fury

[elder vessel]

Fury needs misdirect bro

[north edge]

Uh DK is also insane

I saw the Chinese team do a necrotic 13

[elder vessel]

If the tank is dogshit at damage I’m instantly dead in keys

Even if I wait 20 years

[north edge]

Uh DK and fmage doing 20mil dps

On some pulls

[hard widget]

Lets wish together

[elder vessel]

Is there a video

Or was it streamed

[north edge]

It’s on a Chinese site

[modest condor]

@hard widget how do you deal with the first aoe on the third boss in city of threads overlapping with orbs coming in? it feels like the only one who can soak orbs and live at that point is the tank, is it just down to them not being a lazy ass auto attacking the boss?

[drifting pond]

whats fury strong in after nerfs

[buoyant salmon]

do u have link

[north edge]

Lemme see if I can find it

[hard widget]

Its kinda toxic, you need enraged regen, hp pot and impeding victory to carry the team there or have a bdk

Otherwise ur just getting screwed

[elder vessel]

Never seen a 13 video yet

Bet it’s cancer

Dog that third boss in city does so much damage in 10+ it surprised me

Like I was sitting in d stance praying to allah

[hard widget]

Just never use impending victory or enraged regen on that fight other than for soaking, only def stance the aoe

[north edge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1M9x6eJE3B/

[hard widget]

Atleast thats what i do

[modest condor]

i depleted my 11 to a 9 because of that boss

[pearl sequoia]

bilililiblilili

[hard widget]

I mean lots of that fight is on the healer too tho sil

[elder vessel]

Dog how do I use this link

[hard widget]

What healer did you play?

[drifting pond]

click it

[dense elbow]

Shaman or death

[buoyant salmon]

they have aug thats cheating

[modest condor]

resto sham in both i believe

[hard widget]

Hmm

[elder vessel]

Says I have to make an account or some shit to watch it

On mobile rn

Sadge

[pearl sequoia]

third boss CoT just try to absorb the bad orbs far away

[modest condor]

maybe just skill issue from the healer

[pearl sequoia]

so u have room

[north edge]

Oh in mobile it’s fucked

[hard widget]

Should be fone to play resto sham there

[north edge]

If on pc it just opens

[hard widget]

Could try evoker

Evoker had some nutty cd’s for that fight

[tardy axle]

how does the bears hp barely move wtf

[hard widget]

Incarnation

[north edge]

If that was the bdk I play with

He’d be dead 15 times over

On that pull

[dense elbow]

Then dont play with him

[pearl sequoia]

its ok to be bad, its not ok to stay bad

[hard widget]

Jlow - 2024

[wanton cliff]

What if your both

[north edge]

I’m content with struggling on 11 keys

[tardy axle]

lol the mage literally dips half way through the key and changes to arcane

[north edge]

I just don’t see myself having the willpower to push beyond 11s

[tardy axle]

its 10 for portal ye?

[hard widget]

Yes

[north edge]

12 you lose the dps buff

[tardy axle]

10 once for the portal then just spam 9's

[north edge]

Keys feel impossible

[hard widget]

Need +10 for max vault

[drifting pond]

this trading post mount kinda fire

[tardy axle]

its 10 on myth track and 9 not?

[hard widget]

And all mobs gain 20% hp / dmg

[pearl sequoia]

9 heroic

10 myth

[north edge]

Ye 10 for myth track

[tardy axle]

fuck

[dense elbow]

8 10s a week keep bad dps away

[north edge]

Ye diffuclrug for 12 is like

Difference between a 7 and 10

I can see my group timing a 11 mist

[hard widget]

12’s are currently almost impossible to pug.
Source: trust me bro

[north edge]

I don’t see it ever happening on 12

[modest condor]

oh right new trading post

[hard widget]

Unless ur funkykitty

[north edge]

We run out of time by 2nd boss

[hard widget]

Then ur op

[dense elbow]

I will pug 12 in 2 months to prove Jeve wrong

[north edge]

Lmfao

[drifting pond]

i fw with the full white mount

[hard widget]

I said currently

[dense elbow]

And I did not stutter

[tardy axle]

pull bigger

[modest condor]

pff imagine having trouble pugging 12s, i was pugging those 6 years ago!

[north edge]

Can’t , tank dies

[tardy axle]

2 tanks!

[hard widget]

I’ve attempted like 10 or so, and timed 1 of em with a flawless run on mists

[north edge]

My first ever 10 key was a 10 grim batol

My dear lord

[hard widget]

(Pugging)

[north edge]

Took 2.5 hours

[dense elbow]

My first 10 was a 1 hour stonevault

[north edge]

We resorted to drumsing every pack

And resetting hero

[dense elbow]

I respect that

[north edge]

The little mobs after 3rd boss

[dense elbow]

That is the real raw W1 experience

[north edge]

Slimes looking thing

Our tank was like they look like they don’t hit hard

I’ll just walk in

[modest condor]

my first 10 was a necrotic wake

[north edge]

Died in .1 sec

[dense elbow]

Just BDK things

[summer quail]

that's rough buddy

[dense elbow]

You got past abos? Kudos

[north edge]

I mean that thing for nerfed by 66%

[drifting pond]

we GDK

[north edge]

Today

[modest condor]

we timed it

[north edge]

So you know it was fucked

[modest condor]

group was kinda pog tbh

[dense elbow]

That do be pog

[hard widget]

Sil we still need to do double warrior keys 😦

[modest condor]

was another warrior called jayxecute, and a shaman healer called zmen

[pearl sequoia]

zmen

[hard widget]

Dr jay hmm

[dense elbow]

Good thing you were there to carry

[modest condor]

damn right

[drifting pond]

sea men

[modest condor]

and yeah, was drjay and vibezz doing their weeklies lol

[drowsy iron]

Zmen is a clever ass name

[modest condor]

they needed keys and i had a +10 so i got a free ride along

[drowsy iron]

I'm stealing it

[quartz tulip]

we ready for anything now lads

[modest condor]

this ensemble from the trading post looks pretty cool ngl

[drifting pond]

yea insta bought it

[modest condor]

but man, 2 mounts and the ensemble, im running out of tendies

[quartz tulip]

its out already?

[modest condor]

in eu, idk about na

[quartz tulip]

oh

tomorrow

for us

ez yoink

i have like 11k tenders

[drifting pond]

Yall in the past

[modest condor]

i've been buying every mount on the trading post

[drifting pond]

we been had it

[quartz tulip]

DAMNNNNNS

[fluid cedar]

ight whose uncle works at blizz we need to revert these nerfs

[dense elbow]

Gotta save for when longboy comes out for 500k tendies

[drifting pond]

ight im rolling rogue for funzies

female dwarf rogue

female dwarf feet

[eager thorn]

bringing out cool stuff the month before sylvanas outfit as if they want ppl to run out of tendies :)

[drifting pond]

i saw a sylvanas flashcard at a tattoo shop

was kinda tempting

[north edge]

Long boi would make them so much money

If they brought it back for gold cap

Tokens would go down to 100k

[hard widget]

Tokens

i doubt people would buy 10m worth of those

[drifting pond]

people buying tokens when you can do 100k/hr gathering

smh

[north edge]

I mean either that or risk a ban buying gold

[hard widget]

I tried gathering once in shadowlands, got bored in 20 minutes

Never done it again

[buoyant salmon]

1 hour of work is double that MINIMUM

[low folio]

on df launch i did gathering because i like dragonriding and was waiting for M+ to release

[drifting pond]

yea but you spending it on a game

[north edge]

You can just do key carries for like 300k a hour

At your level

[modest condor]

i spent many hours gathering back in bfa

[hard widget]

I already did my boosting for the season really

[modest condor]

nowadays i just gather if i find something on the way, i dont do targeted gathering anymore

[hard widget]

Week 1 boosting pays so much its almost a crime

[north edge]

I mean it’s more efficient for some people who do to professions and buy a key on week one than grind it

I was taking in a mil a hour crafting alloys week one

[hard widget]

A +10 was 2.2 million gold week 1

It dropped to 1.8 at the end

But still

[drifting pond]

wtf

[north edge]

I’m still buying keys at 800k a key this week

+10

Was 1.2mil last week for my alts

[hard widget]

Yeah now prices are shit

Not worth it anymore

U get like 70k splits now

[north edge]

70k splits?

[hard widget]

And since +12’s are practically impossible with a client currently boosting is deadge

[north edge]

Who’s taking the Lion share

[hard widget]

Communities

Unless u wanna be spamming services chat

[north edge]

Can’t you just advertise on trade yourself

Multibox a char on illidan or area52 and use autoflood addon

[hard widget]

You know people who do that

Get banned on almost a daily basis ye?

[north edge]

Ye that’s why u use a separate bnet

They ban the bnet not the whole account

[hard widget]

U think im gonna do all of that

Hell naw

• im quite sure that can screw u over with blizzard tournaments as well

[north edge]

I’m just saying that’s what the guys doing the advertisement all do

Qingshui or whatever get banned everyday

Doesn’t stop them spamming 24/7

[hard widget]

.

[elder granite]

bruh ive gotten this launcher trinket twice now and no shard

[north edge]

You don’t even have to spam that much like they do

Just do it til someone signs up

Quite a lot of demand atm

[drifting pond]

but why tho if theres communities for it

[north edge]

A lot of my guildies buy keys

Because it’s 800k for a key and you can split 200k each? Instead of 70k

[nocturne dragon]

crazy expensive 800k for a key O_O

[nocturne dragon]

btw we can actually report someone spamming sell bus in the tradechat? as in that is legitimate ban?

[drifting pond]

thank god i got my army of venezuelan gold farmers

[eager thorn]

elvui shouldn't be too bad for performance if i turn like 99% of it off right

[north edge]

I think technically it’s legal

But you risk getting massreproted

and automated band

[north edge]

Thing is this patch, 10 keys are really hard for the average heroic raider

And you’re perma stuck with 619 gear

Unless you can do +9s

[nocturne dragon]

Hmmm then I'll try to report it so less spam in the chat who knows they will get automated ban

[north edge]

The worse offenders don’t care they get banned

Qingshui etc

They just make a new account to continue spamming

So reporting them does nothing

[tired brook]

lmfao

spell reflect weakaura says the frontal in dawnbreaker is reflectable

stood in it and got one shot

[summer quail]

you sure there wasn't a cast going off at the same time?

[tired brook]

nah it was the only mob alive we kept it up just to test that because it didnt seem right

maybe it expired? but im 99% sure it didn't and the wa is just bait

other than that wa is working perfectly

[silk wharf]

it says the charge from the dudes in stonevault too. but i also havent updated it if changes have been made.

[velvet obsidian]

The WA isn't always right. Probably needs an update tbh

[edgy widget]

it's possible - could be an error or a change on blizz' end, but community projects are only as good as the amount of information going into them, so I'd recommend reaching out to them about it

[velvet obsidian]

Pretty good for what it is though. Random web bolt reflects can get pretty juicy and are a blessing on healers

[edgy widget]

that said, I've done Dawnbreaker several times and don't think I've ever seen it alert me about any frontals, so it sounds more likely that a cast started and either quickly kicked or the mob died immediately after it started

[trail tendon]

which one do guys think is better? Frenzied enrage or powerful enrage? i simmed it, seems like frenzied does more damage but on warcraft logs for M+, seems pretty 50/50 some of the top fury warriors use frenzied some use powerful

[edgy widget]

they're basically even in terms of sustain, but Powerful has higher burst moments

[tired brook]

I've had 0 issues outside of that one mistake but maybe i'm just using the wrong wa

[trail tendon]

so i guess its more towards personal preference?

[tired brook]

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9 is what im using to reference

[edgy widget]

just sayin, I don't believe I've ever gotten an alert about that

[trail tendon]

i do like the higher haste gameplay

[edgy widget]

yep that's the one everyone uses

[tired brook]

interesting

[velvet obsidian]

Powerful Enrage so you can RIP aggro and bait the priest into giving you PI. That way you don't even need frenzied.

[tired brook]

cuz it happens on every add frontal lmfao

ill reach out after this key!

[edgy widget]

if you really wanna fact find, queue up a follower dungeon and go test it again

[tired brook]

true

[trail tendon]

i never get PI since bloodmallet says fury is low on the PI list

[tired brook]

this sounds like hell

[edgy widget]

I did dawnbreaker tonight and didn't get any, then again I haven't updated the WA in awhile either, so maybe something erroneous was added

or maybe you're just crazy and didn't see what you thought you saw

[tired brook]

true

[velvet obsidian]

Half the priests just PI highest DPS. And if you burst real hard it baits them.

[tired brook]

probably just a warrior brain moment

[velvet obsidian]

Also, priests don't read silly

[tired brook]

and im schizophrenically getting a weakaura pop up every single frontal in my head

[summer quail]

if the tank does big pulls, powerful no doubt

[trail tendon]

gotcha gotcha

i would assume run frenzied if im pugging?

[velvet obsidian]

Ya memes aside I always run frenzied. Super useful having the extra haste if your gear isn't BiS statted

[summer quail]

you run whatever you feel like, unless you're pushing keys it's not gonna break or make keys. test both see what you prefer yourself

[trail tendon]

gotcha gotcha

im regularly doing 8s

trying to run 10s now

[rocky wharf]

heroic queen. bad to whirlwind to immune pull? i keep getting hit

[buoyant salmon]

doing the overall of some of u guys on a 575 dk

god bless

[sullen dove]

big number for u eh

and also holy that is halfway down the details bar

who is doing 1.8m

or is that just a mob pull

and not an overall

cuz if its not an overall then

[buoyant salmon]

overall

enhance shaman

[sullen dove]

classic enhance

and xeos says they dont need nerfs

sandbagging filth

[buoyant salmon]

bro unholy FUCKS on big pulls i was doing like 4m sustained dps

with dogass gear

might as well have had nothing equipped

[sullen dove]

powerful

[buoyant salmon]

(on two pulls bc it was mists kekw)

[zealous stone]

guys is the nerf tomorrow or when

[buoyant salmon]

11.0.5

not for weeks

[weary sail]

but u might as well quit now

fury dead

warr dead

long live FDK

[runic violet]

just spent... an hour on the last boss of 10 gb

[sullen dove]

yea if u dont think fdk is about to get mollywhopped in a week or 2

[runic violet]

turend out to be... the heals gears were broken the whole time.

[sullen dove]

gonna have a rough time

[runic violet]

then he blocked everyone and left.

[sullen dove]

👑 king shit

[runic violet]

i need one more +10 😦

[sullen dove]

try to do any dungeon that isnt grim batol and you prolly got it

[teal pine]

gonna need fdk to not get nerfed actually

im kinda pumping on it

[runic violet]

I had a good +10 gb earlier this week.

[sullen dove]

it has been preordained

cannot be countered sowwy

[teal pine]

just did a 9 batol

swear that dungeon is impossible

[runic violet]

but this time... the healer was either high or drunk.

every mvoe someone dies...

I pop everythign I still die

"oh no my gears are red"

[sullen dove]

Did a 10 batol and we were flying thru all of up to second bosss and killed it fine but then 1 step into 3rd boss trash and group dies if more than 2 mobs are pulled

[runic violet]

the whole freaking time

we did one shot 2nd boss +10

then spent an hour at the last one

[sullen dove]

(some warlock pet asspulls didn’t help) just not enough damage on the guys

[runic violet]

and the heal left

[teal pine]

2 lavabenders in front of 2nd boss is always a huge pain point in the groups im in

[runic violet]

I expect a wipe there... we didn't wipe tho

[teal pine]

always at least one wipe to them when we dont blow one up first

[runic violet]

but seriously

[sullen dove]

I mean if ur wiping in any boss for an hour I think literally everyone’s gear would get broken

[runic violet]

2600 tank came in with 1800 heal

the heal couldnt' freaking heal

[sullen dove]

There’s a sandy guy right there to repair after every pull

[runic violet]

my mistake

[sullen dove]

until he leaves randomly

[runic violet]

yea i mean we were timed out by the last boss... but it was for completion

so no big deal

but

every move.... we died

the heal was talking a lot of stuff

[calm quartz]

Warlock charbound aura pulling the sleeping group

Very cool

[runic violet]

then... he told us his gears were red like an hour later

he must have been high or drunk

im ranting :0

[teal pine]

rant king

[runic violet]

gb is getting nerfed tho

[meager void]

To the ground too

Fuken old school nerf hammer on it

[runic violet]

i literally didn't think it was that challenging my first +10 gb run

[meager void]

Its not, once you could see the tentacles it was fine.

[runic violet]

i blame the heal... trying to heal with broken gear dying all the time.

can't clear with that kinda bullcrap

[molten wing]

some people still think of a +10 as the old 10s

instead its more like a 20 now

[meager void]

That trash you mention, ive seen some kite at the enrage.

But may have been beta move.

[drifting pond]

i grant you all the title backshotistan war veteran

for your horrible experiences caused by blizzard

[drowsy glen]

guys does our rotation prio changes with 2p /4p or no?!

[summer quail]

No

[eager thorn]

play as if you dont have it

[runic violet]

it's pretty marginal.

just normal rotation :0

[restive pewter]

is the 616 vault slot from delves hero or champ track

i forgot

[nocturne dragon]

consider it not exist

and just do your normal things.

same things if you play prot or arms. just do usual things, consider the tierset not exist.

[eternal sundial]

8 delves are hero

[near wing]

Anyone use action targeting feature in options menu? I’ve found it’s made a world of a difference in uptime. Can’t tell if I got lucky, but I’m seeing about a 30% increase in dps in 4 consecutive m+ dungeons. Still new to melee, and it seems to always have something targeted infront of me

[tired brook]

can we spell reflect tentacle on last boss gb as fury

or is it a prot thing

[golden hare]

same spell

[near wing]

Is this a known thing for newbies? Or did I just get lucky for a couple dungeons in a row

[trail tendon]

why is raidbots telling me mountain thane is a 200k dps increase on m+

this is with no buffs only battle shout

[nocturne dragon]

spell reflect is all across board the same

[golden hare]

beause dungeon slice isn't perfect

[nocturne dragon]

have you got the document? if not you can always visit prot channel and get into pinned post lunatik

[golden hare]

or if you're doing patchwerk x target that also isn't m+

[trail tendon]

im doing dungeon slice

someone told me they made it a lot better than what it used to be

[golden hare]

that might be true

[pale lava]

thane was always better in AOE to put it very simply without going into details

it's just that the ST is significantly worse than Slayer

[trail tendon]

ahh gotcha

[pale lava]

so you're trading a significant chunk of ST loss for mediocre aoe gains

[trail tendon]

that makes sense

[tardy lark]

much clap

[trail tendon]

i'd be losing out on a lot dps on bosses

idk how it would affect my overall, maybe it would depend on the dungeon

[tardy lark]

yeah and everywhere else because the rotation is a giant mess

[trail tendon]

goootcha

[pale lava]

also thane plays ravager

gg

[tardy lark]

i fucking wish i could play ravager as slayer too

although fury BS doesnt feel too bad

[hushed ocean]

please no more rav

[pale lava]

why would you want to play rav

[tardy lark]

i get to press my buttons

playing arms with BS on ST is actually an atrocious design decision

[red berry]

will say that i wish thane wasn’t a total throw

[tardy lark]

I mean it isnt a throw in m+

[pale lava]

only because arms BS is very long

[red berry]

mmmm

[tardy lark]

yes

[pale lava]

but fury BS is the most satisfying button to press atm

it looks turbo badass and feels very good to press in any situation

[tardy lark]

hard disagree, but it feels better than arms

[radiant plank]

So satisfying to lose control over my character

[pale lava]

?

[hushed ocean]

lol?

[pale lava]

you're confusing bs with demolish

[eternal sundial]

I love self cc

[pale lava]

but sure

[tardy lark]

@radiant plank did korruptio go hard afk on kyveza like we did

[eternal sundial]

So glad i cant IV in bs

[hushed ocean]

you think you control the rav ?

[radiant plank]

No, we are prolly killing today

[pearl sequoia]

wtf is demolish

[pale lava]

brother relax

[tardy lark]

bro i wish we didnt go full flaccid

[pale lava]

I can give a ton of reasons why ravager is just objectively bad

[radiant plank]

Gonna turn into 60pull boss after reset

[tardy lark]

we're actually just hard afk waiting for nerfs for both ovinax and kyveza and i hate it

[pale lava]

not being able to IV in bs is really not a problem at all

[radiant plank]

horror

[tardy lark]

bro hasnt played ovinax or kyveza

[pale lava]

this, wait until the tank has to move and ravager ends up hitting just 1 mob of the edge of the pack, gg

[radiant plank]

Thinking you play ravager for the ravager damage itself

:icant

[pale lava]

why do you think it's good design

[tardy lark]

the amount of times i've been slamming my IV key on Ovinax cause tank explosion goes off as adds spawn and i channel full BS at 10% hp is scary

[pale lava]

you know that's a tuning/healer issue

right?

and not a bladestorm design issue

[tardy lark]

[radiant plank]

[tardy lark]

just let me play ravager instead

and not lock me out of pressing my buttons

[radiant plank]

Slayer would be the perfect hero talent if they let it work with Ravager

[tardy lark]

yeah

[summer quail]

Surely mountain thane buff soon

[radiant plank]

With the extra rage and execute focus, ravager unhinged execute loop would feel so good

sending up to 9 executes without worrying about EP or tier or shit

Unhinged from rava consuming all that

damn

[eternal sundial]

If my spec doesnt allow me full agency over my guy and i die with IV up

If i then yell at healers

Im a clown

[radiant plank]

Its tuning issue if you drop below 50% hp in a raid!

[pale lava]

you're missing the point completely

but sure

you're dead set on disliking bs so I won't try to convince you any further

[tardy lark]

@radiant plank are you guys 1tanking

[radiant plank]

yep

[tardy lark]

has to die tonight then lol

[eternal sundial]

Should i cancel my dps cd

Is that what i have to do

[runic violet]

Desperate souls for +10

[tardy lark]

how many pulls deep are you

[golden hare]

yes, and you will enjoy it

[radiant plank]

244

[eternal sundial]

Cancelling bs

I love shadowlands

[radiant plank]

best pull is 9%

[eternal sundial]

Winnable

[tardy lark]

bro how tf did you manage 200 pulls more than us that fast

how much are you raiding xd

[radiant plank]

7days 18-23

[tardy lark]

holy

[golden hare]

hell

[eternal sundial]

[tardy lark]

ok, thats fair

[radiant plank]

But we are doing 6 splits too!

[eternal sundial]

I mean u are getting prog in

MonkaW

[tardy lark]

the dream xd

[radiant plank]

:bench:

[eternal sundial]

Will you onebang council at least

[radiant plank]

my pov on princess

[eternal sundial]

But arm wtf

Or too many melee

[radiant plank]

too many melee

[eternal sundial]

Enhas man

[tardy lark]

are you a pre SR or late SR kinda guy on queensbanes

[radiant plank]

Im pressing logout on queensbane

I would late Sr

[tardy lark]

muh parse

[radiant plank]

sit in Dstance

My plan was to dstance till charge, go back in, leap out, SR

maybe dbts if scary

[tardy lark]

do you have double pres

[radiant plank]

Naw

[restive pewter]

ty

[tardy lark]

cause we are bleeding the fuck out

[radiant plank]

we were world first guild to 2xpriest 1xpres to ovinax

[eternal sundial]

First or only xd

[radiant plank]

First and only

[tardy lark]

we are 1 of 2 guilds killing ovinax with a hpal lol

or at least were start of week

[radiant plank]

But we arent cheating with 2x pres

we have ethical healing comp

[tardy lark]

same

and i feel that on kyveza

fuck me

the amount of deaths we have on the first 2 queensbanes is crazy

[fading bane]

We will be 3rd tonight

[eternal sundial]

Prevo not tuned yet is it

[fading bane]

At least reclears are free

[tardy lark]

yeah but i fucking hate killing nerfed bosses man

[final birch]

we almost did

missing 1 raid night

[fading bane]

The nerfs are needed

[final birch]

this shit is so dead

[tardy lark]

hope your hpal doesnt have a strength wep equipped @fading bane

[fading bane]

But holy fuck so much at once

[final birch]

our hpal is crying in shambles

whenever I rip aggro of big spiders

he just pre bops me sometimes

[fading bane]

Our rogue made a 636 int dagger tho

[tardy lark]

They are, but halondrus nerfing them on first pass is too much

[radiant plank]

You are gonna cathup to our Princess prog in like 10pulls post nerfs

xdd

[radiant plank]

Didnt know you raid with Zerocool

[fading bane]

Yes

[tardy lark]

I love Zerocool man

or

raided

lol

[radiant plank]

xddd

[final birch]

used to

[eternal sundial]

Zerocool has an incredible stream

[radiant plank]

Funny drama lol

[fading bane]

He kinda just never did any mechanic

[eternal sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012847410432704615/1263918962518003793/D181D0B8D0B6D0BAD0B0-D0B7D0B5D180D0BED0BAD183D0BB-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[fading bane]

And just hit boss

Hes in a better place now

[final birch]

what's the better place

[fading bane]

A guild of m+ players

[eternal sundial]

Yelling pig at m+ers

[final birch]

waut

wait

[tardy lark]

yeah, but i dislike the sentiment of just payphoning till last boss

[fading bane]

When has fulltime m+ player -> good guild ever gone well

[eternal sundial]

Real

[final birch]

he joined rcg?

in the end

[tardy lark]

but i guess thats why CyaThursday has good ranks with little playtime

[radiant plank]

Smashing head against wall boss?
Naw go farm mythic boes

[tardy lark]

real

[eternal sundial]

Do you consider hopeful an m+er even tho he played in idiot

[tardy lark]

spent 10 hours on kyveza trash

end me

[fading bane]

Weve gotten so many mail and leather boes

[eternal sundial]

Or someone like stove

[fading bane]

2x plate

[tardy lark]

we've seen 1 pair of plate boots in 10 hours

[eternal sundial]

Who's both m+ Andy and raid forg

[radiant plank]

LeMike

[eternal sundial]

No idea if Mike raids and where

[fading bane]

Idk if he raided before

[radiant plank]

lemike is horror tank I hear

[fading bane]

Its different when its ppl raiding top 100-200 whilw pushing

[eternal sundial]

Hopeful lore for me starts in s1 df that's when i noticed the magus logs

[fading bane]

Rather than just pushing

[eternal sundial]

The amount of title mages

Ive seen fail trials

S2 title **

[radiant plank]

DrJay xD

[final birch]

my officer told me yday

[tardy lark]

the only sane m+ players are the top 5 2day guild players tbh

[eternal sundial]

Like even in the bad guilds im in

[final birch]

he thought I'd be fucking horrible before I joined

because I'm an mplusser

lmaoooooooooooooooooo

[eternal sundial]

DrJay is actually alright at raid

[radiant plank]

real

[eternal sundial]

He plays with sarri doesnt he

[fading bane]

Real

[final birch]

he wasnt wrong

[tardy lark]

gotten denied from cyathursday several times

[final birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[young swan]

exclusively jpc im pretty sure

[eternal sundial]

Interesting

[radiant plank]

Yeah he is in Synergy

[young swan]

hes still dumb as bricks, but hes good

[eternal sundial]

Probably the strong personality

[fading bane]

Not a long list, they also nerfed ovinax with both things i mentioned lmao

And lots more

[young swan]

15% was actually way more than i was expecting

[fading bane]

15% is insane

[young swan]

swirlie dam nerf makes sense

[final birch]

u wont get oneshotted from 2

anymore

[young swan]

as much as I dont think it was necessary the egg break duration makes sense

[fading bane]

Our boss was 15% when breaking 9th eggs

[final birch]

so ig yeah

[radiant plank]

Ovinax is gonna die before you even make it to last egg break

xd

[tardy lark]

Love having to chose between wiping the raid to not break egg or die to swirly armageddon

[final birch]

our boss was starting 7th eggs at 35% which is where our best pull was

we already optimised our st dam fully knowing we would have to do it sooner or later

the hp nerf means we just wont fight like rwf did

[tardy lark]

I think AM is kind of bait if you have some extra fdks or another warrior

[fading bane]

Ive played RA for last 2 raids

[radiant plank]

I will not play RA

[fading bane]

AM has higher highs

[eternal sundial]

We have 2 wars but surely with the nerfs our ret fdk fury dh meatgrinder is enough

[fading bane]

But its inconsistent

[radiant plank]

I will play Arms on ovinax now

[eternal sundial]

And i can arms

[fading bane]

And makes you play more risky

[final birch]

we thought about it

[young swan]

u can get it pretty fuckin consistent

[final birch]

but ended up doing diff stuff

1 arms 1 fury

[fading bane]

Doesnt stop it fucking u with mechanics or dying

[tardy lark]

gotta sweat it with charging if you want it consistently and suddenly you'll charge into swirls on killpull (fuck me)

[buoyant salmon]

zerocool has the best playlist ive ever heard in any stream

[young swan]

idk even with mechanics ive been fine the past 2 nights of ovi

[buoyant salmon]

but he never links it when i ask

[fading bane]

The worst is charging thru swirlies

[buoyant salmon]

maybe its just a youtube auto geneerated one idk

[radiant plank]

he listens to youtube auto generated tecno mixess

[buoyant salmon]

am is super consistent with frenzied enrage

[fading bane]

But then you have to play frenzied

[buoyant salmon]

theyre heat i wish mine were good

[tardy lark]

Frenzied enrage is beta behavior

[young swan]

even with powerful

its very consistent

u just have to play smart

[radiant plank]

ok but u need like 20k haste

with powerful

[buoyant salmon]

im too old for powerful idk

[young swan]

(slamming rampage every global while adds are dying to maximize war machine)

[buoyant salmon]

grom and i were crashing out

[tardy lark]

i did fine with powerful at 30% haste, which is like 16k i think

[buoyant salmon]

so we switched

[final birch]

i was missing few sec always

lacking 1-2 gcds

[young swan]

im in the same boat as aagaard

[tardy lark]

yeah me having to rally as first egg breaks go out was actually something that made it way harder

[radiant plank]

Could try just sending executes for rage

and not waiting for mfe

[final birch]

I did

[tardy lark]

spec SD potentially

[radiant plank]

watchu drop for Sd

hns?

[tardy lark]

bloodcraze

[final birch]

I never had issues with bladestorm

[radiant plank]

ic

[final birch]

getting it to 3 stacks

and getting it off cd

so I was full sending everything for rage

idk

maybe skill issue

this is like first time I'm playing fury seriously

[tardy lark]

nah you can delay BS during AM opener if you have good windfury rng on pull

send another ramp

[final birch]

I did

[molten wing]

are freenzied/powerful really close ? Haven't much done simming between both to check

[tardy lark]

if egg break debuffs go out and you have 20 or less cd on reck, you're good

[final birch]

I did reck charge roar mid charge into OF ramp rb rb ramp bs

that's my opener generally on the worm

since I never had any bs issues

[tardy lark]

i tried waiting till reck was done with BS, but that made BS tight

[final birch]

oh I never tried that

I tried getting into a scenario where I'm <30 rage and then sending bs for rage so I can cancel at >125

[tardy lark]

stopped testing shit out when we began getting to 3rd egg area

yeah i was cancelling bs as well

[final birch]

I got that idea from u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

I briefly thought about it before but didnt bother to test it till I've been told

that someone is actually doing that

[tardy lark]

I actually think i got it from Banezi

[eternal sundial]

Now let's talk to the not getting to IV in bs is okay guy

[final birch]

so following raid night I just did it every pull

[tardy lark]

it made it a lot more consistent at least

[ornate gust]

We play AM build in Brood fight?

[iron portal]

They just nerfed it so i wonder

[pale lava]

more important stuff to complain about and you guys nitpick this

but sure

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[radiant prawn]

trying to figure out why im behind on sim but for ST Fury, we span bloodthirst as well to regen?

initially thought we wait till its 95% or higher?

[buoyant salmon]

?

[gaunt sonnet]

How come unhinged doesn’t use meat cleaver stacks?

[pale lava]

was changed not to

[radiant plank]

They removed the interaciton

[buoyant salmon]

its fuckign cringew awful to not be able to heal in bladestorm

[radiant prawn]

sorry wrong snppet, bloodbath = bloodthirst?

[pale lava]

you don't press bloodthirst that much

you usually fill with RB

outside abandon

but yes bloodbath is RA bloodthirst

[buoyant salmon]

if u have a ton of rage u can skip bloodbath until its guarenteed crit

guarentted/close to guarenteed

[radiant prawn]

yea thats what i thought

[pale lava]

that's only during opener usually tho

since ure in cds

outside reck you don't wanna do that ideally

but iirc it's a very small gain to do that

[gaunt sonnet]

And what are the rules on pressing CB or BB even while rage capped? Some of the guides reference it but don’t seem consistent.

[pale lava]

yeah

CB and BB are prio over everything while enraged

[radiant plank]

Rage bar is cosmetic, look at your enrage timer

[pale lava]

to put it simply

[radiant plank]

That decides what to press

Enraged? Press CB and BB
Not enraged? rampage

[mild heron]

you dont want press rampage while you enraged never?

[radiant plank]

Only when above 115 rage

or 100 id rmbr

[gaunt sonnet]

But even then, only after you’ve used CB and BB?

[mild heron]

@radiant plank only above 100/115 cuz dont want waste the rage?

[gaunt sonnet]

So your choice is either press RB again to push rampage above 115 or rampage if enrage is going to run out?

[radiant plank]

Here

Just read this

[pale lava]

in M+ I recommend executing at any stacks of marked for execution if the target will die soon

to not miss out on BS cdr

same with SD

so you buff ur bs

[mild heron]

nevermind - critcake said this is wrong

[warm tartan]

haven't played retail in a long ass time, friends persuaded me to give it a shot. how good are warriors now in general for pve content, are we doing decent?

[buoyant salmon]

i cant read now what

[buoyant salmon]

theyre good

[radiant plank]

Ask gromnak

[gaunt sonnet]

are we pressing rampage before Bladestorm in CDs so that the first unhinged is a CB rather than a BT?

[warm tartan]

sounds good

[warm crag]

Very good in raid if you flex both specs, otherwise fury is excelling most fights and fine in st

If you only care abt m+ you might wanna reroll

[vestal root]

Man cmon fury and arms are fine for m+ too

[gleaming siren]

The answer is Frost DK and the question is what's the god spec

[vestal root]

I guess if you go for 3k rio yeah reroll

[warm crag]

Yes, they're fine in m+

[buoyant salmon]

fury is rather good in m+

better than just fine

[warm crag]

But if you only care about one game mode might aswell optimize for it

[vestal root]

Any giga rio go mage

[buoyant salmon]

mage so overhyped

[vestal root]

Enh shaman is criminal tho

[molten wing]

considering there is ass rogue/ret pala/frost dk/ unholy dk

most of those spec will do better in m+ and take the melee spot

[warm crag]

I've been beaten one too many times by a ret 10 ilvls below me for this to be the case

[buoyant salmon]

enhance unholy sin every key you don’t need aug

[molten wing]

warrior still decent just not that great / or you have to be giga good player to go high with it

[vestal root]

Fellas i get it we got nefed 20000 times but lets not downplay the comfy fury that can do fine numbers

[quick zodiac]

Why do u rampage when above 115 rage ? Just to optimize enrage uptime or ?

[warm crag]

Fury St priority is anything but comfy despairge

[vestal root]

St is just aoe with less steps

[warm crag]

Then ur probably not playing the opportunist or bb crit conditionals

[vestal root]

Thats easy

Fdk and such have way harder optimizations than that

[warm tartan]

okay well i kinda want to try out both raiding and m+, but i havent played for so long i wont be pushing for 99s or high ratings just wanna have some fun

but i guess fury is fine then?

[buoyant salmon]

ppl outplay themselves with conditionals on fury

[warm crag]

Yeah fury is more than fine for that

[buoyant salmon]

just hit ur buttons

[vestal root]

Fury is fun af

[warm tartan]

awesome, thanks guys

[vestal root]

Dont be me dont steal tank aggro

[warm tartan]

race and shit dont matter no more, right?

[vestal root]

Unless minmaxing no

[warm crag]

Never did

[vestal root]

Play what you like

(maghar orc)

Sick heritage armor thats all

[warm tartan]

ive played classic too much in the last years im corrupted by the blood fury orc racial lol

[vestal root]

Its all extremely minor differences

Literally pick looks or heritage armor

[pearl crypt]

Orc gives u AP/SP, maghar gives u highest secondary stat

[vestal root]

Dracthyr will soon be warrs too

[pearl crypt]

So for fury that is mastery/haste

[warm tartan]

sounds good to me

[warm crag]

I mean ye this is what u do but then u also can't say fury is easy if you ignore the difficult semi untrackable conditionals like opportunist which procs half a sec after the rb self reset

[odd star]

its ass. play dk or pally instead

[ashen siren]

Does anyone know the exact % dmg increase on bb and cb?

[warm crag]

So unless u have a WA that reads rb resets that come from pressing rb but not from rampage from hns u probs can't play this conditional perfectly

[warm crag]

Me when the task at hand is giving bad advice

[vestal root]

Pally is really "boring" and dk has some jank to it no matter how you put it

[snow edge]

What is the actual % gain by gaming those opportunist procs though

[vestal root]

Also warrior mobility insane

[snow edge]

Legitimate q

[odd star]

dks jank = more damage + more survivability + better looks + doesnt get cucced by blizz

oops

responded to wrong one

[warm crag]

0.1 I think?

[gaunt sonnet]

you say doesn't get cucked, but frost DK has been all but a forgotten spec for years

[warm crag]

Above margin of error but not worth doing

[near crown]

question with crushing blow/raging blow. do i prioritize crushing blow > bloodthirst > raging blow? or crushing blow > raging blow > bloodthirst?

[pearl crypt]

Better looks DEBATABLE

[odd star]

and it will be forgotten again soon. dk enjoyers gotta learn UH

[tardy lark]

the opportunist thing is pretty decent as far as i remember, but the slaughtering strikes optimization is like 2k dps lol

[buoyant salmon]

frost has been sleeper since s4 shadowlands

[buoyant salmon]

learn unholy kekw

[old cloud]

Have the nerfs been reverted yet or is it gg

[vestal root]

Breath builds make every warrior build ever look like gold

[buoyant salmon]

theres some optimizations u can do with unholy but its very fundamentally simple

[tardy lark]

fury is dead might as well quit

[old cloud]

already did

[tardy lark]

wise choice

[gaunt sonnet]

what conditional are you referring to?

[tardy lark]

for which buff

[old cloud]

cant catch me on poopy spec (blizzard please save fury i cant reroll i love fury)

[tardy lark]

opportunist or slaughtering strikes

[vestal root]

Tried DH yday, logged out after 1h

[odd star]

not saying UH is hard to play. personally, i just stopped believing in playing dps warrior. blizz cant make it a damage profile i enjoy and cant let it be strong so i jump ship

[old cloud]

XD

[vestal root]

Inertia makes me question blizz

[buoyant salmon]

unholy and fury have basically identical damage profiles

with unholy just having unbelievably good aoe in huge pulls

bc it scales so well with extra targets

[odd star]

uh has good st when specced for it

[tardy lark]

cap it at 5

now

[odd star]

dont need to swap to arms for sikran kyveza rashanan

[buoyant salmon]

ppl are droping apoc

[odd star]

with uh

[vestal root]

Make all melee shit lets go

[old cloud]

is Arms also gonna be poopy or is it just Fury

[vestal root]

Arms is "fine"

[odd star]

and, to my knowledge, uh is always a bursty cd based spec while fury has some tiers of being a consistent aoe spec (aberrus comes to mind)

[vestal root]

St it pumps

[buoyant salmon]

yeah for sure i just meant this patch specifically

abberus fury was very flat

[vestal root]

S3 df fury return

[odd star]

s3 df fury was goated

[vestal root]

I loved it idk

Fun

[tardy lark]

If it isnt S2 fury i dont want it

[odd star]

i loved it. had decent st for once

[vestal root]

Crazy how fdk is so FOTM rn but i remember for years they didnt exist

Either bdk or no dk

[buoyant salmon]

theyve been great in raid for a long long time

[noble oracle]

Hi all, usually right after opener+Bladestorm, we go Rampage > Bloodbath > Odyn's > Rampage > Bloodbath > normal rotation? Would also like to know in AOE situations that is it better to use bloodbath right after rampage? Or Rampage > Crushing Blow > Bloodbath? Which one is better? Thank you all.

[buoyant salmon]

and frost has been sleeper in keys for a while

[junior gale]

Surv hunter in SL moment

[buoyant salmon]

unholy great in s1 dragonflight

[vestal root]

Delete melee sv already

[tardy lark]

Frost is only really good when they decide that 2h frost obliterate is a spec or the raid/dungeon design allows for breath to be usable

[vestal root]

Breath

[tardy lark]

sneeze is so fucking cool

but my god is mists illegal

[vestal root]

Id be a dk main if breath didnt exist

[buoyant salmon]

just don’t play it loo

lol

[vestal root]

You know that at some points it is by farvthe best choice

And not by 1%

Ill level a dk for next season, levelled a ret recently did some keys holy shit is it boring

[mossy fox]

this is wrong

[tardy lark]

im lvling dk just to sneeze

[buoyant salmon]

you can play unholy too

[vestal root]

Yknow

Bfa UH was kinda fun

[junior gale]

Time to breathe all over ppl as fdk it must be done

[gaunt sonnet]

opportunist

[junior gale]

must fotm

[noble oracle]

@mossy fox usually right after opener+Bladestorm, we go Rampage > Bloodbath > Odyn's > Rampage > Bloodbath > normal rotation? Would also like to know in AOE situations that is it better to use bloodbath right after rampage? Or Rampage > Crushing Blow > Bloodbath? Which one is better? Thank you boss.

[tardy lark]

let me find the specific line if it hasnt been entirely removed for simplicitiy's sake

@gaunt sonnet

RB if below 100 rage and no opportunist buff

[uncut scarab]

Is there a list for all the spells bitter immunity can't remove ? Like even tho the spell is poison it just doesn't remove it

[buoyant salmon]

is it actually a poison or is it a physical effect that looks like a poison icon

[molten wing]

what are you mostly running in m+ this week , Frenzied enrage or Powerful

[barren coral]

how tf do people top parse with no spec WAs

do they look at their tiny spell icons for each cd? have they memorized every single sequence by heart?

[vestal root]

WAs are there to help once you learn

[unborn notch]

I've played UH for the first time this xpac in some baby keys and I enjoyed it immensely
Never had a damage profile thats ramp based so it's a cool change

[vestal root]

If you cant press without WAs, WAs wont help

[unborn notch]

Yea weakauras are to help you track/do things that aren't clear when they should happen not when a rotational button is up

Outlaw rogue has a cool weakauras to tell you if it's worth rerolling/extended roll the bones or not cuz that spec has so much going on it's very nice to have the weakauras make that decision in the moment than you having to

[vestal root]

Popping pimples is kinda annoying

[unborn notch]

It's my first time doing it I don't mind it much I really like the damage ramp

[vestal root]

Yeh i getcha

[unborn notch]

Cuz when you do that you get crazy amount of bonus str and then epidemic(?) crits and each free one spawns a magus that does a volley

Also all the combat text 😎

[vestal root]

But fury avatar reck >>>>>

Charge into all CDs is too good mane

[unborn notch]

8m dps while I'm still casting death and decay and putting diseases on

[barren coral]

whats there to learn about a fury dmg rotation

but your explanation is sound

a fury top parser definitively doesnt need any additional info from WAs

[teal pine]

i think fury specifically doesnt really need too many WAs to play well but most other specs do

[warm tartan]

what race are y'all rocking for fury?

[radiant plank]

ww stacks, enrage timer

[vestal root]

I got maghar because of heritage armor but its all whatever

[tardy lark]

Nobody will need WAs to press rampage-crushing blow-bloodbath-rampage, but WAs will make life easier in a lot of other regards, but for tracking different buff uptimes, enrage stacks and other things that might influence decisions, you arent looking at the top right of your monitor for your buff bar

[bitter palm]

bt crit tracker

[vestal root]

Races are cosmetic

[tardy lark]

wonder why everyone that couldnt break roots themselves went gnome on ansurek

[vestal root]

Gnome uggo

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1270040420315037727.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[unborn notch]

Wait did they really mass race change?

Did liquid

[vestal root]

Ill check out dracthyr maybe

[unborn notch]

Fuck dracthyr they nerfed glide

[radiant plank]

Every guild sofar yes

[unborn notch]

Boycott it

[vestal root]

Idc

[unborn notch]

Cool ty for the insight

[tardy lark]

although warrior wont need to race change

[radiant plank]

Spell reflect op

[tardy lark]

why play fury on ansurek when theres no cocoons to use CDs on

[radiant plank]

Surely just arms angle

[tardy lark]

i wish bro

[radiant plank]

Race change to gnome

and play arms

[tardy lark]

you'll just hold an avatar use slightly i think

[radiant plank]

All warriors so far have held 2nd use for the shield

which is very cring

[tardy lark]

yeah thats not gonna be needed in 2 weeks

[radiant plank]

Gbless

Its so cringe

[tardy lark]

we're even getting the buff then lol

[radiant plank]

Hmm let me hold this 1.5min CD for 1.3mins

[tardy lark]

full hc timings ez

[radiant plank]

just so i lineit with shield

[tardy lark]

Its tindral all over again

[radiant plank]

How hard is the raid gonna start flopping over once we have the 25% buff + 636 ilvl

3min mythic fights

[eternal sundial]

Me when ava 1 min in

[radiant plank]

holy

[eternal sundial]

God guck fuck that boss

[tardy lark]

[eternal sundial]

A lot ig

Like we have 15 ilvl to go

[tardy lark]

Kyveza at 630+ and late farm is gonna be a 4 min fight lol

but i honestly think this is such a superior way of nerfing encounters

[radiant plank]

Ovinax post nerfs at 630+ and late farm

Gonna die before 3rd platform

[tardy lark]

reeeaaallly dislike how the halondrus'd ovinax and kyveza, but i get the gap in difficulty going from 4 sub 10pull bosses to a 100+ into 200+

[eternal sundial]

She'll remain hard for blaze terror guilds

Which is okayge

[tardy lark]

i am in this picture and i dont like it

[radiant plank]

Untill they cut the damage from those even more

[eternal sundial]

I mean whats the optimal

1 4 20 40

90 120 130 220

Like that distribution

[tardy lark]

https://www.twitch.tv/aagaardx/clip/CuriousBetterLobsterHassaanChop-m8mEeXOMwPPqip02
https://www.twitch.tv/aagaardx/clip/FlaccidAwkwardPrariedogKAPOW-pYWAEFLtZ5mvYN6C
@eternal sundial

just having first 2 be cakewalks, next 2 be 20-40 and the rest be a gradual rise, but thats obviously impossible to predict

[eternal sundial]

Flaccid akward Prariedog KAPOW

[tardy lark]

wish i had discord sound louder

also have a clip of our healer saying "i feel like im wearing a rolex on the streets of london and the shanking is coming so fast" because of the lines on the boss being giga fast compared to hc

[tardy lark]

holymoly a title

[eternal sundial]

For both clips you need to leap on your leap favourite ranged

And murder them

[tardy lark]

2 officers right behind me one of them being the rl

[eternal sundial]

Annihilate all moonkin

[tardy lark]

bm hunter and arcane mage

mage bro is struggling

[eternal sundial]

That's a fire fight ngl

Just be the BM hunter

Once tuning is in

[tardy lark]

mage man is first death by a mile

are bm getting buffed

[eternal sundial]

I mean, not all deaths are self inflicted here

But the clips are all ur fault ofc

[teal pine]

do we get one catalyst charge a week

[tardy lark]

nah, healers said it was mostly a healer issue

[gaunt sonnet]

ah, so this is saying don't RB if you have less than 100 rage and opportunist is ready, so that you consume Opportunist with Crushing Blow instead?

[tardy lark]

yes

[eternal sundial]

@tardy lark send me the exe thing and i can prolly make it during break btw

Need to check the base structure

Already got most of the arguments for condition covered

[tardy lark]

im at work, so i cant send you the baseline exe WA, but just cook off of Cones WA i guess?

[gaunt sonnet]

why does the < 100 rage thing matter? If you are at > 100 rage and have opportunist, why wouldn't you also Rampage -> CB to consume opportunist?

[eternal sundial]

I think that's the play

[tardy lark]

if you are below 100 rage, the rage gain from pressing rb with opportunist maths out to be better 🤷‍♀️

if you are above 100 rage, it obviously skips that line

[barren coral]

for spells that have like, 5-8 target softcap

does it have smart prio to deal the most dmg to the high hp targets?

[eternal sundial]

IIRC ww goes off of proximity

[unborn notch]

Does smart prio exist in wow?

For damaging spells

[eternal sundial]

For aug kinda

But that's buffs

[gusty fern]

guys how much nerf will affect us in raid ?

[unborn notch]

Ah ok and healing does in some cases but afaik no damage spell works like that

[gaunt sonnet]

doesn't the line say to press RB if you're below 100 rage and you don't have opportunist? So basically, if you have Opportunist and you have enough rage to press Rampage, press it and consume Opportunist with CB.

[eternal sundial]

It's milking enrage while playing around cb + opp yes

[barren coral]

this might sound dumb but can anyone explain me how can 2 similarly geared fury warriors that did not get unlucky mechanics can have wildly different dps results?

it cant be all rotation diff

[sand crest]

it is all rotation diff

if theyre similarly geared

thats the only variable left

if they both didnt get mmechanics

[barren coral]

im not counting embellishments/enchants/potions etc

since i cant track those well

[sand crest]

all tier 3 enchants vs 0 enchants at all can make a fair difference but I doubt that would be the case

what ilvl and what fight are we talking?

can also be a diff of knowing fight timings and sending cds on adds if ur talking raid

[barren coral]

just generally im trying to get better parses and look around videos/warcraftlogs