and boot is same as belt
#fury
meager void
Its a 3ilvl fully upgraded, it wont make or break you
sullen dove
yea
so not rly big deal if u make belt/boot or whatever
but i suppose teeechnically bracer still best bet
get like .3 more strength from having 639 belt vs 639 bracer
holy
sullen dove
big 619 belt guy
meager void
I would say to not craft to replace a hero piece with tertiary
sullen dove
(got nice sockey guy from raid)
clever belfry
(got nice sockey guy from raid)
clever belfry
hold...
meager void
Precisely this case. If any of you have something like that, dear god dont craft there.
tired brook
Equipment Sets: FURYYYYYYY
sullen dove
good set name
clever belfry
(got nice sockey guy from raid)
fully holed or fuck off
sullen dove
check him pc now
chrome plover
grooss
meager void
Furry MT
Furry ST
Prot kekw
sullen dove
remove holes
clever belfry
no 639 wep kinda L tho
sullen dove
seems like holes dropping alot more frequently
this time around
yea only killed ulg this week no drop...
dry hawk
wish I had a better wrist/waist 😦
eternal sundial
(got nice sockey guy from raid)
wcloak
eternal sundial
wish I had a better wrist/waist 😦
hc craft on weapon 
clever belfry
certified meowmeow moment
sullen dove
need any of the 4 610s to drop at 613 so i am allowed to spend my last 60 runed crests...
this is very sad...
clever belfry
maybe if ur mog wasnt shit
sullen dove
and 606 ring from GB better than any other ring i have lol
dry hawk
hc craft on weapon <:sadge:820202363359854633>
didnt upgrade it lol
sullen dove
i got pickaxes bro
clever belfry
"kings honor friend" looking ass
bold plank
what are yall talkn about that would get us a free 619 craft
instead of using my 636 to make the bracers
sullen dove
do campaign
dry hawk
what are yall talkn about that would get us a free 619 craft
questline in spider place
sullen dove
get free enchanted heroic crest
clever belfry
do campaign
only need 1/4 for it afaik
chrome plover
yeah u just set up horde camp in dornagol or w/e
sullen dove
do whatever wowhead says to do to get the quest to kill ansurek
chrome plover
then you can get it
manic spindle
Uhg I'm 609 and a 587 surv hunter almost out-damaged me
sullen dove
verbal rivet
Uhg I'm 609 and a 587 surv hunter almost out-damaged me
Checks out
sullen dove
no not really...
chrome plover
no not really at all...
sullen dove
somethin goin wrong there...
gray wing
What's better, Everforged Greataxe or Charged Claymore?
sullen dove
doesnt matter all the same
just whatever mog you like best or whatevers cheaper
(charged halberd only answer)
(other two mogs fuckin ass)
just same polearm problems as always holding it way too high up..
o well
green jungle
is arms better than fury after nerf or they are both dead?
sullen dove
arms single target, can be good m+ if youre diehard fan, fury still owns raid, not tip top m+ but still like top 1/4 of the specs for it
sullen dove
yea i mean ppl will doom and whine all the time and yea, that might change a bit if the target reduction on of and roar go thru
cause it still hasnt
green jungle
i play fury for over 3 years now and the nerfs he is getting are absolutely insane
sullen dove
but like fury still plenty strong m+ just not as good as like 5-6 specs maybe
still a pool of like 25 dps specs tho
sullen dove
yea thats one of the big good ones
summer quail
yea i mean ppl will doom and whine all the time and yea, that might change a bit...
I will only doom when that goes through, or when it's close to that date. But i'm also on the copium that they will buff fury st to compensate
hardy cargo
it doesnt matter how much they nerf us as long as we hold out hope for buffs 
may not be tomorrow
but one day we will be ontop again
pure cairn
do we think timelessness is better on fury or frost for brood
summer quail
wtf is timelessness?
sullen dove
is... is that the aug threat reduction thing...
pure cairn
i seem to yoink a lot of aggro on spiders and some parasites but frost dk seems to complain aswell
aug reduction yah
sullen dove
brittle crow
but like fury still plenty strong m+ just not as good as like 5-6 specs maybe
what's top 5-6
rn
sullen dove
idk how many ppl actually use that talent
sullen dove
what's top 5-6
think like fdk/ret/sin/enhance/arcane most people are complaining about beating them
maybe something else im forgetting
olive wraith
Whenever I run keys and there’s a frost I feel like I pull aggro more often
sullen dove
torn cobalt
are they really nerfing us again?
olive wraith
The anniversary patch
sullen dove
thats what has been said but idk if they meant it
itd be in like a month or 2 from now
closer to 1 tbh
summer quail
what is the incoming nerf/
aoe scaling on odyns and roar. before it did full damage to 8 targets, now it's 5. square scaling after that
sullen dove
but weird to announce it so early
"hey guys we're gonna break your kneecaps for a fourth time but you get some breathing room we'll do it in a month or so ok have fun!"
olive wraith
Does spear soft cap at 8 still
torn cobalt
"hey guys we're gonna break your kneecaps for a fourth time but you get some bre...
what do you mean breathing room?
will they buff us :D?
torn cobalt
aha
sullen dove
just weird theres a buffer of time
like they gave us a warning for seemingly no reason
when previously it was just "ok spec is getting nerfed tomorrow o7"
warm crag
just weird theres a buffer of time
i will buffer you
sullen dove
buffer dn
pure totem
im coping so hard, that they will revert it, or at least give us some more sustain dmg idk
dense elbow
... and you get a S, and you get a S!
dense elbow
Could just say we all met the roof of pushing a lot quicker than normal
dry hawk
what Brann items are good solo?
velvet current
Hey everyone, I am new here, I just got back into WOW after taking a break when Pandaria came out! Needless to say this is a very different game.
I had a level 70 boost so I used it on my Fury warrior and want to start leveling but I don't know where to go for the guides/rotation. It seems if I look on Wowhead everyone says its not right, and if im on Icy I hear the same thing lol. Can somepne point me in the right direction!
covert blaze
me and <@593536556472729602>
covert blaze
Hey everyone, I am new here, I just got back into WOW after taking a break when ...
Wowhead
velvet current
Thanks, Is there a certian youtuber that is "the best" or a good one to watch?
ornate gust
Sikran reclear kill. Buff our ST 🤦🏻♂️
velvet current
I dont see a live tab lol
dry hawk
dont know why my scatter brain didnt think of this sooner...
that giant skull is Details
feral ivy
whats with the range of these abilitys in COT the last set of adds the scarab slam will hit u from the entrance of the building.. dawn the orb dmg will hit u from high in the sky sometimes even on boat
tidal kindle
dont know why my scatter brain didnt think of this sooner...
Normalize details covers in this post aug/post wcl censor world
https://www.twitch.tv/qtgarms/clip/SpicyRealCatPartyTime-p_RJTqyvWwf6Oy1x
🤝
warm crag
i mean just turn off details for prog ye
ovinax is unbearable if u dont hard gut plater and details
tidal kindle
I use it to check stuff still from pull to pull
But it's slow af
For update interval
Anything I want to go over after raid I do on logs
covert blaze
Normalize details covers in this post aug/post wcl censor world
https://www.tw...
ER off cd
L rizz
tidal kindle
But cba tabbing logs / game / clipped moment between pulls
covert blaze
pepelaff
feral ivy
in COT we destroyed the whole dungeon till last set of adds+last boss.. went from 0 deaths>25
humble plover
tidal kindle
High myopia associated with color / contrast visiok deficiency
High myopia = -6
I am -14
Thats the real
prisma rose
its over
opaque condor
any off hand now that actual value in single target loss from specing into WW for cleave over jugg single target talents?
restive narwhal
modest condor
i think we need to remove critcake from the skyhold streamer list
sinful sequoia
And next nerf inc... nice ❤️ thy blizz
modest condor
it's supposed to be for warriors, not dks
sudden tusk
barren coral
when is the aoe nerf happening any dates?
modest condor
no dates
sinful sequoia
Nobody knows they have time to nerf us more till then 🙂
barren coral
i think whining works to get your way in wow we need to upkeep
sinful sequoia
There is no relation anymore to other classes... we just get useless in high key´s :/
prisma rose
i think whining works to get your way in wow we need to upkeep
didnt saw this work on df season 1 when they murdered fury :/
barren coral
is there a dps class that seems to be in a permanent state of fotm?
i know rogues always topping charts but rogue players hate playing their own class so its a good trade off
prisma rose
is there a dps class that seems to be in a permanent state of fotm?
mage
upbeat sentinel
Ya if you’re gonna allow a whole class instead of just 1 spec, mage or hunter
scarlet swift
Not Doom-Bait, what has been a more fun alt for ya'll...Frost DK or Ret pally?
prisma rose
rogue always is on a nice place too
upbeat sentinel
Not Doom-Bait, what has been a more fun alt for ya'll...Frost DK or Ret pally?
Dk
prisma rose
Not Doom-Bait, what has been a more fun alt for ya'll...Frost DK or Ret pally?
fun is subjective, but with ret you have 0 skill expression
class plays itself
upbeat sentinel
rogue always is on a nice place too
Ya it just always fucking sucks to play
prisma rose
Ya it just always fucking sucks to play
i love it
just dislike a little outlaw
sin and sub ❤️
sinful sequoia
Ret Pally got "nerfed" and still has a 30 sec. CD rotation with spam of 2 buttons...
upbeat sentinel
Ret Pally got "nerfed" and still has a 30 sec. CD rotation with spam of 2 button...
The nerf was to their damage output not their degenerate play style
upbeat sentinel
I think you mean there’s a low af skill ceiling
sinful sequoia
Yes. still gets more value as Fury..... or arms (we dont even need to talk about it)
upbeat sentinel
No skill ceiling would imply you can improve endlessly
prisma rose
a show box ceiling instead of a true ceiling
scarlet swift
isnt Oblit also basically Ret skill-level? or is oblit not the playstyle and its all breathe?
prisma rose
ye
open prairie
i know rogues always topping charts but rogue players hate playing their own cla...
not this season
but probably mage
upbeat sentinel
isnt Oblit also basically Ret skill-level? or is oblit not the playstyle and its...
Pretty sure there’s no more pure oblit builds
It’s either oblit + SB or oblit + breath
barren coral
not this season
sub seems great in raids and sin great in m+
altough im kinda cheating with 3 dps specs ur bound to have smth going on for you
brittle crow
wahhhh i need class counseling
open prairie
i mean….
brittle crow
i cant decide what to play to cope with fury nerfs
open prairie
sub isnt that crazy in raid
pliant jackal
imagine if rogue dps specs were all bad lmao
sinful sequoia
not this season
Like Rouge is destroying in m+
open prairie
sin rogue is insane on m+
besides being melee
yes
whichever dev designed these dungeons
prisma rose
dungeons are uber fine for melee
pliant jackal
yea its a great season for melee imo
scarlet swift
part of me also wants to be ret for that "option" of being ranged when needed 😄
open prairie
ok thats cope
brittle crow
complaining abt melee makes u sound like a havoc dh main
sinful sequoia
complaining abt melee makes u sound like a havoc dh main
XD
prisma rose
complaining abt melee makes u sound like a havoc dh main
how is dh?
brittle crow
"waaaaa we're still melee even though we have unparalleled mobility :("
pliant jackal
anyone who is complaining about melee for m+ is wrong
brittle crow
how is dh?
idk im a warrior main
prisma rose
not seeing many of them on keys
brittle crow
they burst crazy tho
brittle crow
they have actual st dps tho
prisma rose
pretty sure havoc is in similar damage profile
with way better st
brittle crow
we dont
open prairie
high burst aoe
prisma rose
WAY
sinful sequoia
idk im a warrior main
Also Warrior Main but gonna swap or just watch others do the work
open prairie
they dont really play
pliant jackal
people rather have dks and pallys
open prairie
aoe talents in raid
brittle crow
man maybe i should just play fdk
pliant jackal
everyone is leveling a dk right now
brittle crow
but i dont wanna learn blood
open prairie
mostly because their “aoe build” has ramp
sinful sequoia
man maybe i should just play fdk
fdk is the solution :X
brittle crow
fdk is the solution :X
i dont play classes unless i can play all their specs
open prairie
and i think vdh is either
pliant jackal
its a bad day when critcake is leveling a dk
prisma rose
dh is solid, huge burst and better st than fury
sinful sequoia
i dont play classes unless i can play all their specs
Yeah, can understand. I will not change from Warrior anyway but it ist just boring to be capped ... not because of skill. Just because blizz is to lazy to rework correclty
prisma rose
its just a better fury
scarlet swift
but if you pick DK/Ret, you get bonus from your DH tank too 😄
open prairie
dh is solid, huge burst and better st than fury
dh its just bad players get deterred
scarlet swift
pure phys dmg chars are down bad, which is basically just warriors now
abstract wharf
hey mina san, is there any kind of crit or mastery cap? i have seen some big pumbers with no-mastery itens like crit haste ring. is that right?
open prairie
from having to dash around for dps
prisma rose
tru
buoyant salmon
pure phys dmg chars are down bad, which is basically just warriors now
just not true
dh should be great but they just arent really
open prairie
look how many dh players try to create “no mover” builds
scarlet swift
who does battle shout "truly" help, besides warriors? rogues kinda? how much is psn dmg?
buoyant salmon
idk why youd play a no mover dh build
buoyant salmon
moving is the fun part
scarlet swift
ret is holy, dk is frost?
buoyant salmon
yeah
drifting stirrup
Anyone got a tempered potion macro (with all the ranks?)
buoyant salmon
dh is unbelievably fun with a mover build
buoyant salmon
inc choco saying how amazing war is
better than dh for sure
i’m sure we can agree on that
prisma rose
better than dh for sure
buoyant salmon
brother..
barren coral
sub isnt that crazy in raid
it has i think the best raid boss dmg right now but idk if that matters much
pliant jackal
for some reason i haven't seen any dh
open prairie
it has i think the best raid boss dmg right now but idk if that matters much
not even
sinful sequoia
better than dh for sure
Like there is nothing better as warr.... Sadly nobody needs them soon
open prairie
for some reason i haven't seen any dh
it deters noobs
having extremely tight burst windows
centered around your movement abilities
pliant jackal
the dad gamers really don't like the movement builds
scarlet swift
the dad gamers really don't like the movement builds
i feel attacked, but you're right
DH is a zoomer style
sinful sequoia
Guys.. get your Rio now.. ❤️ there is no long time remaning
clever belfry
who does battle shout "truly" help, besides warriors? rogues kinda? how much is ...
battle shout doesn't increase phys damage
but attack power
all those classes damage scales off of attack power
monk debuff is kinda shite frankly, warrior buff is for all melee+hunters
covert void
you know we're fucked when even crip is playing a dk wtf
prisma rose
Guys.. get your Rio now.. ❤️ there is no long time remaning
remaining for what
tidal kindle
look how many dh players try to create “no mover” builds
Miss momentum TG CS gameplay
That was goat
Bring it back...
scarlet swift
battle shout doesn't increase phys damage
but attack power
all those classes dam...
so for 2 people in a whole raid?
open prairie
for some reason i haven't seen any dh
anytime i do low alt content
the dhs just press no buttons
sinful sequoia
after nerf... furry gonna be useless^^
open prairie
relative to how many globals pass
clever belfry
so for 2 people in a whole raid?
can you read
open prairie
also can you imagine average ranged main playing one
dash into frontal
dead
x 100
sinful sequoia
remaining for what
No invites for any highkey... no ST no AoE ... no support
sinful sequoia
<@413532942762246144>
?
pliant jackal
people talk about warrior have no utility but dks acutally have no utility
open prairie
their utility
prisma rose
people talk about warrior have no utility but dks acutally have no utility
yeah, ams and brez are terrible
lol
open prairie
is big dam
prisma rose
plus dmg
open prairie
yeah, ams and brez are terrible
both of which dk have had for years
lets be real the main factor is just damage
prisma rose
yeah, didnt said it was a reason to get invited
spare steppe
Grip is sometimes necessary for fights
pliant jackal
i meant cc wise
scarlet swift
Evoker was top DPS in Queen and Top Heals, where is their nerf? better nerf warrior instead...AMIRIGHT
prisma rose
but when you compared classes with similar dmg and one with way more utility than other, the pick is clear
olive wraith
Aren’t they nerfing pres
sinful sequoia
but when you compared classes with similar dmg and one with way more utility tha...
Not Fury warrior ^^
pliant jackal
but yes you are right their brez and amz is good
summer quail
Evoker was top DPS in Queen and Top Heals, where is their nerf? better nerf warr...
their nerf is on wednesday. small nerf tho
pliant jackal
even ams is really good with the shield that can spread to your teammates
pliant jackal
because melee isn't really invite for utility
prisma rose
why isnt ret meta in more seasons
because utility isnt the only factor
buoyant salmon
but when you compared classes with similar dmg and one with way more utility tha...
name 1 time thats ever mattered ever in relevant keys
prisma rose
thats why i said utility + dmg
pliant jackal
other than interrupts
prisma rose
ret has similar dmg than war ( overall is higher ) why would you pick a war instead of a ret lol
buoyant salmon
warrior does more damage in a physical comp
sinful sequoia
ret has similar dmg than war ( overall is higher ) why would you pick a war inst...
ret is under warr in m+ content?
buoyant salmon
by a decent margin
prisma rose
ret is under warr in m+ content?
no
buoyant salmon
ret is under warr in m+ content?
they’re about equal
buoyant salmon
ret a little bit better, depending on comp
prisma rose
overall dmg ret offers more, and have 10x more utility
prisma rose
when dmg is similar, utility is the deal breaker
open prairie
but dh is kinda squish compared to dk
sinful sequoia
overall dmg ret offers more, and have 10x more utility
thats right.
olive wraith
Is vdh the uncontested tank rn?
open prairie
not really
vocal siren
so
olive wraith
Feel like tanks are pretty open
vocal siren
im feeling a definite lack of dps in M+ if my cooldowns aren't up
olive wraith
In keys at least
vocal siren
and if packs last a while on higher keys my dps plummets
sinful sequoia
Dosent matter. Fury is dead if patchnotes will not be updatet before release
vocal siren
rets tend to blow me out of the water consistently
scarlet swift
i think DH is bis for MDI for straight mobility abuse
vocal siren
not sure what im doing wrong tbh
meager void
heyo is there a cook on dropping the 2x points in Overwhelming Rage?
since we cap so much anyways
red quiver
Okay, I'm a prot main trying out fury, so I got the dumbest question for you guys.
open prairie
i mean dhs are kind of immortal in massive pulls
pliant jackal
dungeons feel pretty straight forward this season
red quiver
...as a mountain thane, do I even need whirlwind keybound? Seems like Thunderclap is doing the business.
open prairie
but become paper when their cds run out
scarlet swift
fury doesnt run mountain thane 🙂 but yes
sinful sequoia
...as a mountain thane, do I even need whirlwind keybound? Seems like Thundercla...
no need
buoyant salmon
havoc just doesnt do enough damage
pale lava
not sure what im doing wrong tbh
nothing wrong, you're not supposed to win against a ret
pale lava
if you win the ret is bad
prisma rose
havoc just doesnt do enough damage
vocal siren
wait
buoyant salmon
rets tend to blow me out of the water consistently
syou shouldnt be blown out of the wayer
water
vocal siren
are u s1nnermighty or not
red quiver
Hell yeah, whirlwind hitting that dumpster.
buoyant salmon
<:keks:936231610850897992>
its true in m+ they just arent good enough
pale lava
are u s1nnermighty or not
no
sinful sequoia
if you win the ret is bad
yeah, just shout and chill
vocal siren
ok nm
open prairie
the only upside is most rets are dumb padlords
and will divine storm as long as theres 2 red nameplates
on the screen
vocal siren
yeah i mean
barren coral
nothing wrong, you're not supposed to win against a ret
do they have like the best burst aoe in pve rn? high m+ score rets are the only spec that makes me feel like im doing something wrong
vocal siren
im 610 ilvl, my gear isn't the best but i feel like w/o cooldowns im trashhh
pale lava
do they have like the best burst aoe in pve rn? high m+ score rets are the only ...
not sure which one has higher burst, fdk or ret
open prairie
no the best burst rn in st is probably trickster sub
pale lava
enha is turbo busted too
open prairie
but you limp dick once cds are gone
sinful sequoia
do they have like the best burst aoe in pve rn? high m+ score rets are the only ...
Really only rets? What kind of keys and which rio?
barren coral
not sure which one has higher burst, fdk or ret
what about elesham
vocal siren
lets not even talk about single targt dps lol
pale lava
ele is good but not busted
sinful sequoia
I can name alot of Classes that should let you feel that way
vocal siren
@static loom hi frind
barren coral
Really only rets? What kind of keys and which rio?
just +5s i dont like m+ enough to do something challenging
vocal siren
rmembr me?
pale lava
or at least I haven't seen any ele do busted dps
open prairie
tbh most good rets i run into
vocal siren
last time i was in this discord was 2018 i think
vocal siren
and i was in the special people's privat channel
sinful sequoia
just +5s i dont like m+ enough to do something challenging
yeah go 10/11 you will see we are already dead or lets say we have really hard fight to hold
red quiver
Have the nerfs on us gone through already?
sinful sequoia
no
buoyant salmon
this weird narrative that fury sucks is cringe af
sinful sequoia
thanks god
pale lava
ye fury's awesome when stuff dies during your opener
vocal siren
I mean
I'm genuinely confused then because our single target is middle of the road and if we dont have cds for trash we're trash
river viper
fury is probably one of the best specs in 5s
yeah which only happens in low keys and in the raid where the mobs have only got 50HP
sinful sequoia
yeah which only happens in low keys and in the raid where the mobs have only got...
yep.. in rest of content we are just crap
sinful sequoia
good solution destroying a spec because its a a tier raid profil :X
open prairie
because its the main content
river viper
in the raid everything seems to take more damage. Doing like 1 mil dmg ST then I go in M+ and get owned by some shitty 606 ret pally ... its fucked up
open prairie
last time dps warrior was relevant at the highest key level
was 7.2.5
and it wasnt for “utility”
granite kettle
in the raid everything seems to take more damage. Doing like 1 mil dmg ST then I...
ret pallys been embarassing me all xpac so far lmao
pale lava
in the raid everything seems to take more damage. Doing like 1 mil dmg ST then I...
timings line up perfectly for fury in raid so you always have cds for the ads that have 50 hp
open prairie
you just lobbed your ravager and deleted the entire screen
warm crag
last time dps warrior was relevant at the highest key level
it was top dog for freehold in the aug patch before aug release
open prairie
idk most rets i run into
as soon as you go into bosses
they’re barely catching up to prot
vocal siren
thats some bad rets
rets keep up with me in single target
and crush me on every other pack
open prairie
yeah i mean most rets are bad
sinful sequoia
guys will not change... class is gonna just die if nothing changes
vocal siren
where i dont have BS/cds
modest condor
i got a ret from project in my pug yesterday, he did 1.8mil overall
pale lava
yeah i mean most rets are bad
my brother is new to wow and is using hekili on ret until he gets more comfortable with the game, he's casually bursting millions on every pack at 590 ilvl
open prairie
well yeah, ret from decent guild
pale lava
¯_(ツ)_/¯
open prairie
my brother is new to wow and is using hekili on ret until he gets more comfortab...
thats how i feel playing dh
pliant jackal
ret with a half of a brain will do deeps
open prairie
even when i go 4+ years not playing it
pale lava
but we have gaslighters telling us ret is not better
warm crag
whomst
pale lava
scroll up, you'll see a bunch
warm crag
respond to them
pale lava
ret with a half of a brain will do deeps
spec design is good, it's not overly complicated and can actually live stuff
river viper
I think when we get fucked in november arms is going to be the way forward. Been playing my arms alt today as colossus and its fun and does a lot of damage. It's just got more of a build up and self healing is shite
vocal siren
i got baited into coming back
friend told me this expac actually good
fury OP
come back right in time to eat 3-4 nerfs
i was 6+ years WoW clean too
pale lava
the simplest melee?
nah that's slayer arms
pliant jackal
if you can set up your cds good frost dks are pretty easy
open prairie
nah that's slayer arms
pliant jackal
lol
pale lava
breath is turbo cringe yes
vocal siren
proc city isn't it
open prairie
its weird
vocal siren
its been like
open prairie
breath is either a talent people love or hate
pliant jackal
isn't proc city ench shammy
open prairie
from my experience
vocal siren
proc city for multiple expacs
pliant jackal
i don't think anybody really likes breath
open prairie
you live off proc reset spam
buoyant salmon
give me a break
vocal siren
I mean
pale lava
vocal siren
i literally last played first raid tier BFA
so i don't know what its been like
my experience is whats going on now
sullen dove
(still one of the best specs to play in anything)
(just not better than like 5 specs in m+ oh no)
vocal siren
I mean, its fun
vocal siren
sigh
sullen dove
nathria
vocal siren
i miss when i was better known
open prairie
nathria <:critcake:984549832511344640>
ok that was a fuck you melee tier
except dks
vocal siren
no one remembes me anymore on this discord
buoyant salmon
nathria <:critcake:984549832511344640>
still brought arms and prot
2 warriors in the raid
sullen dove
doomer when called out for dooming leaves when i type a message lul
pliant jackal
during nathria unholy was amazing for raid and frost was pretty good in m+
buoyant salmon
when warrior was shit as fuck
open prairie
i mean
buoyant salmon
denathrius
sullen dove
i mean prot makes sense still need buff man
buoyant salmon
world first
sullen dove
o well sure warr was fine on denath i think addwise, and like remornia condemn cleave was big
but general rest of the raid kinda doggy
pliant jackal
PI with army of the dead was top dps on meters
buoyant salmon
true but still even when dps warrior was its weakest it still was brought in some capacity
open prairie
while also having the best dam
ashen siren
guys what's our offset piece
pliant jackal
yea people were running 2-3 dks on raid
open prairie
i mean biggest mistake is still creating aug
teal pine
Frost kinda feels like arms but better gameplay wise to me. Without breath at least
Kinda love it
pliant jackal
only 2% of m+ is auggies
open prairie
for now
pliant jackal
the only people who would play aug are the same people who play healers
buoyant salmon
thats just not true
prisma rose
aug should just be deleted
pliant jackal
also why would people play aug when dev is just better and easier to play
pliant jackal
we already do
prisma rose
also why would people play aug when dev is just better and easier to play
dev is prob the easiest spec in the game
and aug the hardest
pliant jackal
see them in high keys
prisma rose
easily
open prairie
dev is prob the easiest spec in the game
bm hunter
pliant jackal
but people aren't playing them
prisma rose
idk at least ret has higher apm
barren coral
but people aren't playing them
furry design will make them always niche like pandas
prisma rose
dev is like 30 apm
pulsar quest
I would play evoker if I didn’t have to be weird ass dragon
barren coral
its not like they even had to make them this ugly we had plenty human-dragon races before
and wow takes insane amounts of aesthethic liberties
pulsar quest
Isn’t there a graph for class apm
barren coral
but no we needed biblically accurate dragonkin
open prairie
highest apm specs i’ve played are probs
df prepatch outlaw
and necrolord prot warr
prisma rose
idk i dont think ret is high apm
didnt said was high, but way higher then dev
literally double lmao
prisma rose
barren coral
why is ret pressing this many buttons
open prairie
oh there we go
prisma rose
why is ret pressing this many buttons
many blade procs, divine justice procs, hammer procs
pliant jackal
is prot pally still shit?
prisma rose
yeah
storm rune
everything is fun when the gcd is capped
jolly mist
guys is egg simbait or is it acutally good
prisma rose
is prot pally still shit?
idk, yoda said not a single tank is " shit " but they could use some love
storm rune
prot pally is a bit of a wet paper bag, it's like if bear simply didn't have incarn
open prairie
blood dk is how you get some random reddit healer to have a heart attack
verbal rivet
Good Prot Palis are chillin.
open prairie
over your hp bar
verbal rivet
blood dk is how you get some random reddit healer to have a heart attack
Have you seen Brewmaster lmaoooo?????
verbal rivet
do brews yoyo
Oh god they yo yo rn lmao
rotund ginkgo
hi guys
verbal rivet
They don’t die, but they go to 25% pretty much every other global when they are actually tanking. Super easy to heal tho if the brew is good
open prairie
i like seeing bdks drop to literal
rotund ginkgo
Hi sponge :3
open prairie
1% hp
warm crag
when will the nerfs stop?
open prairie
and top themselves
vocal siren
how do I get stormforged back 😦
warm crag
Hi sponge :3
hello foolish man
rotund ginkgo
I had a blood dk ask me why didn't I use my stun on the first pack of nw when he died 15s into it, while still having list up, after starting the pull with ibf
vocal siren
I miss that role
verbal rivet
and top themselves
Honestly fair, Brew does the same thing but they keep swinging back down to low HP lmao
rotund ginkgo
Having lust up*
pliant jackal
i feel like dks are either really good or bad lol
barren coral
i feel like dks are either really good or bad lol
well that covers most scenarios
verbal rivet
i feel like dks are either really good or bad lol
Immortal or useless, no in between
rotund ginkgo
hello foolish man
So angy
verbal rivet
Blood DK being “mid” is just useless.
pliant jackal
blood dk are just really different from a traditional tank
open prairie
i saw a 599 bdk with all 10s
rotund ginkgo
Chad
verbal rivet
Good tank players
rotund ginkgo
Did like 550 or 600 overall too
open prairie
db?
verbal rivet
Dawnbreaker
open prairie
oh right
rotund ginkgo
Breaker of dawn
open prairie
i like doing grim batols in voice and just hearing tank talk about his shit being pushed in
every pack
fiery hare
Someone told me prot war is best m+ tank,is that true or ? Might wanna try tsnking cuz getting in as fury is aids
mint abyss
How much M+ Keys do u guys think u can do just swapping to S/B using fury gear and tanking
rotund ginkgo
Yes prot war is huge
rotund ginkgo
How much M+ Keys do u guys think u can do just swapping to S/B using fury gear a...
Huh
verbal rivet
Someone told me prot war is best m+ tank,is that true or ? Might wanna try tsnki...
Bear is, by a lot. But Prot War still putting in Work.
verbal rivet
Ima just delete my war now smh
fiery hare
I still got 593 sac lol
rotund ginkgo
Filthy padder
open prairie
prot is also a showcase
rotund ginkgo
I wanna try to tank using fury gear lol I dont wanna farm tank gear over
That's fine
open prairie
of how thane was clearly made
hard widget
open prairie
for prot not fury
rotund ginkgo
Prot warr uses crit haste so ur not too far off w hast mast
mint abyss
Just need 1h and shield lol
open prairie
what does crit do for prot anyway
verbal rivet
what does crit do for prot anyway
Damage
teal pine
just damage
pliant jackal
mint abyss
Prot warr uses crit haste so ur not too far off w hast mast
Where can I get ez 1 hand and shield
rotund ginkgo
Probably has talents with "X crits reduce cd" or something
rotund ginkgo
Where can I get ez 1 hand and shield
Auction house
olive wraith
Where can I get ez 1 hand and shield
Delves
rotund ginkgo
Delves
fiery hare
So charge press tclap and win rite? Ezpz
mint abyss
Ah ok
forest owl
is it better for me to go authority of the depths and radiant power if i do both raiding and m+?
rotund ginkgo
Doesn't rly matter, I go double depths
verbal rivet
Where can I get ez 1 hand and shield
Crafting the PvP weapon and if you have the spark, can make the shield.
open prairie
Probably has talents with "X crits reduce cd" or something
not sure if if does
4p triggers off shield slam crits iirc
olive wraith
Isn’t there something about blocking and crit
dense elbow
That do be warrior prot mastery
teal pine
crit doesnt affect that though
verbal rivet
Revenge maybe????
teal pine
crit also gives tanks parry which is a nice little bonus
rotund ginkgo
Idk dawg just go crit haste
teal pine
but its just the damage that crit gives that they care about mostly
dense elbow
what ya on about prot in Fury for?
verbal rivet
Idk dawg just go crit haste
This, channel your inner electric wrecking ball
rotund ginkgo
Yh this guy asking prot questions in fury
quartz tulip
these runed harbinger crests being capped
dense elbow
Poor guy, send him to #protection for some real help
quartz tulip
is fuckin dog shit
rotund ginkgo
Brb gonna ask prot questions in fdk discord
pliant jackal
those prot guys think they are better than us
open prairie
gilded being capped matters more
dense elbow
those prot guys think they are better than us
They are, they not getting nerfed - nuff said
pliant jackal
lol
verbal rivet
Brb gonna ask prot questions in fdk discord
Was lurking over there earlier, they were casually chatting about doing 10+s. That’s what getting invites looks like
dense elbow
Prot warr is super tanky
rotund ginkgo
Was lurking over there earlier, they were casually chatting about doing 10+s. Th...
Just suck a tanks dick or go tank
Or run ur own keys
quartz tulip
i legit just tank keys in haste mastery geart
olive wraith
Prot damage feels pretty damn good too
dense elbow
Madlad
rotund ginkgo
Prot warr is super tanky
Yh so he enjoys being tanky more than he enjoys "being the better tank"
verbal rivet
Just suck a tanks dick or go tank
It’s what I’m doing
rotund ginkgo
Cuz like he survives
Whereas he feels he has more aggro issues w bear and he needs to be babied more
dense elbow
Then tell him to go prot warr - dying as prot warr = you was superdead as anything else
rotund ginkgo
Based
teal pine
is bear even better
rotund ginkgo
He is going prot
teal pine
idk about tanks right now
rotund ginkgo
He's 2.7 on his prot rn
dense elbow
King
dense elbow
Hero is carrying you too? Hope his back dont break
thoughts and prayers sent his way
rotund ginkgo
@hard widget soon as I get that 639 sac I'm coming for u
rotund ginkgo
Hero is carrying you too? Hope his back dont break
That fucker kills me with tank mechs every chance he gets
Meld is a godsend w him
modest condor
dense elbow
606?
rotund ginkgo
Ur so real for that sil
modest condor
yes i know it shows the ilvl twice idk which addons do that and i cba figuring it out
prisma rose
anyone ever tried enh?
fickle bluff
nope not one guy
rotund ginkgo
Probably elvui
modest condor
i dont use elvui
dense elbow
What is enh?
teal pine
deja
rotund ginkgo
Could be elvui then sil
modest condor
could be deja
hard widget
<@637785960108654602> soon as I get that 639 sac I'm coming for u
I hope you do bro ❤️
hard widget
http://puu.sh/KfTs4/b9a88a7fbc.png
Need me to help u trade?
vocal siren
Whose the server owner again
dense elbow
Toxic Jeve at it again
modest condor
Need me to help u trade?
yes
rotund ginkgo
Jev help me trade tomorrow
vocal siren
I forgot
modest condor
let's go double warrior pugs
rotund ginkgo
Toxic Jeve at it again
How's that toxic
rotund ginkgo
He was sincere
dense elbow
If you know you know
rotund ginkgo
Wym
barren coral
do you guys actually manage to get good value vaults on more than 1 char per week?
dense elbow
You clearly dont know
hard widget
let's go double warrior pugs
I dont even get invited as single warrior lmao
rotund ginkgo
Ion see a reason for jev to ever be toxic towards me unless I specifically shame his textures
hard widget
What am i missing Funky?
rotund ginkgo
Idk funky said ur toxic cuz u hope I'll reach u
dense elbow
We just talking about Rag being carried
hard widget
Ion see a reason for jev to ever be toxic towards me unless I specifically shame...
U did kinda shame my textures xd
modest condor
i've had fairly good luck with getting invited to 7-9 keys so far
hard widget
We just talking about Rag being carried
I didnt see that
rotund ginkgo
♥️
hard widget
Kekw
rotund ginkgo
I didnt see that
Lmao yeah I'm getting into keys using my tank friend privileges
Doesn't mean they're timed
hard widget
I dont blame you
hard widget
I had a great boost team with me for week 1, so got all my 11's done week 1 pretty much
But its horrible
rotund ginkgo
"my orb, fuck. This one's on me guys"
dense elbow
Grim Batol, healing req, is kinda silly tho
hard widget
This season is absolutely dogshit in terms of m+ so far if you ask me
rotund ginkgo
I swear I haven't seen any good casters 2.6 or higher
hard widget
Not enjoying it at all
rotund ginkgo
hard widget
Pugging 12's is almost impossible and im quite sure keys wont go much higher than 12 to begin with
dense elbow
Think they made the step from 11 to 12, then up a bit too steep
rotund ginkgo
@hard widget this lives rent free in my head
hard widget
+13 title range keys 🤡
dense elbow
I havent checked, ppl not done 13-14 range yet?
modest condor
i mean there's still like 15 ilvls to gain, im sure we'll be able to pug 12s more in a couple of weeks
hard widget
<@637785960108654602> this lives rent free in my head
Wut?
rotund ginkgo
Nah only a few 13s
modest condor
i think title range will be 14-15
dense elbow
14-15 sounds about right then
hard widget
i mean there's still like 15 ilvls to gain, im sure we'll be able to pug 12s mor...
We were struggling with 14-15 on beta with 626 and affix wasnt active
hard widget
Ohh
modest condor
yeah but 626 is 13 ilvls below max, and you didnt have months of practice in
rotund ginkgo
K E K
modest condor
people are already timing 13s right now
hard widget
yeah but 626 is 13 ilvls below max, and you didnt have months of practice in
Yeah ofcourse but i dont see many pugs do higher than 13 some keys 14
rotund ginkgo
He clicked it once the whole key and it was a whiff
hard widget
And pugs will be miles behind progess of teams
dense elbow
Arent they always?
rotund ginkgo
I'm calling cutoff being full 14/15s
hard widget
Arent they always?
No
hard widget
I'm calling cutoff being full 14/15s
I think it'll be lower
dense elbow
How did it look last season end?
rotund ginkgo
With some 16s maybe like ara and db
forest owl
what enchants do ppl run if they raid and do m+?
rotund ginkgo
That's my call
hard widget
How did it look last season end?
U can pug 1-2 keyslevels lower than teams
rotund ginkgo
15s
hard widget
Pretty reliably
dense elbow
Ye, sounds about right
hard widget
Yeah but the gap from 11 -> 12 is so big its uncomparable
rotund ginkgo
And teams did 32s 33s
rotund ginkgo
Yall reckon 3k will be cutoff?
hard widget
And be stuck on 12s
dense elbow
Well, 11 to 12 is huge - for sure, but 13-14, 14-15 is the real tests
hard widget
We barely timed a mist 12 in a pug without comms that was almost flawless
dense elbow
Pretty sure 12-13 will be the wall for most
rotund ginkgo
Well, 11 to 12 is huge - for sure, but 13-14, 14-15 is the real tests
Numbers wise 11 to 12 is the same as 13 to 15
Because of affix
So the jump in terms of damahe and hp
Relative wise
modest condor
We barely timed a mist 12 in a pug without comms that was almost flawless
2nd week and you already timed a +12 in a pug without comms, sounds like in a couple of weeks you'll be able to pug 13-14 mists
hard widget
2nd week and you already timed a +12 in a pug without comms, sounds like in a co...
I did time it
dense elbow
I need to try a 12, only done a 11. Time to put on my tanking cap next week
rotund ginkgo
Jev have u considered rerolling to the real warrior class?
hard widget
Jev have u considered rerolling to the real warrior class?
Im already leveling a dk
modest condor
people pugging title range keys are never "just players"
rotund ginkgo
Im already leveling a dk
Ur so based for that queen
Rawgish is level 74
And retgish is 70 just in case I decide to spice it up
hard widget
people pugging title range keys are never "just players"
Right now, im barely able to play the game. Because people rather take Andy the frost dk with 2.5k score in DF with 613 Ilvl, instead of taking me. And if you get taken its 90% chance ur playing with people that have no business being there because 11's are easy to do so you cant filter at all
rotund ginkgo
people pugging title range keys are never "just players"
Cap
dense elbow
Im already leveling a dk
rotund ginkgo
Title range fotm rerollers aren't the same as m+ Specialists
heavy dock
people pugging title range keys are never "just players"
can u translate what u meant with this lol
hard widget
Rawgish is level 74
73 here 😦
rotund ginkgo
can u translate what u meant with this lol
Sil is under the impression that the average title range player is good
Which is incorrect
rotund ginkgo
Wym?
hard widget
If they play offmeta classes they are good. If they play meta most likely 90% of em are not great
rotund ginkgo
I just linked you a pic of a 2.6k shaman with LITERALLY 0 INTERRUPTS CLICKED in a timed +9
heavy dock
what the fuck is title range xd
dense elbow
Good is far from great
hard widget
If u play a meta class all u need is time, and eventually u'll get in a team that is good enough to carry ur ass
dense elbow
But calling players not good, when they getting title, seems kinda... off
hard widget
But calling players not good, when they getting title, seems kinda... off
Augmentation evoker season 3 when it just released disagrees with you
open prairie
they should make title not account wide
vocal siren
people will always call people not them not good to make themselves feel better about being "good"
rotund ginkgo
If I time 4 out of 30 keys I have more Rio than jev, who timed 3 out of 5 keys. Despite jev having a higher key completion percentage
vocal siren
whatever good is
dense elbow
You just jelly, Jeve
rotund ginkgo
Augmentation evoker season 3 when it just released disagrees with you
Szn 2
dense elbow
I am sure it took dedication to play scalie boy
hard widget
You just jelly, Jeve
Why? I get my title
warm crag
If I time 4 out of 30 keys I have more Rio than jev, who timed 3 out of 5 keys. ...
ok but score isnt measuring accuracy its measuring highest ever
rotund ginkgo
ok but score isnt measuring accuracy its measuring highest ever
Exactly
Which is why if I just literally no life as a meta class and eventually time sometging
open prairie
i think the biggest 1 timer title i see the most
vocal siren
man i do not recognize anyone in chat here anymore. people must have just quit wow over the last 6 years
rotund ginkgo
It doesn't inherently make me a good 9lsyer
open prairie
is thundering hero
hard widget
I remember in season 3 i made an evoker alt to see how busted it was. I was getting invited into 24-25 keys with 40 ilvls lower than the rest. Purely of how busted it was
rotund ginkgo
Good player*
warm crag
you are statistically a good m+ player if you get title
rotund ginkgo
Depends on class and numbers of keys completed imo
warm crag
it really doesnt
dense elbow
uhuh
open prairie
why is m+ title account wide
hard widget
No Spongie is right
open prairie
the pvp ones are still character only
rotund ginkgo
That's my opinion spongie
hard widget
But there is a big difference in offmeta title players and meta title players
hard widget
And even in the title range the gaps are HUGE
open prairie
pvp title is literally char bound
warm crag
That's my opinion spongie
i mean ok but i still get to say ur a noober
hard widget
Its like the same with league of legends, Master tier is REALLY good. But challenger shits on them
rotund ginkgo
i mean ok but i still get to say ur a noober
Well idc because I got title :3
warm crag
Well idc because I got title :3
congratulation i stop touching m+ 3 weeks into tier
dense elbow
Ye, but there is a difference from being good, great, and excelling
rotund ginkgo
Its like the same with league of legends, Master tier is REALLY good. But challe...
A better example would be chall 200 lp being nothing like chall 1000 lp
hard widget
Ye, but there is a difference from being good, great, and excelling
This is title range
rotund ginkgo
congratulation i stop touching m+ 3 weeks into tier
Why must u hate on me so furiously
open prairie
but in some areas late CE is kinda 💩
hard widget
There is just really big differences in player skill within title range
warm crag
Why must u hate on me so furiously
i am not, it is literally an accomplishment in my eyes to get title
dense elbow
Sure, but calling someone bad - when you compare them to bad players, is kinda
rotund ginkgo
Even within CE, wr1500 or wr2000 aren't good compared to wr300 same way wr300 isn't good compared to wr50
dense elbow
ya know
rotund ginkgo
i am not, it is literally an accomplishment in my eyes to get title
U just said u gonna call me a noober :<
open prairie
Even within CE, wr1500 or wr2000 aren't good compared to wr300 same way wr300 is...
tbh same with pvp i think
warm crag
its pegged to be within a high percentile of players and you achieved just that
i am simply not a minigamer though
rotund ginkgo
Pegged?
restive peak
What are we complaining about now?
dense elbow
Defenition of what good is
rotund ginkgo
How ur not sending me pics of ur glute spread
warm crag
For example I'd think a 2.7 windwalker is FAR better than a 2.7 mage
whats ur highest rank
rotund ginkgo
whats ur highest rank
Rio u mean?
warm crag
What are we complaining about now?
linc not having myth trach yet
hard widget
What are we complaining about now?
You being too good for other title range players linc
warm crag
Rio u mean?
pvp
rotund ginkgo
Im not a pvper
restive peak
Bro Kyveza just doesn't wanna die
dense elbow
I personally find Linnc to be evil
restive peak
I actually stepped down in rank/raid time this week
modest condor
Bro Kyveza just doesn't wanna die
skill issue
warm crag
Im not a pvper
i asked a question that has a numerical true answer
hard widget
Bro Kyveza just doesn't wanna die
LINC i gotta show you my new numbers of the week!
restive peak
I'll kill it when I kill it
rotund ginkgo
Uh I think 1950 Elo?
warm crag
Uh I think 1950 Elo?
noob
rotund ginkgo
Correct