I really wish they just showed overall/boss dps instead of the dumbass tier list
#fury
tulip swallow
warm crag
can we get the jeventestv tier list tier list please
lusty jungle
Bear druid dps in m+ > me on fury
covert void
Right now we're okay in m+. below the classes it states.
spare steppe
Because the nerfs don’t make sense
covert void
the issue is why nerf us again?
hard widget
can we get the jeventestv tier list tier list please
Warriors super Saiyan tier
buoyant salmon
just need good talents
covert void
and it's disappointing to be below ret and other classes when we were just as good a week ago.
plucky ice
great utility much damage
tulip swallow
Buff slayer to let you shockwave during bladestorm 
covert void
If you looked at that tier list for the week, based on data, and had to guess at which class was getting another nerf no one would say warrior.
plucky ice
hammer and fear utility is good man
clever path
Buff slayer to let you shockwave during bladestorm <a:pepestorm:1051916963477200...
Let us do everything during bs xd
indigo arch
Channel hearthstone during bladestorm
feral ivy
wtb a tank that doesnt die to stupid stuff and wipe the group because they think its tyran week
hard widget
wtb a tank that doesnt die to stupid stuff and wipe the group because they think...
It is tyra week tho
blissful delta
^
buoyant salmon
guys again the changes for 11.0.5 arent final
glossy burrow
much much % hp did commanding shout gave in earlier expansions? like 30%?
feral ivy
It is tyra week tho
my key keeps dropping to fort week 😦
hard widget
my key keeps dropping to fort week 😦
Fort week is at +10
covert void
guys again the changes for 11.0.5 arent final
Nope, but it's massively concerning they have planned to do those changes, that they even made it into a ptr in the first place.
hard widget
Or well, fort and tyra is at 10
tulip swallow
they aren't final yet but if we don't say anything they will be
covert void
they aren't final *yet* but if we don't say anything they will be
this.
feral ivy
Or well, fort and tyra is at 10
yea its fort till 10 then its tyran but im getting crappy 10 keys so it drops to 9 back to fort where im gettting the tanks that run in and BAM death
tulip swallow
You can count on one hand the number of times they've raised the target cap on an ability instead of adding or making it smaller
it basically doesn't happen
clever path
Imagine getting a nerf on the anniversary patch, that's says it all
indigo arch
They're not final just let us getting fucked happen
hard widget
yea its fort till 10 then its tyran but im getting crappy 10 keys so it drops to...
No its the other way around
feral ivy
hard widget
Or am i tripping now
indigo arch
Another season of mediocrity at best.
warm crag
They're not final just let us getting fucked happen
im personally asking for more nerfs
feral ivy
it does
warm crag
fort and tyran rotate weekly under 10s
hard widget
I usually do above 10 or 10’s
feral ivy
mmmhmmm
warm crag
ok
indigo arch
It's only ok when caster comps are meta
wooden gust
im personally asking for more nerfs
Just let them nerf us so hard they are forced to rework us so we can be broken for that season
sullen dove
hard widget
<a:chatting:1266019851743399996> heh yeah guys don’t know this thing cause I’m s...
Its week 2 day 2
😦
feral ivy
week 2 DAY 3
warm crag
Just let them nerf us so hard they are forced to rework us so we can be broken f...
yknow tww was our rework right
hard widget
Im eu
glossy burrow
did a +6 in time 😎
hard lily
Dunno bout you guys but I like swinging two big sticks and nothing will dissuade me
sullen dove
yknow tww was our rework right
quiet geyser
Getting accessible shockwave was our rework
warm crag
oblique trail
glossy burrow
fury has been kinda the same since legion right?
damn i LOVED legion fury
compact siren
I like to squeeze shockwave in to my st rotation
glossy burrow
the execute phase 😽
compact siren
So strong
covert void
the step up from 9 to 10 feels significant for sure, a challenge in pugs.
compact siren
Shockwave crits make the world turn
hard widget
I tried a 12 NW today, i got one tapped by the first boss through d stance. 2m overkill
feral ivy
i got a question do yall pronuce it like fyuree or furee.. i do furee to troll
hard widget
I was shocked
lusty jungle
Furii
sullen dove
fjuri
oblique trail
furry
lusty jungle
glossy burrow
https://tenor.com/view/sheppy-shisha-shisha-sheppy-husky-maid-gif-21097707
I have a furry classmate it's insane
feral ivy
is that our WW
compact siren
Mr Banezi can you kindly
feral ivy
https://tenor.com/view/sheppy-shisha-shisha-sheppy-husky-maid-gif-21097707
this is exactly how we ww
oblique trail
glossy burrow
this is exactly how we ww
basically looks like this since it does 0 dmg
restive granite
honestly on a second thought im happy they nerf fury
i hope they nerf warrior more
i need to touch more grass
and if i stop playing the game probably i will
hard widget
i need to touch more grass
Sounds more that u need help rather than grass tbh
glossy burrow
grass helps
glossy burrow
true
quaint elbow
Instructions unclear, went to touch grass and smoked it instead
covert void
I need skar trink but stonevault isn't enjoyable.
restive granite
its a full set except the helmet right?
feral ivy
get better
glossy burrow
its a full set except the helmet right?
yes and boots are t9 content i think
lusty jungle
Night elf female warriors only
feral ivy
just waiting
polar roost
warir
lusty jungle
Change to tank, invite healer and 2 dps then swap to dps
torpid dagger
anyone else having issues getting accepted to anything lately, warrior hard bricked
marsh agate
Change to tank, invite healer and 2 dps then swap to dps
Big brain 🧠
feral ivy
anyone else having issues getting accepted to anything lately, warrior hard bric...
welcome to warrior
torpid dagger
welcome to warrior
it was fine up to today
lusty jungle
Because the word of "warrior nerfed" hits meta noobs harder than actual nerfs
glossy burrow
wowiworr
echo stump
when are they gonna nerf broken dks ?
torn cobalt
Never
torpid dagger
might have to build mine at this point, cant do shit
torn cobalt
But warrior is still strong
velvet leaf
fdk obliteration okay? or just breath?
spiral shell
fdk obliteration okay? or just breath?
Both are good I think breath pulls ahead though
inland condor
WHen is the next fury nerf?
spiral shell
WHen is the next fury nerf?
Today, -6000 aura nerf
dapper goblet
soon
torpid dagger
my rogue thats like -7 item levels below, not even close to stacked gear, way worse score, is getting accepted into keys warrior was insta decline
pretty much sums it up
dim pecan
Are you being declined or is the key just filled and delisted
velvet leaf
big sad
feral ivy
we have no lust no br no massive "thing" to bring to m+ so thats why we will get declined over anything else
velvet leaf
the only thing we had was dmg
torpid dagger
this morning was fine, got into some 8s
feral ivy
warlock-br mage-lust DK-BR pally-BR druid-verse
torpid dagger
now im declined 5-6s
lusty jungle
We have eachother and the friends we made along the way
warm crag
you're probably being declined cause theres 100s of other people applying to the same keys as you are ye
torpid dagger
yeah same dung, same levels
i wouldnt be moaning and asked if others was having issues
makes 0 sense for me to just make up something
to randoms in here
acoustic anchor
now im declined 5-6s
I just posted a +7 grim batol, had problably over 50 people apply to it
When the group filled I had a couple of whispers of ppl asking me "why decline"
olive wraith
These are dps issues
quick zodiac
People need to realize in 10s especially easy once
ornate gust
anyone else having issues getting accepted to anything lately, warrior hard bric...
yup.. ages in the queue
quick zodiac
There is 100s that wanna get it
torpid dagger
will read after this key, about to start
quick zodiac
Dont take it personal
acoustic anchor
Dont take it personal
This
ornate gust
I am 620 ilvl with 2.3k rio.. cant join +7 keys 🤣
acoustic anchor
Even in lower than 10s, if its a wanted key like ara'kara or grim batol
You just really need to stand out if u wanna get lucky enough to get invited
feral token
you think fury is gonna lose a lot after this nerf inc
warm crag
if it goes thru ye
quick zodiac
I got 2.4k score 617ilvl I got problems getting into 10s
cursive sierra
i lost my wife already
quick zodiac
But 9s are insta invite basically
warm crag
i lost my wife already
i lost that guys wife aswell its fucked up what the fury nerf is causing
quick zodiac
if it goes thru ye
If this shit becomes love we are fking doomed in m+ Frfr
warm crag
not just m+ king
velvet leaf
raid will be okay because our dmg profile fits perfectly (hence the nerfs)
warm crag
fury's brought to raid for burst aoe i dont think itd be semi okay
olive wraith
Swap to AM for keys
sinful spoke
LETS FCING GOO
quick zodiac
fury's brought to raid for burst aoe i dont think itd be semi okay
Well u need 1 warrior 
warm crag
oly gz king
quick zodiac
Please dont bring prot
warm crag
Well u need 1 warrior <:copium:839076283467431956>
ye arms is fine
velvet leaf
that warrior can be tank
warm crag
can play that on all fights
quick zodiac
I will never play arms
Told myself I will reroll if we get shit on to much
Prolly boomy time If this goes live
warm crag
caster sounds good if you care abt m+
velvet leaf
hunter's doing alright now with the buffs
olive wraith
I hardly ever see Hunter
acoustic anchor
fury's brought to raid for burst aoe i dont think itd be semi okay
Blizz: makes raid with low hp mobs with high aoe burst potential
Players: bring a class that deals with low hp adds pretty efficiently
Blizz: wait dont do that...
warm crag
Blizz: makes raid with low hp mobs with high aoe burst potential
Players: bring...
i mean the first 2 nerfs didnt impede on that niche too much
we're still the best at doing exactly that
this nerf is a month or so away if it even goes live so prog will probs be over by then
acoustic anchor
Yeah true. First 2 were pretty alright all things considered
But theyre still beating a dead seal
warm crag
i mean the ptr nerf is just weird
serene vessel
this nerf is a month or so away if it even goes live so prog will probs be over ...
doesn't mean it isn't concerning that they'd even make these changes tho
acoustic anchor
I mean would anyone at blizz even play warrior
warm crag
who is turning knobs on warrior that doesnt know the talent names nor what they do lol
feral ivy
i wonder if i can tank a +8 necro with just a 596 shield
acoustic anchor
Kinda hard to balance a class you dont understand well
warm crag
wabreaker very specifically does like zero damage why is it being target capped
serene vessel
it almost lowkey reads like some intern got mad he got gapped in a key by a warrior and slipped it into the PTR to fuck them over
acoustic anchor
wabreaker very specifically does like zero damage why is it being target capped
I thought patch note said damage reduction (which is even weirder tbh but still)
warm crag
we're talking abt the same thing
quick zodiac
Only reason roar is good
warm crag
im talking abt soft cap target reduction
quick zodiac
Is bcs it does a lot of dmg on 8
quick zodiac
reroll to arms pol
It feels so slow
buoyant salmon
its the same apm
quick zodiac
buoyant salmon
bc you stack haste and have a haste buff every 30 seconds
quick zodiac
Idk I am no arms main
buoyant salmon
not copium i play both specs
quick zodiac
But when I learned arms st
acoustic anchor
Tbh im sure enough ppl will whine on reddit and the forums for the nerfs to not go through in the state theyre currently posted
quick zodiac
It did not feel like the same apm
acoustic anchor
Tbh im sure enough ppl will whine on reddit and the forums for the nerfs to not ...
Still a month away
buoyant salmon
wabreaker very specifically does like zero damage why is it being target capped
not sure honestly
if i had to guess (this is extreme cope and a major stretch) they are gonna make warbreaker hit hard with a minirework to warrior
i cant think of any possible reason why else they would make that change
serene vessel
thats a certain level of cope, why would they put those changes out before even hinting at a warrior rework lol
clever path
Just watch a noxiv run, how tf does he play +12 key with no plater no spells tracker he's insane
slim coral
wabreaker very specifically does like zero damage why is it being target capped
Placebo
buoyant salmon
thats a certain level of cope, why would they put those changes out before even ...
i agree but idk why else they would do that
warm crag
if i had to guess (this is extreme cope and a major stretch) they are gonna make...
lmao
buoyant salmon
Just watch a noxiv run, how tf does he play +12 key with no plater no spells tra...
fury is pretty easy
warm crag
we are grasping here
serene vessel
i agree but idk why else they would do that
again my theory is a dev got mad he got gapped in a low key and targeted fury
buoyant salmon
we are grasping here
for sure but it just makes no sense otherwise
slim coral
if i had to guess (this is extreme cope and a major stretch) they are gonna make...
So warrior rework confirmed. Ty for refueling my cope meter
acoustic anchor
Someone on blizz got beat by a Fury and now his pissed
Some dude that mained ret pala in 2004 became lead class design
quick zodiac
The DF change
acoustic anchor
Mad that warriors kept taking his chicks
quick zodiac
clever path
fury is pretty easy
It's not a fury things, it's common gameplay like he dont have importants spells centered around is char and he use default nameplates
buoyant salmon
some ppl play like that
quick zodiac
Nah I am just so pissed rn
buoyant salmon
out of comfort or otherwise
warm crag
It's not a fury things, it's common gameplay like he dont have importants spells...
with enough memorization you dont need special nameplates
clever path
That's kinda impressive compare to the amount of set up people have
acoustic anchor
Mad that warriors kept taking his chicks
(E-girls that were actually just men e-rp'ing in goldshire)
quick zodiac
And doing this after
buoyant salmon
the 3% is fine honestly
buoyant salmon
should it have happened? no shouldve done something else but calling it absurd is wrong
also these changes are not the final 11.0.5 changes
buoyant salmon
they dont suck on aoe though
quick zodiac
Getting a small nerf with blade + odyn
slim coral
Not rn no
quick zodiac
And then another 3% without testing the nerfs
buoyant salmon
and they still have a great niche
buoyant salmon
the planned changes are insane and will almost certainly not go through without compensation
olive wraith
Did you see how much fury gapped everyone in raid?
slim coral
But this nerf on top of it is more annoying than anything
quick zodiac
Our st is already bottom
bitter palm
if i had to guess (this is extreme cope and a major stretch) they are gonna make...
same with troar and odyns but it sounds like turbo copium to me xd
serene vessel
It's not a fury things, it's common gameplay like he dont have importants spells...
you also gotta remember some people got ingrained to play with default UI because blizzard used to have weird rules surrounding UI in tournaments. I know a lot of pvpers used to practice without addons because blizzcon tourneys required stock UI for their arena tournaments
warm crag
And then another 3% without testing the nerfs
how do you know that
slim coral
Also fury was pretty bad in DF s3 outside its burst
quick zodiac
Well we had lower dmg on bosses than aug last mythic week
slim coral
Which is kinda where fury is now to some degree
quick zodiac
Think those stats are a bit wack cuz aoe builds
bitter palm
Also fury was pretty bad in DF s3 outside its burst
was very similar except it had st xd
buoyant salmon
fury was great in the raid in s3
quick zodiac
But we defi like bottom 5
slim coral
Yeah in raid but not m+
buoyant salmon
it did the same st as we do now before the nerfs
warm crag
Which is kinda where fury is now to some degree
yeah that tends to happen if fury is brought for burst aoe and then tailors their cds around burst aoe
wrong response
buoyant salmon
its the same exact thing
slim coral
I play both m+ and raid so
warm crag
Well we had lower dmg on bosses than aug last mythic week
meant to respond to this
clever belfry
bälle
bitter palm
mfs nerfing fury in m+ icant
clever belfry
In raid the nerfs don’t matter sure
I mean they eo
slim coral
I mean they eo
I mean I don’t really feel the 3 percent nerfs
clever belfry
I play with dmg numbers off so dunno buddy
slim coral
Everything still dies pretty fast
clever belfry
But 3% is 3%
buoyant salmon
But they shit on us in m+?
we are still good in m+ currently
and still good in the raid
fury is in a good state right now
clever belfry
we are still good in m+ currently
Id say fine, good is a bit overstepping it
quick zodiac
If we get that roar nerf
buoyant salmon
the changes proposed with no further updates are insane
quick zodiac
We are doomed in m+
serene vessel
we are still good in m+ currently
good is a lot more of a relevant term for m+ than it is for raid imo
spiral shell
fury is in a good state right now
LMFAO
buoyant salmon
Id say fine, good is a bit overstepping it
definitely good wdym
buoyant salmon
they dont do fantastic aoe but they do solid aoe and great st
serene vessel
smaller group sizes makes relative strength A LOT more important for m+
why bring fury over a FDK
slim coral
But higher up we kinda get gapped by other specs now
buoyant salmon
thats just not true though
slim coral
Frost dk unholy dk
buoyant salmon
from what ive seen
serene vessel
its absolutely true.
quick zodiac
I am doing/gonna be doing higher keys
acoustic anchor
why bring fury over a FDK
Why bring warrior at all over a ret?
Even before the nerf
buoyant salmon
ive seen +12s with fury on top
quick zodiac
I don’t see how I am gonna get invited without a premade grp
buoyant salmon
ive seen +10s +11s with fury on top
consistently
theres no way everyone else is just that bad
quick zodiac
Yy I am getting top
acoustic anchor
I don’t see how I am gonna get invited without a premade grp
Push your own key
quick zodiac
Rn
night relic
im getting invited to 11s quite easily
olive wraith
I don’t see how I am gonna get invited without a premade grp
Again. This is a dps issue not a fury issue
buoyant salmon
getting constantly gapped by fury
slim coral
ive seen +12s with fury on top
I’m sure I could probably dig through vods and logs to show but for now I’m eating dinner so I will point out some issues later
buoyant salmon
theres like 6 specs in the game that are all really really good
serene vessel
ive seen +12s with fury on top
you can be on top, but there's 0 chance a fury warrior is above a FDK unless the FDK is undergeared or bad at high keys
quick zodiac
Push your own key
Yes I am
bitter palm
if u do more smaller pulls fury gets gapped
quick zodiac
But I wanna be able to join aswell
pseudo marlin
guys good news
quick zodiac
Ik it is hard but ye
bitter palm
static 1:30 in a world of 30s cds
slim coral
Crit is already losing to his paladin friend
bitter palm
"paladin friend'
slim coral
For example
buoyant salmon
you can be on top, but there's 0 chance a fury warrior is above a FDK unless the...
depends on pulls
bitter palm
is the best m+ ret
acoustic anchor
Joining other keys is hard on any class
pseudo marlin
fury getting nerfed and now we're going all the way from B tier up to C
bitter palm
qrva fucking cranks
pseudo marlin
good news!
acoustic anchor
Some are easier than others but still
winter shoal
Put some respect on qrva's name
quick zodiac
Crit is already losing to his paladin friend
Well rn we lose against alot of other specs If they are equally good as us
bitter palm
his ret looks good even when ret is absolute shit
slim coral
Guys I don’t follow the EU players ok relax lmao
bitter palm
(early df)
quick zodiac
And If that roar changes comes we are kekw
slim coral
I only know of Crit and Reevez outside I know nothing about eu players
acoustic anchor
Guys I don’t follow the EU players ok relax lmao
Believe it or not, straigth to jail
slim coral
Well rn we lose against alot of other specs If they are equally good as us
That’s my point
serene vessel
depends on pulls
i mean they have similar CD timings as us, the only way it depends on pulls is if every single pull is exactly 1:30 apart
buoyant salmon
frost obliterates (lol) small pulls
slim coral
Of course skill difference exist but I’m talking about players of equal skill
quick zodiac
That’s my point
It is sad tbh
slim coral
Not choco against some Timmy
torpid dagger
I am 620 ilvl with 2.3k rio.. cant join +7 keys 🤣
okay yeah thats like near me, might just be a queue bloat reasoning then
buoyant salmon
we lose to maybe 5 specs overall
quick zodiac
The only chance u got
buoyant salmon
enhance frost ret sin arcane
quick zodiac
To beat like a fdk atm
buoyant salmon
you can lose to
quick zodiac
In overall
slim coral
enhance frost ret sin arcane
Unholy as well
quick zodiac
Is If he suck ass
winter shoal
To beat like a fdk atm
balance, ele, maybe mm
spiral shell
Im scared to re roll, I think a lot of stuff will get buffed/nerfed after worth 1st
winter shoal
balance, ele, maybe mm
I meant to respond to choco mb
verbal dragon
for macor
serene vessel
unholy good not that good
nah unholy is actually popping off in higher keys now
slim coral
Fury just needs a rebalance tbh that’s all
torpid dagger
Im scared to re roll, I think a lot of stuff will get buffed/nerfed after worth ...
ive slow built other chars, just cause how people react to nerfs
dense sedge
what macros are essential that i need
Mouseover's are great for things like kicks and stormbolt etc
serene vessel
i dont play dk so I dont know why but it seems like it just needs ramp
slim coral
Or they need to decide what identity they want it to have
Because we never win in 5 targets or even 8 currently
Unless the ads insta die
buoyant salmon
nah unholy is actually popping off in higher keys now
i agree theyre good
bitter palm
its cuz
hard widget
We slap on HC week wdym @slim coral
buoyant salmon
from what ive seen they just arent quite consistent enough
slim coral
We slap on HC week wdym <@137623498351837184>
True!
buoyant salmon
but ive only seen unholy in a key like 3 times though
so not big enough sample size to say for certainty
slim coral
from what ive seen they just arent quite consistent enough
Watch the new vod on raiderio
hard widget
I had an unholy in +12 NW earlier
slim coral
Of the 13 times
hard widget
He clapped
acoustic anchor
u cant do qll
Not with that mentality
slim coral
Unholy is very consistent with dps now
buoyant salmon
Watch the new vod on raiderio
link in dms
slim coral
With their rework on cds
buoyant salmon
at work ill forget when im homr
forest owl
cant believe some guy that spams chain lightning is hot on my heels with -5 ilvls >.>
eager thorn
amogus
odd star
u just inspired me to gear my uh dk, are they much worse than fdk rn? i havent seen uh dks in a hot minute
slim coral
Unholy is BiS right now
odd star
dayum really? im out of the loop then
slim coral
Most people just don’t have the gear for it
odd star
what is the damage profile
besides ramp burst
slim coral
So they are playing frost which they geared for
spiral shell
u just inspired me to gear my uh dk, are they much worse than fdk rn? i havent s...
Unholy is fun
Feels good I have one like 602 ilvl gearing on the side
Fat damage
odd star
imma do some uh stuff in my free time, they're neat to play with all the jolly pets
spiral shell
Yeah they changed a little bit but really fun imo
forest owl
here's our uhdk 1st 2 mythic
bronze elm
bois Skyterror or Gear-a-Rang? on same ilvl obvs
forest owl
bitter palm
bois Skyterror or Gear-a-Rang? on same ilvl obvs
sim
spiral shell
Unholy is cheeks in raid tho no?
warm crag
cant believe some guy that spams chain lightning is hot on my heels with -5 ilvl...
cant believe this guy spams bladestorm and cbs and beat me
clever belfry
so udk is being played by mostly non humanoids
warm crag
yuh am waiting on it, just wondering if it's able to sim gear-a-rang correctly
should be fine
forest owl
cant believe this guy spams bladestorm and cbs and beat me
bro 30% of ele shammy is chain lightning xD
all i ever see on my screen is lightning all over the place lol
serene vessel
guys not to brag or anything but my fire mage was able to solo queen ansurek...
warm crag
huh it's the same, but apparently both are better than a 606 Ara-Kara
you didnt say what ilvl the other trinkets were but that can happen ye
bronze elm
all are 606
restive granite
just did a GB 10 with a ret paladin, dude bursted over 10m on the pack before last boss
better nerf warrior
covert blaze
https://tenor.com/view/whiskers-mmm-hmm-suspicious-sus-gif-11609747178733891907
he is up to no good
clever belfry
blast more börst
warm crag
you'd burst higher????
clever belfry
bitter palm
clever belfry
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943906056483004547/943917451727474739/c...
go on
bitter palm
buff arms and nerf fury
clever belfry
buff arms and nerf fury
7
restive granite
clever belfry
📉
warm crag
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bitter palm
wasnt an embed fail i deleted it as soon as it embedded
my gif failed
to embed
not anymore
it embedded now
craaazy
modest condor
but it's friday
clever belfry
powerful message
clever belfry
i just flashbanged myself with this in bed
clever belfry
https://tenor.com/view/guten-morgen-gif-18653587
Sieben Acht Neun
warm crag
it was funny so it was worth it
silk wharf
Toxic positivity
clever belfry
Toxic positivity
America
buoyant salmon
should be noted that 5% of frost dk ret enhances damage in your group is your damage
ignore the mastery and rage shaman gives you thats fake
warm crag
shamans arent real
clever belfry
arctic grotto
nimble ermine
winter shoal
https://tenor.com/view/guten-morgen-gif-18653587
Trying to parse how "ihr lieben" fits into this
silk wharf
I thought beast mastery was broken
nimble ermine
same screenshot over and over and over again
silk wharf
I guess they fixed it
buoyant salmon
bm is literally only good at st
they aoe is worse than just hitting 1 enemy
unlucky
clever belfry
Trying to parse how "ihr lieben" fits into this
have a good day my dears, and a good start into the weekend
warm crag
have a good day *my dears*, and a good start into the weekend
thank you, how nice of you!
winter shoal
have a good day *my dears*, and a good start into the weekend
Wouldn't Lieben be capitalized then bc it's a noun? Idr it's been years since I took german
winter shoal
Me when the shitty facebook wine mom image doesn't follow grammatical rules????
buoyant salmon
bm is the only spec that just isnt viable in m+
warm crag
ye i mean i wouldnt expect the best grammar if i search "freitag deutsch" in tenor gif search
buoyant salmon
unless u have insane aoe pad dps partners
warm crag
had to add deutsch cause it was only english stuff
clever belfry
GaLiGrü
buoyant salmon
eu fake
clever belfry
ure just mad
warm crag
LG,
sage cloak
Question regarding enchants. Athority of the depths vs Radiant power. Thoughts ? I see top warriors use both
buoyant salmon
ich bin ein schiesse
clever belfry
That we have actual culture
nimble ermine
Question regarding enchants. Athority of the depths vs Radiant power. Thoughts ?...
depths bis
radiant cheaper
sage cloak
Aight. thank u!
warm crag
americans when shooting people isnt culturally accepted
clever belfry
radiant cheaper
that's just
warm crag
noway!!!!
clever belfry
not true
warm crag
me when i strawman americans
nimble ermine
idk it was cheaper last time i checked no
winter shoal
Question regarding enchants. Athority of the depths vs Radiant power. Thoughts ?...
Depths better on st, a little worse on aoe. Radiant a little better on aoe, worse on st
clever belfry
Radiant is better in aoe, depths in ST
silk wharf
I don't know how depths works but I assume its a st enchant.
lost saffron
@clever belfry
clever belfry
<@173741974493462528>
was geht
lost saffron
Hi
warm crag
servus
winter shoal
americans when shooting people isnt culturally accepted
KKonaW love my 2A rights brother amen
clever belfry
na culture is ripping everyone elses shit
so just britain2.0
silk wharf
Roll Tide
buoyant salmon
yes
winter shoal
na culture is ripping everyone elses shit
Brother when I was in Germany they only listened to American music and watched American TV
buoyant salmon
best restaurants in uk serve french food
warm crag
sorry to hear that
buoyant salmon
kek dubs
lost saffron
@warm crag Im sorry to heart that
buoyant salmon
Brother when I was in Germany they only listened to American music and watched A...
american entertainment is bis
thats not surprising
clever belfry
i just listen to Dutch (loud noise) and Chinese music (gambling)
warm crag
@lost saffron hello king are you still r1 ovinax? King
warm crag
i just listen to Dutch (loud noise) and Chinese music (gambling)
habitually watch the gamblecore video
sage cloak
When u guys sim aoe. what fight style suits best for this raid on raidbots?
buoyant salmon
<@1205862386280435764> hello king are you still r1 ovinax? King
just wait until i kill boss
sage cloak
In general
clever belfry
habitually watch the gamblecore video
least stimulating video
warm crag
insert title here
clever belfry
When u guys sim aoe. what fight style suits best for this raid on raidbots?
just dont sim aoe
sage cloak
+++
lost saffron
<@1205862386280435764> hello king are you still r1 ovinax? King
I am still r1 my queen
warm crag
oly moly
lost saffron
I hope I keep it until tomorrow 14:00
warm crag
buoyant salmon
how much damage is it
lost saffron
Its my r1 for the tier
buoyant salmon
we kill tonight no cap on a stack
warm crag
tear
lost saffron
I need to keep it
warm crag
most relevant r1
buoyant salmon
i was one of like 16 arms to kill it
clever belfry
by 30k....
warm crag
@mossy fox statement?
clever belfry
Ez for schmoffel-blackhand
lost saffron
I beat the mighty @reef loom
buoyant salmon
i think we kill ovinsx on monday
lost saffron
Even though he is a gigachad
buoyant salmon
got to p3 for the first time last night
warm crag
taistelumage too strong
clever belfry
gg
reef loom
not on boss dmg though
clever belfry
too easy for u
lost saffron
True
reef berry
Yo quick question. Are people just trolling or we are getting more nerfs?
clever belfry
RA or what
cedar depot
im dooming
lost saffron
less add damage required
reef loom
yea our small adds exploded
lost saffron
What does your name mean
warm crag
Yo quick question. Are people just trolling or we are getting more nerfs?
5th nerf is coming in (check #updates-midnight)
clever belfry
im thinking of going RA
should be more dam to big spiders
lost saffron
can you enlighten me
rough tulip
im rerolling
reef loom
nothin
torn cobalt
Yo quick question. Are people just trolling or we are getting more nerfs?
I feel like fury still has something left to give 🤣
clever belfry
Sad
lost saffron
Sad
cyan creek
what wep enchant we running for M+?
mossy fox
<@235809563490779136> statement?
what
junior gale
The cake has crit I repeat the cake has crit
lost saffron
Are you blasting on brood
daring brook
he always does
lost saffron
Man I had such an insane pull
mossy fox
i'm the only fury, and we have 0 fdk
low folio
honestly
lost saffron
i'm the only fury, and we have 0 fdk
Wet dream
clever belfry
i'm the only fury, and we have 0 fdk
ure cooked
low folio
i think im happier when we start off mediocre in a season than starting off good and being nerfed down repeatedly back to where blizzard wants us to be
clever belfry
i think im happier when we start off mediocre in a season than starting off good...
Eh if fury starts mid everything else keeps getting buffed until fury is bad
lost saffron
I am not
clever belfry
(aberrus)
clever belfry
don't go on vacation challenge toph
low folio
i dislike that raid is getting my M+ nerfed
dusk prism
sorry if its been asked but is anyone having trouble with not getting rooted on last boss ara kara?
reef berry
So we are getting soft capped to 5 from 8. AND gettind -3% dmg again? Am I reading it wrong?
Because we just had 3% nerf
slim coral
sorry if its been asked but is anyone having trouble with not getting rooted on ...
Not getting rooted?
clever belfry
So we are getting soft capped to 5 from 8. AND gettind -3% dmg again? Am I readi...
theres no new 3%
slim coral
You just kill an add and stand in blue
clever belfry
theyre just porting the live hotfix to ptr
clever belfry
Read
lost saffron
They are putting everything on ptr
junior gale
Reading hard in the warrior discord
lost saffron
to test
buoyant salmon
its updating the -3% thats live right now
vagrant dagger
sorry if its been asked but is anyone having trouble with not getting rooted on ...
reflect block root
buoyant salmon
onto ptr
lost saffron
nothing is confirmed on live yet
low folio
ya blizzard will add more nerfs later surely
fiery hare
hope not :<
wicked dew
Im liking uproar
you took out 1 point of Armored to the Teeth or what?
calm quartz
yeh
wicked dew
Interesting
feral ivy
necro is a EASY dungeon just IDIOT's
low folio
well they did have to nerf the abom on stitchflesh, but its more reasonable now
siege is the worst in terms of design
frank dawn
Necro is big idiot check, and also interrupt bind check
buoyant salmon
necro is the hardest dungeon of the pool imo
not true lol
wicked dew
necro is the hardest dungeon of the pool imo
thats a wild take
restive granite
NW is the only dungeon youre pressured to pull bigger to time it
all the others you can 1 pack and the ocassional 2
and time it
buoyant salmon
i mean
theres just really inefficient enemies
but like
figure it out idk
pull good packs
restive granite
??
low folio
ideally you would never pull only 1 pack at a time in mythic plus anyways
summer quail
portal guys in necrotic wake is massive. we do 2 of those(not together tho)
ornate gust
Should we check this box when simming ?
buoyant salmon
ive done most keys on a 10
wicked dew
what tier pice do you not want as fury is it head?
Bis-lists online show head or hands, but take it with a grain of salt because they only matter if you have all the other bis pieces
restive granite
youre telling me NW felt easier on a 10 than the others?
buoyant salmon
not pushing right now not much time
calm quartz
it was pretty easy yeah
bitter ether
ty
calm quartz
compared to GB
wicked dew
NW 10 was way easier for me than City of Threads
buoyant salmon
city siege and grim were all harder id say
chilly zodiac
lets march on blizzard as warriors
restive granite
for me NW was a huge cockblock
restive granite
all the others were pretty chill
chilly zodiac
demand they let us be relevant for once
buoyant salmon
demand they let us be relevant for once
we have been
wicked dew
Mists, Siege, and Ara Kara were my 3 easiest 10s
ornate gust
should we upgrade our hero bis trinkets to 626?
meager void
These opinions sound so knowledgeable
warm sage
yall doing frenzied or powerful enraged for mythics?
wicked dew
should we upgrade our hero bis trinkets to 626?
I think yes but only after you've crafted and upgraded your Myth pieces
summer quail
yall doing frenzied or powerful enraged for mythics?
powerful if i take the key seriously. frenzied for fun
warm sage
ok bet
vagrant dagger
i just feel too slow with pwoerful
warm sage
yeah sometimes^
tribal flint
Warriors, we may need to storm the capitol and demand our class back
fringe ice
does anyone have imminent demis WA ?
covert blaze
Should we check this box when simming ?
yes
mild kraken
They really just gutting Warrior this hard?
forest owl
god bm is such stupid st right now compared to fury, my guilds 2 bms with 6 ilvl lower, all of us parsing 99s but fury 240k+ lower on sikran
upbeat plume
we were okayish on ST till blizzard decided that wasnt allowed with the 2nd nerf
fringe ice
god bm is such stupid st right now compared to fury, my guilds 2 bms with 6 ilvl...
just play 200k better
elfin oyster
copper patio
atleast we aren't arms, going to suck to charge into 8 people in pvp and do 37% less damage man
gilded pawn
forest owl
just play 200k better
olive wraith
Play arms for st
forest owl
thats a great idea, but then i remembered i dont like arms xD
just need another +10ilvls vs the 616 bms and we should be equal 
olive wraith
Weird. It’s like diff classes are better for different things
forest owl
ya you're right, we just make the bms mad when we do aoe cause thats what we're good at and theyre not 
queen linden
just play 200k better
compact knot
is the "0.15% critical effect per unique algari gem color" working on the sims?
warm crag
is the "0.15% critical effect per unique algari gem color" working on the sims?
It should
compact knot
because atleast for me it does not seem to be
warm crag
Check the buttons that appear under the meta gem
The force 4 gems and the other one
In top gear
warm crag
Simming it is finicky but u cna just assume it's optimal
buoyant salmon
let me use this in keys
warm crag
Stam gem probs not worth it for first half of expansion
buoyant salmon
rahhhhhhh
compact knot
does it require atleast 5 sockets?
i only got 4 rn and ive checked it and its being weird and not letting me sim it lol
warm crag
How do u only have 4
compact knot
yeah i think i need 5
warm crag
Poor noob!!!!!
compact knot
How do u only have 4
i added 2 to 2 pieces of jewerly that i wont replace instantly
i can add 1 more for funsies
warm crag
Just use 3 colours you'll be fine
compact knot
ye u right
hard widget
just play 200k better
😮
warm crag
It's probs just 4 colours + as many haste mast gems as u can fit
Gems are kinda garbage rn
compact knot
the crit effect is decent tho
warm crag
I don't even know how much it adds dps wise
It's not worth it to use a stamina gem so it can't be that good
echo stump
I dont wanna sound like a dooming guy but am i the only one who literally lost 90% of the will to play after the nerfs ? like ... 1 month of farm to the trash
coarse moon
been playing rejection simulator trying to get into an m+ group
silk wharf
Listen, fury was obviously too good. That's why no one invites them into pugs
pearl sequoia
lean bluff
if mage got the same level of nerfs there would be an entire bluepost, 15 wowhead articles, a dev interview, and competitivewow would be shitting itself
proper wigeon
been playing rejection simulator trying to get into an m+ group
i just made my 636 weapon today
im finally free
coarse moon
did you keep trying or tank your way there
proper wigeon
i dps pugged
i signed up with the message
LET ME THE FUCK IN
it was a numbers game....
coarse moon
for real you just kept trying huh
proper wigeon
eventually someones standards were low enough...
that and i did my own key when i could
coarse moon
nobody wants to join my NW key
proper wigeon
i got a 11 NW key
coarse moon
ok you motivated me to keep going
proper wigeon
so i aint fuckin doin that
silk wharf
The last time i tried to really pug m+ was back in bfa. I legitimately spent 2 hours applying and getting declined before I gave up vowing never to do it again.
proper wigeon
as i had a ++9 clear in Mists i kept joinin those groups as well as any others i had 9's in
else people just rejected
i got into some that i didnt have 9's prior in
but dps wouldnt interrupt or mispull
accidently said an xbox live gamer word my bad
as i was saying and tanks were dumber than 2 brain cells smacking against each other
so people would leave and groups disband right before last boss which was pain
proper wigeon
healer saying please sir im so thirsty i need water
and the tank whispering no as he jumps into 10 packs and dies
on fortified
did a siege where the tank directed the cone aoe at us knocking the healer and other ranged into the water to be eaten by sharks
lusty jungle
Exposing me fr
proper wigeon
i did a key of NW where the rogue never kicked necrotic bolt so that was fun
me and the DH tank pulling double shifto n second boss
nobody (dps) in pugs pops defensives ont rash and they go pika chu face when they die
to fix M+ make it so it gives no raid gear from the vault or gear that can help mythic and make it so it gives gear similar to pvp gear that scales higher when in m+
and only give cosmetic or m+ gear track rewards similar to pvp
forest owl
I also go pikachu face when my healers cant heal a oneshot
proper wigeon
that way u keep all the bad players who just want their free vault loot out
instead of this pseudo community enforced mandatory grind
uncut plank
Any1 knows best race for M+? Dmg wise
proper wigeon
but muh esports mythic plus teams
low folio
races give very insignifant dps differences between them
uncut plank
races give very insignifant dps differences between them
According to MaxRoll it's 20k+
low folio
thats nothing
proper wigeon
I also go pikachu face when my healers cant heal a oneshot <:clueless:1099922541...
i love watching mages watch their health go down and not iceblocking
forest owl
Any1 knows best race for M+? Dmg wise
Gnome cause smol so mobs have harder time killing you so you do more dmg
uncut plank
It's still minimax
proper wigeon
then going wooooooow as 15 seconds get knocked off the clock
low folio
i mean the best mythic plus races arent hte ones that give outright dps
proper wigeon
i mean the best mythic plus races arent hte ones that give outright dps
gotta be the goblin
pleasure duin bismuth
pearl sequoia
night elf so giga, shadowwmeld half the mechanics
those grim batol death rays
meld
ur wife?
meld
hybrid karma
had anyone here that death recap just says you died to nothing?
like its completly empty
dense elbow
Prot warr carrying I see, good chsp
serene vessel
those grim batol death rays
grim batol death rays?
wanton jacinth
Are there any special settings / considerations for fury when simming? Specific fight style / etc. one should prefer?
fickle cedar
grim batol death rays?
the octopus laser
short cobalt
Hi is the alchemist stone good for us? People saying gives 10k strength proc
serene vessel
the octopus laser
oh the thing you can spell reflect?
fickle cedar
oh the thing you can spell reflect?
no i mean corrupt
proper wigeon
fury so dedge that we need to tank now
Prot was the real single minded fury all along
serene vessel
no i mean corrupt
Ya you can sr that
fickle cedar
Ya you can sr that
mm i dont think you can reflect it, you can reduce the shadow damage tho
hard widget
Its a deflect
U can fully neglect the damage
The targetting on it is buggy as fuck tho, so 9 out of 10 times ur guessing who its on
fickle cedar
oh shit i didnt know ty
covert void
i assume we're just doing bracers with 3rd spark?
hard widget
Only way to maybe see is mob facing
Nah, sometimes it just targets tank, faces tank and goes on you
Its unreliable
fervent yoke
We still dooming?
lime plaza
Yes
burnt kelp
Dooming is important
lime plaza
Next nerf is already cooked up. Just gotta wait for it
burnt kelp
If you don't doom then devs will think woyers are happy with the changes
doom until blizzard gives some single target buffs to compensate the gutting of the aoe burst
serene vessel
U can fully neglect the damage
im prtty sure it's more than just a deflect
hard widget
im prtty sure it's more than just a deflect
No its a deflect, doesnt deal dmg
serene vessel
my point being that i believe it does deal damage, it just doesn't attribute it to you on details
hard widget
Unless my details are taking a piss with me
hard widget
Other channels do work
serene vessel
not always
rocky wharf
heroic queen. is a solid even number group needed to split soaks? we had one guy sit raid
serene vessel
yeah, what I've noticed is that it's only reliable the last .2 seconds of the cast
so you gotta be quick with it
or you just play the guessing game and hope he casts it on u
haughty basin
arms or fury on court
hybrid karma
sometimes also the first like .2 seconds
hard widget
always am baby 😉
Well lets not get ahead of ourselves now xD
buoyant salmon
arms or fury on court
whatever u like
haughty basin
i like both
hard widget
I noticed that there is a few moments where u can see who it casts on and then swaps the cast target to tank
Idk how reliable that info is either tho
honest sundial
I hate that it's true 😦
serene vessel
I noticed that there is a few moments where u can see who it casts on and then s...
from my experience, the last .2 seconds of the cast is who it will always go on
lime plaza
My fury reached 621 ilvl today and im hellbent on maining him blizzard. Do you hear me ???!!!
covert void
@hard widget are you not using new spark this week, for gilded crest or
hard widget
<@637785960108654602> are you not using new spark this week, for gilded crest or
I used my spark on boots with free HC craft
Im used 75 gilded crest to upgrade broodsac to 636
covert void
ah I see, makes sense.
hard widget
And im not spending any other gilded crests untill i get myth track items
covert void
Already did a crest so, guess its bracers then any future crests for myth items.
hard widget
I just follow Larias his ilvl minmax guide thingy tbh
lime plaza
I got mythic track set shoulders from vault so I used the remaining gildies to up that
covert void
yeh ill be a bit behind on upgrading myth track, but then i guess im ahead a bit on the craft so.
hard widget
yeh ill be a bit behind on upgrading myth track, but then i guess im ahead a bit...
Issue is that wrists are a lower prio upgrade type of thing
Upgrading a chest > wrists
covert void
yeh that's fair. I didn't get a great myth track item this week anyways just a belt
but aye, sub optimal for sure
hard widget
Its fine tbh
gray turtle
is there a in depth guide on fury rotation and when to use procs for tww i cant find one that i am grasoping
hard widget
Its minmax stuff anyways
hard widget
is there a in depth guide on fury rotation and when to use procs for tww i cant ...
To be honest we dont have that many procs
The only "real proc" is Sudden death procs
gray turtle
To be honest we dont have that many procs
im mainly confused on when to press and in what order for raging blow blood thirst and the proc vewrsions of each
hard widget
im mainly confused on when to press and in what order for raging blow blood thir...
I'd suggest you look at the wowhead priority list
gray turtle
ok ty
idle ember
hard widget
U joined the warrior discord to ask where to reroll to?
pearl sequoia
gilded flicker
Does someone know the macro that puts ravager on the player location ?
tribal flint
We aren’t trash but we got regulated to mid which doesn’t make sense when dks and ret exist
hard widget
Does someone know the macro that puts ravager on the player location ?
. /use [@player] Ravager
gilded flicker
. /use [@player] Ravager
ty
wanton coral
does anyone know if spell reflect has any benefit in mraid first boss?
stoic storm
What should we be using our third spark on? Did cloak and bracers so far.
hidden kite
does anyone know if spell reflect has any benefit in mraid first boss?
20% magic dr is beneficial in every content
wanton coral
more around webs.
pearl sequoia
What should we be using our third spark on? Did cloak and bracers so far.
assuming u crrafted for m+ so i guess weapon for raid
2 sparks
unreal shell
Warriormaster spools up the warrior discord, names himself warrior master, and asks about a re-roll. 🪤
hard widget
What specifically?
short cobalt
hard widget
U dump a simc file in here without the context
short cobalt
meant taht
hard widget
Well if u got the simc, u couldve asked Raidbots the same question
unreal shell
hard widget
xd
unreal shell
hahahahahah
hard widget
No its not
short cobalt
yes it is
unreal shell
🎣
short cobalt
it told me to use silkens arsenal over Egg
which = less dps
overall when i tried both
everytime.
hard widget
overall when i tried both
Because the robot makes more mistakes than you?
hard widget
So am i
short cobalt
all g
unreal shell
what sim did you run and then did your test match the sim you ran?
odd star
skill issue
pearl sequoia
well its simming single target, not mutliple mobs over a dungeon, gotta take into account some common sense
hard widget
The sims are fine
short cobalt
I chose dungeon slice
odd star
I chose dungeon slice
u what now
hard widget
Well there is ur problem
hard widget
Just sim st and aoe
short cobalt
for mythic +
hard widget
And choose
U see, 5k dps gain on ST for 20k dps loss aoe
Then u decide if u want that
odd star
you'll lose to ret anyways
unreal shell
true
pearl sequoia
*a good ret
short cobalt
not yet
sudden tusk
must suffer