fury

[short cobalt]

is aoe sim patchwork then 5 bosses?

[hard widget]

Can do that yea

[pearl sequoia]

after crafting 636 weapon ive only lost to a mage

[hard widget]

Unless u want to see 8 targets

Then u do 8

For some bigger aoe packs

[short cobalt]

kk

danks

do u car about fight length

like 2-3min

[hard widget]

Didnt critcake make a video on how to sim? Idk i remember something like that

But i cant find it

[short cobalt]

ill check idk who that is

[hard widget]

Anyways, for aoe u usually use shorter windows of like 1.5 min

[short cobalt]

shall youtube

[hard widget]

And for st usually 5 min

[short cobalt]

got it

[hard widget]

Just think to urself how long does a trashpack live

And how long does a boss live

And also adjust the buffs so u dont have bl for a 1.5 min trashpack type of deal etc

[short cobalt]

thats the info I needed

danks boss man

[regal storm]

But don’t forget, it’s the sims that we’re wrong.

[pastel magnet]

so are we dooming?

[clever path]

[pastel magnet]

I'm still not quite sure how to process the 3rd round of nerfs

like
does this mean It's an arms season now?

[quiet geyser]

reroll?

[pearl sequoia]

just means ur logs are gonna get higher since more people playing arms

[pastel magnet]

definitely not dooming that much personally, I didn't sign up to play the class because of big numbers

but if arms is doing better now I'll swap for my guilds sake

[pearl sequoia]

u progging mythic?

[pastel magnet]

if I was I'd be rerolling

[sudden tusk]

Fury still performs well in the raid becuase of burst aoe situations

however outside of raid it has taken a decent hit

[pearl sequoia]

decents quite an understatement for this coming nerf

[sudden tusk]

even with the target cap nerffing again its not like we will be D tier

but we will be pushed from B to C

[rose bay]

is bladestorming outside of cds correct in keys? it feels so anemic

[sudden tusk]

after the recent nerf

[pastel magnet]

better start practicing arms then, we're on broodtwister rn then going nexus-princess

ngl I wasn't too hot on ST fury anyways

[pearl sequoia]

id say its fine since u get it back pretty quck from marked for death

[pastel magnet]

something about it just feels awkward

[feral ivy]

transmog rate?

[gaunt egret]

Anyone know how crushing blow is the most damage ability?\

[tepid wolf]

what should i reroll ? Huntard ? Paldin ? DK ?

for M+ content

[feral ivy]

any tips on heroic queen?

[buoyant salmon]

fury is good right now

[tepid wolf]

after the patch idk

[buoyant salmon]

yes, hold up to to 10 secodns for your cds

[buoyant salmon]

still over a month away, will have more changes with it

[rose bay]

gotcha

yeah just feels kinda stinky, but it is wat it is

[tepid wolf]

im still keeping it but idk, just in case, idk what to play that can possibly pump the shit out of Mythic +

[rose bay]

dk, ret, ele

dh tanks

[pearl sequoia]

i mean with the gear we will have by the time the nerfs hit

will we feel it that bad

[olive wraith]

Swap to prot

[restive fiber]

ret is fun i like when u pop cd with immune and bl on big pulls it feels good

with warrior i feel stressed from aggro

[pastel magnet]

frost dk is safe

someone probably mains it on the balance team lol

[rain talon]

Anyone have a sudden death proc timer wa that works with slayer talents? All the old sudden death weak auras dont work with the non talented sudden death procs

[rose bay]

maybe we get lucky, and they cut our aoe but increase our singletarget

[restive fiber]

yeah i saw a video of frost dk with 2.1 m overall on a 12 dk is good

[rose bay]

yeah i have no idea why dks not gettin hit

[restive fiber]

if they increase st it will affect the aoe

[sudden tusk]

they cant nerf too severly before they tune the boss

any major nerf to FDK as an example will really hurt broodtwister

[rose bay]

weird

that didnt stop them on warrior lmao

[sudden tusk]

because our raid performance is still fine with the nerfs

in M+ our performance is suffering

[tepid wolf]

yeah 😦

[prisma rose]

dude on my pug, rampage casts on silken

bt

[tepid wolf]

why is there more dk than there is paladins in higher keys ? is it because of damages or more about a lack of utility from paladin ?

[sudden tusk]

thats why

45 second class absolutly CRANKS

[verbal dragon]

who is dnt tug of war stalker?

[wispy dock]

guess we gotta run AM to be a 45 sec cranker class

[verbal dragon]

ulgrax?

[lone sage]

rp lack of utility

what

[restive fiber]

M+ is the most played content why they don't make the balance for it separately like pvp

nerf that only affect raid

[rose bay]

grip is really nice

on these keys

[clever cliff]

buff shadow priest buff fire mage ok 10.27 again

[buoyant salmon]

if utility mattered paladin would be in every key ever

[lone sage]

dont listen to choco

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[lone sage]

he is against utility

[prisma rose]

choco bad

[buoyant salmon]

dk was projected to be really strong before the patch, dk is fantastic in raid all around

[rose bay]

best utility is death

kill it be4 it kills u

[buoyant salmon]

high fotm players prepped dks bc of how they looked on beta

[restive fiber]

we need both but dmg is most

[buoyant salmon]

utility is nice to have but never dictates what dps you bring

[rose bay]

^

[keen kindle]

And did frost get hit?

[lone sage]

only dictates when you are chosing 2 classes with similar dps

[buoyant salmon]

yes

[pulsar quest]

do u guys think transmitter is just a sim trap

[rose bay]

also cockwave would be nicer if stops put cast on cds

[prisma rose]

^

[pulsar quest]

heroic transmitter just dropped

[summer quail]

technically yes, but it was pretty smol

[lone sage]

like no reason to bring a fury over a ret

none

[keen kindle]

Meanwhile evrey patch they nerf warrior dps

[summer quail]

prio damage when aoeing

[lone sage]

there are better classes for that lol

[rose bay]

yeah all 5 targets prioed

[lone sage]

LMAO

[summer quail]

you said ret specifically

[prisma rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[rose bay]

i mean if arms is close in aoe, maybe we just play that for keys

[restive fiber]

is every melee stronger than fury ?

[rose bay]

turbo prio damage

[prisma rose]

feral prob not

[restive fiber]

oh we are that bad xD

[lone sage]

yeah

[restive fiber]

4th spec

[lone sage]

no one will stop and think oh well i need a fury to prio damage lmao

[prisma rose]

^

[summer quail]

i just gave you an example of what fury does better than ret. nothing else

[lone sage]

not enough to justify a warrior over a ret on m+

[restive fiber]

when i group for keys i look for battle rez bl then for a strong dps that can survive

[lone sage]

while ret does everything else better

lmao

[prisma rose]

[uncut radish]

on ulgrax mythic, is there any way around not being able to do dps during the suck?

or is the only option to stay really far away

[summer quail]

i never said anything about justifying warrior over ret. literally all i did was point out something fury does better, which you said did not exist

[lone sage]

i said there is no reason to pick a fury over a ret

[restive fiber]

does better on what ?

[lone sage]

and never knew of a group who picked one because of that simple reason

when a lot of classes do it better

read

[prisma rose]

"i will pick this fury because we need prio dmg"

[lone sage]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[buoyant salmon]

the general wow population doesnt understand prio damage

ret does like 10% less st than fury in their aoe build

from what ive seen

[prisma rose]

qrva with terrible trinkets and lower ilvl, yeah

[buoyant salmon]

fury ahs a burstier profile which means you can pull more dangerous packs than you can with ret bc they have real cooldowns

[prisma rose]

imagine same gear

lol

[buoyant salmon]

which isnt that important

[prisma rose]

and if you want prio there are A LOT of classes better than a fury that adds nothing else

[buoyant salmon]

fury does comparable aoe to ret as well

[lone sage]

😂

[prisma rose]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-we-out-peace-out-disappear-gif-15464202

[summer quail]

i swear choco, these people can't be reasoned with

[buoyant salmon]

if you dont understand the game

just say that

fotm rerollers

it is what it is

[lone sage]

yeah, crit was insane saying that he was getting beaten by a lot of specs

nvm

seek help crit

[steady wharf]

any change to priority when running AM for mythic brood?

[buoyant salmon]

well you dont have crushing blow or bloodbath

rampage highest prio unless 3x mark of eecution execute

dont cap rage

as much as you can

[steady wharf]

ez thanks

[restive fiber]

what if the change this shit

ihate this talent so much

[buoyant salmon]

would be a good change

that talent is annoying as fuck

[restive fiber]

and its so old

why is not changed

[buoyant salmon]

anti target changing talents suck

[velvet obsidian]

Agreed

[restive fiber]

yeah

[summer quail]

they almost made slayer have another thing that does the same as frenzy basically. was big pushback tho thankfully

[velvet obsidian]

S1 SL flashbacks to having to swap targets to consistently enrage, then swap targets to something you could condemn, then swap targets to your frenzy target. That was the one time I ragequit fury and actually rerolled. Came back for S2 on but that build was cancer

[dry hawk]

Where would the 2 embellished pieces go... Prolly wrist/waist?

[restive fiber]

if u raid go weapon and wrist or waist

[dry hawk]

I do raid

So weapon + prolly waist for stats

[restive fiber]

Ascendance is good for raid

and u double the effect with other item

[tepid wolf]

which one is the best for m+ ?

[restive fiber]

i dont know xD

[buoyant salmon]

ascendance is also good

or the lining

duskthread lining i think

idk what its called

[restive fiber]

i think u can play with Ascendance its good for chain pulls

[buoyant salmon]

also good for the bosses

[tepid wolf]

thanks guys

and about prio spells, i saw someone sayingt that we were prio our rage generators over rampage ? except outside of enrage i mean

[tribal flint]

stop the count

revert the nerf

[chrome relic]

farm trash guys

its worth

[left perch]

Good news guys Riku proved warrior should be nerfed and Revvez also is proving it

[summer quail]

boomie as well, never heard of the guy before but he's owning

[left perch]

he’s not tho

[restive fiber]

go to wowhead warrior guide

[left perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261814504556331021/1289009614909870131/image.png?ex=66f74340&is=66f5f1c0&hm=29424ab624e9eb65f8e8e471281400578a924f9fa81f2c9d0106d625331da97a&

He’s sand bagging to save us

[summer quail]

based

[left perch]

THD is also sans bagging sadly

he’s only pressing every 4th global

[cedar depot]

https://tenor.com/view/hero-carefully-he-is-a-hero-fallen-care-gif-27593423

[left perch]

based on what exactly?

[summer quail]

on the dps meter

[covert blaze]

dn

[left perch]

dn the shadowlands leggo??

or doze nuts

[verbal rivet]

If get the 4th ban, I’m locking prot spec forever

I’d eat glass before I played arms

[spiral shell]

what does this mean

[verbal rivet]

Intentionally not doing max damage to not top charts

Gotta dodge those nerfs

[spiral shell]

fr?

LMFAO

[north edge]

nobody here exploiting early exploiting often and crafting rings this week?

[summer quail]

the 3% aura was already overkill. the 3rd nerf is just???

[tepid wolf]

already done and it says not to cap rage, if no one would've say that i would not ask here

[north edge]

ez 636 + 626 rings for 90 gilded crests

[verbal rivet]

Bröther I’m in heroic and not getting M+ Invites

[left perch]

ye sand bagging it doing worse than your class is to avoid nerfs. all the top warriors do it - i also do it (but i think primarily from skill issue)

[verbal rivet]

(We don’t admit it, make it sound intentional)

[spiral shell]

destro lock would top the chart if he tried? i dont see that being realistic

[north edge]

i depleted like 20 +9 keys to get my wep crafted

[verbal rivet]

If they ask, say we can’t read. Only Zug Zug

[spiral shell]

are the mages doing it also? lol arcane is def better than destro

[left perch]

i am definitely grey parsing on purpose intentionally

[tired brook]

just got aotc feelsgoodman

[verbal rivet]

Yes. FiredUp intentionally exploited bugs on stream with weird arcane builds. Part of why they nerfed the spec of arcane that is worse.

[tired brook]

is that bug still usable in rwf?

[verbal rivet]

Noice

[covert blaze]

dreadnaught

[verbal rivet]

Nah, it got fixed that day. This was on Kyveza

Didn’t beat Princess, so it was just not really talked about

[tired brook]

ah i thought you were talking about the hero talent thing

idek what the kyveza bug was

[spiral shell]

sandbagging intentionally is actually 5 head

[verbal rivet]

It’s the hero talent thing, they were just ON Kyveza when he was doing it

[left perch]

Firedup did not use ANY exploit or ANY slightly unintentional bug he is SIMPLY a good mage and perhaps even as good as preheat (but at MAGE) so lets please stop tarnishing any sort of "implied" exploits because to be honest it takes away from pure skill please like FIRE UP

[tired brook]

bros doin backflips on it

its an intended mechanic

[left perch]

he is also not the mage who potentially CLICKED by accident to lose RWF on Fyrakk

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1178808396573581413/Discord_LBLU0RFs7O.gif

[tired brook]

nick was clicking his seeds he was on priest no?

[ember plinth]

the nerf is deserved warrior is too strong compared to the other classes, you have to up cast them, and especially the mage, who with each expansion is very bad.

[verbal rivet]

The “don’t show my screen” part is funny af tho lmao

[tired brook]

this is true

im waiting for the 4th nerf to hit

[copper patio]

Reap the storm next?!

[verbal rivet]

Bladestorm 30%….here it comes

[tired brook]

Bladestorm is too good at breaking webs / killing parasites, should be softcapped to 3 targets

[copper patio]

Imagine shouting really loudly and only 5 people hear you 😦

[verbal rivet]

Wow. Putting a burst DPS check that is root based. There aren’t any root immunity burst AoE skills in the game….Right?

[tired brook]

[verbal rivet]

I’ve accepted my role as Bladestorm bot

Might as well be on Snapchat until it’s back up

Honestly shocked Webs/Broodtwister adds are still on WCL

[young swan]

that was nick and hes a priest

[left perch]

is it your full time job to expose me as a moron or am i just doing it to myself for free

[brittle crow]

how do u NOT click seeds

[young swan]

u do it to yourself for free

[hallow sphinx]

ghuun dead @young swan

[young swan]

[brittle crow]

aren't there like 3 diff "buttons" blizz uses as "extra action button"

so u can't use a macro

[calm quartz]

Right, at what point do you just disable All Star points for any ad based fight

[verbal rivet]

(Didnt play dragon flight, what the seeds do)

[brittle crow]

get seed, save tree

[left perch]

cat stab btw emoji sticker

[verbal rivet]

Based. Ty

[left perch]

shid 😦

[wheat gazelle]

I just wanna say to all you beautiful mfers… thanx for talking me into trying fury it is amazingly fun!

[verbal rivet]

I love ignoring add damage for logs on adds that wipe the raid if they aren’t sent to Jesus at Mach 5.

[left perch]

gajeel do you wanna...

👉 👈

ummmm

[calm quartz]

[young swan]

grown ass man

[calm quartz]

Dont erp too hard

might end up like MoonMoon

[left perch]

who

[pastel magnet]

how many more nerfs before ravager becomes viable

[tribal flint]

I imagine it was someone who just finally got fed up with getting gapped every attempt even though the adds are a significant threat

[stuck sentinel]

Moonmoon is wild

[sour siren]

how does a 606 larynx sim higher then a 613 sacbrood?

[stuck sentinel]

If I got cucked by someone who looked like moonmoon I’d probably just end it all

[left perch]

?

[stuck sentinel]

This

[summer quail]

if you're lower geared damage trinkets will be more of your overall

[dusty anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[sour siren]

im 612...? is that considered "low geared"?

[summer quail]

that's like mid geared i'd say

[verbal rivet]

Oh for sure, this just makes people not want to target adds bc it’s now a DPS loss. Can’t wait to have a mage yell at someone in a pug raid about their parse being ruined.

[elder vessel]

I wanna reroll but I don’t wanna go through the gearing phase again

[summer quail]

if you enjoy something more than what you are currently playing you reroll. will get more enjoyment that way

[tribal flint]

#StopWarriorHate

[left perch]

is liquid or echo doing the most thing

[restive peak]

Neither team is killing this boss before nerfs

Did you see the 5 acolytes?

Even if they get through it, they'd have people eating 5m per sec by the next spawn

[burnt stone]

[runic violet]

rasahanan with TR or spear

[restive peak]

Trolling your team to parse is disgusting

Do your job on that fight, adds need to die bruh

[remote bobcat]

^

[restive peak]

On like week 6 go for a giga ST troll parse

[remote bobcat]

Dont parse while bosses still wipe you

if that parsing means u troll ur group

KEKW

[keen kindle]

You're a special person to parse during prog

Like...very stupid

[remote bobcat]

a raiders job is to ensure the success of the group

[sullen dove]

spear

[remote bobcat]

..bruh

I guess you can spear on heroic and normal rash since adds die insta anyway (depending on group)

[feral ivy]

just killed heroic queen... ngl her 3rd phase is easier than i thought

[tired brook]

yeah most pugs are a p1 pug fiesta

[summer quail]

ye p1 is the hardest part

[tired brook]

killed heroic queen an hour ago as well

[feral ivy]

with pugs?

[tired brook]

yeah im aotc full pugs

[sullen dove]

think if you get to second set of adds in p3

[tired brook]

me no guild

[feral ivy]

yea crazy

[sullen dove]

its clusterfuck

but most ppl killin before that anyway

on heroic

[runic violet]

I've seen silken 6%...

[remote bobcat]

you should join one

[runic violet]

no queen yet

[tired brook]

ive been looking for one lol

[remote bobcat]

I recommend joining casual guilds if ur not into mythic prog

[tired brook]

im into mythic prog

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/tichondrius/cringename these r my logs rn im tryna get higher with pugs but sometimes its hard when you have a high parse and group ilvl % is like 25%

sikran was a 30 man liquid split it got kinda hectic

[summer quail]

you should apply to low level mythic guilds, like those that haven't gotten CE before to get some experience

[remote bobcat]

I mean the thing you need to join good guilds

is recent logs

[tired brook]

i've messaged a few people from the recruitment server, i guess its just trial and error

ya

[remote bobcat]

good guilds dont c are at all otherwise

since ur just one of many

[tired brook]

im trying to get 97% on every boss as a start goal

i'd like to 99% eventually, but on st bosses i dont think thats possible without st trinks

[remote bobcat]

join guild groups for heroic bloodbound

if u wanna maximize dps

[tired brook]

plus i don't know arms cuz i just came back to the game + dont have any warrior experience

[remote bobcat]

they tend to be less chaotic

[tired brook]

i have some learning to do fors ure

[left perch]

Question does

Liquid max play

or is he just upper manager atm

[remote bobcat]

KEKW

[tired brook]

i mean xesevi is raid leading rn max's been benched

[buoyant salmon]

max doesnt raid prog, no

[remote bobcat]

He calls the shots except for some miniscule stuff

[buoyant salmon]

max also does strats for the guild

[remote bobcat]

also trying to protect his voice rn

[buoyant salmon]

and probably some otehr shit i dont know

[rich jasper]

hey guys did we already complain about aggro on ovinax or nah?

[remote bobcat]

wdym complain

ur a warrior

[left perch]

I mean I can’t talk shit I’m just wondering if he’s bench or in or what

[remote bobcat]

go play safe or die

KEKW

[buoyant salmon]

hes the raidleader

21st man

[rich jasper]

play safe kekw

[tired brook]

in pug groups i do all the time

[left perch]

Usually I think of raid lead as “playing”

[tired brook]

im the main tank for every spider add every egg break

[remote bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/real-spider-man-sad-walking-rain-gif-1924155781469686297

[tired brook]

i try to give them 2-3 seconds before popping cds but it just doesnt matter bro

i just get meleed so i use all defensives as eggs break

the shadowmeld opener is broken for it

[feral ivy]

about to start mythic prog.. we did like a hr on 1st boss and was just .. kinda hard lol

[rich jasper]

hadnt had that much headache with aggro since shadowlands tbh

[remote bobcat]

I kinda like that though

[rich jasper]

really?

[tired brook]

Its fun to an extent, in my pug runs i have aggro until they die

[remote bobcat]

I like more threat

[tired brook]

tanks just ONLY taunt swap boss and never take spiders

[dense elbow]

Just be bad like me, never have an issue

[remote bobcat]

because it rewards groups with thinking players

[tired brook]

W

[remote bobcat]

e.g. tanks holding cd's to get aggro quickly

and uh

dps playing into that

[buoyant salmon]

raid leaders havent been in the raid in multiple seasons

[rich jasper]

brother when I press everything and am about to pop the fuck off I INSTANTLY die

so annoying

[buoyant salmon]

for top guilds

[young swan]

basically upper management

[tired brook]

i was really hoping this was the pug kill ^

this was around 18% ish

never been able to get that high ever since

[remote bobcat]

Can we talk about how our ovi parses depend on bdk or no bdk

😔

[feral ivy]

is this queen?

[young swan]

hes like the CEO that makes decisions and stuff and tells people what to do and then takes all the money

[tired brook]

brood

[feral ivy]

ah ok thank god

[tired brook]

i fucking wish i was doing 1.8m on queen

[rich jasper]

insane strat to start on parasite's side on hc reclears

big add # = big dam zug zug

[remote bobcat]

real

[left perch]

I guess that makes sense. I didn’t realize he wasn’t also on the ground. Not that I don’t think he couldn’t do well, just I guess I thought he was in roster and making calls. Modern wow is…weird

[tired brook]

on the ground?

[buoyant salmon]

he was playing in the raid until bfa season 4

[tired brook]

should he be flying?

[left perch]

actually raiding

[tired brook]

ah i see

[buoyant salmon]

innovated the outside of the raid raidleading and got world first

has been meta ever since

idk if anyone tried doing it before idk wow lore that much

[dense elbow]

They prob should turn off adds on that fight then. Ass spawn min max sounds very degen to me

[left perch]

is it working for him since liquid always loses or

[rich jasper]

it is extremely degen

[young swan]

he does make calls just bad ones most of the time

[dense elbow]

Someone go to logs discord and have it turned off

[left perch]

who is echo CEO

[young swan]

scripe

[remote bobcat]

raidleads for many years being in the game too
group becomes insanely more successful with him focusing on raidleading by dropping the focus on his character

ya no thats weird

KEKW

[tired brook]

im a big liquid fan but in terms of raid leading scripe is way more calm and accurate

calm being the big one

[left perch]

So modern wow is not “play plus raid lead”

TIL

[remote bobcat]

it is

just not when theres money on the line

[tired brook]

it is

[remote bobcat]

obviously

[tired brook]

ye what they said

[left perch]

It obviously is not

[remote bobcat]

imagine formula 1 except the shots are called by the driver not the team

[left perch]

if he’s not in the raid

[young swan]

the 21st man thing is pretty much exclusively a rwf idea

[remote bobcat]

success would go down

[naive swallow]

and now , fury is dead again in M+

[tired brook]

this guy has some INSANE rage bait potential

[naive swallow]

back to the 5 targety days

yay

[tired brook]

was dead before the nerfs my friend

[naive swallow]

omfg that hurts even more

[tired brook]

we're just cemented as worse than other melees now

the higher the keys go the worse fury gets, havent tried arms maybe it's better sustain but no reason to take warrior > dk/ret in m+ now

[remote bobcat]

can you not generalize the entire game based on the top 0.01% maybe?

[naive swallow]

and arms isnt even a thing , sadgely

[young swan]

theres a critical mass where once keys get high enough fury is jsut broken again

[left perch]

?

[young swan]

once u start getting multiple sets of cd's

[tired brook]

fair

i don't think i'll be running those keys tho

legit dont know if im good enough + no m+ group

[naive swallow]

like , instead of gutting fury , i'd say , maybe they should fix the hp of the mobs in 5th boss

instead of just killing the class once and for all

i get it , changing "8" to "5" is an easy enough job for them , jesus christ

[remote bobcat]

in general the problem is that theres too many squishy mobs

[runic violet]

this

[remote bobcat]

m+ and raids both

[naive swallow]

that's exactly the prob they gotta fix

[runic violet]

because fury eats up little ones... making our dps lookg bloated

[remote bobcat]

it unnecessary rewards classes that are fast at aoe

[tired brook]

i'm sure blizzard will buff us after season has been out for a while but as of right now we just have to suffer being worse than others

[remote bobcat]

unnecessarily*

[tired brook]

if they're basing early season tuning decisions off of WCL we'll eventually get buffs again

just hope it's a net positive gain B)

[remote bobcat]

probably not

[runic violet]

we will be buffed post season and nerfed again at preseason

[remote bobcat]

we'll go arms nmost likely

[rich jasper]

fury's performance is masked by that fact adn blizz thinks the class is broken when FDK still does the same thing with a few more seconds

[buoyant salmon]

literally none of you know what youre talking about

this is insane

[naive swallow]

i'd be totally fine , if there's instead of 10 squishy spiders to kill , 4 larger mobs in replacement so noone could kill them in 3s shows up

[rich jasper]

AND has a way better sustained dmg profile

[buoyant salmon]

NONE of you guys are saying anything smart/relevant

all of you are wrong

unbelievable

[naive swallow]

but it's too much to ask , imagine them FIXING the game

[buoyant salmon]

factually not true

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[buoyant salmon]

factually not true

[naive swallow]

too much to ask these days

[left perch]

choco "wish I was xeos" wonka

[olive wraith]

Just like how we got buffed DF season 1 right

[buoyant salmon]

for top end guilds bc raidleading is easier outside of the raid

raidleading and playing at a high level is very very hard

[left perch]

i don't doubt

[remote bobcat]

play devils advocate, why dont ya

[left perch]

i just did not realize the change tbh

[buoyant salmon]

scripe is outside of the raid as well

your goats echo copied the strat

[buoyant salmon]

these adds are not squishy on mythic

idk

[left perch]

my goats

[tired brook]

how is it factually not true outside of end of season when the absolute highest level of keys are being ran to what xantage said, multiple cds are up in packs

[left perch]

im not even russian

[buoyant salmon]

you said as keys go higher fury gets worse

you just said as keys go higher fury gets better

[tired brook]

it does

[buoyant salmon]

gg.

[tired brook]

?

sorry.

[buoyant salmon]

you are dumb

you are wrong

[left perch]

thanks ok

[remote bobcat]

in +11 +12 keys you have adds that die extremely quickly still

while others in the same pack

outlvie them 20-fold

[left perch]

i didn't know max can't parse is all thats all i asked and unfortunately we learned that he's good at google docs OK my BAD

[rich jasper]

google sheets best spec

[naive swallow]

now it's like , we dont have much dps in burst no more , and we dont at all have dps in things that lives

[tired brook]

?

[naive swallow]

pinnicle of warrior gameplay

[tired brook]

did you misread my post?

[naive swallow]

2024 , what a great season to start

[tired brook]

i'm quite positive it says the opposite

[buoyant salmon]

its not even end of season keys

[tired brook]

idek what is happening anymore you have to be a z-tier ragebaiter

[buoyant salmon]

fury is doing good in +10s-+12s

fury is performing well

[tired brook]

classic both sides of the fence so you have to be right 50% of the time

based

[buoyant salmon]

you are just wrong

[remote bobcat]

like above average I'd say

[rich jasper]

can we agree that part of fury's performance in raid is due to timings?

[remote bobcat]

that is factually just the case

disagreeing with that is dumb

KEKW

[olive wraith]

That’s the issue hahah

[rich jasper]

no YOU are dumb

[olive wraith]

The timings make us look great in raid

[rich jasper]

oh wait we agreed

[tired brook]

argues that fury is great in keys and im wrong

plays arms every single key he does

[remote bobcat]

bro

[tired brook]

🙏

[dense elbow]

Factually untrue, cause it is not about the timings. But the output fury can do in such timings.

I love half true answers

[restive peak]

I play fury every key

[tired brook]

fury can "perform good in 10-12s", but if you're categorizing fury as a melee dps as "good", there are other classes that are performing "great" per your scale

[restive peak]

Fury is phenomenal in keys rn

Not really

[left perch]

@restive peak hey bb

[restive peak]

Hai bae

[buoyant salmon]

i main arms bc its fun

ive played fury and topped meters

with being shit at this spec

but i guess im just playing against shitters always

[dense elbow]

K

[buoyant salmon]

unlucky

[rich jasper]

well yeah but for me it just seems that, if I time the first couple ones right, I can almost full send cds and hit every important thing I should be hitting

[remote bobcat]

make the timings 10 seconds worse on each dmg window and fury dps drops a shitton

[left perch]

is anyone a better storm forger than Linc

[remote bobcat]

KEKW

[left perch]

or nah

[buoyant salmon]

in the raid? i agree for sure

but they perform well in m+

[rich jasper]

yeah I mean in raids yeah

[buoyant salmon]

if the raid had 2 minute timers fury would be beans

[tired brook]

will fury be good in m+ after 5 target softcap or is the dooming unneccesary? going to play it regardless because i rolled this class since it's fun

[rich jasper]

well yea that's why I find this nerf to be so bad cause like, wont we feel like shit when the next patch drops and we have 2min timer encounters?

[left perch]

who is the white hoodie guy

Saying random shit

[tired brook]

thd prolly

[rich jasper]

and every other class that is ok go up caus they are actually balanced

[dense elbow]

It is another slap, we still will be able to do 10s no worries

[restive peak]

We will struggle if the 5 target thing goes through with nothing given elsewhere

[left perch]

Nah this is some announcer type not thd

[restive peak]

For right now, we're very strong

[remote bobcat]

in a premade group pulling really well it'll barely be noticable

[tired brook]

i hope so

[remote bobcat]

in pugs its gonna be

uh

yea

[tired brook]

in my 10 stonevault this premade pulled every single pack up until the 2 golems in front of boss and lusted

we lusted and died, but in that scenario the nerf will def be felt

[rich jasper]

I would instantly shit myself

[tired brook]

it felt manageable tho

[buoyant salmon]

fury will be pretty fucking mid/bad, the planned nerfs are egregious without any further changes

[left perch]

not this guy the other guy

[buoyant salmon]

but i dont think those nerfs are going live

[rich jasper]

It does til it's not, that's the thing about the cc changes right

[tired brook]

if the guy has gunnar glasses its thd

[tired brook]

unlucky

[left perch]

it 100% is not THD

[buoyant salmon]

he means this guy

[tired brook]

oh

[buoyant salmon]

idk his name i forget

[remote bobcat]

thats xalatath

:)))))

those who know know

[left perch]

XALAFOOT

[olive wraith]

Feet?

[left perch]

is it really

[tired brook]

hes kams

pretty sure he used to be on limits raid roster?

[left perch]

who is limit

[remote bobcat]

oml ur obnoxious

go eat protein

[left perch]

thd is my sand bag king

[dense elbow]

The only limit I care about, is the enforced ones on our burst damage

[remote bobcat]

did yall see rivenz

[left perch]

they are talking about LK as if no one cheated that tier

wtf

[feral ivy]

has anyone done ulgrax

mythic

[left perch]

I mean, yea

[olive wraith]

Ya liquid did it last week

[feral ivy]

i mean here..

i just need tips lol idk if i should be throwing my cd's or saving for add phase

[left perch]

Wallife did

I think

[olive wraith]

I’m pretty sure you send

You can go look for logs to confirm though

[left perch]

they died

liquid

hes not fired up

[sullen dove]

absolutely saving for adds

they're chunky

need to die in a semi respectable amount of time

[rich jasper]

@feral ivy

they all save

[remote bobcat]

for parsing you save

if ur group has insane aoe dps and doesnt struggle at all

then u can reconsider

[rich jasper]

fair enough

imo you save til you feel you dont have to

[remote bobcat]

^

[buoyant salmon]

use on the adds

[remote bobcat]

regardless

if u wanna pump

and impress

u save

[rich jasper]

if your group is lacking ST dmg and destroying adds, sacrifice a bit of your parse and just send

and kill the boss, that's the important thing

for now 👿

[charred barn]

well, this WW cap freaking blows

[feral ivy]

thank you i was in mid fight so couldnt look it up

[rich jasper]

no worries, fuck 'em up

[next sparrow]

How big of a dps loss is anger management on fury

For aoe

Is it a lot

[left perch]

Is @buoyant salmon the son of a certain winks

wonka

Or

[runic violet]

I wanna play AM too

[eternal sundial]

Gain in aoe loss in st

[next sparrow]

I just dont know war sims

[eternal sundial]

IIRC

[sullen dove]

dude why cant i even see the timing of when adds spawn

on rashanan

like

usually id see when ppl do damage to adds like that

to see what cds are up

but bcuz they're gone i literally dont even know

braindead wcl devs

[rich jasper]

well

try looking for infested spawn casts maybe?

[sullen dove]

guess i gotta look at boss casts wow ☝️ 🤓 yippee

yeah

(was typing that before you said that nerd face not aimed at you)

but yea game sucks

cringe wcl clowns

altho not sure what im lookin at here

if thats 5 sets of adds happening back to back to back

or its just not being tracked properly

[eternal sundial]

@sullen dove unfiltered damage

[rich jasper]

here

[eternal sundial]

Toggle that on mby

[rich jasper]

should be more visual

[sullen dove]

👑 🧎

[delicate yacht]

hey @restive peak what do you give up to take shout in keys ?

whats ur build

[left perch]

hey @restive peak⚔ what do you give up to take shout in keys ?

[restive peak]

Give up?

You mean for rally? It's easy to take

Like I can't even see what you'd take otherwise at that point

[sullen dove]

shout is the fear

[eternal sundial]

Not talented

[storm rune]

I really wish we weren't forced in to taking pain and gain, that would be such an easy drop

[restive peak]

Oh either way, I don't see anything you'd take instead

[storm rune]

just make a stormbolt -> shockwave pipeline

[restive peak]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGghZYgZmNYYGjhZMzMbbzMmZmNmZMzMMDb2mhZGDAAAEmxy2ALgJYGmAjthN

[serene vessel]

lols fire is good now guys

[eternal sundial]

Doing fury damage lmao

Dogshit spec

[sullen dove]

spriest 😭

[feral ivy]

Is anyone else just massively getting lag during raid? Like during the most important times I just get lag my screen freezes

[eternal sundial]

Had it wednesday but a relog in raid fixed it

Cuz it was 100% no my pc

[crude gate]

NERF FURY FFS!!!! its too good

[stuck bison]

For me it is mostly fps drop fights like ansurek ovinax etc

[serene vessel]

ur lucky, a denmother would have done much worse.

[storm rune]

nothng funny going on with your addon memory?

[feral ivy]

Show your deaths

[lucid onyx]

hey guys do you know if nerubar palace aotc deadline is 11.0.5 (blackrock depths) or 11.1?

[left perch]

???

[serene vessel]

11.1

[onyx sphinx]

does anyone know if we should be using authority of the depths on both weapons or radiant?

[lucid onyx]

ty

[feral ivy]

Ngl I’m seeing that’s normal for keys I can’t get to pally dmg

[supple badger]

You can try lowering the specs in raids in options

[crude gate]

yea i was being bitter, enh and ret both out perform fury in all content right now

[feral ivy]

I put graphics on 1 lol

[feral ivy]

We got a whole month till nerf so they might change their minds or even better buff us … I’m just trying to make my self not cry

[crude gate]

i really wouldnt count on that.

they dont tune around m+. only raid

[stuck sentinel]

@600ilvl…

What kinda keys you running pal

[feral ivy]

Never thought of that

[crude gate]

did you not notice 1 m+ comp being bis for 3 seasons in dragonflight?

[stuck bison]

Guys need more posts agaisnt the aoe cap nerfs in wow forums us/eu . Please log in and leave a comment like "stop nerfing us bastards"

[feral ivy]

WRONG I saw a warlock in tgp lol

[serene vessel]

that was just a 5

[quick zodiac]

Did not see If anyone answerd but u want 2x depths for pure st 1depth 1power for some aoe and double power for aoe

[onyx sphinx]

cheers

[slow wadi]

I was in a NW+7 yesterday. I have 2 set. Ignoring last boss, since I was sent down twice, I did 920k overall. A blood DK did 924k. I mean. Outside if CD's I cannot do more than tanks...

[delicate yacht]

yeah i meant the fear, okay got the build, thanks !

[weary sail]

has anyone here done zekvir ??, post brann nerf, can u show me how? boss melee just destroyed all my health

[chilly plume]

I wanna die

[tidal kindle]

@tardy lark me and subti (rogue) had our free land here

Then the Dks started invading...

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2261288946?t=2h22m10s

Just look at that king of curses mf

AND THEN THE AMZ

[bleak fox]

just reroll retri, press buttons in no particular order, slam divine storm and profit

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/biKms.gif

[bleak fox]

[tidal kindle]

Show me the swirly

Where is it

Any see-ers?

[buoyant salmon]

dogshti boss

[sullen dove]

would be able to tell if you didnt have a ww weakaura in the middle of your screen

wtf is that placement

[tidal kindle]

It's not there

It's under the hunter pet

I walked INTO it

To get out of DK dnd/abom limb

[sullen dove]

xdd

[tidal kindle]

[tidal kindle]

Everyone wants ot stack on ass to not get parried

All swirlies go there

I stand up front and eat parry

Everyone comes up with me

[tidal kindle]

@sullen dove

[sullen dove]

what we lookin at

the egg not getting broken?

L other orange guy

[tidal kindle]

Dks

Stealing my real estate

When all I wanna do is see...

Have squatter's rights gone too far?

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925837396342362182/1289049562916323420/Yellow_wollywog.webp

[sterile stirrup]

people talk so much about assassination rogue, but what it prings but damage?

[prisma rose]

just one of the best skills in the game

iron wire

[sterile stirrup]

what it does?

[prisma rose]

15% less dmg for 8 sec

[sterile stirrup]

wtf

[buoyant salmon]

utility doesnt really matter

[prisma rose]

here he goes again

[sterile stirrup]

yeah right

[chilly plume]

I FUCKIN DID IT

[prisma rose]

dont mind choco, he is troll

[buoyant salmon]

they have been really really good since 10.1.5 bc of their amazing damage and prio damage

[sterile stirrup]

i figured it out

[buoyant salmon]

iron wire is great but it doesnt work on bosses and a lot of priority targets so its not super super insane

[sterile stirrup]

most deaths on high m+ are not from bosses tho

and you can spread that

so yeah, 15% is a lot

[tidal kindle]

Infinite CC

Stealth

CLoak

[prisma rose]

it aliviates a bunch a heavy pack

[tidal kindle]

Feint

Wire

[buoyant salmon]

depends on key and tunning

[tidal kindle]

Poisons

Good damage profile

[prisma rose]

enrage cleanse

[buoyant salmon]

soothe can be useful yeah

not very often but can be

[tidal kindle]

It's really useful in the few spots you'd want it

[quick zodiac]

True, well mainly u die from mobs cause bad cordination with kicks or hard to see shit in Big packs frontals etc

On bosses stuff is usually hella clean and easy to dodge

[tardy lark]

ive resorted to just walking 360 degress around the boss during those intermission things

[prisma rose]

specially when the pack have a lot of mobs

having many of them doing 15% less dmg is huge

[soft merlin]

did we go from top dps to mid/bottom or am i tripping?

[restive pewter]

when do m+ start dropping myth gear

or is the only way to get that out of mythic raid

[molten wing]

only from the raid

[chilly plume]

the only way to get it from M+ is for a +10 vault

[molten wing]

and the vault for m+ 10

[restive pewter]

oh right

good looks

[rich eagle]

What talents do u guys run for zekvir on fury warrior?

[delicate yacht]

the multi target raid

the ? zekvir is not a challenge

[inland fractal]

honestly I just tried zekvir.. and I still cant do it on ?? dif because the cast go out too often and I dont have kick yet ready

[wraith wharf]

you can bladestorm / pursuit the dot off

if brann is set to healer he should dispell every second one

[inland fractal]

so you dont kick the dot at all?

[wraith wharf]

correct

[inland fractal]

because the dmg I am getting is insane even without the dot, every melee is 3.5 Mil

[wraith wharf]

you might need to leap to get out of range so you can charge for pursuit

[prisma rose]

? no

?? kinda is

[inland fractal]

yeah I think ill have to wait for a bit for gear.. basically if rng is shit he crits twice and I am down at 613. Which doesnt happen often but hte fight is long

[lost saffron]

It's not a challenge if you are challenged yourself

[plucky ice]

? zekvir was like a trash mob with bad gear lmao

[wraith wharf]

i did ?? at 610 so it is possible... for some reason after the first 10 seconds it feels like his melee damage goes down

[lost saffron]

@clever belfry show foot

[inland fractal]

I had him down to like 80%, Brann forgot to heal and I got 2 critted 😄

[wraith wharf]

no potions on the ground?

[inland fractal]

not where I could reach them in time, he somtimes jsut dosnt do anythin else than just bonk my ass so the dmg goes out fast

[wraith wharf]

i will say i ran a 4/4 earthmother curio, it did save me a few times

70% of your missing health has a shield

[inland fractal]

I mean it would be doable now.. but Ill wait one or two lockout and pray they dont nerf fury 5 times in the meantime 😄

[lost saffron]

Kill it as arms

Easier anyways

[plucky ice]

any of you killed him as prot?

[marsh rapids]

Dont think you can after Brann dmg nerf

[orchid sparrow]

Are we guys talking ‘bout this zackvill stuff

🫡

[wide scaffold]

if I sim 1mil and barely do 770k on ST then there is something fundamentally wrong on my rotation or so no? :X

[quick zodiac]

Either that or uptime

[wide scaffold]

kinda of new to fury so no idea,
I see people doing much more damage with rampage than me, should I be waiting on using it after bath or as soon as I can?

[forest swallow]

Rampage to keep your self enraged.
Otherwise Crushing blow

Rampage is not your primary source of damage

But its your only source of the Enrage buff

(excluding, Odyns fury with that one talent)

Its a big priority list

[sour frigate]

144p

[sullen dove]

timed this 9 city somehow

[orchid sparrow]

Can’t BloodThirst make us enrage now?

[sullen dove]

fury bad

[forest swallow]

It does

But you should Rampage before Bloodthirst

And if you cant Rampage, you're bloodthirsting likely

[orchid sparrow]

I am not sure does the first target hit by BT guaranteed a enrage still work

[forest swallow]

Thats a talent too

[orchid sparrow]

Ah i see

[forest swallow]

Thats called "Fresh Meat"

You don't really use this talent.

Unless the Fury warrior gods deem so

(they dont currently)

[orchid sparrow]

🫡

Thank you sir

That helps a lot

[forest swallow]

Just a fellow warrior wanting to do damage just like you

[lost elbow]

Wait,BT doesnt give a chance anymore?

[velvet leaf]

it does, the talent increases chance

[lost elbow]

I waa just confused, not in front of a pc.

[forest swallow]

Yeah

Bloodthirst still can

Its still important too

[golden drift]

the rotation change with 4 set bonus somehow ?

[forest swallow]

I dont know

Probably not, its a really insignificant increase compared to other set bonuses currently

It dosen't influence the rotation since it just enhances it naturally.

From the best of my knowledge*

[orchid sparrow]

So it just like a normal buff tho ?

[forest swallow]

Yeah

Its a nice increase

[orchid sparrow]

Hmmmm

[forest swallow]

an increase is an increase

[golden drift]

so the idea is rampage to keep enrage up all the time and raging blow-(one or two times depends of proc) bloodthirst enrage and if we proc execute we press execute prior bloodthirst ... something like this

[tardy lark]

its sadly very small

[south kayak]

Buff 4p

[orchid sparrow]

Since 4p require to refresh RB, does the Crushing blow add by Rampage count?

[forest swallow]

This actually taps into something I dont know

[tardy lark]

any of the guides linked in here will tell you though

[forest swallow]

My confusion is when we're in the start of a pull of a single target boss

Do we just do Rampage to Crushing blow on repeat if our rage/resource allows us to?

Then Bloodbath if we can crit?

[tardy lark]

yea basically

you could also just do full S3 DF rotation and just use ramp-cb-bb-ramp

[orchid sparrow]

I just press button since we just got 4 button to press 0.0

[forest swallow]

Yeah they're just 4 buttons

But its gotta be in the right order

[orchid sparrow]

BT RB RAM EXE

[forest swallow]

I like to squeeze out every bit of damage

nooooo

[tardy lark]

optimally fury ST is very hard to play

[forest swallow]

Ramp, CB, BB EXE

[tardy lark]

but just doing DF S3 rotation will get you almost there

[orchid sparrow]

Damn one day if i can I got borrow you hands when i looking for the +10

[karmic lark]

guys i have a question while playing fury, do i use Rampage whenever its available or do i use both crushing blow and bloodbath before moving on to the next rampage ?

[golden drift]

@tardy lark DF S3 rotation ? have any changes (i am new warrior player)

[forest swallow]

You usually do the second option.

[tardy lark]

plenty of changes - all covered in the guides linked in #dps-faq

[forest swallow]

It all depends on if you're Enraged.

Not on its availability

[fervent yoke]

How much better are paladins and dks now

[storm rune]

ret's pretty good

[forest swallow]

Shhhhhhhhhh

They dont exist here.

[summer crater]

Simc basically seems to do this most of the time

[orchid sparrow]

I remember, according to the guide, if the enrage buff is gonna runout, do rampage

[tardy lark]

yeah its mainly during lust and/or reck that you are able to chain ramp-cb-ramp

[elder vessel]

Idk but I’ve been gapped by both tonight

Ret never runs out of damage which seems just crazy for keys

30 second cd on wake of ashes and wake gives you 10 seconds of wings

Literally damage every pack

[orchid sparrow]

Since the wings become passive

Ret become easier

[summer crater]

Basically the sustained of thane while having better single target than our slayer spec

[storm rune]

the only difference is how you stagger OF in aoe

And CB is the new BB

[orchid sparrow]

hmmm guys would you do me another favor

Idk where to find the spell reflect sheet

[storm rune]

https://tinyurl.com/TWWreflects

[orchid sparrow]

Thank you !

You are another life saver

[add 1000 anima from my pool to urs]

[echo garnet]

Is there an actual target cap for the root on champion's spear?

[warm crag]

Don't think so

[quartz tulip]

me and gang bout to slam this mists key

[high echo]

is the explusion beam the knocback on the 2nd phase intermission?

do you legit do not get yeeted if you spell reflect it?

kinda crazy no?

[sinful mantle]

Yeah, just spell reflect it and keep zugzugging

[high echo]

amazing

[warm crag]

What fight is that

[high echo]

ansurek

[warm crag]

Huhhh

Perhaps I am a noober after all

[tidal kindle]

Spongie? NOOBER

[vague copper]

What the F should I do.. Keep invest time on the warrior or go on with my WW monk.. The desire is gone when I logg on my warrior.

[brittle crow]

hot take

enjoying video games is good

[vague copper]

Yeah and the problem now is I enjoy my warrior but blizz.... And how will it be? ><

[brittle crow]

play pink class

never be bad

[high echo]

hes too dangerous to be kept alive

[tardy lark]

meanwhile pink class has been pretty bad to mediocre for so long

[vague copper]

Have not tuched that one since... well 10+ year or so 😄

[brittle crow]

im leveling monk rn

its fun, but im tempted to just play pink class

[tardy lark]

monk wanting all haste now is giga weird

[brittle crow]

haste best stat

[tardy lark]

going from haste being close to a dead stat to it being the best by miles is pretty funny

[vague copper]

Yeah, you can rly tell when you get a hasteprocc or lust

So smoth 😄

[raven glen]

Is there any reason why a crafted axe is simming way higher than my crafted sword read it didnt matter

[errant vessel]

Any way to tell how many killed Ulgrax on mythic before parses are locked in?

[chrome plover]

likely missing something, like embellishment, wrong stats, wrong ilvl, youd need to link the sim for someone to know

[raven glen]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/feKF3P8XxTRv8ABr9yYGAv

[rich veldt]

So arms>fury again in st? Or

[stuck sentinel]

Always has been

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-meme-astronaut-gif-23926290

[chrome plover]

that is weird hmm

someone more awake than me can maybe see why

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eWpSFn2VaY22q13UsXFDos

but if you look at mine it's the same (within variance)

[quick schooner]

Guys i played warrior with my friend . I had better gear but we where doing the same dps . I dont know i feal the dps is lacking .

Mythic plus

[rich veldt]

Hahahah just came back to warrior so was just checking

[tardy lark]

honestly looks like Mandate RNG lol

in the axe sim, mandate does on average 5.4% while on the others its below 4.5%

[chrome plover]

axe procs mandate better confirmed?

[tardy lark]

Thats actually a hella funny coincidence if thats why

[tardy lark]

CAUGHT

[raven glen]

Yeah that would be crazy if thats why lmao

[tardy lark]

its the only explanation i can really see

[radiant plank]

Mandate crit