fury

[fickle cedar]

sudden death and marked for exec

[hard widget]

You only play AJ on full full st, which is only 2 fights realistically

[fickle cedar]

yeah I know im just answering to someone asking what to track

[honest sundial]

forgot Rashanan?

[hard widget]

But BB is higher prio than RB

[low folio]

ya

[hard widget]

Thats just lame

[radiant plank]

Imagine doing aoe on rashanan

[fickle cedar]

but they said on the lumbering site that they die to passive cleave

[sick jungle]

it ain't on the charts

[worldly thunder]

guys any tips for fury in solo delves t8 for better survivability ?

i get hit like a truck

is the regular mythic build not it ?

[sick jungle]

I'm gonna go pure ST this week for rash

let my guild figure out how to deal with the adds

[low folio]

i was trying to explain why bb would over rb but im kind of tired, took something to go to sleep

[nocturne dragon]

set your brann as healer try to take the potion he throws.

[worldly thunder]

hmm i did

[sick jungle]

reminds me I still gotta do the let me solo him achieve

when does season 1 of delves end?

[storm meadow]

if you're not running HC you'll discover that it's better to go monotarget

[nocturne dragon]

I think when s1 ended Volvo

[sick jungle]

you're saying it's better to go ST in mythic?

[nocturne dragon]

also the ?? difficulty unlock after t10 delves or something? I heard there is prequisite to unlock it?

[fickle cedar]

yeah t11

did it as solo prot its kinda annoying as fury

[hard widget]

HE MUST BE ON THE WCL TEAM 😮

[low folio]

i eat food

nam

[heavy nacelle]

I use defensive stance and pull mobs individually with throw, if I zugzug into large groups I get demolished in 2 seconds

[weary sail]

hopefully they wont nerf fury anymore 🙏

[rough quiver]

yo everyone, i am a wow noob and struggling with DPS in raids. prob a combo between ilvl and just not knowing how to pump DPS. Can anyone explain ST vs MT builds for raids to me as fury?

[weary sail]

I really dont think fury is OP like everyone crying out to be

[hard widget]

There is 2 builds, one with roar and whirlwind, the other one with spear and without whirlwind

In aoe u press whirlwind to cleave, in st u dont

Thats the difference

[warm crag]

Ye this is true but I don't sit in sky hold and cry about being beaten in every key

[heavy nacelle]

well obviously looking at the raid dps charts right now it's middle of the pack :p

[civic current]

Fury definitely not op anymore lol

[rough quiver]

How can I learn a good rotation? feel like im getting rekt on DPS

[warm crag]

Ye after wclogs is starting to remove add damage from logs

[fickle cedar]

yeah fury would be top 5 with rashanan adds

[civic current]

Fury got shitted on once again along with 2 huge nerfs in one month if not more

[warm crag]

Fury/warrior still absurdly relevant in raids

[heavy nacelle]

even if the adds are part of the boss fight? ;O that's dumb

[hard widget]

You can watch video's, look at the priority on wowhead. And review your logs

[weary sail]

Dps a golem till u reach close to ur bench mark

Thats what i did

[clever belfry]

yes u do

how does this make you feel

[weary sail]

Logs battle

[warm crag]

Crying so much right now actually

[civic current]

I’m gonna get shit ton of mastery then like 30 or more haste and pray that I do over 800k ST at 615 I lvl

[clever belfry]

30 haste olly molly

go fast king

[civic current]

I’ll let you know the results when it happens 🤣

[hard widget]

Or... There is a tool that calculates it for you, if you go to Raidbots.com you can simulate ur character for what gear is best for you

[warm crag]

I have 31!!!

[civic current]

Yeah I def gotta do that, thanks for the reminder

[hard widget]

Just start learning it, because whenever you will ask anyone about stats or what gear they will all revert you there

Because its impossible for any of us to tell you what is best, computer knows it better

[weary sail]

Btw should my loot specialization be arms and not fury? Keep getting useless 1 h weapon lol

[hard widget]

arms

[weary sail]

Fml

[civic current]

Oh yeah I know, I’ve been playing fury since shadowlands, ever since they shitted on it. I let it go then came back to it this exp, but know I think more haste than what computer says will be ideal for more stabilized dps in my opinion

[weary sail]

Really should just remove 1 hand loot from fury table at this point

[sick jungle]

how dare u

[hard widget]

I mean u can do what you want in terms of stats, but everything u do differently from what the robot tells you is dps loss.

[iron portal]

unless you are robot yourself. In that case carry on

[hard widget]

x)

[weary sail]

Unless blizz ever make dual 1h viable, why even have it as an option

[iron portal]

Its viable, not optimal

[hard widget]

Because SMF is an option

[weary sail]

20% less damage isnt what i would day viable

[sick jungle]

because not everything has to be the best

[civic current]

I’ve used raid bots for my fury back in the day and did like 20k more dps than it called for. But I do like it

[weary sail]

Its playable, not viable

[sick jungle]

bad things need to exist

[burnt kelp]

be happy, you have the option to spec arms and act like smf doesn't exist

[sick jungle]

exactly

[burnt kelp]

frost dk doesn't even have a spec that allows them to ignore 2 handers

[weary sail]

🙏

[solar moss]

does anybody know if target cap nerfs are live already?

[burnt kelp]

despiste 2handed frost dk not existing

[sick jungle]

it's somewhat of a non-issue tbh

[sick jungle]

not live

who knows if it will even go through, it's coming to PTR

[burnt kelp]

ofc to compensate fdk is broken as shit

so there's that

still pretty annoying

[solar moss]

thanks bro

[sick jungle]

i kinda wanna try rolling fdk but Im currently gearing up a boomkin

and man it's fun

[weary sail]

If they keep nerfing our burst aoe i hope they buff sustain aoe / ST to compensate. Im coping ofc

[civic current]

Also raidbots isn’t accurate btw

XD

It counts in for procs and RNG

[iron portal]

What are you on about

[lofty dove]

guys how can drop this item: Fractured Spark of Omens?

[solar moss]

huge cope but if that doesnt happen fury will be so ass XD

[iron portal]

WEekly activites in main city, Delves too if you are behind

[burnt kelp]

m+ chests work too, if you are behind

[iron portal]

Then i guess any relevant content if you are behind

[lofty dove]

this week i dont have drop it but for now i have 0 delvs complete

[iron portal]

and for that week its weekly qeusts

[burnt kelp]

for this week it's the shitty 100 fragments

that don't drop in m+

😠

[iron portal]

kill zekvir 2 times on ? dificulty

and you have it in 5 minutes done

[burnt kelp]

ohhh, thanks

[sick jungle]

titan discs don't drop in m+?

[iron portal]

actually prob 3 times

[burnt kelp]

they don't seem to, no

[sick jungle]

tf LMAO

[nocturne dragon]

world boss gives 50

[sick jungle]

oops caps

[iron portal]

But still , i did it on 600 alt in 10 minutes

easiet quest

[lofty dove]

fragment for create a key?

[sick jungle]

world boss only gives 50 if you're not in a raid group

[crisp bronze]

Yeah I got 0 and everytime I tried to drop raid I'd chamge phases

[nocturne dragon]

oh? that is new.. well I was doing it not in raid group after weekly reset so I just got 50, never thought that being in raid group will not grant it

[lofty dove]

oh ty i finish now this shit mission ty for answer

[weary sail]

Theres no point ever playing ST Fury right when Arms is just so much better (ig only if u hate arms a lot)

[fickle cedar]

the shit you find lol

[coarse nest]

Arms is so unbelievably boring this iteration

And I normally love arms

[weary sail]

nah man legion arms was an abomination with the stupid focused rage mechanic

that almost made me quit Warrior

[coarse nest]

WUT

Legion is literally peak arms bro

3x focus raged into massive MS Crit

Mmmm

Take me back!

[weary sail]

nah man fk focused raged

that playstyle was so ass

fury was good in night hold tho

draught of fury

[fickle cedar]

[sly zenith]

Haha yeh first raid tier focused rage 😂

[sick jungle]

i tried it for 1 pull of sikran and i had no idea what i was doing

[sinful spoke]

I did a couple pulls and its insanely squishy compared to fury

It hits harder but it gets hit harder too

[upbeat plume]

Honestly since ToM is dead arms feels fine if a little stale as not a ton has changed rotational since df

[sinful spoke]

Idk man waiting for ms reset feels bad

[oblique trail]

It's only really squishy if you don't know how to live on it

[upbeat plume]

Ph yeah speed wise it's gone way down but what buttons yout hit haven't really shifted in priority other then slam taking over as st filler

[sinful spoke]

Yeah for sure i just need more practice on it

[oblique trail]

I've only died to oneshots on Sikran so far

As Arms

Because I messed up or someone else placed a clone on me

[sinful spoke]

I bled out like twice and just got sniped by boss a couple more

Then i swapped to fury

[sick jungle]

i really need to hit a target dummy and learn the arms rotation

[oblique trail]

I do wonder if Sikran's charge counts as an AoE or ST ability

[sinful spoke]

Not much to learn

[sick jungle]

but from my 1 pull on sikran it really just felt like spamming OP into MS

[hard widget]

Invest in FDK stonks, less buttons than arms more dps 🤡

[oblique trail]

Because if it's AoE, you can be tankier as Arms when you gotta go out of melee

[sick jungle]

and execute when I could

[sinful spoke]

Just gotta get through ur head to spam overpower and slam to reset its Cd

[oblique trail]

Because in essence it more or less boils down to this rn

[verbal rivet]

Boutta level as blood today ngl.

[sinful spoke]

I will say though mid pull arms execute doing 4m dmg pop is crazy

[sick jungle]

or am supposed to only execute with 3 marks as arms lol

[hard widget]

Im level 75, today lvl 80

[eternal sundial]

You shoulda seen fatal mark..

8 mil fatal in s3

[oblique trail]

Die fatal mark die

[eternal sundial]

Fuk tom

Die fatal mark

[sinful spoke]

Oh i know

[verbal rivet]

Finishing bear before that and will be able to dungeon spam with 5 stacks of XP buff. Should also hit 80 today

[sinful spoke]

I got a 14m fm on smoldy once im psure

[weary sail]

Im convinced if u like focused rage playstyle ur a masochist

[sinful spoke]

Real

[eternal sundial]

So glad it and blord are dead rn

[sinful spoke]

U know what felt good

That talent that randomly reset ms

The gambling man

Getting 4 procs back to back

[tulip swallow]

The government doesn't want you to know this, but focused rage was more or less equivalent to heroic strike

When you were outside of the burst it's a little weird that it's on a seperate gcd, but that makes it feel so good inside the burst

[zealous stone]

are we playing arms in m+ after this coming nerf or what

[weary sail]

when build path was more simpler

[nocturne dragon]

playing FDK

[clever path]

Dem were the days

[tulip swallow]

Old bloodbath

[weary sail]

focused rage should die in a hole

[zealous stone]

is it that busted?

[restive pewter]

paul atreides my goat

[tulip swallow]

Right now it's insane, yeah but I feel like they're gonna get shot too

[zealous stone]

long live the figthers

[clever path]

Playing fr with prydaz and leap legs is masochistic

[weary sail]

what do u mean DK is so tanky

[tulip swallow]

At the bare minimum deathbringer is confirmed getting a rework, idk if that will turn out to be a nerf or not

[iron portal]

God i hated 30 level row

utility or mobility and some specs got both

[zealous stone]

yea that was so bad

[weary sail]

DH rotation looks crazy this expansion

[dense elbow]

DH is either that or SL 2 button

nothing in between

[dusty bluff]

What class is dh

[eternal sundial]

It's bloated cuz the thing renames spells

It's not that bad

[restive pewter]

demon hunter

[dusty bluff]

Oh

[chrome plover]

it's so bad

[fiery hare]

can do same for fury

[chrome plover]

i hate that shit

10 globals to set up my dam

no thank u

i know some of those 10 do dam

but it just feels like meta waiting room until you finally backflip+meta

no thank u

[eternal sundial]

Ig

[verbal rivet]

Damn, bro can’t hit 3 buttons to do full burst combo. Bad Spec

[young tendon]

would rather press focused rage then fcking slam

[chrome plover]

exactly right

[dusty bluff]

Where can I find sim or parse for the current fury build for st and aoe please I’m trying to compare mine I’m at ilvl 592

[narrow narwhal]

Get your ilvl up first friend

[dusty bluff]

What do you recommend ilvl for heroic raid?

[sick jungle]

595-600 bare min for hc raid ig

[narrow narwhal]

Probs like 600 tbh

[lofty tiger]

hey , dumb question but is there any way to macro Mad queen's to cds ? I remember you could still use Beacon to the Beyond on 2nd click of the macro with gcd etc

[dusty bluff]

Is 596 Ilvl doing 530k on a 2 min parse is that good? St

Using the cleave talents tree

On dummy test not real fight

[winter shoal]

People usually use 5 mins as a standard, not 2 mins

[dusty bluff]

Oh ok

[winter shoal]

Seems a bit low to me though

[dusty bluff]

Ok thanks it should he like 600? 700?

[winter shoal]

You can sim on raidbots with the fight style as "target dummy" and compare against that

Note that the sim won't include battle shout if you do that, so your damage will be ~5% higher in practice if you do use battle shout in your testing

[dusty bluff]

Ok tysm

Where can I go to sim

Sorry noob here

[winter shoal]

raidbots.com

[dusty bluff]

Thx

[winter shoal]

Here are some logs from when I was testing things before M+ released, I was doing 600ish in 5 mins tests at ilvl 577 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WKYLPNH7mzfc8GCq

[tender seal]

So. Tonight on brood. The cook: play double on use. Use transmitter with avatar, and with of+bs i use Mark of Khardros

Then adds gonna get minced

[idle ember]

Noob question is shockwave really our only int for m+?

im getting flamed

[winter shoal]

Pummel

[dusty bluff]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nQp3ExddxbCUtwpLmFJPYe

Well well well I need to check my rotation cause I’m doing something very wrong lol

[warm crag]

Storm bolt fear kick

[winter shoal]

Does anybody take intim these days?

Such a dogshit ability

[tulip swallow]

It's been kind of complex for a while now, since at least amirdrassil

I personally blame vengeful retreat mostly, that button is so ass to try and work in

[warm crag]

Either storm bolt or fear p much

[eager thorn]

What fear do we get?

[sick jungle]

you can drop something for it if you really want it for ascendent affic week

affix*

intimidating shout

[winter shoal]

Intim is target capped though

Not very good for getting the ascendant orbs

I'd even argue that SB is better bc if something is out of range of your shockwave, you can SB it, but if it's out of range of your shockwave you can't really intim it

Unless it's like behind you, but at that point just step back a bit before shockwaving

Or let the healer do it

[sick jungle]

i don't think there's ever a reason to drop SB in m+

[crisp bronze]

Shockwave is good for packs that have a bunch of casts going off at the same timd

[sick jungle]

but if intim shout is capped then it's pretty useless

[hardy cargo]

inb4 no matter what stun/fear you take they just re cast anyways

good changes blizzard

[sick jungle]

tbh I never bothered to spec into it even during that affix

[barren coral]

do you guys usually get some good value vaults every week on multiple chars or just on your main

[sick jungle]

main is where I fill it out

alt is just 4 fun

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-hell-drug-rick-james-chappelle-gif-12612090

[weary sail]

my GOAT trinket

[acoustic zephyr]

Are there any pins/cheat sheets for builds/strategies per raid boss?

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/nerub-ar-palace-raid-tips

[unreal shell]

Depends on the week. I wanted to do a lot of M+ on my main this week so the alts got nothing haha

[fathom valley]

my pink log facilitator

Convergence + Draught 😢

[merry pewter]

question for rotation, do I let bloodthirst charge up before I use or just keep it on cooldown?

[fathom valley]

on cooldown

[merry pewter]

👍

[fathom valley]

remember that you wanna bt/bb before every rampage

due to 2 set

[sick jungle]

i thought execute at < 3 marks is a dps loss

[golden hare]

sometimes it is!

[magic mortar]

Anyone solo a T9 delve yet? What Brann build did you use?

[drifting pond]

can we start dooming with the upcoming changes

nerfs*

[upbeat sentinel]

I forgot to loot crests off one of the last 2 bosses on H

Do those crests not mail?

[unreal shell]

What do you mean start?

Everyone has already rerolled or uninstalled

:>

[nocturne dragon]

I'll take break on 28th Feb 2025 then

[drifting pond]

im just going prot

[unreal shell]

Unlucky

[eager thorn]

Fury will be fine

[weary sail]

Thats why its low on priority list

[eager thorn]

Rerollers are weak

[unreal shell]

I know, I was hard trolling

[upbeat sentinel]

are we getting nerfed again

[weary sail]

But its just funny to me that Slayer are based on execute and execute arent that high priority haha

[kind sundial]

Prot is fun tbh

[drifting pond]

prot executes are satisfying

[weary sail]

Prot execute hits harder than Slayer Execute

[dusty bluff]

How come

[nocturne dragon]

because fury's execute is different.

[steel shard]

necrotic 10

this class is fine guys

warrior needs nerfs

[nocturne dragon]

it's fine it's fine

[hardy cargo]

thats photoshopped warrior doing augvoker damage

[upbeat sentinel]

buff Frost

[heavy nacelle]

but how do we know that the Frost guy isn't a better player than you? :p

[steel shard]

im the dk

[nocturne dragon]

because he is the DK

[heavy nacelle]

ok then how do we know that Fury player isn't terrible?

[dense elbow]

Git gud, a good warr would do more than the FDK

[dry spire]

Huff huff pass. Always remember

[warm bramble]

kinda Hopium

[upbeat sentinel]

Anyone else have issues with forgetting to loot bosses and NOT being mailed the Crests?

[nocturne dragon]

because maybe that fury player is his friend? surely frelya know about his friend

[steel shard]

he is decent yea

not terrible

not revvez

[covert blaze]

no

just loot the boss

[eager thorn]

Nah

[upbeat sentinel]

I'm missing the crests off of H Silken now 😦

[eager thorn]

0 shot we dont get any other changes + the nerfs go through

[covert blaze]

rip

[steel shard]

if that nerf goes through

warrior is DEAD

[eager thorn]

For you

I still play

[dusty bluff]

The nerf for oden fury?

[dense elbow]

Dead is taking it a bit far, but you would be one step away from being a burden to your friends :P

[warm bramble]

i'm not gonna keep going with dps warr if thats goes through

we already struggle why should i suffer more

Sadge

[nocturne dragon]

everyone reroll to tank warrior then?

[eager thorn]

Wdym we already struggle lol

[nocturne dragon]

we shieldslamming!

[warm bramble]

thats what i'm planning

[weary sail]

i dont think fury is struggling lol

we are middle of the pack

[eager thorn]

Ye not at all

[dusty bluff]

What nerf are y’all talking about a new one or the oden fury one?

[eager thorn]

Our st sucks but iiwii

[steel shard]

just

frost dk

is stupid

[weary sail]

but if they keep nerfing fury again and again then we are fked

[steel shard]

like try warrior in really high keys

[eager thorn]

What do you consider really high keys

[river reef]

2+

[eager thorn]

Damn too high for me

[steel shard]

12+

[eager thorn]

I dont think warrior not being great in pushing keys is too much of an issue

Since most ppl prob wont even go that high

[steel shard]

i will

[weary sail]

The trickle down effect is real

[heavy flax]

#updates-midnight

[humble plover]

I'm not doing anything higher than a 10. Title is big lame. Therefore effort towards it is also big lame

[weary sail]

People will want to run meta comp even in 9s and 10s

For pug at least

Its not like Fury is bad, its still decent, but def not the best

[eager thorn]

Once i started getting higher ilvl and score it got easier to get into 9/10s

[nocturne dragon]

the thing is they will rather take a prot war than waiting for 1 more hour for meta tank since tank is a bit scarce compared to dps.

[weary sail]

Prot war is meta

I think DH Bear Prot Warr are all viable

[eager thorn]

Caring too much about meta is kinda cringe honestly

Ive seen so many fkin awful rshams so far

[olive wraith]

Pwar is huge

[eager thorn]

But they get taken cos meta :3

[dusty bluff]

So arms is better then fury now

[heady cargo]

people are pushing keys on prot paladin so i wouldn't worry too much

[dusty bluff]

Nice

[eager thorn]

No

[heady cargo]

not many, but a few

[weary sail]

The main problem is War has almost 0 utility compared to other tanks

Or dps

[eager thorn]

Fury > arms

[weary sail]

So if warr dps isnt amazing, why bring fury when u can bring other dps w better utility

[dusty bluff]

Ok

[feral ivy]

I want to tank off spec but honestly I feel like it’s easier to tank as a prot pally and DK because of the pull in and aoe silences

[weary sail]

Drums is like 6k gold a pop i aint buying that shit

[radiant kettle]

What is the best way to run a sim to get accurate Trinket data? There is no way Patchwerk ST is the way to go, because if so sims tell me Mandate isn't an upgrade when I have veteran/champion garbage trinkets atm lol.

[winter compass]

is it best to rock double authority of the depths enchants?

[thick fossil]

LOL fair enough

[nocturne dragon]

speaking of double depth, is the chance to apply the dot increased or the dot's damage increased if we use double depth? or even both?

[clever mural]

Best for st

[feral ivy]

I remember reading or watching a video saying depth is bad in keys because the dmg is only during combat and once combat ends it IMMEDIATELY ends not like signet where you have some time to start combat again. But I still see ppl running it in high keys (11s and 12s)

[dusty bluff]

Looks like I’m gonna make a DK

[gusty cloak]

that DK fucks lol

[steel shard]

this is a terrible take btw

[runic glacier]

its not as if warriors bring other stuff to make up for lower dmg

[trail bane]

its because its the best enchant for raiding and people dont have two sets of weapons yet and dont want to pay to swap enchants any time they are doing keys or raiding.

[sick jungle]

here it is baby

[steel shard]

like what

xd

dks has grips

insane actualy

and ams is balanced

[sick jungle]

_ U T I L I T Y_

[weary sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046046500578406479/1290311603769708634/Screenshot_20240930_145715_Discord.jpg?ex=66fbffd3&is=66faae53&hm=6a0267d3a6802919826c754aecc0d126c1b5a299c23eaf69952de96a632edf6f&

621 mil gold

[runic glacier]

tbf grip is unironically insane and amz is better than rally

[steel shard]

yep

the amount of times i played on warrior

and just wished i had a grip

[runic glacier]

especially in pugs

[eager thorn]

Why

[crisp prism]

Remember they said grip was originally designed for warriors

then they developed dks

[steel shard]

if its not good in high keys

whats even the point then

[eager thorn]

Not every spec will be good in high keys tho

[steel shard]

na but like

its not great now

and its getting nerfed

thats the issue

[indigo hedge]

🤔, over 619 sac

[hazy spruce]

Yeah that’s a problem, we should be complaining about that.

Everyone here know that Aug evoker beats fury in st? HOLY HELL

[remote zephyr]

Every spec is viable though. Some are just better than others.

[steel shard]

[sick jungle]

apparently the dagger be crazy

[hazy spruce]

You keep saying every spec viable they will leave the dogwater classes in the gutter

[remote zephyr]

You’ll be at a disadvantage playing something like assassination rogue but if you can’t climb that’s still a skill issue

[hazy spruce]

Viable isn’t fun, viable just makes it so your friends play with you

[forest owl]

when a priest PI's himself in your key but he's using Twins

[crisp prism]

don't accept the garbage ask for better

[remote zephyr]

Fun is subjective, people like their classes

[crisp prism]

nerfs are unjustified

[hazy spruce]

Everyone believes doing good damage is fun. So essentially everyone is on my side.

[remote zephyr]

Everyone does damage with gear brah

Not everyone surfs Warcraft logs for 99 parse

[hazy spruce]

So yes, or no, should augmentation Evoker beat a fury warrior on single target?

[remote zephyr]

Idk what that means

No

Do you have a source where they do?

[hazy spruce]

All right, then. If you say anything else, other than to buff fury… ur against us

I post in a sec

[remote zephyr]

Eh?

[crisp prism]

30% gap on a 99 is beyond a trash balance

[inner harbor]

they actually almost do

[crisp prism]

fury gear scaling is so bad atm

[burnt kelp]

holy shit i thought he was meming

[sick jungle]

what boss is this

[burnt kelp]

naaah that's so funny

[crisp prism]

pure st sikran

[hazy spruce]

This is mythical sikran

[sour frigate]

Ww moment

[hazy spruce]

St fight. Mythic Sykran

FURY WARRIOR IS DOGSHIT

[molten wing]

there is a reason why you play Arms on the ST fights

fury has shit ST

[runic glacier]

what are these stats based on?

[sick jungle]

just switch arms

[heavy dock]

boss damage

[runic glacier]

ok ty

[hazy spruce]

Boss dmg

[crisp prism]

this includes rashanan logs which got removed add damage

[hazy spruce]

Fury warrior can’t do boss dmg

[crisp prism]

its not 100% accurate

[hazy spruce]

They are literal trash.

[fast zealot]

Do i sim m+ via dungeon slice or patchwerk against 5+ targets?

[hazy spruce]

If you still playing fury warrior right now you coping.

[inner harbor]

patchwerk, 1 target

[heavy dock]

why would it? its boss dmg

[crisp prism]

my details says i did 1.45m last night and logs say 770k

idk ask warcraftlogs devs

[molten wing]

if you wanna parse on Rashan

you go full ST now

[heavy dock]

ok but how much u did to the boss

[crisp prism]

yes

[heavy dock]

cuz thats what graph says

not total dmg

[fast zealot]

I just got Queen Anzurek Trinket on HC is it really that good in keys?

[crisp prism]

and tanks gets deleted by adds

[inner harbor]

Pi cancels out the dps u make when u got buff on

[crisp prism]

0 pi

rashanan adds doesnt count

[inner harbor]

damn L

[crisp prism]

thats last weeks hotfix on logs

[runic glacier]

is the boss dmg on mythic or heroic from that graph?

[crisp prism]

but problem is if adds dont die tanks die

[heavy dock]

yea number 1 fury log on rashnan is a 43 now

xD

[inner harbor]

no idea boss

[crisp prism]

yep

[heavy dock]

after changes

hilarious rly

[crisp prism]

on details

on logs

and if i go st tanks die

cuz fury basically solos the adds

[sick jungle]

wdym the adds aren't important

either go ST fury or switch arms

silly

[median token]

because removing adds that are lethal if they stay up was stupid and wowlogs dev is dumb

[gusty fern]

👍🏻

[feral ivy]

Is there a massive difference between the 2 enchants?

[sick jungle]

all that matters it that pink 99 😤

[dim wadi]

😂 another nerf seems like you cunts need to play a real class after all

[crisp prism]

last 1.5 months ish i'm basically realizing everyone hates warriors

[sick jungle]

i already rolled a boomkin lol

[heavy dock]

how long does it take for rio to update ingame

like i killed ansurek 3 days ago its still not updated lol

[crisp prism]

do you have desktop app?

refresh and reload

[hazy spruce]

Bro, smart as hell

[heavy dock]

i do not

[crisp prism]

just get the app tbh

[hazy spruce]

I’m surprised that silken tomb still counts for logs

[heavy dock]

cuz that mechanic is like twice as important as the bugs ig

[young swan]

nah its cause its boss 8

[crisp prism]

anyways imma go cry in a corner while looking at legion cinematics

[edgy widget]

ok team, what do we think?

[sick jungle]

warriors think now?

[edgy widget]

the good ones do (not you)

[sick jungle]

looks good

[mossy fox]

yooo archi adopted the graphic

i like it

[edgy widget]

oh it's not just a graphic

we got tooltips up in here

[mossy fox]

insane tech

[runic glacier]

looks clean and easy to understand which is important

[edgy widget]

this might have cost us a raid tier

[frank dawn]

worth

all raid tiers do is get fury nerfed anyway

[edgy widget]

it's actually something WH has been working on for a long while, but kept getting pushed for other development

[weary sail]

On maxroll it say to pop reck first and pop avatar after we rampage, does it matter?

[storm birch]

that's sick

[crisp prism]

quick question isnt it better to hit crushing once before bladestorm

[runic glacier]

WH's guide format always looked nicer to me

[sick jungle]

the difference on the ST opener i've heard is miniscule

[edgy widget]

you can get pretty complicated with it too, but I like to keep things simple

[sick jungle]

if archi macros it I macro it

[edgy widget]

read the text; there's no actual need to pre-cast Reck with RA talented (in fact, it can even be detrimental at times)

[weary sail]

Okay wasnt sure if i should follow wowhead or maxroll

[edgy widget]

follow your heart

[sick jungle]

follow whatever critcake does

except when he gets our class nerfed

[edgy widget]

if you precast correctly there's no real downside to precasting, and a lot of us do it out of habit anyway

[weary sail]

Pls tell them to stop nerfing us

[edgy widget]

but precasting too early can be detrimental, and w/ RA/Berserker's Torment you don't actually need to - regular Charge generates 20, RA generates 50 rage, and Avatar generates 20 (x2 with Berserker's) for a total of 110 rage on the pull without precasting (and then the following Bladestorm is going to re-cap you anyway)

[sick jungle]

i think critcake should go on max's stream and tell them we suck now

[sick jungle]

good to know I've always feelycrafted this and never did what was originally said about precasting

makes a big difference on my blue parses

[crisp prism]

i've been precasting for years you cant make me not to at this point

[edgy widget]

in the past, pre-casting was more viable because
A) We didn't always use RA / Titanic Rage
B) Reck/Berserker's Torment didn't generate extra rage from Avatar
C) We didn't have Bladestorm to cap rage during the opener, so generating >80 rage had benefit beyond the initial Rampage

But now, single target rage is carried by RA and Berserker's Torment, while multitarget Enrage is handled by Titanic Rage and Bladestorm rage caps us anyway, so it's been simplified

[runic glacier]

he's a dk main now

[sick jungle]

ah, makes sense

[sick jungle]

pour one out for our fallen warrior 🫡

[weary sail]

Theres no point playing fury for pure single target right, just play arms?

[hardy cargo]

sure there is, if you want to play fury then just play it 🙂

[edgy widget]

Aside from the main point of perhaps just not wanting to play Arms

[sick jungle]

yo archi, in m+ aoe do you press CB or BB first? I know what the rotation guide says, I'm just curious what you prefer doing

i know crit hits BB first

[edgy widget]

When the going gets tough, the tough get going... and @mossy fox gets gone

[weary sail]

Critcake always hit bloodbath

[edgy widget]

CB is better than BB unless there are a lot of targets

[mossy fox]

it's for a good cause

[edgy widget]

not our cause

[hardy cargo]

a very selfish cause

[mossy fox]

got to back up my dooming with something substantial

[sick jungle]

omg crit is massive brained, he's going to become the dk main that max brings on for his next objective tier list video

so dk gets the nerf, warrior gets buffed

[edgy widget]

Critcake playing the 4d chess, by main swapping he's driven attention away from Warrior, forcing Blizz to buff it to the point of people wanting to play it again

[crisp prism]

crit pumped too hard and nerfed fury

now he is gonna make dk get nerfed

[sick jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[crisp prism]

i can see the big picture

[hardy cargo]

inb4 he just calls for more warrior nerfs so his time spent on dk isnt wasted

https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-gif-7617358462219751730

[mossy fox]

i've already played this game in df when i played mage

it's definitely gonna work again

[sick jungle]

did mage get nerfed in df?

[weary sail]

No

[sick jungle]

[weary sail]

Mage will NEVER be bad

[forest owl]

shhh they could be watching

[weary sail]

Blizz fav child

[gilded pawn]

What about shadowlands critlock

[mossy fox]

warlock was immune to nerfs in shadowlands somehow

but i was also much less powerful

not that i hold that much power now...

[crisp prism]

didnt they say when they realized , it was too late and they kept it like that cuz of it

[weary sail]

Aug ?

[sick jungle]

wasn't that s4 of df though

like tuning during s4 even mattered

[crisp prism]

nah sepulcher lock

into fated lock

[sick jungle]

oh nvm

i was thinking of the rain of fire bugged shit lmao

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/perfetto-yes-gif-26163077

[crisp prism]

at this point i have a feeling if they release legion classic they will nerf fury there too

[clever path]

Honestly, I would play dk if they got CB BB Ramp OF BS Reck Ava TR

[dusty geyser]

is powerful enrage better than frenzied enrage for m+?

[thick fossil]

Oof, sad but prolly not wrong.

[clever path]

Even in raid I believe

[mossy fox]

should be marginally better in dungeons yes

[hardy cargo]

powerful better aoe frenzied better st

[mossy fox]

i haven't noticed a damage difference between the two

[crisp prism]

same

[humble plover]

Frenzied fast AF boi. Powerful is molasses

[crisp prism]

only thing i noticed is i'm too slow when i play powerful

and i dont like that

[runic glacier]

powerful enrage with no cd's feels sad in comparison to frenzied yeah

[frank dawn]

powerful feels like ass to play, but since they seem balanced it's not really a big deal I guess

[mossy fox]

almost like fury is supposed to be fast

[humble plover]

That's my appeal for it. Big stick swing fast

[forest owl]

just have to pull the entire dungeon then.

[clever path]

Powerful enables longer play time for hands lol

[mossy fox]

just get better hands/wrists/fingers

[hardy cargo]

im rocking 20k haste and still play frenzied bc I love the carpal tunnel

[nimble ermine]

you can always go faster

[hardy cargo]

true I have been using hissing runes time to swap howling

[mossy fox]

maybe if you add more RGB lighting to your setup and a gamer racer chair you'll be immune to RSI

[dusty rose]

So that's bad because i don't use CB this much ?

It was a NW +10

[sick jungle]

hey man, I love my secret labs

[clever path]

CB should be like second

[humble plover]

Gotta have more RBG and my secret lab chair for maximum haste

[thorny shoal]

it is well known that RGB mousepads absorb bad energy from your wrists

[humble plover]

Think if I make fans blow in my face I'll swing faster in wow?

[edgy widget]

to break down this math a little bit (counting all direct damage increasing talents, but ignoring the minor +crit bonuses for simplicity)

• CB does 463.4% AP + 254.9% AP per extra target, that's 1,482.9% AP vs 5 targets
• BB does 281.8% AP + 154.9% AP per extra target, that's 901.7% AP vs 5 targets
• Reap does 228.4% AP per target, that's 1,142% AP vs 5 targets

So that's 1,482.9 w/ CB vs 2,043.7 w/ BB + Reap, except Reap has only a 41% chance to proc vs 5 targets, so it's actually 1,482.9 w/ CB vs 1,358.5 w/ BB + Reap

While Reap adds +1% damage via Overwhelm, most small adds don't live long enough for that to really stack up and Crushing Blow also adds 20% damage to Rampage and 15% Crit to Bloodbath, which is a lot more damage in the long run. The biggest difference is that Reap is soft capped at 8 targets while Meat Cleaver is hard capped at 5, so if there are a lot of targets, then gambling Reap may be slightly better, but you need a lot of targets

[sick jungle]

so you're saying critcake is wrong

[humble plover]

That's a lot of math man. I'm just here to zug

[clever path]

We gambling now ? We outlaws lesgooi

[weary sail]

damn!

[sick jungle]

lots of targets, gamba

[mossy fox]

i'm a gambling man

[sick jungle]

got it

[edgy widget]

ultimately it's not a big difference which you use first since most of the time you're pressing both in between Rampages anyway

[mossy fox]

^

[crisp prism]

i had to wait 1 hour 15 minutes to find a tank for necrotic 11 2 days ago

[fickle cedar]

Yeah although if adds are gonna die super fast I assume BB i guess

[edgy widget]

if there are a ton of them, yeah I usually prio BB first

[crisp prism]

and it depleted on first pull

[weary sail]

theres like 1 tank for every 40 dps

[crisp prism]

you forgot a 0

or maybe 2

[edgy widget]

also Necrotic 11 is getting into the big boy keys, so there are even less tanks per dps

[crisp prism]

feels like no one is playing a tank

compared to df

[clever path]

Because it's horrible rn

[edgy widget]

every dps thinks they can do high keys
most tanks understand whether or not they can live high keys

[weary sail]

u get all the blame

DPS dont kicks

[fickle cedar]

the raid is boring to tank

[weary sail]

healer blame u if u dont if u die

fk that

[hardy cargo]

I feel insanely squishy when im tanking this tier compared to other tiers

[crisp prism]

idk man this morning i had a tank in stonevault and first pull he legit said '' run ''

and pulled everything including all golems till first boss

we depleted ofc

[dusty rose]

Crit 18% Haste 32% Mastery 35% and 3% Versa is that okay or should i have more versa ?

[weary sail]

if they made tank OP, it will still not be popular

[crisp prism]

i dont think he understands what he can live or not

[hardy cargo]

I think stonevault is the hardest pug key rn

[velvet obsidian]

gigachad

[edgy widget]

sounds like they perfectly understood it, which is why they told you to run!

[crisp prism]

lol

[last nacelle]

No first ? And rampage second ?

[inner harbor]

osef de la poly

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-lotr-fly-fools-gif-5144058

[velvet obsidian]

They were playing like it's SL and they gotta kite everything up and down the hallway probably. Good thing those golems take slows right?

[dusty rose]

Okay merci 😉

[buoyant salmon]

tanks are op

[weary sail]

+7 Ara Kara https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1289217763193258096/ert.png?ex=66fbf99b&is=66faa81b&hm=07a2e607f435b86a688cac483cd660182f05faa7c9721ad73459376d1ebb5130&

[buoyant salmon]

theyve been op

[clever path]

It's a matter of few numbers between them so 1 or 2

[weary sail]

compared to DF, tanks are way weaker

[gusty cloak]

dang you have alot of haste! i barely have like 19%

[buoyant salmon]

in df tanks were immune to ever dying

[sudden tusk]

HE HATH SPOKEN

[buoyant salmon]

outside of like 3 enemies

[burnt kelp]

that was great

[weary sail]

and even then tanks are unpopular

[velvet obsidian]

Real?

[inner harbor]

in Critgoat we trust

[burnt kelp]

now i'm trembling at the knees every time a tank pulls because once in a while they just die first second

[buoyant salmon]

i agree bc you hold all the risk in the key with very little reward for most players

ppl like to compete with other dps

[mossy fox]

if only

[weary sail]

tanks: most amount of responsibility, get most amount of blame, always yell at, dps yell at you, healer yell at you, if ur route is not perfect ur an idiot, need perfect boss positioning, 1 mistake = brick key

[sudden tusk]

lmao

[golden hare]

true tanks should be able to solo dungeons

[crisp prism]

i used to solo dungeons as dh tank to not deplete my key back in legion

😢 i miss legion

[weary sail]

legion was peak

but TWW is pretty good so far

[verbal rivet]

The solo DHs in Maw of Souls 15 was wild

[crisp prism]

arcway halfway through the group leaves

dh tank solos rest

in 2 hours

[velvet obsidian]

TWW is solid. I just wish we'd stop getting nerfs because Blizz designed a raid around Fury's AoE burst window.

[verbal rivet]

You only take the L if you quit

[humble plover]

Get nerfed and be happy about it

[thick fossil]

Arcway and Maw can both stay forgotten.

[weary sail]

life of fury warr get used to it

[velvet obsidian]

Not the first time and it won't be the last

[verbal rivet]

I’m leveling tanks, bc they rarely get nerfed to being unplayable.

[thick fossil]

I've had to run Maw so many times it makes me sick.

[golden hare]

why level new character when prot owns so hard

[verbal rivet]

I hope it’s the S2 flashback dungeon ngl

[velvet obsidian]

The prot switch is super tempting

[golden hare]

do it

[buoyant salmon]

yeah idk why ppl dont just play prot

[golden hare]

you take like 0 damage

[buoyant salmon]

its basically a dps disguised as a tank

[golden hare]

but you also don't do 4 billion dps so kinda sad

[crisp prism]

for me its the same reason i dont play arms

[buoyant salmon]

i do higher overall on prot warrior than some ppl here do as fury lol

[velvet obsidian]

Two 2h mogs go hard tho

[buoyant salmon]

with no prot crafts

[restive peak]

To add to this, the 15% increased crit is likely to benefit when you're going to send both anyway

[buoyant salmon]

thunderfury + bulwark is og bis

[summer quail]

prot colossus does crazy damage

[buoyant salmon]

mog

[golden hare]

thunderfury 😴

[thick fossil]

Nah, they'll be something like King's Rest, Throne of Tides, Underrot, and Spires of Ascension.

[ember apex]

Prot colossus should have been 2Hander + Shield

[buoyant salmon]

if im doing 1.2 1.3m overall you can easy do like 1.8m with good crafts and a good aug

thats fucking juice

[verbal rivet]

De Other Side. Make M+ into a warzone again

[thick fossil]

LOL

[summer quail]

exactly. i did not mean it in the sense that you should out dps fury people, just mean in general prot colossus does insane damage

[weary sail]

if im capped on runed harbinger crest this week, can i exchange the lower tier crest to break the cap or am i stuck?

[buoyant salmon]

https://youtu.be/wAr--0VftJE?si=Kk5MwtjGGKDOD9wn

banger video

[young swan]

if we dont get motherlode back im gonna kick a baby

[molten wing]

you cant

[golden hare]

miss her...

[buoyant salmon]

when the first pull with lust takes a minute and a half you know ur cooked

[verbal rivet]

Could see them doing classic dungs as well, they just made timewalking for it. Deadmines +10 would be fun(depleting to parrots will be cancer)

[summer quail]

i'll take it except for spires. spires can go die in a hole

[crisp prism]

you will get lower tier crest from the same dungeon

if you are capped on everything you get nothing

[civic bobcat]

Guys, how to craft the 636 sword? Is there any guide you know?

[restive peak]

Dude yes

[buoyant salmon]

spires was super super bad

it was also cringe hard

[thick fossil]

I love how there was a pair of toys that you could use sololy for Spires. One to turn all the flappy wings into Corgis, and the other to lower the brightness on EVERYTHING

[young swan]

literally just make the burn on 3rd not as aids and its a perf dungo

[summer quail]

motherlode easily best bfa dungeon. gladly take that

[crisp prism]

i want tazavesh again

[buoyant salmon]

junkyard is forever my favorite key

lower karazhan was also super good even though i could never complete it

[crisp prism]

idk if i like tazavesh or the encrypted affix

[weary sail]

so if i want to upgrade my gear rn im stuck, have to wait till next week?

[velvet obsidian]

I just want dungeons that give me opportunities for juicy reflect tech

NW is lyfe

[crisp prism]

yes there are weekly caps

[molten wing]

bring back a quick Maw of Souls

[weary sail]

that is so lame

[buoyant salmon]

wasnt maw a bad dungeon

and ppl just liked it bc i was fast as fuck

[thick fossil]

It wasn't horrible

[molten wing]

you dont get an opinion on is it a bad or good dungeon

[weary sail]

maw was not bad

[thick fossil]

It was just spammed non stop

[molten wing]

you just keep doing it for AP

[buoyant salmon]

i only did it as heroic when it was current content

[weary sail]

there are worse dungeons

[thick fossil]

Hell, Halls of Valor was worse

[summer quail]

it's like the defintion of an okay dungeon. nothing that pisses you off, yet nothing you can say is great either

[young swan]

it had severe mechanic visbility issues

[buoyant salmon]

halls of valor is bad

[young swan]

otherwise it was fine tho

[buoyant salmon]

that was so cope when it got brought back

[pseudo rain]

Mechagon both wings on season 2. Ping me here if I'm wrong on the release notes

[verbal rivet]

I enjoyed it just bc big number from OF

[molten wing]

Cathedral from Legion on release bro.. MONKAS

[buoyant salmon]

all of the bosses are just bad bosses

[crisp prism]

they recently did that i doubt

i think tazavesh coming next

[young swan]

vault of the wardens is the best dungeon ever made

except for teh elevators

that part sucks

[thick fossil]

That was mostly the stairs area if I remember correctly. Shit just vanished under em

[buoyant salmon]

is that the one with the rock boy and the eye dude

[molten wing]

never was a fan of the last boss

[buoyant salmon]

and the spiders in the last area

[verbal rivet]

Nah. Vortex Pinnacle rerun 418

[young swan]

seeing harbarons scythes was ass

[velvet obsidian]

Skyreach incoming

[pseudo rain]

tazavesh is way better than mechagon
wing to wing

[crisp prism]

faulty countermeasure trinket

[buoyant salmon]

last boss was annoying asf but other than that it was fine

[young swan]

im not even kidding i fucking love that boss

[verbal rivet]

Plz no

[crisp prism]

i really want to use that trinket again

[molten wing]

the gimic is cool

[buoyant salmon]

idk if id say way better they are 4 of the the best dungeons

[molten wing]

it just gets stale

after you do it like 30 times

[young swan]

i ran that shit

endlessly

for titanforged soul saps

[verbal rivet]

I’d rather have Grimrail Depot

[young swan]

never got tired of it

[pseudo rain]

hell no dude that mechagon with the smoke bombs boss area + troggs boss area = L

[crisp prism]

i have a feeling we will get the argus dungeon at some point

[young swan]

just a fun dungeon

[velvet obsidian]

Grimrail depot without the motion sick change hit different

[buoyant salmon]

grimrail depot was so impressively bad with affixes

[thick fossil]

You are a man of misery. Aren't you?

[pseudo rain]

sanguine grimrail 🇱

[verbal rivet]

I ran it like 4 times lmaoooo. I just didn’t care

[buoyant salmon]

what is the smoke bombs boss

[crisp prism]

i think i did that once on mythic 0 thats it

[buoyant salmon]

machinists garden?

[molten wing]

imagine if Tol Dagor makes a return

[velvet obsidian]

Machinists garden man...

[verbal rivet]

Over Skyreach? And watching Morons spend 4 mins on the wind????? Yea

[molten wing]

man

[pseudo rain]

the area with 2 bosses a gnome male and a female
thrash sucks boss sucks

[summer quail]

can't wait for the new warrior external

[humble plover]

Bring back arcway. 40min+ key let's go 🙂

[buoyant salmon]

that trash was super cringe

especially with zul gamux

[velvet obsidian]

Atal Dazar my beloved

Come back to me

[buoyant salmon]

bad dungeon

[verbal rivet]

Cringe

[orchid dagger]

He thinks that's going to work when they gutted the Aug tech

[summer quail]

bruh we just had it

[orchid dagger]

[humble plover]

Pretty sure they'd make it not interact

[velvet obsidian]

I didn't play DF. Bring it back again 😡

[summer quail]

i mean hopefully they make it not interact. it's giga cringe

[restive fiber]

next season they will bring back halls of atonement and kings rest

[thick fossil]

I surprised ppl didn't hate Black Rook Hold that much.

That place was ass when it was current

[verbal rivet]

Who’s ready for Darkflame Cleft in keys…..

[humble plover]

God I never wanna run kings rest again

[verbal rivet]

That’s going to be so painful

[restive fiber]

but the sword

[velvet obsidian]

God please no

[crisp prism]

cuz it was the easiest one during s3

[thick fossil]

Yeah, that place is weird and gonna be sketchy as fuck.

[summer quail]

brh kinda owns ngl

[thick fossil]

Oh, so they made it a cake walk compared to when it was live. Ok, that's fine.

[verbal rivet]

Darkness on +10…..Stitchflesh pre nerf would be a joke compared

Priory in keys will slap tho

Same with Cinderbrew

[crisp prism]

tbh i dont like any of the new dungeons

[buoyant salmon]

it was aight

[buoyant salmon]

theyre all mid/bad

[crisp prism]

same with df

[orchid dagger]

While you are fucking with robot give me Thunderfury uptime

[crisp prism]

df ones also kinda sucked

[buoyant salmon]

academy goated dungeon

last boss stinker though

[thick fossil]

Cinderbrew won't be too bad. I see a could of those mobs being a problem, but doable.

[verbal rivet]

If black rook hold wasn’t edgy af people would hate it

[summer quail]

rookery owns. darkflame cleft depends entirely on how bad the darkness portion is

[buoyant salmon]

rookery if first boss is changed wont be bad

but like

[pseudo rain]

yes I dont like it either
stonevault and rookery are the best but still garbage

[buoyant salmon]

that first boss ruins the entire key for me

[summer quail]

ye if they change the first boss to be closer so we can melee it

[verbal rivet]

Gotta love a good hunter/mage/lock key

[buoyant salmon]

yeah bc hunter and lock look really good this season

[thick fossil]

Corruptions really did make us super broken. lol

[pseudo rain]

shadowlands dungeons peak dungeons besides halls of atenement bosses and sanguine depths gauntlet

[thick fossil]

The hell?

[buoyant salmon]

spires and sanguine were super bad

the rest were fine enough

[fading bane]

NW is quite dogshit

[cyan epoch]

spires 1st boss area was horrible for camera because of trees

[fading bane]

only decnt cus weps were OP

[thick fossil]

Plaguefall, THeatre, also suckewd

[fading bane]

and u did big pulls

[humble plover]

Theatre was sick

Especially that moment when you leave

Best part

[pseudo rain]

theather of pain had this floating islands area up to the lich boss
if u wiped it was a hell of a run back

other than that very good dungeon

[velvet obsidian]

ToP the best part was saving CDs for the boss that made you duel your friend and then you pop all cds for the PvP to assert dominance

[thick fossil]

LOL

[runic violet]

feel like powerful enrage does than frenzied... hmm

[humble plover]

Sure

[willow cradle]

Yes it does does

[humble plover]

I'm a big fan of when.. so cool

[cyan epoch]

I think SL was my fav xpac for dungeons too but I didn't like NW

[heavy dock]

does anyone else know how to set up alts in raider io? i have them on the server and on the app and they still dont appear as alts in game with main progress

[young swan]

first room trash is gonna FUCK

[thick fossil]

As long as we never see Throne of the Tides again, I'd be fine.

[summer quail]

idk, lots of area denial and the casts that slow you by 70%. i can see it being a nightmare

[drowsy maple]

kicking purveyors kinda trivializes that whole section

since there aren't any other kicks iirc

[fossil hull]

just trying fury for first time form arms beating on dummies

does the break down look fine?

[wicked flicker]

That's genuinely 2 weeks of heroic and normal raid where I've gotten literally 0 loot

[fossil hull]

or am i missing something

[wooden lagoon]

When r those next fury nerfs coming

[young swan]

the announced ones? sometime in october

[silver pier]

Which M+ is performing better? MT or Slayer?

[jovial coral]

mt

[clever path]

Use crushing blow more. Usually should be higher damage than rampage

Usually

[quiet yew]

https://youtu.be/YO2oDHnNuz4?si=XTrXRIIQ9AJCplGq

[crisp prism]

slayer

[quiet yew]

Actually blizz have to fire the entire department that is responsible for this

[warm crag]

i think they need a raise

[serene vessel]

chat anyone here have a samsung phone?

[median marsh]

in mythic ulgrax, bladestorm can clean the webs?

[warm crag]

yes but i feel like you only have it up like once per fight when theres stuff to clean

unless you hold bladestorm for it you do you but dks can just walk through i

[serene vessel]

i wonder if u can SR them?

[warm crag]

no

[serene vessel]

sadge

[warm crag]

i mean sure try it

[serene vessel]

you can SR the tentacles in grim batol and they function similarly so you never know

[quiet yew]

U serious

[warm crag]

ye ofc

how much do you think game devs get paid lol

[quiet yew]

Ah thats the reason Why they f*** us so bad

Happy game devs = no nerfs

[warm crag]

i think you got nerfed because the spec you play was insanely broken for raid

[quiet yew]

But not for mplus

[hardy cargo]

this raid was basically designed around fury it feels like

[warm crag]

who cares about m+

minigame inside of the game

[hardy cargo]

we r so op in raid and get fucked across the board for the entire game

[warm crag]

reroll to dk immediately if you are a minigamer and hardstuck melee

[crisp prism]

who cares about raid ? i'm in there 6 hours a week

while i play 20 hours m+

[warm crag]

sorry to hear that

[meager void]

Yeah you tell em!

[hardy cargo]

why not care about both

[quiet yew]

Yeah ofc lets nerf fury and ignore the other overtuned classes

[warm crag]

warr has been relevant for minigame like once in the past few years and it was in the patch before aug got released

[serene vessel]

just play fire mage

[crisp prism]

sorry to tell you but that minigame is more like main game atm

[serene vessel]

it fun for m+

[warm crag]

like you are doing something very wrong if you exclusively care about m+ and still play warrior

[crisp prism]

i like the class

[warm crag]

then be the best at it without going to forums crying about it

[crisp prism]

???

[quiet yew]

Fury is known for a dynamic and aggressiv gameplay

[warm crag]

every melee is

[crisp prism]

if its underpowered imma ofc ask for buffs

fdk is pumping harder then our prenerf

and untouched

[warm crag]

relevant for one fight in raid

this is a lie i dont actually know how many fights theyre relevant for

[crisp prism]

same as fury

[warm crag]

fdks are absolutely not a 2x of in every single fight in raid

[crisp prism]

neither fury

[main cave]

what talent gives the heroic leap charge in thane? i apparently dont have eyes and cant find it

[eager thorn]

what text do i add to macros to cancel bladestorm?

[warm crag]

fury's a 2x on most fights and you can play 2 arms on all the others

[hardy cargo]

why would you cancel bladestorm

/cancelaura bladestorm

[warm crag]

thane cant kick or stun during it

[hardy cargo]

thane doesnt run it tho right

they run rav

[eager thorn]

just died on p2 ansurek cos i couldnt leap out from the pull lol

[warm crag]

true

[hardy cargo]

bs immunes it

[eager thorn]

i died so idk

[hardy cargo]

so if u held for another 1/2 sec or so u r chillin

[crisp prism]

since when is the topic arms ?

[warm crag]

not after it expires

[crisp prism]

also after nerfs fury isnt that desireable atm maybe for mythic ansurek

[warm crag]

rwf was done with 2 fury what are you on abt

[errant vessel]

I have it on my charge/heroic leap macro

[hardy cargo]

well ya must be spinning when pull occurs

[warm crag]

and arms is always apart of the conversation if you're talking abt what a class brings to a raid, if you expect one class to be best in all fights and m+ you're asking for a tiny bit too much

[crisp prism]

i'm comparing 2 specs

fdk and fury

[hardy cargo]

ig I could elaborate better, if you are spinning when the pull actually happens, then you are fine

[crisp prism]

you are bringing arms

[eager thorn]

yeye ik

[crisp prism]

i give 0 f about arms

[eager thorn]

it was just really shitty timing

[crisp prism]

also again

who cares about wf