fury

[warm crag]

reeled you in and hooked you

[rotund ginkgo]

I don't partake in such activities

[forest owl]

boom got em

[vocal siren]

so

[rotund ginkgo]

Bro dunked on me

I'm a goner

[vocal siren]

hypothetically if i had stormforged from 2016-2018

how do i get it back

[warm crag]

did u kill ovinax

[vocal siren]

<_<

[dense elbow]

it gone

forever

[restive peak]

No we're on it, 50ish % night 1

[rotund ginkgo]

Rip

[vocal siren]

rip

[restive peak]

Probably not til nerfs like most people

[vocal siren]

i miss my color

[rotund ginkgo]

Your first night ovinax was 50%?

[restive peak]

Ye

[warm crag]

idk current iteration is full killable

[vocal siren]

and access to special channel

sigh

[rotund ginkgo]

Bro we are so cooked

[restive peak]

It is but still, it's extremely tight and has to be perfect

[rotund ginkgo]

Our best pull is like 85%

[restive peak]

Also we don't have 2 pres

[sudden tusk]

yeah those fights

HAVE to get nerfed once they nerf shit like pres+fdk

[restive peak]

I burnt out in 2 weeks on 5 days cuz of these fights

Legit stepped down to a HOF 3 night guild over it, I CBA

[rotund ginkgo]

Linc I'll hold u

[warm crag]

ok 5 day raiding and not having killed it yet is a bit cooke dsorry

[rotund ginkgo]

"stepped down to a hof 3 day"

[restive peak]

That's like 50 guilds

Lol

Legit everyone is stuck there

[rotund ginkgo]

Yeah there's only like 15 logs for it

[restive peak]

Aren't there like 30 5/8 guilds total?

Like 100+ guilds are raiding 5+ nights a week rn

They're all hardstuck

[rotund ginkgo]

Linc why haven't u solo killed it

[warm crag]

@lost saffron 👑 🚴‍♀️

[rotund ginkgo]

Noober

[restive peak]

NS is goat'd though

[warm crag]

noober skies

[rotund ginkgo]

Schmoff got the kill

[restive peak]

We thank them for their WAs

[chrome plover]

almost 40 now

[rotund ginkgo]

Maybe linc should get coached

[chrome plover]

same lmao

[warm crag]

maybe link shouldnt have griefed prog by passing on treach oly moly

[rotund ginkgo]

Real

I think if he had Transmitter it'd be dead

[warm crag]

upvote

[buoyant salmon]

L

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/hedgehoglove-hedgehog-arici-gif-21931845

[restive peak]

It's not even enjoyable lol, people already arguing and shit, I'm too old for the internet tough guys bruh

[dense elbow]

Oh ye, Lincc, you not gonna level a DK alt, right?

[rotund ginkgo]

I agree with linc tho

[restive peak]

Nope, my mage is prepped but I'll get title as warr still

We're like 620ish ilvl, goin to 637-638ish, we got a long way to go

[rotund ginkgo]

Linc what does ur tank play

[restive peak]

BRM exclusively

[rotund ginkgo]

THAT'S SO BASED THP

HOLY SHIT

HE'S MAKING U SHINE

[buoyant salmon]

some were close to a crashout on thursday

but we dont raid weekends

so had s cool off time

but ppl losing to hurricane

[rotund ginkgo]

Linc coach me

[vocal siren]

wait

i thought most guilds went to 3 day schedules

are u telling me 5 day raids are back lmao

[sudden tusk]

there are guilds that call themselves 3 day

then raid 5

[dense elbow]

My quiver got another arrow for the doomer-dome

[restive peak]

I mean these fights aren't fun, they're unnecessarily cancerous, they fucked up here

[dense elbow]

Lincc leaving warrior is confirmed

[restive peak]

TONS of HOF guilds raid 5x a week 1st 2-3 weeks, and tons have been

[open prairie]

yeah idk

calling yourself 3 day when you raid more than that on prog

is uhh…..

[dense elbow]

Its fine if they state it loud and clear, no?

[rotund ginkgo]

First 3 weeks and doing 5 day

And calling urself 3 day

KEKW

[pulsar quest]

You can be a 3 day but do an extra day in the first few weeks

[sudden tusk]

tbh the main issue is the only reason the bosses are doable are very comp resticted

its not even just be a gamer its you better be a gamer on x class

[rotund ginkgo]

Yes but doing 5 days for almost a month

[pulsar quest]

Yeah that’s excessive

[rotund ginkgo]

Isn't the same as an extra 1 day for 2 resets

[pulsar quest]

I agree there

[restive peak]

^ this is the issue

If you didn't prep 2 furys, 2 FDKs and 2 pres

Just afk a week

That's piss poor design

[open prairie]

ID had 3 fury 2 fdk

[sudden tusk]

we Split mythic week 1

[open prairie]

their first kill

[pulsar quest]

We have 1 frost dk, me our only warrior, and no pres

[sudden tusk]

because there was just no point

[pulsar quest]

Are we cooked

[restive peak]

I love watching the race, I really do, but this arms race w Echo/Liquid needs to die

Because it's killing the fun HOF level prog race completely

[sudden tusk]

main issue is theres no progresion in the raid

[restive peak]

Yes, you're cooked til they nerf it

[sudden tusk]

Broodtwister and Nexus prices taking as many pulls as silken

[pulsar quest]

We are starting brood tomorrow so

Rip

[sudden tusk]

is just a tuning issue

[pulsar quest]

We honestly have just been focusing on hella splits

[restive peak]

It's good to get reps and understanding

[proper slate]

So I don’t follow this chat super consistently, but it seems doomish of late. What’s happening to fury?(Sorry if this is a dumb or triggering question!)

[restive peak]

The PTR has nerfs that will kill fury basically

But also they're not live

[dense elbow]

No worries, in #updates-midnight you can see the changes. Some ppl are afraid it will affect us too much.

[restive peak]

Nor is the PTR fully changed

The chances we're getting additional changes in a positive direction are very high, people just like to doom

[sudden tusk]

idk how the nerfs even work yet

@modest condor have you had time to see how the target change effects the dot yet

[dense elbow]

Well, I would like to see no changes, but meh

[warm crag]

idk silken will be harder for non rwf guilds imo#

[restive peak]

They're fairly minor, but we're already mid at best is the issue

[warm crag]

looks like a boss where everyone needs to be peak to kill it

[sudden tusk]

i mean

[open prairie]

already called echo losing this one

[sudden tusk]

echo took longer rekilling princess

[open prairie]

dropping your best healer days before the race

[sudden tusk]

then silken

[open prairie]

not a good sign

[dense elbow]

Well ofc echo lost; they started late

[restive peak]

I mean Echo played poorly, losing their best healer was bad, the scandal was definitely a stressor for the upper management too

Liquid also played the best they have in ages

[rotund ginkgo]

Thd

[restive peak]

Thd and Xes saves on kill pull were insane

[sudden tusk]

i mean on liquids pull. the boss was actually 3-4% lower then it ever had been at that point

they actually just played nuts on the kill

[buoyant salmon]

brood would be kinda fun if i didnt lag on every single egg pop

[sudden tusk]

brood does look fun its just pad pad pad

[buoyant salmon]

thd saved the pull but it wasnt really an insane play

[sudden tusk]

they need to stop blue swirls on the blue floor though

[warm crag]

brood is fun but the purple swirlies are just outrageous

[proper slate]

Thanks for the responses. I wish I had time these days to keep up with things. Fury is one of my fave classes, so fingers crossed.

[sudden tusk]

visual clarity shouldnt be a issue

[buoyant salmon]

idk why they have those shit ass swirlies every patch

[warm crag]

you should be immune to taking another swirly for 2 seconds after taking a swirly#

would 100% fix the entire fight

[buoyant salmon]

where u cant clearly see where they end

and 6 of them overlap to create a pool of purple

[warm crag]

im fully okay with that swirly visibility if you cant be oneshot by them

[dense elbow]

No matter the changes, the core playstyle will likely remain. So just stay positive; us degens will doom enough for the population

[buoyant salmon]

if you can even see them under the big ass boss, the adds, and the purple ground

[young swan]

the issue is they can pixel stack and the blss model can obscure them and the ground is purple and the egg break circle is purple and the eggs hide them

[warm crag]

ofc but itd still be fine if youd get immunity frames to swirlies after taking one

[restive peak]

The problem is them just jumping under the boss, but you have to run through him to reach your egg sometimes, and they're invisible there.

[sudden tusk]

also its very cool that the swirly timings can hit while you are positioned to break the eggs

[young swan]

ofc, but you dont

[sudden tusk]

which shouldnt ever be a thing

[warm crag]

ya current design is a bit silly

but we also have dispell terrorists

[young swan]

the fights just a mess

[warm crag]

warr util fits into it in very cool ways imo

[young swan]

thats on top of extremely tight tuning

[warm crag]

relentless pursuit is a very cool way of dealing with webs

[tardy lark]

https://www.twitch.tv/aagaardx/clip/SneakyFrigidPonySwiftRage-9O7LEVIFNRJLNnDD

is this fair

or am i trash

that was kill pull :))))

[sullen dove]

think it was 3 tbh

[warm crag]

german countdown so ye u deserved it

[tardy lark]

but the ones to the right of my corpse land after i die

[warm crag]

(i think u had time to move)

[sullen dove]

if it was 2 swirls directly in the same spot

ontop of eachother

i assume it might be able to do that idk

[tardy lark]

seems to be

i charged thinking "i can take one"

[buoyant salmon]

idk why blizzard refuses to make visually clear mechanics

i do not give a single fuck about the dogshit casual gamers emersion or whatever bullshit reason they have

[tardy lark]

but i just hate the strict timing for reck cdr man

[buoyant salmon]

AT THE MINIMUM, outline the mechanics with a border

[sudden tusk]

tbh the actual issue is after they removed 8 yards from every class

[buoyant salmon]

so you can clearly see where it ends

[sudden tusk]

why is the boss hitbox so small

if the boss hitbox can obscure that shit why is it small

[tardy lark]

Let me make boss translucent

[sullen dove]

yea they literally are on top of eachother

[sudden tusk]

poeple were using fucking enchated dust on razageth

[sullen dove]

the two that killed you

[sudden tusk]

to deal with that shit

the one on the close left

[sullen dove]

and then another came down on the right one like 1 sec later

[sudden tusk]

also goes off

the few stacked on his position were later and he has time to move out of them

[rotund ginkgo]

Skill issue

[tardy lark]

i am very angery

[sudden tusk]

but the issue is just there A no visual clarity, and B no way to know when that shit hits the floor

[restive peak]

I mean legit just cut the bosses model in half and make swirlies not stack

GG

Boss is immediately way easier

[buoyant salmon]

our ranged chilling at 0-10 swirlies hit by all night

most melee at like 50+

[open prairie]

ranged just payphone another boss

what else is new

https://tenor.com/view/stable-ronaldo-dance-gif-18658322

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweaty-speedrunner-tryhard-man-of-culture-gif-22725514

Meanwhile near boss

[barren coral]

ansurek shield phase was playtested using exclusively 20 mage players

[sudden tusk]

tbh they made a massive mistake with the 8 yard thing

should hjave just made it defualt

for all melee

[rotund ginkgo]

Convinced there is no warr player in dev team

[sudden tusk]

the shield phase is fine you only have maybe 1-2 gcds of downtime if you do it correctly

ranged still get to payphone it however...

[open prairie]

doesnt wrest kill you

or only the initial pull in

[sudden tusk]

it does dam but leap has a 1.5 second travel time

so if you jump at like 2 seconds you wont get pulled in

or you could be a frost dk and immune every pull altogether.....

[open prairie]

so being in melee range of boss during the pull

doesnt do dam itself

[sudden tusk]

you dont get munched if you dont get pulled under boss

[open prairie]

and yeah i mean dks just immune any forced movement mechanic

ever

[eager thorn]

do ppl think its alright to use gilded crests to upgrade 1 ring? since even if i get a mythic one from vault im still gonna have to upgrade the other

[warm crag]

if its mythic send it

if its hc is a bit ??

you have more impactful slots to upgrade

[sullen dove]

yea like the "idea" there is that youll eventually get a myth track so its guaranteed to be "wasted crests" but realistically unless youre getting more than 1 myth track item a week

it shouldnt matter

to upgrade 1 really good hero item to 626

[oblique trail]

I think you should just do what I do and never get hit by the swirlies (I've been killed by swirlies at least double digit times now)

[sullen dove]

but also like if you just get the ansurek ring out of vault on hc or whatever

[eager thorn]

ye i upgraded my hero transmitter to 626

[sullen dove]

spawns at 626 so dont need to think about that one

[warm crag]

i mean you should be high prio for ansurek ring

it sims insanely well for warr

[restive peak]

Anyone who says they haven't died to swirlies on brood is giga lying xD

[tardy lark]

im still one of the lowest swirly death melees somehow

[restive peak]

I am too but it happens hahaha

[oblique trail]

I for sure am not

[eager thorn]

hopefully

[warm crag]

i think this is one of those cases where literally no one denies it

[oblique trail]

I am probably however tied with Mulle at this point for most melee'd deaths

If not the highest

[restive peak]

...I wish that were true

There was a guy in the guild I just left saying logs were wrong

[sullen dove]

but if you like dont mythic raid weekly and youre not gonna get any myth track aside from m+ vault youre gonna have an excess of gildeds so you can upgrade hero stuff

[warm crag]

weird how warriors die from melees!

[oblique trail]

Grr!!

[restive peak]

He is omnipotent and did not ever die to them

[sullen dove]

but if you get even 1 extra myth track a week like 2 total ideally yea you'd rather spend gildeds on those pieces

[eager thorn]

my guild is trying mythic so i'll prob end up getting something eventually, but ye thinking abt ansurek ring being 626 on loot puts me off it

[warm crag]

idk if u raid mythic at all u clear first 4 trivial so u should be at a crest deficit

[sullen dove]

haha yeah haha... trivial... 20 pulls first 3 bosses

maybe get rash next week

[warm crag]

ur guild needs a grip i think

[sullen dove]

multiple

[eager thorn]

i still need to get good track of ara kara trinket but the fker never drops

[sullen dove]

but they gave me pants

so chillin

[warm crag]

grrr im so mad

now i need to flex with my loot!

[oblique trail]

STOP

Cretin

[tardy lark]

bro 10 hours of boe trash farm

plate boots havent dropped once

[oblique trail]

Did you farm that legitimately?

Hmm?

[feral ivy]

i feel like my rotation is wrong outside cd's rampage>CB>BB>cb>RB>RB>rampage?

[warm crag]

this is beyond degen

[oblique trail]

🎙️

[tardy lark]

i definitely wasnt the one that told Sabo how to do it faster

[warm crag]

me when i ramp into two cbs, one bb, followed by two rbs and then i rampage again

[tardy lark]

we were watching movies

it was quite nice

[oblique trail]

This one action caused a snowball effect

[eager thorn]

how do you cb twice before rampaging again

[warm crag]

maybe i sign up to non mandatory boe farming

(i only need boot)

[feral ivy]

but wouldnt it be better to do ramp>CB to % chance to reset CB? or it really doesnt matter

[warm crag]

bro i have no idea what you even said initially

you suggested to crushing blow twice without a rampage inbetween

id suggest reading what the RA talent does and to consult the wowhead/maxroll guides

[sullen dove]

uh you dont psure

[warm crag]

they should cover like 95% of situations

[oblique trail]

I think you should also consult Spongie's DMs

[warm crag]

if you dm me you will explode

[oblique trail]

Testing it

[open prairie]

just have both your rings crest free to 636

[warm crag]

and i will screenshot the message request and spread it into private discords to bemuse at

[sullen dove]

this is what will happen if you do that

[open prairie]

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10311420692458175149

[feral ivy]

idk how the fuck i thought i was CB twice

i need a wa to show my history of abilitys

[tardy lark]

is bemuse a real word

[warm crag]

details streamer plugin does it and should come baseline w/details

[warm crag]

idk it sounds real

[oblique trail]

Read a book

[kindred swallow]

yay top dps zug zug

[sullen dove]

yo

[warm crag]

700k dps is crazy

[oblique trail]

My bible is google

[sullen dove]

that paladin SUUUUUCKSS!!!!

jk

thats rude

but my tierlist said paladin always beats warrior

[kindred swallow]

was a +4 grim batol btw

[warm crag]

untimed +3 or

oh close

[sullen dove]

w shit

[kindred swallow]

im still at 602 ilvl

[warm crag]

i am kidding king

[sullen dove]

w shit king

[warm crag]

if you timed then you have obliterated the opponents

[kindred swallow]

ye was just giving context lol

[forest owl]

he a potato aswell so that also could be a factor

[sullen dove]

attacked with powerful force

[kindred swallow]

we did time by 1 min lol

[sullen dove]

[olive wraith]

Didn’t you hear? Everything is S tier

[warm crag]

you MUST continue the obliteration and return to this chat with higher dps

[open prairie]

Yeah low keys have some creatures

[oblique trail]

Be sure to ping @warm crag when you do return

[open prairie]

especially now that you can get better gear from delves

[warm crag]

i expect 1 million dps by the end of the day!

[warm crag]

if you keep this up i will start the thank you @garms

[kindred swallow]

is 713k good for 601 ilvl? i dont even know lol

[warm crag]

copypasta

but it hits you instead

[oblique trail]

thank you @garms

[kindred swallow]

havent been top dps since dragonflight

[oblique trail]

I miss garms

where'd he go

[warm crag]

@tidal kindle do u remember the thank you @garms for theorycrafting this build with me pasta

[edgy widget]

he's just like me fr...

(j/k I don't have sticky feet)

[oblique trail]

If you want an honest answer, it could certainly be a lot higher, but there's a lot more variables to account for, like if a dungeon run really just went poor or if you're not comfortable with a spec/playing it well

[sullen dove]

kinda insane that swirlies can stack on the exact same location tho on god

that seems like it shouldnt exist

[warm crag]

i think this is reasonable

[sullen dove]

which tbh maybe wasnt the reason he died, like he still got hit by first two there venn diagrammed

but like

[kindred swallow]

yeah i dont mind being told im terrible at the game, was just asking cuz i really have no idea how much dps is good dps

[sullen dove]

if he lives 2 and dies to a third in the exact same spot at the same time

crazy

[tardy lark]

i have dead feet

[kindred swallow]

i did die like 3 times so theres that

[oblique trail]

I think it's insane that at this point in WoWs history, they still allow swirlies to exist without a clear and defined outline of where it'll do damage in

[edgy widget]

Honestly, those swirlies are bullshit, it's especially bullshit how they can spawn completely invisible under the boss, and even worse that DK/Rogue can just lolstand in them without a care in the world

[buoyant salmon]

i agree

[kindred swallow]

and im still trying to get used to the new rotation with cbs and bbs

[warm crag]

I think it's insane at this point in WoWs history, that Bomm

[buoyant salmon]

just outline the swirlies

[buoyant salmon]

we are luckier than some too we can survive 2

if full hp

[oblique trail]

Get timed out for 1 picosecond

[warm crag]

cant if u break an egg

[buoyant salmon]

monk just dies from 2 100 to 0

[forest owl]

what swirlies are these?

[warm crag]

xd!

[open prairie]

dks have increased hp

[buoyant salmon]

true but get owned

[open prairie]

for what reason again?

[edgy widget]

I really like how some mechanics add a graphical effect to the edge of your screen when you're standing in them, and wish Blizz would use it more for other dangers like these swirls

[oblique trail]

You just take the L and hope you live with SR + Dstance and ER if you have it

[warm crag]

what if i killed you how about that? owned

[buoyant salmon]

i’d be dead

[warm crag]

damn good point

[oblique trail]

and use your swifty one heal macro and use your pot/stone

[buoyant salmon]

dumb question

[warm crag]

i open with swifty one live so i always have "no more tools left" so i can blame healers

[kindred swallow]

i think my biggest issue with the rotation now is that i RARELY get 3 stacks of the bladestorm proc when my cds come back up

not sure what im doing wrong

[warm crag]

that is omega cooked

[edgy widget]

imagine being locked in D Stance during your omega burst

[buoyant salmon]

bruh on last pull of the night i ate a swirly and thought i was fine but the tank ate 2 swirlies right before the tank explosion so i died from jt

it

[oblique trail]

I don't have to imagine it

[buoyant salmon]

i had every single button up but was like ok literally nothing is happening i wont heal myself

[oblique trail]

I pre-emptively pop ER when I see spiders spawn sometimes

[buoyant salmon]

4.5m tank explosion eta gg

[oblique trail]

Because I fear I will rip aggro

[warm crag]

schmidi has the spider CD sets so i dont have to worry about this

Noob!

[oblique trail]

And I am in fact at this point a pseudo spider tank

[edgy widget]

we 3 tank and still don't pick up the colossal spiders asap

[buoyant salmon]

there was a pull in tanked 17m from colossal spider and lived

idek how

[warm crag]

are you still playing am?

[oblique trail]

We also 3 tanked it tonight, still ripped aggro

[oblique trail]

yes

We need the dam

[warm crag]

Noob lolololol

[oblique trail]

I will call you a noob when I out parse you

[buoyant salmon]

am more fun anyways

[warm crag]

i will eevn call you a Noober!

[sullen dove]

Just have 14 fdks?

[oblique trail]

AM is in fact not fun at all imo on Broodtwister

It is in fact, quite ass to play

[warm crag]

we have 3 (three)

[feral ivy]

found it and idk what the fuck i was talking about earlier but i fixed what was doing ty for the streamer thing

[edgy widget]

it's nice reliably having BS for every set, it's less nice Reck not always being reliable

[oblique trail]

Being an uptime slave to such a tight timing is really not cool

[warm crag]

weird? you said this about rashok

[oblique trail]

I certainly did say this about the boss in the tier where I raided(n't)

[buoyant salmon]

with frenzied enrage its almost reliably up every time

[kindred swallow]

also guys when we full send cds are we suposed to weave in bbs and cbs or just rampage to spend and pop next cd?

[warm crag]

this is as i am making up arguments to defeat you with

[buoyant salmon]

with powerful i couldnt do it i was on the verge of crashout every pull

[warm crag]

its the ultimate strawman

[oblique trail]

I eventually managed to do it with Powerful

[warm crag]

ok but are you stupid

[oblique trail]

But you have no leeway at all

[edgy widget]

in single target, CB > BB under rage cap > Rampage
so during CDs, mostly CB -> Rampage

[oblique trail]

So I eventually swapped to Frenzied

[warm crag]

talent powerful again immediately

[winter shoal]

Not sure I fully understand your question, but in general it's not a problem to overcap rage during cds in order to use CB

[oblique trail]

Never

[buoyant salmon]

yes but mot the point here

[buoyant salmon]

no man i will crash out

grom playing powerful was so fucking funny tho

[warm crag]

im going to crash into your house and get comfy in your bed

[buoyant salmon]

:3

[tidal kindle]

@tropic veldt

Got muted over that

[warm crag]

lmao

[edgy widget]

I tried Frenzied and still don't seem to have a lot of consistency, so swapped back to Powerful

[tidal kindle]

Now I raid with him

[warm crag]

ok but actually go back to powerful u deal -inf damage

[kindred swallow]

yeah im sorry i didnt ask clearly i meant like I pop recklesness and avatar right then i get full rage, do i just spend rage on rampage and then odyn or do i use more stuff before odyn?

[warm crag]

i will tell your gm and they will scream for 24 minutes straight

[oblique trail]

Have not had issues with it, but I also have been charge weaving to get that extra small amount of rage, on top of 30% haste

[edgy widget]

yeah I was charge weaving too

[tardy lark]

frenzied made it easy to make the CDR threshold as long as you double charge during the drink blood cast thingy

[tidal kindle]

Frenzied is goat

[edgy widget]

I also talented Sudden Death instead of Bloodcraze, for extra rage and imminent demise stacks (really helps get the 3 stack on pull)

[tidal kindle]

Don't listen to the haters

[buoyant salmon]

yeah my haste turbo high

[edgy widget]

my haste is p low even with frenzied, so that's probably part of it

[oblique trail]

Even with using BS for boss dam during the small intermission between the next area, I've been able to have it up for each add set

Don't think SD is worth for me at least

[buoyant salmon]

wait u can do that

[oblique trail]

Ye

[buoyant salmon]

wow im a fat griefer

[oblique trail]

Right after the 3rd set

Well

The next one after 3rd set

[edgy widget]

I don't think Bloodcraze adds much, particularly if you're playing AM

CSHB is like 1-2% of my damage

[warm crag]

Just get 3 fdks and play RA

Noobs

[buoyant salmon]

r1 healing parse though

[oblique trail]

I will go check my log to see if I can refute this claim (I probably can't)

[warm crag]

What's ur biggest leech tick

[restive peak]

I'm playing RA now, they die, I'll look lower on logs and IGAF lol

[warm crag]

I had 2.4 mil oly moly

[oblique trail]

I am also too lazy to swap talents around more than AM, Uproar and Frenzied

[edgy widget]

only weirdness is you have to actually remember to use SD instead of just waiting for marked stacks

[oblique trail]

It certainly did a lot in my best pull

[edgy widget]

but I really like getting 3x ID more reliably

[oblique trail]

15% pull

Tbf I also just hammer BT on CD during any amount of AoE

[kindred swallow]

reck-avatar-rampage-thunderous roar-cb-bb-odyn-rampage-cb-bb-bladerstorm
or
reck-avatar-rampage-thunderous roar-odyn-rampage-bladestorm

[edgy widget]

3% is ok, not really a lot

[kindred swallow]

i think its easier to understand what i was asking like this

[edgy widget]

Reck+Ava -> TR -> Rampage -> Bladestorm -> CB -> OF -> Rampage -> CB -> Rampage/BB (based on rage)

you could also put the CB before BS, makes no diff

[kindred swallow]

yeah alright thank you sorry for not being clear lol

[sand crest]

isnt delaying cb for of better after bs since the remaining bleed on tr will line up with of? for full value on twords

or does that not rly matter

[edgy widget]

TR lasts 10s, plenty long enough to cover either way

[polar roost]

Whats the prio general with bl? Without cds

[kindred swallow]

arent we just wasting a rampgae after bladestorm ends though? since we OF? or that doesnt really matter

[edgy widget]

you're gonna waste rage no matter what tbh, it doesn't really matter

you could CB -> Ramp -> OF if you wanted to, the end result is gonna be the same

[sand crest]

cb too good, fuck rampage

[kindred swallow]

yeah alright, then for normal rotation i just cb-cb-bb-rampage then?

[edgy widget]

you cannot cb twice in a row, so no

[kindred swallow]

ah right yeah

[edgy widget]

also flips a little bit depending on # of targets and how quickly they will die

[kindred swallow]

so just cb-bb-rb until rampage?

[edgy widget]

something like broodtwister for example, you're just gonna TR -> BS -> OF, because you want that damage out as fast as possible

[oblique trail]

Ok I have a small cook maybe to help with aligning Reck for 1st adds on Broodtwister, even with Powerful

Simply take away BC, and talent Depths

Genius or?

[warm crag]

Maybe I will cook you

[oblique trail]

It's not even that bad..

(you can't really sim this)

[edgy widget]

and if there are a lot of targets around (again like broodtwister), you could prio BB/BT higher just for reap procs

but vs 5 targets CB hits harder than BB + Reap anyway

[tardy lark]

watching Vil for 2 pulls playing DK on Ovinax and bro is just planting under boss not giving a fuck lol

[edgy widget]

why depths? just for an extra rampage of CDR?

[oblique trail]

It's runic power gen broski

For the extra 4 seconds of 100% rage gen to help get an extra Ramp you'd otherwise not get

[tardy lark]

even with no ams he took 2 swirls and lived lol

[oblique trail]

I've many times been just one single ramp off of having it

[edgy widget]

hmm maybe; I feel like at that point you might just go swift strikes?

[tardy lark]

my solution to the haste issue with powerful enrage was haste flask, haste rings and neck

sat on 31% haste

[edgy widget]

yeah I'm like 21% haste base atm

[oblique trail]

I considered 2x Swift as well instead of Deft

But no Deft is absolute ass

Not extending Enrage during BS feels really awful

[tardy lark]

and still it was spicy, hence me having to charge on the death clip otherwise i wouldnt have it up for add spawns which means i wont have it up for next again lol

[edgy widget]

well I was thinking swapping BC for 1 Swift while keeping 2x Deft

[oblique trail]

Yeye I know

Just another small change I had considered but never tried

[kindred swallow]

now with the correct cd usage on the dornogal aoe dummies

[edgy widget]

but I also like having SD, it's basically +10 rage on proc (over BT/RB)

[tardy lark]

uh, one tip for after first set of adds, you can sometimes chain 3 rampages

[oblique trail]

I do that already

But it's a bit awkward when you have 5 fps

[edgy widget]

Yeah, gotta remember not to delay Rampage for anything

[tardy lark]

yeah its such a trash fight

[oblique trail]

Tbf the last 2 pulls I had 50~ fps reliably

[edgy widget]

I definitely made that mistake a few times, just sitting at max rage pressing buttons

[kindred swallow]

not even cbs?

[oblique trail]

After I restarted my entire game xd

[edgy widget]

you don't have CB with AM

[kindred swallow]

ah nvm then

[oblique trail]

And also had no details, no damage numbers, no raid frames

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/brave-little-toaster-appliance-toaster-smile-toasting-gif-4950420

[oblique trail]

I did a lot

Simply to have playable fps

Got rid of Elvui and made a new setup of AUI WA's and bartender + SUF

And just killed some addons

[edgy widget]

elvui is trash

[oblique trail]

Have not had issues with it until this tier

[kindred swallow]

is AM even usable rn? i prefered that so much more than ra now lol

[edgy widget]

I mean its a good all-in-one, but in terms of optimization, it's so bloated with crap that hogs resources

[oblique trail]

AM is not really worth using no, outside of Broodtwister (on Mythic only I'd argue)

[edgy widget]

we're specifically talking about broodtwister, and even then it's not necessarily better, it's just a diff approach

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/foss-no-bitches-no-hoes-0bitches-no-gif-24529727

[kindred swallow]

yeah yeah i just meant in general

cuz i really liked am playstyle

[oblique trail]

Have tried a few keys with it, and it's okay overall but it's just abysmal boss damage compared to RA

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-gif-20627701

more like

[oblique trail]

"abysmal" is an overstatement but it's pretty bad

[tidal kindle]

I'm big fan of

Uproar RA

On brood

[oblique trail]

I am not gonna test RA

[tidal kindle]

But that's cuz our dks can make up the diff on adds

[oblique trail]

Because I think if I do we wont have enough reliable add damage

[edgy widget]

was that after my suggestion in the other channel? or were you already doin that

[tidal kindle]

I went back and forth with it for a bit

Around same time you mentioned yeah

The boss dam gain is just too value (for my guild) imo

[edgy widget]

Eroka suggested it to me after his kill - he didn't do it, but looking back he thought it would probably be better, given how quickly his adds died

[tidal kindle]

Yeah

Worst case I have OF + roar for each para set

And then BS on the ending of paras + spiders/worms

[edgy widget]

my group is starved for AoE though, so my TR still doin work

[tidal kindle]

[edgy widget]

(this was an early wipe with way more parasites than necessary, but still)

only 60% of my damage

we still got a long way to go on this fight

[oblique trail]

Reached 124 pulls and best is 15%

Atrocious boss ngl

[tardy lark]

you are in no way in a hurry unless heavyhanded kyveza nerfs are inbound

[edgy widget]

yup

[tardy lark]

that boss does so much fucking damage

[edgy widget]

They're gonna nerf Broodtwister again too, I'm certain

the mechanical requirement is still really high

[oblique trail]

Ngl I just wanted to kill Brood so I could get a 2nd vault slot

Another chance at the ring..

[edgy widget]

stop sitting easy bosses

[oblique trail]

I am in no way in control of this

[edgy widget]

the trick is making yourself indespensible

and then never being allowed to sit ever even on deep farm

[peak moon]

So question... 1h Fury, how bad is it really lol

[tardy lark]

Just need Mulle to quit

[oblique trail]

Hard to when you got another warrior on the roster who parses equally, and other times better, than you

[edgy widget]

~5% behind, give or take

[edgy widget]

ah yeah, see I've never had that problem

not because I'm good, just because they tend to be very bad

[oblique trail]

Truly suffering from success having a very good cowarrior

[sullen dove]

i miss it...

come back cirilla...

all alone...

[oblique trail]

Could've been me and Crit..

[mossy fox]

imagine my guild where im the only warrior and we have 0 fdk

[mossy fox]

true...

[oblique trail]

At least I save the embarrasment of parsing lower than you on a regular basis because idk you have a hidden aura buff to make you parse better in aoe fights

I'm also just bad at padding aoe fights..

[tulip swallow]

I have a human desire to send cds on the boss

[oblique trail]

CD timers are too much effort unless I need them to kill the boss

[mossy fox]

i love figuring out CD timings

[sullen dove]

hidden aura buff also includes dream level rng to get 30sec bladestorm cd with RA talented

[tulip swallow]

I'm sure I could get like 80% of the pad correctly just by looking at lorgs io, but when the timing is too tight it's kind of frustrating

[sullen dove]

simply him

[oblique trail]

My slayers strike RNG is either dogwater or proccing 6 times before I even get my execute out

[sullen dove]

yea

[oblique trail]

So I overcap massively

[sullen dove]

actually insane how it does that

"oh you just hit 3 stacks and youre in the middle of a rampage cast?"

"why dont i just proc twice in 1 second for you have fun"

[oblique trail]

I wonder if each hit of Ramp can proc it though

It probably can't but never really bothered to look into it or notice if it can

[rotund ginkgo]

Padcake confirmed

[mossy fox]

this is why i often press it if i can at 2 stacks

[oblique trail]

I do the same

Not necessarily because it's good but

I see SD light up I press

[rotund ginkgo]

I've learnt to just fucking send every stack if possible

[open prairie]

neuron activation

[mossy fox]

munching stacks at 3 is so common

[rotund ginkgo]

After I had too many times of bs not lining up when it should

Ahem ahem shield phase ansurek

No bs for second pull

Feels B A D

[oblique trail]

I've also had a lot of slayers strikes happen mid Execute

So ig the cast itself of Execute can proc it?

Before the damage even happens

Or an auto attack?

[exotic rose]

I'm topping my raids damage charts, and I dont understand the Parse shit, sometimes I have a higher one, sometimes I'm top dps and I have a like 12?? lol

[rotund ginkgo]

Very wonky at times

[rotund ginkgo]

Wym?

You parse against other warriors

[oblique trail]

Your parse is how well you did compared to everyone else on that fight of your spec

Just because you topped the meters in your raid, doesn't necessarily mean you did well

(Or you're fighting Rashanan and you did 90% of your damage on adds)

[rotund ginkgo]

So you can outperform your guild but if you don't outperform other warriors then it's a bad parse

True

Rash just got reworked

[mossy fox]

same ive not actually rewinded to check what happens with cdr in that case

[rotund ginkgo]

It's spear time

[vocal siren]

@edgy widget why did u ignore me on bnet 😦

[tidal kindle]

It counts toward your execute

So if you're at 3

It's xdd

[rotund ginkgo]

Cutiecake have u told blizzard to buff us yet?

[mossy fox]

like if i press exe on 2x mfe, and slayer strike procs same time i can see the stacks going up to 3 before disappearing

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[vocal siren]

I see how it is

[mossy fox]

even if im sure the exe hit before slayer strike

[tidal kindle]

Yah you get 3x worth of CDR

[rotund ginkgo]

Happened to me

[vocal siren]

you just forget all about the OGs

[finite spade]

ego

[edgy widget]

idk I was probably distracted by a bumblebee or somethin

[vocal siren]

lmao

hey man hows it going

[rotund ginkgo]

Time to eep

[exotic rose]

what the hell is it taking into account where I'm at, what I'm getting hit by?

[rotund ginkgo]

Gn skyhold

[tidal kindle]

That's why I try to send at 2 on brood

[vocal siren]

missed ya. came back to WoW after 6 years and its fucking weird

[edgy widget]

no way

[tidal kindle]

If I'm desperate for BS cdr

[vocal siren]

LMAO

holy

[mossy fox]

i hold no power

[vocal siren]

i mean i dont know if i should be happy, sad or bemused

[edgy widget]

he tried but they read "nerf" instead

[mossy fox]

tbf i dont really need bs cdr with AM so far on brood, it's always about getting reck in time

[vocal siren]

I chuckled when I came back, I saw you're doing all teh guides

[edgy widget]

it's had that name since like WoD, so probably all three

[rotund ginkgo]

Archi tell them to make our rampage uncapped aoe instead ty :3

[tidal kindle]

RA problem

[vocal siren]

you still a burrito afficinado?

[tidal kindle]

[vocal siren]

also is that skype chat still alive

[edgy widget]

yes, and no

[vocal siren]

or dead dead

[edgy widget]

deader than dead

[vocal siren]

sad

[mossy fox]

i was a lurker in the secret skype

[vocal siren]

Not sure if you're raiding but we should catch up sometime. It's been so fucking long.

[rotund ginkgo]

Do you reck pre pull?

[vocal siren]

you sound familiar

[rotund ginkgo]

Or do u just hold reck first 45s?

[mossy fox]

no i send it and get it back in time

[vocal siren]

i came in here earlier today and no one remembered me

and it was sad

[young swan]

yes and no, logs will tell you when you affected by a mechanic and it tracks movement, but it wont give leniency to your parse just because you got a mechanic

[rotund ginkgo]

I can't seem to fucking get it on 45s

[final birch]

Im thinking

Frnzied angle

[rotund ginkgo]

Without sending pre pull

[final birch]

For that one

Cant get it

[mossy fox]

oliria got me invited to that skype, if you remember him

[tidal kindle]

Frenzied is just goat if your adds aren't an issue

[vocal siren]

i do

[exotic rose]

Mmm I'm confused as to where I'm messing up

[oblique trail]

Someone test Depths for me

[tidal kindle]

(imo)

[final birch]

always missing 5 sec before its ready for ava

[vocal siren]

I remember most of not all the skype chatters

[oblique trail]

Swear Depths is the hidden puzzle piece

[rotund ginkgo]

Yh might try frenzy I guess

[tidal kindle]

🙅

[oblique trail]

Yes

[vocal siren]

I thik collision quit?

*think

im not sure tho

[oblique trail]

Trust in me G-notarms

[vocal siren]

ive lost touch with everyone

[edgy widget]

long time ago

[final birch]

Ngl if stops are right the adds are turbo overkilled

By our comp

[vocal siren]

Does Naeno play anymore?

[edgy widget]

it's not a bad idea

I'll give it a shot next week

[vocal siren]

are you the last one still playing retail Archim

[oblique trail]

Assuming no more nerfs I'll try it on Wednesday

[mossy fox]

for AM cdr?

[oblique trail]

Ye

[mossy fox]

on brood

[oblique trail]

To get Reck back in time even with Powerful

[tidal kindle]

If you send depths I believe you can reck on pull

W/ Am

[edgy widget]

uhh of the mains I think so, but a few of the chatters are still around

[mossy fox]

ahh ye possibly

[tidal kindle]

Although that may be berserking cope

[oblique trail]

You already did this no?

[vocal siren]

yeah, im talking like the main peeps. Collison, Naeno, Vel, Sari, you

[tidal kindle]

I did w/o depths

[vocal siren]

me

who else

[crisp prism]

what if we all play smf and dont take bladestorm or of and underperform a lot for a week will they buff us instead

[tidal kindle]

W/ depths it'd be consistent

[mossy fox]

frenzied haste is so huge though im not sure depths can do it

[tidal kindle]

Depths + berserking*

(For me)

[oblique trail]

With Powerful I've been just 1 ramp off of having Reck back for 1st adds

[tidal kindle]

I did powerful AM and frenzied RA

[edgy widget]

Vel wasn't ever in the skype group I don't think? She's mainly on Classic, works for WCL now

[tidal kindle]

That was the tradeoff worth testing imo

[edgy widget]

Sarri is still around

Collision quit during WoD

[runic cypress]

Why are FDK so good yet remain unerfed

[crisp prism]

cuz it isnt brown

[vocal siren]

Oh true, Vel was mainly skyhold

[oblique trail]

Tbf I also had like 30-35% haste with different gear setups so xd

[vocal siren]

i dontk now how but my gear ended up looking like this

[oblique trail]

Even went as far as having 39% with Powerful

[edgy widget]

Naeno too, I don't think he ever appeared until discord

[crisp prism]

btw kinda jumping to the topic we just reached ovinax are we playing AM there ?

[vocal siren]

pugging shit feels so bad

yeah he didn't. my memory is so hazy

[mossy fox]

dont worry, last time i changed from warrior to mage for m+ they got nerfed and warriors buffed

[tidal kindle]

Base frenzy

[mossy fox]

same will happen to gripcake

[oblique trail]

39% before anything

Just straight up 39%

[vocal siren]

its gonna feel fucking bad not raiding mythic

it'll probably make me quit this godforsaken game for another 6 years

[oblique trail]

Had 2 haste heavy rings + Sikran neck + haste flask

Just to reach it

[vocal siren]

Also, can I bug you about warrior questions in DM? 🙂

[edgy widget]

no

god no

I am redirecting all questions to my intern @tidal kindle

[mossy fox]

you have 39 haste? Insane

[oblique trail]

I had

[runic cypress]

Pls reroll to paladin I need paladins to suffer

[oblique trail]

And like 30% mast

xd

My gear was not super hot earlier in the week

[tardy lark]

@young swan also appreciates dms

[edgy widget]

^

[vocal siren]

Got it, will be dming you

[young swan]

stop it

i have to raid soon 😭

[vocal siren]

listen its not like im a random

put some faith in me

all these young whippersnappers on the lawn we built

smh smh

[tidal kindle]

I have 23 base...

[tidal kindle]

[oblique trail]

Condolences..

I've started just using haste flask for Brood

[vocal siren]

before ur time

[edgy widget]

21% base

[runic cypress]

If you haven't been on Talk TUAH you're pretty much a nobody

[oblique trail]

And sit at like 30%~ haste and 42% mast

[vocal siren]

dont worry about it

[oblique trail]

Humanlike stats doing it this way

[young swan]

stats are kinda fucky wucky i feel like, but powerful feels NICE on 30%

also sims better than frenzied on ST funnily enough

[vocal siren]

i used to be one of the earliest stormforged on the server, way back in the day

[edgy widget]

look at that unbuffed mastery though 🥵

[vocal siren]

think there was a gofundme or something

[young swan]

need

[vocal siren]

damn ur still alliance

[edgy widget]

shadow knife op

[vocal siren]

tsk tsk

[runic cypress]

What ilvl is that dagger

[edgy widget]

factions don't matter anymore

[vocal siren]

oh i know

[young swan]

[edgy widget]

just 619, but it's so nice

[vocal siren]

so why dont u join the superior orc race

[edgy widget]

cause they ugly

[vocal siren]

brother, mag'har are amazing

[edgy widget]

the combat animations stink

[runic cypress]

Damn I think I have a champion one I sold

[edgy widget]

they still use hunchback combat anims

[runic cypress]

Better restore that bitch

[vocal siren]

who can see combat animations in raid

[mossy fox]

im on like 19% haste 45% mast i think

[ebon stag]

Yall think fury will survive the next round of nerfs?

[vocal siren]

😦 are u making fun of me

[mossy fox]

maybe i just need those sikran necks you've all got

[young swan]

no thats actually kinda cool

[runic cypress]

Critcake literally rerolled

[buoyant salmon]

maybe maybe not but i dont think the proposed changes will be the only changes warrior will see

[vocal siren]

oh ok

[runic cypress]

It's fucking over

[vocal siren]

yeah they took away my stormforged during one of my WoW quit periods

never gave it back

[edgy widget]

after patch? it's gonna take a dive in raid, but it'll still be strong for at least Rasha'nan (on details lolol), Brood, and Queen

[ebon stag]

Yea friends told me either run dk or run prot warrior

[vocal siren]

MAYBE SOMEONE CAN GIVE IT BACK FOR OLD TIMES SAKE

[edgy widget]

DK is gonna be better, I mean that's just luck of the draw - it's FOTM

[ebon stag]

I'm just baffled by the fury hate as of late by blizzard

[neon kite]

anyone have a wa that shows when im getting targeting by casted spells i can see if my target is focusing me but no more then that

[edgy widget]

that's also assuming it doesn't get slapped at some point before november too

[neon kite]

just 1 shot by 2 web bolts or am i just bad

[ebon stag]

True

[edgy widget]

no you just gotta kick

web bolts fuck on higher key levels

[mossy fox]

prolly need to neuter our ridiculously fast burst potential to give us more overall damage

[neon kite]

i was but they were all down in our group but ok ok wondering if a wa would show anything

[edgy widget]

City of Threads early trash is particularly bad about it

[runic cypress]

I'm definitely not playing warrior in season 2 if they don't change stuff

[crisp prism]

this is a 37

[neon kite]

ok ok good to know

[orchid iron]

does the catalyst remove enchants or no? it doesnt look like it does in the tooltip but im scared to risk it lol

[tulip swallow]

[mossy fox]

web mages in general are nasty

[crisp prism]

according to warcraftlogs i did 770k dps

[neon kite]

yea they hurt

[tidal kindle]

[crisp prism]

if i couldnt get bladestorm reset tanks were getting pumped by adds

[edgy widget]

I've been trying for it

[mossy fox]

nah i mean it though, but i dont have faith it'll get done right

[young swan]

[buoyant salmon]

the issue is when we have sustained damage ppl complain when we have burst ppl complain

how to win

smoge

[neon kite]

when is odyns fury getting cooked or expected too

honestly omega cringe change

[vocal siren]

aren't you a mod? <_<

[ebon stag]

It truly be a sad day

[young swan]

yeah lol

[vocal siren]

im mostly memeing,

no reason to give it to me, im such a fucking scrub nowadays

[tulip swallow]

if blizzard can't balance the tiny niche of high sustained damage at exactly 5 targets that's on them

[edgy widget]

honestly the AoE nerf isn't even a bad one - fury is too bursty in raid
but it's also the only thing Fury does well, and nerfing without returning any damage elsewhere makes the spec really underperform

My suggestion is just buff the tier set, outright doubling its value would be about a +2% buff to Fury's ST without affecting its burst whatsoever... still not enough for Fury to be better than Arms or Fury, but at least enough to keep it out of the gutter

[unreal shell]

I don't mind if they tone down the burst a bit if they tune up the sustained damage. Like ok I get it we burst hard. But don't just take that away and give nothing

[vocal siren]

also why is execute so bad w/o the stacks

its execute

it shouldn't hit for nothing

[crisp prism]

Tbf i dont understand why they gave us the burst profile to begin with , didn't they previously say they don't want bursty specs

[vocal siren]

using execute as a filler feels bad

[edgy widget]

Exe isn't bad, RB is just too good

[tulip swallow]

Burst is the traditional warrior profile tbf

[pearl sequoia]

Cant really say its TOO bursty when outside of CDs we not doing that much

[unreal shell]

Also make Mountain Thane good

[vocal siren]

it just feels strange to like, never use it unless stacked or if there is nothing else to hit

[unreal shell]

I want to be a lightning monster

[tulip swallow]

Bladestorm was a button you pressed and shit just melted for a long time, and it's kind of back to that in TWW

[trail bane]

Do you prefer Mark of Khadros over Transmitter or did you simply not get the chance to loot one?

[runic cypress]

Warrior cooked for real
Fury gets nerfed every week and arms is just not fun with sks. Bleak future

[tardy lark]

isnt that what it means..?

[mossy fox]

thats the tradeoff, if they take away burst they can afford to give more sustain

[pearl sequoia]

so wheres the sustain buff

[unreal shell]

In the oven hopefully

[edgy widget]

in our hopes and dreams

[crisp prism]

wdym you get your 3% overall nerf on top

[tulip swallow]

They have their best scientists working on it

[mossy fox]

it's the classic step 2

[crisp prism]

there is no buffs in warrior

only nerfs

[mossy fox]

just like arms ignore pain in df

[tardy lark]

our buff is on char creation screen when you hover over DK

[crisp prism]

or ret

[edgy widget]

Ret is honestly nutty

[vocal siren]

speaking of

im gonna start lvling my ret

[crisp prism]

ret is legit sleeper

[edgy widget]

a little less burst than Fury but even more frequent

[crisp prism]

secret op

[vocal siren]

is it really a secret

i see a lot of them

[verbal garden]

How many sparks should we have by now?

[heavy dock]

i dont think its a secret

most playd class in the game lol

[crisp prism]

no one complains about them

[tulip swallow]

They're good at everything, juiced spec

[crisp prism]

i still see people complain about fury

[heavy dock]

cuz ppl dont like warrior

[mossy fox]

my green geared lvl 77 dk did 1.5m over 30secs on 5 dummies and i dont rly know what im doing yet

[vocal siren]

i tried arguing a few times that fury outside of very nich aoe burst fights is not good

[edgy widget]

it's not really a secret, it's just caught in an awkward spot where it's doesn't have as much sustained damage as DK/Enh, but it's not as bursty as Fury, so it doesn't look OP anywhere

[vocal siren]

they all just say im lying

[heavy dock]

and rets dont take aggro off tanks

[tulip swallow]

it's people gettng mad that OF kills every world quest mob instantly

[oblique trail]

Ok then help buff my character by gearing and loot sharing for my new fdk

[vocal siren]

would you say its upper middle dps

[crisp prism]

Tbh imma say this

[oblique trail]

Think it's a fair trade

[crisp prism]

just delete odyns fury already

[edgy widget]

overall? yeah
in M+ probably even better

[heavy dock]

no bro

[crisp prism]

and give us something else

[tulip swallow]

nah OF is the juice

[tardy lark]

i wanted to play a dk as well

[tulip swallow]

delete onslaught

[tardy lark]

but then id have to level

[heavy dock]

we just got it back wit df dont remove it from me again

[crisp prism]

yes it is the juice

[vocal siren]

rets smoke me in M+

[crisp prism]

but they dont want us to have any juice

[sudden tusk]

i mean they need to rework almost all of our T3 talents outside AM/RA

[oblique trail]

Got a 70 from remix just gathering dust

[edgy widget]

OF is fine, especially after the upcoming nerfs

[sudden tusk]

they all do less damage then Caustic Spatter a T1 rogue talent

[oblique trail]

Predicted it was gonna be broken

[mossy fox]

ret is very strong in m+

[runic cypress]

Just do a full rework fury or arms

[vocal siren]

fuck it

im gonna lvl my ret

y'all convinced me

[edgy widget]

if anything, it's probably Titan's Torment that gets the

[mossy fox]

caustic spatter is just insane to me, it's just meat cleaver on steroids

[heavy dock]

what does that talent even do lol

[tulip swallow]

I would be ok with titans torment being kill if they buffed OF back up baseline

[runic cypress]

Make SMF great again

[vocal siren]

also quick dumb question

whats the general opener?

[heavy dock]

give me back legion odyn's fury

[vocal siren]

on ST and aoe both

[tardy lark]

lvling sesh tmr

[vocal siren]

are we macroing reck+avatar together

[crisp prism]

we kinda had that 2 weeks ago

[heavy dock]

nah

the big one

that was randomly empowered by helya/odyn too

[edgy widget]

that's basically what it is right now

[tulip swallow]

It was pretty close to legion OF before they nerfed it

[mossy fox]

if this happens maybe AM/berserkers builds catch up to RA a bit

[tulip swallow]

Not guaranteed crits ofc but it still fucked

[crisp prism]

i miss the heal effect on pvp

randomly going full hp

[mossy fox]

id love to play RA in raid and AM in m+ tbh

[crisp prism]

legit

i'm coping about AM for m+ still kinda

[modest condor]

bring back AM

[edgy widget]

Yeah I'd be ok with that

[heavy dock]

yeah 80% reck uptime build was fun

[sudden tusk]

nerf Titans Torment and just aura buff is like 10%

[edgy widget]

though I also like RA in M+ so I'm fine either way

I wish Thane were better for M+

[sudden tusk]

then we get to play 45 sec roar

[mossy fox]

same

[vocal siren]

anyone? whats the common opener

[runic cypress]

I wish thane was better for raid

[unreal shell]

This is all I want

[tulip swallow]

They need the tech to do aura tuning on hero specs indicidually

[runic cypress]

It's the best class fantasy spec by far

[crisp prism]

i kinda think atm i'm too cd dependant on m+

[unreal shell]

Brother check the pins or wowhead, it's all written out in lots of detail

[edgy widget]

IMO

• Thane and Colossus should be about equal as the top ST/cleave specs
• both Slayers should be a little lower, compensated for with higher AoE burst potential

[sudden tusk]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[crisp prism]

also i'm not nelf and pulling too much aggro

[mossy fox]

didnt they do that for colossus already

[vocal siren]

ugh

[crisp prism]

sometimes my cds go to garbage can

[vocal siren]

i dont wanna but i guess i will

[mossy fox]

the demolish debuff is stronger on prot isnt it

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[vocal siren]

i legit dont know what to do when my cds are down in M+

should i be saving 1 or 2 of my big AOE skills per pack?

should i blow them all on one pack?

[heavy dock]

u whirlwind bloodbath and crushing blow

[mossy fox]

your best to stay above tank

[tulip swallow]

Maybe, I was more thinking along the lines that it's kind of sad thane was also hit with the 3% aura nerf