fury

[barren coral]

and i cant really comprehend what kind of stones these people bleed for more damage

its not like i can press raging blow any faster

[south kayak]

Poor Rocksmasher

[tardy lark]

the line says to press rampage if both conditions are true. Below 100 rage and no opportunist proc. The next line is a rampage to enable CB for opportunist

oh, phil already answered

dont mind me

[south kayak]

I know what it feels like, Rocksmasher..

[sand crest]

one thing you can do that helped me out when I was trying to get better is go to a specific raid fight, pick out one of the top 10 fury warrs, then click on them in the log and go to casts > timelines

[tardy lark]

dm log

[sand crest]

you'll be able to see their entire rota throughout the fight

[forest owl]

all he wanteds to do was smash rocks

[sand crest]

you might end up seeing things that you dont do

and it can make a big diff

[south kayak]

let him smash

[barren coral]

also why is warcraftlogs doing this?

is that just peak dps?

[tardy lark]

you are looking at rashanan logs

[sand crest]

rahsanan logs no longer take add dmg into consideration

[barren coral]

yes

[tardy lark]

WCL made the dumb as bricks decision to remove adds from that fight

[sand crest]

wlogs changed it recently

its dumb af but it is what it is

[tardy lark]

because fury performed too well on it

[sand crest]

they coudlve just taken it off all stars like they usually do

idk why they decided to do it this way

[barren coral]

is taht why this guy, who is #1 best fury warrior for his ilvl, is somehow BARELY purple parsing at 76?

[sand crest]

rly stupid imo

[eternal sundial]

Ilvl logs are fake

Why ever look at 607 when ur 620

[sand crest]

if he hasnt done the fight since the change then yes

they retroactively changed parses for the fight as well

[barren coral]

cuz im 606 on my assa main and i dont have enough time to play to reach anything over 615 anytime sono

[barren coral]

i see

[eternal sundial]

Look at what actually good logs do

Damage breakdown will be the same

Cuz the 606 guy just be the only one in his bracket with 4P and embells and thus farm em even if he's bad

[barren coral]

oke, but what about my own logs, if im low geared compared to the avg gearscore of others logs, i will simply always score shit?

[sand crest]

yes

[eternal sundial]

It doesnt help

[barren coral]

......

[sand crest]

unfortunately

yes

[barren coral]

thats a huge moodkiller

[tardy lark]

this was somehow still an orange parse

[sand crest]

you cant compete in parses if you dont compete in gear

its just not possible

[eternal sundial]

The game has always been like this

You functionally cannot get a rlly good log

[barren coral]

i dont rlly use this site a lot but i wouldve been happy to use it as my personal leaderboard and see if i actually performed well

[eternal sundial]

Without proper gear

[barren coral]

but i dont have the time to get gear like that anymore

[eternal sundial]

You can go for ilvl logs

Ive done so on a meme alt

[barren coral]

yeah im just new to this, ive taken wow a lot more laidback in the past

[sand crest]

but nobody will praise you for em

[tardy lark]

watch me full bis and take off cloak to get rank 1 ilvl logs

[eternal sundial]

But that ended up becoming me unequipping bracers

I did get my 100 avg for ilvl tho

Surely matters...

[barren coral]

does it also count how long the fight takes?

[tardy lark]

no

[sand crest]

no

[barren coral]

for example a giga raid could effectively boost your parse if it manages to just finish the fight in your burst window

[ornate gust]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAkqf-FCJHD/?igsh=ejNtNjU5c3NyYnRo

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[sand crest]

indeed

[tardy lark]

or well yes, you can filter for it, but it isnt a factor in leaderboards

[barren coral]

.....

[sand crest]

thats usually why the better ur guild is, the better u parse

all of these are factors

[barren coral]

omfg

this solved a mystery i had

since BFA

[tardy lark]

or when boosting really takes off, the 30 man scaling of adds being damage taken by a single person is real good for logs

[sand crest]

but its rly cd dependent, like as fury ud rather finish a fight in 3min20 than 3mins

for maximum dmg

[eternal sundial]

The easiest way to giga log

Is a speed kill on st boss

With mega crit %

[barren coral]

all this time i could not understand why was I always in top 3 dps of the raid but my logs were shit, guess which logs here were done with the guild

[tardy lark]

i guess percentiles is kinda confusing

[nocturne relic]

Wait a second that's not fury

[eternal sundial]

Who cares

[barren coral]

ive been a fury player for a week

[eternal sundial]

It's a general question

[sand crest]

bm is ranged fury

good enough

x)

[barren coral]

this is my favorite one though

[sand crest]

oof

[barren coral]

imagine how stupid i felt back in SL when i was actually really high gear, and seeing bottom 10%

like how can you fuck up a boomie rota?

[ornate gust]

Why play warrior when you can play other melee classes?

[barren coral]

its really fun and looks good

[eternal sundial]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/p7c14ZQtKgd9vNVz#fight=8&type=damage-done @tardy lark buff dh bro

[barren coral]

i love the burst and its pvp playstyle

and now that mage fotm is gone

i actually get to have fun

right now my "main" is supposedly rogue, but honestly ill just let him rest until 0.5

too much QoL missing

[tardy lark]

[radiant plank]

[tardy lark]

mage and warlock are the only hero classes this game has

dont let dh/dk/evokers fool you

[barren coral]

arcane mage is genuinely disgusting in PVE

like ive never cared for pve nerfs until ive seen arcane mage past few weeks

clogging up my details

every single time

[tardy lark]

yeah better give fury another 3% nerf

[radiant plank]

Sounds right

[trail bane]

Why are they nerfing fury another 2%? Isnt our single target bad enough?

[stuck axle]

Blibli : "Mage are way above ? Ok let's nerf something on warrior"

[unborn notch]

Gone?

Where did it go? They ain't Left

[barren coral]

in pvp at least, solo shuffle had 1 mage every queue now i see it every 4th

maybe just lucky

[unborn notch]

Sorry I only mythic+

[barren coral]

tried m+ like 3 times, when making my own group i just sat alone for an hour each time and delisted

[crisp prism]

i see an evoker every single que and a mage every 2nd que

[barren coral]

on my main i managed to get into a few groups bc im outgearing +3s, but cant seem to get any playtime

[unborn notch]

Are you referring to keys?

[rain cloud]

Where did you read that?

[barren coral]

yes, on main ive timed every dung +3 except grim and still nobody joins my groups, and not just me

whenever i apply to a dps only group, I've never managed to see a healer or tank joining

[sand crest]

can anyone bless me with myth track weapon or sacbrood from vault?

[vestal root]

lol

lmao even

crit vers ring it is

[sand crest]

: (

[unborn notch]

Not to be rude but in the grand scheme +3 is nothing
The best thing you can do as a dps is push your own key, make friends and be kind

[barren coral]

dont think you're rude but you're not reading what im saying here, ive waited a cummulated total of 4 hours without finding a single healer/tank above 580 that applied to my groups

[unborn notch]

I just can't believe that

[tardy lark]

If yhou want to play, invite them

beggars cant be choosers

[radiant plank]

why do they need to be above 580 for a +3

[unborn notch]

When I list +2s I get multiple applications in first few mins unless it's Siege then 1 ragnaros player applies and that's it

[barren coral]

so i can time it, last time i picked someone bad, not even bad ilvl just clearly not someone who had brain activity he lost the dps race to our tank

[unborn notch]

When your key is higher you can be more picky with who you inv

[opaque solstice]

guys how big is the fury nerf coming? are they gonna fall big down the pecking order? was rlly thinking about leveling my fury warr then saw the nerfd

[unborn notch]

Tough shit but you just gotta deal with it in low keys

Low keys are harder than higher(7-9)

[sand crest]

if ur talking about the soft cap nerf on of and roar, its not a big deal

[unborn notch]

Invite the stinky people and when you have a higher key you won't have to invite them

[opaque solstice]

no im talking about ability damage nerf and target cap changes

not sure if its out yet or if its 10.0.5

[unborn notch]

It won't matter for you

Just play fury and have fun

[sand crest]

the 3% aura nerf is already out and fury is still good

[cyan epoch]

Had my key bricked from 11 to 8 and I took my time to invite people, sometimes it's just not the right day

[sand crest]

and as I said soft cap nerf dfoesnt matter

[tardy lark]

it obviously does, but its not like its gonna be night and day

[cyan epoch]

||hate arcane and prot war pugs||

[unborn notch]

It won't matter to most players who miss globals and die to not using defensives

Which is many

[night cedar]

Hi. Should i delay avatar dragon roar and reckless for like.. 10/15secs if odyn come back?

[gaunt moat]

It's cool that they nerf Grim Barol but when will they bug fix it there are so many bugs adds changing target randomly on second boss the big add doing the laser casting his spell but you don't see the cast and get hit by it instantly are the two bricking keys

[tardy lark]

in the grand scheme no, but for the 2 globals they manage to hit, its a pretty big nerf

[sand crest]

I might be wrong on this but I would assume that the soft cap only applies to the initial dmg of OF and roar, as if you apply the bleed to 100 targets, it will tick for full dmg, and the bleed is the major part of both of those spells

[unborn notch]

Fair enough cuz fury is giga bursty

[barren coral]

if thats true then that nerf would be meaningless

[vestal root]

i still think its a shit nerf

they should revert it

keep fury as it is imo

[sand crest]

they should revert the 3% aura as well

[vestal root]

its just a kneejerk reaction due to raid that is all

[sand crest]

blizz makes raid encounters that fit perfectly into fury's short cds

nerf hammer it in 2 seconds

[vestal root]

WOAH WTF CLASS THAT CAN DO X THING IS GOOD AT ENCOUNTERS WITH X THING??!!!

crazy...

[barren coral]

thats not exactly a bad thing, whichever reason why fury is good doesnt matter as long as its good

but his strengths dont follow in mythic raid

[cunning karma]

Hey, guys. Could you tell me why everybody's crafting a sword and not an axe? Doesn't spell damage depend on the weapon's top damage?

[sand crest]

and due to it being a timing thing on adds, nerfing fury dmg was never going to make us worse than another spec in those scenarios anyway

I just dont get it

[vestal root]

reminder that DH does the same thing

and it wont get nerfed because "uhhh its hardest melee spec it deserves to be good"

[gaunt moat]

Costs less money

[sand crest]

there is no shot hdh is the hardest melee spec

[vestal root]

inertia for sure is

i think people didnt play it since bfa and dont know how fucked the class is now

[sand crest]

arent enh and ww both harder?

m,aybe not since tww

[vestal root]

i think enh is crazy proc and apm but not "hard"

[calm quartz]

Ww is pretty easy now

[tardy lark]

i dont think any melee spec compares to optimal fury ST

[unborn notch]

Havoc is hard to not die on

[vestal root]

ww got reworked in tww no?

[gaunt moat]

I play enh aoe is big brain but st is pure 1 iq

[unborn notch]

Fury st is hard?

[tardy lark]

optimally yeah

[unborn notch]

I'm not too familiar 😞

[sand crest]

compared to just spamming rampage in DF, full ST fury is defo harder in tww

many things toi juggle/think about

[tardy lark]

the most egregious parts are left out of standard APL

[gaunt moat]

Enh st is literally you got 5 maelstrom? Send thunder you got lucky and this thunder gave you 10 maelstrom? Send thunder

You're under ascendance? Windstrike and thunder

[barren coral]

what are main things that would be hard to optimize?

genuinely asking im new to warr

[gaunt moat]

Fury st isn't really hard either the main thing is how you can make your rage generation optimal with raging blow

[tardy lark]

Opportunist is annoying, Marked for Execution is pretty confusing, Slaughtering Strikes is an essentially untrackable headache

Rage thresholds for when to BB and when not to along with crit chance

[sand crest]

raging blow instead of ramp above 80 rage and below 100, rampage instead of BB in reck and above 100 rage, when to send execute (3 marks, keeping up ahsen jugg)

[tardy lark]

its just a boatload of variables making it near impossible to play optimally

[sand crest]

yup

[tardy lark]

so most of the minor gains are left out in favor of opportunist being the biggest one

[naive swallow]

what weap enchant u guys go for in M+?

[sand crest]

depths

[naive swallow]

what about artistry , the one giving mastery?

[sand crest]

mostly cause I dont wanna keep changing them around

[barren coral]

is it not a flowchart based on your current available options like most easier specs?

[naive swallow]

like 8% ish is it not comparable?

is the depths dot applied in multitarget , like few of them gets the dot when i OF / ww?

[sand crest]

nah u can only have one target with depths at a time

[tardy lark]

it kinda is

[gaunt moat]

Yes it's a priority least based on which context you're in

[naive swallow]

not even if i constantly tab target no ?

i dont raid that often

[sand crest]

if u dont rly raid depths might not be the best then

ig radiant power is the go to after depths but unsure

[naive swallow]

ye that's what i been considering , usually stats work best for me

but thanks

[ornate gust]

Never knew we ramp instead of bloodbsth in reck 🤕

[sand crest]

only at 100 rage or above

[tardy lark]

its optimal to do so

[sand crest]

and then again its a minor optimization

[tardy lark]

but in reality, just send DF S3 rotation and you're mostly good

[ornate gust]

I press the buttons at the same sequence from the start to the end 🤣

[tardy lark]

let me just macro entire bloodlust sequence

[sand crest]

wasnt that an actual thing in df?

[tardy lark]

so happy annihilator died

[sand crest]

xD

[tardy lark]

yes

[sand crest]

wdym, you dont like the riveting rotation, BB >BB > BT?

[trail bane]

What Mark of Execution/Sudden Death/Ashen Juggernaut weakaura do you guys use?

Im getting tired of my weakaura not alerting me if i dont have ashen juggernaut talented...

[sand crest]

I just made my own with premade icon

[trail bane]

Not even for sudden death or mark of execution, but it alerts for them if i have ashen talented

[sand crest]

now thats another issue

why would u not have ashen jugg talented in ST

[trail bane]

Im not only playing ST

[sand crest]

dont you have multiple talent pages?

[trail bane]

So if im playing a cleave fight where i dont have ashen talented, i would still want to have a sound played when im at 2 sudden death stacks or 3 mark of execution

Or when sudden death is about to fall off

[tardy lark]

people not using talent loadout ex

[unborn notch]

[trail bane]

My current weakaura does all that, but only if i have ashen talented. And then it also alerts if ashen is about to fall off

[unborn notch]

I change my one tree everytime

[tardy lark]

Cone already made one

[ornate gust]

To be honest, in those fight you want to send execute most often to have bladestorm ready for the next pack of adds.

[tardy lark]

you can just make a copy of it, remove the AJ condition and load condition and make the opposite true

[trail bane]

To be honest, i want to optimizie how much bladestorm cdr i get while not sending a bunch of executes with no cdr

There can be cases where i have 0 mark for execution, send a sudden death execute, get 3 stacks of mark for execution and no sudden death procs and suddenly i might be wasting mark for execution procs

[south kayak]

bozo shit

[graceful ruin]

can warr somehow cancel dark exile?

on the last boss of necrotic

[trail bane]

warlock gateway

dont know any other way

[tardy lark]

you can leap it

[trail bane]

really?

[tardy lark]

yessir

[trail bane]

that sounds stupid but ill have to try it next time im there

:D

[south kayak]

you will die within a min I htink

think

if you do that

[tardy lark]

yes

[sand crest]

the best tech is taunt > die > instant cr

[south kayak]

-15 sec bozo

[tardy lark]

im a "stand in swirly" conisseur

[south kayak]

i'm already standing in them

[unborn notch]

Wait dying to avoid exile is crazy tech

[sand crest]

if u deplete nw by 15 sec there were probably oither issues

[unborn notch]

That's sick

[south kayak]

I know

I'm joking lmao

[sand crest]

ik x)

its unironically a tech

you can also intervene the tank instead of taunt

[tardy lark]

gotta havec that stormbolt for extra DPS during BS

[sand crest]

thats by far the best fury tech of tww

[unborn notch]

Ty for the insight

[pearl sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-vault-vaulttime-bisous-falkou-gif-3177788395265298759

[sand crest]

if not everyone has cds on pull of last boss in nw, the best tech is to have the 2nd downstairs person suicide it and lust once theyre cr'd, so u have lust for the 1st person who went down and has 100% crit chance buff

[pearl sequoia]

as a follower of crip mac i cannot commit suicide, sorry

[hardy cargo]

Idk if it’s been changed but I know in shadowlands, you still get the debuff that kills you after ~50 seconds

So he prepared for death if boss doesn’t die

[unborn notch]

In this season you're always lusting stichflesh no?

[sand crest]

ye not lusting 3rd boss is defo trolling

[fervent yoke]

Hey fury chads which alts / other specs have you been enjoying? About to start my alt

[golden hare]

[sand crest]

prot warr and outlaw rogue

although havent played outlaw in tww yet but in df it was awesome

[desert cloud]

U just leap in time instead of allat

[sand crest]

sure but the leap timing is harder than just taunting boss

[spark goblet]

Is the fury m+ that bad?

[sand crest]

that bad? fury is great in m+

[spark goblet]

Anyone know where to check which dps how performs

[desert cloud]

U will be outdpsed by a pala a dk a mage a rogue a tank sometimes

[fervent yoke]

If you want meta go dk mage or Aug evoker

[spark goblet]

nah a love fury

just want to see how it is

[fervent yoke]

Why is paladin consistently strong and has 20yd range but they get no nerfs

[spark goblet]

i playing prot in m+

[fervent yoke]

And have all the utility

[molten wing]

i'm gonna start my Shadowlands old tradition of tweeting Ion every day for nerfs until they happen

ret just sitting there casually spamming 2 buttons

[livid crag]

How do you track marked for execution? Or does it not matter?

[thick fossil]

Man, that is such a degen move. I like it, but not accepting it.

[barren coral]

for the spelunker gear, why is there an NPC that lets you trade that token for an exclusively worse piece of gear

almost didnt notice

[pearl sequoia]

theres WA's out there

[thick fossil]

Plater add on will show it over your targets.

[sand crest]

im just putting out there, im not acceping it either x)

[pearl sequoia]

i see it on my plaater so i dont personally track it through WA

[livid crag]

Is there a plater add on that adds a border to the health bar?

[pearl sequoia]

Uh alot of plater profiles usually haave that

[thick fossil]

You can even set it up to only show certain things.

[slow wadi]

I have ara and skar's trinket at 613. I have 4 set and 619 weps. No sockets. My current average in a 7+ is 920k. What should it be?

I am ilevel 613 avg

[fervent yoke]

Ret is crazy and has a 20yd range

Such bs

[slow wadi]

My Ret friend normally hit 1.3 mil average

[heavy dock]

Do they still just hit everything from 20 yds?

[fervent yoke]

Ye

[heavy dock]

Lol

[fervent yoke]

Ret / DK is the meta

But we are the real chads

[fathom wolf]

Feels real bad when you go into a pull with no CDs and do less dmg than a tank in a 10.

[slow wadi]

Same

[molten wing]

honestly makes me wanna try AM

but i know it will do DOGSHIT dmg to bosses

probably outside too

[rose locust]

what does this proc mean in fury?

[molten wing]

it shows you that you can rampage

[barren coral]

why is his proc looking so juicy

mine is greyed out

[rose locust]

ohh just that and i was looking for buffs going out the same time this goes out

[teal pine]

Spell alert opacity option in settings

[barren coral]

thanks

[quick zodiac]

Impossible to say so many factors that can change that

Depends on pull size, how much dmg your other dps is doing etc or if it is a 3chest 2 chest or 1chest

So much stuff to consider hehe

[gaunt moat]

i miss am so much i hope it'll be playable with thane if they buff its single target someday next expansion maybe

[opaque cypress]

does enrage from OF apply to OF dmg?

[eternal sundial]

Yes

[hazy plinth]

What's the current concensus on set bonus vs raw stats?

[eternal sundial]

Set+sim

[hazy plinth]

Thanks. Haven't had the time to sim out everything individually

[dense elbow]

Wouldn't suprise me of set (4) loses to ilvl

[hazy plinth]

Well there's the higher ilvl set pieces, but they also have some disgusting stat spread on them.

[eternal sundial]

Remember there's 5 and you can skip 1

[oblique trail]

The stats on an item does not really matter that much

[near wing]

Definitely remember this, because I didn’t and grabbed boots like an idiot

[hazy plinth]

Fortunately for me all of my 616 vault drops have had a set piece

[eternal sundial]

I just ripped 2 tier tokens + 2 cata +1 ksm

Got all 5 we coo

[dense elbow]

I got the mast token and cata, next week I will be closer to (4)

[fervent yoke]

How do pallies do more damage than us have all the utility and 20yd melee range?

[eternal sundial]

Tuning

[dense elbow]

We beat em on prio dam by quite the margin tho, so it ain't as grim as overall make it look

[hazy plinth]

We aren't allowed to be top, so we got nerfed. lol

[fervent yoke]

Yeah true I guess

[dense elbow]

We take the small wind we can get

[fervent yoke]

Idc about top but for not bringing much to groups we should be top 5 in raids and m plus just saying. DKs are and have a lot of utility too

[eternal sundial]

Dk famous raidbuff

[fervent yoke]

Or maybe I’m just being a warr fanboy

[eternal sundial]

Very likely

[dense elbow]

What we often forget, are the 20 specs beneath us. Instead we look at the 5 above

[hazy plinth]

Warrior has always lacked in pure utility, so if we aren't bringing the damage we get shafted from groups.

[sour stirrup]

Bout time warr got a BL

[hazy plinth]

Too many xpacs I could never get a group.

[eternal sundial]

Wouldnt matter

[fervent yoke]

The 7 beneath us*

[dense elbow]

We are close to unkillable, SR cheezes a lot of annoying healer mechanics, we so great boss dam

[dense elbow]

We are in the top 50, most of those score lads are not

[hazy plinth]

Too many major fights that force warrior to disengage from the boss while ranged classes keep laying it on.

[dense elbow]

The point system is silly

[eternal sundial]

That's not any issue xd?

War smokes all raid aoe

[hazy plinth]

Oh in AOE absolutely.

[eternal sundial]

And if you aoe on a boss

Then you cant st

[hazy plinth]

Just love doing princess and watching the locks just stacking dots and I'm playing hokey pokey.

[eternal sundial]

Then go arms there

If you wanna do more

[dense elbow]

I like HC princess, it is a fun fight

[tardy lark]

its so short

[dense elbow]

Worst fight is Silkarn, so much downtime potentially

[eternal sundial]

Stop sounding like my gf

[tardy lark]

same bro

[hazy plinth]

Look at this guy with a girlfriend.

[sour stirrup]

You guys are also short tempered?

[hazy plinth]

We are warriors.... we have anger issues.

[dense elbow]

I am calm as long the Devs don't ruin OF

(they have attacked it since it was great on beta)

[safe cradle]

I feel like I’m swinging a pool noodle when I’m outside of my cooldown burst

Maybe I’m just doing it wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

[modest condor]

dude i love pool noodles

[safe cradle]

Okay here’s a question, if I am enraged but rampage isn’t next on prio list do I just overcap on rage or hit it to not overcap

[dense elbow]

Our outside burst AoE is alright. Still around the 2mill mark, while we burst 5-10
Can't get both tho, and burst is more fun

[safe cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-sith-anakin-vader-darth-vader-gif-19644107

[dense elbow]

Overcap rage if needed, send CB. You ramp to CB, not CB to ramp

[hazy plinth]

I mean so long as enrage is up I still feel pretty solid. If for some reason I get a string of really bad RNG and enrage is down it feels bad. But for the most part it's not bad. (Also it's a placebo effect but how you mog your weapons changes the sfx of your hits)

[orchid dagger]

This is why staff mogs are secret bis

[safe cradle]

I must be doing something incredibly wrong then if you’re bursting up to 5-10 mil or maybe I am and not looking at details until it falls off quickly

[dense elbow]

It falls off real quick, and it is all gear and pull dependint

You will know if you are on voice, cause the Ret will go all "so fucking op" even as he trashes you on overall

Proof that moment of glory matters

[safe cradle]

I feel like a good frost dk pumps too

Effortlessly

[hushed ocean]

real warrior issue is : u pop all cd into a 5 adds pack in MM+, doing 3m5 damages, dying from melee cuz aggro is a thing, and be a wet noodle for the next 90 seconds, while Ret and DK can do 5m, without aggro issue, on each pack.

[safe cradle]

And their 4p is one of the best in the game

[hazy plinth]

I think we shine in moments where a small group of something needs to die fast. Like Bloodbound add phase is a great example.

[safe cradle]

True same w rash and brood adds

[tired brook]

is target cap change pushed this week or later

[dense elbow]

NW 1st and 2nd boss, Mist 1st and 3rd, grim batol 2nd and last. We shine on a lot of fights overall this season

[hushed ocean]

GB 2nd ?

[dense elbow]

Anniversary patch, so later

[tired brook]

🙏

[plucky ice]

3-4 weeks to nerf lmao

[hazy plinth]

Forgemaster is a bastard, but if tank can keep him out of fire the mobility helps.

[south kayak]

Can you need on 1h weapons or shield if you're specced to prot but not actually prot?

[safe cradle]

For bosses that have adds that we can blow up in palace, do you hold your avatar for them or send it and hold of + bs

[short silo]

yes

[dense elbow]

1oo% uptime boss, with no DPS drop. But I meant bomber boy and last

[tired brook]

can need on them as fury specced fury

just shows as off spec

[south kayak]

Still shows as offspec?

so I can't win it if there's tanks needing it?

or shields

[tired brook]

i’d assume not

[south kayak]

ok

[hazy plinth]

And Shaman just won the tank shield /s

[dense elbow]

Wait, fury can't need 1handers?

Blizz plz

[hazy plinth]

fury can absolutely need on 1h

[tired brook]

first week of raid release 8/8N and 3/8H the only loot i got was one hand and shield from final boss as a fury main

(:

[short silo]

Is Bloodmallet/Raidbots up to date with the new trinket tunings?

anyone knows?

[dense elbow]

You won em greed rolls that won you your path forward

[hazy plinth]

You'd be a dick to need on a 1h over someone who actually needs it though.

[tired brook]

i doubt it

[hazy plinth]

SMF just doesn't have enough bonuses to make up for the loss in pure strength.

[dense elbow]

Usually is, check their build of it was updated

[tired brook]

smf 300% buff when

[dense elbow]

When the 1h legendary drops

[hazy plinth]

The fact that you need to reallocate a talent point to make 1handers even remotely usable just sucks.

[dense elbow]

You don't have to, you can just not spend the point there - instead take the 0.3% DPS increase from bloodcraze or something

[hazy plinth]

uh huh....

[lapis shadow]

Maybe large request... But does anyone have the list of crafted items for simming?

[dense elbow]

For what it does - it do be efficient

[oblique trail]

You can add them at the top of the page in Top Gear, underneath your currency like Valorstones

[lapis shadow]

oo

[gloomy notch]

Just curious if anyone uses any macros for their dps rotation and if so what are those macros to spam a few casts?

[hazy plinth]

Dude blacksmithing provisioner requests are getting starting to get stupid. "Make me an 20Kg set of leg plates, you provide all the mats. I'll give a little but of AAq"

like gtfo

[lapis shadow]

simple opener, after charging

includes recklessness and avatar and thunderous roar

[hazy plinth]

Yeah I have a similar macro. Also pops trinkets if I have on use trinkets.

Though might have to hit it more than once to get over GCD

[lapis shadow]

Yes precisely, that aswell

[hazy plinth]

And Blood Fury (Orc Racial)

Lol I think that Macro has been going (edited many times) since Vanilla.

[molten wing]

@oblique trail i've been wondering , what's the thing with Powerful/Frenzied Enrage especially in M+ , both sim really close but it feels like Powerful has the better burst out of the two

i'm seeing people play both so i guess it comes down to preference

[lost saffron]

Who plays frenzied enrage?

xD

[warm crag]

Tell me benzai

[calm quartz]

Critcake plays frenzied

[barren coral]

powerful is ass

[modest condor]

powerful is for psychos

[barren coral]

additional dmg is not as good as increased

[frail trout]

What's wrong with powerful enrage

[gloomy notch]

Okay cool that’s currently my hat I am doing as well is charge, CDs, Roar and then I have another for large packs that also adds bladestorm.

[modest condor]

it's slow as fuck

[lost saffron]

Oh powerful is ass

[modest condor]

imagine playing with 20% haste

ewwww

[frail trout]

Meh I tried frost dk

[barren coral]

you lose flat 15% haste for a very dim damage bonus

[lost saffron]

Imagine not having 35% haste

Baseline

[frail trout]

Their globals are slower

[molten wing]

honestly i've been slacking on M+ so only now i've tried doing a bit more and damn does fury feel awful during that period where your cds are down and you are just waiting for them to be back up again

[lost saffron]

Didgusting

[hazy plinth]

I tend to keep bladestorm separate from the macro because I want a touch more control.

[frail trout]

Are they that close in aoe? Maybe in push keys stuff lives for a while but in weekly keys 15% is a lot for bladestorm/ odyns fury in the life of a trash pack

[barren coral]

its not 15% increased, its 15% additional

the numbers dont really change much

[modest condor]

what

it's 15% multiplicative

[frail trout]

This isn't Poe there aren't that many multipliers for your damage even if you were correct (referring to copes post)

[modest condor]

your odyns and bladestorm straight up to 15% more damage with powerful than with frenzied

[frail trout]

Increased wouldn't have been awful vs multiplicative

[hazy plinth]

I think it really comes down to the fight/gear/stats. Powerful Enrage is good if maintaining rage uptime is important.

[barren coral]

its good to make vague strong statements so people actually start answering your question

ive been looking for an answer to this since yesterday

best i've found is that powerful enrage moves my rampage max damage tooltip from 1.7 to 1.8, which doesnt seem like much cmopared to losing 15% haste

[oblique trail]

Idk about m+ honestly in depth, I've tried both but don't notice too much difference, but for raid powerful is just better for burst aoe where it matters

[frail trout]

I don't think I will ever not play powerful enrage in keys because I only do weekly keys but in raid I will defer to what's needed

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[hazy plinth]

I'd love to pick the brain of someone like Rikusson because I've played with some of his specs. But would love to know the specific logic to the different builds and how he uses them.

[coarse nest]

I specifically run haste enrage in raid because not having haste feels turboass

[molten wing]

was wondering for powerful as well since , Archi put Frenzied in the recommended builds for Rashan , Ovi'nax etc

where it would kind of make sense you want powerful since its burst aoe when the adds come on those fights

[dense elbow]

Rashsan is a ST fight,wdum

[frail trout]

I have a feeling that by the time my guild gets to ansurek (a long ass time) I'll probably just be playing frenzied there? The adds are going to implode with whatever % buff exists in that time

[coarse nest]

I will run powerful on brood though probably since burst AoE matters more there

[frail trout]

Or maybe at that point playing arms will be the answer when it's that "nerfed"

[oblique trail]

Frenzied for Broodtwister imo was the play after having used it for a while, if add damage was a struggle for you

Since it'd allow Reck to consistently be up for all add packs

[hazy plinth]

Like #1 world first Fury warrior is running Powerful Enrage. And those guys run stats like nasa engineers.

[barren coral]

could raidbots give a good answer at least for ST?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[oblique trail]

They ran multiple builds at the same time

[tardy lark]

Less so than you think

[oblique trail]

On Broodtwister some ran RA, while others ran AM

[molten wing]

pure ST frenzied sims a bit higher for me

[oblique trail]

As an example

[tardy lark]

Week 1 broodtwister was a tightrope of boss damage and killing spiders before tanks died

[frail trout]

I'm imagining that when my guild reaches these tough bosses the raid % buff will be so high that adds are going to just evaporate

I'll cross that bridge when my guild gets there but I might be playing frenzied

[meager void]

There's always nuance per fight (even per pull) on some of the talents.
Thats why Archi has an entire section on what talents could be theorically swapped per scenario.

[molten wing]

yeah more or less same for me @frail trout

i was mostly wondering what could i do to optimize my M+ setup

[barren coral]

how close are they?

[molten wing]

so i'm not sitting there crying myself between CDs doing tank dmg watching rets dks rogues etc have fun

[barren coral]

if theyre really close id just stick to frenzied for how much better it feels

[frail trout]

I have a hard time not seeing powerful enrage ahead in m+ when your tank is doing coordinated big pulls

Defer to sims probably

[frail trout]

They aren't even that far apart on ST so you aren't making some big sacrifice to unlock that burst potential

Just sim on ST and you'll see what I mean

[molten wing]

powerful vs frenzied with the ST setup

[pearl sequoia]

I guess powerful loses some value with the upcoming nerfs

[dense elbow]

Yep, this be true

[meager void]

You'd be much better served by polishing when to send CDs than by adjusting 0.1% of your dmg profile

[molten wing]

it doesn't help when i'm also pugging my 8-9s so the tanks are not doing big pulls

so i either hold cds forever or send full cds for a pack of 3-4 mobs and then he pulls a pack of 5-6

[meager void]

Its easy to blame tanks who, yes, have the fault a lot of times.

[dense elbow]

Just send it, overall matter more

[meager void]

But there's a lot of details behind measuring when to send CDs on m+ and it requires a lot of knowledge on routes too.

[barren coral]

just send them when the dude who's chiefing #1 spot on details sends them

[meager void]

If you have trouble with how tanks pulled but dont even have mdt installed, you kinda part of the problem too.

[analog rivet]

so gear a-rang now even better?

[dense elbow]

Don't use it, it is a feels bad trinky

[molten wing]

more often than not its ret , so i send them ruin his burst but then he has his burst back in 30 secs

[weary sail]

wow didnt know pally was the most popular class, i figured it would be druid

[barren coral]

half of druid playerbase is multiboxers

[weary sail]

i thought ele shaman were famous for multiboxer

[dense elbow]

We see 1 druid, but behind every druid is 12 more flying in the same pixel

[pearl sequoia]

11.1 % gold farmers very nice

[hazy plinth]

Paladin is a classic class, and it fills most roles.

[weary sail]

rogue is a lot less popular than i thought

[low folio]

plus ret has a lot more people playing it after is rework at the end of DF

[pearl sequoia]

really showws the age demographic of the playerbase, because rogue is a 12 year olds wet dream

[dense elbow]

Nah, DK

[hazy plinth]

Rogue is a high skill floor, I personally also don't find it fun to play.

[pearl sequoia]

DK is a teenagers wet dream

maximum edge

[dense elbow]

Who wants to play the stealth class, in a game you can't stealth...

[low folio]

rogue is like the pvp class and pvp is dead

[hazy plinth]

For me Warrior has been just fun to play since Lich King.

Was definitely a slog in Vanilla/BC

[dense elbow]

Rogue fantasy just doesn't work in wow. There are no stealth GamePlay, no pickpocketing, traps or trapdisarments. It is a warrior world. You go in and spin

A combat rogue, is just a warrior in denial

[barren coral]

it feels pretty cool to do rumors as rogue

nobody plays rogue bc rogue plays like shit nowadays

[dense elbow]

I don't even know what that is

[barren coral]

but .5 will fix a lot of complaints

[barren coral]

mini quests in the nerubian city where you have to dodge guards and such

[pearl sequoia]

yea but you get stealth anyway from the little spider dude

[dense elbow]

They prob should allow for more things where rogue stealth ahead and do stuff in dungs. Fulfilling their fantasy.
Currently they are basically dagger warriors

[barren coral]

honestly removing vanish from offensive rota is already a huge step in the right direction

[pearl sequoia]

well they can distract mob patrols cant they

[weary sail]

no shot lol, rogue is for old boomers

DKs / DHs are def more for the zoomers

[dense elbow]

Rogue is not cool anymore

[barren coral]

very self aware saying that as a fury warrior of all things

[edgy widget]

fluctuates a bit with gear - that gap is much larger than mine

[forest owl]

i like dh's tbh, especially when they fel rush off the edge of a boat in dawnbreaker

[pearl sequoia]

how would being a warrior be a childs dream, quite boring class fantasy wise

you guys must of have bad childhoods

[weary sail]

DH design is just cool af imo

[barren coral]

kids love playing zug zug with big weapons and cool armor

[pearl sequoia]

[edgy widget]

almost like different people are attracted to different things 🤔

[fervent yoke]

Surv Hunter is underrated in the cool dept

[weary sail]

what kind of childhood did u have to fantasize about being a rogue in a video games then lol

[fervent yoke]

You get bombs and a harpoon

[low folio]

idk being just some dude strong enough to cleave magical monsters in two is pretty cool

[pearl sequoia]

dude i was a way cooler child then u

im sick

[weary sail]

thematically fury warrior is cool af

[pearl sequoia]

im slick

[weary sail]

so is DH

[edgy widget]

feels like you got it right the first time 😷

[barren coral]

I think if rogue gets a rework for their stupid "mini cooldowns" to be passive or removed outright, vanish gets removed from offensive use, and then sin can move faster than a turtle, the class will see play again

[weary sail]

rework one of the rogue specs to be range, flinging daggers when

[dense elbow]

Some ppl like knights and samurai, others love rogues and ninja. Then you got the Roman enjoyers - parading in formation in Storm Wind

Prob one kid out there wanting to be an all powerful mage, but we don't speak of that. Why cast fire, when stick?

[pearl sequoia]

you like to talk about kids dont you

[sinful spoke]

A warriors death is every mans dream

Being in full plate armor with big sword is peak fantasy

[pearl sequoia]

after switching to axes from swords i like the sound more actually

more thud

[sinful spoke]

🤓

Akschually

🤓 ☝️

[pearl sequoia]

what

[edgy widget]

ok sorry, but you're acting weird and I don't want to hear from you anymore

[barren coral]

my warrior is fighting with the nintendo switches

seriously what kind of color palette even is this

[restive peak]

What is this guy going on about? If you saw Troy and didn’t want to be Achilles idk what to even say to you

Warrior class fantasy BIS

[vocal siren]

Thats funny cuz Achilles was a little whiny bitch that caused the Greeks to waste years and years because of his temper tantrum

if ur talking the movie, then i forgot what happened in it but Hector was always more badass.

[pearl sequoia]

He also died to ranged mechanics (noob)

[restive peak]

Hector such a badass after getting giga dumpstered and dragged around dead

Absolutely mogged 1 on 1

https://tenor.com/view/troy-bolton-gif-9340201

[vocal siren]

I mean, that shows how cruel and callous Achilles is. It doesnt really reflect on Hector at all

[restive peak]

Nah he just didn’t care about things he didn’t need to, hyper focused on what mattered to him

Big respect

[vocal siren]

Also, easy to be a "badass" when you literally are invincible except one spot

[restive peak]

He didn’t know he was because he never lost

Can’t find out you’re immortal if you never lose

[vocal siren]

Brother is a demi god fighting mortals

and you think its a fair playing field

smh

[restive peak]

Hector a badass

[vocal siren]

its like a 30 year old fighting against 5 year olds

[restive peak]

[vocal siren]

are you basing your entire knowledge off the movie or what

[restive peak]

Excuses on excuses, guys the goat

[vocal siren]

because Hector was one of the most respected and renowned men in that time

man the quality of SF has really dipped since I was one smh

[restive peak]

In his city*

If you can watch Troy and that lion speech and not get chills…idk, I think you’re the one of low quality

[dim pecan]

Brad pitt opens the movie by sprinting past a giant dude, jumps in the air and does a 180 to kill him

Argument over

[restive peak]

^

[vocal siren]

I mean, if you want to just enjoy a dumb movie, Troy is great for that

but lets not pretend its a proper adaptation lol

[dim pecan]

Exactly

[edgy widget]

and Menelaus wasn't?

[restive peak]

Imagining calling it a dumb movie because you like Hector and he got smoked

And there is no proper adaptation, there was no demi god

[edgy widget]

There's always Total War: Troy

[restive peak]

All made up stories are adaptations

LOL

[vocal siren]

?

Brother I read the illiad, i know Hector was going to lose

[restive peak]

You do know Achilles wasn't real, yeah?

Or are you under the assumption a demi-god named Achilles was a living, breathing man who got killed only by an arrow to the achilles tendon?

[vocal siren]

i meant an adaptation of the Illiad you moron

[edgy widget]

ok kids, calm down

[restive peak]

Calling me a moron while pretending Hector and Achilles fight was a real event

[vocal siren]

please utilize your brain cells and understand that critical thinking 101 is an expectation

literally never said that?

[dim pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/its-still-real-to-me-gif-12446406

[restive peak]

Yeah, you're trolling for sure man.

[edgy widget]

me fr

[dim pecan]

lol

[restive pewter]

look what happens when the server is down

[edgy widget]

no joke

[restive pewter]

nothing good

[restive peak]

Stone Cold Steve Austin really just smashes beers and beats women too, what a gem

[edgy widget]

Warriors gotta fight one another

[vocal siren]

@edgy widget who the fuck are u allowing to be SF nowadays

lmao

[restive peak]

But fr give me vault man

[edgy widget]

no offense but you're not exactly coming off on the high road here

[dim pecan]

Brak, you got to chill for a bit

[restive peak]

"I argued about a fake story not being real enough and IT'S HIS FAULT FOR NOT AGREEING"

Like really man

[vocal siren]

brother

[edgy widget]

taking a very "um achtkually" stance to the fucking illiad and arguing over who is prettier

[vocal siren]

what is this false narrative that you're running with

[restive pewter]

theres nothing to bladestorm so we bladestorm each others feelings

[hasty pagoda]

Achilles MVP the end

[restive pewter]

sadgies

[chrome plover]

real 😔

[restive peak]

Surely I'm about to loot a nice mythic sac

We are excited

(My vault will be bracers)

[hasty pagoda]

3 cloak 3 bracers, gg wp

[restive pewter]

im looking forward to my myth transmitter

[restive peak]

As long as 1 of the cloaks is a mythic rasha 1 that's k

[restive pewter]

did yall do the full 8 10s this week

my weak ass could only get one 👴

[restive peak]

Yeah except my alt, CBA

So we pray the 1 vault slot wins rng lottery

[chrome plover]

im so lazy ma

i gotta do 2 more tonight for my 2 slot vault

[restive pewter]

thats a turbo lottery brother

gl on that max win

[restive peak]

Honestly my alts usually win the lottery and my main gets dogwater

[pearl sequoia]

is it any slot can roll on delve loot or only the delve slots that can

[edgy widget]

I did like 45 keys last week

[wild mural]

I did 4 bosses on HC, 1 +9 and 1 tier 8 delve this week

[restive pewter]

45 is crazy

[wild mural]

(I got a water leak and I had to move out for the week)

[crisp bronze]

My luck ran out when I got a t3 haste corruption ring with a socket in nyalotha mythic

[edgy widget]

maxing delves is easy, just chain run Zekvir; each one counts as a +8

[restive pewter]

yeah thats what i did ^

[restive peak]

Oh god I've done 55 keys over 10 already

I've played too much

[wild mural]

I’m gonna get transmitter or sacbrood

I can feel it

[pearl sequoia]

it was in wow news so wont it get nerfed

lol

[wild mural]

Finally arms will be playable

[edgy widget]

transmitter 🤢

[restive peak]

Avoiding transmitter all season/10

[edgy widget]

how many keys are you total this season?

I think I'm at 97 lmao

[restive peak]

85 including low

29 5-9s 1 +2 LOL

[wild mural]

Atm I’m using mad queens mandate and skarmorak shard as arms

It’s horrible

[restive peak]

I have somehow still not seen skarm shard

[edgy widget]

mad queen is easy

[wild mural]

I keep fucking up the cd alignment with skarm by pressing mad queens at the wrong time

[restive peak]

I've done 13 SV 9-12s and zero skarm shards

Sadness

[warped bone]

Did 91 keys last week and on 45 now. I need to stop xD

[wild mural]

I just want my nutsac

[blissful mountain]

my endless arsenal & transmitter combo goes hard

[wild mural]

I’ve lost 2 hero track nutsacs

To rolls

[restive peak]

Nice thing about this season is once we get where we wanna be

It's over

No push weeks to stress etc

Honestly pretty sure all 13s will be title at this rate lol

[wild mural]

I might be able to get title then

[restive peak]

Like 11-12 jump is INSANE

14s are giga fuckin brutal

[restive pewter]

ksh title?

or something else

[restive peak]

No M+ title

[wild mural]

Loving my life in keys tho hardstuck tanking

[edgy widget]

for some reason raider.io doesn't show correctly for me; this is only half my keys

[vocal siren]

god

[restive peak]

Oh god imagine mine is only showing half

My wife is gonna kill me

[wild mural]

Which is why I haven’t done any 10s cause I am world #1 shittest tank

[edgy widget]

na yours looks correct

[vocal siren]

this just makes me want to actually get into a good guild

so i can actually run keys

but i dont wanna get sucked back into this shit

[restive pewter]

just play casually if u wanna play casually then

[edgy widget]

like if you actually count the keys on my stats page, it adds up to 96, but for some reason the top bar only says ~55

[vocal siren]

its hard to play casually when the eye of the tiger still exists

[restive pewter]

ah

[vocal siren]

i still wanna be like, the best of the best

[restive peak]

I actually prefer this direction, you could play semi-casual to gear then just go HAM final month

But yeah, I get that

[vocal siren]

i shouldn't have come back 😦

[wild mural]

Mines a bit out I’ve done like 50 keys but it only says I’ve done like 35

[restive peak]

I'll either have to fully quit or remain this level of playtime

[chrome plover]

ive done like 6 lmao

[restive peak]

I can't do the middle ground thing

[forest owl]

if i were trying to sim gear/talents for a fight like m brood, what would be the settings in raidbots?

[vocal siren]

i literally got married last week

[chrome plover]

4 last week 2 this week

[vocal siren]

theres no way i can do a mythic schedule

[restive pewter]

congrats

[restive peak]

She's stuck, time to game

[vocal siren]

she plays fortnite, its okay

[restive pewter]

^

[vocal siren]

she's a gamer

[restive peak]

My wife plays solitaire and plants vs zombies

[vocal siren]

mine plays persona, fortnite and visual novels

[restive peak]

I wish mine would play a cool game, but c'est la vie

[chrome plover]

mine plays wow 😎

and raids with me

[restive pewter]

damn everyone here married?

jesus

[chrome plover]

ok she's not a wife yet

[edgy widget]

that was earlier this week, 92 lol

[restive pewter]

let me live

[chrome plover]

tbf

[vocal siren]

i also dont have relevant logs at all anymore

[wild mural]

No

[vocal siren]

last time i raided was mythic ghun

lmao

[wild mural]

I repel women

[vocal siren]

so its hard for me to get back to a mythic raiding place

[sinful spoke]

We know

[restive pewter]

here we go thats what i expect from wow players

[restive peak]

We must double warrior blender comp someday

[wild mural]

I’ll be alone forever and that’s okay

I have my arms warrior

[edgy widget]

only if you promise to play bad

[vocal siren]

maybe i should just link my old achievements and tell the guilds im good, trust me

who wants to be my reference

[restive peak]

Floor POV so I can watch the show boo

[edgy widget]

"were good"

[vocal siren]

listen

[blissful mountain]

wait yall get into keys? 👀

[vocal siren]

i dont know if im good or not unless i try

[restive pewter]

i just run my own

[vocal siren]

maybe im washed

maybe im not

i won't know unless im given a shot

[edgy widget]

trick is to either run your own or group with a tank/healer

[pearl sequoia]

@vocal siren back to farming heroic logs

[vocal siren]

yeah

ig

[edgy widget]

get some LFR hero logs, that's enough to app with

[vocal siren]

i randomly joined a 4/8 heroic guild lmao

[edgy widget]

the #s wont matter, but it'll at least show people you do/not know what you're doing

[vocal siren]

i feel like thats pretty low for me

[blissful mountain]

i think its just an ilvl issue currently

[vocal siren]

yeah

im just 611

[blissful mountain]

im almost done heroic raid

[vocal siren]

with uh, shitty statted gear

[median falcon]

trying to find a tank who isn't a total egomaniac whilst carrying their healer partner

[autumn mist]

can someone link me to the aoe warrior changes regarding target cap i wana see the wow/battle net post

[restive pewter]

even when ur ilvl gets high people wont take u unless ur jesus himself

gotta have crazy high io

[restive peak]

Honestly if you wanna climb, just pug heroic for logs

[vocal siren]

hey

are u NA

[restive pewter]

yea

[restive peak]

Then app to a mid tier mythic guild, this tier has rough bosses so a lot of people are gonna burnout

[vocal siren]

bring me to ur M+

[restive peak]

And have openings

[restive pewter]

arent we both warriors

wouldnt we just be griefing each others keys lmao

[vocal siren]

aren't u forced to tank

[restive pewter]

no

[vocal siren]

oh

[restive pewter]

i havent tanked once

[vocal siren]

nm

fuck off

jkjk

[restive pewter]

LOL

[vocal siren]

What's the site to check a character's progress/gear again

[restive pewter]

raiderio?

armory?

warcraftlogs

[wild plank]

More

[restive pewter]

im fresh out

[vocal siren]

its not raider.io but close enough

https://raider.io/characters/us/stormreaver/Brakthir

i have

so much vers

it makes me vomit

[restive pewter]

wclogs might be it

i see ur progression 👀

[vocal siren]

yeah

it was wclogs

my logs are trash atm dont look at it

[restive pewter]

i am perceiving you rn

[sick jungle]

yo lincc, how can I beat my ret buddy in m+

he press 1 button and dps go boom 😭

[restive pewter]

play fdk

thoughts

[sick jungle]

hmm

[restive peak]

Screenshot boss fights

There, you beat him smile

[sick jungle]

:D

[vocal siren]

man

all my parses from mists are gone

except SoO

[coarse nest]

LOL

[vocal siren]

what the hell 😦

[restive peak]

The actual answer is accept your role now, we're there to giga fuck every 1.5mins and do ST dmg

[sick jungle]

honestly I think I can beat him if I just use my CDs smarter

[restive peak]

It's possible, but overall isn't everything

[sick jungle]

i have it in my brain to not want to hold CDs but then I always find myself going 'god damn it I wish I held my CDs'

[coarse nest]

Use cds on the prio packs and you’ll time the key

Don’t worry about overall

[sick jungle]

I unironically haven't actually thought of that

I will try that tonight

[vocal siren]

there

i found my EN logs lmao

[restive pewter]

lets see em mr.pumper

[sick jungle]

i also have to item restore my ritual binding knife, maybe I should've simmed it before vendoring it xD

[vocal siren]

wait

where are my mythic logs

this is only heroic

[golden hare]

i ate them

[vocal siren]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormreaver/brakthir?zone=17#zone=10&partition=2

[golden hare]

nom nom

[coarse nest]

For lunch

And dinner

[vocal siren]

i wonder if all my Mythic logs for Legion are gone

maybe my guild just kept them private

[restive pewter]

when u apply to parties just put in your note that ur the goat of legion

thats what people do to me

[vocal siren]

actually if im the goat of anything

its cata and mists

i half assed legion

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormreaver/brakthir?zone=24#zone=19 can you see the exact moment of progression i realized wow was no longer for me?

[restive pewter]

ghuun made your motivation go sky huh

or was it mythrax

[vocal siren]

mythrax didnt help

ghun made me quit

[restive pewter]

ggs

[vocal siren]

and then i came back 2 weeks ago

its a long fucking break

[restive pewter]

yeah this is my first real xpac try harding

but i played casually most xpac since cata

just taking long ass fuckin breaks like u sayin

[pearl sequoia]

I take a break every xpac from wotlk, im getting pink parses in heroic to get into mythic, not too hard just have the gear and ur set

[restive pewter]

i gotta lock in for some pink parses

im a purple andy

[vocal siren]

i hated farm

i usually ghosted 2-3 months into end of expac raid farm

ghosted end of mists, GM never let me back into the guild when I came back

[restive pewter]

are mythic guilds really still looking for raiders? is it possible to pug mythic??

[pearl sequoia]

yea i pugged mythic in dragonflight

well technically was a guild run

[vocal siren]

alts of mythic raiders sometimes create mythic raids

[pearl sequoia]

but like 5 pugs

[vocal siren]

but they're pretty harsh on who they let in imo

atleast back in the day

[restive pewter]

did u have to raid with same group whole week?

how does the lockout work

[forest owl]

how would i sim a fight like m broodtwister? patchwerk 5t/8t?

[pearl sequoia]

was just a one time thing, cleared half the raid then ran out of time when we got to their prog boss

was quite nice being 3rd dps as a noob

[rocky creek]

once you down a boss you're locked to that raid id until reset

[vocal siren]

another hour and change right

[pearl sequoia]

Yea if blizzard doesnt extend the maintenance

[vocal siren]

i didnt miss this

[pearl sequoia]

the candy store will be open soon vibe

[fading summit]

lmao

[restive pewter]

type shit

[pearl crypt]

Yo fable tlc pfp thats wild

[restive pewter]

i remember being evil asf in that game

[pearl sequoia]

Yea evil is op af because of the berserk spell lol

[velvet canopy]

I remember trying so hard to get to the dragon area in the original Fable. There was no dragon area 😢

[torpid sand]

How long for server to be up again

I'm not in my PC

[pearl crypt]

There is

At least in tlc

Jack of blades still remains one of the best char designs eva

[vestal root]

is it me or is mage tower still scuffed?

[pearl crypt]

Cant post invite link but yes. Timewalking community has pinned post stating how all TW scaling is fucked

MT is also fucked

[ember apex]

why's it fucked

[pearl crypt]

Scaling is fucked, ur a lot weaker than ur meant to be

*scaling for TW is fucked across the board

[ember apex]

how do u outgear the bad scaling

[pearl crypt]

U dont

Blizz doesnt give a shit

[vestal root]

makes sense

[vocal siren]

i missed the fact they brought back MT

[pearl crypt]

Maybe with anniversary its gonna be fixed

[vocal siren]

but its for gear transmog, not artifact weapon right

[vestal root]

i can kinda live but damn the damage i do is pathetic

[ember apex]

they brought it back in shadowlands 9.1.5

[pearl crypt]

But at the same time, tw blasting is gonna be deadge

[vestal root]

i did it in DF s1 it was fine

[vocal siren]

as long as u can no longer get the artifact mogs

im good with it

earned that shit back in Legion

[vestal root]

they should bring it back too

[vocal siren]

be annoyed if they just started letting people get it again

[vestal root]

fuck all that exclusivity fomo shit let people have it

[vocal siren]

nah fuck that man

[pearl sequoia]

like TCG mounts? 😂

[vocal siren]

some stuff should be exclusive for the moment and the effort

[vestal root]

MT is way less rng and more fair now and still a challenge

you still have to put in effort

back then on release if you lacked a legendary youd get fucced

[vocal siren]

right but i dislike the idea that everyone should have access to everything at all times, theres nothing wrong with keeping some things exclusive for that time period

by the time mage tower got released, they had fixed the legendary 2 cap issue

[vestal root]

yeah but no one is taking that away from you

[vocal siren]

people had their bis legendaries

[vestal root]

you did it

let others that didnt play back then do it too

its a shit argument only made so you can make yourself feel special

[vocal siren]

exactly

i like being special

its like my plagued proto drake

[vestal root]

you aint

[vocal siren]

or amani war bear

cant get it anymore (except black market maybe?)

[vestal root]

maybe

[vocal siren]

its a snapshot of a time period where i worked hard to get it

[vestal root]

i thought all old mounts are in BM?

[vocal siren]

i dont use BM at all so maybe they are

but i checked mount stats and both mounts are <1%

[runic violet]

as expected... extended maintenance.

4 hours.