#fury

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young swan
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that class fucks

lusty jungle
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You don't need to spend gilded if you have 636 already

warm crag
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Did the unhinged cleave also proc reap the storm?

young swan
warm crag
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Ye they are

young swan
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it was fucking bonkers

summer crater
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Are you fucking stupid? That's what's always checked

fringe vale
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they will probably make me reroll to arms once again

young swan
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if they want us to be "haha 5 target niche!" spec then let us actually fucking do that and make unhinged cleave

fringe vale
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ill try to push the fury play as long as i can

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its fun

chrome plover
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i top my 10s and top my raid i love fury

young swan
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^

hazy spruce
chrome plover
fringe vale
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i also love fury its really fun

summer crater
humble plover
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Doesn't this just make bladestorm stronger? Doesn't really help the sad st

summer quail
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this would be great, i personally would like a bt buff as well. bt so weak atm

young swan
summer quail
fringe vale
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yeah the class needs to be revised

humble plover
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I'm not advocating for that lol

fringe vale
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and wcl needs to stop being cringe

young swan
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i dont disagree ST needs help

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but thats not really the topic

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or rather, it wasnt the topic

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we can talk about ST if u want

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(we need god)

humble plover
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I've had the opinion that st abilities could use a buff and meat cleaver could be tuned better. Doesn't change burst, doesn't bandaid with tier set

young swan
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i think archi's proposition is prob the best

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lemme find it

abstract dawn
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I got my bis ring and bis weapon in my vault. why blizz making this hard to choose!

humble plover
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Idk. Changing tier bonus like he wants is just bandaid

young swan
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i mean sure

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but if it bandaids it long enough for them to come up with an actual good solution thats a W

tulip swallow
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If they don't push the target cap nerf I think we're perfectly fine tbh

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Our tier set sucks ass but that's just temporary

humble plover
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I found what he said when they asked earlier

nerf FDK, double the value of Fury's tier (~+2.5% ST/Cleave), and restore Unhinged cleave

tulip swallow
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Unhinged cleave sadge

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Surprise launch day patch "yeah we decided this was a bug, eat shit"

north edge
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if they remove shockwave and replace it with ancient aftershock

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id feel so good

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that knock would be amazing in this patch

tulip swallow
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Shockwave is in a pretty good place, would be nice if you could use it in bladestorm though

north edge
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the issue is everyone has stuns

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and shockwave half the time is a 0.1 sec stun

meager void
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yo what trinket hotfixes is raidbots talking about?

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north edge
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but knocking down enemies every 3 sec for 12 sec would be amazing

past pivot
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trinket tuning

tulip swallow
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They're in the news if you scroll a little bit back, outside of the ovinax trinket buff I don't think there are any notable changes

dusk knot
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i have 20 ms home latency and 50 ms world latency, can this impact gameplay at all and why is it happening pls ?

tulip swallow
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Those numbers are pretty good actually

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dusk knot
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nah its just im used to play at 20

hard widget
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So u have 30 mili seconds delay now

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Wich is 0.03 seconds

dusk knot
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unplayable thats why i dealt less dps last raid

hard widget
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Compared to before

dusk knot
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ty

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slim grotto
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Mandate or transmitter for M+ peepostudy

tulip swallow
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If you have one of the mastery on uses I would use that, otherwise transmitter

compact flint
tulip swallow
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mandate snipes become increasingly difficult as key levels go up, and the on use is purely single target

slim grotto
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How wonky is transmitter puzzle in the fray of m+ tho?

dry hawk
tulip swallow
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unless this is a vault question

slim grotto
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sadge they’re both in vault so I gotta choose one

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Ye

dawn geyser
tulip swallow
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Maybe a secondary stat dif, could be because of aoe sim too

bitter palm
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turn us into 5t monsters

chrome plover
compact flint
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So whats this thing about trinket hotfixes? When i sim my highest is transmitter are they getting a hotfix soon or can i go ahead and pick it from my vault?

dry hawk
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stat weights sim is bad right?

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after that sim my haste goes to shit

teal pine
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i do it every now and then for fun. just need to know what you're looking at

bitter palm
dry hawk
bitter palm
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read the effect

bitter palm
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its a very rare item

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only replacable by the mythic version

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or if ur stats are turbo cooked its replacable by something else but

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i would just take it

eager stirrup
dry hawk
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that stat trinket is prolly bad because no strength

bitter palm
hard widget
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I would sim it

hard widget
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Its all hero track

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Neck is only item that saves u crests realistically

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And apparently it sims the best for u

dry hawk
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its 6k dps increase or .6%

summer quail
slim grotto
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did everyone craft their 636 wep with vers/mas?? why not haste/mas?

summer quail
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i crafted mine with haste/mastery. not that it matters that much, who knows maybe at some point i recraft

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burnt stone
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Hello guys
Looking at the difficulty level of Ovinax Myth
I used AM. How about AM in M+? Are you too weak in ST battles?

summer quail
hard widget
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Lacks prio damage too

pale lava
young swan
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oh

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basically just double the value of tier, nerf frost dk and revert unhinged nerf

summer quail
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good solution. unhinged felt so goddamn good before

static rock
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can shattering throw break the shield affect?

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or is it just big damage

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static rock
hard widget
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Like do u mean for pvp or?

pale lava
hard widget
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It only does bonus dmg to shields

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I’d take wrecking throw

slim grotto
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sims are telling me mandate better, but everyone here swears by transmitter sadge wut do

hard widget
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But tbh just dont take any of em

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They’re both wack

manic pelican
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do we like Imperfect Ascendancy Serum Trinket?

clever belfry
young swan
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transmitter has more use cases cause it does big fuck aoe

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mad queens is just giga ST/prio

subtle rock
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Ayo, quick question, Befoulers Syringe is simming 16k more dps for ST for my vault choice. its either that or a myth track ring thats better for M+. Does the Syringe actually proc enough or is it sim bait

summer quail
fiery storm
slim grotto
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tierlist I need both then

compact flint
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summer quail
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and what are the stats on the ring

teal pine
compact flint
teal pine
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I wouldn’t want one

subtle rock
hard widget
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But i guess there could be a window of an hour where it isnt

slim grotto
# young swan we use both

if you had to choose one (since both are in vault) as a gamer who primarily does M+ and heroic raid clear what would you advise?

summer quail
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idk, i wouldn't take befoulers personally. very few scenarios where you're in pure st

summer quail
slim grotto
heady saffron
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🫔

hard widget
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I dont like transmitter

young swan
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i like transmitter

hard widget
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Why

summer quail
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makes you do big damage

hard widget
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Can also run skarmorak shard or smth

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Also makes u do bit damage

native mortar
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Is treacherous transmitter sim bait? Deciding between 603 transmitter and a 610 Mark of Khardros

summer quail
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ye i run mark, just coz that's the only thing i've looted

hard widget
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I had the chance to take it from vault

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I did not take it

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And i dont regret it

summer quail
lament lagoon
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Guys I still feel stronk I’m scared

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slim grotto
lament lagoon
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Dk? Do I look brain dead to u

hard widget
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There is no correct answer to this question

lament lagoon
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Anyways last night I accidentally clicked mog on ulgrax mythic wep

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Does that answer it

hard widget
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🤐

summer quail
lament lagoon
young swan
ornate bobcat
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anyone have the updated food buff dps string?

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for raidbots?

barren coral
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any reason to use base execute without ashen jugg specced?

restive pewter
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mfe procs probably

hard widget
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Now that would be a cool trinket

restive pewter
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it should make u play a game of adc

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restive pewter
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adc in low master

rigid stirrup
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anyone know if wrecking throw is worth taking for the affix this week?

hard widget
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No

rigid stirrup
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kk ty

glass nebula
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Should I keep trying for t2 zekvir as 609 ilvl, I consistently get him to p2 but the brann dispelling keeps screwing me over as there is no way to keep the heal interrupted and poison, and every now and then he has a delay

rigid stirrup
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can anyone here confirm or deny

eager relic
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You guys use RA or AM on Brood?

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I know guide says RA but I think AM feels better

hazy cosmos
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AM is better for brood

glass nebula
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Eggs are sometimes not dying on time, thinking that makes it a gear issue as well, as it throws off the fight to deal with/stunlock the add to death

hazy cosmos
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at least on mythic

honest quiver
glass nebula
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Wait, those dispell it? Fml

hazy cosmos
nocturne agate
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Leap charge and odyns fury for poison. Other cds eggs only

sinful glen
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anyone here uses fireblood in their rotation? would you macro it with recklesness and just take the 30 sec down time (would be a minute actually) on the chin? šŸ˜›

merry raft
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with speed #winning

merry raft
thin cliff
merry raft
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Idk then i had no issues on the 3rd boss

chrome plover
thorny peak
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So its tier > weapons > trinkets > everything else right?

left tapir
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guys what do you think about the current fury state

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so are we scraping the barrell again?

split coyote
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trinket?

wispy thistle
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sim it

teal pine
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not really a sim question on that though

lean heart
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fellas what do i do here lmao

lusty jungle
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W-W-WW3 STAWTED AND screams IM OUT HEWE THINKING ABOUT HOW BWIZZAWD TOOK MY 3 PEWCENT, FUWY STIWW FINyE AF

lean heart
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623 shard kinda fat..

nimble ermine
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trinket surely

frozen lake
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Shard

lean heart
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thinking shard too

split coyote
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thinking trinket too, ty

nimble ermine
restive peak
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Same question for Sobie

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That cloak is irreplaceable, the trinkets from 626 to 636 are not that massive

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If I didn't raid mythic consistently I'd be taking the rare cloak

quartz tulip
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I took cloak

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Giga Chad cloak

rose crag
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does wrecking throw and shattering throw work on voidbound affix mob?

paper iron
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Dumb question but only doing fury doing raid and here and there for mythic + (run tank for those). Reworking my talents and bar. Do yall even have slam on your bars at all

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During*

restive peak
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The cloak is legit only replaced by a 639 1, and the trinkets aren't even BIS BIS

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They're BIS for AOE

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But 626 to 636 is so little

slim grotto
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is transmitter > shard/mark?

quartz tulip
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Sim

quartz tulip
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No one understands

lean heart
oblique trail
lean heart
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i just took the trinket

quartz tulip
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L

split coyote
oblique trail
quartz tulip
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You prolly won’t see that cloak again

oblique trail
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15k primary stat during your CDs is infinitely more value than 5-6k mastery

paper iron
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Gotcha, I'm looking around on YouTube for a good guide. As well as macros. Currently my trinkets are meat hook and skyterrors corrosive organ

lean heart
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transmitter kinda funky to use in keys for me personally

paper iron
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So for aoe build I can yeet slam off my bars then

oblique trail
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Correct

wicked dew
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Is it just me or is the raider.io addon still showing season 4 dungeons and shit?

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Is anyone's updated?

oblique trail
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I have only seen S1 dungeons showup from TWW

rose crag
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mine is fine

tight grove
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mine works

wicked dew
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Hmm maybe I just uninstall and reinstall

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oh now it works

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good ol' blow on the cartridge technique

south seal
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Should we turn this into a dk discord

restive peak
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It's by far giga bis, sim the 626 shard vs a 636, decide then

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Unless you had mark, can't remember who had which, but the same

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626 vs 636

hazy spruce
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anyone know if mad queen's mandate works off of avatar - reck, testing on dummy, not really seeing it

willow cradle
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The ability tooltips says they only impact class abilities

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That's why

verbal rivet
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When the fury burst rotation was pop all CDs, use a trinket. Top DPS

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mossy fox
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i havent joined dk discord yet

acoustic yoke
restive peak
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I don't need mage discord, class is legit braindead

acoustic yoke
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And if they do it's unintended

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restive peak
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Can't believe these guys pretend it's hard LOL

median kestrel
acoustic yoke
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Yes

mossy fox
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i think it's so insane i almost did 1m overall on my 570 dk with 546 weapons keks

restive peak
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My mage, in true alt fashion, got spymasters+poison ring+4pce+other bis ring in his heroic clear

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verbal rivet
restive peak
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restive peak
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Questionable why mage is allowed yes

pliant jackal
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Even with nerf its still probably going to be strong lol

hard widget
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TBH, im considering enha

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Looks pretty fun and strong

restive peak
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It's whack a mole

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Did not enjoy

mossy fox
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enhance does a lot of dam for sure

restive peak
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110%, it's also not fun

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But also it's gonna start dying in high keys

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mossy fox
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whack a mole is like playing arms

restive peak
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DK is safe barring huge nerfs because it's giga tanky and also UH is as busted as frost, just under the radar

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So when FDK gets nuked, UHDK just slots in

glass nebula
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@honest quiver @hazy cosmos @nocturne agate @chrome plover thanks for the tips. Got a couple of 30% attempts but too tired too continue. I'll sleep on it and kill him tomorrow, it's much easier with the cd dispells

hard widget
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I’ve been saying this. Unholy is sick dmg

mossy fox
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is fdk overperforming on logs

hard widget
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Nah it isnt

restive peak
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Not for boss dam

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But they're what we were prenerf

mossy fox
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then they stay unnerfed

restive peak
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So it makes no sense to nerf us and not nerf them

hard widget
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I swear its time to roll assa rogue

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They’re shit in raid

ashen socket
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Yeah whoever made the affixs set the kitchen on fire

hard widget
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Watch them get buffed next week

ashen socket
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this is dogshit

restive peak
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See the issue is

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I hate the playstyles of enhance + assa

acoustic yoke
restive peak
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I at least enjoy fire mage

acoustic yoke
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Enhance is so fucking good I wanna reroll

mossy fox
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acoustic yoke
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But warr for prog

restive peak
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Have you played fire?

acoustic yoke
hard widget
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I hated mage ngl

restive peak
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It's giga fun, spammy, reactionary

mossy fox
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nah man fire is actually fun design

restive peak
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Great mobility and tankiness

hard widget
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I played it, did not enjoy

oblique trail
ashen socket
acoustic yoke
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Ignite fire?

hard widget
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Maybe i didnt give it enough time to properly learn it

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And i had no gear

mossy fox
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it's like as close to fury as you can get as caster

acoustic yoke
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Or we talking living bomba?

oblique trail
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I think every single spec actually should have a mechanic that punishes you for playing right

restive peak
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This is why I enjoy it

hard widget
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Maybe the revival of jevmage

restive peak
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But yes it sucks pre-gear

hard widget
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We can make a team crit keks

mossy fox
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i still didnt like firemage btw cause melee life is the way

restive peak
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Ofc, it's the lesser of the ranged classes

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I enjoy melee more

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But I dislike Assa+Enha playstyles

hard widget
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So its very gear dependent?

restive peak
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And I just refuse to full FOTM so I won't go DK

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Yeah

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VERY

hard widget
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I see

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Thats probably why i didnt like it

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Imma make a windwalker, trust in the process. Get in before the FOMO hits

pliant jackal
hard widget
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Im still mad at survival for shadowlands

pliant jackal
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the bombs were pretty fun

open prairie
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i got the meme weapon

ionic bone
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It's fine guys, we just swap to arms

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acoustic yoke
open prairie
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befouler’s syringe

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acoustic yoke
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I assumed it was the tree trunk

open prairie
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this thing is bin right

ionic bone
oblique trail
hard widget
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Hehe

oblique trail
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It's good at pure ST but otherwise bad

pale lava
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arms holy shit keks

open prairie
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Yeah thats what i figured

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since this mf has no str

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on it

hard widget
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šŸ™‚

open prairie
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its good for shit char since

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weapon ilvl

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but yeah long term

ionic bone
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since tomorrow fury is rip anyway

open prairie
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what changes tomorrow

hard widget
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Why specifically tomorrow?

ionic bone
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5 cap ?

hard widget
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OMG NERFS COMING?!

ionic bone
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instead of 8

hard widget
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Thats not tomorrow

ionic bone
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oh it's next week ?

hard widget
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No

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11.0.5

ionic bone
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or is it already in the game šŸ˜„

pale lava
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it's 2 months away probably

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maybe?

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ionic bone
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oh for the anniversary

fickle cedar
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hopefully never once they check logs keks

acoustic yoke
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Surely the 11.0.5 nerf also includes good compensation changes

pale lava
acoustic yoke
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That can't be the only lines we get keks

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I want to be able to use capstones blizz pls

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hardy shuttle
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All of you forgetting about the spear icon buff smh

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chrome ether
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why are the everforged vambraced the 2nd craft we should make after weapon? they seem pretty ordinary

ionic bone
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kinda funny how first week fury was number 1 dps in the raid and now its near the bottom and fire replaced it XD

open prairie
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in offhand

south seal
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fury was mid to begin with it's just that the raid is designed good for fury

verbal rivet
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Fire mage isn’t a real spec….

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wtf is this

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spare steppe
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Fire mages are doing fine after buffs. Living bomb is still shit though

ionic plaza
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wasnt fire dead last and then they buffed to literal first?

restive pewter
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double on use better than transmitter+sacbrood?

verbal rivet
ionic bone
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sacbrood is kinda bad, no

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sims lower than anything

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south seal
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sac is wis

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ionic bone
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I've made a sim with all trinkets in the game and it sims pretty bad

distant isle
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So does fury still have a place or should I focus on arms…

ionic plaza
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Sacbrood is busted bro gives haste, gives more str than static trinkets, and does damage

acoustic yoke
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I didn't get pity given a sac yesterday for me to hear Sac slander

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In context ofc

oblique trail
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And you can only get 626 max so ye

open prairie
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Fair

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dusty bluff
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hey guys how bad is this?

open prairie
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no i was asking him about

dusty bluff
open prairie
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the meme delve weapon

hard widget
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Its not much to go on

ionic bone
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your ilvl is pretty damn bad, yea

open prairie
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mog is bad

ionic bone
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panda is bad

hard widget
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The transmog isnt too great either ye

restive pewter
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panda bis tho

ionic bone
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it's female

oblique trail
ionic bone
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make it male and it will be good

dusty bluff
acoustic yoke
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Panda is cheeks

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Not night elf smh

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oblique trail
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Mate

ruby yew
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Hey guys, relatively new to the discord. Do you guys currently sim your Fury as Patchwerk or Multitarget? Just curious

dusty bluff
oblique trail
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We were talking about Befoulers Syringe

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Not Sacbrood

hard widget
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Oh

ionic bone
open prairie
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secret 639 delve gear

ionic bone
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it's not day 1 of expansion

open prairie
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from tier 12

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clearly

dusty bluff
hard widget
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If u really want to know, sim ur char and see how close u get

restive pewter
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u could sim your st dps

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^

ionic bone
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Spam your 8 delves, do the raid, craft pvp 610s

restive pewter
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yeah what he said

ionic bone
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etc

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Just don't try to gear in m+, waste of time

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ionic bone
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unless for weekly vault ofc

dusty bluff
restive pewter
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^

ionic bone
hard widget
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Like you said, play ur own key xd

ionic bone
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I'm only 617 trying to spam 9s for trinkets and yea.. 1 out of 20 ques is a invite

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with 2450 io

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restive pewter
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617 šŸ¤

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(granted mine is in bags and im only 616 equipped)

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2 weeks without seeing the broodtwister hero ring

ionic bone
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true 617

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XD

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with the shitties trinkets

pliant jackal
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oof 613 trinks

mossy fox
hard widget
restive pewter
hard widget
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Crit be real tho, u had 3 warriors in there

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I wonder where those came from šŸ¤”

pliant jackal
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fraudcake

ionic bone
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kekw

mossy fox
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wdym those definitely weren't stream helpers

neat coral
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Okay myth track shoulders i can catalyse next week or 6/6 wings of shattered sorrow?

mossy fox
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warrior players just really wanted to join my potato alt dk key

neat coral
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I have simmed both and it's a .2% diff, the myth track will be better when fully upgraded

hard widget
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Hehe

ionic bone
mossy fox
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but nah it was nice to get free help on the dk

hard widget
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To be fair, as a meta class u might actually get away with it

mossy fox
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got some nice practice in too

hard widget
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Yeah i saw u blasting

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It actually looked like u had fun, which is something warrior lacks

summer quail
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the crazy part, if fdk gets nerfed unholy is still insane

ionic bone
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when was unholy not insane tho

pliant jackal
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I feel like even if fdk gets nerfed it will still be strong

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summer quail
ionic bone
summer quail
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like the top dps dk player, plays unholy in several keys

mossy fox
hard widget
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When can i pre order coaching crit?

mossy fox
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i like the breath minigame

hard widget
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My dk is lvl 78 now

mossy fox
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even if i frost striked like an idiot during breath sometimes keks keks

mossy fox
hard widget
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Just disable action tracker, nobody will know

hard widget
mossy fox
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seriously missing charge and leap though

hard widget
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Dk’s movement is kinda bad ye

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I’ve been leveling as bdk and never have deaths advance because i use it as movement speed increase kekw

meager void
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🦽

mossy fox
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same

ionic bone
feral pine
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You guys do mechanics in raid?

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šŸ’€šŸ’€

ionic bone
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at least on queen u have to šŸ˜„

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dk's are chilling

willow cradle
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@restive peak Just read your thread on GD, it's very well put. Hopefully someone at Blizzard reads and understands it lol

mossy fox
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dks always make sure to hit you with the "what pull/push/mechanic?" whenever they can deaths advance something

eager thorn
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is there any way to reset cds at zekvir or do you really have to wait for them every pull

hard widget
willow cradle
mossy fox
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oh

ionic bone
hard widget
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Instead of ā€œjoel kom skypeā€ its now ā€œLinc come gdā€ keks

willow cradle
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Maybe time to update us now that the race ended? The new rankings are out, with fury dropping a massive 20 spots and being dead last, below aug by a large margin, on damage to bosses. Thank god you guys designed heroic bosses to die to burst AOE, then designed fury around burst AOE, then overreacted with a double nerf when we told you it was d...

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for any interested

teal pine
feral pine
summer quail
young swan
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good duel

hard widget
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Go deathknight

teal pine
feral pine
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I see..

hard widget
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Poor bm hunters

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They should make their rotation more simple

feral pine
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Remove barber shot

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And make it pet ability

willow cradle
# hard widget This is gold

There is a lot of uninformed opinions unfortunately, but a couple folks were fact checking so hopefully it gets enough positive traction.

hard widget
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I cant do stuff on NA forums

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Otherwise i’d join the movement

river viper
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Make a trial character and then I think it lets you

feral pine
rotund ginkgo
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soc lose

hard widget
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@mossy fox upset part 3?

rotund ginkgo
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if anyone tells u u need big comps

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just run double shammy double warr fdk

hard widget
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Hopefully this week with more gear

final birch
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I'm not timing any 12's because I don't fucking care and I havent bothered to do a key above 10

dire vigil
lament hinge
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11 siege last boss was a nightmare

dire vigil
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Also I don’t understand the whole ā€œfury is easy schtickā€ it would be so easy to face roll and have crap enrage uptime and we are by far the highest APM spec. Arthritis is the real endgame boss.

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Try havoc. I can completely fuck my rotation and as long as I land my eye beams and enpowered blade dances I do big dam

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Dear Blizz, I wake up screaming in pain every night from the arthritis, please buff fury.

sick raft
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Myth track Wild Hammer or Hero Sureki neck here right...?

rotund ginkgo
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the highest apm spec

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anymore

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by quite a lot

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if u havent noticed how slow fury feels rn

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ur smoking something

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we're down from like 84apm to 67-68

rotund ginkgo
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not saying we're a braindead class, but its not HARD to be a mediocre fury player

meager void
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fr how are you guys handling trinket desync with the affix?

dire vigil
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The game moves too fast for me because of the extreme pain

covert void
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never hear it said for them generally

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but warrior always brainded

summer quail
dire vigil
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With enough practice, most classes become very 2nd nature

summer quail
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Like even if a class is "easy" majority of players don't get orange logs, if you get orange logs you're very good

eager thorn
dire vigil
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I have my rotation down perfectly. Avatar-Charge-bloodthirst-Recklessness-slam-bladestorm. Then normal rotation

eager thorn
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idk what s3/4 was like

rotund ginkgo
dire vigil
rotund ginkgo
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my ret friend literally says "all my keybinds are divine storm"

dire vigil
rotund ginkgo
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around 84 ish

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vs current 68

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aberrus was incredibly fast, hella fun

modest condor
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fury has never had 80+ apm

rotund ginkgo
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ran AM, had haste and unbrindled ferocity wasnt fucking bugged

tidal kindle
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It does if you count HnS procs as apm

rotund ginkgo
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fury literally had 80 apm in s2

tidal kindle
rotund ginkgo
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on simclogs

dusty bluff
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Armory communication failure why do i keep getting this?

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on sim

rotund ginkgo
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i dont think simulationcraft counted hns as apm

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i know warcraftlogs did

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as CPM

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was funny having 190 cpm on sarkareth KEKW

dusty bluff
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why does raidbots keep saying this

modest condor
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you can go to simcraft website and look at apm of previous tiers

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highest we've had was 74 or something

rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
modest condor
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this is s4, so with s2 tierset

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73 apm

rotund ginkgo
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the page doesnt load

opaque falcon
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Blizzard never let fury shine

rotund ginkgo
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but in s4 didnt most people play s4+s3?

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check s2

modest condor
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75 apm

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and no, most people didnt play s3+4, that was in prepatch

rotund ginkgo
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i played it in s4 im pretty sure

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i could be wrong

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cuz i had a month off

modest condor
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idk what you played, but pretty much nobody played s3+4 in s4

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that was only a prepatch thing

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the only time i've been close to 80 apm on fury was in s4 of bfa

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managed to hit 79 on the dog in nyalotha

rotund ginkgo
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guess i was wrong :3

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still, fury currently is way slower than it was

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so the argument saying we're high apm class isnt true anymore

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in response to what hoaraloux said

modest condor
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i mean we're still one of the higher ones

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but yeah it's low compared to in the past

rotund ginkgo
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68 feels middle of the pack to me

twilit narwhal
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quick question, I remember that I could upgrade items from Hero track into Myth track using the catalist when they were upgraded enough to be on the Myth track, is that still possible or I'm bugging?

rotund ginkgo
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defo not the slowest

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obv

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isnt deeva like fucking

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rotund ginkgo
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if an item is hero track its hero track

twilit narwhal
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I swear I got some items upgraded from hero to myth when I was DH

modest condor
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being 9th out of like 40 specs isnt really middle of the pack

twilit narwhal
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they were maxed out

modest condor
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no that was never a thing

rotund ginkgo
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sure but how many of those 40 specs are actually played/a big portion of players?

modest condor
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i mean, all of them?

rotund ginkgo
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deva evokers are a big portion of players?

modest condor
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šŸ™„

rotund ginkgo
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:3

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DAMN FROST DEATHBRINGER AT 51APM?

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feels higher

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probably cuz breath brings it down whenever u click it

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its kinda funny all tanks haev way higher apm

fathom remnant
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Guys are sevres back soon or in 2hrs

still basin
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Let me get this straight, Fury got nerfed twice cause Raid Add Timings did fit us perfectly and Blizzard thought we're doing too much damage for our niche and now my Enhance and Ret both with 619 Weapons and 614 Overall outdps my Fury in 10's although Fury is 623 with 2x 636 Weapons and Trinkets ( Sac + Skarmorak )

fluid cedar
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anyone found any trinks that over or under perform according to their sims?

rotund ginkgo
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sounds about right

indigo arch
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Correct, but don't worry, all of fury warriors utility will keep fury relevant!

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Happy anniversary!

still basin
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._.

indigo arch
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Imagine tuning around df prepatch and heroic week

red berry
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tbf if fury stayed the same as it was since prepatch

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it would be pretty fucking gross

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something did have to give where that's concerned

indigo arch
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I agree delete fury

red berry
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lmao

strange dove
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on brood do i blow all my cds like odins on pull, or wait for first add group like greeder

buoyant salmon
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use 45 seconds on pull, itll be back up for adds anyways

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use them immediately

strange dove
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ok ty

buoyant salmon
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if youre using am also use reck on pull

compact flint
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There a way to track the missions from Transmitter?

weary sail
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Is it just me or its harder to get Myth track gear this season compared to DF

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Timing a 10s feels way harder than timing a 15s in DF

still basin
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10's are old 20's

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And most of them are fine mo for Weekly Stuff

orchid moth
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is there a haste % that we switch to powerful enrage?

weary sail
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Maybe the interrupt / stops changes influences it too

eager thorn
compact flint
eager thorn
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np

pearl sequoia
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Bis helm atleast

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no nutsacs to be found

fossil rose
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u can spellblock the tidal surge from siege, the wave that comes from 2 different directions?

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oh block not reflect

pearl sequoia
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Pretty sure you have to do it before it even starts its cast time or something goofy like that

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So a gamble

summer quail
inner zinc
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does shattering throw work on the affix and is it even worth getting?

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either that or wrecking throw?

summer quail
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nahh, they just do damage to it. doesn't kill the affix

inner zinc
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it doesnt break the shield?

sullen dove
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not instantly

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its probably a lot of damage on the shield

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for a global

summer quail
sullen dove
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but its also just 1 global

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and -1 talent point

inner zinc
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2 talents actually

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since you need to make your way to it

sullen dove
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perhaps if u needa path yea

hollow geyser
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hey all wowhead shows our crafted wrists and weapon with vers/mast over haste/mastery. is this correct?

sullen dove
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prolly does assuming we get "enough" haste from all the other pieces and like that heavy haste very rare neck from sikran is nutty

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either way small stat differences like that are almost never catastrophically significant with whichever you choose

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can sim whatevers the highest and if you feel ok with spending the gold to change it later up to you

hollow geyser
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ok that wass my followup question, u can change it right

sullen dove
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doesnt really matter whether u go haste or verse

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yea recrafting

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it'll cost gold on mats and some acuity

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but its not permanent once u made it

hollow geyser
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ok cool ill go haste/mastery for now. thanks!

dire vigil
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I have 606 Sac and heroic transmitter, should I take myth shoulders or go with the heroic trinket?

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Not an amazing vault but 2 very useful items

sullen dove
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yea i mean assuming you dont do a ton of mythic bosses, while youll eventually get another shoulder its probably a more "long term" upgrade to get that instead of trinket, seeing as youve done 8 10s too for vault youll prolly get that every week so youll probably either get some good myth track trinkets from later weeks or mandate could pop up again on heroic slots

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could also just rip a mandate from natty raid kill

eager thorn
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well it depends if you actually want that trinket

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its not bis

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and hero sac is kinda easy to get

sullen dove
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like heroic mandate is like tied for bis trinket but it is "replaceable" i would say

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psure its same as sacbrood single target

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just less good in m+ i think

dire vigil
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We're gonna be progging mythic. Goal is CE. I just don't know if being behind a week on myth gear is worth not just having 626 sac + 626 transmitter

summer quail
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I would just take those shoulders. no thinking about it

eager thorn
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ye its .28% dps increase from sacbrood in st

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not enough for me to run 2 on use

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personally

hardy cargo
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guys start of tier we had 3 dps warrs in the guild and the other 2 have officially as of now rerolled off sadge

dire vigil
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ok, shoulders we vibe. Thanks

eager thorn
dire vigil
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I like myth track pieces

fervent yoke
dusty cove
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are the latest round of nerfs in today?

summer quail
dusty cove
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fair

dusty cove
eager thorn
verbal rivet
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There’s a slight difference

sullen dove
fervent yoke
fossil rose
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is there a spell reflectg spreadsheet like how prot has spellblock spreadsheet

smoky vale
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its in the same sheet

fossil rose
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oh

kindred swallow
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ive been playing fury warrior only since wrath and i refuse to change lol

fossil rose
fervent yoke
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How tf is aug beating us that's wild

fossil rose
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so putrid water works for fury using spell reflect?

kindred swallow
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i try to play other classes but my brain makes me go back to zug zugYoure

quartz tulip
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who out here playing with they worm

verbal rivet
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Mid fury war struggling in keys or easily push keys as Prot. It feels bad.

kindred swallow
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Oh and not useless i guess

fervent yoke
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I was thinking about frost but breath windows seemed too big brained, is it hard to play this xpac?

verbal rivet
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The hardest part of breath windows is doing nothing when you need to

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Not even exaggerating

kindred swallow
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Its one of the easiest melees as far as i know, cant tell you much about breath build though i play the other one since im not doing high keys

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I dont think not playing breath is that big of a dps loss anyways

pearl sequoia
verbal rivet
summer quail
verbal rivet
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There is a breakpoint where you have to be able to make decent breath windows to pump

pearl sequoia
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im good g

kindred swallow
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Eh yeah i guess you are right you will be dealing alot more with breath if you can keep it running long enough

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But i feel like shatering is much more stable cuz first i dont trust myself with breath lol and second i dont trust the groups i would be running breath with

verbal rivet
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That’s how the RWF frost dks are doing so much, absolutely insane breath uptime

dusty cove
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so, will they leave fury alone now? ...

verbal rivet
upbeat plume
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yes theyve finished there goal lol

verbal rivet
dusty cove
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great... with this nerfs coming, will arms be better for M+?

summer quail
verbal rivet
summer quail
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world rank 1 fdk on brood has 48% uptime and has 5 PI's. for the other rankings 20 something percent is way more common

edgy widget
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we got the big queen trinky!

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gonna miss my little shadow knife

kindred swallow
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I get 20 to 25sec breath max on dummies lol

verbal rivet
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At least someone is happy today lmao

verbal rivet
edgy widget
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it's ok, my vault was da poop

kindred swallow
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But again been playing fury all my life ehat do i know

upbeat plume
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I got the grim batol weapon in my mythtrack slot

summer quail
upbeat plume
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so Im super happy lol

verbal rivet
kindred swallow
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Charge-bladestorm-release spirit

fervent dune
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so I'm a little new to fury warrior, do you prioritize execute over rampage or no?

modest condor
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only if you have 3 stacks of marked for execution or ashen juggernaut is about to fall off

fervent dune
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I see

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thank you

dusty cove
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Is fury cooked in M+ now too?

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or when the nerfs come

summer quail
buoyant salmon
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they are fine now

verbal rivet
clever path
dusty cove
summer quail
inner zinc
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i tried wrecking throw just to get a feel for it in a +9 and i find its kinda lame that an ability meant to break shield would feel dogshit against a shield

kindred swallow
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Just revert fury warrior to legion time change my mind

verbal rivet
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You aren’t matching someone who’s been playing only that, since legion.

summer quail
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didn't say anything about matching. 10 seconds off is a big difference in duration

verbal rivet
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Still couldn’t do it.

summer quail
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still think i could, but agree to disagree. this discussion is going nowhere

verbal rivet
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If you think you can, go raid CE as FDK

summer quail
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I might in the future, if they somehow royally fuck up warrior

verbal rivet
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Aight

teal pine
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i mean

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dont need to stroke breath uptime that hard

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breath really isnt that hard

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its overwhelming at first

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but its literally just

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press oblit

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and then rng how long it lasts

summer quail
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oblit and horn of winter

modest condor
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protip: dont join a weekly no leavers necrotic wake

eager thorn
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funnily enough the only weekly no leaver ive completed is a nw

olive wraith
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Fool that’s signing up for 200 deaths

eager thorn
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ppl really sign up for a no leave group then leave after like 2 wipes

modest condor
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it was only about 70

kindred swallow
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Now that you talked about it i played trough the whole shadowlands and i dont think i have seen the mount from nw drop once

modest condor
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ive seen it drop once

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and another time in tww during m0 week

kindred swallow
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I have a weird kind of luck i either get a mount on the first try of something or farm for it and never getting it

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I got the azure drake, mollie and the dream winter nightsaber on the first try

modest condor
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i got rivendare's deathcharger on my first "try"

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as in i was lvling and it dropped for me

kindred swallow
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And i have been farming the antorian charhounds since it came out and never seen it drop

modest condor
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we even had 2 of them drop in that run

steel shadow
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Yall crafted the bracers already right?

eager thorn
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wep + bracers for me

modest condor
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i crafted cloak, but bracers is probably a better idea if you're raiding

olive wraith
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My bracers have a socket so I’ll probably do cloak

mellow smelt
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is there a fix for tauren/hm tauren missing sound effects on fury?

rotund ginkgo
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choco live

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floorpov

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good shit

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@buoyant salmon CAN I GET SOME CLEAVE MAYHAPS

buoyant salmon
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heal absorb smoge

kindred swallow
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I find it so weird that on cds windows you are just suposed to press everything and fuck it

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Rage capped for like 5 secs? Who cares lol

rotund ginkgo
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i miss s2 c:

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@buoyant salmon why ur weps so small what is this

buoyant salmon
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light sabers bud

clever path
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I want season 3 again. Felt so good to smash without making my wrists die

rotund ginkgo
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link em

buoyant salmon
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on like graphics 5 bc i lag on higher ones in raid

rotund ginkgo
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where u get it from

sudden tusk
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quest from the gnome starting aera

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very light sabre

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is the item

buoyant salmon
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yeah the 2h one is gnome

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and the 1h one is from bc dungeons

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slave pen iirc

rotund ginkgo
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aint no way ur SMFing though

rotund ginkgo
buoyant salmon
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yeah the 1h one is spellfire longsword

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its int only though

sudden tusk
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yeah its a quest in their starting zone

buoyant salmon
acoustic zephyr
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is gear a rang launcher any good now?

rotund ginkgo
feral ivy
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anyone know why the fuck reck, avatar and other cd's not getting reset when we reset the bosses?

main cave
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its probably something like CDs >= 3m

sullen dove
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its 2min cds and up

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that get reset

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i think every time

feral ivy
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that sucks for when u wanna do talent changes

rotund ginkgo
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yippee

rigid rain
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do we pop Treacherous Transmitter on prepull? (i just got it)

rotund ginkgo
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yes

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3-4s before u blast cds

rigid rain
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so on prepull and on 3-4s before cds?

sullen dove
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u can use it as early as like 10 sec on prepull

rotund ginkgo
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yeah

sullen dove
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give u a chance to see what it is

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prep whatever job it wants u to do

rotund ginkgo
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then u just do it

sullen dove
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just slightly annoying if its a ball that like moves somewhere

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but like can pre do some jumps or pad stacks

rotund ginkgo
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JUMP 3 TIMES

acoustic zephyr
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does top end damage matter?

sullen dove
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what

acoustic zephyr
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on weapons. wild hammer has way lower top end than my surgical heartstopper for some reason

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but same dps

sullen dove
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oh damage ranges

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no

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they're all the same

acoustic zephyr
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does it matter which is mainhand

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gotcha

sullen dove
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ilvl only thing that matters

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mainhand should be highest ilvl

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thats about it

acoustic zephyr
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cool thanks

wicked dew
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I hate how much threat we generate lmfao

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wish I had a MD or something

acoustic zephyr
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in my experience its only an issue if the tank doesnt press buttons

steel geyser
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quick question anyone know how much duskthread lining gives at 636 ilvl?

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of vers

calm island
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maybe wowhead posting this makes them re-evaluate 🤔

main cave
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thats a 3% nerf again for posting that

odd agate
coral fiber
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Is the Ovi'Nax trinket worth? Not moving as a melee sounds painful

steel geyser
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anyone have duskthread lining? and know the # value on the vers at 636?

tidal kindle
dusty bluff
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how much dps bump is 4 set buff instead of 2 for fury?

frank dawn
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like half a percent lol

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4pc is garbage

eager thorn
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should be like 1% no?

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idk how much nerfs affect it but before them 2pc was like 1% and 4pc 2.1% or smth

dusty bluff
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i see thanks

olive wraith
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is void pactstone any good

lean valley
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How do i use mad queens in raid

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i am confused

sullen dove
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you uh

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use it

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if there is a situation where there are adds to get cdr

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can use it to snipe

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but also sniping is rly fuckin annoying

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cuz it has to be the exact killing blow

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so u can gamble for it to crit or just sned it when an add has less than like 5mil health and itll work

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feel like there should be like a 1-2 sec debuff on it tho

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if used on 10mil hp mob thats gonna die to damage anyway but if it doesnt crit ur just fucked

lean valley
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So, not worth using

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cool

sullen dove
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just 2 min cd big hit of damage

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maybe u crit and pog out maybe u dont

humble cape
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are they joking with this weeks affix lmao

sullen dove
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still one of the best trinks

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just the cdr use case is unreliable and dumb

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so sniping is like more annoying

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but just st boss dam trink its nice

pulsar prawn
young swan
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2xOn-use cranks ovinax so fucking hard lmfao

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jesus christ

sullen dove
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padding filth

young swan
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they need to die

sullen dove
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go am thane

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no balls

young swan
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nah

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dont like thane

sullen dove
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am i allowed to have role yet

buoyant salmon
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i did it at the start of our pulls but then i got a good sack

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but now im pad extrodinaire

young swan
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i will be getting r1 if we kill tonight

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assuming i dont die

buoyant salmon
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ill gap u buid

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what u pushin

sullen dove
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aired

sudden tusk
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sword what is new pfp

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is that thresh

sullen dove
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no

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(idk who that is)

modest condor
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gloves and chest both big upgrades

sullen dove
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chest more stats chatting

sullen dove
pulsar prawn
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last week gloves.. and this week ermmmm

sullen dove
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glover boy

cedar lagoon
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help xDDD

lament hinge
strong pilot
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4 of my slots are raid tier pieces lmao

vivid lagoon
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How the heck is heroic palace easier than mythic+ Jesus

vivid lagoon
strong pilot
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craziest queue, was at 300 now up to 500