yea youll have to type champions spear on the top line
#fury
dark frost
Just put #showtooltip Champion’s Spear
orchid sparrow
hi guys
rare storm
worked
rare storm
damage wise?
orchid sparrow
i put put the details and wish you guys can help me to find the problems
muted tulip
crushing blow usually #1-2 in damage for me
heavy dock
are we going full single target for rasha N now?
rare storm
thunderous roar in 2nd place is surprise
placid elm
Does anyone know if reflecting anima ejection in Mists does friendly fire damage when it explodes?
hardy cargo
yes
jovial coral
yea
golden hare
yea
polar violet
Fury slayer still the way for mythics over arms? Not seeing much updates to guides since the nerfs
sand crest
am I cooked?
vale dove
haha
vague fern
I heard warriors are getting nerfed again, is this true? 😂
lament hinge
yes
nocturne dragon
well the nerfed is not come yet to live but in PTR yes
clever path
Blizzard can’t stand us being happy
nocturne dragon
Blizzard can’t stand us being happy
I wonder why is this the case? why they can't see us happy just a bit?
lament hinge
well we aint happy even if there were no nerfs coming
sour abyss
Yeah devs have been watching Riku, Revvez and Boomie pad on adds in RWF so now we get to suffer for it. Even though immediately post kill Max jumps into the dam breakdown and shows both fury warriors as dead last on boss damage
clever path
If they don’t buff our single target decently well we are entirely cooked
sand crest
I saw logs of fury warrs parsing 99 and other specs on the kill parsing 80 and doing more dmg on sikran/nexus princess
sullen dove
no way
fury doesnt do single target damage
😱
means literally nothing, and 99 to 80 isnt evne that bad
whats rly funny are the ss's of like a purple parsing class doing less dps than a grey/green parsing class
sand crest
top 20% and top 1% is close?
sullen dove
thats when shits ACTUALLY fucked
fury is like the bottom st spec
we do not do st
plain and simple
warm crag
am I cooked?
ye delete tghe character now
oak shuttle
i just done a +8 mist with my friends
more or less the same for me. i mean i habe crusahibg blows on nr2 ov my dps but i cant geht them to nr one... i do ~ 1.1dps in 8+ dont know how to geht more dmg (i have 613 gs)
sullen dove
anyone playing fury in those 2 bosses is effectively trolling and should play arms
you play fury for infinite add dmg while retaining 98% of their st dmg
sand crest
ye delete tghe character now
doing that now
pale lava
we do not do st
iirc arms is 5% better than fury in ST
elder ruin
is authority of the depths suposed to be top weapon enchant still? everything is simming higher for me. Is something buggy with how raidbots sims it?
pale lava
which isn't a huge difference but still a pretty chunky one
sullen dove
yer
pale lava
at least that's what my sims told me
sullen dove
yea idk what the top values are anymore i would guess its a bit more than 5% diff
clever path
anyone playing fury in those 2 bosses is effectively trolling and should play ar...
Yes please let me convince my raid to give me two sets of gear.
sullen dove
correctly statted for arms vs fury
pale lava
but arms feels giga bland to play
orchid iron
arms is awful to play
sullen dove
yea i mean couple weeks from now everyone is 630 minimum dont rly need to worry about damage checks on bosses anymore
pale lava
slayer arms in ST is "okaish"
sand crest
playing something you're good at > playing the "better spec"
sullen dove
would still be better for your raid if you can play arms well
orchid iron
nothing i wanna do more than channel shit as a warrior
sullen dove
but its doable anyway
pale lava
it lacks flavor
spare steppe
Fury’s purpose is handle all aoe situations so every can go st
pale lava
I mean if you need ur warriors to go arms to kill kyveza
then your guild is just not good enough
clever path
I mean I’m not gonna ask for fury to be really good single target. But in the state it’s in. It’s just unhealthy for the class to have it that low
pale lava
I mean I’m not gonna ask for fury to be really good single target. But in the s...
that's why the aura nerf was a trash decision
I was happy with fury being really good in burst aoe and decent in ST
sour abyss
anyone playing fury in those 2 bosses is effectively trolling and should play ar...
Why should we have to change specs? Why can't we just get our damage normalized?
sand crest
Fury’s purpose is handle all aoe situations so every can go st
my guild went all aoe on rashanan so I could parse ST since the change x)
sullen dove
because then fury aoe will get nerfed???
pale lava
fury ST was ok before the aura nerf
sullen dove
like fury's entire thing (supposedly) is being one of the best cleave specs for retaining their amount of st
arms is still pretty good at that just doesnt have as much aoe and loses a lot more st to get it
like if youre asking for fury to do what its able to do and still have same st damage as arms
ur just asking to kill arms
lol
pale lava
arms is also squishier
sand crest
one thing fury seems pretty good at to me though is doing ST dmg in aoe talents, in m+ im often top dps on bosses
pale lava
as fury you can actually stay alive for a long time without assistance
sand crest
seems like most specs loose more st than us speccing aoe
pale lava
yesterday I healed myself for ~15m total hp on the last boss in arakara
clever path
like if youre asking for fury to do what its able to do and still have same st d...
Literally why I said “im not asking for fury to be good at st” I just don’t want it to be so abysmally bad it’s actually trolling to play it in some content
pale lava
I don't even need spot healing with the poison on me
sullen dove
yea i mean obviously it'd be nice if fury wasnt complete bottom of the barrel st
who wouldnt wish to do more damage
but in the literally only 2 fights in the raid where thats a problem
sour abyss
there is no reason they have to do the same st damage
Why not? What's wrong with class diversity? If both specs can do the same numbers, then it comes down to play style and preference.
sullen dove
and ppl are bellyachin over it
u can sitll play fury
it is still broken on 6/8 bosses in the raid
and more than fine in m+
sullen dove
Why not? What's wrong with class diversity? If both specs can do the same numb...
how is it class diversity if they do the same damage
pale lava
and more than fine in m+
this is turbo cap
sour abyss
and more than fine in m+
Not once that target capping comes in. We're already well behind ret and frost
elder ruin
could anyone explain why authority of the depths sims so low for me for weapon enchants?
pale lava
you probably played with bad players
because no way you're winning overalls in M+ as fury
sullen dove
pale lava
we're just decent in M+
sullen dove
fury dooming insane
pale lava
other specs do more
sour abyss
Fury WILL be dead in M+ if that shit goes live. We're currently bordering on irrelevance in keys
sullen dove
theres like 5-6 specs better than us maybe
vale dove
iirc arms is 5% better than fury in ST
5% you sure?
pale lava
it's not dooming it's fact
clever path
I mean even archi has said that the nerf coming up should have a single target boost to even it out. And I have to say I agree. Three nerfs in a row before people actually start normalizing damage across the board was insane for blizz to do
pale lava
5% you sure?
in my sims yes, in your case it might differ, with my current gear it was a 5% diff
pale lava
theres like 5-6 specs better than us maybe
maybe?
lament hinge
theres like 5-6 specs better than us maybe
like 9-10 better specs
vale sphinx
Hey dudes, whats the opinion on uproar for ovinax? worthwhile, or bait?
sullen dove
oh mein gyatt
vale dove
arms is simming like 50-75k more than me in sims so close enough
more like 7-8% more for me atm
pale lava
more like 7-8% more for me atm
damn
vale dove
obv my gear is also more weighted for Fury too
vale dove
if i went crit/haste on crafted gear and some other pieces etc can see it being 10% ahead pretty ez
but I am pretty sure we get Fury ST Buffs on PTR right....
right?
sullen dove
sour abyss
Fury chat when specs have strengths and weaknesses
Our only strength is getting pruned. This is the problem
clever path
Best? lol not for long
lament hinge
best aoe for 4 seconds
sour abyss
Wdym my class that has the best aoe in the raid doesn’t also pipe st
Do you raid or M+?
bronze elm
I'm looking at top fury chads on wlogs, and seeing most of them have crafted the vambraces for the embellishment, but not all? Seeing some belts, shoes, I'm wondering, is the reason why they chose those instead of bracers simply cause of the secondary stat upgrade?
pale lava
Wdym my class that has the best aoe in the raid doesn’t also pipe st
?
you're either not reading everything
sullen dove
I'm looking at top fury chads on wlogs, and seeing most of them have crafted the...
belt/bracer/shoe all same stat budget psure
dense brook
what aoe are u guys talking about that shit is gone
pale lava
or you're intentionally not including everything to make your "point"
sour abyss
I'm looking at top fury chads on wlogs, and seeing most of them have crafted the...
My sims actually have duskthread/weapon grip better than the nerub combo. Math is weird sometimes
pale lava
what aoe are u guys talking about that shit is gone
wdym I'm top dps in the first 4 seconds in an M+ pull
teal pine
Doomers dooming way too hard
teal pine
Autocorrect man…
pale lava
keep coping
sullen dove
keep fotm rerolling
dense brook
no one asked to be best
pale lava
no one complained about not being #1
sullen dove
(it wont matter)
dense brook
we're literally dogshit rn
pale lava
but keep talking non sense
bronze elm
belt/bracer/shoe all same stat budget psure
well, I'm seeing that belts and feet have more secondary stat on them, but I meant could the reason be that the previous gear they had in the slot had shitty secondary stats, like crit?
pale lava
(it wont matter)
I've been playing only havoc and arms/fury since legion what are you talking about
sour abyss
Not being top amongst your peers is fine. Getting clobbered by a ret paladin 10 ilevel under you is not
clever path
I literally just look at numbers. Calling that dooming is such a cope
sullen dove
Not being top amongst your peers is fine. Getting clobbered by a ret paladin 10...
you are just not as good as the ret paladin if thats happening
dense brook
braindamage to think we're close to dogshit
its braindmg to think we are fine
pale lava
Not being top amongst your peers is fine. Getting clobbered by a ret paladin 10...
this but apparently we're just dooming
pale lava
you are just not as good as the ret paladin if thats happening
HAHAHAHHAHAH
lament hinge
they just press divine storm skilled player
sour abyss
you are just not as good as the ret paladin if thats happening
Sustained aoe on no longer than 1 min cd's is a contributor
dense brook
yep critcake is the worst warrior
sullen dove
qrva is the best ret in the world
dense brook
confirmed
pale lava
man such trash takes
and crit is one of the best warriors hello?
what are you talking about
verbal rivet
they just press divine storm skilled player
Make Dawnlight not applicable by Divine Storm and ret discord implodes.
pale lava
this man is actually dissing crit
sour abyss
Swordish is a dev apologist who's offered to be the whipping post for the day. Let 'em hear it
pale lava
gg
nocturne dragon
what are you talking about
pale lava
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898695696482305/1289961905544...
gg
I hope Crit finds his peace and happiness
he's a better man than us
we stay here and suffer while he's off in vacation in Bahamas
sullen dove
sure am
dense elbow
sullen dove
apparently
lament hinge
sword obviously best warrior
dense elbow
Why you attacking crit today?
sullen dove
nowaying
sullen dove
pale lava
what did crit say about it
pale lava
^
dense brook
exactly
sullen dove
he did say "this was as close as i would get" i suppose, so its really up to the reader for "how much further behind other ones were"
dense elbow
Like, when the gap was as small as possible?
sullen dove
but like
dense brook
its all mentioned in the video
sour abyss
That Qrva was 6-7 ilevel behind him at the time
pale lava
he said that overall was the one time he managed to get as close as possible to Qrva
dense brook
this is as close as he got to him
sullen dove
ye got me
dense brook
probably because qrva messed up
pale lava
keep trolling bro
dense elbow
Thought you were attacking crit :v
pale lava
That Qrva was 6-7 ilevel behind him at the time
this
tidal kindle
I mean if you need ur warriors to go arms to kill kyveza
Liquid and echo are not good enough
pale lava
Liquid and echo are not good enough
I should've mentioned heroic, my bad there
dapper goblet
pale lava
mythic is a different story of course
sullen dove
also had an aug so plenty of variability in who got buffed when like its not a 1:1 comparison, sure ret's better overall but you have to be an actual 2 year old to say fury is unplayable
dense elbow
Either way; this is my counterpoint
verbal rivet
🪤
sullen dove
?? you guys justifying with random details screenshots and doomposting about "this spec is so much stronger than me"
no you just beans
sullen dove
LINKS??
dense elbow
Reply link
pale lava
facts > your feelings
dense elbow
look at it
sullen dove
OHMY GOD
FURY BEAT FDK
IN AK EY??
WTF??/
FDK WASNT PLAYING???
AFK???
SADFHBISADBFSUAHDFA
lament hinge
mad
sullen dove
clowns
sullen dove
im breathin just fine lmao
verbal rivet
Bro hasn’t seen grass in weeks.
sullen dove
keep the dooming to minimal levels
pale lava
have mercy on that keyboard
pale lava
u mashed it too hard
willow cradle
?? you guys justifying with random details screenshots and doomposting about "th...
No I'm dooming cause the coin flip landed on doom today and not hopium
pale lava
my class does trash ST now
dooming
sullen dove
No I'm dooming cause the coin flip landed on doom today and not hopium
happens
dense brook
the funny thing is ur using current examples for something thats coming ina month and saying its fine
dense elbow
We all got doomium days
sullen dove
st was brought up for like 3 minutes
dense brook
the gap will become larger
sullen dove
on 2 bosses
dense brook
its absulotely not fking fine
sullen dove
then it got shifted to "we are dogshit in m+"
willow cradle
My perspective is very accurate
dense elbow
I see OF nerf, I gas up the doomium
pale lava
brother we're only good at killings ads that have heroic dungeons levels of hp
after that we fall off
tidal kindle
Fury now very good raid, good m+
Fury post proposed .5 patch changes- sad in m+, still good in raid - wont affect 95% of playerbase since they dont do keys high enough to matter
fury post .5 patch changes if TRoar dot splits damage after target cap like OF does - okay we are dead
Any disagree?
dense brook
idc what other ppl say ive been saying this shit hurts m+ more than raid
tidal kindle
Any truers?
dense elbow
Who cares about raid
pale lava
Fury now very good raid, good m+
Fury post proposed .5 patch changes- sad in m+...
I have trouble reading that ngl
teal pine
Kinda true
dense elbow
And it will affect 99% of M+ers - smh
pale lava
idc what other ppl say ive been saying this shit hurts m+ more than raid
idc what others say as long as the facts are there 
verbal rivet
I just want to pug keys and vibe. Being rejected for 3 hours straight is not bueno.
dense elbow
Maybe not sword tho, as he pulling 5 mobs at a time
dense brook
idc what others say as long as the facts are there <:keks:936231610850897992>
thats a fact tho
sullen dove
ayup
tidal kindle
And it will affect 99% of M+ers - smh
It'll affect all m+ers but most dont do keys at a high enough level to where the damage diff makes or breaks key timer
dense elbow
That is the stupidest take I heard
sour abyss
There's your Mythic Queen kill boss dam only
tidal kindle
Unless ofc, the OF target cap/dot split code gets implemented into roar as well
sullen dove
the class that does 1.6m overall because they're saving cooldowns for addsets (THAT THE SPEC IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR) is bottom st damage no way 😱
guess what remove 1 or even 2 warriors
the boss doesnt die
its that simple
dense elbow
Get out of your own asses ppl, stop balancing around the 1%, when the 99% suffer
covert void
Get out of your own asses ppl, stop balancing around the 1%, when the 99% suffer
literally
dense brook
There's your Mythic Queen kill boss dam only
raid is about killing bosses but ay its fine if we are the absolute worst at it Clueless
sour abyss
vs the overall
sullen dove
whining about st damage when nobody can do the burst aoe fury can do on the fight it matters on
sullen dove
if the fury's goal was to do st damage they would not be playing fury
they would go arms
pale lava
raid is about killing bosses but ay its fine if we are the absolute worst at it ...
our ST was decent
nerfed
tidal kindle
in lower keys, dps matter more - cause players do less
In lower keys a 3% overall damage difference on one class (that isnt brought for it's insane overall potential to begin with) will have lower impact than deaths, route, proper CD allocation on trash etc
tidal kindle
3% is out of my ass
verbal rivet
I want to be able to top a raid DPS chart, and not have 4 people complain about Fury damage padding.
dense brook
u see thats the thing if ur taking away burst ur supposed to compensate and fix the dmg profile instead of completely making the spec grbg
pale lava
u see thats the thing if ur taking away burst ur supposed to compensate and fix ...
pls stop making sense
you're killing his braincells
sullen dove
cut fury's burst by 10% its still 50% stronger than the next best class
you guys are actually inept
dense elbow
Dont remove burst at all, you guys frikkin tripping
pale lava
cut fury's burst by 10% its still 50% stronger than the next best class
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
nice cap
havoc currently bursts harder than us
teal pine
Sees pic of fury doing the most damage on last mythic boss. Calls it garbage
sullen dove
thats why it was the havocs cooldowns on those adds
teal pine
dense brook
thats why it was the havocs cooldowns on those adds
but ur trolling right
dense elbow
I love that M+ camp and Raider camp always but heads
dense brook
the cds line for fury they dotn for havoc
tidal kindle
Fury doesn't have the best burst per se (biggest number), just the fastest burst
pale lava
the cds line for fury they dotn for havoc
nah don't tell him this, you'll blow his mind
sullen dove
and havocs cds do not kill those adds faster than fury cds
tidal kindle
Which makes it oppressive in raid
sullen dove
nah don't tell him this, you'll blow his mind
you keep doin this bit and its just not landing lol
dense elbow
Which makes it oppressive in raid
Who cares
tidal kindle
You press 2 gcds and do all your damage
dapper goblet
pale lava
you keep doin this bit and its just not landing lol
what's not landing is your attempt at trolling
dense elbow
noone care
pale lava
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sullen dove
yea im trolling lol
verbal rivet
You press 2 gcds and do all your damage
They get on Snapchat for 40 seconds and then do burst again
buoyant salmon
havocs meta burst is like 30 seconds
sullen dove
keep being garbage in +10s and complain about your class being the reason why you are losing to other specs
buoyant salmon
keep winning overalls in keys with mediocre players
brother i could be playing with jesus and ghandi and ppl here will still say shit fdk shit enhance
pale lava
keep being garbage in +10s and complain about your class being the reason why yo...
you don't even know me yet u call me garbage
classic
sullen dove
im not saying i never lose but it does not matter
tidal kindle
Multiple times for past few days
sullen dove
you don't even know me yet u call me garbage
and you dont know who i play with? lol
dense elbow
<a:Hwat:1001113264811409528>
pale lava
and you dont know who i play with? lol
if u win against a fdk, mage, rogue, enha or ret
they are bad
tidal kindle
buoyant salmon
guys fury sometimes loses in overall to enhance and frost (2 best specs in m+)
fury sucks
buoyant salmon
if u win against a fdk, mage, rogue, enha or ret
yes ayako is very bad
dense elbow
Fury lose to ret
dense elbow
REEEEEEEEE
pale lava
dense elbow
I dont give a fuck about the rest
sullen dove
pale lava
keep sperging
dense elbow
but lose to pinkboii?
sullen dove
this fdk 2mil overall is bad
dense elbow
Hell naw
sullen dove
sorry
eternal sundial
sullen dove
hooooly
dense elbow
I am so glad I gave you that 
sullen dove
ARMS BEST SPEC??
eternal sundial
(this is before any boss its fake who gives a shit)
buoyant salmon
the craziest thing is that we are naming SIX SPECS
sullen dove
oh no
tidal kindle
eternal sundial
4 ppl group
i dont show 5th
sullen dove
its over
heavy flax
i think they should actually nerf us more, who's with me
sullen dove
yeah
eternal sundial
Why would you keep hiding yourself?
i have it set to always show me so i dont see the tank when i heal
last sparrow
nerf us more so i have more of an excuse to reroll
sullen dove
the doomers arent mad enough
dapper goblet
i think they should actually nerf us more, who's with me
agree soooo hard
dapper goblet
sullen dove
1.8m dps on silken court
ionic plaza
point is that fury ST is rly bad, If they nerf the current niche that fury has, whats left? nerfed aoe and bad st, then were good at nothing.
heavy flax
make odyn's fury single target, get rid of shockwave and make thunderous roar our aoe stun. problem solved
sullen dove
what adds...
dense elbow
1.8m dps on silken court
Ret would do 1.9
sullen dove
die in 2 seconds..
eternal sundial
die shaman player
shaman is so fucking funny man
ionic plaza
i Would gladly trade the AOE nerfs for buffs all around to our single dmg attacks
dapper goblet
dense elbow
That is kinda impressive - my guess, em buff usages go burrr
verbal rivet
Im so motivated to get better at Fury to only be….5th best in my raid while my Ret is watching Friends on the other monitor.
sullen dove
lmao yweah
sullen dove
if youre losing to ret in raid you gotta figure somethin out
and again "5 specs are a little better than us in m+ oh no...."
ionic plaza
i forsee a 20% damage reduciton to slayer strike next kek
sullen dove
imagine being any of the other 20 specs under us
sullen dove
they actually get to complain
verbal rivet
and again "5 specs are a little better than us in m+ oh no...."
Say that to the people making groups.
sullen dove
just have more io and item level than the other guy
vague fern
well the nerfed is not come yet to live but in PTR yes
What nerf is it?
nocturne dragon
verbal rivet
just have more io and item level than the other guy
Don’t bring trickle down economics into M+
sullen dove
unless they're some M+ sheep tierlist godcomp following drone that cant think 2 seconds for themselves and goes "MUST HAVE BIS COMP FOR WEEKLY +10"
grand umbra
you don't even know me yet u call me garbage
You suck
sullen dove
if you have the good rap sheet
grand umbra
Fury is goated rn.
sullen dove
you should get in
grand umbra
You don’t know the thane cheese
sullen dove
and worst comes to worst feel free to make your own group and invite all the "godcomp" specs yourself
dense elbow
unless they're some M+ sheep tierlist godcomp following drone that cant think 2 ...
lets be real, that is a large portion of the casuals. Guess they are mainly around the 4-8 area atm
sullen dove
see how well it goes
grand umbra
and worst comes to worst feel free to make your own group and invite all the "go...
All pugs already do this
vale dove
Fury defo aint goated atm
sullen dove
most ppl are terrified to make their own group cuz its on them if the key goes bad based on the ppl they invite
vale dove
Frost DK is goated
sullen dove
but if you invite all the best specs surely you cant go wrong
vale dove
they slap
dense elbow
All I know is: I get invited, with my 2.3k rio and 411 gear - you can get invited too lads
ripe dew
and worst comes to worst feel free to make your own group and invite all the "go...
because good specs really wants to play with the worst ones 🤡
grand umbra
Funnest contemporary wow experience
dense elbow
I gotten to 418 today 😊
sullen dove
because good specs really wants to play with the worst ones 🤡
yeah im sure people are looking at the specs of a group leader for a key they want to join and are solely dictating if they should hop in based on the leaders spec
verbal rivet
Everyone does?
vale dove
am 620 and 2450io and took me like 10-15mins to get in to a 10 earlier today
but thats the same for every dps spec tbh
its not a warrior only thing
twilit narwhal
guys, is there a way to get a sim from Boomie and Riku from Liquid? I wanna see how much the really well optimized characters sim for
grand umbra
Fury does suck anyway
sullen dove
you have to be actually addled in the head if you join a group and say "oh thats a feral druid? im out of here"
grand umbra
No one wants to play a dead dps class
sullen dove
there are some people like this sure, but the amount has to be so small
verbal rivet
you have to be actually addled in the head if you join a group and say "oh thats...
You’re saying you don’t judge random Boomkin rn?
static rock
Does anyone know if the sims you can run on bloodmallet are accurate?
sullen dove
boomkin fucking cranks aoe
grand umbra
Meanwhile mage meta for the 8th year in a row
manic spindle
Current state, but they're nerfing fury and arms hard next patch with AOE caps? Man we're really getting over-nerfed for being good for a minute
rugged forge
sullen dove
🔥
tidal kindle
you have to be actually addled in the head if you join a group and say "oh thats...
I join a group
dense elbow
Current state, but they're nerfing fury and arms hard next patch with AOE caps? ...
it is time to get new data, that one is 2 weeks old
buoyant salmon
“being good for a minute” (great all of dragonflight)
sullen dove
classic
grand umbra
Fury deserves no invites
hard widget
Im still with the fury warrior...
Frostygarms?
dense elbow
Garms run away when he sees 2nd fury
grand umbra
No one wants some low dps non meta class
dense elbow
dont wanna be gapped
ripe dew
yeah im sure people are looking at the specs of a group leader for a key they wa...
ye they do, but keep being clueless
wanton mirage
Guys
Does bladestorm cancel the last boss Arakara pull?
vale dove
I wouldn't read in to the PTR changes yet anyway
grand umbra
Only mages and rogues deserve invites
sullen dove
ye they do, but keep being clueless
lol ok
grand umbra
Guys
Does bladestorm cancel the last boss Arakara pull?
Yeah
vale dove
they have to do more war changes if they are adding target caps surely
dense elbow
https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255
grand umbra
dont wanna be gapped
How about gaped
buoyant salmon
?
dapper goblet
as a semi op class (not actually op) i dont ever look at the group comp
dense elbow
The joke is I'm the fury warr and I cant escape myself
Joke is you good fury warrior, and wouldnt be scared of a 2nd Fwarrior
static rock
Literally they just need to add some ST ability damage and it would fix most of our damage problem
dense elbow
tidal kindle
Joke is you good fury warrior, and wouldnt be scared of a 2nd Fwarrior
I am mid at best
verbal rivet
DK or DH reroll????
tidal kindle
dense elbow
Nah that would make me trashtiergarbodrainwater
chrome plover
Guys
Does bladestorm cancel the last boss Arakara pull?
no
nocturne dragon
DK or DH reroll????
DK! the Frosty one
sullen dove
as a semi op class (not actually op) i dont ever look at the group comp <:seriou...
not op he says
(best class in the game)
hardy cargo
real
dapper goblet
fury topping last boss of the raid
grand umbra
They shouldn’t have nerfed us
dapper goblet
fury better
grand umbra
But ppl shouldn’t be surprised
sullen dove
nerf more
grand umbra
We are always nerfed in s1 after an op beta
wanton mirage
I got 2 diff answers. I need 3rd. Person
dull sierra
I got 2 diff answers. I need 3rd. Person
no
wanton mirage
Thank u
hardy cargo
I got 2 diff answers. I need 3rd. Person
no, though you can charge to adds to get out of it
dense elbow
Raid is done tho
dense elbow
Winner is decided
chrome plover
fury better
+1
hardy cargo
m+ is the mini game
u are mini game noob
dense elbow
it is done
static rock
Literally next raid unless they do something, we will back to horrible for raid if there's any meaningful ST boss fights
sullen dove
if only there was another spec on the same class known for doing more single target damage
dense elbow
You guys are just coping, cause you all lost raid, and so you say it aint over- even if it is, smh
sullen dove
and you can comfortable learn to swap back and forth for whats best for the group
ionic bone
Wasn't i supposed to get a material from ahead of the curve to upgrade my weapon to 636 ?
sullen dove
Wasn't i supposed to get a material from ahead of the curve to upgrade my weapon...
u needed to have done the campaign and get a quest to kill ansurek which gives you enchanted runed crest which only ups to 619
to craft 636 you have to farm the 90 gildeds yourself
no other way
sullen dove
token comes in mail
verbal rivet
Also can only get it once, between all 3 ways to get it
old cloud
Guys why does my shadow-binding ritual knife sim BETTER than my Sacbrood trinket in literally every scenario
wtf
teal pine
knife is good
dense elbow
cause it is prob better?
hardy cargo
where is that trinket even from
teal pine
delves
old cloud
DELVED
nocturne dragon
from delves I think
dense elbow
delves map
hardy cargo
yeah gg not getting that xdd
dense elbow
yep
ionic bone
anyone with enchanting that can make the enchanted gilded
sour abyss
i wanted to play fury because I liked bursting packs and doing AOE damage
Play ret
lime sedge
I dont like pally :(
hardy cargo
are u on tichondrius us by chance?
old cloud
everywhere i look, it says sacbrood is miles ahead of ritual knife though
hardy cargo
anyone with enchanting that can make the enchanted gilded
^(my previous message)
sour abyss
I dont like pally :(
none of us do 😦
old cloud
and no top warriors are using it either
sullen dove
i mean sacbrood can drop at myth track
so max ilvl it'll be better
but i think equal ilvl its pretty much the same
if you get champ/hero track knife
polar roost
sullen dove
fine to use for a while
grand umbra
Devs hate us
sullen dove
and i think sacbrood is more consistently good, cause all things considered the negative effect of knife i dont think is that bad, but if it potentially procs in super crucial times and you lose your best stat on a important damage burn maybe it could feel bad
but i think firedup was using the knife on their kill
grand umbra
They need to focus on making the game fun not harassing women I fear
sullen dove
at least thats what wcl gear page said
write that down write that down
good strats
grand umbra
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372> write that down write that down
Blizzard dev when they see a new and improved technique in stealing breast milk from female co workers
sullen dove
parsing 100 
vital wyvern
can we still get charges claymore if someone makes it for us?
hardy cargo
I only parse 100 in m plus damage for key level
nocturne dragon
anyone with enchanting that can make the enchanted gilded
pretty much everyone that is quite common recipe, but you might want to state which server
wanton mirage
TIL Night elf/tauren warrior with Tailoring and Engineering can interact with all Dungeons buffs
clever path
They need to consolidate our health talent with an actual talent we use. Having such a low health pool compared to usual is pain
sullen dove
whats the usual
already like 8% more health than other classes without baselien stam buff cause second 2hander has a shit ton
jump like 500k hp from arms to fury
heady saffron
only class of same ilvl with more hp is warlock isnt it?
heady saffron
oh yah think they get some big hp
sullen dove
i think ret has a teeny bit? or does it not have any idk
but its rly not a lot that have more health
hunters actually recently got some stam talent buff
clever path
I mean warlock has way too much hp
sullen dove
but fury def one of the like top 5 biggest health pool dps
if not top 3
not to mention some insane defensives
versed harness
Hey all question. With the four piece does it change our rotation at all? Or still use BT when available or do we use RB to get the damage increase of 20%?
clever path
Yeah being top 5 means nothing with the dif is over a mil
clever path
Hey all question. With the four piece does it change our rotation at all? Or sti...
We don’t really play around our set
sullen dove
there is no shot diff comes out to a mil
maybe it might at like 639 ilvl
when we have like 8mil hp and lock have 9mil
versed harness
We don’t really play around our set
Sweet I didn't think we did but wasn't 100% sure
torpid sand
Hey all question. With the four piece does it change our rotation at all? Or sti...
Our set is terrible and our rotation does not change at all
clever path
Sweet I didn't think we did but wasn't 100% sure
Yeah to be honest our set is bad this time so it doesn’t change much
sullen dove
1% 4set.. 
dense elbow
S1 tierset is always bad
nocturne dragon
Azzy is right, I think warrior's set (Arms/Fury/Prot) is just bonus for doing the current thing, better not think about it.
torpid sand
dw it will be 0.5% in s2
dense elbow
why we doomin?
torpid sand
S1 tierset is always bad
Nah, S1 in DF was decent
dense elbow
you joking with me, ye?
clever path
Nah, S1 in DF was decent
I can’t tell if you’re serious
sullen dove
wym why didnt the fdk carry
hardy cargo
stonevault is fucking hard for pugs this week
torpid sand
hardy cargo
idk we go full hallway SV 10 press lust seconds later tank ded and we all die 
sullen dove
s1 set became decent after fury got changed to not overcap 5000000 rage spamming crushing blow and execute was a dead button
hardy cargo
ive bricked like 5 of these now today and havent gotten past the first boss
worldly gulch
About to craft weapon - does axe, sword, etc. matter? Or whatever my fancy is?
worldly gulch
Thank you
hardy cargo
About to craft weapon - does axe, sword, etc. matter? Or whatever my fancy is?
id look into whats cheapest but thats it
paper blade
hi all. trying fury cause i play prot in keys but want to raid. do i want to macro avatar and recklessness into the same key? or no
sullen dove
hi all. trying fury cause i play prot in keys but want to raid. do i want to m...
for the most part you can, though youd want to put recklessness first in the macro
think u get like way more rage that way
static rock
^
hardy cargo
you want to put reck into avatar, but not avatar into recklessness if you do
grand umbra
I miss s3 fury
I miss s4 BFA fury
paper blade
ok cool thanks
sullen dove
the only time you ideally dont is on pull of a single target fury spec fight, but theres only 2 of those in the raid and dont rly have to worry about small optimization
grand umbra
And s2 SL fury
static rock
you want reck first cause avatar casts OF with the talents, meaning the OF will have the Reck buff on it
grand umbra
Every other fury sucks
sullen dove
well, i think reck applies fast enough in that instant global that most if not all of the odyns is affected by reck
hidden stirrup
What about Legion S4 Fury?
paper blade
it cast what?
sullen dove
but i just think you get like double the rage from hitting that macro if reck first
like doubles the rage from avatar cast and somethin somethin
grand umbra
What about Legion S4 Fury?
Didn’t play tbh
sullen dove
it cast what?
avatar casts odyns fury
hidden stirrup
One word: Execute
grand umbra
Played legion but not enough to m+
hardy cargo
Didn’t play tbh
100% uptime during execute or else gg u do no dam
rose tinted goggles
ionic bone
are my stats cursed ?
static rock
Dammit you beat me to it
hidden stirrup
I have the vid saved for good reason
dense elbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk
I watch, I smile 
static rock
are my stats cursed ?
seems aight, what are you going for?
static rock
maybe less haste and more mastery, but sims should tell you what to do
ionic bone
sims are saying mastery verse crit
hidden stirrup
25% tends to be a good haste cap for early xpac
static rock
sims are saying mastery verse crit
yeah, haste is in a good spot, if not too much
hidden stirrup
I default to 20% crit then slam mastery as much as I can with what's left
dense elbow
28-31% haste or go home
static rock
I got the haste necklace so my haste is through the roof, but yeah, 25% is good
hidden stirrup
28-31% haste or go home
gotta get everything on cd then go for a snack while waiting
ionic bone
wait i was with flask
dense elbow
Just go Frenzied, 31% haste, and AM
wide scaffold
is there a way to remove roots from city of threads for fury other than avatar and bladestorm?
dense elbow
BS go burrr
hidden stirrup
BS done in .7 seconds
ionic bone
these are my stats without flask
narrow tide
Any youtubers u guys reccomend where i can learn rotations better?
dense elbow
For rotations, not really. The best option is wowhead prio list and play the game
narrow tide
the prio list just confuses me
paper blade
why does my weakaura change the icon for bloodthirst?
those are a lot bigger than i thouight lmao
eager thorn
because you're pressing rampage
dense elbow
shows you the next BT is bloodbath
hidden stirrup
Your opening rotation tends to be the most important, after that it's just hitting what's off cd or glowing
eager thorn
which changed bloodthirst into bloodbath
teal pine
is there a way to remove roots from city of threads for fury other than avatar a...
charge with the slayer talent removes roots
narrow tide
Your opening rotation tends to be the most important, after that it's just hitti...
yeah i mostly try to go Rampage then bloodbath then rampage. after my opening
teal pine
waht is bloodbath
reckless abandon is the talent
wide scaffold
charge with the slayer talent removes roots
thanks
dry hawk
whats teh difference in keys?
paper blade
ah ok thanks!
hidden stirrup
yeah i mostly try to go Rampage then bloodbath then rampage. after my opening
That's how ya do it, never want to overcap on rage. As long as you can dump into mrampage as much as possible, you're golden
dense elbow
whats teh difference in keys?
Very minor, if noticable, from my experience. 1.4mill with, 1.4mill without
summer quail
whats teh difference in keys?
more st vs more aoe. powerful more aoe, frenzied more st
narrow tide
That's how ya do it, never want to overcap on rage. As long as you can dump into...
how about execute? When the opener is with bloodlust is feel like i stack it super fast. Is it worth to press after? or only when i need rage
manic spindle
Some youtuber said that the hero trait culling cyclone doesn't work for AOE?
And he runs the other one?
hidden stirrup
how about execute? When the opener is with bloodlust is feel like i stack it sup...
if it's available, use it. better to get it on cd since it's a rather long cooldown (in Fury terms)
teal pine
Some youtuber said that the hero trait culling cyclone doesn't work for AOE?
Its 20% split between everything it hits. Culling is the ST talent and Brutal finish is the aoe talent even though at first glance youd think its the other way around
hidden stirrup
prios might have changed since I last played, so check with WoWhead for better info and watch streams if you can
wooden tide
How are people simming M+? I’ve been told dungeon slice is not good for us.
dense elbow
1t 5m, 5t 5min and/or 8t 5min - then you kind of want to value prio dam above AoE.
Is the usual strat
paper blade
is impending victory worth putting on my bars?
wooden tide
Thanks Funky
gilded pawn
Imagine not using it as your highest prio rage dump
dense elbow
Imagine not using the healing button to heal
lavish breach
Hmmm I always will bb / cb even if capped on rage before pressing rampage again
Because wasting a cb cast sucks
gilded pawn
If you cap you cb but not bb
hardy cargo
in aoe u bb tho I think
mortal shoal
i dont play a healer why would i need to heal
worldly gulch
Do we stack same weapon enchants or different?
chrome plover
Do we stack same weapon enchants or different?
stacking same is fine
wintry snow
anyone have a video recommendation to help dial in my rotation
tardy lark
yeah i was the only aoe man as well
unreal onyx
are mythic boe's a thing yet?
warm crag
they drop but theyre not AHable
warm crag
very relevant to just farm trash right now
tardy lark
yeah but they are bop
unreal onyx
I hope now with rwf over they will be boe
warm crag
why do u want boes tho
dense sedge
guys in raid are u popping av and reck at the same time I have been popping reck then charging then av
tardy lark
its a very weirdly statted in ring
unreal onyx
why do u want boes tho
to buy
chrome plover
im actually no longer getting oneshot by spiders
me neither i now have an assigned bop
weird, it sims similarly to sacbrood+transmitter for me
(all 626)
seems really good
warm crag
weird, it sims similarly to sacbrood+transmitter for me
needs to be 626 to overtake at least in my sims
tender seal
im actually no longer getting oneshot by spiders
#feels
chrome plover
needs to be 626 to overtake at least in my sims
yeah beats sac but not transmitter
warm crag
ya fury bis is 2 on use
chrome plover
💀
tardy lark
#feels
real
i just died twice in a pull to swirlies under boss model
im actually hard tilted
lilac basin
fuck 2 on use
dry hawk
AM in keys bad? wanted to see if a different build did more dmg
tender seal
best boss they have ever made
gonna disable crab-mode... MAYBE i can do a LITTLE something to avoid standing next to big spidors when they spawn 😄
torpid sand
i hate boralus so much
tender seal
im actually hard tilted
u are close to kill i think 😄 keep cool
should be impossible to tilt with that music on too
lilac basin
i hate boralus so much
did u have one of the trash randomly start to run all over the map and sometimes into th water ?
chrome plover
ye seems ok
tidal kindle
i just died twice in a pull to swirlies under boss model
Hehe xdd
Very cool design
Visual difficulty!
fickle bluff
i just died twice in a pull to swirlies under boss model
thank god they killed dust at the end of DF
tardy lark
u are close to kill i think 😄 keep cool
yeah we're 1 egg break off this fight being pretty easy
tardy lark
Visual difficulty!
its the most tilting thing actually lol
tardy lark
thank god they killed dust at the end of DF
cant have raszageth be a fairy dragon
young swan
love it when the only outplay for your death is hindsight
good shit
fuck ass slug
boss needs to get shot in the head
chrome plover
real
tender seal
this thing.. should remove the web thing on brood no?
i just dont have a timer for the CD on it
young swan
it does
covert blaze
boss needs to get shot in the head
breathe
young swan
bad boss
mellow pagoda
guys
fickle bluff
i just dont have a timer for the CD on it
there is one you get a debuff until its usable again
mellow pagoda
can u clear webs with spellreflect on ulgrax
young swan
can u clear webs with spellreflect on ulgrax
just BS
mellow pagoda
bs?
covert blaze
dn too
tidal kindle
its the most tilting thing actually lol
Meanwhile ranged payphoning with nameplates off
Peak fight design
tardy lark
this thing.. should remove the web thing on brood no?
always hold a charge for breaking that
can leap out into bad shit and insta charge cuz no one will be there
tardy lark
Meanwhile ranged payphoning with nameplates off
yeah and mnost have pre assigned egg to break lol
warm crag
can leap out into bad shit and insta charge cuz no one will be there
is tehre a guarantee we cant get it twice in a row?
tender seal
can leap out into bad shit and insta charge cuz no one will be there
gonna be doin that
ty
i have so much movespeed that i rarely need to use charge 😄
verbal dragon
i just got aotc how com,e i dont have the mark
young swan
^
young swan
can only get it from 1 source
tardy lark
is tehre a guarantee we cant get it twice in a row?
i havent had it happen, but i actually dont know
verbal dragon
can i only get tier or can i get a weapon
tidal kindle
yeah and mnost have pre assigned egg to break lol
Our boomie perma preassigned purple so he just plants there with starfall
"How melee eat 30 swirls bro? I have 15 fps and get hit by maybe 5 and I dont even play with nameplates on"
Worse privilege disparity than halondrus
young swan
its actually so hard to not get hit by swirls
tardy lark
Our boomie perma preassigned purple so he just plants there with starfall
"How m...
yeah ranged dying to swirls is illegal with the low amount of visual clutter for them
meager void
This season is going hard-Darwin on all melee specs tbh
buoyant salmon
Our boomie perma preassigned purple so he just plants there with starfall
"How m...
brood is so ass bro there is so much shit happening in melee
ontop of me dropping to 5 fps
every add set
its just unplayable i have to highroll only getting hit by 2
i just pop enraged regen and stand still during bladestorm to heal
clever belfry
every add set
turn off details buddy
meager void
If there's a pixel, there's a way.
Unfair as fuck, but true.
Cuz ranged are playing tower defense this season.
tidal kindle
Yah the mage with 8 blinks or the boomie with starfall cast n move or the wl with more mobility than a rogue
buoyant salmon
turn off details buddy
how will i know if im valuable as a human
tidal kindle
Tower defense
clever belfry
anyone crying about fps with details on needs god
make sure u turn off autolog on BW and ERT too
warm crag
i havent had it happen, but i actually dont know
i havent had 2 in a row
young swan
any solution that requires disabling half ur UI is not a real solution
blizzard optimize the game challenge
clever belfry
i mean it runs okay without addons
🤷♂️
so its not really the games fault in this regard is it
(i am not suggesting u turn off elvui, without plugging in alternatives btw)
cause thats actually useful
while details, frankly, is not
young swan
the issue is shit like disabling nameplates
im fine with disabling details, cause yeah it just doesnt really matter
meager void
Remember to turn on monitor, that helps with fps.
clever belfry
i even turned off my elvui raidframes and use regular blizzard frames again
that helped a bunch
but i need logging on, and i keep details and nameplates on
nameplates off is mega fake on this fight, nice kicks u got there buddy
nameplates off was fair on tindral ngl
meager void
Loggin shouldnt be a problem on an ssd
clever belfry
its
not about that
at all
it only buffer flushes after ENCOUNTER_END event now anyway.
the advanced Combat logging is a strain on your clients processing
and any non advanced CL is fucking useless and gets rejected by wclogs -> turn it off unless youre actually logging.
meager void
Oh, ok. Gotcha. I get it.
dry hawk
if you go AM in a key what would you move around? its prolly a dps loss anyway
clever belfry
stop clogging ur UI with dogshit *
sullen dove
"oh no its a new patch does anyone have the elvui update i cant play the game until mickey mouse addon fixed again"
clever belfry
if you go AM in a key what would you move around? its prolly a dps loss anyway
u just press more recks and bladestorms
bold plank
is the writhing armor banding the embeliish we use on wrists craft!?
clever belfry
doesnt have to be wrists
but yes that is the embelish you can use if you use darkmoon sigil on wep
sullen dove
waist/boots same stats psure
clever belfry
and cape
sullen dove
i thought cape was lower
clever belfry
(not sure if banding goes on cape)
chrome plover
i did wristS :)
sullen dove
clever belfry
i think
the proc condition is bugged
it just insta procs whenever i go into combat
bold plank
i did darmoon sigil ascension on wep
sullen dove
oh wait guess im lying belt isnt included there
bold plank
so the writhing armor banding would b good for me
sullen dove
belt has more stats than bracer/cloak