fury

[stark hornet]

Dumb question... If execute is so low on the prio list, then why is it important not to overcap sudden death? Or am I missing an interaction?

[serene moat]

Meanwhile arms destroyed fury at Nymue

[trail bane]

Yup, and im stopping the conversation here because it seems you are not even listening.

Gl hf

[serene moat]

Well, if the screenshot I posted would have stated that.

But it said, we should talent pure st

Okay, I'm not listening, cause I have a different opinion. Fine.

Still Fury has the fastest AOE burst and is one of the classes losing the least St value by specing some AOE. So if adds die faster with gear getting up, almost every other class should stop specing AOE before Fury.

There is one thing this broken spec can do atm. That's dishing out crazy amounts of AOE DPS in just a few sec, without any preparation. Like no other class can.
That's why we get 3 aoe nerfs in a row.

[summer crater]

No shit we lose the least ST value, our ST is absolutely trash even with the single-target spec and both simming and performing hundreds of thousands less than other specs

If it's not there in the first place there isn't much to lose out on

[serene moat]

That's true.

[trail bane]

Its true now, it hasnt always been true.

And other classes have been better at burst aoe than us, so speccing aoe on fights where burst aoe classes kill adds before we can hit them was pointless. Thats why the guide said we are more of a single target spec on most fights.

Its not ment for this tier

Its ment for some old tier

[summer crater]

Interestingly for mage specs people thought frost was good and fire in the gutter, but fire is dominating and at around the same spot as arcane

[summer crater]

Even now it's largely pointless

And mostly bloat

Not like the raid will wipe because it takes half a second longer to kill the adds without a fury warrior

On bosses like Rasha

[forest owl]

guys whats your go-to choice, powerful enrage or frenzied? i cant choose (m+)

[errant vessel]

Frenzied because more button presses = more dopamine

[warm crag]

powerful if theres aoe always

this isnt even a choice thing picking frenzied is just worse

[strong pilot]

man idk why berserker's rage doesn't have a better use, maybe make it remove toxins too idk, that'd be cool

[warm crag]

talent bitter immunity or

[strong pilot]

Damn a whole ass talent but that's a good point

I just want some better baseline util ngl

[oblique trail]

You can pick up basically everything you want without much issue

Anything you should want anyway

Thane not as much because you have the point tax of TC, but Slayer you can move stuff around and have enough CC if for M+, while also having a flex point or two for whatever

[restive pewter]

thoughts on saving another 90 gilded for the crafted bracers?

[oblique trail]

Use it on other gear instead

[restive pewter]

Or should I just send the 619

Ahh

Okay

[oblique trail]

Your wrists being 636 is very meaningless

[restive pewter]

Honestly I’m glad to hear it

Fuck that expensive ass shit

[oblique trail]

Rn Gilded are incredibly valuable, so spend them on upgrading actual gear since wrist ilvl barely nets you anything, and the embellishment on it doesn't do anything with ilvl

[restive pewter]

makes sense yeah

I’ll prob just send it with the free runed crest we got then

[oblique trail]

It's what I, and prob a lot of other people, also did

[bitter palm]

its not only aoe but go on

we still lose nothing going aoe

[restive pewter]

just gotta spend more time in the gathering mines

[brazen estuary]

Which professions are people rocking btw? I got enchanting and mining with no special patterns

[warm crag]

i think you should upgrade pieces and vendor them!!!!!!!!

alchemy for the flask duration increase

[restive pewter]

Vendoring my hero track wild hammer

[strong pilot]

for moneymaking or just for m+?

[restive pewter]

🫡

[oblique trail]

I will vendor you

[warm crag]

wtf????????

[oblique trail]

Except I can't for you are priceless!

[ornate gust]

i crafted 619 and saved gilded to upgrade myth track weapon, head, legs and chest.

[brazen estuary]

Either or

[strong pilot]

Alchemy for M+ for flask duration increase

[warm crag]

brother was fed m tier out the wazoo

more geared than rwf raiders gg

[restive pewter]

Yeah imma go with that soggo

[oblique trail]

Spongie is more geared than wf raiders, he just hides his armory so it doesn't track it

[brazen estuary]

Yeah used to run alchemy in legion But dropped it again. Considered taking it back just for the flask

[warm crag]

liar

i am ONLY 623 !!!!

[restive pewter]

What

[oblique trail]

You are a liar and a noob

[restive pewter]

Juice lord

[warm crag]

(105 gilded crests in bag)

[oblique trail]

I am only 625

[restive pewter]

tf I thought I was doing decent at 615

I see now why I can’t get into 9s

[errant vessel]

Pretty sure what you gain from Powerful in AOE you lose in ST. Don’t remember the exact amount though

[oblique trail]

They're about equivalent in ST

[errant vessel]

I need to sim it again, because that wasn’t the case last time I did

[oblique trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qRFQnApgpmkNy3npP2FguT for me, they're about a .4% difference in both ST talents and M+ talents

So pretty negligible

[errant vessel]

How much on AOE? Not home rn so can’t check myself

But that is very negligible yes

How much haste do you have flat

[oblique trail]

Iirc with that gear setup around 27-28%

and like 17k rating

[foggy parrot]

Should Defensive Stance be used during unavoidable group damage or is it too weak?

Feels like Fury doesn't have many defensives nowadays

[oblique trail]

It should absolutely be used if it's the difference between you living or not

And Fury has plenty, you just gotta utilise them

Def stance + SR alone carries a lot, on top of passive 10% DR from being enraged and the increased HP pool

[foggy parrot]

Rally and Frenzied Regen feel like the only meaningful ones

Ahhh fair enough

[oblique trail]

You need to press SR more often then

[foggy parrot]

I guess the baseline stam is already quite high too

[oblique trail]

You get 20% Magic DR regardless of spell reflecting anything, on a very short CD

[foggy parrot]

Actually didn't know that, thank you!

[gentle jacinth]

Yo boys! after you use whirlwind, do you cleave around the target itself or cleave around the character? and how big of a cleave range is it?

[oblique trail]

It's cleaving around you, and I don't recall the cleave range but it's quite lenient

[random raptor]

I feel so weak in m+ lol\

[gentle jacinth]

so i have to position myself inside the pack i guess

[tired brook]

ye

i’d recommend getting a whirlwind tracker so you know to refresh it after 4 gcds

[oblique trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tLmu6wz6uowBhVoFWoFUrh DS
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ixmXZn9W3QWhhjFkXkoP7D PW 5 min 5T
Ahead by 1% and 3% respectively

[jagged flax]

whats like the gold you have to spend to get 619 everforged varmbraces?

[oblique trail]

Whatever 4 sanc alloy and 12 ironclaw alloy costs in your region

With the appropriate rankings accounted for

For me, it was around 30k for mats, crafted it myself

[jagged flax]

i bought r3 mats

ye okey

just wanna know if thats the right thing

ty

[twin wedge]

guys i just charged the pack before the second boss in siege

and fell through the world

got insta dced

now i cant log in anymore

when i log in i fall through the world then get insta dced

what do

[runic cypress]

Wait

I had this happen right before the ship boss in siege

Had to wait like 4 minutes

Or try character stuck support

[twin wedge]

yeah ill try stuck character i guess

[errant vessel]

Do you think it’s because you overcap by 6% during BL with Frenzied? I can’t see any other reason why the difference would be that big between your sims and mine

As well as DR

[oblique trail]

%'s don't DR

Only flat rating

[errant vessel]

No I don’t mean the DR mechanic, I mean the natural DR from investing more in a stat

[oblique trail]

Oh

I don't think 17-18k rating is near the DR range

But I also don't know what the new DR ranges areso

[dense elbow]

Power Vs frenzied, is more a question of damage windows. Dam amp window and/or adds, go powerful. If not go either.
My practical experience is that either or choice is basically equal overall dam in a key.
So chose what you prefer

[restive granite]

what % damage variation would you consider significant enough to go for one talent over the other?

[dense elbow]

5-10% area, I played OF in all of DF

[restive granite]

for me powerful is 3% over frenzied in 5t and 1.3% behind in ST

but it does feel better to play with frenzied

[dense elbow]

Go frenzied then, 3% is prob less swing than how OF lines up with pulls

[hard widget]

Time to play Single minded Mountain thane x)

[dense elbow]

But why

It makes OF weaker

[hard widget]

Kekw

[dense elbow]

Today I am prob gonna do some 10s as Thane tho, give it it's fair shot

[vestal root]

my Arms is destroying Fury in M+ higher keys on chain pulls say it aint so

[hard widget]

It aint so

[dense elbow]

It is so

[vestal root]

having demolish and warbreaker so often is gucci

fury without avatar reck is noodle

[dense elbow]

Play whatever makes you happy love

[vestal root]

2mil cleaves on bonegrinder

[dense elbow]

Big hits is arms forte after all

[vestal root]

fury is crazy insaneo on big pull but as soon as your CDs are down you are competing with tank

[restive granite]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wDHtBCWMrncjTFZNLenV8M
this is MT vs slayer for me, in ST though it falls for 15.4%. Doubt its worth it

[vestal root]

i think arms having shorter CDs really helps imo, like ret having shit every 30s

[hard widget]

It is not.

[clever mural]

Ret can eat poop

[dense elbow]

What helps arms win, is all the freaking fury nerfs

[hard widget]

That only helps u in low keys where u get new pulls every 30 sec imo

[vestal root]

if those PTR changes go through its GG

[restive granite]

they wont go through, i honestly think they wont

[dense elbow]

They will, cause they want to kill our burst

[restive granite]

xD

[vestal root]

you guys think they would let fury be good ?

blizzard?

[dense elbow]

They hate odyns they hate it with all their heart

[vestal root]

you guys think blizz respects fury?

[dense elbow]

I do

[coarse moon]

Hey @hard widget, any tips on how to get into groups as fury? Playing decline simulator

[hard widget]

Blizzard is just in the process of nerfing every capstone till the point we dont play any of em anymore 🙂

[bitter palm]

get rio

[hard widget]

Play your own key mostly

[dense elbow]

They just hate burst and fun. They don't hate fury

[bitter palm]

no other way

[restive granite]

im 2.7k and i cant get into 10s if its not my key xD

[bitter palm]

u need to push ur key get crazy rio

[vestal root]

why is frost dk allowed to exist then

or enh

[hard widget]

Because they wont nerf during Queen prog

[dense elbow]

Play tank till you are beyond the curve, then you can play as DPS

[coarse moon]

What do you mean beyond the curve?

[dense elbow]

You are so good looking in the group finder tool that they chose yoy

[coarse moon]

Tanked a +9 mists so maybe I should continue tanking? So much research needed though

[hard widget]

Dont tank if you dont like it

Just play what you like, but as dps you have more competition

[dense elbow]

Think of it like this: when you use your key and see the 100 DPS sign up. Would you have chosen yourself?

[restive granite]

i woudlnt invite a warrior if i had a ret, dk or rogue with the same ilvl and io

[vestal root]

[restive granite]

in the q

[dense elbow]

I invite warrior cause they always at worst decent. All others are extremely hot or miss

[restive granite]

for me thats mages

[bitter palm]

my experience with warriors is that most of them cant wait 2 seconds

die to aggro

repeat

unless its a warrior i know

[dense elbow]

I just send my burst instantly on pull atm

Most raid tanks learned to snap threat by now

Gotta thank the raid for that

[restive granite]

ive tanked a bunch of keys with warriors in it and threat has never been an issue. In high keys its not an issue too

its shit tanks that dont press their buttons

that struggle with threat

[runic cypress]

WATCH ME SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM

[coarse moon]

cheers guys. ill either try continue tanking or running my keys

[dense elbow]

I told ya this since day 1

[bitter palm]

issue is while gathering they just cant wait at least they couldnt in s3

[dense elbow]

Hf mango 🥭

[bitter palm]

maybe they evolved

[velvet canopy]

The first couple pulls before I know if they're going to hold aggro or not I'll usually give them a GCD before turning into a human bomb

[restive granite]

oh yeah while gathering i dont go in

i just stay on my mount

[dense elbow]

Why would you go while gathering, you won't hit everything

[velvet canopy]

That's hunter behavior. Don't be a hunter

[bitter palm]

idk ask them i wonder the same

[restive granite]

some people just go and hit without cooldowns

[bitter palm]

they can md

[restive granite]

while gathering

and ruin the pull

[bitter palm]

rogues can tricks

or do rogues play blackjack idk anymore

is blackjack even a thing

[restive granite]

whats blackjack

[bitter palm]

anymore

was on the choice node with tricks

[restive granite]

ohhh

the sap one?

[bitter palm]

sapped enemies take 50% more damage or something

[restive granite]

yeah

deal less damage or something iirc

[runic cypress]

Bladestorm has a huge range you can often hit everything while moving out of AOE shit like whirlwind in boralus

[dense elbow]

But you won't hit everything with your followup rampage

Smh

[runic cypress]

What's rampage?

[restive granite]

rampage jackson

[bitter palm]

30 reduced damage and healing ye

[dense elbow]

[bitter palm]

shit was pretty nuts in some keys

[restive granite]

tricks is too good though

[runic cypress]

Is he related to Action Jackson?

[restive granite]

id kill to have tricks

[bitter palm]

but tricks too good yeah

especially as outlaw

when u perma 6 roll

every single pack

[restive granite]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-as-hell-gif-19438491

[runic cypress]

Woah dude looks mad as hell

[hybrid umbra]

you can no longer reflect zekvir's p2 fear right

[restive granite]

being honest, has warrior ever been worse than S1 SL?

[bitter palm]

wotlk naxx idk they were pretty shit then as well

but cn was demon times

[runic cypress]

Mop

[dense elbow]

I am honestly glad that even days after, there are still new posts showing up on the warrior forum complaining

gives me some hope

[lilac basin]

hello guys, could someone advice me about what gear to upgrade with crests in priority after weapons

[hard widget]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/preview?pli=1

[restive granite]

i got banned from the forums already

i did my part

[strong pilot]

ara kara 613 is simming lower than my 606 kiss of death and ritual knife

[meager void]

share sim

ah yes, buffs at the cost of personal decency. Good trade.

#JustStopNerfs crowd

[hasty tide]

It used to bother me that they couldn't balance for shit until I realized they probably only have like 3 employees doing all the balancing for all class/spec on their own

[meager void]

yes, its only 3 people. 4 if you count the gerbil.

[hasty tide]

Personality hire

[restive granite]

it still bothers me tbh

even if its 3 people, better not push a spec breaking change than to spit them out

[restive fiber]

I want to know how blizzard collect data and test classes

[cloud jungle]

Are they nerfing bladestorms dmg again in 11.0.5?

[dense elbow]

No idea, not been stated, but I dont doubt it

[opaque cypress]

no they are adding nerfs from live to ptr I think

[dense elbow]

Nerfs aint done before pressing OF or bladestorm does the exact same dps as if you pressed raging blow

Why? Cause burst is fun; fun is detected. Fun is erradicated from WoW.

[sterile dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-doomed-bmth-gif-25662814

[cloud jungle]

Cause if that nerf actually goes through both specs are in the bin

• soft capped to 5 targets

[earnest grail]

So, thats old Nerfs, right? Please tell me that are already nerfed on live servers and they will not do it a third time

[cloud jungle]

No these are 11.0.5

[earnest grail]

that means what? Another Nerf?

[cloud jungle]

For next patch ye

[calm quartz]

Isn't that the bs and of nerfs

Just officially changed in wowhead or w/e

[sterile dagger]

im already feeling like i do less damage in keys compare to other classes with less gear

[calm quartz]

Or are they getting hit again lmao

[cloud jungle]

Im not sure Im so confused man

[earnest grail]

where did u find those Notes?

[cloud jungle]

On wowhead

[earnest grail]

how old is the thread

[cloud jungle]

sec

[earnest grail]

or please post it here for research

[cloud jungle]

Mb i think those nerfs already went through

fuckin hell mb

[quiet geyser]

Thats an old thread

[earnest grail]

glad

You scared me Bro

😄

[cloud jungle]

I have 3 warriors man I was going to commit suicide

[earnest grail]

dont do that

there is always light on the end

[thick fossil]

@sudden tusk Is this you? LMFAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF2UUuo2BTk

[earnest grail]

im pretty sure we are out of Favorites for M+ runs, for sure. But we will get buffed again later.

[frail trout]

yeah I don't remember it being this hard to get into m+ when I've timed the keys I'm applying for

[cloud jungle]

I personally think the class needs a rework

[earnest grail]

I watched the Video from Critcake, even he wasnt like it and hes not a doomer

[frail trout]

maybe 618 is too far behind the curve already

[earnest grail]

same

[cloud jungle]

Cause there's no sweet spot, either mega good or mega shite

[earnest grail]

we have to overrage for max dps

thats absolutly stupid

[cloud jungle]

I missed the days we had sometihng to provide

Our rallying cry I would trade it for a piece of onion ring

[earnest grail]

Give me Legion Execute Buff back

and im happy with the Class

[cloud jungle]

Give me back banners from MOP

[earnest grail]

nah

i dont like the banners

[runic cypress]

@dense elbow

I made it

[cloud jungle]

I want utility

[earnest grail]

gz!

[cloud jungle]

gz

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-startedfromthebottom-celebrate-gif-5022228

[earnest grail]

I rly like the SoD Buff for Warriors after giving Onyia Head

[thick fossil]

Back at the bottom? lol

[frail trout]

am I below the average player doing 9's at 618 ilvl? getting invited to keys is insane, is everybody 624 already

[runic cypress]

Man fuck you hater

I dont fuck with opps like you

[cloud jungle]

Oof

https://tenor.com/view/chill-zen-buddha-omm-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10692319061302954036

[thick fossil]

lol oh man, I wasn't sure where you were going with that. I had to make the joke.

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-energy-gif-5474097

[forest owl]

how's assass rogue in keys atm? not done many with them

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/giggles-gif-26049387

[cloud jungle]

they're mega good

[earnest grail]

pretty insane

[cloud jungle]

They'd fold you and put you in the bin as a wrarior

[earnest grail]

am thinking of rerolling assa rogue and make my warrior a Tank

[forest owl]

that explains this i guess i thought maybe im just bad or smth

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/unknown-p-cursed-dance-funny-dance-bobux-stinky-gif-21455393

[cloud jungle]

They also bring a lot more to the group than you do

[runic cypress]

ROLLIN ROUND IN A ROVER

[cloud jungle]

so it's an easy pick

[runic cypress]

WHEN I SEE OPPS THEN ITS OVA

[thick fossil]

Ok, that's pretty funny! lol

[clever mural]

We all goin pinkboi and assa?

[acoustic anchor]

It's funny cuz I see so many rogues going warr or ret because they find it easier to do the rotation

Rogue has too much stealth baked into all specs

[earnest grail]

its easier for sure, but you have no damage als fury

[acoustic anchor]

Wut

[forest owl]

outside of burst i just fall off like a noodle

[acoustic anchor]

I was out dps'ing an assa rogue today in NW

[clever mural]

Then he bad or undergeared

[frail trout]

you don't do dps if your stuck in town

[acoustic anchor]

Same for assa rogue if u dont have stealth you cant spread your dots

if your tank pulls from pack to pack and you dont have vanish up youre kinda fucked

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-good-job-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-anime-gif-12053039777437670320

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-we-da-best-number1-best-dj-gif-13776150

First in my guild to get it too except one guy who just buys boosts for everything

[thick fossil]

Oooooh shit, ok I totally missed that part.

[river viper]

I am 615 and I still get invited eventually

[runic cypress]

i do not have 612 ilvl dunno what this summary is on about

[young glacier]

Ilvl is nothing

Its all about IO

[acoustic anchor]

Everyone wants to do +9s so I dont think you're undergeared, just have too much competition

[coarse moon]

credit score is nothing. all about io

[acoustic anchor]

All in all other classes just bring way more wanted shit while warrior doesnt bring that much to the table

[runic cypress]

"BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT FORECLOSE MY HOUSE I HAVE 2.5k RIO"

[earnest grail]

i have 2,1k rio and get declined for +5 Keys

[young glacier]

We need >200 rest to get invited xd

[earnest grail]

haha

nice one 😄

[young glacier]

2500 declined all 10s

Premade or reroll

[forest owl]

imagine if the aoe cap was live

[acoustic anchor]

At that point you could only run your own keys I'd imagine xd

[young glacier]

That nerf will never come in

Or we all reroll

[near wing]

I’m skeptical of the nerf too

[river viper]

I think that's what blzzard wants

[coarse moon]

we get pitchforks and picket signs to blizz

[runic cypress]

I gues now the real struggle begins climbing to 2.5k

[coarse moon]

thats our plan

[acoustic anchor]

Hopefully the lead class design that is obviously maining paladin learns to read and sees theyre a mistake

[young glacier]

Not only we dont deserve the nerf. We need an utility buff

[river viper]

2325 here, its a right slog

[runic cypress]

20 people online in guild
not one single gratz

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-crying-anime-gif-9027702

Even the random russians and spaniards in my party said gratz

[young glacier]

Its not like enh sham has purge, tremor, antipoison, BL, 4 def CDs, slow, 2 aoe CCs, movility. Aoe, ST. Do i miss something

[light tapir]

Grats

[young glacier]

Weve shockwave

XD

[acoustic anchor]

Akshually this guy on reddit said warrior already has too many stuns

Shockwave, stormbolt, fear

[tired brook]

good take

ill make sure to talent fear to prove him right

[young glacier]

Hahahaahaha

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-elf-cute-kawaii-gif-1391919008270779198

[frail trout]

think its time to call it quits on pug keys, I'll wait for guild people to log on later shits insane

it's easier to get a job irl than get invited to a key rn

[tired brook]

i just make my own keys and only invite absolutely insane players

free pushes

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/never-give-up-fist-pump-motivation-motivational-gif-4892451

[acoustic anchor]

I need one +6 stonevault to reach my 2k and nobody wants me :(

[runic cypress]

All my rated runs are pugs

[young glacier]

Guildies are worse

[frail trout]

I'm filtering the runs I apply to as well with pgf, I'm only applying to groups that have a lust spot already

or my joining would not remove the ability to gain lust

so idk

shit's baked

[young glacier]

Why the hell dont we have BL or CR

Atleast xD

[iron portal]

Priest doesnt have one either

[acoustic anchor]

Dont really understand why mage ever got a BL like they dont already bring enough

[iron portal]

👀

[frail trout]

also its barely 9 AM, NA people are barely awake

the quantity of keys I'm seeing in queue is so low and yet its swarmed with people applying

weird shit

not that its any easier to get into keys in prime time

[sudden tusk]

Yeah

[fiery hare]

i gave up after 50 grim batol 9 declines as 615

gotta mythic raid to get better illv :<

[restive granite]

loved the intro lmao ahahah

[verbal rivet]

I could go get a job, work a weekend, buy a BM hunter Boost, level to 80, buy tokens to buy gear. And push keys to a higher level then trying to get 2k on my 610 fury war.

[tired brook]

once yall find out you can host keys your life will change

super tough concept, dont get invited = invite others

[iron portal]

Or do with guildies

[sudden tusk]

It was a lot of fun to do LMAO

[near wing]

You can buy boosts? New to retail, haven’t heard this… who does this stuff to make money? Kinda crazy

[verbal rivet]

Blizzard sells boosts to 70

[tired brook]

for like $70 a character

or just buy a 1-70 for 180k avg

quite cheaper than blizzards supreme pricing

[verbal rivet]

Spent hour and a half trying to get a group for Mista +6. It was fun

I was hosting that, and the only person who joined was another Fury War

[errant vessel]

Is pinging archimtiros permitted or will he execute me irl

[verbal rivet]

I wouldn’t

[fiery hare]

you will get executed irl

twice

[tired brook]

ghost ping him

[graceful trellis]

dps queues are always long , probably a good hour even if you are trying to host. solution to that ? play as prot

[tired brook]

idk hosting keys 9 and above i get 50 penders in 3 minutes

[fiery hare]

basically dont ever play fury,just play prot and 😄

[tired brook]

15-20% of them being tank/heals

[verbal rivet]

It’s what I’m doing, but just not going back to Fury

[tired brook]

just dont instantly accept 2 dps when hosting to allow parties to pend

[graceful trellis]

and that’s great if it happens

[verbal rivet]

Anything under 7, or not first week 2k is cooked.

[graceful trellis]

also i feel that people will be more skeptical to join a higher key m>6 since pugging will end up being painful

[hard widget]

Do it an you'll find out 😄

[errant vessel]

I don't dare to

[iron portal]

He will find you and he will kill you

Prob not with irish accent

[verbal rivet]

Jokes on you, he already has all our IPs

[errant vessel]

anyone you can ping for APL change

[iron portal]

@errant vessel then ping his cousin

@tribal nymph

I mean, if its meaningfull, ping him. He wont bite you...yet

[modest condor]

if you think it warrants a ping then i dont see the problem

[verbal rivet]

That accounts DMs must be a hellscape

[errant vessel]

1.3% dmg increase on MT rotation

[modest condor]

if it's a "hey why is the sword recommended as craft instead of the axe" then probably dont

[errant vessel]

is that warranted

[modest condor]

sure i guess

[eternal sundial]

he doesnt bite

just ping

[errant vessel]

I feel like I'm getting baited

[eternal sundial]

i have pinged him like 20 times

and im still ehre

[tired brook]

@modest condor hey why is the sword recommended as craft instead of the axe

[eternal sundial]

legit 40 pings

[golden hare]

that is 36

???

stop lying

[modest condor]

because he initially had different weapons suggested based on what embellishment you wanted to craft (arbitrary but to differentiate between them) but then one of the embellishments got nerfed

[tired brook]

can we all ping him at once as a team effort

[eternal sundial]

😭 math king erga

also hiiii

[red berry]

people here can’t read or do math

[golden hare]

haiii :3

[verbal rivet]

Archimtiros is chill af as long as you are genuinely doing something that isn’t a read along for the guide they wrote.

[tired brook]

he cant ban us all

[red berry]

wanna get haiiiii :3

[errant vessel]

@edgy widget Yo I wrote you a message already, but I noticed the APL doesn't have the debuff.marked_for_execution.stack=3 line implemented for MT rotation. It's a 1.3% dmg increase for me, so I believe it's an oversight?

[tired brook]

run

[orchid sparrow]

🙋🏼hi guys

Got a question

Last boss of siege bolaus( idk how to spell it )

That single target blue ring stuff

Is that a curse or magic effect

[oblique trail]

Magic

[orchid sparrow]

Oki

Cheers

[hardy cargo]

if the debuff has purple border its curse

like the warlocks on the back end of grim batol

[modern gull]

guys is it worth always to use 2x raging blow first before bloodthirst because of our 4 set or not worth it to track?

[oblique trail]

Not worth tracking the set bonus

Just play as usual and you'll get basically full value out of the set, to the point of it not being a detriment

[modern gull]

ok, fury set seems so boring xD

[oblique trail]

It is pretty boring yes, and doesn't really interact with our rotation in any meaningful way

[frail trout]

boring is fine but its bad, the 4p is anyway

[modern gull]

so its both

[tawny shadow]

Have you guys tried anger management slayer in fortify m+ it feels good imo

[oblique trail]

I have and I did not like it

Did decent overall but the ST loss is just not it

[restive granite]

for me AM was a loss in overall and ST

[restive peak]

AM sucks now

[hardy cargo]

I tried it in one key and lost overall for the first time this expansion to the windwalker I play with

so gg no talent it ever again

[restive peak]

Everything gets too desynced + far lower ST

[modest condor]

i miss AM

[oblique trail]

I don't

Die AM die

[hard widget]

I miss AM too

Tbh

I prefer it over RA by a mile

[hardy cargo]

id like RA a lot more if it had some way to incentivize not rage capping

like a special affect on each buff whether cb/bb if not used when press rampage

[clever belfry]

AM uptime slave dogshit

[oblique trail]

Broodtwister alone made me hate AM even more than I usually do

[clever belfry]

Broodtwister is especially bad

tight timer moment

[hardy cargo]

we used one of our two nights for norm/hc week 2 so we only 3/8M im excited to see broodtwister

[clever belfry]

Don't be

Fight is proper cheeks as melee

[hardy cargo]

ill just fuck my raid and play arms anyways

[oblique trail]

You will quickly run into an add problem

[clever belfry]

by dear god

do not arms that fight

[hardy cargo]

[clever belfry]

unless u have 3 fdks and a fury aswell

then go ahead

[hardy cargo]

no I am a bit worried for our comp on that boss

0 fdk

2 fury

1 boomie

[clever belfry]

gl

big spiders will not perish

[hardy cargo]

idek what other classes would be desirable tbh

[clever belfry]

and your tanks will perish/nuke the raid in p2

[stuck bison]

did they revert 20th anniversary nerfs or am i seeing wrong ?

[hardy cargo]

hmm ok I will keep that in mind and bring it up as a potential pain point thanks

[keen nimbus]

this game flng sucks ... queing for 2hours, no invites

[summer quail]

I mean those aren't out yet

[keen nimbus]

fck this game

[modest talon]

mates, whats a proper sim setting for m+?

[halcyon verge]

Silly and random question but I am looking to build a macro for cooldowns. Does anyone have some suggestions? I am current running Champion's Spear, Avatar, Bladestorm and Recklessness as the big cooldowns.

[modest talon]

patchwerck 4-5 targets for 40sec-1min

or hecticc addcleave?

[olive wraith]

Don’t really macro anything

[stuck bison]

i am tripping or blind. cant find aoe cap changes in this anymore
https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/20th-anniversary-update-ptr-development-notes-534486

[clever belfry]

scroll down

all the way

this is bascially a thread so you see all posts regarding ptr in order

[lusty jungle]

Bottom of the barrell the rats are adressed

[stuck bison]

aah yeah soz

[hardy cargo]

the only thing i would macro here is to specifically bake recklessness into avatar

and if playing am I split them

[clever belfry]

Very few cases of not wanting to reck when u ava with AM tbf

recking without Ava on the other hand happens

[vestal root]

pepos still raging on forums?

[somber elk]

Hope so

[hardy cargo]

[fickle wharf]

How good is Sikran trinket pls ?

[olive wraith]

Even then you’d ideally want a separate keybind for rek for your opener

[meager void]

if only there was this tool to simulate your character and new gear

[thick quarry]

Does anyone know the stat caps for fury if so can you do me the percentages

[olive wraith]

There are none

[meager void]

try to not get anything over 9000

[hardy cargo]

you have it, thats why reck INTO ava not the other way around

[dusty cove]

I dont see them either. Did they decide they have ruined fury enough already?

[hardy cargo]

with the way I outlined you press avtar it does both reck/ava, but if you press reck you only recklessness

[turbid gate]

which trinket would be better for mythic ovinax? the one from stonevault or the one from grim batol?

[cyan storm]

I just was a lvling an alter warrior and found the new nerfs, god damn it

[onyx isle]

They're at the very bottom.

[tidal willow]

at the very bottom
warriors or the notes?

[summer quail]

here they are, you can see a shaman change got reverted. so ours is still in

[restive narwhal]

Which Dung Weakauras Packages are you recommend ?

[modest condor]

twwdungeons

[restive narwhal]

Thx

[dusty cove]

[thick quarry]

If anyone knows the stat caps on fury for war within can you dm me

[clever rampart]

Hello guys, sorry for bad EN, but can you help me with rotation in aoe? When i use rampage, then bb, then cb, when i have to use execute? I mean on kd or always wait 3 stack of mark ?

[candid hedge]

They really want to break warrior foreverr

I can beat any class in m+, after this i shouldnt beat even the tank...

[calm mantle]

Do we use one of each Authority of Depths and Radiant? or 2 of the same one for weapon enchants?

[kindred swallow]

does crushing blows have priority over bloodbath or? im still used to playing anger management

[somber lake]

after the fury nerfs is arms looking like the move

[calm mantle]

Play what you wanna play. Fuck nerds

if it still performs at a level to do content then play it

[eager thorn]

If you have 3 stacks of marked for execution, or you can gain/refresh ashen juggernaut stacks then execute becomes higher prio, otherwise its p much a filler ability

[velvet canopy]

Is there a reason that the spell reflect WA seems to miss so many casts while I'm playing Fury? It gets a lot in prot, but Spell Reflect stays off cooldown so much when I'm DPS'ing. Does it assume I'm playing with other DPS who know how to kick so it's trying to save for the important ones?

[clever rampart]

AJ i use only in ST build, its mistake?

[fickle wharf]

What piece of hero gear do you recommend taking please ? Head ?

[eager thorn]

Nah thats right

I think wowhead rotation page might be messed up or smth

[eager thorn]

Simming it is the best way to know

[candid hedge]

I prefer to reroll

[eager thorn]

Personally id just wait to get 3 pieces to use curio on 4th

[clever rampart]

And when i don’t have rage, what is better to use bb or cd?

[eager thorn]

Raging blow comes before bloodthirst in prio if you have no rage for rampage, if you havent seen the wowhead rotation page id recommend giving it a look https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[nocturne dragon]

I agree with mudslap, go for 3 pieces then use curio on 4th.

You'll regret very much if turns out maybe you get something free from raid/vault/whatever like maybe chest but you already use curio on chest.

[fickle wharf]

Ok thx alot !

[cedar tulip]

how much does your offhand 2hd matter as fury? do your abilities scale off both weapons or main hand?

[nocturne dragon]

I mean technically it gives extra strength so more or less you gonna hit harder

[dense elbow]

why would you even go out of your way for 4set :p

[oak raven]

The 4set is amazing yo 🤣

[somber lake]

^

[narrow narwhal]

Damage is damage

[mossy drum]

Hi all, what’s the best way to wean myself off using Hekili? I feel like I’m just watching the button prompts and hitting them rather than playing and understanding the mechanics.
I’ve read the guides on wowhead and icyveins and am currently simming around 800k dps at ilvl 604 but never seem to do more than 60%-70% of that when I’m group content so I want to stop using that and figure it out. Got no logs sadly.

[fringe vale]

its not coplicated to understand the rotations, every season/expancion unless some big major rework chan ges ahppens its fairly the same

fury whole thing is building and expending

[sleek badge]

Hello, which embelish do you suggest for Mythics ?

[fringe vale]

with RA after u expend u build with prio skills that do more dmg than others

depending on tiersets etc

sometimes RB comes prio than BT

it can be altered depending on how buffed is one or the other bc tiersets etc

[hardy cargo]

keep the guide nearby and go smack a target dummy for 2 hours to build muscle memory, use the guide you have pulled up to make sure you are building correct muscle memory and gg

(the time might be a bit of an embellishment)

[mossy drum]

Only 2 piece at the moment.

[summer quail]

get an ability tracker, like you can see what abilties you have pressed. easier to see where you go wrong then, and just uninstall hekili

[fringe vale]

tierst doesnt chan ge much tbh

just adds more bt to the rotation bc rampage buff

[mossy drum]

Simple as that I guess, just need to invest some time. Thanks.

[fringe vale]

yeah thats for basic then the resty is fight knowledge

goes for raid and m+

if u know the timers and what the boss is gonna do u know when and what to use / not to use to maximize ur output

same with m+

[mossy drum]

Any recommended ability trackers? Can you Warcraft log against target dummies?

[fringe vale]

u eventually know what packs to unload and which packs to not unload

thats if u wanna maximize

u can always unload everytime on cd

still does fairly good

just remember to not feel discouraged, some people will always perform better than others because of experience and the way they understand patterns etc.
Practice will make u better and better, like anything in life.

[mossy drum]

Cheers. My mate plays and has been playing for years and he’s a Frost DK who smashes me on the list. I had something like a 10-12 year break and only got back into DF and I feel very rusty still.

[orchid dagger]

FDK will also just shit on you for pve

[fickle wharf]

Can anyone recommend me a good war pov in order to learn raid bosses in HM / MM ?

[fringe vale]

@mossy fox is my go to

[hardy cargo]

check the top of the list to see skyhold streamers, theyre all pretty good

personally I like to watch dan but hes not very interactive atm due to RWF

[fringe vale]

dont know any other warrior that does content creation and plays at a good level

tried watching reevez once

i fell asleep

crit keeps the stream going

[fickle wharf]

Thanks ! From what I've seen critcake didn't publish HM videos beside Queen Ansurek

[fringe vale]

watch the mythic povs

its the same mechanics as heroic

tbh no diff at all XD

[barren coral]

whats the talent or skill that makes you do a little dmg spin when you go into avatar or something when using bloodthirst?

[hardy cargo]

if u ever wanna find new warrior streamers at the top of server list on the right hand side of disc theres a ton of ppl live there all the time 😄

[fringe vale]

slayer tree

[hardy cargo]

reap the storm? where you proc bladestorm?

[barren coral]

yes but why does it work with avatar too

[fringe vale]

its the free cast skill from slayer tree

[barren coral]

or is that a different cast

[hardy cargo]

4th row of slayer hero tree in the middle

you are thinking of titans torment

jus below avatar in class tree

[orchid dagger]

Avatar proc OF > Reap the Storm

[barren coral]

i see, thanks

[urban drum]

What do we need to do to get the electricity off our tier set mog?

[stiff barn]

Stop paying your bills

[orchid dagger]

Not use it

[icy badger]

when should i be using BB? like is there a certain crit % we use it? I do understand at times if we have 0 rage and RB or CB procs we wanna use BB or BT but if i get like 3-4 RB procs in a row and i have ramp up do i just ramp and then CB>RB>BB? sometimes i sit at 75% crit cause i keep getting RB procs and then its like i should def ramp

[fringe vale]

go to warcraft logs, look at the top players, select the player , isolate the player so u see only his dmg and skills, then click on casts and on timelines

there you see

a clear representation on when they are using it

youll recognize a pattern rather quickly

[clever path]

how do you get the severed threads buff

that increases your raid dam

[fiery hare]

can someone tell revvez to stop topping dps for few hours so we dont get nerfd :<

[errant vessel]

If they did it like in DF, there should be 2 different versions in your appearance tab with same color but 1 without and 1 with

[summer quail]

not available

[clever path]

ok good thought i missed it

[dry hawk]

He is one of the few blasting adds so everyone else does ST damage

[fiery hare]

i know 😄

we are so done

[azure nebula]

I crafted a two handed axe 636 but i can't upgrade my offhand beyond 619 without crests, is that normal?

[errant vessel]

When no CB and not overcapping rage on ST

On MT just send it

[void wharf]

is 3% nerf also comming through or just soft cap for odyn's fury and roar?

[calm quartz]

3% happened already

[void wharf]

k, just wanted to make sure, my friend talks bulshit

[spark frigate]

There’s another 3 percent potentially coming right ?

[sand crest]

if theres another 3% coming its for fdk or enh

[hardy cargo]

not another 3% on top of the one that already happened no

[buoyant salmon]

no

the patch is still over a month away

more changes will come

for better or worse

[hardy cargo]

worse

[nocturne dragon]

What can we copium on the changes Choco?

[sand crest]

recklessness rework

[buoyant salmon]

the “warbringer” change for arms means that warrior is getting a minirework, warbreaker does relevant damage

[sand crest]

or at least rework of its follow up nodes

[buoyant salmon]

[hardy cargo]

fury too strong back down to 2 stacks of whirlwind instead of 4 for you

[sour cloak]

are they nerfing it to 2?

[hardy cargo]

no lmfao

[sour cloak]

thank god

[nocturne dragon]

no zee relax
We now just playing what can we copium on the changes

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[sour cloak]

im coping that we get legion artifacts and legendaries back

is this a copium overdose?

[olive wraith]

Anni is coming back and it’ll cleave uncapped

[clever path]

they need a 10% nerf honestly, especially enhance shammy

[hardy cargo]

10% is quite heavy handed, while its definitely overtuned 3% much better

[hardy cargo]

if they bring back annihilator I will rage quit world of warcraft

[sand crest]

this is what we need

[olive wraith]

Make anni proc reap

[hardy cargo]

Didn’t the banner build require 100% uptime to work and if you didn’t have super high uptime you were fucked

[eternal sundial]

banner never took off

not for dps

[sand crest]

so did venthyr/condemn

shit was still good

[eternal sundial]

blue coventants were the only legit ones

venthyr incredible simbait though

[olive wraith]

I mean am requires high uptime as well

[sand crest]

I got all 99s on sanctum in hc playing venthyr only

[eternal sundial]

hc logs wow

howd venthyr feel on sylv

[sand crest]

terrible

xD

[eternal sundial]

wdym you dont like playing without a covenant

[sand crest]

massive condemn uptime phase 1 tho

[safe cradle]

Hey does anyone know what the add on is that condenses all the numbers on your screen when you do damage. I hate seeing numbers all over the screen which makes it harder to see other stuff like swirly’s, frontals etc

[olive wraith]

Isn’t there an option to hide numbers

[eternal sundial]

ye a cvar

[olive wraith]

You might have better luck with a Google search.I’ve never seen anyone talk about that

[quaint stag]

Just google wow numbers hidden. I accidentally turned them off before but tbh it was much less distracting

[finite spruce]

Relog and it will fix it

[compact knot]

^

happens all the time with two handers

[tidal kindle]

Writhing band or smth

Writhing armor band*

[buoyant salmon]

i played venthyr s3 of sl

for raid

that shit was so fun

i never progged fights when they were relevant though

one of the world last halondruses god bless

[ancient olive]

using the wowhead single target raid build my damage doesn't feel so great but I also havea specific question abt that build

as an opened am I supposed to pop champions spear, and bladestorm at the same time

or do I use them seperate

to take advantage or rage gen by champs spear

[glad tide]

Anyone having fun playing arms compared to fury?
I only play fury and prot
Saw warcraftlogs and considered trying it out but fury is superfun.

[buoyant salmon]

yeah i love arms

[clever path]

i cannot dual wield argus scythes as arms

thus i play fury

[olive wraith]

Gonna be subjective. I’ve heard people love current arms and people hate current arms

[buoyant salmon]

very similar to how it was in dragonflight season 1

[winter shoal]

They're both on global cooldown so you can't use them at the same time, but you reck > charge > rampage > ava+spear > bladestorm

[plush birch]

Hey all, any able to give me some advice on fury warrior weapons for TWW? trying to decide between charged claymore or charged crusher both with best quality

[ancient olive]

okay I see I should've been a bit more clear I didn't mean same time I meant like following eachother, as in both active at same time

I was mainly just curuous bc I found when I pop both I just immediately cap on rage

[winter shoal]

Yeah, that's fine

[olive wraith]

In terms of damage they’re the same

[glad tide]

Ty all, guess i will give arms a shot

[olive wraith]

I like the claymore mog better

[winter shoal]

Overcapping on rage during cooldowns is not a big problem

[ancient olive]

fair enough

my only issue with that build tho also is like I feel like the damage is wack compared to how well people are saying fury are doing in raid

[olive wraith]

Fury is great at ad burst

We don’t like the ST bosses

[glad tide]

Fury is ass on ST

[plush birch]

so with the correct rotation, i should be hovering around the same DPS? im assuming that that point it would be preference

[ancient olive]

ik listening too closely to tier lists can be a bad habit but why is fury held in such high regard for raid then if the ST is so bad? is it literally just for ads?

[olive wraith]

Weapon type does not matter at all for damage

[fluid cedar]

anyone know if i use two different qualities of the same enchant how it will affect the damage. say i have r3 authority of the depths on MH, r2 on OH. will the damage be a normalized amount between the two?

[buoyant salmon]

bc with how the raid is designed fury works very well for it

also fury loses very insignificant amount of st to gain full aoe

where other classes lose a lot more st to gain aoe

[olive wraith]

Ads need to die too

[plush birch]

and the damage range doesnt matter much either?

[clever path]

yo im just hearing that heroic court was nerfed

[olive wraith]

Weapon type does not matter

[clever path]

you only need 1 webber now

[glad tide]

On some fights padding damage is actually important on mythic, but essentially fury is a padding god

[clever path]

is this true

[ancient olive]

would I benefit just running like my mythic build in raid then instead?

[clever path]

am i OOTL

[ancient olive]

if fury is more aoe orientated

[buoyant salmon]

for every boss except sikran and kyveza, yes

[clever path]

and rash

[ancient olive]

damn okay cool

this changes things for me

in hc raiding I kinda was just like thinking like my damage is okay I guess, nothing that crazy and def not anything like how people talk abt fury

[fluid cedar]

if you're trying to parse and the rest of your team is nuking adds you can go ST on rash. if its prog and adds are a problem you probably still stick with cleave talents imo

[ancient olive]

which I thought was weird since I usually dps p well in mythics

[clever path]

you cant parse on adds anymore

WCL removed it

which is a weirdge decision by WCL honestly

[quick zodiac]

Well not really

[glad tide]

My fight on broodtwister shows me a lot of add dmg, this doesnt count?

[quick zodiac]

People just milk logs

[clever path]

no this is only for rash

[quick zodiac]

And that is prolly the reason it is removed for rash

[clever path]

wouldnt be surprised doh if they do it also for ulgrax

[covert blaze]

people not holding cds for like 40 seconds is probably the better way to play the fight

[clever path]

and dayum they giga nerfed court

now its a joke

[glad tide]

Is this why i am only parsing purple and i am not ass like i thought? 😀

[covert blaze]

adds are not excluded on ovinax afaik

[glad tide]

Do i have to push single target every fight for logs?

[clever path]

no lol...

just said this is only for rash

[copper patio]

you actually have to kill the ulgrax adds

[fluid cedar]

yeah thats why im saying if you are going for a parse and adds aren't problematic, it's likely the call to go ST talents. whereas if adds are an issue and you are just trying to get a boss kill / progression, aoe talents are more likely the call

[copper patio]

rashanan ones die in 3s

[clever path]

your bladestorm on st build is more than enough

cause everyone else will be running some form of passive cleave

[clever path]

this applies to rash too lol, they hurt

which is why im gonna assume WCL will do the same for ulgrax

[fluid cedar]

i think his point is you have to kill the adds in ulgrax in order for the fight to progress as they drop the meat required to drop immunity

[clever path]

sure but the adds on rash will 100% wipe you if not dealt with

[fluid cedar]

whereas rash adds don't technically gate any mechanic in his fight. although you're right they do indeed fuck

[clever path]

they do unhealable dam

end result is the same

[eternal sundial]

i agree with mike wazowski

[clever path]

kill adds or wipe

[covert blaze]

they are excluded so people dont do some giga unethical cd holding

and the adds will die anyway

[copper patio]

i think the argument is that they are kinda free to kill

[glad tide]

Well thats it for me if slapping aoe as fury is bad for logs i can play arms as well for better single target🫠

[covert blaze]

it's not tho

[clever path]

you can run aoe on every boss except rash

[covert blaze]

as youve been told just before

[clever path]

and the obvious st contenders

queen court ulgrax blood and brood

all valid for aoe builds

[glad tide]

But that explains why i wasnt sucessful logging good on rash, ty

[clever path]

having good blood dks in your raid group makes or break your parses

[full hinge]

does anyone know why we would prefer to craft vers/mast instead of haste/mast?

[gaunt moat]

because we have too much haste or tldr

[full hinge]

i mean i do sim

and its dps increase with haste/mast over vers/mast

i just see everywhere its listed as recommended vers/mast

[dense elbow]

Thane opop

invest now

[gaunt moat]

when palaret nerfs

[glad tide]

Better nerf fury aoe to 5 enemies

[gusty lark]

hello dumb question, do i need spark of omens to recraft charged claymore to 636 ?

[gaunt moat]

no need

[gusty lark]

ty

[gaunt moat]

bit of comps that's all

[clever path]

how many gilded crests do you get from +9's

[gaunt moat]

5 if not timed 12 if timed

[clever path]

fuck

and i hate m+

[buoyant salmon]

last 2 on heroic and mythic bosses give myth crests

[clever path]

i know

but its pissant amount

compared to just spamming m+

and the community is even more cringe

[hardy cargo]

keys are fun with the right ppl

[astral path]

615 2200 not getting invited to 7s

[clever path]

aka with a static

pugs are even more aids than raid pugs

mega gatekeepy and they usually suck

[hardy cargo]

static group, or just guildies that u get along with

[buoyant salmon]

with friends/guildies keys are usually pretty fun

[drifting orchid]

do i need another spark to recraft my 619 to 636? Or is just the crest enough?

[buoyant salmon]

doesnt even have to be the same ppl everytime

[buoyant salmon]

just the crest

[clever path]

how hard are 10s

[hardy cargo]

we r so in sync

[clever path]

does everything one shot you

[buoyant salmon]

depends on how good you are

[drifting orchid]

ty

[hardy cargo]

avoidable shit kills you pretty quick, but they arent bad if you arent getting sniped by random swirlies or missing too many kicks

[clever path]

what about unavoidable shit

like the pulsing aoe damage from those rock boys in stone vault

[devout totem]

press defensive cd

[frank vault]

Well, crest + some alloys.

[buoyant salmon]

yeah

crest and recraft materials

no spark is what i meant

[feral ivy]

I feel like dawnbreaker should be labeled as the one of the hardest dungeons because I can’t get one 10 times because people just can’t do orbs correctly from the 3rd captain or tanks not pulling away from puddles in 1st boss

[hardy cargo]

https://not-even-close.com/

choose what ability u want, key level, enter ur char stats and see if it kills

err not ability, which key you want*

[fickle cedar]

People dont buy pots for some reason, they heal you for almost 4M hp and they're like only 30 gold a piece, I use like 2-3 per m+ they will save your life

[hardy cargo]

2/3 of hp heal goes hard

[proper wigeon]

based i reguarly use them to help healers out in raid and m+

remember this quote
You cant expect god to do all the work

[gaunt moat]

i regularly use them because i don't trust healers

we're different

[proper wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-5564322964807878486

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-christian-bale-handsome-gif-13379950

[proper wigeon]

there are two sides to man

[plain ember]

Its actually more like 5-6 mil iirc

Self lay on hands 5 min cd

pretty good

[restive granite]

@dense elbow youre eu right? just read an entire argument between you and a ret paladin crying on the warrior forum asking for us to get nerfed lol

[trim fjord]

Guys, I play M+ almost exclusively, what would you go for, crafted cape+wrist or weappon (ascandeance + wrist which boost weapon)?

[gaunt moat]

it's 3.6 m in tier 2

i sell shit load of them

[plain ember]

huh always feels like full hp

But yeah 4 mil is a lot

[hardy cargo]

ascendance is hard to upkeep in mythic plus, so the other option is your best bet

[lusty monolith]

Is fury any good in keys?

[trim fjord]

ty

[copper patio]

its not that hard if your tank has it too

[halcyon verge]

Alright, sounds like a play.

[spare steppe]

It’s not the best melee but it’s pretty effective up until bigger keys

[balmy mango]

This guy is a pretty big deal

[deft sail]

hi, any1 knows some1 or is some1 that can craft a 2hander 636 weapon? 🙂

[clever shadow]

hey quick question, does Authority of Radiant Power stack if both weapons have it or do we use 2 seperate?

[lusty monolith]

Dang what is the best melee?

[hallow jetty]

best thing to do as warrior is to reroll to frost dk today

[sterile charm]

which piece do u want as off piece? if u can choose

[rigid stirrup]

I'm p sure it's helmet

[sterile charm]

kk ty

[lost saffron]

Why would you do that

[drowsy sphinx]

hands give crit+vers helm give hast + vers

[lost saffron]

Warrior is better in raid

[drowsy sphinx]

i think hands

[hallow jetty]

@lost saffron thats ok tho, warriors can have the raid and then be nerfed over and over because of thier performance in raid

[quiet yew]

Guys can someone please explain me what they mean with softcap?

[tidal willow]

my friends are nice enough to carry my sorry ass since I'd rather play a different game than reroll, but it's not fun to do a fraction of everyone's dps outside burst windows

[tidal willow]

mind a numerical example?

[rigid stirrup]

Softcap is the same as diminishing returns. You basically have a cut off point for stats where you won't receive a 1-1 value

[lost saffron]

We are still better after the nerfs though?

Idk what your point is

[buoyant salmon]

yes theyre great

[willow cradle]

Who cares Warrior still beats a majority of classes on overall damage

[verbal rivet]

Couldn’t be me, that directly cuts into me being a melodramatic wuss. See a class on the nerf, list. Rerolled that day.

[lost saffron]

Gotta love people with the opinions on something they have no idea about

[quiet yew]

Thanks for the answer

[summer quail]

yes, but very cd reliant so overall damage depends alot on tanks

[buoyant salmon]

do i count in this :3

[quiet yew]

Exactly if he only pulls packs with 5 mobs every 30 sec your are doomed

😂😂

[lost saffron]

Unless it's something about tooltips no

[buoyant salmon]

in my defense blizzard has the worst tooltips ever so reading them is a waste of time

[lost saffron]

Not false

[dense elbow]

I do be EU yap

[lost saffron]

When you straight up get misleading or wrong info from tooltips

Not good

[buoyant salmon]

yeah its actually insane how things are just wrong

not just like left out/hidden

just wrong information

[lost saffron]

xddd

[weary sail]

“Why dont people accept me to keys”

[lost saffron]

Too low ilvl

Or score

Simple

[meager void]

The lack of PGF on that sc is telling

[lost saffron]

You are competing with others, if you're not being taken, you are lacking either

[dense elbow]

You guys are not getting invited?

[quiet yew]

I See a Lot of critcakes in this group

😂

[meager void]

10s are somewhat of a struggle but anything 9 or less comes fast (uwu)

[quiet yew]

Yea they choose meta classes over Fury in high keys

[honest sundial]

10s arent high tho

[lost saffron]

I get invites

[dense elbow]

[lost saffron]

625 and score helps though

Xd

[quiet yew]

Damn bro how

[lost saffron]

Raid mythic?

[quiet yew]

Nice

[rigid stirrup]

There are add-ons that tell you if you're hitting that softcap. I forgot the name of it but you'll probably find it if you search stats in curse forge

[covert blaze]

schmoffel very powerful

@lost saffron you on kyveza right?

[meager void]

Lol, only 1-2 key levels bellow world records aint high

[quiet yew]

Schmoffel is the alpha fury

[meager void]

Real alpha times 10s with delve trinkets

[quiet yew]

I bet he did

[meager void]

Btw havent seen a sac over 593

[lost saffron]

Yes but I am benched because I am not home for the week

Cuz noob xD

[meager void]

And my skarm is at a juicy 606

[covert blaze]

sadjj

are you playing fury or arm for kyveza

[lost saffron]

Arms ofc

Fury is straight up int

[covert blaze]

yeah

some people only play 1 spec tho ig

[meager void]

Next people are gonna suggest pawn kekw

[rocky zinc]

is culling cyclone or brutal finish better in low m+?

[nova salmon]

I'm hella confused right now... why am i only reflecting every second Enfeebling Spittle (Zekvir)

Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

[cedar depot]

it's a very minimal difference, i prefer culling.

[vestal root]

i use cyclone on higher keys since its stronger in ST

[rocky zinc]

okay, so probably for me a tyran vs fort difference

its just a low alt and it wont make +10 keys anytime soon

[golden hare]

isn't brutal finish just better?

[cedar depot]

brutal finish barely pulls ahead IF more than 4 mobs live through reck/roar/bladestorm, culling is barely behind and better for bosses

[golden hare]

oh cool

[cedar depot]

ive been running thane anyways this week, decent damage increase honestly

[frank robin]

oh yeah bro purgatory