fury

[frank robin]

warriors are last on the wish list lol

[atomic fog]

about to alt f4

[cedar depot]

ret is kinda dumping on warrior honestly

more damage, freedom, sac, bop, blinding light, brez, aoe stun

[frank robin]

we offer nothing. barely any utility, no brez, no lust. Ret AOE is better than ours after the nerf. Legit no reason to take anything outside prot warrior

[cedar depot]

most i can pull out of mountain thane is 1.4m overall

[weary sail]

Why would you bring fury lol when you can bring frost dk, ret, rogue, enh shaman, DH etc

[cedar depot]

rets doing like 1.8 lmao

[frank robin]

more than that

my ret pally is 601, fury war is 613 and the dps is not comparable

[glad plover]

as a warrior, most important skill to learn for M+ is how to make good group for your own key, you are not getting invited into any, stop trying. Every season of Dragonflight I had over 100 done runs, all my own keys, season 3 I reached 3400 and was never invited into appropriate level of keys that I mind you already did.

[indigo arch]

It's a good thing fury is getting another aura nerf and target caps changed, fury is out of control and has great utility

[teal pine]

the self reports

holyy

[frank robin]

thing is, it should be balanced

this aint balanced lol

[cedar depot]

honestly if warrior got a mass reflect it would be kinda desirable, that + rally could do alot

[frank robin]

something, anything

[ornate gust]

Just give us anything

[frank robin]

the simple fact we don't have a lust battle shout is crazy

[cedar depot]

I feel like mass reflect isn't even asking that much either

[indigo arch]

Give back banners

Bring back skull banner, make it give party crit damage for x seconds

or smth

[frank robin]

its a dead class outside prot and once they nerf that, no one will want warriors

[indigo arch]

or yknow, just revert the nerfs so far since all warr is invited for is damage anyway

[weary sail]

What 615s warriors are competing with

[tardy lark]

love having to leap out and use skull banner on the fire mage/boomkins cd timers 🙂

[frank robin]

nope cant have warriors outperforms ret pallies

[indigo arch]

it certainly ain't for bshout in an m+, nor shockwave/bolt/rally

[glad plover]

not gonna happen, reason why we got nerfed is the fact that other classes cried rivers during heroic week.

[indigo arch]

Yea true, ret needs to do fury damage or more, whilst being able to do everything

yea that intense heroic pve content

[cedar depot]

rets are far above fury damage lol

[indigo arch]

shut fury down

stop the presses

[cedar depot]

heroic leap should aoe stun , change my mind

[indigo arch]

yea they'd obv have to make banners have giga range

to prevent it being like the aug buff where you have to head to egypt to someone

[glad plover]

and I told then, after the first nerf that I have a feeling once content becomes hard warrior will drop in usability, and I was right, if you are doing 10, you are very much not bringing warrior, why would you when you can bring paladin or shaman.

[indigo arch]

stops aren't fury's issue, it's group buffs and/or debuffs that increase throughput (AND DAMAGE)

[torpid sand]

At the end of the day, Warriors are playing their own game 100% when it comes to M+

Maybe one day Blizzard will give us lust or anything like that

[cedar depot]

if by

[indigo arch]

Lust won't even fix it, aug and mage exist

[cedar depot]

playing my 'own game' you mean running grim batol forever, then yes

[indigo arch]

That won't shift fury into meta

[glad plover]

I honestly just want lust or CR so I can make my own groups with more options.

[honest sundial]

scaling isnt linear 11 to 12, do u know what affix u need to face at 12 that you don't at 11?

[glad plover]

I am almost never invitind DH or rogue because I cant make a good group with such classes while playing warrior.

[eager thorn]

ive had better runs with non meta classes than meta ones

[indigo arch]

being hard locked to inviting shaman or aug is pretty cringe though ngl

[cedar depot]

feels like you dont have ilvl and high rating, keys arent happening for warrior. GL on alts

[eager thorn]

much rather have some main on a non meta class than some blue parsing fotm player

[glad plover]

Yeah aug, shaman, mage or hunter. you must have one

[restive granite]

i never invite aug or mage to my groups

tired of the 30-40% ebonmight uptime andies or the mages that turbodie and solo deplete the key

[glad plover]

then you need DK, druid or paladin.

[restive granite]

dk i always try to invite

[glad plover]

for cr

[frank robin]

like give us something to compete

thats all we want

[indigo arch]

wonder how long til blizzard realizes they missed a few spots and nerf ret/muti also

[meager void]

Yes rando furysplainer, Ive known since beta.

[indigo arch]

can't leave the status quo, ranged must be the only thing in high keys

[glad plover]

basically if you play warrior DH, Monk, Priest, Rogue are off the table, even when in theory you are making very good groups with em because of your raid buff.

[restive granite]

rogue off the table?

[deft sail]

how did you guys get your 636 weapon crafted?

[glad plover]

Does not have BL or CR bring rogue and you lose one important utility.

[restive granite]

what keys are you doing

[meager void]

Yes, these opinions sound very informed too

[honest sundial]

Heh ok

[indigo arch]

just hoping that in s2 blizz wakes up

[meager void]

And not at all like excuses on poor personal perfomance

[restive granite]

i swear that mentality that you have to play the godcomp is seen more in the 6-10 range than in the 11+

[indigo arch]

they've done it before, bfa s1 to s2 for example, huge ups for fury then, or shadowlands s1 to s2

[torpid sand]

I just don't invite ele shamans to do Siege anymore

[queen linden]

Fairely easy to do as fury now

[torpid sand]

Nothing against you bros but yall aggroed the first boss using chain lightning far too many times already

[meager void]

She is right.

[glad plover]

AS I said highest I was was 3400, now I am at 10s, but philosophy did not change much, I love to play with rogues but sometimes its just way too much of a problem to fit group together nicely, as class without CR or BL warrior is very much locked into specific party compositions. Yes you can use consumables but higher you go, less and less desirable such options become.

[indigo arch]

Can always invite rsham to get lust/skyfury, and then inv whatever

rshams are already pretty rad in keys anyway

stops/shear etc

[meager void]

This is just wrong lol

[glad plover]

What part is wrong? PUG mentality is as it is, if you do not bring BR or CR or if class is not outright busted, you are not getting invited. simple as that

[restive granite]

am i a she?

[meager void]

They*

[meager void]

Yup, simple as that. And ofc there's nothing else to do than cry at this unjust world

[lusty hedge]

for the 4 piece bonus, is there buff name for the 2 stack increase to blood thirst

[glad plover]

Why are you assuming I am crying? This so far was very constructive conversation, I gave my opinions and pointed my experiences.

[restive granite]

you dont track anything from the tier set, it jsut play in naturally into your rotation

[indigo arch]

No point tracking the tier set even if it did something, it's woefully undertuned lmao

[thin cliff]

lol the 4pc is so bad it barely beats out the lost mastery from wearing it

[honest sundial]

I actually never played beta, but since u did u surely realised that Xal'atath's Guile wasn't actually working properly till week before release (health modifier wasn't applied to mobs)?

[meager void]

Ok. You are turning a multicasual issue into a simplified "pug mentality problem" to easily place blame outside of any personal agency. Its that and not just crying.

[meager void]

Yes Shirley, thank you for the extra explanation. Got any more back there?

[honest sundial]

Yes my friend don't take your personal experience with 10s when u think about high keys

[meager void]

Yall start these argumentative gymnastics instead of simply hitting the target dummies to hone your blade.

[olive wraith]

I mean target dummies can only take you so far

[granite tiger]

anyone here know why alchemical flask is better that mastery flask in raid bot ? i cant really understand it cause more mastery will gives us more damage done why we should take some random stats

[olive wraith]

Because we like all stats

And a it’s a lot more stat

[meager void]

Far enough considering all the bright ideas that appear here.

[slim grotto]

What lv is your brann and what spec was he please?

[queen linden]

The damage Zekvir does now is negligible. I think I picked up a healing pot 2-3 times the entire fight. Sucks that they fixed the spell reflect bug in p2, but it's not too bad.

[pliant jackal]

I haven't gotten a single delvers bounty

its insane

[granite tiger]

but when gives us more stats will decreace two other random stats right ? and when decreace our mastery we dont lose more damage ?

[slim grotto]

And what’s your ilv in fury @queen linden

[queen linden]

615

[slim grotto]

Ok ez, ty

[eager thorn]

What talents did u use

[past pivot]

I’ve gotten one in like 57 total delves across all my max toons.

[eager thorn]

Ive had 3 bounty maps and only 1 gave anything good

[eager thorn]

Ty

[glad plover]

Issue is not "pug mentality" issue is lack of utility, "pug mentality" aka warriors not being desirable in pug groups if not ouright busted or seriously overgeared is simply symptome of that, yes if you play warrior you have to adapt to that and play in way that will make that less of a issue such as networking or making groups. Sill you can not just ignore the fact that for a warrior PUGs are basically unusable tool if you are not making group for your own key.

[spare otter]

what are good pug dps? I cba with this class anymore waiting over an hour for a +2 like direct me to the nearest rope please.

[clever path]

dh

boomie

unholy dk

arcane mage

[spare otter]

is dh still movement build?

[clever path]

yes

and they slap hard af

[spare otter]

ahh dont really like that ngl

[clever path]

not as bad as old momentum

[pliant jackal]

whats this thing with people saying no utility?

[clever path]

you just fel rush once during your burst window

[pliant jackal]

warrior has utility

[spare otter]

man all those classes are like

anti fun

i swear

[clever path]

frost dk also viable

[spare otter]

excluding dh

[clever path]

ret pally is good

[pliant jackal]

literally warrior is like the tankiest dps class ever

[spare otter]

nah i hate dk they move so slow

[clever path]

nah that goes to dks

unholy dk prob tankiest dps spec

[pliant jackal]

how?

[clever path]

ams

lichborne

rune power passive that makes you take less damage based on runes and runic power

icebound

and other passives

[glad plover]

ret pally plays the same as fury warrior, more or less and has same if not more damage, in addition to his bonkers toolkit for 5 player parties. IF you want to reroll from warrior ret paly is best option.

[pliant jackal]

we have a no cd defensive

[clever path]

that neuters your damage

dh also passively has like 12% damage reduction

[spare otter]

ret pally i dont really enjoy either

[clever path]

thoguh 5% of it is a stagger

[pliant jackal]

a lot of that is long cds

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qLzSVkqj6cWF959zCZyVpm lets goooo

[pliant jackal]

we have defensive stance and spell reflect on really short cds

[clever path]

ok but nothing warrior has beats ams or amz

can straight up ignore mechs with those

[pliant jackal]

probably not

[clever path]

also death strike go brrr

[glad plover]

Immunity is much more important utility to rally in M+, not to mention how important CR is.

[pliant jackal]

I'm saying that warrior has no utility is stupid

sure each class or spec might have something that is considered better but that is wow.

[rotund ginkgo]

fury nerf?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[pliant jackal]

the most annoying thing about the balancing is that we are getting nerfed based on only raid.

[rotund ginkgo]

priest was 613 ilvl with a 577 trinket

[pliant jackal]

our rallying cry got nerfed because of raid

our aoe burst got nerfed because of raid

[elder vessel]

They will always base nerfs on raid this early

[pliant jackal]

yea of course

[elder vessel]

It just sucks for the mythic plus gamers

[pliant jackal]

yea

[elder vessel]

I don’t raid anymore so it’s aids but what can you do

[pliant jackal]

these death timers are brutal tho

[glad plover]

I do not think rally is bad utility, I just think its usability on 3 min cd, in content where high damage burst happen on average of 45sec, is minimal, its good to bring, since we have nothing else but nobody who made M+ group had in mind to bring rally, its just not that good in dungeons. If it was on 1.5 min cd, when we are potentially talking about exceptional utility.

[verbal rivet]

Right. The 10% health totally saves someone as often as a Pali bubble.

[pliant jackal]

I don't think rally is that great either

thats why i didn't really mention rally

[tulip swallow]

it's on par with mage barrier but mage also brings all their other shit

[verbal rivet]

With as hard as stuff hits where good external use matters, it’s so insignificant….like It was 3M damage over my health, not 3.5M

[glad plover]

I use rally to lower pressure on a healer for some bosses with high aoe damage, they are often welcome but again its not going to be "life saving"

[pliant jackal]

yea i use rally to help the healer

[verbal rivet]

AMZ actually making you pretty much immortal on high magic phases. It’s mechanic altering

[pliant jackal]

not to save people

[verbal rivet]

I think it helps.

[pliant jackal]

it used to save people

[verbal rivet]

It’s helpful as an add on for Spirit Link.

[slim grotto]

Every class may be better and have more util, but none are gigachads who can dual wield 2Hs
/thread

[verbal rivet]

But that’s 99.75% Spirit link being godlike

[glad plover]

you can say that warrior survivability is utility that is going to increase general defenses of a group in dungeon, and you would be right, problem is, people prefer much more direct utility like immunities, dispels, CR, BL, even stuff like shroud.

[verbal rivet]

I feel like Devotion Aura does more then rallying cry, and that feels bad.

[verbal rivet]

The amount of pulls that get so much easier by pulling them backwards with a cloak skip is actually stupid.

[meager void]

I need a tanky melee = warrior.

[pliant jackal]

only one dps and healer needs that utility

in a group normally

[verbal rivet]

Warrior doesn’t help healers survive any mechanics. At least not in a way that is meaningful enough to differentiate from other melee specs. Rallying Cry isn’t even close to a Darkness or AMZ

[pliant jackal]

us taking less damage is helping the healer

[verbal rivet]

Paladins

3% Passive DR for the party

[cerulean hornet]

Is there a haste breakpoint for fury? Fury overall gear says crafted verse/mastery but I'm seeing people still running mastery/haste.

[verbal rivet]

Bubble, Hands, Brez, and a better ST stun then Stormbolt.

[glad plover]

I agree, immunity helps the healer more tho 😄

[verbal rivet]

Bubble can save a different person as well.

[pliant jackal]

Yea pallies are good

what do you want me to say lol

[glad plover]

Its just, as a warrior you compete for that spot in M+, plate melee spec.

[verbal rivet]

With some of the most utility packed specs in the game.

And that spot isn’t even guaranteed….less melee is just better

3 ranged comps are easy to run.

[pliant jackal]

this is a really good season for melees

[buoyant salmon]

their st stun is worse

aoe stops worse

utility doesnt matter nearly as much as ppl think

its a wow community issue

[verbal rivet]

Is HoJ actually worse than Storm Bolt now lmao????

[buoyant salmon]

storm bolt is less than half the cd

[tulip swallow]

sure if you do 40% more damage than anyone else like survival did in shadowlands s3 you can get by without utility

but it is broadly important

[buoyant salmon]

hoj is longer but id rather have a shorter cd shorther duration stop

than longer length longer duration

[verbal rivet]

Depends on the fight, but sure

[keen kindle]

Damage over utili

[buoyant salmon]

i agree there are situations hoj could be better

[keen kindle]

Damage is bis

[buoyant salmon]

doesnt even have to be 40%

if you do 5% more damage than the next best spec youre in every top key

[keen kindle]

Can you do damage and live? perfect spec

[buoyant salmon]

unless something is egregiously wrong with you living

usually you can have 1 person in the group that struggles to live without external help

[verbal rivet]

I just don’t want to have to reroll my war to prot to do a +4

[pliant jackal]

same reason nobody is playing aug evokers

[verbal rivet]

That’s about it lmao

[pliant jackal]

damage > utility

[buoyant salmon]

ppl are llaying aug

its just early season so noone knows the meta fully

[pliant jackal]

yea only the top level players

[buoyant salmon]

we dont know if we lose on damage or survival in highest keys

[pliant jackal]

im saying normies aren't

[tulip swallow]

Part of that is just the design issue with aug

if the rest of the team isn't reliable you don't want aug there

and in random groups who knows what the squad is gonna be like

[pliant jackal]

i mean the best aug player is doing 13s right now

[verbal rivet]

Aug a planned team luxury

Pugging as Aug would be cancer

[pliant jackal]

it worked fine in DF

shit tons of people wanted auggies in DF in pugs

[verbal rivet]

Aug doesn’t help your mage do Ara Kara last boss

Lots of dungeons have IQ checks rn

[spare otter]

it might be a reroll angle

[pliant jackal]

a buff is coming its a matter of when lol

this season is so good for melees tho

[rich flame]

A buff will probably come in 12.0 and get nerfed again in 12.0.5

[pliant jackal]

I wish they would rework the tier set

[tulip swallow]

tier lists are a scam, just look at overall damage numbers

[pliant jackal]

i meant tier set

lol

my b

[tulip swallow]

yeah that's not happening

it's been useless since the beta

[pliant jackal]

they have buffed tier sets before during xpac

was it shadowlands i think

the shards was pretty much a tier set

[rich flame]

They should make tier give 20% damage to bladestorm and give odyns fury hit 8 targets up from 5 🤥

[tulip swallow]

If they could get away with it I think they would have preferred having no set bonuses tbh, they're universally shit

It's just that people really like getting tier gear

[rich flame]

I really want them to just compensate aoe damage for single target, and make mountain thane more viable

[pliant jackal]

how would they buff ST without buffing AOE tho

cause of whirlwind

[tired dragon]

White swing damage increased by 900%

[quaint stag]

Was similar in s1 df with tier set bonuses being lackluster with new play styles and talents

[pliant jackal]

lol

[ancient rain]

[pliant jackal]

was it bloodthrist crit?

dont remember

[thick fossil]

Tier is a bit of a scam. They're too scared to make tier extremely potent, cause they think it's too much of a gatekept character power.

[pliant jackal]

its so easy to get tier set now tho

[thick fossil]

Yup

I'm in heroic 4 pc without ever killing a heroic boss.

[granite dune]

Bloodthirst is so garbanzo they should buff that. Or make cold steel hot blood hit even harder

[near wing]

How?

[granite dune]

Delve m+ and catalyst

[pliant jackal]

vault and cata

[thick fossil]

KSM, Delves, Catalyst, and vault

[near wing]

What’s KSM?

[pliant jackal]

I can't get a delvers bounty is super annoying

[thick fossil]

Keystone master

2k IO

[pliant jackal]

2k io

[near wing]

Ah thank you

Clearly I’m not quite there yet…

[pliant jackal]

man I can't get into grim

[little saffron]

when yall sim gear for raid are yall doing patchwerk with 1 boss?

[pliant jackal]

and its my most important dungeon

[pliant jackal]

yea and 5 boss for aoe

[little saffron]

but realistically there isnt a aoe boss in raid majority of adds die extremely quick so is it even worse doing 5 boss?

usually i sim for like 5mins

so stating 5boss for 5 mins just wont make sense right?

[pliant jackal]

its just a number we use to show if gear is better lol

don't think too deep about it

[cold silo]

It’s dumb that the tier set buffs bloodthirst when the raidbot simulator says it’s the last thing in the rotation before whirlwind

[pliant jackal]

depends on how we do our aoe rotation

[little saffron]

lol what makes it even worse is blood mallet is all sorts messed up with fury

[pliant jackal]

does tier set buff empowered bloodthrist?

[little saffron]

u mean bloodbath?

[pliant jackal]

yea

[little saffron]

well usually when it states blood thirst it counts for blood bath so yes

[pliant jackal]

some people do bloodbath execute aoe

to proc reap the storm

[little saffron]

yeah i do it usually ill do like a whirlwind obv im already enraged then into ragingblow raging blow then bloodbath into a rampage then whirlwind and repeat

sometimes it changes depending if raging blow resets etc.

[pliant jackal]

no not like that

[little saffron]

then wdym?

[sudden tusk]

@restive peak equinox Twitter post LMAO

[pliant jackal]

BB prio to fish for reap procs

in aoe

[clever path]

how good is swarmlords authority

i think it could slap

[past pivot]

Tank trinket.

[clever path]

i know but im reading the effect

and we have a lot of haste

and its only a 1M cd

[past pivot]

I tried. Slap it doesn’t.

[restive peak]

Ye that's giga old and from a troll key, he's moody with me today

🙂

[clever path]

pity

[sudden tusk]

Yeah I saw it and I was like aint no way he's RTing this hahaa

[restive peak]

Gets in moods lol

[vague heart]

sstupid question but why do so many use stonevault trinket when i sim it its never good on various bosses aswell

[honest sundial]

maybe that's the only thing they have 😐

[pliant jackal]

are you trink shaming

[vague heart]

i mean if it is worth it ill grind it but i dont see it having emitter and sac was just curious if that mastery on demand is somehow worth it on some fights

[azure blade]

hey, how much do you sims in dongeon slice ? i'm 615 ilvl and i only sims 1M

[honest sundial]

I dropped my first trinket from m+ after around 80 keys

Had to pay for arakara and shard

[vague heart]

unlucky

[honest sundial]

very

[vague heart]

maybe i shouldnt tell you how often i went to ara kara for that trinket

[honest sundial]

1?

[vague heart]

almost 2

[honest sundial]

almost?

[vague heart]

i mean your guess

its 2

[honest sundial]

oh i see

[vague heart]

mybe need this one ,

[honest sundial]

lucky

[vague heart]

i assumed it drops often since everybody can use it

[compact knot]

i did 3 arakaras on my mage and got 3 edicts in a row

major L

[vague heart]

i may got the trinket fast but im not getting any rings after over 80 dungeon runs

[buoyant salmon]

@restive peak get reposted

[wary ermine]

hello guys, i was wondering how do you guys track deep thirst ( the raging blow reset of the tier set ) is there any weak aura or something ? im using luxthos weak aura and it doesnt show up ( maybe im blind lol )

[left perch]

Choco are you a colossus boy

Also are your dad xeos play rogue wonka

[sudden tusk]

@sullen dove Season 2 announcement poggies

[past pivot]

Don’t sim DS.

[buoyant salmon]

yes

[buoyant salmon]

maybe

[clever path]

what would you want to track that

why* zug brain

[coarse nest]

Whats a good pick me up after 8 hours of farming grim batol and not getting a mark

[summer quail]

farming stonevault instead

[left perch]

Ok gonna dm you after rwf

[summer quail]

technically a minor dps gain if you do(i cba tho personally)

[wary ermine]

i was wondering maybe i should use it when it hits 2 stacks and not overcapping

[dense elbow]

This was a first of BS actually doing decent neat

[azure blade]

why ? Is there an other one, who is better to represent mm+ ?

[dense elbow]

The usual thing is to do 1t 5min sims, to minmax prio dam. Then do 5t or 8t to figure out if there is a huge DPS loss on AoE

[azure blade]

your using patchwerk or target dummy ?

[dense elbow]

patchwerk

[azure blade]

ty, i'll try that
I was asking because my friends was siming a lot more than me with less ilvl

[dense elbow]

Never worry about what other sim, just worry about the best options for your gear

(or just dont sim at all, and just have fun)

[meager void]

burn the witch.

[dense elbow]

[heavy dock]

can anyone tell me if the beam mechanic from the platform adds in ansurek is really reflectable? just read it is but how would that work since its not targered right?

[azure blade]

i would like to just have fun and play warrior, but when i see my overall damage in dongeon i need to understand if i'm just bad or if my class deal just less damage than other. If i'm not playing with my friends i cant realy find a group. And with my damage we can't realy push high key

[dense elbow]

If you play with equal skilled players, you should sit just barely off top. Rets, enh, fdks, so on will likely beat you - but it will just barely

[azure blade]

well i'm more like 150-200k behind

or more

[meager void]

out of how much on what dungeon and what key level

[compact flint]

Is there a way to dispel the poison from Zekvir on ?? difficulty while playing fury? I can do all the dodging and stuff but the DoTs hurt.

[dense elbow]

Hard to know what is going wrong, but just focus on sending BS/OF well; to always spend CB and BB; to always cleave your abilities

after that, it is all polish learned by playing

[azure blade]

ara kara, mist key lvl 7-8

i cant really beat 1M orevall

[meager void]

everyone is looking for sac (me too)

this is an arakara 9 and I can def play much better.

[azure blade]

damn

[meager void]

I think people like crit and the fam are doing like 1.5-1.7M tho

[meager void]

Im not good in any sense, but I aint bad either.
Playing bad nets me less than 1M on the same key.

[chrome relic]

fury good

[rich flame]

That seems like the most fury can put out, I've seen rets hit over 2B

[meager void]

and it all revolves around this

[azure blade]

i need to train more, and have a better understanding of my rotation

[open prairie]

dwarf

[oak bear]

u just charge it off

as slayer

[rich flame]

Does bitter immunity get rid of it?

[open prairie]

doesnt bran also dispel you

[oak bear]

bran is an idiot and will let it sit for 5s sometimes

[rich flame]

Branns too busy finding "a bit of gold!" (5g)

[open prairie]

he does ok damage

might be because mine is 49

though

[compact flint]

Not reliable if the egg is in between his legs sometimes

[oak bear]

i just did it yesterday it was reliable for me, can also bladestorm it off

[summer quail]

you're prob doing cds wrong

[open prairie]

imagine if he could find profane tinderboxes

[rich flame]

Man... That'll be the day

[compact flint]

Could just let him heal and interrupt the poison by taking 3% at a time

Or if there was a way for stormbolt to work that would be cool

[rich flame]

Is your kick not up in time?

[sullen dove]

of wha

[compact flint]

He casts like instantly per

[sullen dove]

:3?

[open prairie]

ngl i just play prot

and forget he does things

[compact flint]

Does the spec have a way to interrupt both poison and healing?

[open prairie]

no you just dont care about the poison

[cold silo]

Here is the rotation:

Warrior rotation

charge
Reck pot trinkets bloodfury avatar troar

rampage->bladestorm->stormbolt
odyns fury
crushing blow, ramp, crushing blow, bloodbath
(if 2+ enemies, then: whirl, 4 attacks, repeat)
rampage
crushing blow
bloodbath
execute
raging blow
filler: bloodthirst, whirlwind

Discord fucked up the formatting but that is the priority from high at top to low at bottom

[open prairie]

why is stormbolt there

[cyan epoch]

casted during bs

[cold silo]

best time to cast it is during bs

[open prairie]

it does worthwhile damage?

xd

[pearl sequoia]

nope

[ornate gust]

I don’t use it.. just 1 less keybind

[rich flame]

20k+ without really losing a gcd

[cold silo]

Not much but you always have someone you can be interrupting their cast with

[open prairie]

i generally keep mine

if a caster is freecasting in uganda

tbh

[dry hawk]

do we even play around our 4P?

[clever path]

u more or less naturally do it with rotation

[rich flame]

That is a good situation to use it but on bosses and cc immune targets it's just more damage during the BS

[ornate gust]

Just ignore it

[summer quail]

it might as well not exist

[open prairie]

the 4p is what

1%?

[cold silo]

I have 4 piece and the simulator says to just use the rotation I posted there

[dry hawk]

that shits a joke then

[summer quail]

think it's less than 1%. like 0.7% or something like that

[open prairie]

yeah its a case of

greater than 0

so might as well

[dry hawk]

so the crafted weapon is what made my dps skyrocket 75k?

[open prairie]

havent seen many “interesting” tier bonuses this season

[rich flame]

I think the most reliable part of the 4 piece is the bloodthirst increasing rampages damage since it's just in the rotation

[open prairie]

most of them are generic % gains

why did you upgrade offhand

[summer quail]

I like the windwalker monk one. makes tiger palm actually do damage

[open prairie]

also wtf is that first trinket

[dry hawk]

its a piece of shit

[open prairie]

bro is playing the tank trinket from timewalking

play something from delves

💀

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-sleepy-sleep-tired-gif-17581546106730598678

[gleaming siren]

It's Frieren Friday

[oblique trail]

Offhands don't cost crests for Fury if you already got a higher weapon

[gleaming siren]

Hello Benzai

[oblique trail]

Also that weapon likely dropped at 619 if it's the HC silken court wep

hello schmidi king

[open prairie]

they dont cost crests for any spec

[dry hawk]

I got like 4 of em lol

[open prairie]

if you do it correctly

😆

[oblique trail]

Thought 1hander people still had to spend crests on offhands

no?

[rich flame]

Even with whatever the slayer talent is that if raging blows resets its CD the damage of your next raging blow is increased by 30%, is it still not worth? Every raging blow you use also increases rampages damage by 20% from the other fury talent (idk talent names I'm away from PC)

[open prairie]

shhh

i am ethical player

i would never do something unethical

[summer quail]

is what still not worth?

[dry hawk]

its a nice strength stat stick lol

[rich flame]

Sry the tier bonus.

[open prairie]

Though you know whats sick

when you get a delve map

[mint abyss]

Is Simcraft broken rn?

[sage notch]

If enraged and in single target:
What is the priority between rampage, Crushing blow, Bloodbath, raging blow?

[open prairie]

and the chest is….abyssal trap

[dry hawk]

never seen one

[summer quail]

i mean it is a dps gain, so it is worth it. just extremely small dps gain

[open prairie]

yeah warrior has only seen one

i got 2 warbound vet pieces from green delve chests

in the same run

[rich flame]

Fair. I remember hearing that warriors were gonna go back to having more prio on bloodthirst but raging blow is just still on top

[dry hawk]

tempted to see if any of these warbound trinkets are better

[modest condor]

yeah we were, then they gave raging blow like 5 multipliers and nerfed bloodthirst and we were back to prioritising raging blow again

[summer quail]

yeah we were more bloodthirst oriented on beta, but then they nerfed bloodthirst by alot. so we're raging blow oriented now

[open prairie]

what is that trinket that looks like a legion shard

also is all of that warbound

[dry hawk]

yes

[modest condor]

L + ratio

[summer quail]

YOU COPIED ME

[open prairie]

I have like one warbound purple

its ocarina

xdddd

[sage notch]

Anyone got the priority between rampage, Crushing blow, Bloodbath, raging blow for me?

[dry hawk]

II've only been getting warbound shit outta things right now

[open prairie]

i mostly only get warbound blues

[dry hawk]

M+ / delves you name it

[open prairie]

when i fly by rares

[summer quail]

what's also funny i feel like they nerfed bt coz of unhinged cleaving. then they removed that too

[open prairie]

harvester’s edict is likely better

[rich flame]

Yeah you get like 60% from the slayer talents or some shit

[open prairie]

the shadowmoon crystal having no dps active is a bit uhh….

[rich flame]

So if raging blow resets its CD, is it still better to use the enhanced bloodthirst before using the refreshed raging blow charge?

[open prairie]

i saw someone equip a champ warbound kyveza fist

[forest owl]

do we try to fish for reap the storm procs, or always just follow rampage>cb>bb?

[open prairie]

on a warrior

and his offhand was a 2h

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rURZADxE5amAxFUsGoZNJz duuude the launcher is 12k 👀

[summer quail]

As in bloodbath when you say enhanced bloodthirst? coz ye that does have higher prio than raging blow

but lower than crushing blow

[compact flint]

So apparently the charge to remove the poison debuff from Zekvir is almost impossiible but... Zekvir stays aggroed and on your behind 24/7

[rich flame]

I see I see

[dry hawk]

how is something that yeets 2500 strength a 12k damage boost

[open prairie]

because your other trinket has no damage

[terse yacht]

Should i be saving Bladestorm for avatar cd?

[dry hawk]

I hoard to much

[modest condor]

oh god

[modest condor]

only if it's a couple seconds off

[dry hawk]

my warriors bags in Legion were so bad the entire personal bank was also full of gear

[stone apex]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sigh-monkey-gif-2049020038486032791

these nerfs got me like

[modest condor]

once an item gets replaced i'm getting rid of it

if i ever need something back i can just item restore it

[dry hawk]

my main issue is I dont know if we ever have a stat change

[trail bane]

Why is raidbots suggesting i replace my main stat gem and various colors for 6 of the same color?

[modest condor]

either you messed up something or it's better

[trail bane]

Are the main stat gems that bad

5 min, 1 target, all buffs

except pi

[modest condor]

link the sim

[trail bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tzdzFKtJHM9KzXaFk2BjoU

[modest condor]

looks like if you dont have "always use" and "only 4+ colors" ticked underneath the meta gem it will only sim sets of the same type of gem

[trail bane]

ill test that, thanks a bunch :)

Previously i was seeing it recommending a lot of the same gem but at least it kept the mainstat one, i saked here if there was some bug or anything i missed why it recomments combinations of the same gem but nobody knew. Glad to finally hear there is something i was missing :D

[torpid sand]

I finally got used to Treacherous

And damn, this trinket is busted when you learn how to use it well

Still annoying to use in the middle of a M+ fight

That has a lot of purple stuff

Like, all of Grim Batol

But the weak aura really helps

[wet barn]

I just got that trinket and don't know how to 'use it' other than opener and on CD

[torpid sand]

Use the WA and try to get used to it

It's the best advice I can give

[trail bane]

Basically, use it and complete the task before popping cds since you want it to buff odyns, roar and bladestorm

[wet barn]

Didn't know there was a WA for it. I'll give it a go.

[frail trout]

maybe an incredibly stupid choice but I've found I just use the movespeed gem instead since the dps gem sims as such a low increase anyway

[dense sedge]

I find khardos more consistant for m+

[torpid sand]

https://wago.io/jX4s-GYvb

[trail bane]

And ideally you will line it up so the task is completed when your cds become ready as to not lose time holding your cds

[wet barn]

Makes sense.

[torpid sand]

The collect orb and jump ones are easy to do

The stay on top of circle is ass

Very ass

Sometimes I can't even see the circle

[wet barn]

Do you have shard and or haste egg trinkets too?

[trail bane]

i found that using the mainstat gem and 4 colors give me a 2k dps increas compared to using 6 of the same gem

[torpid sand]

I gotta hunt shard and Sacbrood but no one invites my ass

[trail bane]

sure, thats like 0.2% dps but still

:D

[torpid sand]

I'm using Fang as my secondary DPS

It SUCKS

[wet barn]

Bro same... Pug life

[modest condor]

i also use movespeed gem over crit damage gem

[torpid sand]

Trinket*

[wet barn]

Im using two on use trinkets. Tretch and Madness

[trail bane]

is there any boss so far in the raid that you feel the extra ms gives you more uptime?

[modest condor]

at 4 types it's 0.6% crit damage increase, pretty weak

[torpid sand]

I want Mandate

But I feel I will only grab that in a random vault lol

[modest condor]

im not raiding this tier so idk, but i feel like movespeed is pretty universally useful

[trail bane]

It usually is, but i feel less so on warrior because we already have a lot of mobility. Im running ms gems on my priest and blood dk though

There its invaluable

[torpid sand]

Pugging has been a decent experience till heroic queen

[wet barn]

It's good, when an add is below 10% and it just deletes them. Give you a delete button every 60 sec

[torpid sand]

Nobody knows how to position in heroic queen

[compact flint]

💀

[modest condor]

brann not cooperating?

[compact flint]

Nope

[modest condor]

one of the most annoying ways to die

brann just not dispelling

[compact flint]

I been on Zekvir for 2 hours now

[modest condor]

oof

[compact flint]

And spent 50k in consumables too

[modest condor]

but why, it's not a dps check

[slim pollen]

Took me around 4-5 hours to finaly get him down 😛

[compact flint]

Its a dps check because you need to kill the egg before the spawn happens because the spider when spawned does 4 million damage to you. then you have to worry about healing or the Enfeebling Spittle that Zekvir does. You cant even tell how far to go with the cones he does cause the lines are not accurate yet. It's more or so if Brann is healing you well or not because i been taking in 30-45% health per hit and im 613 item level

[modest condor]

after the nerfs the eggs basically dont have a dps check anymore, you can legit kill them even with the worst frontal placement

play AM and only use cooldowns on the eggs = never have any trouble with them

[compact flint]

shrugs the eggs are doable but Zekvir has the COD aimbotting mods

[slim pollen]

I ended up running anger management just to get a little bit of extra CD off bladestorm to make sure i had it (and maybe reck) to do every egg. Then I saved what ever else like avatar/odyn's/charge to remove the dot when brann was being difficult.

Sometimes you'll be lucky with egg + debuff overlapping and bladestorm takes care of both

[compact flint]

Its just a matter of luck at this point and RNG like basically the luck of getting the headless horseman mount

[torpid sand]

i'm 614, i wonder if i can kill zekvir ?? without major issues

[compact flint]

The best health i got him to was 60.9%

(Might be my trinkets)

[slim pollen]

I did it with 613 or 614, don't remember exactly, got a few new pieces since

[compact flint]

Only trinkets i have right now

[sudden tusk]

i just saved CDs for dispelling

OF dispells it

Bladestorm dispells CD dispells it

Slayer charge talent dispells it

[amber shuttle]

what weapon enchants should i get for pvp? 2 radiant power or radiant power/depths?

[summer quail]

#pvp

[orchid dagger]

Radiant Depths x2

[timber brook]

Anyone know if theres a new spreadsheet out for spell reflect?

[oblique trail]

#dps-faq

[cyan turtle]

now sim as arms

[queen linden]

I did zekvir earlier today, 614ilvl as fury. Took me 11 pulls. Save all your CDs for the eggs. The only spell you interrupt is the heal. For the poison dot, bran dispels the first one, then after that, you just run out before he casts it then charge back in to remove it.

Use bran as a healer and you're good to go. Just grab a potion every now and then.

[trail bane]

wish i had 2 more sparks to do some arms T_T

[cyan turtle]

still havent used my sparks, thankfully.

but im planning to run the tank route since well dps is wat it is atm

[cyan turtle]

bruh do u guys do this on brood? just hold for small adds all the time

[hot mural]

anyone here good with weakauras?

for some reason my weak auras keep getting fucked up after a while

they just duplicate a bunch of stuff

like this, when i first got it a few days ago it wasnt anything like this

and then it got like this today when i logged on

[young swan]

never experienced that in my life

[azure lichen]

Delete is all and re import it

[pulsar quest]

On brood you time cds for adds yes

Because they need to die

Atleast on mythic

Heroic they should die pretty easily

[hot mural]

how its supposed to look

[cyan turtle]

no like.. ONLY for the parasites

[hot mural]

thats what i have been doing, but its gets annoying after the 5th time and counting

[pulsar quest]

I don’t really care about the parasites tbh, those get killed pretty easy if we group them

I mostly try to kill big spiders

[cyan turtle]

yeah, this guy holds his cds only for the parasites

[pulsar quest]

But there’s a lot of parasites so like you will pad on them quite a bit

[cyan turtle]

ive never seen bladestorm be so high on the dmg recount on someone

and then missing like 100m dmg on the boss

[dense elbow]

What worries me, is ramp above CB by such a margin

[pulsar quest]

I hold cds for basically every add set

But that’s just how the fight is

Like it’s not really holding tbh

It just lines up

[dense elbow]

Wait, he playing AM and holding

I respect that

[pulsar quest]

Oh he is playing am haha

I didn’t even think of that

[pulsar quest]

Can you link the log

[runic cypress]

I have about 20-25% on parasites

I hold it when like I know they coming but otherwise nah

[pulsar quest]

You should basically always pad on the parasites just because there’s so many of them tbh

[dense elbow]

Ain't pad if adds gotta die

[pulsar quest]

Well yeah

Pad is a loaded term I guess haha

[runic cypress]

Like when BS CD is ready but we're spawning parasites in 10 seconds I'll hold

[pulsar quest]

Yeah same

[eager thorn]

is it worth using gilded crests to upgrade hero items?

[runic cypress]

But otherwise nah I just blast storm even just on boas

[eager thorn]

assuming i have 2 crafted already ofc

[pulsar quest]

Depends on the item

What item is it

[runic cypress]

Warrior to BRRRRRRRR

[pulsar quest]

If it’s a really good heroic trinket then possibly

[eager thorn]

idk just general question cos i have no other use for them rn

[pearl sequoia]

probably weapons or trinket potentially, anything else i wouldnt

[pulsar quest]

Weapons or trinket are fine if you don’t think you’ll replace soon

[pearl sequoia]

id do the upgrading after vault

[dense elbow]

Don't upgrade weap

[spare flame]

afenar aura pack slaps hard

[eager thorn]

well im not replacing anything really unless i get from vault/raid and we havent killed 1st boss on mythic yet

[dense elbow]

You get weap for free when ya craft

[runic cypress]

They should really let us buy gilded crest with like 90 runes or so

[eager thorn]

they do im p sure

just not yet

[runic cypress]

But I mean like yet

[pearl sequoia]

you hvae to get the achievement or something

[runic cypress]

I'm only like a few items away from runed harbinger

[pulsar quest]

I only did my mad queens trinket

[eager thorn]

i inted some upgrading with runed so now i'll be 30 away from harbinger on reset

[cyan turtle]

yes but there are times where u can use bladestorm on other eggs not just parasite

[runic cypress]

Are you sure?

[summer quail]

what's runed harbinger?

[eager thorn]

crests

[pearl sequoia]

idk if its an achievement but whatever triggers the out using of the last tierr of runes

[pulsar quest]

Yeah I mean I usually have something for every add set tbh

[runic cypress]

It's when you have like 619 in all slots

And runed crests become obsolete

[pulsar quest]

Either full 1.5 cds or my 45 sec OF and BS

[summer quail]

oh yeah, i just got that today as well

[runic cypress]

Damn fuck I better go find a champion ring to upgrade

[runic cypress]

Can you upgrade to gilded crests with it?

Like buy gilded with runed

[summer quail]

uhh not tried ngl

[runic cypress]

Check the lot lizards

The one next to the upgrade one sells Transmutations

[summer quail]

ye think i can, but i don't have any runed crests left

[runic cypress]

Fuck i need to get 619 asap

But I'm only 610

[summer quail]

I mean it's 90 runed for crests for 15 gilded, but i guess it's something

[runic cypress]

My fucking Adventure ring keeps me down

[pulsar quest]

damn I feel undergeared at 620 cus some of my guildies are 623

[runic cypress]

I'm a far way from farming gilded

It's my only real way to get a crafted gilded weapon

[cyan turtle]

god i hate brood pugging

[runic cypress]

My guild only starts mythic like tomorrow

And honestly I'm not very optimistic

[signal gyro]

Where is this from?

[hard widget]

Why not?

[runic cypress]

A vendor

[runic cypress]

Why not what

[dim pecan]

? or ??

[hard widget]

^

[queen linden]

??

[summer quail]

near the upgrade guy in dornogal, there's an exchange vendor

[runic cypress]

I'm mid at best and we don't really have enough motivated people and frankly able people I think

Guild always had a problem with mythic after like 4 bosses people just don't bother signing up or lose motivation

[hard widget]

Ah i see

[runic cypress]

We'll see how it goes but generally I adjusted myself to not really expect much

[tribal flint]

So you have to use two weeks worth of runes crests for enough for 636 weapon correct

[runic cypress]

There are still like 30 gilded from heroic I guess

But yeah I'm mostly just gonna have to upgrade crests

[fluid cedar]

anyone know how mixing weapon enchant qualities affects the damage? say i have authority of the depths rank 3 in mainhand, and authority of the depths r2 in offhand. will the damage be normalized between the two ranks, or will it default to the lower rank?

[trail bane]

i havnt tried it so i dont know, but i would assume they would just apply their own version of the dot when they proc

[robust basin]

Update when

[heavy dock]

just run brood build

u get adds on pretty much all cds

[final yarrow]

wait, you can leap over the ansurek phase 3 ring?

[summer quail]

yes

[jagged tinsel]

Are you able to equip two 636's in main hand and off hand?

[fluid cedar]

yes

[jagged tinsel]

OK thanks. I was looking at the top geared warriors and I have yet to see it

[fluid cedar]

but people tend to craft 636 weapon, and 636 off piece because it costs less sparks

its impossible to craft two two handers at this point, there havent been enough sparks

[jagged tinsel]

I thought you could farm sparks? There's a weekly cap?

[fluid cedar]

yes

half a spark a week unless i'm mistaken

[jagged tinsel]

lol that's frustrating I had no idea. Where did that come from?

[fluid cedar]

at this point the max is 3 full sparks

it's been that way since sparks were introduced to the crafting system i believe

so dragonflight launch

[jagged tinsel]

I see so next week we might see a lot of ppl get their second 636

[arctic raft]

Yes, but gilded crests are still hard to come by

You could have 2 636 pieces right now

[jagged tinsel]

I'm surprised I didn't find any wowhead article that mentioned any sparks cap.

[fluid cedar]

most likely not. most will probably craft another two hander as 636 isn't the max ilvl potential and weapons are expensive to craft. they will more likely shoot for a myth track weapon (max ilvl 639) and use their sparks for different crafts, as the duskweave/thread or w/e are better for m+ content according to guides

[final yarrow]

and I won't blow the raid up when I leap through the ring while carrying the essence right?

[cyan turtle]

be the bomb you were meant to be

[weary sail]

Is that dyrus on ur profile pic

[final yarrow]

yes

[weary sail]

Fk ye

[modest condor]

dyrus is a warrior player

[buoyant salmon]

so is qt

[past depot]

hows fury compared to arms atm?

given all the cool nerfs fury been getting

[sudden tusk]

arms is better single target

Fury is still very solid in raid ST and especially AoE, but its M+ potential is concerning

[merry night]

Yeah what mad said pending updates/nerf

[buoyant salmon]

theyre both good

play what you like

[flint otter]

Yeah, I've been pretty middle of the pack in high key groups lately - where before I was cranking wayyyy ahead of other folks

Decent utility with our CCs and big cleave

[sudden tusk]

if we can live i see arms pulling ahead in M+

[merry night]

So wait we're only suppose to exe on 2 stacks of SD?

[sudden tusk]

but furys tankiness is still ver yvaluable

[sudden tusk]

no max stacks on the debuff

[buoyant salmon]

fury is doing great in current keys

[sudden tusk]

3 stacks of marked for execution

[merry night]

yeah my b not SD meant mark

hmmm there a wa to track target for that

[sudden tusk]

yeah for ST its 3 stacks

or if yourun out of RB

[flint otter]

Tbf, I might just suck at the game. That's always a very real possibility, and dare I say, a likelihood.

[merry night]

nvm im a droid, i literally had it disabled i was so lost i swore i had a wa for it lmfaooo

[flint otter]

But specs like Ass/Outlaw rogue, Arc mage both tend to clear me pretty hard on DPS overall

Fury is just very frontloaded - and when our CDs are down, it's hard to really keep up with some other ones who sustain better

[merry night]

imo Frenzied enrage helps w that sustain but i swear powerful is better

havent gotten my haste to a point where i feel like frenzied just isnt viable atm

[buoyant salmon]

u shouldnt get cleared hard on voerall by anyone

[merry night]

choco whatcha think

powerful or frenzied for raids

[flint otter]

like I said, i'm probably bad

[flint otter]

just tested and it's a notable difference with FE

[buoyant salmon]

idk i dont play this spec in raid

only on brood

[merry night]

Arms player ey?

[buoyant salmon]

i play whats better and i think 1 fury 1 arms is best for most bosses

[merry night]

i havent touched arms since i pvp'd 2 xpacs ago i might give it a whirl soon

[winter shoal]

Arms feels pretty good until you have to slam 3 globals in a row

[merry night]

🤣

is slam just filler atm for arms?

[winter shoal]

Yeah, with the reduced chance for tactician proccing you end up needing to use slam more than before

The upside is that opportunist OP actually feels like a button instead of just another filler

[merry night]

is it bad i have 0 idea what that stuff is

[winter shoal]

RIP to our king DN though I loved that talent

[merry night]

i just kinda press buttons and pink parse

[winter shoal]

[merry night]

[buoyant salmon]

slam is just ur filler

[merry night]

ps tac is CDR for OP or is it MS?

[winter shoal]

Tactician is OP cooldown reset

[merry night]

whats the %?

i thought it was like stupid low

[winter shoal]

And it triggers opportunist, which is a big buff to your OP

I think the chance depends on talents but yeah it's a lot lower than it used to be

[merry night]

lemme check it

[winter shoal]

I've played arms on exactly one fight one time so idrk what I'm talking about tbh

Choco is the armsman

[merry night]

1%...

so its just pure rng

[buoyant salmon]

it depends on how much rage u spend

[merry night]

oh it ramps up based on that?

[buoyant salmon]

1% chance per point of rage

if u spend 30 rage u have 30% chance

[winter shoal]

Is that with or without deft experience

[merry night]

hmmm

arms main stat is crit right

[buoyant salmon]

haste crit

[buoyant salmon]

idk i logged out

too lazy to log back in and check

[merry night]

id prolly have to regear then

[winter shoal]

Respect

[merry night]

i think my mast is 51% atm

[sullen dove]

don’t think deft is changed still 2.5% chance per point just that nothing costs 40 rage anymore so not guaranteed on abilities (ww and tclap) now

Unless maybe exec is 40 rage

But every other filler is 20 and ms is 30 I think

[trail bane]

screw it im going to bed now Liquid will kill it next pull

[sullen dove]

tru

[winter shoal]

Warrior gonna get nerfed with Riku on top of the meters

[sullen dove]

i been radio silent the whole last 12 hours but 3% is kinda cwazy

[winter shoal]

nerfed again*

[sullen dove]

u mean Riku dead on the floor

(meme)

(kinda)

[winter shoal]

"Res Riku"

I could play better than him

[sullen dove]

real

get me in there

get bazeface in there

[winter shoal]

Idk I felt bad for him earlier, he told Max he was in his head bc he died to web blades one time and then just kept fumbling it

[sullen dove]

They woulda killed her before reset week 1

[winter shoal]

Who does Baze raid with?

[sullen dove]

idk

think some guild called fierce or a remake of it maybe not called the same

[marble swift]

man fury feels like shit

outside of odyns i want to fall asleep

[buoyant salmon]

play am

[marble swift]

yeah maybe arms time

[buoyant salmon]

yeah thats exactly what i meant

[marble swift]

i got you

[nocturne dragon]

or he meant anger management instead of reckless abandon?

[sudden tusk]

who do i gotta blow

to get this insta tick shit remoevd

[verbal rivet]

Got through Broodtwister heroic tonight. Got second overall DPS. Overall not a bad night.

[proud crown]

could be wrong but I think I remember it being a targeted spell cast

[fervent yoke]

Which mythic plus dungeon should I farm first what gives most important gear

[modest condor]

stonevault and arakara

[late ivy]

when do you guys leap for the last boss in arakara?

[verbal rivet]

Then Grim Batol for the Weapons

(Good Luck)

[wanton mirage]

Confession: I just bricked a key going into a key drunk, whole dungeon without meat cleaver.

[verbal rivet]

Valid reason

[sick cypress]

Just got a 1H fury weapon from a delve

FFS

Why does this happen bro

[modest condor]

damn 1.9% wipe from liquid

[astral path]

Always have loot spec on arms

[oak heath]

do this

[astral path]

Same loot pool but without 1 handers

[tender sky]

I feel like they won’t be able to sleep

Only a couple hours of attempts left before the wheels fall off

[full portal]

how good is dungeon slice?

[sullen dove]

Even if it is this close think echo is pretty damn far behind still

so idk if they’re at risk of it waking up to kill 25% is a lot of overcome

But prolly can start closing the gap pretty fast

just who knows how confident they’ll be about going to sleep or they just run it till deadge

[sullen dove]

it’s ok so long as you know what to expect, it’s not gonna be a representation at all of what your overall at the end of an m+ should look like but it’s just a general “a portion of st and a portion of various aoe packs” I think you can mostly use to make comparisons for trinkets and stuff

stats are prolly also fine but regular st sim should be accurate enough on that regard

[sick cypress]

Thankyou, can't believe this is necessary.

[restive pewter]

do we go uproar am + something else on brood

or is the regular raid cleave build good enough

[sullen dove]

But mainly seeing Which trinkets become better or worse in dslice vs st and trying to think about the reasons why and running it if you want

[sullen dove]

Uproar is ok I think am is a little too cooked

But unlikely uproar is like “necessary” for heroic

for mythic tho I think most take it cuz just way more and way bigger add sets

[buoyant salmon]

can also try frenzied enrage

if ur talking about mythic

if heroic that shit dont matter

i couldnt consistently get my cds up for every single add cert with powerful enrage

[daring hare]

is it worth it to use bladestorm on opening for the extra damage buff you get from it

[restive pewter]

heard u yeah its just hero so

[worthy mountain]

Drop 1 ATTT for it?

[sullen dove]

most likely yeah

[summer quail]

ofcourse, not as first ability tho if that's what you mean

[rugged maple]

Do you all typically need to hold for your tanks in M+? If so how long

[frank dawn]

if you're about to send everything, I def give them 2-3 globals

sometime still have to meld

[left perch]

Is liquid max the 21st man

The omega

Man

[sick cypress]

Are we upgrading Conq weapons to 616 or is it not worth?

[lost saffron]

No

You craft and then everything else is free upgrade

[weary sail]

Everytime i look at the stream

Riku is dead

I stg

[lost saffron]

You should replace him

[young swan]

both warriors kinda trolling

[covert blaze]

xan>liquid

[buoyant salmon]

yeah riku has had a super bad day unfortunately

happens to the best of us

[covert blaze]

@young swan are you taking a break from raiding this tier or am i imagining things

[weary sail]

They are pumping but damn stop dying

[young swan]

ur imagining things

[weary sail]

Watching DH dash around back flip while me as fury warr hit buttons that lights up unga bunga

[young swan]

silm is taking a break tho

[covert blaze]

im making shit up ig

[covert blaze]

oh yeah

that's what it was

[young swan]

yeah i figured u just got confused

[sullen dove]

bazeface would never die there

do at least 2mil dps

[bitter palm]

3

[young swan]

yeah true actually

baze is cranking in fierce 3.0

[sullen dove]

Maximum I know you’ve been planning Ansurek strategy and comp for awhile, but hear me out I have an idea. I’m a LFR raider so I have some experience in this area. Have you considered 0 tanking the raid? You get 1 to 2 more DPS and can kill the boss faster. You’re welcome for the idea, you can ginvite me later when I log on

[oak raven]

Makes sooo much sense that warriors getting nerfed - Grim Batol +5 xD

[sullen dove]

[bleak fox]

gotta keep paladins in n1 spot

[slim grotto]

How accurate is Archon for tier lists?

[bleak fox]

[sullen dove]

titanic individual

[toxic sonnet]

Seems right

[sullen dove]

is that a tier list?

[bleak fox]

mayhaps

play what you like tbh

[bitter palm]

hoooly

[sullen dove]

no way tahts real

[bitter palm]

whats the point of a tierlist if everything is s tier xddddd

[bleak fox]

fresh from archon.gg

[sullen dove]

actually braindead

website

dogshit

[bleak fox]

[bitter palm]

subcreation wasnt this bad

istg

also why is sub

in a tier

people cant play trickster or what

[bleak fox]

meanwhile icy-veins:

[bitter palm]

u literally explode a prio target while cleaving

that one makes mor3 sense except the fire mage part i think

[sick cypress]

Explain this please?

[bitter palm]

when u craft a weapon

[flat bear]

Blessed weapon grip would be BiS for weapon embleshment if i primarirly do M+ correct?

[bitter palm]

a piece in general

[bitter palm]

duskthread is bis for m+

[weary sail]

What do these numbers even mean

[flat bear]

i do have duskthread on cloak

[bitter palm]

get a 2nd one on some other piece like wrists

[flat bear]

but I did ascendance on weapon originally, but tbh i rarely raid

so just wanna recraft weapon to try and salavage the 2 sparks

[bitter palm]

i would just play ascendance

[sick viper]

mountain thane bis next season

[bitter palm]

clappa bis

[bleak fox]

i guess the RIO scores for every spec for this week

[toxic sonnet]

Bliz pls

[bleak fox]

i want to clap those thunders

also wowhead

[bleak fox]

nothing is in S tier

[vital helm]

Is raidbots sims up to date for fury? im getting weird/confusing results

[young swan]

damn

[sullen dove]

W LIQUID

[young swan]

echo got gapped

[sullen dove]

W LIQUID

W LIQUID

[sudden tusk]

W

W

[sullen dove]

DIE XAN

[sudden tusk]

W

W

W

W

[sullen dove]

W W W

[river reef]

BOSS DED LIQUID WON