fury

[south kayak]

last week

[eternal sundial]

Enha is funny

[south kayak]

there were bugs that caused that too

lol

[restive peak]

Truly enhance and outlaw are the "harder" specs in the game, this doesn't mean they're super hard

But they are objectively harder than basically every other spec

[bitter palm]

id argue shadowdust sub is harder to play optimally

[south kayak]

Why is outlaw hard?

it seems fine to me

[olive wraith]

The target cap nerfs are with 11.0.5

[restive peak]

Outlaw is 1 of those not hard to play, but truly mastering it and the timings is very hard

[keen kindle]

ya know if I actually USED a 12 button mouse I'd probally buy it

[red berry]

idk even if a class is easy there’s still always going to a set amount of players who are not good in spite of perceived relative difficulty

[south kayak]

you're right

[eternal sundial]

I picked up arcane on rasz prog and was turbo fine

[steel void]

is fury just a nightmare to get invited to mythic +?

[wet wraith]

outlaw has janky ass systems that take a good bit of experience to get perfect

[eternal sundial]

Difficulty is fake

[restive peak]

Like outlaw consistently has 1 of the highest skill gaps from #1 rank to #25 rank, ya know?

[eternal sundial]

Yesnt

[olive wraith]

Dps is

[restive peak]

Bro I've been gearing my mage and kepy hearing the arcane is so hard shit

I learned it in about 25mins

[bitter palm]

exactly

[south kayak]

lmao

[red berry]

arcane is very simple

[eternal sundial]

It's learn 2 sequences

[south kayak]

arcane is easy

[buoyant salmon]

the best outlaw rogues gap regular outlaw rogues by a significant margin

[steel void]

so every dps has this problem with not getting invite?

[south kayak]

you learn sequences

[restive peak]

Exactly

But mages act like they're doing calculas

It's so funny

[subtle cypress]

This game caters to ranged you just need to not be melee

[south kayak]

it's always the same rotation

[dim pecan]

I watched Tarisant break down Arcane, with the assistance of a WA made by another mage in his guild Forgy

[south kayak]

for arcane

[buoyant salmon]

ppl saying fire is hard is insnae

[weary sail]

What makes enhance and outlaw so hard?

[eternal sundial]

So do arms warriors ironically

[rose bay]

no spec is hard, just takes a little practice, any time a spec is proclamed difficult by the comunity blizzard guts it

[tender sky]

Lighty uppy buttons are a meme, but figuring out dynamic priorities is harder than a more scripted spec

[dim pecan]

Kinda wish all specs had something like that, it was great

[olive wraith]

Pretty much. Maybe not Aug but generally yes

[restive peak]

It's not "hard", it's just more complicated than the other specs

[buoyant salmon]

you had 1 maintenance buff (and blaster master but) thats a fake maintenance buff

[restive peak]

No spec is really hard

[eternal sundial]

Only bad mages and ppl who dont play it call it hard

[restive peak]

Bro fire is braindead, it's super fun because it's so braindead

[olive wraith]

Fire mage also seems incredibly mobile for a caster

[rotund ginkgo]

Finally I can bind heroic throw

[eternal sundial]

Fire is BM hunter

[median dust]

Dont think enhance is hard. It's just annoying that it's like playing simon says

[weary sail]

I heard arcane is hard to play

[olive wraith]

You spam 2 instant spells to make your big cast an instant spell

[eternal sundial]

You heard wrong

[south kayak]

lmao

[weary sail]

What would you say is the most complicated / difficult specs to play rn?

[eternal sundial]

Tbf fire in S2 at a r1 log level was spicy

[dim pecan]

most specs, the difficult part is when you have the overlapping priorities at certain moments

[eternal sundial]

But that doesnt matter for most

[weary sail]

It used to be Feral i think

[keen kindle]

omfg no

[dim pecan]

some specs have more of those moments than others, or more things vying for priority

[rotund ginkgo]

My friend was top 10 all stars fire mage s2

[eternal sundial]

Doesnt matter, difficulty lies in the content you play

[fervent yoke]

I’m looking for the easiest specs to play tbh

[rotund ginkgo]

Lul

[eternal sundial]

That's rlly good

Tier was cringe

[south kayak]

At least looks like your thread is gaining some traction @restive peak

[buoyant salmon]

your friend is good why cant you have good takes

[median dust]

Survival Hunter and Paladin

[fervent yoke]

I don’t wanna big brain my rota I’m here to zug

[weary sail]

Link the thread?

[vocal siren]

someone ping me when servers go live pls

[rotund ginkgo]

Cuz I can't read

[south kayak]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning/1973855

[static rock]

wait, so they see us doing this shit in both raid and mythic+, and still nerf us later on?

[fervent yoke]

Wait is surv actually easy? Is it any good?

[weary sail]

Yea no spamming kill command on BM is def way easier than some other specs

[south kayak]

it's fine

[gaunt sonnet]

cope is the nerfs get reverted before 11.0.5 releases

[dim pecan]

I lost track of some of the changes towards the end, but it was pretty fun to play for most of beta

[fervent yoke]

Hmmm

[south kayak]

Either they revert that or buff our sustain to compensate or im gonezo

[fervent yoke]

Don’t know if I wanna take the gamble on surv

I’m trying to avoid not getting m plus invites

[weary sail]

Even im not coping that hard

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think they will be reverted i think there will be compensation in some way

[weary sail]

If god bless us we wont get nerf anymore

[south kayak]

change spec on 10 countdown inside m+ lmao

[forest owl]

my guild BM hates me talking about fury nerfs..somehow xD

[olive wraith]

I don’t want sustain aoe

[dim pecan]

aside from playing a tank, a healer, or one of a handful of "meta" classes, not sure what you can do

[fervent yoke]

Lmao

[olive wraith]

I don’t want another s2 DF

[steep lynx]

fury about to wheel chair spec the rest of this season plus season 2 u heard it here first

[keen forum]

idk whats coping harder, that they will revert nerfs or that they'll compensate fury lol

[clever path]

Outlaw becomes really easy when you understand the basis of the gameplay ; small rotation, few CD's (talking about HO build tho)

[steep lynx]

they legit have no problem having us be dog shit

[heavy galleon]

don't touch FDK, Mage, Ret Pal, but NERF FURY WARRIOR PLZZZZZZZZZZZ

[restive peak]

Everyone go post in my thread if you truly care

Push it to the top, it's not just about fury

[fervent yoke]

Can we also get 20yd range on all melee abilities with a butt load of utility and throw in a bloodlust then fury is good to go

[south kayak]

Just buff the tier set and i'll be fine for now lol

[olive wraith]

Bring back anni and make it uncapped cleave

[restive peak]

It's about the massive discrepancy on multiple classes/specs, and it's important

[south kayak]

is fury literally the worst tier set?

[fervent yoke]

Link it

[south kayak]

it has to be

[fervent yoke]

I’d say

[south kayak]

they buffed all the shitty tier sets

but didn't buff fury

what's up with taht?

[olive wraith]

I think fury is def down at the bottom of tier

[south kayak]

like this is definitely someone in blizzard maliciously nerfing fury

has to be

[restive peak]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning/1973855/27 @fervent yoke

[velvet obsidian]

Fury tier set

[fervent yoke]

I just don’t get how you have a melee class like ret go live and still nerf fury

[buoyant salmon]

box you are schizoposting

[south kayak]

Nah it's 100% true

[buoyant salmon]

fury was insanely good

[tribal flint]

I think fury has a legit hater on the dev team.

[heavy galleon]

Blizzard have just the worst dev ever, we should play another game

[restive peak]

Fury needed the OF+BS nerf, but we did not need the 3%, and we also DID need a tier set change

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758086817730920529/1273098382461636689/1272902776497639475-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

playing fury optimally is harder than most specs with the st build

[weary sail]

We dont need that much of a nerfs when FDK exists lol

[restive peak]

Well all specs have nuance we don't even understand, but yes, fury has it's nuances and skill ceiling as well

[weary sail]

If anything then can shift the damage from aoe burst to aoe sustain / single target

[sudden tusk]

fuck it

nerf us more

[tender sky]

Fury will only get outscaled further

[weary sail]

But straight up nerfing everything is stupid

[sudden tusk]

put us in the dirt

[tribal flint]

Must be nice to top meters and not be able to facetank
Mobs every other pull

[tender sky]

We are on the downtrend

[velvet obsidian]

Our AoE burst needed the nerfs, but they needed to buff our sustained damage in compensation as it's dog water. But nope, just nerfing the one thing we do well over and over. Its frustrating

[static rock]

Had a friend tell me that they nerf based on the middle of the pack for how classes are doing, which sounds like the most idiotic way of doing anything

[dim pecan]

Im not a theorycrafter, but it seems like it would be difficult to reduce our burst aoe without also impacting our ST right

[heavy galleon]

In what story you can want nerf fury warrior and don't touch FDK ? Just tell me

[dim pecan]

or is there some obvious thing they could have done instead

[remote veldt]

Impossible to tag a key as warrior w 618 ilvl and 2K4 when the only way to get rio is just to do 10 fuck blizzard this is impossible to play like S4 of dragonflight

[weary sail]

You nerf the burst aoe skill and you buff the single target skill. Not that hard.

[dim pecan]

those are?

[humble plover]

Buff our st damage abilities and tune meat cleaver accordingly. Not that hard really

[weary sail]

Odyn fury

Roar

Bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Keys for dps are competitive

[heavy galleon]

I hate them for real

[bitter palm]

i mean

[weary sail]

Then buff our single target

[bitter palm]

fury has too many aoe buttons

odyns roar bladestorm

[calm quartz]

Make WW do damage

[velvet obsidian]

Also the CB/RB>Rampage/execute priority needs a look at. Actively letting SD procs wither away in ST feels so bad.

[steep lynx]

and outside of those buttons we are actually trash

[heavy dock]

Is there a new nerf again?

[south kayak]

Not hard if you're good at your job, unlike whoever tunes

[static rock]

only thing we have going for us is instant aoe burst

[heavy dock]

Or the target cap

[bitter palm]

yes because u send all ur damage in 3 globals

[static rock]

it's in the .5 patch

[remote veldt]

I know it perfectly but now it's not about DPS, that was easy to tag 26 and 27 in the S3 of DF even without fyr'alath but now i'm just not able to do a 10 with one and all 9 in 3 hours

[regal aurora]

Damn bro this channel is rage capped for sure

[bitter palm]

because all of ur damage comes from those 3 spells

(1)

[olive wraith]

Execute hasn’t been high prio for a long time

[bitter palm]

(bladestorm)

[heavy dock]

Ye i mean outside of that

[regal aurora]

I feel validated. It really does feel like Blizz hates us :/

[humble plover]

God I hate the just buff execute argument. Nah I don't want to wait till the last 30% to unlock barely more DPS.

[velvet obsidian]

It should be. Flat out. And take away the damn castle time on it as well, why is it delayed?

[south kayak]

Anyone who has a brain in his head figured out that Fury wouldn't be as good later on with everoyne's tier set being better

[olive wraith]

Why should it be?

[south kayak]

and adds dying faster later on

except who ever does the tuning

that's just straight up bad job

[weary sail]

Not blizzard

[south kayak]

It doesn't make any sense

[heavy galleon]

I'm tired about Blizzard, we can't trust them, they suxx since 6 years

[south kayak]

how did that person get the job

[olive wraith]

is our execute

[dim pecan]

I would guess they probably support multiple specs and classes

[velvet obsidian]

It's an ability that we aren't allowed to cast for 65%/80% of the fight. Unlocking it should be rewarding.

[polar narwhal]

You are awarded by a lowered Bladestorm cooldown.

That is its purpose.

[olive wraith]

Execute is arms niche

[median dust]

Give me 6 stacks of cleave with whirlwind and lower resource cost and we can call it even Blizzard. 🙂

[velvet obsidian]

Then why do we have it?

[weary sail]

Execute is so mid for fury

[olive wraith]

As a filler

[low folio]

dont worry guys

[olive wraith]

Gain rage

[burnt kelp]

its also prot warrior's niche

it also was fury's niche for most of its existence

[heavy galleon]

or if they nerf bladestorm and TR, just delete the cap target of our cleave

[hard widget]

DID I HEAR MORE NERFS?!

[bitter palm]

@restive peak

[low folio]

in season 2, they will give us a good tier set and also nerf us to compensate for having actual tier

[bitter palm]

thoughts on this reply

HAS to be troll

[velvet obsidian]

It's a filler if literally nothing is there. Filler would even be fine if the thing we are building rage to didn't hit like overcooked pasta

[bitter palm]

surely

[heavy galleon]

why are we the only cap target spec outburst ?

[polar narwhal]

We aren't.

[keen forum]

bc we are tuned by chatgpt not humans with brains or nuance

[burnt kelp]

I mean it got compensated in the same patch it was nerfed, it's technically not wrong to say the buffs didn't make up for the witch doctor nerf

[bitter palm]

yeah bro they are only #3 best

[olive wraith]

Does outlaw still get to hit 8

[humble plover]

Draenei pally player. Opinion worthless

[bitter palm]

in the raid

[weary sail]

Yes

[bitter palm]

and one of the best in m+

[burnt kelp]

I mean yeah they are strill bonkers

[bitter palm]

until they start dying

[burnt kelp]

but the post is technically correct

[bitter palm]

🤓

yeah they were only doing

1.7mil

on st

[restive peak]

Further showing people literally cannot read

[bitter palm]

not deserved!

[dim pecan]

I would ask if you would rather have stronger ST or stronger aoe, but some specs just get both, lol

[restive peak]

They were nerfed and received a compensatory buff

[south kayak]

There has to be one person specifically tuning fury

[forest owl]

can i comment on a US forum post if im in EU?

[bitter palm]

they didnt need the buff

[south kayak]

because everyone else is getting decent tuning

[burnt kelp]

but it's true that fury would have liked the same kind of nerfs as enh

[restive peak]

Sadly not my friend, need an NA acc

[olive wraith]

Except fire mage

They yeeted to the top

[restive peak]

Bro can we all just giggle

At fire mage being "so bad it's unplayable"

To now #1

XD

[forest owl]

ye sad i was hunting for a reply option but none, i'll search the EU ones see if there's anything to add to.

[south kayak]

"scaling"

[keen forum]

blizzard can't handle any of the blue boys not being on top

[static rock]

if they do, they really are living proof of negative IQ

[burnt kelp]

ret also said they were so bad it's unplayable

[keen forum]

just like they can't handle the brown boys not being on the bottom

[restive peak]

Legit feel free to copy pasta me there, I'm cool w it

[rose bay]

is that the secret

just say were unplayable

[static rock]

Blizzard is racist confirmed

[restive peak]

There is nothing wrong with this picture friends

[burnt kelp]

hehehe

[restive peak]

Those 3 classes are just down so bad D:

[olive wraith]

Fdk fell down!!!!

[burnt kelp]

dk fell off

[olive wraith]

Buff pls

[runic violet]

ONE MORE HOUR TO GO

[burnt kelp]

[south kayak]

That's why my alt is a dk

[keen forum]

they fell down 1 spot, we fell down 1 chart

[south kayak]

so i can change to dk

instead of playing fury

[runic violet]

what are the chances for another extension XD

[pearl sequoia]

dk dead dk dead

[south kayak]

since it's a nerf magnet for people who don't know how to tune

[steep lynx]

yea right they bout to add another 2 hrs more fury nerfs incoming

[south kayak]

I'm live streaming deleting my warrior if we get nerfs again

[static rock]

other classes get between .5-2 seasons, we get 1-2 weeks

[buoyant salmon]

just do it man

[median dust]

Wait. You guys don't like obliterating 20% of mobs health only to watch them live for another 3 min in higher keys!??!?!?!

[steep lynx]

aint no way in hell they could possibly consider nerfing us again thats what i said after the 2nd one

[subtle cypress]

Its a good think im just delving at the moment. Fury seems to kick butt in that regard

[olive wraith]

I only delve as prot. Brain off

[south kayak]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning/1973855 go in here and comment or like it

pin this shit

[keen forum]

Blizzard - nerf warrior AoE from orbit
WCL - remove relevant mythic adds from encounters
Guilds - "No stay Fury we literally only bring warrior for it's AoE on these fights"
Warriors - 🪦

[sudden tusk]

Tbh its kinda of a fucked up issue rn

[verbal dragon]

howmany times are they gonna fucking increase downtime

[static rock]

Honestly the euphoria is gone completely doing 8-10 in big pulls then dropping to below 3 million, then having basically nothing for next pull

[south kayak]

go fdk man

worth it

[humble plover]

Here you go guys, everyone's new discord pfp

[burnt kelp]

I like it

[steep lynx]

theyve increased downtime every week since the expansion launched its getting kinda fucking old at this point

[median dust]

[bitter palm]

reckless abandon

[spiral orbit]

Can someone ELI5 why Powerful Enrage is the problem? I had read it's basically the same as frenzied and indeed many warriors are taking frenzied for m+

[bitter palm]

static 1:30s in a world of 30s

[thorny shoal]

does that arrow show up in details?

[bitter palm]

it makes us even stronger in burst

making us even more oppressive in burst in raid

[restive peak]

It exasperated the issue of our burst looking insane, and a lot of people are just running frenzied out of pref

[bitter palm]

"oppressive"

yeah cause powerful sucks dick

remove it

[burnt kelp]

oppressive in heroic raids

[bitter palm]

well as we can see

[burnt kelp]

[bitter palm]

they tune around heroic

so

[buoyant blade]

Blizzard is so incompetent lol

[keen forum]

thank you

[south kayak]

Remove Powerful and buff our abilites by 15% (not cds)

[burnt kelp]

I did enjoy aug evoker being above fury in ST

that was a great moment

[bitter palm]

bro

this design is cooked

[olive wraith]

Ya why does Aug actually do close to anyone in st

[south kayak]

Blizzard literally has no idea what they're doing with fury

[humble plover]

Np king

[south kayak]

it's mind blowing

[bitter palm]

dont look at arms gameplay

[south kayak]

or arms

[olive wraith]

They should be way below considering their whole thing is buffing others

[burnt kelp]

don't look at arms*

please

[bitter palm]

when was the last time they knew what they were doing with arms

[burnt kelp]

do NOT laugh at the arms players

[pearl sequoia]

when slam is part of the rotation im out

[burnt kelp]

legion, and before that mop

[bitter palm]

legion

[south kayak]

Legion for sure

[buoyant salmon]

legion is fine man

[olive wraith]

I don’t understand why people hate slam

[burnt kelp]

if someone mentions BFA and corruption we're gonna have a problem

[olive wraith]

It’s just a button

[quick inlet]

Arms feels like beans to play

[tropic helm]

I still have ptsd from wod arms

[bitter palm]

they wanted to "address issues with rage being cosmetic"

so what did they do

[burnt kelp]

[bitter palm]

rage still cosmetic

[burnt kelp]

rage has to be cosmetic if you don't have an off gcd dump

[buoyant blade]

If your reading fuck you blizzard

[burnt kelp]

or have massive holes in your rotation

[south kayak]

They don't know what they're doing

[burnt kelp]

(not fun)

[bitter palm]

so what

if im waiting

[south kayak]

translates to warrior devs

[humble plover]

They arnt

[scarlet swift]

I’m just waiting for the cursed day that Warrior is forced to use “spenders” and not just rage like everyone else, then i can finally uninstall

[burnt kelp]

people don't like massive holes in their rotation

[restive peak]

Arms AOE is a clunker

[bitter palm]

colossus with wb is smooth

[restive peak]

Arms ST is ok when you're high and just wanna vibe though

Colossus and smooth

NEXT

[burnt kelp]

colossus player

[calm quartz]

collateral strikes on the gcd is BEANS

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-low-tier-god-ltg-mods-crush-his-skull-carry-that-guy-back-to-the-onion-gif-9544187413703686913

[buoyant salmon]

colossus smooth unironically

[bitter palm]

choco they never played it

[calm quartz]

even if its a half gcd its still too long

[south kayak]

Shouldn't they have made tuning pass yesterday

[bitter palm]

i was surprised as well by how smooth it was

[restive peak]

I just hate demolish as an ability tbh

[median dust]

The second I saw a paladin use WoA and it was the same animation as Demolish but they could move on a horse. I almost laid down in a lake.

[restive peak]

I may have to learn it though

[olive wraith]

What is collateral strikes

[bitter palm]

sweeping strikes

[calm quartz]

wake is the same animation?

[olive wraith]

Oh gotcha

[pine echo]

Even the fury Channel ist full of arms enjoyer. Did we fall so deep brothers?

[calm quartz]

thought demolish was just fyralath

[south kayak]

It doesn't make sense to do tuning on reset, shouldn't they have made a tuning pass yday? @restive peak

[weary sail]

Blizzard saw this and said Fury needed more nerfs

[south kayak]

blizzard literally looks at WCL to nerf lmao

where's their data

[steel void]

easiest dps specs to get mythic + groups with?

[south kayak]

does it not exist?

[median dust]

Yes. A bit faster, but the same gfx. Only paladins can move and we can't without using some fancy animation cancel/jump

[restive peak]

I mean we'll see tuning this upcoming week, the race ended too close to reset cycle

[weary sail]

Mage

[south kayak]

Frost DK damage reduced by 3%

[calm quartz]

fdk needs like a 5% aura

[south kayak]

nah 10%

[burnt kelp]

for people that don't know, wake of ashes is basically warbreaker on a 30 sec cd that doesn't cost you any single target dps. Hammer of light is demolish but without the shitty cast time, or the out of synch cd since it's a follow up spell

[restive peak]

I swear if the 1st warrior line isn't "reverted the 3% nerf" or "buffed all fury abilities by 3%"

[south kayak]

arcane 10%

enha 10%

[bitter palm]

design is all over the place this expac

[south kayak]

there u go

hire me

[bitter palm]

some classes suck dick

[restive peak]

I will probably just get upset about it and move on

[burnt kelp]

basically if you are playing arms why are you playing the fake ret spec, you clown

[restive peak]

But still

[bitter palm]

some can do everything

[gilded flicker]

are there tunning for today ?

[calm quartz]

fdk gets hard carried by deathbringer

[restive peak]

Almost like introducing hero talents after seeing the mess that was aug was a mistake....lol

[south kayak]

All you can do is bring some awareness to it and you did that

[south kayak]

? nah, rider is just as good in m+

[calm quartz]

is it?

[median dust]

You'll still be #1 sargeras warrior bb. Ole Orkbolg can't catch you. Too much pug

[calm quartz]

rarely see anyone play it

[restive peak]

They need to do a HARD reset on a lot of things, prune and get balance right

[south kayak]

yes

[bitter palm]

the fact that colossus has nothing for rage gen is xd

[burnt kelp]

rider is okay if you don't know your tank

[restive peak]

And then they can focus on adding

[restive peak]

❤️

I'll get title on warr still

My ego demands it

[olive wraith]

It’ll just be as arms

[restive peak]

But I am gonna play my mage a lot more unless there's tuning because it's just....way easier and safer

[olive wraith]

[bitter palm]

[calm quartz]

revert aura nerf, dont implement target cap nerf

[rugged maple]

Ooo I'm on Sargeras too

[bitter palm]

surely arms can aoe and st at the same time

[calm quartz]

fuck it buff rampage so it does more than CB

[bitter palm]

[icy stream]

more nerfs!

[south kayak]

I have an idea what I want buffs to be like

[icy stream]

i just cant why do they hate us? because they aint us

[olive wraith]

I mean arms has jugg

[bitter palm]

pick one cooldown to remove from the spec

[median dust]

Just lower the resource cost would change the world imo

[bitter palm]

imo they should remove avatar from arms nad fury

[hasty tide]

Our spender doing less dps than a resource gainer is such bad game design lol

[pine oyster]

Face it Blizzard has not like warriors since CATA

[calm quartz]

was about to say that xdd

[bitter palm]

u have 4 buttons

[olive wraith]

Spender, builder doesn’t matter

[tiny hare]

our ST is fine (Sikran)

[rugged maple]

Ravager

[bitter palm]

it legit doesntm atter

[south kayak]

Rampage damage increased by 30%.
Bloodthirst damage increased by 15%.
Execute damage increased by 30%.
Meat Cleaver increases damage done to nearby targets by 60% (was 55%)

[bitter palm]

u never play it

[south kayak]

Easy

[bitter palm]

next

[eternal sundial]

Yappo

[vocal siren]

when are servers even supposed to be up now

[rugged maple]

For MT luls

[olive wraith]

I’d rather have fatter cb

[bitter palm]

xd clappa

[olive wraith]

Or bt

[median dust]

And MC now has 6 stacks

[calm quartz]

that would make our ST in M+ a littlee too epic

[lament hinge]

your pic is upside down

[median dust]

boom

[south kayak]

this is completely fine and isn't broken

100%

[olive wraith]

Make me want to press bb in aoe at all times

[south kayak]

trust

[bitter palm]

slayer being bladestorm focused was a big mistake

[hasty tide]

Fury should be a resource management mini game with rage and instead it's almost non existent

[eternal sundial]

The devs will send you into 2 ww stack stone age

[humble plover]

Reduce to 40. Hit more targets than 4

[olive wraith]

Why can’t we have ravager instead

[south kayak]

[bitter palm]

thats what arms should be

[burnt kelp]

only if you add an off gcd rage dump

[vocal siren]

BRING BACK HEROIC STRIKE

[rotund ginkgo]

Bis pre raid double cheeser

[burnt kelp]

if "ressource management" is not pressing anything for 5sec+

[vocal siren]

there

[calm quartz]

The high I get once I feel caffeinated is worrying

[burnt kelp]

I don't want it

[vocal siren]

we fixed it

[median dust]

The slayer work for Fury was just lazy in general. Should have been something more original. Arms got Col. We basically got the step child of the other two specs

[south kayak]

also buff Onslaught by 100% and make Tenderize get you 5 stacks of Slaughtering Strikes

Thoughts?

[bitter palm]

at most as arms u delayed a gcd

[hasty tide]

We only have 1 singular spender, I'm not sure rage management matters when you make that spender less valuable than other rotational abilities

[south kayak]

now you play Onslaught in ST

as god intended

[burnt kelp]

what is at most, in which expansion

[bitter palm]

thats reckless abandon

[vocal siren]

off global heroic strike so your keyboard dies faster than anything else

[bitter palm]

what

this has to be bait

[burnt kelp]

in uldir even with charge weave you had to massively delay gcds

[tiny hare]

RA should be the best passive for us, AM is so troll

[south kayak]

what do you guys thiink of a big buff to onslaught and tenderize?

[bitter palm]

ok is it uldir now

in 9.1 u had to manage rage

and it felt good

[burnt kelp]

well I don't know what you are talking about

[bitter palm]

at most u would delay a gcd

[olive wraith]

Buff bt by 50%

[bitter palm]

for a mortal strike thats coming off cd

[burnt kelp]

you didn't mention which patch you were talking about before now

[brazen island]

I think a big buff to anything at this point is something i’ll happily take

[south kayak]

Rampage by 50% tbh

[hasty tide]

Buff tier focused on single target only, remove aura nerf, and remove ptr aoe cap

[bitter palm]

any modern patch

[olive wraith]

I wanna press bt more

[median dust]

Bring back Deadly Calm for all specs. 🙂

[olive wraith]

Screw rampage

[south kayak]

ok then BT is 15% and rampage is 30%

[brazen island]

Feels so bad to have literally a single patch where we’re eating and then go back to shit for another three tiers

[south kayak]

and execute like 50%

it's so bad

[low folio]

i pooped

[vocal siren]

people dont remember the heroic strike spam days

[olive wraith]

I want bb to be better than cb

[vocal siren]

my F key died faster than any other key

[calm quartz]

proud of you

[steel void]

what item level do i need to be before people actully invite me on a fury warrior

[south kayak]

buff BT/RB and ignore BB/CB

so we play AM

[calm quartz]

I feel the caffeine flowing through me

[brazen island]

640

[calm quartz]

soon it will be my time

[keen forum]

oh sweet summer child

[median dust]

I fully expect the next update to say.. "Removed Odyns Fury from Skill Tree"

[south kayak]

now baseline

pog

[olive wraith]

Increase reap chance

[calm quartz]

Furys st would be drastically improved if execute didnt suck so much ass

[keen forum]

Max level for Fury is now level 70

[dense elbow]

Could you guys stop sandbagging

I beg

[rotund ginkgo]

"odyns fury now scales with int"

[calm quartz]

Tfw BB is a better execute than execute

[olive wraith]

I like this

[brazen island]

Just give us a 20% aura nerf so that we finally all reroll dk and get frost nerfed

[scarlet swift]

Execute is a filler, imagine

[burnt kelp]

When fdk is nerfed

[olive wraith]

Arms is the execute spec

[burnt kelp]

Time to play unholy

[polar narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-gif-19364920

[calm quartz]

Execute damage increased by ONE HUNDRED PERCENT

[south kayak]

Execute probably needs a 30% buff

to be used on cd

maybe even more

[olive wraith]

Go play arms

[scarlet swift]

Always crits too

[humble plover]

This is why y'all shouldn't cook either. Food y'all makes tastes like shit

[dense elbow]

Could just allow exe reap and to give tenderise stacks

[south kayak]

better than what's blizzard cooking

[calm quartz]

We cooked, and everyone got food poisoning

[polar narwhal]

Just bring Condemn back and have it bypass Armor

[south kayak]

Execute gives 2 tenderize stacks

[vale reef]

Execute, never allowed to parry imagine

[south kayak]

and tenderize makes onslaught give 5 stacks

buff onslaught by 100%

[bitter palm]

HOOOLY

IMAGINE THE CONDITIONALS

[scarlet swift]

Remove parry or give ranged parry, make it fair

[south kayak]

any conditionals in chat

[bitter palm]

press exe if a b c d f

press os if a b c

[south kayak]

real

[bitter palm]

hoooly

there are already

9 billion conditionals

for 1% dps (real)

[vestal root]

Bring back that autoattack talent that i always forget the name from because im warrior

[scarlet swift]

What conditional do i need to get a guy named Arms out of Fury chat?

[weary sail]

LOOOOL

[dense elbow]

huh? It doesnt?

[runic violet]

40 more mins.. .fuck

[bitter palm]

do more than 3 damage on st

[dense elbow]

SS only is given by Raging blow and OS with tenderise?

[low folio]

imagine thinking they wont delay the reset another hour

[scarlet swift]

I’m about to load up CoD, call me when it’s live

[chilly zodiac]

With the upcoming nerfs, is it bad enough to honestly consider reroll?

[bitter palm]

no

[dense elbow]

Well, no

[south kayak]

I'm talking about what i want to happen

[olive wraith]

Play what you enjoy

[scarlet swift]

Monk is fun

[dense elbow]

3 stacks, then, or no deal

[olive wraith]

Fury will still be able to do 10s

[bitter palm]

people are just unhappy with the fact we are getting nerfed over nothing

[scarlet swift]

It’s 2h-less warrior

[restive peak]

If the upcoming nerfs go through with no compensation, and no nerfs to others, and you play at the top end, you'll likely want to go arms or reroll

[south kayak]

I want all rotational abilities to give one stack of SS

execute 2

[restive peak]

If any of those cases don't occur, you're good

[low folio]

yes reroll into a mage. we need more mages that are bait for pugs to invite

[weary sail]

Yes. Its over. Fury dead. TWW dead. Wow dead. Gaming dead.

[bitter palm]

if they are asking these questions they are NOT at the top end

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758086817730920529/1273098382461636689/1272902776497639475-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[restive peak]

I mean you could play DPS resto shaman in heroic

So like w/e

[median dust]

que Seinfeld music.

[clever path]

I will never reroll

[south kayak]

the fuck

[bitter palm]

tredova moment

[scarlet swift]

I was a DPS MW-monk last xpac 😄

[median dust]

Two guarantee's in keys atm... Invsible mechanics in Dawnbreaker and Mists.

[low folio]

obviously blizzard decided mists was too easy and created phantom swirlies

[weary sail]

Popping off 👑

[south kayak]

1 guarantee in life

[torpid sand]

I loved this interface, really

[barren coral]

is that elvui?

[south kayak]

fury gets nerfed because why not

[dense elbow]

I mean, why not

[barren coral]

now his ego through the roof gj

[median dust]

Yea, a set DL with custom

[static rock]

The shield phase has a big hit at the very beginning

[low folio]

that didnt look like the shield bursting. he was the only one to take damage and it was a one tap

[weary sail]

Not the shield phase

Hes the only one got hit

[oblique trail]

You don't go from 100 to 0 from the shield burst

[median dust]

tyty.. spent some time on it. does pretty good for elvui. Still cranking 100 fps on max.

[dense elbow]

If fury gets slapped 100 to 0 by the AoE, with 6 mill HP, the other 5 mill HP lads should be greyed out too no?

[slender perch]

Is fury warrior dying compared to arms now and due to extra nerfs soon?

[dense elbow]

Compared to, yes

[runic violet]

I think arms might be more desired in higher M+

[south kayak]

nah

arms will die

[dense elbow]

Fury will simply never be desired, so it aint wrong

[median dust]

I think the poison swirls go invisible sometimes.. Just like Dawnbreaker poison wall mechanic

[weary sail]

Arms also getting an AoE nerf

[runic violet]

arms needs AA

[median dust]

The funniest part (not funny) about fury nerfs is all the strays Arms keeps catching

[runic violet]

I haven't checked in amrs channel... how are they doing

I did arms last 2 seasons.

[restive peak]

Gelly is cranking as arms so idk

[weary sail]

Its hilarious that they nerf arms aoe lmao

[scarlet swift]

thats all he does, for a decade

[runic violet]

poor

fellas

[whole wigeon]

Arms is slapping in ST but idk about aoe

[median dust]

I was pumping 2 weeks ago as Colossus when I could pad on the orbs with Demolish. XD LOL

[restive peak]

I mean to be fair the arms AOE nerf is almost irrelevant

[static rock]

Last time I saw they were pissed that fury was doing good at the start, looks like they got their wish

[runic violet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-3-347348

[low folio]

doesnt the thunderous roar cap hurt arms even more than fury

thought they had a lot more bleed effect buffs

[static rock]

We are literally doing worse now than in S2...

[runic violet]

In M+, it hurts all warriors

[weary sail]

[south kayak]

Blizzard doesn't know how to tune

fire everyone there

[runic violet]

They are nerfing based on raid... not M+

[south kayak]

and hire competent people

[runic violet]

we are fucked in M+

[static rock]

Look at boss damage

[whole wigeon]

Can they just buff thane to high heavens bc slayer is boring af

[median dust]

Yea heroic raid lol

[runic violet]

who pulls one pack at a time when u pushing

[dense elbow]

Well, thanks to Rashan now being a ST fight - we are now in a pretty dire spot

[south kayak]

buff fury

buff tier set

[weary sail]

Dont worry more nerfs are coming

[dense elbow]

At this point, just nerf us more

get it done with

so I can start gaining DPS

[south kayak]

nerf fury so i can go play something else

[frigid zealot]

Buff fury based abilities. Nerf odyns/bladestorm more. Remove that stupid aura they added which nerfed the wrong part od their kit

[soft totem]

fury is for pussies

[low folio]

ive tried other classes, the only one i kinda enjoyed was dev evoker but i have no clue if they are any good in keys

[median dust]

Best part about fury is having a AUG in your group on a 10+ and watching their health drop to 70% health in a blink but then it's like using 2 pillows to kill a brick wall

[frigid zealot]

Todu speaking real facts

[runic violet]

I don't want to play ret... I just don't feel that attached.

[dense elbow]

If they nerf OF more, we wont use it tho - it will kill the button in all but raid burst scenarios

[static rock]

@soft totem I get that you just want a reaction, but at least explain yourself

[molten wing]

Todu

[burnt kelp]

Ret is just arms

[runic violet]

ret is better than arms

[frigid zealot]

It's also all your damage combine with bs most the time damage in raid on bosses you are good on and fuck all of your st damage which youre the worst class on

[burnt kelp]

If you like arms you'll like ret

[median dust]

with shorter cooldowns, more survivability, and group utility

[runic violet]

bruh... ret sustained aoe is insane

[molten wing]

have you heard about the "Forbidden Ret" build

[dense elbow]

Their ST is kinda meh tho

[tropic helm]

Ret feels good though

[runic violet]

ret ST isn't bad

[median dust]

not anymore.

it's actually pretty good

[runic violet]

ret kinda relies on rng more than warriors

[calm quartz]

Qrva keeps up with crit

[runic violet]

but when the rng pops... oh man

[soft totem]

@molten wing 👋

[molten wing]

https://bolas.substack.com/p/the-forbidden-build

glad to see old man Todu still keeping it

[pearl sequoia]

crit only using 5% of his power wdym

[median dust]

I think it's more that Crit keeps up with Qrva these days lol ducks

[dense elbow]

Crit is a FDK main, why we still talking about him?

[molten wing]

there is some weird chinese build where Divine Storm does as much damage as Templers Verdict in that talent setup so you just never press TV and you only spam Divine Storm

that shit cranks in sustained aoe/m+

obviously has mediocre ST but if you got someone to cover that it cranks the aoe

[runic violet]

divine storm spam feels amazing.

[calm quartz]

Gripcake

[median dust]

Awesome. get a fury... lawl

[unreal onyx]

new copypasta dropped?

[molten wing]

[runic violet]

ret divine storm spam aoe is awesome.

[ember apex]

good meme

and fast AF too

[queen linden]

kekw. Keep nerfing warrior! We need to just not even remotely be on the list.

[low folio]

you guys are trying to convince us to play ret

[weary sail]

[ember apex]

we also have more nerfs in the pipeline

[median dust]

Ret dps just felt so fake to me. Not impactful. No substance.. idk

[fading bane]

dumbest shit ive seen

[ember apex]

lowkey i have a ret paladin alt for just this reason

[soft totem]

@fading bane

[ember apex]

i'll be damned if i get fucken benched

[soft totem]

henlo d2

[runic violet]

That's why I don't play so often... it just feels disconnected.

[fading bane]

henlo old man

[molten wing]

fury has its niche and that's burst aoe , if you want ST just play the superior spec for that and go Arms

[runic violet]

I only play when I'm that bored

[static rock]

I swear they got a new dev who thought the obvious and buffed us finally, then immediately got fired for doing so and they nerfed us to hell like the always do

[ember apex]

100%. however the damage meter doesnt lie

[runic violet]

burst AOE has no meaning for M+ push

[molten wing]

which is why you will probably push with other classes

[meager void]

When did this discord fill with whiny fotm rerollers?

[ember apex]

it does on a few bosses that have adds that truck like 2nd to last boss and last bass of city of threads

[molten wing]

or hit a wall eventually unless you are Critcake/Lincc or some god gamer

[dense elbow]

Well, burst AoE got its uses - even in m+. Just needs it to not be gutted in the name of raid balance

Raid balance is the issue, not the profile

[ember apex]

u cant be sad about where we are now if u never appreciated where we were

bring back The War Within Classic

#nochanges

[runic violet]

AOE burst has meaning in some fights, yes, but overall, not really

[spare steppe]

Can non-fotm complain?

[queen linden]

Burst aoe? That's on a 1-2m CD. Meanwhile frost DKs are bursting every trash pack lol

[static rock]

Been here since legion, didn't even touch other classes or specs in SL, so I'm here for the end of time

[runic violet]

AOE burst = padding

[dense elbow]

2min cd?

[ember apex]

🧢

[dense elbow]

you gotta be fotm

[spare steppe]

I rerolled to whatever is fun to play for a season ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest owl]

thats what my guild BMs say fury is xD

[spare steppe]

Don’t care about topping meters

[ember apex]

how are u in the fury warrior discord in here literally PAD SHAMING

[median dust]

Another nerf and Ill prob just go back to Jugger in keys and just work to get massive MS crits

[meager void]

AoE burst also means you have to be surgical with it to use it properly

[runic violet]

if you tune a class based on padding dmg... that's not right.

[ember apex]

"padding damage" liquid used 2 of them on their kill

[meager void]

Sustained is that braindead dead thing you guys keep saying you dont want...

[ember apex]

b/c they kill important adds

[fading bane]

none of the dmg fury does in raid is pad

[runic violet]

that's raid. what about M+

[dense elbow]

AoE burst aint pad tho, it is just a another profile. Mobs gotta die - and our ST is decent

[ember apex]

they were big on tindral, big on fyrakk, etc...

M+ is a different story, we dont have sustained cleave which is a problem

[ember apex]

💯

[fading bane]

fury not having good sustained 5 target cleave just feels wrong

[static rock]

Quick question, what sort of damage are people generally doing in 10-11s? 1.2-1.3 million?

[queen linden]

Imo, only reason we got nerfed so hard is because RWF teams were class stacking warrior week 1 before other classes had gear. They jumped the gun on nerfing us.

[south kayak]

I saw some guy playing the other hero talent as ret today lol

[runic violet]

Fury dmg becomes more irrelevant as u climb in M+

[dense elbow]

1.3-1.4, more if I dont play with the blasters

[low folio]

4 bibble dps

[south kayak]

first time

[runic violet]

weaker sustained dmg

[median dust]

Depends on the pulls but that seems low unless you have a Ret in your gorup

[ember apex]

true, if we're target capped at 5 targets, we should be the best 5 target AOE in the entire game

unless tehre's another dps spec that is target capped at 5

[static rock]

i do

[meager void]

Depends on the dungeon but yeah 1.3-1.4

[spare steppe]

outlaw

[south kayak]

8 not 5

[runic violet]

Also... u don't pull one pack at a time.

[median dust]

Ret's will fck you. Hard

[ember apex]

outlaw and fury should be 5 target cleave GODS

[dense elbow]

That is so cute he thinks blizzard cares about logical balance points

[runic violet]

rets will definitely ratfuck fury

[zealous whale]

are these nerfs happening today or what

[runic violet]

in higher M+

[south kayak]

lets go

[static rock]

It's up?

[ember apex]

what's happening

[spare steppe]

november

[runic violet]

server up?

[weary sail]

Traitor

[south kayak]

nothing, that's ret

[dense elbow]

Box going ret

[south kayak]

im not, just an alt

[low folio]

ha he got you guys

truth is they will delay another hour

[queen linden]

Fury dedge, time for Arms bois. Pack it up.

[static rock]

They are literally nerfing us after this shitshow

[runic violet]

no surprise

[median dust]

I can't wait any longer to pick from the 4 cloaks in my vault!!! PLZ

[runic violet]

I'm going to smoke a fat one.... before the vault reveal.

[south kayak]

surely they'l compensate us by buffing our non cds for sustained damage

[restive peak]

Extended again

So sick

[vocal siren]

Wait

are u serious

[zealous whale]

so it is today wtf

[south kayak]

what

[median dust]

Maybe they saw your post and decided to revert the 3% aura haha

[dense elbow]

That is what you guys get, for asking for Fury burst to be moved into sustained damage. Time out for all of ya'll

[static rock]

no

[runic violet]

FUCK

[static rock]

They are nerfing us in 11.0.5

[south kayak]

better than getting nerfed needlessly because of our burst

literally the reson we're getting nerfed

fuck that

[calm quartz]

jesus fucking christ blizz

[south kayak]

gimme back my sustained fury

[calm quartz]

get a grip

[ember apex]

my GM 😭

[zealous whale]

oh okay thanks

[restive peak]

Probably pissed them off and they're slappin another 5er on bud

[dense elbow]

Keyword being needlessly - it aint needed

[fading bane]

warrior is so bad that rwf guilds only played 2 on every boss

what a fucked up season

[static rock]

Still proves that blizzard has negative IQ

[south kayak]

warrior is awful

[zealous whale]

100%

[ember apex]

u realize we've been nerfed 4x times since launch yeah?

[zealous whale]

hopefully they open there fucking eyes by then

[weary sail]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-tom-hardy-max-rockatansky-thats-bait-bait-gif-4987723

[ember apex]

when liquid geared 4 warriors, the tuning for them was completely different

[south kayak]

liquid is the problem

[spare steppe]

4x?

[vocal siren]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[static rock]

Without massie nerfs on the only thing we're good at

[spare steppe]

i thought it was twice

15% OF, 10% BS and then 3% aura

[fading bane]

u realise warrior has been the saem since mythic week

[restive fiber]

is there any other nerfs ?

[restive peak]

Max has already stated, after checking logs post kill, that 2 warrs was likely a misplay but it was too late to pivot off the root dmg

[static rock]

if you count each part, bladestorm, OF, 3% and 5T nerfs

[sinful spoke]

chat dont get bopped on dawnbreaker last boss

[ember apex]

that isn't what i claimed

[sinful spoke]

kit kills u

[restive peak]

We're good

[young swan]

unhinged got shit on couple weeks before that too

[restive peak]

Right now

We will be absolute dogwater in 11.0.5, and our tier is still bad

[spare steppe]

werent they claiming that was a bug fix?

[dense elbow]

they did claim that

ye

[restive peak]

They can leave us untouched and nerf all the outliers and I'd be fine w that

I can handle being last, I can't handle being last by 15-20%

[hard widget]

Yes warrior deadge, reroll mage asap

[ember apex]

[young swan]

yeah when it works the same way for the entirety of beta and into live its not a bug fix, they just didnt like how strong it was

[restive peak]

Lincmagician is geared bro don't stress

[spare steppe]

honestly the 8t -> 5t is the really uncalled for nerf

[fading bane]

Echo also played 1 warrior for most prog

but ended up swapping to 2

for the kill

its the spiderling dmg in p3 that its the best at

[sick jungle]

No fucking way it extended again

[south kayak]

it was uncalled for before tha lmao

[runic violet]

They needed padderes

[south kayak]

that was getting fuckedi nthe ass

[weary sail]

God forbid people used their brain for arguments instead of just copy paste the RWF comp

[torpid sand]

lmfao

[static rock]

I swear every time fury seems good, it's our worst ST we'e seen in ages, they somehow made us worse than in DF S2

[eager thorn]

this should work fine right? to focus what im hovering over + then storm bolt em

[hard widget]

Jevknight, Jevsham, Jevemage in the making

Dw

[torpid sand]

they extended the maintenance again

[spare steppe]

the 10% BS and 15% OF was fine honestly

[torpid sand]

by another hour

[hasty tide]

While we are dooming, how come fury doesn't have extended melee range with two giant weapons?

[sick jungle]

Holy shit blizz this shit is just embarrassing now

[torpid sand]

[south kayak]

I agree there, I'm talking about the 3% one

[crisp bronze]

Oh shoot naowhs mdi team won't be competeting for the foreseeable future

[restive peak]

A lot of the time they realize a spec was not their best shot, but they're 300 pulls in and have prio geared the chars, so they deal with it

[spare steppe]

oh yeah the 3% just didnt make any sense

[dense elbow]

say it is not so... dont have max throw that out there...
we... will get killed...

[restive peak]

You really think Echo wanted to keep boomkin+prot pala at their pulls went on? Hell nah, but their strat was built around it

[weary sail]

They not gonna switch new specs in after gearing to 627 ilvl and 300 pulls in

[torpid sand]

i miss DF S3 single target fr

[south kayak]

and even after that the soft cap to TR and OF

[spare steppe]

like if a spec is doing too much burst damage... nerf the burst

[restive peak]

He means it was a misplay as in they should've run 1 warrior

[spare steppe]

dont nerf the St thats clearly lagging

[static rock]

Sadly took a break cause I couldn't due to IRL sh*t

[dense elbow]

1 warrior, we saved

[restive peak]

If they removed raid buffs with current tuning

[spare steppe]

2 warriors lets one warrior a week parse

[torpid sand]

S3 ST was very good, even though the playstyle was boring as shit

[restive peak]

Literally half the DPS classes would be removed

[weary sail]

Meanwhile they ran 5-6 evoker

[fading bane]

Max is a max level waffler, and all top 3 guilds played 2 warriors

[spare steppe]

was gonna call you out there deattu

[restive peak]

Tuning being off is fine, being last by 5% is fine, when there are 3 CLASSES that are 15% ahead on multiple specs, it's unacceptable and gamebreaking

[spare steppe]

good edit

[restive fiber]

at least there nothing to nerf now

[spare steppe]

mages, dk, and who's the third?

[hard widget]

I agree unacceptable Linc

Lets protest

[static rock]

you underestimate blizzard's stupidity...

[fading bane]

mythic statistics are so misleading tho

[restive peak]

No, he's correct that likely another mage or FDK or WW would've been more beneficial, but 300+ pulls in and having spent 2 clears gearing certain people means you hunker down and finish

[spare steppe]

i guess shaman

[restive peak]

Mythic stats are all that matters

[south kayak]

yo linc, repost your thread

[fading bane]

we only have stats from 4 bosses

who all are a complete joke

[restive peak]

Heroic can be cleared by 15 BM hunters with no pets out

[fading bane]

the only bosses that matter are the last 4

[restive peak]

We ride

[dense elbow]

I think guys forget things at blizz moves at a snails pace - we are still getting nerfed for HC week.
Lots of uproar about it. Many to do tickets to nerf warrior coming.

[restive peak]

And which bosses is fury good on of the last 4 Deattu

Please, educate me

[fading bane]

Ovinax

and Queen

half of them

[restive peak]

Because it's dogwater on kyveza and silken, and the literal RWF leader just admitted it was a mistake to run 2 on queen

[fading bane]

you just play Arms on those 2

[south kayak]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning/1973855/36 like this and post here

[restive peak]

Ovinax is nuked today, you're going to move a ton of AOE off of that boss for ST

[weary sail]

We talking about Fury

[static rock]

Just proves that they don't care about anything in the actual game, only what they see from their reports

[weary sail]

What does arms have to do with fury?

[warm crag]

both are accessible by every brown class

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-unknown-nodding-smiling-gif-23716326

[fading bane]

why would u move away from aoe?

that makes no sense

[weary sail]

We talking about Fury tuning what does arms have to do with fury??

[restive peak]

Because you can skip an entire egg break set with the nerfs and another week of vaults/crests/reclears

[pearl sequoia]

extended another hour

zzzZZZ

[weary sail]

since arms is fine ST so fury should be shit at ST??

[restive peak]

Also most of us already swapped warr 2 to RA

[warm crag]

who's we the discussion was about warrior in top end

[fading bane]

the 8 other sets still need to die

like what

u cant just go full St and expect them to still die

[restive peak]

I'm actually on the boss

Are you?

[fading bane]

Yes

[warm crag]

lmfao

[spare steppe]

i'm not!

[fading bane]

we have it at 10%

[restive peak]

Because I've already moved to RA and dropped AM because the adds die

[fading bane]

ive been top 50ish since like BfA

[dense elbow]

Nah, this is 100% about fury - not arms, or warrior - and prot warrior, what not.
Stop the derail

[restive peak]

And now the boss will giga die

[fading bane]

ive been playing RA all prog

[restive peak]

And if you enjoy being a CD holding AOE bot who does literal dogwater boss dam, I'm very happy for you

[weary sail]

Literally saying its fine for Fury to be shit because Arms exist?????

[restive peak]

I would prefer to go back to our steady curve of balanced dmg

And so would a lot of others

[dense elbow]

I am against that tho

dance

[restive peak]

You're not an ascended being because you accept garbage tuning

[meager void]

The jeff buckley profile pic is gonna break your heart, dont get baited

[restive peak]

It just makes you a pushover

[weary sail]

[tender seal]

How is it compared to AM ? i played AM for like 50 pulls now and i dont like it

[dense elbow]

Lincc is the pushover, for letting go of Fury burst for steady safe boring DPS

[restive peak]

I too will play warrior no matter what, and play arms on the fights it's called for, and I can still acknowledge the current state of tuning is dogwater

And nerfing fury from 1 to 21, while 26th on boss dam, is a massive concern

[south kayak]

real

[meager void]

Based. A warrior's warrior

[south kayak]

I'm just gonna play a safe class

not warrior

that blizzard keeps shitting on

[rotund ginkgo]

Pre raid drip

[low folio]

ive been running ra in keys but dont keep up with what people are running, am is still kinda niche right

[rotund ginkgo]

Bouta wipe to ovinax 40 times

[restive peak]

So tired of internet idiots being all edgy and pretending they don't see a problem because they don't understand the problem and therefore, they're cool and smart

[rotund ginkgo]

@restive peak at least ima look good doing it

[young swan]

warrior is safe lmfao

[sour abyss]

I'm full commit fury no matter what. Just means I get to bitch louder than everyone else, right?

[frank dawn]

don't worry guys they are only extending maintenance so they can figure out what fury buffs to push in a hotfix

[south kayak]

nah it ain't

[low folio]

ha it did get pushed back another hour

[south kayak]

as evident

[slender perch]

Blizz are just full of dogs.
Useless tuning as always and not thinking even about ret. Smashing keys and boss dmg. Mongs

[short silo]

Warrior just not allowed to perform well

[warm crag]

like you cant genuinely say this fury and arms are literally a 2-3 off on the bosses that matter

[sour abyss]

***nerfs

[lone dove]

4% nerf to all damage this time

[young swan]

yeah u just play 1 of 2 dps specs on literally every every fight 0 exceptions

not safe btw

[warm crag]

just cause wclogs changed how they report damage doesnt mean fury is garbage man you out of all people should recognize this

[restive peak]

If the nerfs in 11.0.5 go through with zero compensation, we will be very poor compared to others

[restive fiber]

blizzard should know that nerfs feels bad for the players

[restive peak]

And again, fury being bottom is fine, it's NOT fine when it's by 15-20%

[summer quail]

warrior is safe. 1 of the 2 dps specs are always good. if you're a fury otp ofc you're not always gonna be "safe" @south kayak

[sour abyss]

That would require them to care about the general playerbase

[warm crag]

this is true but the nerf is a month away with literally no bluetext explaining it anywhere

[unreal wasp]

I saw critcake tear up in a video about the next nerfs we are getting

[restive peak]

If the entire list was within 5% top to bottom, and we were bottom, I wouldn't care

[south kayak]

I'd rather play something safer

[restive peak]

There's never blue text explaining anything, that's the issue