639 Mark of Khardros or 626 Treacherous Transmitter?
tired brook
but most just opt for depths because st is important in raid, and prio is important in m+
broken sinew
oh ok thanks I play most of the time in M+
verbal rivet
I donât want to spend $120k gold to swap enchants for a key.
And 4 weapons sounds like ass. So I slapped depths on and havenât looked back
ashen socket
We big gaming boiz
tired brook
huge gaming
chrome plover
boss damage and prio damage is important so depths is good đ
broken sinew
And 4 weapons sounds like ass. So I slapped depths on and havenât looked back
it mark sense
so Authority of the Depths good to go?
verbal rivet
I can only deathroll so much gold from my guild.
broken sinew
is so exp at my server
tired brook
so Authority of the Depths good to go?
ye send it
Was 24-25k earlier today on na
just bought mine for my mythic wep drop tn
chrome plover
every server is the same now i believe
tired brook
could wait for it to drop if you want
chrome plover
so it's just regional pricing
broken sinew
Was 24-25k earlier today on na
not my BIS so I dun think I will spend it R3
tired brook
Youâll be replacing that eventually
ashen socket
I would just rip the r2
tired brook
I wouldnât r3 enchant anything sub myth track unless you have money
ashen socket
unless you are rich
tired brook
r2 is more than fine
tired brook
rotund ginkgo
bit off topic but HAS ANYONE got a clue what might be the ACTUAL issue? https://imgur.com/a/ULlX7NU
i got a new mouse, steelseries aerox 9, and it seems to just every now and again decide to spin.
the issue is immediately resolved by alt-tabbing
i tried removing enhance pointer precision, i tried changing polling rate, i tried these fixes https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/000014597\
chrome plover
pog bladestorm roleplay
tired brook
LOL
rotund ginkgo
real
tired brook
I have no fucking idea whatâs happening but that gif made me laugh, thanks and good luck
lavish breach
my camera will sometimes do that
but it just fixes itself
also is the only reason we play slayer because it has better st.aoe balance but if we wnted more AOE we go thane?
lavish breach
I simmed mine and it was like 130k loss on ST but plus 250k on aoe burst atleast
and with my friend on arcane im wondering if its btter to let them slam ST
eternal sundial
Theres no such thing as overkill st
lavish breach
yeah I dont doubt that
just thought on forti weeks might be bettter to be better at aoe
tired brook
big gz
forest owl
massive neck đŽ
tired brook
just thought on forti weeks might be bettter to be better at aoe
u get both forti and tyrannical in higher keys now
there is no one or the other
maybe it could be good for key parsing 9s lmfao
forest owl
trying to decide what enchant to put on 639 weapon, i do mythic raiding and m+ not pushing m+ though, should i go depths/radiant or 2x depths
eternal sundial
Depths
tired brook
just send depths is what i always recommend
vestal root
i go 2x depths since ST is lackin for prio targets
lavish breach
maybe it could be good for key parsing 9s lmfao
dont even log was just a thought
oblique trail
if you're raiding go 2x Depths
And for what it's worth, simwise they're both within 1-2% of each other in various scenarios
forest owl
2x depths it is thx
errant vessel
anyone know how Ovinax egg works in sims?
like does it try to balance the stats or?
sleek trellis
oh damn big streamers in the chat
rotund ginkgo
I have no fucking idea whatâs happening but that gif made me laugh, thanks and g...
the camera just spins
ok i just called the pug healer the r word in party instead of in whisper
i left the key
radiant plank
Ragish said the slur
tired brook
he did the thing
forest berry
Hi guys can i trust bloodmallet for trinkets ?
feral pine
yes
forest berry
ty
vestal root
DH being so unpopular yet so insanely strong says a lot about Inertia/Momentum gameplay
true wolf
not sure what to pick đ
vestal root
sim
true wolf
fully upgraded but I dunno if the increased sim damage is worth over the trinket gimmick
last falcon
did you also take into account the possible upgrade you can do ?
pale lava
not sure what to pick đ
shard, not even a question
last falcon
i've heard transmitter is very weird to use when using it in raid and m+
hard widget
Playing next expansion
pale lava
the choice is yours
oblique trail
Transmitter is just better than any of the on-use from M+
last falcon
ara kara trinket not that good ?
oblique trail
Sacbrood is good yes
floral olive
fully upgraded but I dunno if the increased sim damage is worth over the trinket...
Just think about that, can you sustainable take that buff if so take:)
Coz I tried in the raid and dng, and some times I just canât do it (coz of I can just die, or smth else)
pale lava
Transmitter is just better than any of the on-use from M+
no one said it's not
it's just annoying to use
oblique trail
People like to exaggerate how bad Transmitter is (I did a bit as well) before getting it
unreal onyx
shard it is
oblique trail
I didn't said I liked it either?
rotund ginkgo
looks better than s2 df
rotund ginkgo
it was 92% holy pala
feral pine
hey, so I made some sims to see what to craft at 636 between my wrist with embelishment or ring Ring sim higher, do you guys think is bait?
ring:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cBCMybcUT9QFgeV6Dax4xv
wrist:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rPjgcGV3y29x2zb7F6ZZsH
oblique trail
Just using the same move back on you
tired brook
it was 92% holy pala
i wonder what s4 df looks like
oblique trail
But really, Transmitter just outperforms any other on-use trinket and it's not even close for AoE
oblique trail
And it's not bad to use at all when you get used to it
tired brook
50% fire mage 50% spriest 0% everything else
rotund ginkgo
u can check i mean
weary sail
Yes
tired brook
triple casta god comp! i love it!
tired brook
ye priest isnt turbo op anymore
pale lava
gg
tired brook
its still good and has sick prio but its not anywhere as dominant as it was last szn
pale lava
warlocks are still paying for their s3 SL sins
weary sail
Fury js actually a lot less popular than i thought 
bitter palm
what is this
tired brook
assuming total keys completed / played
eternal canopy
top 5000 iirc
weary sail
2000 io rating class distribution for M+
tired brook
Big
bitter palm
pwar is unreal defensively
i love rnging parry as vdh to live a pack
pwar just presses shield block
pale lava
you mean prot war is actually a well designed tank
weary sail
Maybe next expansion we will be meta in M+ again
pale lava
I find that peak tank design
bitter palm
if you die u made a mistake defensively
vestal root
pwar is so consistent its crazy
i didnt believe it until i tanked one key it was stupid
how do you die
bitter palm
not rotating properly
weary sail
Probs didnt have shield block up
vestal root
also real good damage
pale lava
meanwhile bdk
tired brook
yeah prot wars fuck
weary sail
If u dont have shield block u will die
pale lava
I messed up a single gcd, guess I die
vestal root
bdk in that final hallway in grimbatol LMAO
vestal root
lot of small enemies hitting physical is BDKs nightmare
lusty jungle
Muh ilvl
oblique trail
Save your gilded to actually upgrade your gear and don't craft until you have upgraded the rest of your gear to 636+
weary sail
Unless ur crafting weapons
pale lava
dont craft wrist to 636
no other slots for M+ embellishments
but ye
keep them at 619
tired brook
just leave ur wrist at 619 and spend gilded on other stuff u get
pale lava
for the moment
oblique trail
636 2nd craft is genuinely a month+ away for most people
pale lava
636 weapon turbo worth tho
oblique trail
Simply because of how many gilded you need now to upgrade to 639
worldly thunder
guys what crit/haste/mastery % should fury be aiming for ?
oblique trail
Whatever your top gear on Raidbots sims put you at
bitter palm
25484% of each
oblique trail
There are no %'s to reach
pale lava
i have a 636 and 639 wep feelsgoodman
636 626 so when I get a myth track one in vault I can just offhand the crafted one
win win situation
feral pine
So I should just farm a rind from mplus/raid and just upgrade what I have left
forest berry
hey guys i'm taking ovinax eggs over a weapon right ( not grimbatol ) ?
oblique trail
Ovinax trinket is not good
crisp bronze
I always feel comfy around 30% haste and over 40% mastery but sim is king
forest berry
even tho its hero weapon and i only have champ 8/8
spare steppe
can anyone help me with the trinkets
Whatâs up
feral pine
can anyone help me with the trinkets
those if youre lucky in raid
Ara-Kara Sacbrood and Mark of Khardros/Skarmorak Shard from mythic plus
forest berry
Ovinax trinket is not good
oh really, i thought it was good
forest berry
i should keep sacbrood and ritual knife then ?
oblique trail
Transmitter > Mark + Skarmorak for on-use options
Mandate 2nd option for Raid
Sacbrood 2nd option for M+
crisp bronze
Mad queen pumps it's like 2/3rd on details for most people in my raid that have it
jovial dagger
Playing next expansion
Brotherrr leave some for the rest of us too
crisp bronze
Ik my vault I'm stuck between choosing shard and the very rare neck with speed
forest berry
U can farm shard
fading bane
Ik my vault I'm stuck between choosing shard and the very rare neck with speed
neck easily
jovial coral
Ovinax trinket is not good
what about this one
oblique trail
what about this one
I think you should hide
bitter palm
pretty sure a lot of tanks want it no
jovial dagger
what about this one
Never seen that trink so it sucks
eternal lance
restive narwhal
When do want which of those ?
hardy cargo
Bladestorm icon on ST condemn icon in keys/cleave
restive narwhal
THX
arctic sinew
now play frenzied enrage too for enjoymentmaxxing
lament hinge
warm crag
you have a problem
smoky vale
thats cursed
floral olive
arctic sinew
Does anyone here run double on use in keys and getting better results over sac+onuse?
warm crag
this is like never accurate
autumn dove
trinket
pearl sequoia
do logs lock in every daily reset
dusty cove
is warrior on the list for a rework?
eternal sundial
do logs lock in every daily reset
Yes
dusty rose
floral olive
this is like never accurate
Why? It really like I have in game:)
First expansion where I see it perfectly identical
eternal sundial
Why? It really like I have in game:)
First expansion where I see it perfectly id...
Stats give less % the higher you go
The site doesnt show it
tired brook
theres an addon named truevalues that shows softcapping starting at 20k dont know how accurate that is
warm crag
that addon has done irrecoverable damage
floral olive
Stats give less % the higher you go
Yeah, but for now I didnât reached it in any of stats
flat river
so i simmed again
i got the raid neck in vault
it's better in raid
but weaker in m+
actually i think it's weaker overall now that i think about it since i use frenzied enrage
warm crag
did someone force you at gunpoint to kneecap your damage
i pray archi does not recommend you to play frenzied in raid
pearl sequoia
frenzied for single target but powerful on basically every boss that has adds lol
arctic sinew
frenzied on rasha imo
fading sky
Ye and if st u play armsđ
warm crag
frenzied on rasha imo
you ESPECIALLY do not play frenzied on rashanan
flat river
i would've said i made the wrong vault choice
arctic sinew
you ESPECIALLY do not play frenzied on rashanan
well wclogs made u grief logs if u play properly
warm crag
well wclogs made u grief logs if u play properly
ok and
flat river
but the other choice was a 500 dmg upgrade
warm crag
why are you letting wclogs dictate what you play instead of playing what is optimal
warm crag
raid neck is better
flat river
not what raidbots says
flat river
i dont know
radiant plank
sim dn
heavy dock
yall want some more shit trinkets
hot topaz
both my sims and my logs are showing crushing blow out damaging rampage.... is this normal or is something fundamentally wrong on my character?
warm crag
why is neither neck socketed
radiant plank
both my sims and my logs are showing crushing blow out damaging rampage.... is t...
normal
warm crag
perish in flames!
flat river
one of them is
warm crag
why dont u have a crafted wep
flat river
because i mainly do m+?
smoky vale
?
lusty jungle
does hunter mark apply to the whole raids dmg on target above 80% or only the hunters?
smoky vale
how does that make sense
warm crag
yes? guaranteed mythic ilvl weapon is probably the optimal pick for like the first half of the season?
warm crag
does hunter mark apply to the whole raids dmg on target above 80% or only the hu...
should be full raid but i swear it was 95% or above
warm crag
yes? guaranteed mythic ilvl weapon is probably the optimal pick for like the fir...
after which you have enough sparks to craft whatever you want
flat river
yes? guaranteed mythic ilvl weapon is probably the optimal pick for like the fir...
so i should
smoky vale
yes
smoky vale
unless you have gotten 2 mythic weapons
warm crag
you shouldve ye
flat river
i have 2 hero weapons
warm crag
idk when you get enough sparks to craft the wep
smoky vale
so you craft a weapon if you have the resources avail
warm crag
like next week?
flat river
like next week?
yes next week
warm crag
like if ur raiding no reasonable guild will give u 2 mythic weps, paladins and dks can use it for crests
and the chance u fish two mythic weps from vault quickly is like zero
radiant plank
you dont
flat river
like if ur raiding no reasonable guild will give u 2 mythic weps, paladins and d...
i just made the cloak and wrist for emb
flat river
i didnt even get the max lvl crest
i have 30 so far
if i did craft a weapon it would be 606
or 619
warm crag
my trinkets are super dog
u can just add farmable stuff in top gear and assume from that standpoint
flat river
which i already have 2 of
smoky vale
sounds like you need to do 9s and 10s
flat river
i do
heavy dock
no way detachable fang is good on st right lol
warm crag
i dont see how ovinax trinket is an optimal choice out of any vault ever as long as sockets are an option
heavy dock
u can just add farmable stuff in top gear and assume from that standpoint
ive done 30 grim batols+sv last week i lost hope
smoky vale
ive done 30 grim batols+sv last week i lost hope
do it again
heavy dock
getting this for aoe
smoky vale
and not double catalyzed
heavy dock
ill prob just grab the myth ring
flat river
ive done 30 grim batols+sv last week i lost hope
still using VETERAN sacbrood but got hero shard from stonevault 
bold sparrow
yea i have used my catalyze charges
smoky vale
do we not have 3 at this point?
flat river
these are my stats with emergancy keychain neck
and these are my stats with raid neck
oblique trail
ok đ
agile crystal
and these are my stats with raid neck
which of these sim better?
flat river
which of these sim better?
raid neck in ST and keychain neck in MT/M+
radiant plank
smoky vale
rotund ginkgo
@radiant plank ur so real for that queen
smoky vale
@rotund ginkgo hi :3
rotund ginkgo
pala with 14 casts of kick, 5 of which didnt connect, in 14 mins, says we didnt kick enough
which?
the one where u trained for 4 hours?
gaunt moat
plz blizzard announce thane single target buff tonight
mossy fox
pala with 14 casts of kick, 5 of which didnt connect, in 14 mins, says we didnt ...
thats pretty good
smoky vale
@rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
thats pretty good
pretty big i agree
covert void
are we valuing heroic sikran neck over a myth tier piece? hm
rotund ginkgo
<@185013148506521600>
ye ur insane
idk
u just afk attacking it while u go shower or sth
teal lagoon
merry jetty
Hmm mythic Chest or haste mastery ring
tiny seal
https://www.wowhead.com/news/warband-bank-now-works-with-crafting-orders-in-patc...
were not in 11.05 yet
thankfully
gusty cloak
Hmm mythic Chest or haste mastery ring
huge cloak
night relic
oh is that the anniversary patch
rustic kelp
are we valuing heroic sikran neck over a myth tier piece? hm
i have the exact same Issue:D I could choose: Myth Track Hands, 626 Sikran neck, or Ring from Ovi as champion track...
night relic
thought that was this reset
merry jetty
huge cloak
Crit haste hero track
covert void
i have the exact same Issue:D I could choose: Myth Track Hands, 626 Sikran neck,...
Literally, myth tier gloves / legs or heroic sikran neck. Already have an emergency stop with leech / sockets.
Feels rough picking heroic pieces over myth when i dont do mythic raid
radiant plank
<@865605822638063647> ur so real for that queen
wanton cliff
rustic kelp
Literally, myth tier gloves / legs or heroic sikran neck. Already have an emerge...
Yep! Exactly. I have already the "Bis" Neck from StoneVault dropped on Champion, so on 619. I could switch it now with Sikran neck with Socket on 626 or switch my Champion Set Hands with the Mythic track ones...
covert void
I mean, Sikran myth is pretty puggable right? first 3/4 are.
So might not bother too much with grabbing the heroic neck
rustic kelp
But i feel like that everyone would like that neck đ
covert void
aha fair
covert void
Gosh i have no idea
i mean, myth tier gloves simmed higher for me for some reason anyways but ye
warm crag
ragish sim my character for me please
smoky vale
u just afk attacking it while u go shower or sth
nah i was in discord talking shit with the boys while i hit the dummy
rotund ginkgo
ur so eral
@warm crag no
im going to the gym
i ba
cba
nw11 4 bricks in a row
warm crag
bitch
smoky vale
ive bricked so many 10s from people leaving like 3 minutes in
when they are messing up
runic violet
I think... dps warrior has fallen out of ppl's eyes for M+
warm crag
you do +5s you are entirely unaffected by people's vision of the meta
runic violet
I mean like 9 or higher
smoky vale
I think... dps warrior has fallen out of ppl's eyes for M+
which is why ive been playing prot the entire season
charred panther
Blessed to not have to pug much on the main
runic violet
prot is doing good I believe
narrow narwhal
Prot fun
smoky vale
ur so eral
what else am i supposed to do, one leveled and instantly quick other didnt want to come boost with me so gg
rotund ginkgo
I'm looking at M+ compositions on raider io
wow
thats crazy
who asked
jk yeah warr is deadge
warm crag
what are you looking at, like the top 10 keys or
narrow narwhal
Wow that's crazy, who asked
rotund ginkgo
thats not new though
narrow narwhal
Just play a different class at this point. It's so annoying to come in here and only see folks crying
runic violet
not top 10 key... I keep flipping through pages.
rotund ginkgo
very diverse
radiant plank
granite glade
chrome plover
very diverse
and then your eyes get to healers
smoky vale
peak gameplay
runic violet
what website is that
smoky vale
đ
rotund ginkgo
mythicstats
its absolutely great for stats
the tierlist is dogshit
cuz warcraftlogs calculates damage WITH downtime
details overall can be 1.4m but on logs itll show like 1.1-1.2m
chrome plover
those are df s4, s3, s2, s1
yeah it's just not really better the first few weeks of the season is it
apart from s4
smoky vale
also ragish im playing aug in keys for a group 
rotund ginkgo
also ragish im playing aug in keys for a group <:ratge:890357732543168594>
hope u deplete
smoky vale
â¤ď¸
rotund ginkgo
yeah it's just not really better the first few weeks of the season is it
regardless currently the meta is nto that bad
warrs arent dogshit YET
and ofc for 11/12s people just want big numbers
so thats normal
runic violet
almost dogshit
chrome plover
i think dps is looking good yea i agree, tanks are good too
but i think healers were in for a 90% resto shaman in a few weeks
chrome plover
maybe pres can claw some spaces because their hps is so insane
granite glade
realistically does meta matter at all if ur only running like 7-9
rotund ginkgo
on another note
im alrdy burnt out on raiding
lol
@granite glade no
not at all
narrow narwhal
Why ragish
glass rose
Healer balance is just always cursed in keys its actually insane
rotund ginkgo
literally negative matters
chrome plover
im enjoying this raid a lot
granite glade
rgr
chrome plover
Healer balance is just always cursed in keys its actually insane
HI
smoky vale
i miss amirdrassil
narrow narwhal
Oh rip
runic violet
U gotta do 10s to get myth gears...
narrow narwhal
I will be there in a few weeks
smoky vale
minus council
chrome plover
i am a warrior now
NO WAY
runic violet
it's almost impossible to get in 10s without super high io or gear
rotund ginkgo
ovinax is worse than tindral because in tindral u can at least identify "im on p1 p2 p3"
smoky vale
it's almost impossible to get in 10s without super high io or gear
do your own key?
chrome plover
it's almost impossible to get in 10s without super high io or gear
that's always the case for dps role
rotund ginkgo
we reached like 50? 60? ovinax
yesterday
before nerfs
so we probs can kill this week
but it just FEELS
like a fucking dogshow
cuz ur just REPEATEDLY doing the same shit over and over in 30s increments
and if u fuck up u just wipe
chrome plover
we only had 1 night on ovinax and only got to like 80% so it doesnt feel bad yet
runic violet
ovinax fight is exhausting
chrome plover
surely with nerfs it actually feels good to prog 
floral olive
If it only 2k+ then itâs bad. Coz I like get it on Wednesday start of season, and on I canât reach higher 2,2k coz nobody wants war in group. I reg with friend rsham, and he got whispered from few people that they can inc him without me:)
barren coral
nerf fury dmg by his pickrate
warm crag
we reached like 50? 60? ovinax
i think you should either go gym or sim my character
barren coral
im not trying to ragebait but genuinely curious why are there so many fury nerf complaints, while also seeming arms being the better raid spec in terms of boss dps, but everybody plays fury anyways?
floral olive
ewww warrior
Yeah, something like that đ
radiant plank
Fury players cant play Arms but Arms players can play fury
even if Arms is the better spec
fury will still have a larger playerbase
radiant plank
Read this chat at any given time for 10minutes and you will findout
floral olive
Fury players cant play Arms but Arms players can play fury
So Iâm arms? Coz I played it in df after played only fury
warm crag
Read this chat at any given time for 10minutes and you will findout
you are spherical
barren coral
i was thinking of switching to arms too but i cba taking the time to find weapons
meager void
heyo does Improved Bloodthirst also buff Bloodbath dmg?
mossy fox
arms plays like poop rn, fury doesnt
runic violet
heyo does Improved Bloodthirst also buff Bloodbath dmg?
yes
radiant plank
arms plays like poop rn, fury doesnt
How does FDK play 
smoky vale
Fury players cant play Arms but Arms players can play fury
amen
plush flower
What makes it seem below average
mossy fox
How does FDK play <a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
plays better than arms, very limited experience though
runic violet
summer knoll
Hey guys, is ring from ansurek good? Got hc ring in vault and thinking between myth set pants and this ring
floral olive
arms plays like poop rn, fury doesnt
Yeah, but still it zugzug
smoky vale
hi crit :3
mossy fox
hi
summer knoll
Hey guys, is ring from ansurek good? Got hc ring in vault and thinking between m...
Simmed and wiht full upgrades legs slightly better. But legs are kinda easy to find through season
radiant plank
you are spherical
Can you translate, my london not good
warm crag
Can you translate, my london not good
you are ball
plush flower
https://mythicstats.com/dps
All this shows is that they are basically middle of the pack
verbal rivet
Acting like arms is the pinnacle of spec difficulty is wild.
radiant plank
you are ball
Damn, i thought triangle
granite glade
you are ball, blizzard kick ball
barren coral
https://mythicstats.com/dps
wow this fucking pisses me off i wish i was oblivious to this now
bottom 5
still basin
kinda out of the loop, do we just want mastery haste sockets or really 4 colors? the sims are so negligible
runic violet
I can't stand skullsplitter .. one big reason i don't play arms this season
plush flower
Basing your reason why you think the spec is not great based off of mythicstats is a horrible way to look at performance
barren coral
bottom 5 what
verbal rivet
Tf made BM hunt F tier lmao
warm crag
me when i post a contextless filtered graph
granite glade
anyone with WW exp, how does it feel compared to fury? playstyle-wise
barren coral
me when i post a contextless filtered graph
filtered by literally the last week?
what context do you want?
warm crag
yeah when you post a graph you have to post the context
i can also post random colours and it will mean as much if you dont show what you're filtering by
verbal rivet
anyone with WW exp, how does it feel compared to fury? playstyle-wise
Wym playstyle wise?
barren coral
is the context you're looking for a physical manifestation within our reality?
literally what do you want to know lmao
proud crown
granite glade
@verbal rivet does it feel fast/smooth like fury (most of the time)
warm crag
you dont have to be ridiculous all you had to do was screenshot the entire graph with the filter parameter or say outright what the filter parameters are
meager void
its funny
people get more data for nuance
but turn it into stupid tier lists anyway
warm crag
does it even define the tiers or
proud crown
man when are we getting buffed
runic violet
It's not absolute but it's statistics.
barren coral
does it even define the tiers or
the tiers are meaningless, probably some sort of damage bracket
verbal rivet
<@297899288036376597> does it feel fast/smooth like fury (most of the time)
Not many things have the fast spammy feel. WW has a channel that people hate on. If you want that super fast game play, look at Havoc or Frost.
meager void
nah but top gud, bottom bad
warm crag
Tier is the average DPS for each role divided into 6 equally sized tiers (S, A, B, C, D, F). There will always be atleast one spec in S-tier and one spec in F-tier for each role. F-tier is not always bad, just means that the spec is the lowest DPS for the role.
granite glade
@verbal rivet gotcha, thanks
barren coral
Tier is the average DPS for each role divided into 6 equally sized tiers (S, A, ...
F tier can sometimes not be bad, i dont think it has ever been true yet though
because it would imply everything from top to bottom is well balanced, which is an insane task
warm crag
i dont like their definition of tiers
runic violet
u can look it up by dungeon... yes it differs by dungeons
lilac osprey
Also that's ranking by averages which is a terrible way to judge performance especially on a fotm spec
warm crag
saying the tier sizes are equally sized but then allowing dps and tank and healers to take up those spaces is not a good comparison
meager void
tiers are the wow version of buzzfeed lists
barren coral
u can look it up by dungeon... yes it differs by dungeons
its nice to look at but i dont bother, swapping specs/classes for each individual dung is kinda insane if ur not doing +11 or higher
inner shadow
which is better?
smoky vale
It's not absolute but it's statistics.
"All models are wrong, but some are useful"
verbal rivet
Also that's ranking by averages which is a terrible way to judge performance esp...
Or specs that are never FotM. Like Shadow Priest.
Absolute animals on that spec
inner shadow
its nice to look at but i dont bother, swapping specs/classes for each individua...
NICE PFP FELLOW CULTURED JOJO FAN
barren coral
<3
torpid crater
Quick question which crafted weapon is the best Claymore or Greataxe ?
ashen socket
Doesnt matter
torpid crater
Ok, thank you
tawdry meteor
what to pick? sureki is hero track and keychain is myth. is the effect of sureki worth it?
runic violet
I think axe had like 0.1 dps more
barren coral
doesnt matter but claymore cheaper
smoky vale
if good info is posting a graph without context 
barren coral
looking at the bottom of a graph in reply to a website dps link and asking about the context makes me wonder how some navigate real life
full mantle
was playing frost DK, made a fury warrior, have fallen in love and am now changing mains
so hello đ
ashen socket
was playing frost DK, made a fury warrior, have fallen in love and am now changi...
You messed up
full mantle
what by playing my frost DK for so long or?
ashen socket
More like Fdk has an easier time getting into groups for higher keys
if you do that of course
full mantle
I don't do that atm
keen nimbus
2.7k rio alnost, 622 ilvl
ashen socket
Ah then youare fine
ashen socket
I want to do fury keys but I am not waiting 30-hr to get into them
full mantle
I mainly raid with guild
ashen socket
so I am playing prot in keys rn
full mantle
rarely do keys atm
ashen socket
and I get to brick 7 keys an hour
keen nimbus
Haha
ashen socket
I am only 2400 rn but with the pug life it makes sense
I deffo feel like I could be 2600
meager void
what to pick? sureki is hero track and keychain is myth. is the effect of sureki...
thats a tough choice. I would mythic neck as the 10ilvls (363) would be better than a 626 sureki
ashen socket
Just need a group full of people that arent shit at dps ig
fervent yoke
was playing frost DK, made a fury warrior, have fallen in love and am now changi...
Godspeed friend youâre going from top to bottom gl
full mantle
don't push keys, raid 1xheroic and 1xnormal a week. don't think I'm as m+ focused/hardcore as most in here. just find the class fun
swift citrus
Guys, Seal of the Poisoned Pact is our BiS ring?
full mantle
but thanks ig hahaha
swift citrus
I am currently on 2set and have 1x curio and can choose vault item to catalyst it into 4set
But I also got that Ansurek ring in the vault too
hardy cargo
Ansurek ring owns
jovial coral
omg look guys @oblique trail get owned by random
oblique trail
I make those around me feel better
zealous stone
how do you guys sim for stats weight
jovial coral
I make those around me feel better
thats sounds hella sus
eternal sundial
I sim them like this
You're 2nd on this details screenshot i wont listen to you..
oblique trail
omg look guys <@102464908976730112> get owned by random
I did kinda own this random though
eternal sundial
HOLY
jovial coral
abstract canopy
Boomerang is good
Is it clunky to use?
eternal sundial
- better details skin
oblique trail
+ better details skin
The full one looks better
narrow narwhal
Spooky anime girl pfp banezi
oblique trail
Also I had Ergawprotectionwarrior so the only possibility is to do many damage
arctic sinew
The full one looks better
drututt viewer?
oblique trail
When I played League yes
swift citrus
From the gems, should I have one of each color and one culminating blasphemite? I am asking couse my raidbots sugested to stac quick onyx
stack*
oblique trail
You can check this by ticking the "always use" and "4+ colours" underneath the Blasphemite gem in the gem selection section
mossy fox
omg look guys <@102464908976730112> get owned by random
benzai probably played AM here
oblique trail
fluid kite
Guys, what secondary stats did you put on the charged claymore? Did you sim it?
warm crag
banezi is a noob
oblique trail
Guys, what secondary stats did you put on the charged claymore? Did you sim it?
Haste/mast, anything mastery is fine
south kayak
Got it on my enha
vocal siren
What WA are people using for marked for execution stacks/enrage
inner harbor
What WA are people using for marked for execution stacks/enrage
first one that pops on wago
narrow narwhal
I just use luxthos. I know jeventes has one called "execution helper" that makes a noise when you're at 3 stacks, juggernaut is about to fall off, or if your SD stacks are maxed/about to fall off
vocal siren
im using luxthos too but my attention is bad
compact reef
Guys as mage i would get more invited to m+ than fury or Hunter?
vocal siren
ill check jeventes
runic violet
Guys as mage i would get more invited to m+ than fury or Hunter?
yes
worldly thunder
guys is 705K overall damage shit for 605 ilevel fury ? low level m+
compact reef
How about paladĂns?
runic violet
paly too
compact reef
And between paladĂns and mages?
dawn moon
Did someone try Wrecking Throw for the affix this week ? Is it worth to use it ?
dawn moon
Depend if the add scale with key lvl
left citrus
hello, can't decide, is the heroic queen trinket worth picking over a 623 myth catalyst shoulders that would save me 15 gilded? simming shows 12k dps more with trinket, got hero shard and 610 sac, thanks for reading my essay
inner shadow
any addon that helps you choose bis weapons?
oblique trail
Depend if the add scale with key lvl
Even on a +10 it dies quickly
runic violet
that affix is just meh..
frail trout
I'm not sure why people were dreading that affix before it released
I'm dreading the affix that requires more party dispels
It's hard enough to get into keys
fiery hare
myth track sacbrood lets goo,replacing my 593 sacbrood đ
crisp prism
i got this bad boy
frail trout
I yoinked a myth track skamorak shard, kinda dope
Replaced my 606 veteran track trinket from grim batol
crisp prism
on city of threads overall just to healer it restored 650k mana
100x proc
uptime is insane
runic violet
I see uptime like.. 40~50%
hard widget
gaunt moat
BUFF MOUNTAIN THANE ST OR I RIOT
inner shadow
i got this bad boy
from mythic raiding or how?>
how do u get ilvl 639 gear
i just got back to the game
crisp prism
from mythic raiding or how?>
4/8 mythic vault
mossy fox
that neck is always 639 from mythic sikran
floral olive
i think every very rare item comes at max level
Not normal
crisp prism
Not normal
i meant max of their up track
floral olive
i meant max of their up track
I understood, but from normal you will receive champion 613 or 616 l
Not 619
forest berry
hey guys kinda lost on my vault currently have a 8/8 champion 2H and the other one crafter but struggle getting into +9 should i wait for grim batol weapon or i take one of these 2 items ?
crisp prism
hey guys kinda lost on my vault currently have a 8/8 champion 2H and the other o...
tbh i would get a trinket and try to farm 7s for hc track
swift citrus
One more question, why isn't raidbot counting my 4set?
forest berry
tbh i would get a trinket and try to farm 7s for hc track
what's hc track ???
crisp prism
what's hc track ???
heroic track
oblique trail
One more question, why isn't raidbot counting my 4set?
It does if you allow it to
crisp prism
scales up to 626
oblique trail
As in have 4 tier pieces it can choose from
Keep in mind though the 4p is pretty bad, so if you have big ilvl differences between a tier piece and an off piece, it could sim better with the off piece
forest berry
scales up to 626
yeah but i will need crests that are only in 9+ no ?
crisp prism
i think you can up with heroic track crest till some point
trinkets are hard to come by but you can farm weapons
at some point you will be able to get the crest anyway
oblique trail
Hero track items can go up to 619 with Runed Crests, then all the way up to 626 with Gilded crests
nimble kraken
Hero 4/6 and champ 8/8 are the same ilvl respectively
The bonus to hero track gear is you have the option to go higher once you can get better access to content that gives gilded crests
forest berry
The bonus to hero track gear is you have the option to go higher once you can ge...
that's pretty dumb to me no ?
nimble kraken
But 100% 9âs are no joke, so farming champ lower or hero 1 pieces out of 7 keys is pretty reasonable unless youâre a strong player
warm crag
Hero track items can go up to 619 with Runed Crests, then all the way up to 626 ...
punching you
oblique trail
punching you
I think you should calm down before I time you out for 0.0001 microseconds
nimble kraken
I mean if youâre good, you can probably do all the content in full champ 8/8 gear. You wonât pump, you will get checked by aoe mechanics or dots etc. itâll just demand very good knowledge of the content youâre doing to run DRâs correctly or interrupt/stun appropriately.
People in 619 are able to do 10 keys, and 619 is champ 8/8
warm crag
I think you should calm down before I time you out for 0.0001 microseconds
look at general
gloomy loom
What to get from vault? A piece of tier set hero or stone vault trinket hero?
forest berry
I'd say tier set
if u don't have ur 4P yet and u don't have money to transform items in tier set bonus
gloomy loom
if u don't have ur 4P yet and u don't have money to transform items in tier set ...
Already have 4 tier set but one is Champion
left citrus
is it worth picking heroic mandate in vault over myth shoulders which would save me 15 gilded? got 619 shard, 610 sac, all hero track tier pieces
stoic storm
so like, are we arms now?
forest berry
so like, are we arms now?
are we ???
gloomy loom
so like, are we arms now?
Never
hard widget
so like, are we arms now?
U can be whatever you like to be
I personally prefer to play holy Warrior
stoic storm
last in ST
6th from bottom in overall
gonna play fury, but they kinda overdid it with the nerfs, no?
gloomy loom
Who care, now we can only get buffs
forest berry
why fury and arms can't have same stats. I would love to switch during weeks
lapis slate
Wrong, now we can get ignored
forest berry
wdym why would secondaries prevent you from switching
yeah u're right but i don't know i always felt like it would be cool for most specs to have same secondaries stats. So you're not forced to choose one. Maybe it would make the game too casual idk
exotic glacier
I personally prefer to play holy Warrior
forest berry
Sorry i mean frost Warrior
like shaman đ
vestal root
smh rerollers
wuss
once fdk gets nerfed suddenly all these "warrior mains" gonna be back huh
gaunt moat
It's tonight that they announce the buff to mountain thane st i'm sure of it
pure nest
what talents are people running this week in m+
i want wrecking throw for the affix
but not sure what to drop
coarse nest
The same ones weâve been running
You donât need to bother with wrecking throw at all
gaunt moat
i want wrecking throw for the affix
Sadly wrecking throw has been forgotten in the aura buff during the beta so it's an almost dead talent
fickle cedar
coarse nest
The thing lived for maybe 6-10 seconds in the +10s I was running
pure nest
Sadly wrecking throw has been forgotten in the aura buff during the beta so it's...
oh wow really
gaunt moat
Yes
coarse nest
And monk can instantly Touch of Death them every like minute or two idr the cd on that ability
delicate yacht
I'm experiencing burn out and the game just came out. I'm not sure what's left in the game outside like mythic raiding
This is bad for me
coarse nest
Play an alt once your rewards are maxed on the main for the week
Or try getting into pushing M+ score
delicate yacht
I think what's bumming me out is mythic 10 can't drop mythic gear
fickle cedar
Or maybe try and play another game, preferable singleplayer, you dont have to only play wow
coarse nest
I never really get the burnout since my play time is limited to roughly 3 hours a day
Sometimes get to binge on the weekends
dusk knot
i got 6 tokens im so lucky this week
delicate yacht
I think what happened is I went so hard during the weeks where nothing was really available
Then I made heroic and normal raid obsolete within 2 weeks
mossy fox
Or maybe try and play another game, preferable singleplayer, you dont have to on...
wait what
delicate yacht
Which I don't find has happened this fast before
past pivot
Just be in Arms loot spec. Never have to be in fury loot spec. Ever.
meager void
Or maybe try and play another game, preferable singleplayer, you dont have to on...
burn the heretic.
coarse nest
Then I made heroic and normal raid obsolete within 2 weeks
Pretty much all mythic raiders
Mythic raid and pushing io is the primary reason to keep playing
Unless you know youâre into collecting or whatever
eternal sundial
Damn Phil you beat me to the punch line
Gt fkd
coarse nest
Owned
coarse nest
radiant plank
any gamer know where this 5d thing on my screen is
radiant plank
it only loads when in raid boss combat
coarse nest
5 Dyards range
oblique beacon
Does anyone know at the last boss in city of echos, when she casts singularity and we get sucked in. Can we heroic leap out of it 1 sec before the boss blows it up?
eternal sundial
any gamer know where this 5d thing on my screen is
Check ur was
U have an unconfigured Text wa
IMO
coarse nest
Does anyone know at the last boss in city of echos, when she casts singularity a...
Iâve tried a couple times I havenât been able to get the timing right
empty widget
sup guys any idea what to pick here? Transmitter is the obv choice, but I kind of don't want to deal with the hassle. the knife has an avoidance proc, but the ring is juicy as well. Sim says Transmitter, then Ring. Knife in ST ass, in AoE pretty good.
coarse nest
Better to just go into a purple root and then charge out of it back to boss
thorny shoal
Does anyone know at the last boss in city of echos, when she casts singularity a...
you can, i usually try to do it with less than a second left
golden hare
Does anyone know at the last boss in city of echos, when she casts singularity a...
we can, i reliably do it every time. leap just after 1 sec left
at 1 sec she does the big pull-in
empty widget
https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082
hahaha ye for whatever reason when I use snipping tool on the OLED ist makes everything white af. đ
spare steppe
Yall doing shattering throw for the affix?
merry canyon
Keep current trinkets or use void pactstone? I've heard bad things about it but it has speed.
oblique trail
The pactstone smells
merry canyon
Yeah that's what i figured
exotic turtle
Whats peopleâs thoughts on Wings of shattered sorrow cloak? Got it in vault at 626? But no BiS list is showing it
coarse nest
Itâs sims a tad better than sac for strictly aoe for my toon
Makes sense that it would
oak peak
So treacherous transmitter is pretty awful to use in raid đ
radiant plank
U have an unconfigured Text wa
Let me see
oblique trail
So treacherous transmitter is pretty awful to use in raid đ
It's not
quick zodiac
I fking hate the affix this week oh ma
oblique trail
The affix honestly doesn't exist
oblique trail
The add dies quickly and the CDR barely affects you
quick zodiac
I hate it
clever belfry
Play mists last boss
i didnt notice it
oblique trail
I have done a mists already, last boss was not an issue
clever belfry
Just kill it?
oak peak
Not awful damage. But awful to use well. I can never see the stupid orb when it pops up in melee
quick zodiac
I have done a mists already, last boss was not an issue
We were 2 melees calling ranged diff
my boomy sucked
YEP
rigid stirrup
Affix is okay, the extra healing is nice
clever belfry
Not awful damage. But awful to use well. I can never see the stupid orb when it ...
It always spawns in the same spot
oblique trail
It spawns front right of you, so turn your character before you use the Transmitter
So you know where it is
rigid stirrup
but CDR is noticable because it throws off my transmittor
oak peak
Maybe i just need to use it more in M+ to get use to it before raid
quick zodiac
that my healer had like 300k hps
oak peak
Couple times i popped it only to realize the orb was up after CDs. Guess im bad lol
wheat gazelle
Is a VDH or a Prot War better for pugs? Like even geared and skill. I really wanna stay zug zug fury but my brother in christ is struggling.
timber harness
how does cdr affix work, do you get it retroactively or do you have to use your cds within that 20s window to get it
prob asked and answered already 8)
edgy widget
Keep current trinkets or use void pactstone? I've heard bad things about it but ...
Like 1% speed isnât worth caring about
crude hearth
how many times is unhinged supposed to proc BT?
on a single target according to details BS hit 10 times, BT only hit twice
merry canyon
Like 1% speed isnât worth caring about
ty ty
oblique trail
Crazy good picture but this shows how you'd position yourself assuming your target is in front of you and the approximate distance the pad/ball spawns from you, based on where you look
If the enemy is further to the left, you'd just turn yourself accordingly where you can stay in melee while also getting the ball/pad
clever belfry
You should draw a facing vec and angle it off that
oak peak
Ahh. Yeah just got it in my vault and first time using it was in raid, so it felt Pretty rough
oblique trail
Idk what a vec is đ
clever belfry
a vector my bruda
radiant plank
U have an unconfigured Text wa
Wasnt a WA
clever belfry
ballistic
oblique trail
clever belfry
civic schooner
anyone knows why sometimes when i recklessness + charge i dont have enough rage to rampage?
jovial coral
omg such knowledgeable guy this bonzo
covert blaze
@oblique trail thoughts on freaky anda?
oblique trail
I think that Anda should get a grip