and they become non-bountiful once completed (or depleted) that day
#fury
chrome plover
buoyant salmon
you did zdps idk man
quartz tulip
that was last fight
of grim batol
homies just press divine storm and sleep thru the dungeon
molten wing
you should have at least slapped him on the bosses
quartz tulip
i won on all bosses except last boss
and he slammed trash packs
he just has damage always
vale dove
No shit he has wings on 30 sec CD
forest owl
if u dont have cds up for small adds last boss batol that might be a factor aswell
molten wing
playing uproar for me helped me keep up a bit with aoe as well
having OF/Breath every 45 secs is decent
south kayak
No shit he has wings on 30 sec CD
That's such a good passive lol
That alone makes me wanna try Ret
molten wing
the uptime on wings is even more tbh because every time you use a holy power spender
you also have a chance to proc wings
south kayak
Yeah
sage cloak
Question. U can only have 2 embellished items on right?
molten wing
and the 30 sec wings is tied to wake of ashes which also blasts
south kayak
The rotation without Radiant Glory was/is very static
but Radiant Glory brings in some excitement with the procs or Wake of Ashes
molten wing
its all fun and games until you have to do actual ST
on the boss as ret
and then you cry
south kayak
Idk, I don't think it's that bad tbh
Slightly lower than Fury and Fury has really good ST in M+
that's not an issue
nocturne carbon
did i just press my buttons better?
vestal root
rets ST kinda rng
sleek zenith
on wowhead it says transmitter is bis but i dont really see alot of warriors using it, is that just outdated?
nocturne carbon
on wowhead it says transmitter is bis but i dont really see alot of warriors usi...
its conditional on use can be a pain
ashen siren
Does rampage have priority over raging blow even if enrage is up?
sleek zenith
its conditional on use can be a pain
sim looks like this so should just go for the helmet then?
nocturne carbon
sim looks like this so should just go for the helmet then?
transmitter is bis but 'jump 3 times/find the small orb or stand in the circle in a sea of visual shit' can be a pain
i tried it and vendored it
maybe diff for you
pearl sequoia
Wonder if wings are bis for m+
chrome plover
on wowhead it says transmitter is bis but i dont really see alot of warriors usi...
transmitter owns
im surprised it doesnt sim higher for you ngl
mighty swan
Any fury doomers
mossy fox
i like transmitter
it's easy enough to use since the spawn points are always the same
if it was random it'd be ass
chrome plover
spinning 90 degrees on ovinax so my orb doesnt spawn under his fat ass 📈
mighty swan
Transmitter sucks to use khardros / skarmorak ftw
south kayak
revert soft cap changes or i'm not playing warrior
south kayak
that'll show em, one person not playing warrior
eternal sundial
But not everyone has it
forest owl
what flask do you guys use in m+? I'm wondering if it's better to go something more consistent since alchemical is random
nocturne carbon
the DF vers flasks i still have in my bags...
south kayak
I use alchemical everywhere
hey can you make video every day calling to revert changes
forest owl
I use alchemical everywhere
ugh yeah i keep forgetting that potions are influenced
forest owl
i would very surprised if blizzard didnt see gripcake and immediately revert the nerfs tbh
south kayak
lmao
pale lava
fury is turbo fun for me rn if these fuckers make me change class it's gg
south kayak
it's so easy to change class anyway
blizzard will see fury logs plummet and they'll buff us 
pale lava
it's easy but
I am genuinely having a lot of fun gameplay wise
with fury right now
and at the end of the day this is a video game
we play it to enjoy our time
mossy fox
Fury gameplay is great rn yeah
pale lava
I was watching u crit yesterday night
fdk looks fun too but not as fun as fury
but the numbers though, damn
torn sentinel
i like transmitter
Used it on the ship from breaking dawn, stood 10 sec in the orb to soak. never worked. vendored instantly after 
worldly thunder
hi guys, what haste/crit/ and matery % should i be aiming for ? (for m+ and raidig)
mossy fox
dawn ship is quite special
torn sentinel
but its a crazy trinket, where if you use it well it owns
worldly thunder
currently 15 haste 15 crit and 35 mastery
mossy fox
my ravager used to fly off the ship on beta
south kayak
fdk looks fun too but not as fun as fury
more damage makes it more fun for me lmao
torn sentinel
Would be something if you charge on ship (when it actually works cause thats also buggy) you would charge off the ship
teal pine
Fdk feels like arms but cooler imo. And I’m a big arms fan
forest owl
currently 15 haste 15 crit and 35 mastery
each player has to sim their character really, we cant say X stat is better, but generally you'll be wanting more haste with those current stats
worldly thunder
ok i thougt there's like a known target need to achieve
iron portal
hes 611 im 616
you cant outdps same skil level ret unless he keeps dying anway
iron portal
playing uproar for me helped me keep up a bit with aoe as well
Im thinking of tkaing it. just not sure what to give up first
forest owl
ok i thougt there's like a known target need to achieve
just remember haste and mastery are bis fury stats, 15 haste is a bit low, aim to get that up first
idle wolf
mossy fox
Fdk feels like arms but cooler imo. And I’m a big arms fan
i kinda see that yeah, definitely way better than current arms
worldly thunder
ok thx guys
south kayak
BoS is so fun
mossy fox
and with breath it kinda feels like surrender to madness which i had a lot of fun with in legion
smoky vale
i think the worst part about playing frost is being overcapped on resources during cds
south kayak
and with breath it kinda feels like surrender to madness which i had a lot of fu...
BoS is not like it was before, you can't keep it like a lot
mossy fox
yeye
south kayak
it has some sort of diminishing returns
like 40 seconds i think
Which is nice, it would be kinda unexciting if you're keeping up breath for the entirety of the fight imo
mossy fox
yeah i got a 35s one yesterday on dummies just before i logged off on my lvl 77 dk
south kayak
it's like reck in DF lmao
teal pine
I’ve only tried breath on dummies a few times
chrome plover
teal pine
I get so dizzy
chrome plover
squink and chawiedk rising (not really)
teal pine
Trying to keep it up
south kayak
i think the worst part about playing frost is being overcapped on resources duri...
me when 2 stacks of KM and 0 runes
mossy fox
chawiedk rising??
chrome plover
tbf chawiedk has 0 score and has been 595 for almost 2 weeks
warm crag
Used it on the ship from breaking dawn, stood 10 sec in the orb to soak. never w...
Me when I vendor my bis because one of its three tasks doesn't work in dawn breaker for like 30 seconds out of a 30 minute dungeon
smoky vale
me when 2 stacks of KM and 0 runes
0 idea waht that means but popoff
chrome plover
Ill, some might say
chrome plover
like 10 globals before i can just press meta and blow my load on a pack
miss me with that shit
south kayak
you usually use them like that regardless of demonsurge
you don't need that many globals
that's how it's always been but i can see how it can be annoying for some
Unless they remove Demonic Transformation, you're gonna do some shit before meta lol
chrome plover
isnt it like immo > hunt > sigil > fel rush > immo > fel rush > eyebeam > 2x demonsurge > essence break > backflip + meta
and you kinda have to do it like that
feels icky
molten wing
doing all of that feels like i'm in Naruto and i'm doing all the Jutsu signs before doing the ability 
chrome plover
yeah legit
smoky vale
isnt it like immo > hunt > sigil > fel rush > immo > fel rush > eyebeam > 2x dem...
bro just ripped a whole dh opener
swift citrus
Guys, is from 2set to 4set significant upgrade in dmg?
south kayak
I saw firsthand today what dhs can do to a raid lol
some dh dashed to the green circle on queen
chrome plover
Guys, is from 2set to 4set significant upgrade in dmg?
not really
south kayak
and had us all knock up way too early
swift citrus
Couse I have a 2set and I am already doing some good dmg, I am not sure what it will look like after
molten wing
and you kinda have to do it like that
also smh its immo > sigil > hunt
swift citrus
not really
I assumed
smoky vale
isnt it like immo > hunt > sigil > fel rush > immo > fel rush > eyebeam > 2x dem...
so close
south kayak
that's aldrachi reaver
molten wing
that's aldrachi yeah
south kayak
we're talking about felscarred
smoky vale
ah i just went to maxroll raid
south kayak
no one plays that
because downtime = big dps loss
reminds me of SL
Sinful Brand
south kayak
Same
chrome plover
dogs out prim wave out and slam
molten wing
need a remake on that one
smoky vale
both maxroll raid & m+ shows aldrachi
south kayak
im enjoying enhance a lot <:bedge:882323848844963860>
That moment when you press Tempest after Primordial Wave and Wolves
south kayak
https://tenor.com/view/skibiridob-demonhunter-gif-27712674
hahahahah
chrome plover
both maxroll raid & m+ shows aldrachi
at the start of the expansion felscarred didnt work with mastery
iirc that bugfix was a big buff and now everyone plays felscarred
ruby comet
2 questions, 1) is there a website to track most optimal CD usage for each boss, so I can know when to hold/sync with phases? 2) what bosses is it good to swap to arms, just sikran/kyveza?
south kayak
https://tenor.com/view/skibiridob-demonhunter-gif-27712674
damn that is actually an accurate description of the rotation
thought it would be random lol
chrome plover
2 questions, 1) is there a website to track most optimal CD usage for each boss,...
most of these bosses are just send on cd, but you can look at lorrgs.io
ruby comet
ty
south kayak
honestly playing DH is basically suicide watch in m+
so many things that can hit you
while you're jumping around and dashing
that's gonna be a no from me
sudden tusk
https://tenor.com/view/skibiridob-demonhunter-gif-27712674
didnt that guy die
south kayak
didnt that guy die
I guess he's a dk now
chrome plover
ty
I think maxroll also has a boss specific guide for the raid but idk if it’s got mythic
(if you’re asking about heroic you could look at that)
south kayak
Grim Batol is so bad on a ranged caster that has to stay in one place to do the rotation
can't stand for a second without getting hit by something
south kayak
grim batol checkpoints are really bad
yeah, the runs are so bad lol
south kayak
at least fury can leap through the thing
mossy fox
-15 on death is still crazy to me
smoky vale
holy powerful gif
south kayak
LMAO
molten wing
im in the DH discord just for those types of memes
south kayak
Why do people always equate complexity with dps
that's not true in wow at all
nor should it be
south kayak
god bless
smoky vale
legit so fun
bitter palm
/castsequence reset=30 Recklessness, Charge, Rampage, Odyn's Fury, Bloodthirst, Thunderous Roar, Rampage, Avatar, Bloodthirst, Rampage, Bloodthirst, Rampage, Bloodthirst, Rampage, Bloodthirst, Rampage, Bloodthirst, Rampage, Bloodthirst
south kayak
stop
bitter palm
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage
south kayak
I want OF and TR to be worse
so we can do more consistent rotational damage
make WW hit 8 targets
chrome plover
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1228393050791739583/1263187643055997009...
great gif
bitter palm
maybe thats what they are doing with these softcap nerfs
smoky vale
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage
south kayak
It makes a lot of sense that they'd do that, they saw firsthand how extreme it is when you have giga burst in raid on bosses that have adds like that
south kayak
@bitter palm
bitter palm
make fury fuck on 5t sustained and st
south kayak
So they're probably trying to move away from that
bitter palm
fuck it
south kayak
fuck that
bitter palm
hard cap us even
bitter palm
sub is new outlaw
south kayak
oof
bitter palm
trickster sub*
bitter palm
surely they cant just change the modifier on imp ww
south kayak
if we're capped to 5
surely 55% is not enough
make it 80%
We'll see what happens
mossy fox
uncapped meat cleaver with 100% damage
south kayak
it will determine whether i play fury or not
mossy fox
10 second uncapped meat cleaver
chrome plover
south kayak
No compensations = -1 warrior player
chrome plover
they also dont have to press an extra ability to upkeep the buff
bitter palm
10 second uncapped meat cleaver <:yep:703420923625078804>
infinite second
peak
kingsbane owns tho
mossy fox
fdk also just kinda hits all targets while pretty much doing ST rotation
south kayak
idk, I saw someone say that after seeing the nerfs video
south kayak
fdk also just kinda hits all targets while pretty much doing ST rotation
that's true
mossy fox
love it when people spread fake news
south kayak
might need to soft cap Reaper's Mark further
radiant plank
fdk also just kinda hits all targets while pretty much doing ST rotation
Fdk on Ovinax
Most broken spec
south kayak
Fury is not that far behind
radiant plank
Top damage on all but parasite if you have enough fury warriors
south kayak
but yeah FDK is just insane
torn sentinel
No need to play something else, they will buff warriors
south kayak
FDK is definitely gonna be seeing nerfs because of ovinax
torn sentinel
BM hunters can also get a nerf 🙂
radiant plank
Fury warrior
south kayak
mossy fox
whatever's on top on wcl
chrome plover
idk i think just fdk and pres
south kayak
Why is preservation so good on ovinax
torn sentinel
whatever's on top on wcl
Filter by normal raid right? so we can get another nerf
mossy fox
pres is insane everywhere
radiant plank
Why is preservation so good on ovinax
Time dilation
helps with tank hit thing alot
mossy fox
Filter by normal raid right? so we can get another nerf
sure
south kayak
Filter by boss damage
chrome plover
Why is preservation so good on ovinax
it's just doing insane hps compared to every other healer, like 20-30% more
chrome plover
it deletes the tank mechanic and the healing absorbs on ovinax with np
we have a holy priest frantically trying to single target the healing absorbs
chrome plover
and pres can just beep boop the whole thing
south kayak
might be more tho
south kayak
and pres can just beep boop the whole thing
damn
unreal shell
It's time to learn Arms, Fury brothers
south kayak
is enha broken
torn sentinel
can we bring back colossus smash for fury and 400% stormbolt damage to immune targets, would love me some MoP fury action
mossy fox
It's time to learn Arms, Fury brothers
fotm reroll in protest!
chrome plover
on st at least
bm is way ahead of enha
unreal shell
I would but I already have 2 friends I M+ with who play FDK
chrome plover
but yeah it's up there
unreal shell
I DO have an enhc shaman at 80
south kayak
fotm reroll in protest!
I'll be fine with the soft cap to 5 targets if we're getting a compensation for non CDS tbh
unreal shell
I can pretend I'm playing Mountain Thane, but actually do lightning damage
or...any damage :>
south kayak
imagine if thunder blast hit like tempest
bitter palm
bm is way ahead of enha
until theres any aoe at all
chrome plover
I DO have an enhc shaman at 80
it is giga fun i would recommend
yeah true
but box said ST
south kayak
Thunder Blast sounds better than tempest
why does it do less damage
sus
I love how enha has a bunch of abilities literally hitting for millions
LB, Tempest, Elemental Blast
bitter palm
south kayak
all 1m+
bitter palm
and arms isnt first
south kayak
damn arms is that good at ST? lmao
south kayak
rashanan is a st fight
bitter palm
and still loses to arcane
unreal shell
I think Arms sims ahead of Fury in ST and MT now
unreal shell
insane
south kayak
random? idk arcane has had that for a long time
arcane barrage deals 100% more damage on execute
bitter palm
not arms levels
chrome plover
arcane barrage deals 100% more damage on execute
130% actually
bitter palm
legit in s3 it was assa>arms>fury>>>>>>>everyone
south kayak
that's assuming you use the sunfury talent
sometimes you'd rather use extend on arcane surge on st
south kayak
legit in s3 it was assa>arms>fury>>>>>>>everyone
I don't think arms should have the best execute
it doesn't matter to me
eternal sundial
I don't think arms should have the best execute
L
bitter palm
L take
chrome plover
i think arms should have the best execute in the game
ofc it should
wtf
and i dont even like arms
chrome plover
south kayak
not fury, in general
radiant plank
I don't think arms should have the best execute
Explain
bitter palm
need to find az's shut up box
chrome plover
ionic bone
is the overclocked gear better for m+ even tho we lose nearly 3k str ?
chrome plover
probably not
teal pine
Feels weird to me I guess when arms isn’t best execute but execute has always been my least favorite part of warrior gameplay
eternal sundial
is the overclocked gear better for m+ even tho we lose nearly 3k str ?
Gear is a st trinket
chrome plover
that corrosive organ does pretty well on aoe
radiant plank
I just don't like only doing damage on execute
Thats why u in fury chat
chrome plover
real
south kayak
why did i think walhe is wallife
radiant plank
why did i think walhe is wallife
Dont check my bio
bitter palm
ionic bone
that corrosive organ does pretty well on aoe
What do u mean AoE, it's pure ST
south kayak
raids in echoes
LMAO
ionic bone
it does 1% of my overall in m+
bitter palm
@radiant plank go join echoes 
radiant plank
<@865605822638063647> go join echoes <a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
They already got better warriors than me
bitter palm
bitter palm
south kayak
4 warriors
is nomeratur tanking
bitter palm
no
worldly thunder
need some advice, noticed another fury was doing 200k more dps than me in a raid, with equal ilevel and build, i noticed his rota has a very less number of raging blows while mine has al ot, how to avoid that ?
worldly thunder
it was a pug so deff not logged, i am deff doing something wrong with my rotation i guess
well maybe logged but i dont have it
spiral gyro
I guess the others here can help you better when you provide them a log 🙂
Maybe send a log from a test dummy?
bitter palm
make sure to spend both cb and bb
ramp -> cb -> ramp/bb
if u can ramp cb ramp cb
u do that
if u cant u ramp cb bb ramp cb bb etc
south kayak
What’s with resto shamans in m+
worldly thunder
yea ramp cb bb is what procs more for me
dont have ramp again after 1st cb directly
south kayak
worldly thunder
i shoul never be spending RB and bloodthirst when theyre not procced the n?
south kayak
You should to get enough rage for rampage
worldly thunder
i dont seem to generate enough rage to keep rampage going fast enough for procs
one cb and 1 bb does not generate 1 ramp
bitter palm
yeah then just fill with rb
worldly thunder
i just wonder how that guy was doing so much more damage with me with 1 less ilevel and same build
hard cradle
do you know Plater MOD that change nameplate color by Marked for Execution 3x?
worldly thunder
this is me
bitter palm
ur cb is way too low
devout totem
number of rampage cast should be equal to number of CB cast
bitter palm
^
worldly thunder
and this is him
south kayak
I can see the issue
worldly thunder
number of rampage cast should be equal to number of CB cast
ok im spamming rampage way too much
chrome plover
he is simply pressing more buttons
bitter palm
haste
worldly thunder
yea maybe
lapis shadow
I love being 10 ilvls above a paladin but in avg 300k less dps
At least my burst is strong (copege)
worldly thunder
so bring up my haste, push buttons faster (somehow), and use CB more often
south kayak
I love being 10 ilvls above a paladin but in avg 300k less dps
and you're getting nerfed next patch
south kayak
Indeed
lapis shadow
(my paladin is ilvl 600 it's basically a 610 Fury warrior)
ionic bone
in aoe or st
ionic bone
ara kara gives a lot of haste, and knife gives mastery, maybe thats why
ionic bone
no idea mate, i'm currently at 37% and i'm not doing as much as i'd like
i also still can't my hands on a mastery trinket
detachable fang and skyterror in +10 feels CRINGE AF
ionic bone
i should spam delves then
bitter palm
permanent mastery
tawny geode
hmm
bitter palm
and the uptime on the stat loss is low
tawny geode
i did my 30th run ara kara 9 and paid the dude 200k for ara kara sacr with avoidance
fuck me then
seems like its worse 😄
ionic bone
kekw
magic magnet
chrome plover
i did my 30th run ara kara 9 and paid the dude 200k for ara kara sacr with avoid...
fervent yoke
is 21% haste too much?
chrome plover
no
mossy fox
gimme that hc transmitter
chrome plover
gimme that hc transmitter
no
mossy fox
then hopefully i'll be priod for mythic transmitter
south chasm
Any word on if they are going to buff fury ST or they want use to play arms?
tawny geode
chrome plover
then hopefully i'll be priod for mythic transmitter
play the long game
tawny geode
mental
chrome plover
i always fail every tier and get good hc gear week 1
then no mythic gear
because some dh with a giga dogshit item sims +1million dpsupgrade
mossy fox
yeah i suffer this curse because i nolife m+
chrome plover
quick buy BTC
tawny geode
quick buy BTC
😭
hardy cargo
I forced the druid in my push grp to trade a slight weapon upgrade to a pug for my sacbrood he’s my bitch fr
devout totem
sheesh
warm crag
gimme that hc transmitter
Noob!
mossy fox
i prolly dont get priod for most upgrades tbh
unlikely an item sims higher for me than others
radiant plank
Your sub rogue will yoink the mythic transmitter anw
warm crag
U are in for all bosses tho or
mossy fox
ye
warm crag
Legit not wrong to offload every hc super rare on you
mossy fox
my argument should be that fury owns on ansurek so give me stuff
queen linden
Crit is there mainly for BS and motivation.
radiant plank
Stack DN
warm crag
Do u have ring at least
drifting stirrup
my argument should be that fury owns on ansurek so give me stuff
unless PTR nerfs go through 😦
warm crag
Overwhelm working on it is so stupid
dusty rose
What's your stats (%) in your war ?
warm crag
Ptr going live is more than a month away probs
oblique trail
What's your stats (%) in your war ?
6 gazillion haste%
warm crag
At that point we have mythic gear and the raid is nerfed and we have the % dam buff
drifting stirrup
if they dont nerf Brood and Kyveza we might be more than a month from kill 😄
warm crag
Current brood is totally fine imo
Would be sad if they nerfed that
Make circles more visible and it's chill
mossy fox
looks perfectly doable rn yeah
drifting stirrup
I agree, but only because we've already spent 2½ raid nights on it
mossy fox
egg mechanic still sucks
drifting stirrup
But lets be real, its completely overtuned for most guilds
radiant plank
Current nexus princess 
warm crag
Current nexus princess <:deadge:900279927138578432>
We pulled it like 5 times
Oly moly
radiant plank
We pulled it like 5 times
Unkillable without resto shaman
drifting stirrup
you need to fairy dust the eggs too, those swirlies hide everywhere
radiant plank
Great design
radiant plank
if only we could fairy dust bosses still btw
Arachnophobia mode on Ovinax
Makes the big spiders small
Makes game easier
mossy fox
i use that
oblique trail
Honestly spiders aren't the issue
mossy fox
just the boss itself is too big
warm crag
Unkillable without resto shaman
Idk I think roster requirement being there to kill a completely unnerfed boss is fair enough
oblique trail
Just that swirlies are so horribly telegraphed
And that you can barely tell if you're in the damage zone or not
warm crag
But I also raid in a guild that is okay with me saying that I will literally not play an alt and eat the bench if it's needed
radiant plank
Idk I think roster requirement being there to kill a completely unnerfed boss is...
1 tank fight or 3 healer is fine but needing one specific spec is xdd
mossy fox
the inconsistent floor/webbing around eggs are making swirlies harder to see too
drifting stirrup
this
warm crag
1 tank fight or 3 healer is fine but needing one specific spec is xdd
Idk we play wow this has been the case since vanilla
Bit late to raise a flag for this
radiant plank
Early enough for me Chatting
drifting stirrup
The swirlies under boss can almost be accepted. But 90% of the swirlies are invicible under the egg webs
radiant plank
Started playing sl s4
warm crag
Noob
drifting stirrup
I think if they changed the swirlies to not be cast during egg break, it would actually be fine
drifting stirrup
the overlap is the killer
warm crag
Sorry
south kayak
What's the hardest dungeon and why is it GB
south kayak
the inconsistent floor/webbing around eggs are making swirlies harder to see too
and the boss is fat
hardy shuttle
NW pugs are close competition
south kayak
They need to nerf the aoe of the aboms on 3rd boss
hardy shuttle
They need to nerf my teams extra action button to stop being cast on the dragon
radiant plank
which gnome
lament hinge
just go mechagnome
radiant plank
as warrior u have many root removals alerady
pseudo marlin
i wanna pvp too
radiant plank
pvp gnome is bis
dusty rose
"TrueHorde" and want to play Ally ?
pseudo marlin
my alts are all horde
nova salmon
oh man, feels good eventho twas after the nerf
hardy cargo
I wish so badly I could be human but use horde cities
restive granite
why there are so many posts in the forums saying that the upcoming nerfs are warranted
are they ret paladins in disguise posing as warriors?
ionic bone
oh man, feels good eventho twas after the nerf
does it give any good loot ?
thick fossil
why there are so many posts in the forums saying that the upcoming nerfs are war...
Huh? What forums?
restive granite
us
pearl crypt
lol pvp fury guide still mentiones annihilator
nova salmon
does it give any good loot ?
lol i wish, only a mount skin
restive granite
not the post themselves, but click on any of them. Full of peeps saying the nerfs are needed basically
ionic bone
lol i wish, only a mount skin
yea.. well fack that stupid mount
restive granite
yeah
thick fossil
Most of the posts I've seen there are dooming.
south kayak
oh man, feels good eventho twas after the nerf
Guess I have to do it, I haven't even done 9 tier
just did 8s
ionic bone
im already bottom dps in every 10 key, warranted nerf for sure
warm crag
You do know how much of a self report opening the wow forums and actually caring is right
ionic bone
meanwhile outlaws casually does 2m every dungeon
warm crag
im already bottom dps in every 10 key, warranted nerf for sure
I'm top dps In every key idk skill issue
thick fossil
Most people replying Most likely only know about the 10 and 15% nerf with the 3% area nerf.
restive granite
You do know how much of a self report opening the wow forums and actually caring...
this is the first time i have visited the forums, usually dont care that much but this is the one time i think the upcoming change is absolutely moronic
thick fossil
I've been keeping pretty damn close to ppl 10-12 ilvls ahead of me, so I can't complain.
south kayak
this is the first time i have visited the forums, usually dont care that much bu...
It definitely is and if it's not coming with any sort of compensation (WW Cleave damage, increasing cap on Cleave, rotational non-cd buffs), I'm dropping warrior
thick fossil
I'm hopeful that it doesn't make it to live. Not holding my breath. Just, yeah, if it does go live they really need to buff our ST a lot.
south kayak
I'd like to imagine this change is to reduce the amount of aoe burst we do so they can buff our non-cds later but that's just hopium
🤷♂️
thick fossil
The problem with the Official forums is that there are a lot of trolls and people that just don't understand shit when it comes to our class.
south kayak
Well, there's mutliple people like that for every single class
thick fossil
When you see a warlock make monthly complaints about spell reflect, you just gotta question IQ.
south kayak
I'd like to imagine this change is to reduce the amount of aoe burst we do so th...
If this was the case why not do that in the same patch notes, oh well..
thick fossil
If this was the case why not do that in the same patch notes, oh well..
Hopefully its because they haven't figured out what they want to do. It's still a month and a half out.
south kayak
That's true too
restive granite
also i doubt that the person pushing that nerf ever visits discord or receives feedback at all, and in the rare occasion that he would it would be from the forums. But thats just me speculating
thick fossil
Like I said, I'm not holding my breath.
thick fossil
Oh, I've already posted my opinion there, highlighted the nerfs in question and why I think it's unwarranted.
south kayak
I know exactly why it isn't warranted
it hurts m+ more than it does the raid
by a lot
so there you go
vast surge
Outlaw doing well now?
south kayak
even tho it was intended for the raid
clever mural
St in raids and dmg outside of cds made me start gearin my boomie 😂
steel shard
mine is at 621 now
south kayak
my main isn't even 615 lol
steel shard
my warrior is 621 aswell
thick fossil
it hurts m+ more than it does the raid
Yes, that is the reason I put.
south kayak
There's an issue though, if they keep nerfing OF, we might not even wanna use it anymore
They made a huge mistake making our aoe heavily reliant on CDs and that translates into what it did to the raid fights with plenty of adds
Rather just go back to the old AM Ravager fury
Buff AM somehow
Nerf RA
hardy cargo
The raid requires burst aoe profile then when the best aoe burst owns in the raid they nerf it
thick fossil
Yes, we know, it would be back to Shadowlands with us.
south kayak
Exactly, it's stupid
and then the next raid is gonna have barely any aoe
and fury is gonna be the worst
mark my words
Classic
south kayak
I know
hardy cargo
We are pretty consistently pretty low as far as high percentile ST dam goes which imo is fine
Very easy spec to play and perform well on
crisp bronze
I do miss the reck+ravager every 30s
nocturne dragon
Ok so what should we do about this situation? apparently complaining isn't helping much to reach blizz's dev.
dusty rose
I do miss the reck+ravager every 30s
Just imagine reck+BS every 30s
south kayak
We are pretty consistently pretty low as far as high percentile ST dam goes whic...
Would be nice if we could get the 4p buff at least for now
dusty rose
Too good to be truth
south kayak
If we do get an actual 4p that's good next tier
I imagine we would be way better off
crisp bronze
Just imagine reck+BS every 30s
Tanks aren't ready for bs every 30s
dusty rose
Tanks aren't ready for bs every 30s
restive fiber
Blizzard will nerf bs then
hardy cargo
Would be nice if we could get the 4p buff at least for now
The only thing on my wishlist for fury rn is some way to decentivize rage capping or profiting off of it through RA
Though I’m also playing some arms in keys that shit gets fun on higher key levels
hardy cargo
Well that just promotes AM more than RA
hardy cargo
My preliminary idea was something like CB/BB buff if unspent causes some effect when you press ramp
crisp bronze
You'd need rampage to be buffed for cb/bb not to be as high a prio wouldn't you?
hardy cargo
Since we wanting to press BB on aoe with slayer rn it could be CB does a lil aoe and BB does a ST effect
hardy cargo
You'd need rampage to be buffed for cb/bb not to be as high a prio wouldn't you?
You already forego BB if it would cap your rage
RB/CB has a lot of interactions and does a ton of damage is why you never skip it
south kayak
I think Slaughtering Strikes should be kind of a main interaction
RB/BT gives you one stack
execute gives 2
supple iron
Any tips to keep having high dps through the dungeon? Is it worth staggering cds or use them all at 1 pack? I burst 7-8m on big pulls but after I’m stuck at 1m ish
clever flare
this is the warrior now, from saturday getting worse again
molten wing
Any tips to keep having high dps through the dungeon? Is it worth staggering cds...
pick uproar so you can at least have OF stacked with Dragon's Breath every 45 secs
tribal dove
Hey legends. Looking at maybe switching to fury. Any good youtube guides out there?
supple iron
pick uproar so you can at least have OF stacked with Dragon's Breath every 45 se...
True. Might drop a defensive talent for that. Trying to beat my ele friend I just feel like it’s a losing cause
thick fossil
Hey legends. Looking at maybe switching to fury. Any good youtube guides out the...
WoWhead. Watch some streams. Critcake, uh, Biz still around?
Critcake or Bizentein
molten wing
True. Might drop a defensive talent for that. Trying to beat my ele friend I jus...
just drop one point from Armored to the Teeth
thick fossil
That's a lot of Str loss though.
tribal dove
WoWhead. Watch some streams. Critcake, uh, Biz still around?
I have read wowhead, but I didn't ask for written guides, I was merely asking for youtube ones to watch etc
thick fossil
I have read wowhead, but I didn't ask for written guides, I was merely asking fo...
I gave you two options that I know of.
clever belfry
I'm top dps In every key idk skill issue
play with humanoid frost dk thoughts
worldly thunder
Culling Cyclone or Brutal Finish for m+ ?
thick fossil
Culling Cyclone or Brutal Finish for m+ ?
by math, Brutal Finisher, but Culling will give you more ST. So it's up to what you want more of.
tribal dove
I gave you two options that I know of.
Well it's weird that I asked about youtube and got a reply in regards to written, but Biz hasn't uploaded anything on his YT, and Critcake only seems to have loaded vods of his keys and boss kills, and not an up-to-date guide, but I'll keep a look out
supple iron
Well it's weird that I asked about youtube and got a reply in regards to writte...
It’s not weird he gave you alternatives. He didn’t know of any videos.
mossy fox
what guide
thick fossil
Haven't seen that pop up in my Youtube feed.
inner shadow
where can i find the opener for fury?
half cargo
half cargo
All good, flew over my head lol
chrome plover
what guide
can you kill ovinax
and do commentary please?
tribal dove
what guide
Oh the big dog 🙂 I went to your yt and i can o ly see m+ and bosses you have killed recently, and pre-patch notes. Is there an up-to-date guide that I have missedm
half cargo
Woof woof
thick fossil
Wtf, this guide has Onslaught?
mossy fox
no i dont do guides
dense elbow
Your tindral guide was bis tho
tribal dove
Fair enough. Just trying to find a yt vid I can watch and shiz while I'm not able to get to PC. Any recommendations? A lot of the videos I see are people I don't know and am unsure if they are reputable
eager thorn
no i dont do guides
You might think that but watching your hc queen pov gave me enough info on how i should play the fight
Wasn’t necessarily a guide but big info
thick fossil
Fair enough. Just trying to find a yt vid I can watch and shiz while I'm not abl...
hence the problem of pointing ppl to Youtube guides.
tribal dove
hence the problem of pointing ppl to Youtube guides.
Well I figured someone might actually know a decent one
thick fossil
Well I figured someone might actually know a decent one
The only one I can honestly point you to without major speculation is the one on WoWhead.
mossy fox
You might think that but watching your hc queen pov gave me enough info on how i...
those guides im happy to do
but rotation and stuff would just be me reading wowhead
thick fossil
Keyword, "reading"
nocturne dragon
no i dont do guides
will you do FDK though?
dense elbow
but rotation and stuff would just be me reading wowhead
Crit WoWhead ASMR when?
mossy fox
maybe i'll just post a fdk m+ run out of nowhere and pretend nothing is different and im playing warrior
inner shadow
what's the new single target rotation priority list?
i see some using BT in that normal?
mossy fox
Crit WoWhead ASMR when?
dont think im desperate enough for that
dense elbow
Drink crit on the task when?
quiet geyser
maybe i'll just post a fdk m+ run out of nowhere and pretend nothing is differen...
Except you'll be doing 20% more damage 🙃
thin cliff
dont think im desperate enough for that
$20 is $20
forest owl
Crit WoWhead ASMR when?
+5000% subscribers 
mossy fox
$20 is $20
maybe if a blizz dev told me they'll make the changes i want if i do it
thin cliff
maybe if a blizz dev told me they'll make the changes i want if i do it
instructions unclear, 3% aura nerf
mossy fox
a 5th nerf has hit
clever belfry
a 5th nerf has hit
news flash buddy, we are up to 14
hardy cargo
Jokes on you we are gonna get whirlwind cleave dam 55%->60%
quiet geyser
Soon we back to 3% aura buff biweekly, don't worry
Lets not forget castle nathria. 24% in aura buffs.. just to be lower mid
half cargo
mossy fox
Jokes on you we are gonna get whirlwind cleave dam 55%->60%
a buff to our ST abilities would achieve the same thing
weary sail
When do i use bloodbath > crushing blow? If both are available
thick fossil
Lets not forget castle nathria. 24% in aura buffs.. just to be lower mid
Yeah ... that was rough days to be a warrior. Though we did have toys like Condemn and Ancient aftershock.
thin cliff
When do i use bloodbath > crushing blow? If both are available
when you're sandbagging for the luls
hardy cargo
a buff to our ST abilities would achieve the same thing<:yep:703420923625078804>
Sure, but then we wouldn’t be bottom on ST bosses and that has to stay true
forest owl
they buffed our ST while nerfing meat cleaver before, im sure sometime in shadowlands, why not just do that again..
weary sail
when you're sandbagging for the luls
Does crushing blow always take priority?
vestal root
buffed AM to reduce CDs even more take it or leave it
thick fossil
when you're sandbagging for the luls
Nah, I got it. "When your crushing blow button stops working."
weary sail
I thought im supposed to used bloodbath when aoe or crit chance is high? Maybe i misread it
thin cliff
I thought im supposed to used bloodbath when aoe or crit chance is high? Maybe i...
CB is insanely overloaded, AND buffs BB.
You should never actually (in practice) hit the point where you're overcapping BB's crit. And CB hits hard enough it still takes priority as long as you're enraged
weary sail
Gotcha
hardy cargo
I thought im supposed to used bloodbath when aoe or crit chance is high? Maybe i...
In aoe BB is above CB yes (Maxroll guide written by revvez outlines this)
chrome plover
I bb first in aoe for funny spin move 
mossy fox
when i spin i know i won the gamba
forest owl
I bb first in aoe for funny spin move <:gladge:963970137701109820>
same xD then i get no reap procs like 10 BTs in a row
hardy cargo
BT over 6t is also apparently higher than CB which feels weird but I listen to revvez
chrome plover
radiant plank
dense elbow
I wish execute also made us spin 
thin cliff
In aoe BB is above CB yes (Maxroll guide written by revvez outlines this)
oh, was this mathed out to be the case? It didn't track when I napkinned it. I'll read Rev's stuff, I probably missed something
weary sail
does this seemd right? (from maxroll)
hardy cargo
For single target ya
weary sail
it is so weird that slayer is built around execute, and we dont press execute when it procs haha
celest hearth
i do want that bladestorm back
thin cliff
it is so weird that slayer is built around execute, and we dont press execute wh...
it's more that we don't lose anything by NOT prioritizing it as long as we don't overcap stacks of things.
dense elbow
Ya gonna CB and BB either way, order is extremely minor. Just do what you prefer
I prefer CB 1st so I got time to react to oppertunist
weary sail
ive been macroing reck and avatar together, this opener said to space it out. Is that better or just macroing avatar / reck together still fine?
fiery harbor
its 'fine' but not optimal. you can squeeze an extra percent or two from your opener if you dont
not a big deal, depends on what level u play at
dense elbow
If you play TT with TR, you don't have to enrage - as Ava does it for you with OF cast
If you don't play TR you want to ramp first, so you reck to gain the rage
sick jungle
what are you guys spell reflecting on queen ansurek?
weary sail
If you play TT with TR, you don't have to enrage - as Ava does it for you with O...
for AoE / M+ u always play TR so im assuming its okay
thin cliff
BT over 6t is also apparently higher than CB which feels weird but I listen to r...
i'll be damned. bloodbath's DPET actually matches CB's at 3 targets and overtakes it at 4+.
Different is small, but it's there
celest hearth
i macro drogon roar and avataar to together i like to have reck with charge so u can pop off right away
i guess we dont have to rampage anymore casue we get enraged from odyns right ?
sick jungle
rampage on opener for BB
celest hearth
oooo
weary sail
is there a trait that refresh enrage duration during bladestorm or something? I noticed my enrage is always 4s even after a full bladestorm channel
fickle cedar
it casts BT/BB
molten wing
is there a trait that refresh enrage duration during bladestorm or something? I ...
it auto casts Bloodthirst/Bloodbath so that is what refreshes it
unreal shell
Though I’m also playing some arms in keys that shit gets fun on higher key level...
you been running Colossus or Slayer?
weary sail
it auto casts Bloodthirst/Bloodbath so that is what refreshes it
bloodthirst refresh enrage?
fickle cedar
thats why you wanna always rampage before a bladestorm, so you dont spend an extra gcd casting BB
celest hearth
has a chance
molten wing
i meant bloodthirst has a chance to enrage you , so it adds up to the current enrage
coarse nest
ive been macroing reck and avatar together, this opener said to space it out. Is...
This opener is just min maxed you could macro them and be just fine it’s just not technically optimal
hardy cargo
you been running Colossus or Slayer?
Bit of both, if 10 or above I play slayer, if single digit key mostly colossus
unreal shell
I'm thinking about giving Arms a go on some higher keys next week, just to get a different boss dps experience haha
hardy cargo
Slayer arms can still output some really good boss damage
dense elbow
Why not Thane? It is the most unique boss experience
fickle cedar
unique as in you get benched
unreal shell
I LOVE Thane
I wish it was even slightly viable
I want to be that giant electric mountain man
dense elbow
In m+ 10s it is fine
unreal shell
Alas, that man is also weak af
dense elbow
You just get downgraded to a top 10 DPS, instead of 5. Ya still pump overall
let others handle boss DPS with heavy ST specialization
You clap that AoE
dense elbow
I see hammer slammed down 
split radish
anyone got the dps rankings atfer world first?
low folio
i never once looked at the icon adn thought it looked like a question mark. i see it now but it definitely never popped out before
probably has unfocused eyesight
fickle cedar
anyone got the dps rankings atfer world first?
just check warcraft logs on heroic since most of mythic logs are not on stats yet
unreal shell
I get what they were going for, but it's for an icon sized image and you've made the background more prominent...and it looks like a ?
So that's all I can see. My ability capstone asking me why the hell I'm still trying to make Thane playable :>
pseudo rain
ive been macroing reck and avatar together, this opener said to space it out. Is...
just take a different macro for opener with charge reck
gives more rage so ur first gcd is enrage
sick jungle
is it really that big of a difference? I macro it all together and I still go charge > macro > rampage > BS
capped rage
pseudo rain
is it really that big of a difference? I macro it all together and I still go ch...
rampage first gcd
but not casting avatar with reck on opener is just min maxing doesnt matter much really
sick jungle
i only use the macro when I'm in cleave, not ST
sick jungle
true
vestal root
i thought DH and rogue is the giga sweat class
DH with inertia is the definition of sweat
pseudo rain
at this point people who are sticking with fury are just headstrong
mild heron
fury buffed gg
heavy nacelle
is there any single minded fury enjoyer here? 🙂
nocturne dragon
I think so
atomic fog
quick question, let's say you sim @ 1million, how much you're expected to do in Arakara overall in dps meter plz ?
nocturne dragon
yes volvo we said that words 
I just forgot who got the smf in their nickname
low folio
conversation started
they should give us transmog options for one handers and remove smf
vestal root
they should remove SMF yeah
just makes fury loot spec grief you
people dont play fury so they can play with 1handers
vestal root
go play outlaw
low folio
fury's identity wasnt entirely based around wielding 2 handers all the time
storm meadow
I don't play no outlaw. My life is War.
vestal root
yeh but who cares about anything pre MoP at this point
low folio
i farmed out some cool one handers for tmog back when one handed fury was sometimes good
vestal root
and pre legion is all different WoW in terms of gameplay
new spec dual shields
fury removed
low folio
im just saying, if they felt enough people wanted SMF that they made a talent for it. they would be better off just letting people transmog one handers onto them
storm meadow
Well, then leave SMF in the game and let people that want to explore this talent as a build challenge have their fun
vestal root
i would agree with you if blizz balanced the game
storm meadow
If you want only 2handers, just use Arm's loot spec'
low folio
smf really doesnt change anything about the spec besides making it weaker and move a little faster
vestal root
my friend thinks blizz has only 1 person working in balancing and that its a monkey on a typewriter
storm meadow
During DF S4 before TWW Prepatch the optimal build I had was completely different from meta fury S4
low folio
i bet 2 handed fury with that same build would do more damage
storm meadow
You were better off reusing S3's base and spam rampages due to Anger Management + Annihilator giving you so fucking much rage. Best streak was 4 Rampages in a row
chrome plover
dps balance is pretty good this season
storm meadow
nope. Because Annihilator wouldn't generate as much rage
As it was a PER ATTACK proc
Plus we had Gholak, Stormforge, Anvil trinket,... so many cool per attack procs... (well ok, Gholak is technique based, but it's in the spirit)
chrome plover
my friend thinks blizz has only 1 person working in balancing and that its a mon...
that monkey with a typewriter is doing a pretty great job compared to the team in previous seasons
vestal root
id nerf fury again
storm meadow
I wish we had a replacement for Annihilator 😭
vestal root
just so i can see people moan again
gusty cloak
rets do like 25% more dmg then us overall in mythic+
storm meadow
25% ?!
chrome plover
rets do like 25% more dmg then us overall in mythic+
false
storm meadow
do you even play correctly bro
gusty cloak
like a quarter more yes
vestal root
saying shit like "its not easy to balance" is a wack argument when they have 20yrs of experience
low folio
if i was a dev, id openly admit and double down on the belief that mages are their favorite
gusty cloak
maybe not rets but my friend ret yes
storm meadow
best ret I've seen are at most 100k above me
low folio
50% buffs for mages
left perch
saying shit like "its not easy to balance" is a wack argument when they have 20y...
what the
vestal root
and it really isnt easy but they should be more proactive rather than reactive
gusty cloak
best ret I've seen are at most 100k above me
cd's every 30 seconds.. they pull ahead every other pack
low folio
they dont have 20 years of experience technically. most of the old devs are very likely gone
low folio
apparently not
storm meadow
skills, experience and tech get passed down
I work in the gamedev industry. I can tell you it's definitely not the case bro. Nobody aint have time to fucking document shit.
chrome plover
best ret I've seen are at most 100k above me
it's like 10-12% on average looking at m+ logs this week
low folio
fucking khadgar being in a wheelchair is only something a younger dev would do
vestal root
fucking khadgar being in a wheelchair is only something a younger dev would do
ngl the story is mid af
sick jungle
it's an arcane wheelchair
vestal root
maybe im spoiled by other games idk
low folio
hes an all powerful wizard man that conjured a wheelchair instead of just floating
vestal root
he is THE wizard
weary sail
just take a different macro for opener with charge reck
gives more rage so ur fi...
would u need a different macro then for AoE? cuz in aoe the guide said pop reck and avatar together
unreal shell
Nah you can have one macro for Charge + Reck, and then the other has everything in it. But if you pop the charge/rec macro first, then rec is on CD when you push the 'everything' macro
And then you can just slam the everything macro in AOE
radiant plank
Why do u need a macro
pseudo rain
would u need a different macro then for AoE? cuz in aoe the guide said pop reck ...
I have both macros
charge reck
and reck avatar
but dont sweat it play comfortably and have fun
radiant plank
you are playing fury
this spec already takes 0 brain
no need to make it require -1
pseudo rain
this spec already takes 0 brain
in the end thats all
unreal shell
Why even use a keyboard, just bind random abilities to scroll where and VIBE
vestal root
only thing fury is bad for is carpal tunnel
storm meadow
I find it very funny that we still try to optimize rage generation in TWW
low folio
the less keybind i need to remember the better, macos are nice for it
storm meadow
When you see that you deal more damage with CB than Rampage per cast
unreal shell
Ignore lights, push CB
gusty cloak
is there any WA to track crushing blow?
nocturne dragon
no need to make it require -1
I need -2
storm meadow
is there any WA to track crushing blow?
The WA is : if you pressed Rampage, press CB
nocturne dragon
why you even need to track CB?
the order is Rampage CB RB then BB no need to track
vestal root
only thing i track is WW stacks
low folio
i figured bb would go first
gusty cloak
okay bet
storm meadow
the order is Rampage CB RB then BB no need to track
RB above BB ? I've been playing Fury wrong all this time !
low folio
bb is definitely above rb every time
storm meadow
Mono & Multi ?
hard widget
bb is definitely above rb every time
Thats not entirely true
There is even situations where u dont bloodbath at all
hard widget
Even in m+ if you full solo target, if ur above 100 rage and the target is not in execute (with vicious contempt talented) its a gain to rampage
weary sail
no need to make it require -1
me fury buttons flash i press buttons unga bunga 🐒
hard widget
Bloodbath is good for proccing reap the storm in aoe
storm meadow
i only really m+ so ive never seen a reason to not bb
I guess rage management can go fuck itself and we just Rampage > CB >RB > BB > (if proc) Exec
hard widget
But reap the storm isnt amazing for st
storm meadow
I hate Bladestorm for this reason
hard widget
I guess rage management can go fuck itself and we just Rampage > CB >RB > BB > (...
BB over rb
storm meadow
You go from 0 to 130 rage instantly
hard widget
And execute is very dependent on the situation
storm meadow
and you still have 2s left doing nothing with overcap
hard widget
If u have 3x marked for execution it becomes a very valuable button
weary sail
what buffs are you guys tracking? Enrage / Whirlwind / Bloodcraze / Opportunist?
there are a lot of buffs idk if i should track them all
hard widget
You go from 0 to 130 rage instantly
?
fickle cedar
juggernaut
low folio
if you use up your 2 charges of raging blow before bloodthirst/bb, you will run out of st globals that matter