#fury
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I just OF and BS out of it
Isn’t our average ST dps right adjacent to Aug?
Keys yeah I can see our ST being since we lose a lot less going aoe
They are looking at boss damage in raid
If avg you mean on fights we delete adds, sure
we are right next to frost dk who everyone complains about being op and unnerfed! :)
skibidi
ohio even
People complain about their aoe
looks nice but everything is dealing less damage because you didn't 2/2 attt
Is 50% more TR dam worth the 4.5% overall loss taking it? Probably not.
Bit it is fub
so i spent 100k crafting a wep and now blizzard killed fury xD
dw u can use it for arms
Is it bis for arms ?
Feel like 3 ilvls could do a lot
The embellishment is strong
On a main hand
Not dead yet, patch ain't out
But you can always sim
yep
but then the same people link an overall damage to bosses graph to complain about fury
the most useless data imaginable
Btw, what is your opinion on current Fury. Is it mindboggling or phenomenal strong?
Aura nerf was so not needed
just watch crit video
and upcoming target cap nerfs giga cringe
None of the nerfs were needed
xdd
1st nerfs were needed
💀
i was cool with that
Add 5% damage to rampage crushing blow and blood bath then
meat cleaver buffs when
Ye, I simply dont care. If blizz designed the encounter for us to shine. Then let us shine
jk fuck meat cleaver
Cant believe theres people from other classes going into the warrior forums and posting shit like "Warior is fine with the nerfs" and shit like that
if u dont care then doesnt matter isnt it?
fix main abilities damage for st
Or just let unhinged cleave again, or put more damage into the dots of roar and odyns instead of initial hit
I care about content affected by raid based tuning
not nerf, just needed to flatten the burst. Ret/Frost all have the same/better aoe. Why wouldnt they just make roar/of do more bleeding dmg over a longer time and reduce the initial burst?
Cause at that point just make us ferals with bleed build
warrior is fine, it is questionable whether the 3% was needed, and the upcoming target cap nerf is quite bad, but rn Fury as a spec is absolutely fine
We dont need aoe buffs, we need ST buffs, meat cleaver will offer consistent aoe then anyways

everything is fine when compared to trash players
Its regarding the upcoming nerfs with the target cap. And its not fine, were "decent" because all of the adds from 7 of 9 bosses allign with our cds and damage profile. Im doing 11s and trying to push into 12s and I get gapped by every other class at this level. On damage to bosses were below augmentation evoker
how are we fine
were like that homer simpson meme were he holds all his fat on the back
padding on shitter adds that would have died to pasive cleave anyways
We are not doing less ST dam than aug in keys, I find that hard to believe
Aug xD
Please stop with the faulty data
waow.. buff fury...
i mean, if you look through logs of 11-12 furies are barely being gapped by anyone, oftentimes top overall or losing by a few % to a frost dk
to continue the meme of the parses.
i think ur dooming way too hard, linking bad data, or just being skill gapped in your 11-12s
skill gaped on 12s lmao
hmm
dooming strat is pretty good though
agree, dooming rn is the ony logical choice
Mage spotted 
you don't get it that's the problem if fury isn't #1 what's the point...
Fury do being burst aoe and good st.
They are killing our burst.
That is the problem
erga always right
i will stand down
Wasn't there a spreadsheets that listed things to do week by week? I cannot for the life of me find it
🙇♂️
@dense elbow while doing that they also lowered our st in cleave build by 4.5% give it or take
Hey guys, with the cdr on BS I have been sending it whenever it comes back off CD, is this fine or should I be holding it to line up with ava?
There’s quite the gap till we’re flat
Sure, they are only chipping at the mountain and filling in the valley. But that won't turn it flat. They said before it was flatlands
why does it feel harder to get into keys than DF?
Can we all agree on just playing mountain thane to lower our dps even more, so we get buffed later? 
they are building the foundation, fury will be a monster next exp beta
A flat foundation
ideally you wanna cast 1 bladestorm beetween your reck cd with odyn's fury
why is it even a "?"
Hold if less than 10 seconds till Avatar
Already rockin thane, more fun if you disable details 😎
ty guys
I am glad you enjoy it. I prefer slayer, but I get the joys if you enjoy the more dfs2 playstyle
blizz did just absolutely nail the playstyle of both slayer and mountain thane imo. prob the most fun I've had on fury in a long time
The play style of passive damage
The burst profile is a ton of fun. Let's just fight to not lose it
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/crYKxcmq2dQsus1srCQbkM this mean i have too much mast?
Genuine question. Why do people look at just boss damage on logs and then say fury warrior is garbage? I just don’t understand the logic. The fights are encounters. You have to do all mechanics of the encounter, which includes damaging everything. Shouldn’t the analysis just be damage done on the encounter? These fights are so much more complex than just a single boss. This isn’t classic era tank and spanks. Overall damage throughout, I think, should be the only thing we really care about. Can someone explain the focus on just boss damage? Maybe it’s a stupid question and I just haven’t slept enough.
Fury burst often time contributes more to adds that would otherwise be handled by other classes that take more time to do damage like that than we do. Crit's new video about the warrior nerfs talks about it perfectly imo
Could you link video.. I appreciate that color, that’s the most thoughtful response I’ve seen that isn’t just dooming
They dont (or shouldn't) say fury is garbage, it is simply a problem of how warcraft logs presents data to the masses. Usually within a narrative through WoWhead. So when the people see data that says:
Fury Warrior is the worst DPS on boss damage - they see it as as "fury warrior is the worst damage on bossfights", ignoring our CDs and damage go into killing off the adds.
This goes the other way around as well. Looking at overall DPS and seeing Fury on top - as some fights had a lot of add spawns to pad on perfectly for Fury.
The narrative should be on a boss by boss basis, with an explanation to the ones presented with the data of what it means.
But then, clickbaity headers and drama causing graphs are better for the monetary side of things: more clicks, more interactions.
- The focus on boss damage comes from, it being the thing fury is struggling at using those datapoints - so that is what is brought foward, and boss damage is arguably the more important damage historically. As bosses got to die. If everyone goes full add damage builds, you are going to have a bad time. So that is what is often pushed as the more important even if it looks worse on logs - so bosses actually die.
DPS whores gonna go for the log, bosskill be damned, sadly. So you got to make them want to aim for it and justify it within their log based brain.
Is Mountain Thane playable for M+?
ya
I would say it is, you just need to bring another class to fill your ST DPS loss
worse than slayer tho
Yeah I figured
is there a mastery % you should be aiming for
Cause damn it's way more fun to play with
no
Erga I think you are in skyhold way to often these days
Did you start playing wow agian
no
i miss erga
he is right there
there isnt any soft caps i should be aiming for
I am glad Erga is back, Erga is one of the least toxic regulars 
no
no
i'm super toxic wdym
garen top player
Not really no; there is a "it feels good" point for haste at around 28%, but that isn't DPS based, just play based and personal preference. There are no statbreakpoints to care for really.
erga so toxic he killed sodas mental (played league with him) so bad he didn’t do keys with me

well as fury i should be stacking my mastery as high as i can get it ya
no one said that either
Nop, you want to balance your stats
so my 47% mastery is actually hurting me
no
aintnoway
Could be, but unlikely
you're making it a bigger deal than it is
quite serious
your stat spread isn't some super secret elo potion
allegedly
aiii shibal
If u hit 31% haste u unlock 200k dps
chat is this real
Play Thane with AM, trust - is a ton more fun
Really feeds into the loop and just superstable high AoE
Aswell as literally zero st oly moly
Thane do need some ST love, that is for sure
AM is more fun tho, as Thane, so I would just play for that
soingie warcraftlogs say fury warrio bottom boss damage so no loss really anyway 👍
Warcraftlogs dont say that no?
True! 50% of 1 is 1
50% of 1 is not 1!!!!!!!!
1!!!!!!!!! Is 1!
Good point
sorry that was not meant to be taken seriously i was making things up (my hobby)
Toxic
I hope they nerf us another 3% aura on top
Just so I finally can get to the point where I gain DPS over time, not lose it.
So when you said you dressed up in a maid outfit that was fake?!?!?!?
They wont be happy until fury aoe = their ST
i never said that toby
Your DMs to me tell a different story
hi kitty :3
absurd allegation
banezi refuses to join my keys when i ask him
yeah bonzi sucks!!
Critcake refused to answer my dm when I asked for +10s last week
2 fury warriors in 1 key is too much dead weight
If you have it talented yes

did a key with 2 warriors, actually terrible
zero utility
It does use SD yes, just check on Wowhead if you're curious or in doubt
You either Execute at 3x Marked for Execution Stacks, when Ashen Juggernaut will run out in the next GCD, or if you're on 2 SD stacks
clear comms
Focus up
lock in
Wdym i bring p2w bres and lust 
my biggest secret is that I basically never invite other dps warriors. even if I'm playing a different class. weirdly hard to find good warriors in lfg
never using cc and shit
I had the oposite experience, Fury Warriors just always do at worst decent damage and dont die. Other classes flop and write angry in /p
I do avoid arms warriors tho, as for some reason, they always start becoming super weird in the partychat
i think im probably just extra critical of someone playing my main
i do the same with outlaw rogues
Fair; but if you want your key completed - and we not talking push here, then Fury is just a super solid pick
Like freaky weird?
pick me pick me
Like having you in the party with me 
im always scared of inviting mages though. like 7/10 have no clue whats going on
ive been getting into a lot of 10 pugs now, and its always the tank or healer that flops
You'd love having me in the party
sure
love getting weird on occasion
I never talk except for hi at the start and GG at the end
I don't like chatting in keys
I got a WA that says hi, and I manually type in: Gg, have a good one lads!
Kek
as oceanic i cant talk, otherwise they notice the realm name and say "sorry lag"
I just don't personally enjoy chatting with strangers in keyd
even tho i play 90% of the keys on NA ping
I just wanna get the key done
sorry didnt see it
i like to make my aussie brothers feel at home by calling them cunts
I haven't yet completed a 7 in time 
I dont believe you
I'll post proof when I'm home
Often the groups just disband early on when tanks and healers get into arguments
One time I died a lot and felt really bad
There is no way
But I just don't get many invites
m+ always feel so strange to me

why the fuck should the key break if u dont time it
Most people dont even completed 5s in time
it should only break if u leave it
So your key breaks, if you leave someone elses key?
Did they make it so we can't leap out of the grip on last boss in ara? Tried twice now and just got pulled in both times
u might be able to with perfect timing, but just leap into a pool early
pretty sure it still works fine but you just gotta time it
you will get there
It's rough out here in the EU
Haven’t tried it since yesterday, but you have to be very last second
it free
Done it in far too many keys last week, tried now and just failed at same timing
If not half second
idk now i think its just easier to step in a pull and then interrupt the blob
How do you get invites tell me
pool*
yea way easier
the way i did it is i switched to prot
lmao
farmed io then went fury
I feel like that's the only way for me now
you can always level your key
People with 1k Rio decline from 7 keys
Our guilds BDK bricked mine
I don't wanna talk about it anymore
Trauma, I need like a day off I'll try tomorrow
You had to be there to believe it
Is soft cap nerf on OF and TR is live ?
Which raid WAs pack do you guys use?
its a good thing warrior is strong for m+ guys
i got scared the nerfs would be big or something
not yet
good thing they caught us before season began
Good thing blizzard saw Fury warriors having fun, how dare we
good thing our ST is really good!
I average about the same overall
ist is uver fur mich
causese or reloe
I thought I was just dogshit
we are fine its 1% nerf
These numbers make no sense to me
aug should be S tier
I done runs where I done 1.4mill dps
why does fury goto feel so underwhelming outside of CDs? Its kinda boring outside of CDs tbh
are those just like very dated stats?
It’s 95th percentile probs
Delete this before blizz sees this
that's kinda how the spec is designed atm
did u had an aug?
Why, enh does more and ret too
Nah, mage/warr/ret group
That's fine they're allowed to
thats fromw eek 1 i reckon
Ye, w1 makes sense
well, we dropping we all knew would happen
WHERE WE DROPPING BOYS
Doesnt matter tho - we still bring that boss killing juice
:fortnite:
What site is this
mythicstats
At least on ST I get to feel I can compete
Ur trolling right
Fury is one of the worst class in ST
we're not even that strong on m+ st anymore lol
Nop, our ST is pretty decent
ppl caught up
No its not lol
in M+ yes because SOME classes sacrifice ST
Fury ST is garbo
but its not "good"
nice joke
Fury ST is garbo?
our ST is literally below mid tier
Are you guys using the raid stats again?
Unless u running 5s
idk
Sure
maybe he is
idk dawg im full 10s rn
dont really feel particularly strong in one area or the other
i feel strong on the first pack
thats it
KEKW
No way ur telling me fury ST is good
Fury has great ST compared to other specs when using M+ talents
When you say fury is decent ST, and ppl attack you for it. It gotta be based on raid all bosses boss dam stats
after CDs fury is garbage and if you pug and got a tank that doesnt pull well your dmg will be even worse
What does that got to do with ST?
Well, to be fair, maybe Dean not on that train
But he did comment on it
nah fury St is trash
what
are we all really dropping armed to the teeth for uproar
feelings really don't care about facts
in m+
i feel like im just waiting on my CDs to come back up to feel like im doing something every key XD
Try Thane Dean, AM/Rav build
you will prob enjoy it
It is decent damage too
Just not on ST - actually not.
This looks balanced or am I reading it wrong here.
About the same as Fury, might pull ahead on even higher keys
a braindead frost dk can out dps us
It stings, doesn't it..
its joever
arms colossus struggles against bosses
arms is tanky
literally not true
you have to know what youre doing as frost dk
back to middle of the pack boys 
do you know what this graph means
whats our most accurate sim category for m+ topgear?
thats below middle XD
i like to sim 1t 5mins, dungeon slice, and 8 targets 1.5 mins
and compare results
pls no more nerfs
if youre just simming for stats you can just sim st though
i think it would be better to sim 5 targets 30 seconds so you can see big big number
sorry what does 1t mean
1 target
if they delete fury maybe there will be more tanks :O
ah
We're so back
yeah but have you guys ever thought that if we just play better then we'll be back at the top
Ye, it really caused an outcry
Lol, then aoe fights we're number 1. The duality of fury
fury didnt get nerfed because they did toouch damage in heroic week
copium
I see you listened to Lincc's tirades and taken it to heart. Good
they got nerfed bc of how absurd their aoe burst was
yah but we could be even higher 🫗
a lot of it was padded damage too, we just pad really hard cuz adds die too fast and other class didnt have time to do aoe
Fury is both overtuned and undertuned. Big brain blizz
the issue isnt that its balanced or not
yeah, they got nerfed because they watched critcakes hc queen video
i blame him
its that we're declared "S tier" but eat nerfs after nerfs
I'm already pressing raging blow as hard as I can what else can I do
when the data shows us NOT being S tier
maybe they should buff something we suck at if we are getting unnecessary nerfs :))
but rather just normal
fury really wasn't that OP and the numbers after 2 weeks show when things stabilize
why is boomy, shaman, pally so strong
we were s tier tho
obviously getting nerfed sucks for us getting invited to m+, but i just like big parse numbers. if someone beats me in dps cuz their class is better so be it
remember when people were dooming boomkin
pretty certain theyw ill
yes, for a day
The data that doesnt show add damage, does show us as lower tier.
they got buffed
hi, guys i think i made a mistake, i crafted the sword insteed of the axe, is it too big of a mistake?
and we would have been for the entire tier
they still are, they didnt need to be doomed even at start of xpac lol
the data i sent was m+
now we're fine
not wclogs
which is why we should doom!
we wouldve been omega s tier the whole patch
no you're good bud
OH NO
we are STILL TOPPING ON AOE FIGHTS
IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR
Guys, I play wow 1 month, fury is my first character, can i delete it now?
yes
boomkins are the biggest gaslighters out there
yes
Yes
but they removed add dmg off rashanan!
i wasnt even talking abt raids
i was talking abt m+
we are still good in m+ though
some1 else hijacked my convo
We are decent
we are good
No, you are evil
can you please explain the logs for m+? I dont get the "Point" System
we are dead gg, 3k gold drums killed fury
good on the charts with 0 utility
i havent spoken about logs either
utility doesnt matter
some one posted logs
theres literally nothing i can do to prove to you guys fury is good
if i go do a key with a frost dk or ret and beat them
cuz its not
because in the context of m+ theres classes that do EXACTLY what fury does
buff fury
you guys will say they suck
but have util
Well, morality is quite hard to prove for a spec
or where can we find a List to watch, how bad we are atm ?
nah man we have brez, bop, sac, invul, lay on hands, grip, stealth, lust, .. wait a min thats none of ur utilities
rework fury for the anniversary, remove bladestorm add in grippy hands but it mass charges instead
tier lists are the brain child of clickbait websites and streamers
they dont tell you jack shit about the state of a class
the wcl m+ rankings do not represent damage, its based on the classes being brought to higher keys
i do
@buoyant salmon but why would i choose a fury that has 0 util vs a class that does the same as fury BUT has util?
so, i clearly deal less damage in AOE then all the others, but am #1 in singletarget, how is that even possible
plus lust
@earnest grail because in m+ fury doesnt lose a lot of ST
for rallying cry and bshout ofc
i mean Bossfights like the First Boss in Grim Batol
@earnest grail yeah thats a full ST fight when we dont lose much ST fromt alents
i will omega gap them
Does the player have a pulse, invite them
on demand defensive is also something hunters, for example, would give their nuts for
It is a mist
i get it now, thank you 🙂
even if we are middle of the pack with no utility, that is fine. But stop nerfing us to the ground even more please 🙏
sorry, a bit tired today. My Brain is rotten
I fail to see the point you trying to build?
if you think warrior brings no utility, you really havent oppened that spellbook bra
i just think target caps are cringe really
@dense elbow me or choco?
the tier list already told me fury is dog water I don’t need anecdotal evidence to the contrary
For each spell we have, ret has 2….or more

based
i do say though fury warrior is probs one of the tankiest melee which is nice
just a stupid hamstring has saved my groups
Choco
fdk and ret are very tanky as well
he just on a rant again
so its not like as of rn, fury's tankiness is extra useful
bro you play arms
We all do?
bc i like it
#BUFF THANE
fury gotta be one of healers' favorite dps to have in the group
Arms is fun to play, I prefer Fury tho - so I play that more
I also play prot
You should play all 3 too
does this DPS factor in all the ebon mights buff from aug already? or just raw DPS from aug
besides the fact that we are all stupid
no clue about that
well they would rather choose fdk, tankier and does more damage
Why? Bc they have someone to throw chi cocoon on at pull and pad HPS?
it takes the info from logs
This summary presents DPS parses for Mythic+ keys at level 8 and above, sourced from the Warcraft Logs API. Warcraft Logs calculates overall DPS by dividing the total damage done by the entire dungeon time, even during moments of non-combat. This is in contrast to in-game addons like Details, which often show higher DPS values. For the most accurate comparison of DPS, consider uploading your logs to Warcraft Logs. Increasing the number of logs on Warcraft Logs enhances the precision of this list.
Each spec is limited to 1000 (was 500) runs per dungeon. So 8000 is the maximum amount of runs per spec. Once a spec and dungeon combo reaches this limit, one key above is used as a floor for the period, ensuring that all specs use the same key range.
yes and no, nobody knows if it fully works or not
no cuz we self heal well passively and are tanky as fuck
i dont even know what keys this data is from
1.4m is not the max at all
literally just using impending victory and enraged regen has gotten me a lot of messages from healers after dungeons
theres a disconnect here between the opinions some of you posit and the knowledge you show about the class, logs, etc.
1.4 mil max sounds about right if u average out all the keys
Man, it always sucks when the convo loops
i cant kill ?? zekvir and its blizzards fault
it averages otu the max
how do i make my ilvl shit
its literally sourced from logs though so unless u upload the run where u do 1.9m
i think there are a lot of newer fury warriors this season, which def shows
how would it know that that run existed
i thought people said balance druid are garbage it seemed pretty good
balance is almost always decent in higher keys
You can put your gear into your bank, and it should lower your ilvl for groupfinder - if that is what you are doing?
cuz they did a dungeon and were like woah this 5 second combat that warrior PUMPED i wanna be like them
good enough
boomie was weak in hc dungeons and hc raid
because tettles cries a lot
i dont have any shittier gear to equip that doesnt drop 4 set
but he's the rare kind of player that cries a lot and actually knows his shit
What are you on about now Choco?
Guess Druid dont like their Hero Talent
What is he trying to achieve
who knows
doing a key bout to omega put down frost and enhance
balance keeper of the grove is so nasty rn lol
boomie has always been strong it must be a player thing my boomy buddy always top charts 😳
frost definitely is stronger than warrior
i invited the best ppl
to prove a point?
Yall should stop arguing and start chanting to buff thane
The real travesty here
seconded
i dont like thane
thane is sick
thane adds buttons, buttons are bad
This is extremely wrong
Not enough slaying for me
Vote to kick prideful and delete his warrior
Please let these bad pictures that are wrong die
wait what buttons, thunderclap replaces whirlwind
gg im in brood talents
thanes descrition is cooler than what it actually looks like in game
unlucky
whirlwind > thunderclap 🫣
didn't do a spec check eh
Thane is an enhance shaman from wish or temu
thunderclap > whirlwind and ravager > bladestorm
imagine your specc is worse then Feral Druid in M+
It definetly isn’t
I don’t believe that’s true my guy
I hate it here
idk, why should it not ?
it isnt worse
feral pumps
check the amount of runs
I just don’t think fury is that bad
its shit data
@earnest grail theres 446 vs 3.4k recorded feral vs fury runs
Explain
You’re all dooming to much
cuz it calculates based on uploaded logs
so if no one uploads themselves doing higher
it just wont calculate
😄
uploading m+
feral actually pumps though lol
yea, nobody plays feral cuz it was always bad 😄
which is why u just take this data with a grain of salt
If i have a shit stinky logs i aint uploading that shit
its decent to see "ok ret/fdk are quite strong", but its not correct to say "ah feral>fury"
This
uploading m+ logs ain't no one got time for that
i know, im just pointing out
now its not
I’m happy that isn’t it’s good that they’ve sorted it out
and tbh, i can feel that im getting weaker every iLvL Point other classes can get
ive not gained a single loot drop outside of vault so far. stuck at 610 ilvl 😦
Yeah I know the feeling but I play fury because it’s undeniably fun. Yes there are stronger melees but they aren’t as fun imo.
assa is a lot of fun
Not tried it tbf
but you need to like the Dot mechanics
Been playing my paladin alt and it’s fun but let’s face it there more or less ranged at this point. Not levelled a dk to try it, I’m gonna tough it out and stick with warrior
Assasination is hard to play effectively
i was 4 Exp a arms main, switched to fury cuz of this busted Hero Talentbuilds. Duoing with a Enh. But Bro, i think my decision was wrong tho
100% agree to the range Paladin
You can always reroll mate
my Heart is full of Warrior
planing to tank this season, or do nothing. Already have my 2k+ Score
Then fuck the numbers keep bonkjng you never know we might get some kind of buff.
unfortuantely this fdk and enhance are beans
just coming back and crafting has me all messed up. What's the best piece of gear to craft with my runed crest?
should i just go with a weapon?
hey ya'll are leaping out of the one-shot AoE on last boss in Arakara, right?
weapon is good to craft yes
haste/mastery on the missive(?) is that still what we want. Seems like some things say different stuff and i'm just confused haha. Looking at icy veins bis is different than using something liek askmrrobot bis
i haven't looked at noxxic in years so i'm just assuming it's still garbage
I went haste mastery yeah
Generally just been following the guide on wowhead or asking in here
If it’s needed otherwise I just pool
Had times where I got sucked mid leap
Yea and I got sucked midair by last tick
Hmm
if you just stay on her the entire time your character will get like a mini knockup (the suck) and that's when you jump out. I do the same with transcendence on monk and haven't died to it yet.
when you leap but she keep suckin
I didn’t wanna brick anyone’s 10 keys so I stopped testing
yeah, it only fails if you leap before 1.00 sec remaining on cast
at 0.X, it never fails* (*so far, for me)
fair
Should be nerfed by next week to cause more suffering to warriors
the suck will make your camera jump up a little and that's what i go off of
Can’t be having convenience in this economy
is this corrent? raidbots telling me to go with these 2 trinkets instead of 606 Sacbrood and 593 Shard.
for m+
trust the robot
Does something look off here, got wrecked by a frost dps same ilvl in a SoB +5
dont know what im doing wrong
gotta smash crushing blow more
TR dam looks pretty low
you're using thunderous roar wrong
Do you have the Whirlwind talent?
hey, crafting a cloak with nerubian embelish is bad? i'm broke to craft a bracer :/
these guys were kinda beans tho
thats fine
is whirlwind ever used on single targets?
no
Not really
if youre talented into the whirlwind talents, yes
otherwise you slam
if you cant bloodthirst or raging blow
For me it's weird how some random monk outdps es me
Are there some guides of when I should pop avatar and recklessness in m+?
Almost on CDs, maybe save it for big packs
I send it unless it won't be up for boss
Yeaa but sometimes I fck my boss insta burst
You pugging?
on CD unless pack is almost dead
That’s just how it is then
Or well I can't join guild because I am bonded to this one
So I need to be in discord community or sumthing
Yea but it's hella hard to get in. Like I feel I need to do all +3 to get in +4 then I can advance to +5
That’s a dps thing. You can run your own key for rating
whats the correct way to use Thunderous roar?
Run your own key too
Welcome to pugging. Try doing that for 2 m+ titles
i just talented uproar going to try it in this sv +6
I got Threads and it's really annoying.
Threads ain’t too bad
xD I barely got in a +2 grim batol and carried 2 people with full greens
While having to wait a week for fort/tyran to switch each time
Why?
Cause if you got all 3s on tyrr but had all 2s on fort you hadda wait for fort to get all 3s so you could move on to 4s
I actually like this week. We gotta suck balls instead of having to ask "cc or not cc" (the aoe stun)
That’s not how it works anymore I thought
I’m talking about before
It was easier before
lacking uproar doesn't really explain your TR damage being that low. either you aren't using while enraged and in ava, not casting it enough, or just not hitting the whole pack with it
You get more dmg with TR while enraged?
enrage just increases our damage, its one of the most important things to maximize dam
Huh
My current rotation rn is: blow, blow, bloothirst, blow (if reset), rampage. Sometimes I do more blows be4 b bloddthirst if I have more haste. Is it good enough?
How was having to wait a week easier
like get enraged before you do anything and then keep it up
You didn’t need as high level keys
I think you’re completely missing the point of what I was saying.
if you already consumed crushing blow and bloodbath, and you have the rage for rampage, just use it again. crushing blow is our hardest hitting rotational ability
What’s your point then
teach me daddy
raging blow and bloodthirst are just there to build rage and rampage > crushing blow > bloodbath again
Like are we talking ksm? Or title pushing
You can talk about either one and my point remains the same
Re read the comment I was originally replying to
This?
The person I was talking to. Read their comment
We’re talking about being invited into pugs
what is happening
?
It’s hard to get in as dps period
That is irrelevant
Ok bud
? You said I was wrong but have now said nothing to back up that claim lol
I’m just thinking you misunderstood the point
It was easier to reach ksm the old way
hes talking about title
again that is irrelevant
does any of the weekly quests give the spark or only the main one
i think its just the main one
Pugging to get the title was easier
Well no
Cause you needed lower key levels across the board
You’re wrong
You needed 13s
But again that has nothing to do with it
i can't possibly understand how it would be easier. you still have to be in the same percentile
As opposed to “17s”
The keys weren’t as hard
But again that wasn’t my point
maybe you're not understanding what title he is talking about
That doesn’t matter
You just waited an extra week
He said either ksm or title pushing
Title pushing is diff
if keys are easier, the level gets pushed higher
who gives a fuck
Keys can be 100s or 4s. It’s the same percent of the player base you compete against
the change is done
But this is a whole new argument you’re leading me down
More people are running 13s than they are 17s
Again it has nothing to do with the original point made
These aboms in NW are hella cooked
When was obtaining title supposedly easier?
A 7 
what keylvl?
12
oof
the weekly wants me to progress further in the campaign before i can do the disc thing. im feeling lazy. might just wait for next week to craft
On average probably 17 because the players need to be better to get to 17
i think the other guy isn't getting what title we're talking about
@olive wraith
Lol thats my enh sham guildie there, give him a break
people are doing 17s?
What?
You haven’t said anything right yet lol
You again have missed the entire point I made and are spewing random nonsense about something else
mald
maybe for equinox
How was your ST?
Ok so basically Crushing Blow > Rampage in terms of importance. Then what abotu whirlwind. Should I use it on pulls and interrupt my casts every 4 attacks?
I thought a friend was exaggerating when he told me this but we’re actually doing less boss damage than augs lol
@meager void
i had 50% ebon might with an aug
xdddd
smoge
Relative to last expansion
Something tells me that enh and dk isnt the best ones out there
hello Mastery/haste or versa/mastery for item craft ?
is highmountain thane worse in every way compared to slayer?
i think frost and enhance are better than fury btw
its just like
a big better
not as big as a gap as ppl think
Are they better on boss dam tho?
I kinda feel I catch up on bosses - esp any with some, lets not call it pad
but adds or damage amp that gotta be done
Enhance yes
ballz
i dont know for certainhonestly
Frost yes on cleave I think
i dont play enhance ofr frost at all so idk what thye lose for their aoe builds
All I know is NW makes me beat my ret and mage friends on bosses 100% of the time
NW got good boss design 
try enha on amarth
Frost loses near to nothing to go aoe
Kinda a bogus thing to comment on as a fury warrior.
Wut, Choco said he doesn't know how much they lose yeah
yeah i mean in aoe you should be refreshing it when it falls off
oh fair
keep it up or you just aren't cleaving
to me it was worded like we lose a lot
I shouldve used the amazing "Reply" feature in DiscordTM
Same lol
Max fury is 1.3mil?
Lmfao
Enh also is fucked in 2-3 key levels, they will literally not be able to survive
"Meta" will probably be mage, aug, fdk
time to roll fdk
mage aug boomy for sure
I mean we're just below fdk so that leaves us still in a great spot
I mean this is not news, we’ve known fdk was gonna be busted from the start
Mage, Aug, SP, just you wait
There also will be tuning the reset after queen dies
It was always going to be mage/aug/x
classic
More fury nerfs then?
They coming, dont worry
Bladestorm hard capped to 3 targets does less damage beyond 1
Yeah also they're gonna remove enrage
Didn’t need enrage anyway
youre all memeing now
Removes enrage, makes mastery half value, 100% uptime
but just wait
Yeah cuz we're strong AF rn
We are not strong AF, but we decent - sure
didnt u heard of the best Def CD INGAME?
ive played with some UH dk today and theyre hitting like a truck
their hero talents doing most of the work though
Dmg should scale with how you smash keybinds
it kinda does, no?
Only class ive lost overall to so far is ret
In quickness for fast paced spec y
ive been getting out dps this expansion and ive never had that happen in pug keys
i feel like i do 0 damage without full cds
Ret, arcane, FDK, MM hunter - i lost to a bit of everything really
reckless abandon moment
does dungeonslice work for fury or we sim 5 targets patchwerk?
u are static 1:30 with of and bladestorm being 45 ish
I keep to my old 1t and 5t sims
🙂
toxic
literally type how it feels to do our rotation
ah yes the smell of blizz nerfing my char even more keeps me up at night
nutz even
fastest zekvir wipe ive had
I feel like I'm doing something wrong though my max burst on single target. I am 603, no BiS trinkets and can barely get to 600k, with a 520k sustain. Then on AoE I'm doing great but I feel like I'm doing something wrong still
Because we do
Broo you can solo zekvir. Get bran as healer.
Even with full cds it isn't that great and highly exaggerated
i have him as healer xD
best try i had wa 20
this try zekvir just meleed me to death at the start with brann ignoring me lol
There's decent rng in the fight
You can solo Zekvir's lair tho. Get the thing that heals you when proccing enraged
And the 20% heal
what thing is that?
You have to pre play around spell que or you die
why is the first bigger trash pack on higher ara keys so cancerous
at the spider dude that is hanging on the edge
this aint helpful
The way I did it was sticking close to Zekvir as much as possible because his DoT hurts.
i really need to find a way to use more BBs lol
need to find a way to use more cb
is charged claymore the best weapon to craft for 2handed fury
and if so why (its topend is lower)
anything that is 2h str
it doesnt matter at all what you craft as long as its both of those
weapon dps is normalized
top end damage doesnt matter
Drustlord in mainhand instead of charged claymore of the same ilvl gives me about 20 more dps 🤣
oly moly this is definitely not margin of error
what makes ara kara sacbrood so good?
🪤
Well in any case it gives slightly more damage for each ability
real
no it does not
Yes it does
20 DPS is within margin of error
Unless you're saying the tooltip is just a liar
@dense elbow bro you were actually right



