fury

[wary fjord]

Though can't you force more to spawn?

[ember apex]

good meme if u made it

[spiral shell]

Easy solution make tank pull max 5 targets and if he doesn’t vote to kick ez

[tribal flint]

I did lol

[quiet geyser]

Brood is like that, logs arent touched for that

[wary fjord]

Lol

Lmao

[coarse nest]

Technically you could force spawn more parasites couldn’t you?

[dense sedge]

I'm fucking loving the memes

warrior discord best discord

[wary fjord]

I'll say it, remove all non boss damage from logs

Let mayhem commence

[coarse nest]

That makes no one want to spec cleave or aoe though

That is such a problem

[ornate gust]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[wary fjord]

"please add it back, all our raiders are making us wipe cause they don't want to touch adds"

[ember apex]

honestly, some bosses are ST meme fights, some have cleave, just leave it

idk why they have to F w/ it

its like a 1 out of 8 bosses

[wary fjord]

Yeah

Just have two logs for it easy

[heavy galleon]

More up Frost DK and Ret Paladin plz

[ember apex]

who cares and i dont say this b/c im a cleave spec and its a cleave boss

i dont think they should do this to say ST bosses even though im the worst ST in the fucking game

[wary fjord]

One rank for overall, the other for boss damage

[sour abyss]

Dam to boss filter already exists

[ember apex]

yeah it's already broken out. i agree

[wary fjord]

Yeah, but make it more prominent

[iron portal]

Wth does that even mean

[dusty bluff]

Thinking about re-rolling Mage is aug or arcane hard to play?

[ember apex]

what do we do for bosses like sikran and court where we go arms, and all our shit is mastery btw

do we just yolo it and run it anyways?

[sinful spoke]

a lot of us on NA are actually posting

hows eu looking

[dusty bluff]

That we’re getting nerfed

[ember apex]

link please

i will signal boost

[sinful spoke]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/classes/warrior/42

🫡

[wary fjord]

Aug is hard to play at max efficiency, since you need to know all cds

[ember apex]

thats eu tho

im on american server

[wary fjord]

But not that hard to play well

[sinful spoke]

why is my shit set to eu

wtf

[ember apex]

VPN?

[dusty bluff]

I see thanks

[ember apex]

i use protonVPN and it sets my shit to Switzerland constantly

[remote zephyr]

Anyone have experience with both MMO mouse and 2 button mouse for WoW? MMO mouse has been leaving my thumb to be pretty fatigued during long sessions and I've been considering switching, if it's possible or somehow more optimal.

[summer crater]

It's funny that even our "st spec" arms is shadow priest level on sikran

Mythic

[heavy galleon]

I want to delete this game really

[wary fjord]

Do it, free yourself

[ember apex]

i use Swiftpoint Z2 mouse but the middle mouse click down button breaks and its my third one

and each one is $225

[wary fjord]

We are chained to this game

[summer crater]

Then again we could have it as bad as rogues

[haughty basin]

just do content you enjoy and if it stops becoming fun stop playing

[ember apex]

so im also looking for another mouse but i dont want the one with all the side buttons

[haughty basin]

why you developing a toxic relationshp with a video game

[quiet geyser]

Silk has a lot of downtime. The fight just sucks

[dusty bluff]

This is the best mouse for me

Before this, I had the mouse with 11 buttons on the side, but I have fat fingers so I kept pressing buttons accidentally. This one’s much better.

[sinful spoke]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/classes/warrior/186

[ember apex]

it's missing a lot of the ergonomic buttons that the swiftpoint Z has

[sinful spoke]

this is Na

[ember apex]

ty

[iron portal]

I have the same. Weights are nice touch too

[fringe ice]

this fight killed us

[summer crater]

I'm guessing total radio silence from blizzard

[ember apex]

i have an idea, u guys know how they brought back wow classic b/c ppl wanted it

[tribal flint]

I think I’m going to create a petition later today

[ember apex]

what if we do a mass movement to bring back The War Within Classic

how it was at launch, #nochanges

[tawny moss]

Are the odyn's fury and thunderous roar nerfs already live or is that in November or whenever 11.5 is ?

[crude ridge]

I get the feeling people out here thinking those nerfs went live already as I'm getting declined left and right for frost DKs lol

[heavy galleon]

DK and Paladin have still more long burst than us but nothing

[quiet geyser]

Joking aside, fludding the forums is legit the only thing we can realistically do. Seems to work for warlocks 🙃

[ember apex]

it's crazy b/c i put all my sausages in the fury warrior basket

[crude ridge]

those nerfs are on the ptr so no not live yet

[sinful spoke]

as per usual

[timber hare]

Who is the main guy making the warrior changes?

[crude ridge]

an intern probably

[ember apex]

lol there's no one guy for warrior who just does warrior

[dusty bluff]

I just looked that up and that looks like a very nice mouse

[heavy galleon]

or just remove TR and buff bladestorm for less burst idk

[ember apex]

don't buy, middle mouse button breaks all the time

[warm crag]

me

[ember apex]

3rd mouse, spent $600+ on them

[dusty bluff]

Oh wow

[ember apex]

i like everything else

[haughty basin]

id just love an understanding of the design philosophy. lke give some insight.

[ember apex]

the bad part is, there's no real alternative

[warm crag]

AMA

[ember apex]

everythign is either phonebook on the side, or FPS mouse

phonedial pad*

idk what the word is for that

[dusty bluff]

Do you use a gamepad or just a keyboard

[ember apex]

we need The War Within Classic, #nochanges

its the only way

[weary sail]

Warrior was good in legion

Cant wait for legion classic

[leaden wasp]

how is best cd usage for ovinax in HC? damage pad

[ember apex]

i didnt play in legion i started in shadowlands 😭

[weary sail]

U started with one of the worst expansion of all time

[runic quail]

last time warriors were good was in mop. prove me wrong

[ember apex]

hold CDs for adds, never on boss alone, also you can check lorrgs.io for specific timings if that's what ur looking fior

[heavy galleon]

Mop was fun

[tribal flint]

Shadowlands is a little underrated. Nathria was amazing

[leaden wasp]

yea thats what im looking for

[weary sail]

Listen, warrior was so good in Legion, even Asmongold top the meters. That is all you needed to know

[quiet geyser]

Quite the stretch.

[heavy galleon]

the design of warrior is bad since sooooooo long

[wary fjord]

Someone post the execute video

[timber hare]

Yeah first few weeks of SL went hard

[ember apex]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-fury/broodtwister-ovinax

[weary sail]

But arms in legion gameplay was doodoo

[wary fjord]

To show fury in legion

[ember apex]

no logged kills yet for mythic

heroic u can just check on WCL

[candid falcon]

9.1.5. PTR was crazy good

[buoyant salmon]

shadowlands after 9.1.5 was fine

[ember apex]

did u guys play dark souls 3

[buoyant salmon]

the crazy awful system restrictions were lifted on that patch

[wary fjord]

So after half the expac

[tribal flint]

Going into the maw was ass though

[buoyant salmon]

yes

the 2nd half was rather good

[modest condor]

big disagree on both points
1 good raid doesnt make an expansion good when there are 10 different things that make it the worst expansion in history
also sludgefist and sire were not good enough to counter all the shit bosses that were in there

[wary fjord]

Ye it was

[buoyant salmon]

so pretty average expansion

[wary fjord]

Too bad then 9.2 hit and they took away our toys

[thorny shoal]

wod > shadowlands

[candid falcon]

tbh the maw was pretty cool, players just didnt understand the idea that the zone was intentionally hostile

[wary fjord]

I remember the tier set and Lego nerf

Right before we could have it

[tribal flint]

Shadowlands was cooler than Disney land mmo that dragon flight was

[buoyant salmon]

fury was great in 9.2

[quiet geyser]

Dont forget nathria was 1 of fury's worse patches ever lol

[wary fjord]

Yes

[heavy galleon]

Mop > Legion > other shits

[wary fjord]

But it was gonna be so good if not for that nerf

Like, huge st

[modest condor]

oh you're just trolling, my bad for taking you serious

[inland fractal]

any expac with titans grip and bladestorm was good

[wary fjord]

Legion was peak tho

[buoyant salmon]

i think shadowlands as an idea was cooler than dragonflight but dragonflight was just a better playing experience

[tawny shadow]

All my homies hate ravager

[buoyant salmon]

hands down

[wary fjord]

Ye

SL was cool in concept

[quiet geyser]

Agree with this. Shadowlands was a let down for the cool theme they were going with

[thorny shoal]

nothing will ever feel as warcraft as Legion

[quiet geyser]

Wotlk

[iron portal]

Shadowlands had exhausting raiding

I would say

[inland fractal]

using ravager instead of bladestorm is like letting AI do your work for you.. just feels meh

[buoyant salmon]

shadowlands season 4 is arguably the best single season in wow depending on how much you like m+

[thorny shoal]

Fair, i meant moreso in the modern era. should have clarified that my b

[buoyant salmon]

with sl s1 being arguably the worst m+ season depending on how much you liked raid

[candid falcon]

ravager would have been better if it just did aoe around you

[tribal flint]

Sort of I get your points but I’m just being honest dragonflights systems were way better but man it just felt like a PG Disney movie and just felt lame

[buoyant salmon]

is ravager something ppl have an issue with

[inland fractal]

DF mainly felt to me like they pulled villians out of a hat, now at least Xal was somehow introduced in older xpacs and feels like an actuall threat

[quiet geyser]

Shadowlands straight up loses cuz the raids sucked.

[haughty basin]

nathria is top 5 raid all tiime lowkey

[buoyant salmon]

did sepulcher suck though

had some of the best bosses ever

i think its a solid raid

there were stinkers for sure

[modest condor]

sepulcher was just too hard and too short

[formal scaffold]

I'm not sure I agree on "actual threat". She hasn't really shown up enough to convince me she's at all scary. But at least she was introduced previously, yeah.

[gilded pawn]

How was sepulcher too short

Wasn’t it 11 bosses

[modest condor]

you only had like 4 months before fated came

or 5 or something idk

[weary sail]

Too late most people already quit by then

[modest condor]

a lot of guilds didnt make it to the end in time

[weary sail]

But TWW has been good so far

I dont personally enjoy delves but a lot of my casual friends like delves cuz its good gear for solo content

[haughty basin]

M+? im a delve chad now

[inland fractal]

Well in the end she is just a "servant" to void lords or whoever. But she still solos some hero characters and aparently was pulling the strings for some time now

[quiet geyser]

I dunno, crab and andy were good... rest meh?

[serene vessel]

did they fix the bug with being able to just kill the world boss twice to complete the world quest?

[weary sail]

Jailer sucks

[formal scaffold]

Sure, but reversing a death -- let alone so early -- takes a lot of the power out of her, imo. I know it's a Blizzard thing, but if you want her to appear powerful make her impact stick.

[quiet geyser]

Also, shadowlands had sanctum which was a hot pile of garbage outside of painsmith

[wary fjord]

I liked the crab boss from sepulcher

[buoyant salmon]

jailer was a great boss

[weary sail]

9.1 was a dark time for WoW

[buoyant salmon]

i agree the raid was too hard

but the bosses were geeat

rygelon halondrus jailer anduin were all really really good bosses

[inland fractal]

yeah that was a letdown.. but still better than evil dragon #1, #2 and #3

[modest condor]

9.1 has to be the lowest playercount since classic

[spiral gyro]

I got 2 610 Weapons, but only a 577 wrist.. Should I first craft the wrist with the embelishment or still the weapon first?

I think the wrist makes more sense in my scenario, no?

[wary fjord]

Halondrus was great

[weary sail]

Nah man jailer as a fight sucks theres a reason everyone rated so low

Platform pillar bomb mechanics 🤮

LoS mechanic

[night relic]

I’m happy I quit early in sl hearing all this doom

[weary sail]

9.1.5 and 9.2 was okay

[spiral gyro]

Gorefiend in Hellfire Citadell was Top Tier Boss - Change my mind

[weary sail]

But before that it was garbo

[buoyant salmon]

they were good tbh

[serene vessel]

woah bro, but Korthia?

[haughty basin]

i read korthia and literally cringed

actual PTSD

[serene vessel]

wym Korthia was so COOL

unironically like someone saw that people liked the timeless isles in mists and managed to sap all the soul out of it

[inland fractal]

add stuff like stygia, "heal de wundz" and you can call Static an ambulance

[haughty basin]

"city of secrets" imagine if the jailer yoinked an ancient city like Suramar into the maw and we had to go around exploring it and shit

sorry best we can do is this blue piece of rubble

[spiral gyro]

Hey Guys, Quick question:

I got 2 610 Weapons, but only a 577 wrist.. Should I first craft the wrist with the embelishment or still the weapon first?
I think the wrist makes more sense in my scenario, no?

[haughty basin]

yes

[dark frost]

Wrist are low impact

[haughty basin]

youre gonna craft it at some point

[spiral gyro]

But its 42 ilvl difference tho

[quiet geyser]

@spiral gyro the wrist embellishment doesnt do anything without the weapon.

[pulsar quest]

Why not just do the weapon

[spiral gyro]

uh okay got it

[dark frost]

I mean pretty sure ilvl on weapon is our biggest dos increase

[pulsar quest]

You should be able to do both this week

[dark frost]

And wrist has lowest stat

[modest condor]

42 ilvls on a wrist is like 10 ilvls on a weapon, also what ioan said

[spiral gyro]

Yeah, gotta farm mythic 🙂

[pulsar quest]

Weapon with gilded crests and wrist with free runed crest

[spiral gyro]

No worries, thanks!

Then I'll do the weapon - thats why i asked 😄

[pulsar quest]

No problem

[spiral gyro]

Yeah I havent got a gilded crest yet 😦

[pulsar quest]

Last 2 of heroic and 9 keys all drop it

Happy grinding 🙂

[spiral gyro]

Im behind in Mythic+ Rating, since I wasnt playing last week and having trouble now to find decent key-groups 😦

[nimble kraken]

You could do a gear compare on Warcraft logs. It’d let you check how much dps %relative from each item

[spiral gyro]

Pugs are a pain in the ass without a proper rating..

[nimble kraken]

If you build your own groups with your key you’ll find some

No rating joining others is going to be a nightmare

[spiral gyro]

Yeah, guess thats what i gotta do now.. Any tips on what to look for exactly?

If someone timed a key? How often, etc.=

[nimble kraken]

Make sure you bring a b-rez

A lust is nice. Finding people who have scored close to your key is a good sign

Melee have more stops/kicks but too much means all the ranged targeting mechanics will only slam the healer, so maybe a ranged dps atleast

[wicked dew]

Bro Im at 2496 io and cannot time the last key I need to save my life

[tribal flint]

Warriors should get a death grip

[dense elbow]

Eat some broccoli and go again

[spiral gyro]

Alright, thanks man!

One more question:

Should I use a runed crest for the weapon first?
Tbh, I think its gonna take quiet some time untill im clearing 9 with Pugs

I mean, a runed crest should be easy to get anyways in near future, right?

[dense elbow]

Runed? No, glimmering is what you use for weap :o

[spiral gyro]

Ah my bad

[young swan]

gilded

[spiral gyro]

Sorry i meant glimmering

the hero ones

[dense elbow]

Glimmer gilded

same thing

[modest condor]

if you at all expect to be able to craft at 636 this week then hold off on crafting, otherwise i would just commit to it

[sour frigate]

oh no i cant zug zug ...

insane boss

[spiral gyro]

Mh.. Guess I'll have a look how well pugs work with my own key, and then decide

Thanks for your help guys!

Also I'd like to improve my Gameplay as Fury, since I think im doing a lot of shit wrong.. May I send a log in log-review to get some help from u guys?

[river viper]

I have spent so much time gearing my fury warrior doing M+ and this evening I can't even bring myself to play it because it seems like a waste of time now. I do have an arms alt which I thinking of making my main but they don't look much better for M+ kind of disheartened right now because I was looking forward to pushing keys and that seems like it's no longer going to be possible in pug groups now

[weary sail]

Fury is still fine for M+

[quiet geyser]

@spiral gyro https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/449510248579858432

[weary sail]

But getting a group sucks

[modest condor]

why do you have an arms alt when you can just play both specs on the same character?

also what butterer said

[weary sail]

As a DPS

[wicked dew]

I mean, the stat priority is kinda backwards for the 2 specs, no?

[clever path]

Hello everyone, I'm a new warrior, I still don't quite understand how to search and how to use Whirlwind, does anyone have any basic tips?

[sour frigate]

just build haste

[spiral gyro]

Aight, I think I'll log a Siege of Boralus Fight and send the log in there then 🙂

Thanks in advance!

[modest condor]

i mean the stat priority is ilvl

[iron portal]

Just farm both gears smh

And what silm said

[weary sail]

At the end of the day, its an mmo. If you want to play high keys consistently, make friends, be nice to people, socialize. Theres about 30 DPS for every 1 tank so you competing for that spot

[sour frigate]

use ww > 4 abilities > ww

[clever path]

ty ❤️

[tame gorge]

What do you mean I have to socialize in a mmorpg?!

-Modern Wow Players

[spiral gyro]

Also one last question:

With the CD Reduction I sometimes are in a scenario where Bladestorm is ready again, while Avatar/Recklessness are still on 20 secs CD.. Do I press Bladestorm, or do I wait for Reck/Avatar?

[weary sail]

If you dont want to socialize and still want to get invite to high keys, better be ahead of the curve, super high IO and ilvl, or FOTM OP class

[modest condor]

just press bladestorm

[nimble kraken]

When will my follower dungeons be able to do a mythic 9+??

“I’m going all out!”

[eager thorn]

finally simming over 1m on single target pog

[warm crag]

????

were u wearing ilvl 400 gear or

[gaunt anvil]

guys quick question, I've already checked both maxroll and wowhead guides about rotation prio so my question is should I try to stack bloodcraze crit before using bloodbath so it always (almost always crit) or just send it Rampage -> Crushing blow -> Bloodbath -> Rampage cycle?

[dense sedge]

In aoe u want to be sending crushing blow BB

if purely ST u want topriortize asmany CB's aspossible

[warm crag]

the crit conditional is super niche and you can technically ignore it

[modest condor]

it's basically there in case you get a chain of raging blows, at some point your bloodthirst/bath crit chance will hit 90% and you just want to send it so you dont waste any stacks

otherwise ignore bloodcraze

[river viper]

the stat requirements are different plus I needed a earthen

[warm crag]

just farm the gear on the same character or lol

[gaunt anvil]

I read it on the Revves guide and was trying to do it all the time even with the WA to track it

[warm crag]

ilvl triumphs 99% of the time anyways

[gaunt anvil]

ok thank you all guys ❤️

[jaunty verge]

nerf IDT

[modest condor]

i mean his guide doesnt say only press bb if you're at high crit

[spark stone]

How big is the tierset?

[jaunty verge]

2pc good, 4pc meh

[modest condor]

it just has a higher prio bb in case you do have a lot of stacks

[gaunt anvil]

fair enough

[void jewel]

2 piece is far from good aswell

[spark stone]

wasn't there a % estimation of how much dmg increase it gives overall?

[jaunty verge]

its like nearly 4% for 2 pc and like 0.6% for 4set or something

[warm crag]

theres a tier spreadsheet floating around somewhere

[void jewel]

@jaunty verge its like 2,7% from 0 piece to 4 piece

[jaunty verge]

damn

maybe 2% for 2pc and .7% for 4

cooked af either way

[heavy galleon]

again a bad tier set as S1 DF

[quiet geyser]

Welcome to fury war

[heavy galleon]

I guess Blizzard think "there is too much warrior, just hard nerf they will change class"

[eager thorn]

612

[quiet geyser]

Have you seen how many mages parses there are?

[daring trout]

2,7%? i think we need some serious Nerf next week again when all Fury got their op 4sets! 🤣

[eager thorn]

i think my stat prio is just fked

[ionic plaza]

Warrior being strong is toxic masculinity

[warm crag]

1 mil st in aoe spec or

[void jewel]

I mean if we care about our damage we might just switch to Arms in mythic raiding and still be middle of the pack only. But sadly Blizzard nerfs based on Hero logs without understanding that we are only that high up there because of useless add dmg

[eager thorn]

ye

aoe raid spec

[warm crag]

fair

[eager thorn]

i dont have embellishments yet

or any crafts

[dense sedge]

don'tbother mate

[unique frigate]

Goddamn, ive been ruined by fury, everything else feels so slow and sluggish

[dense sedge]

Yeah mate everything else is soft as fuck

playing my ret alt and it cool having cd's but i feel like a right fanny

[jaunty verge]

Add damage in nerubar palace isnt useless btw, its basically all prio adds

But Frost DK is allowed to walk all over ovinax

[void jewel]

In Hero it is useless

[grim grail]

radiant authority nerfed?

[void jewel]

And in mythic we are not good at add dmg either because we are only good at burst aoe and adds survive longer there, so nearly every other class overtakes us on aoe aswell. Same in Higher Keys

[tawny shadow]

blizz dont play their game they just see number and nerf em

[eager thorn]

we can put vault socket on crafted bracers right?

[coarse nest]

Yes

[void jewel]

@tawny shadow yeah and they only look at Hero logs because thats the hjghest they can do

[eager thorn]

Ok pog

Does anyone know rough dps added from gems and yes i will sim later

[nimble kraken]

I mean b shout and rally have decent raid applications so there’ll always be space for atleast one

[coarse nest]

Uh just spit balling probably around .5% give or take

[modest condor]

gems are usually like 0.5% dps each

[eager thorn]

hmm maybe i wont take then

ty for info guys

[coarse nest]

Eventually you want all the gems though

[reef plover]

Hi everyone, I have a question pls, do we need a weak aura to follow the 2 stack given by the 4p set of the fury warrior ?

[coarse nest]

That’s what like 4% dam increase

[modest condor]

no

[eager thorn]

play as if you dont have tier set

nothing rlly changes

[reef plover]

I'd agree

[dense elbow]

but?

[reef plover]

But i was surprised I couldnt really see any passiv or anything x)

[eager thorn]

yea my current situation is i have champ transmitter and could get hero or a hero tier helm that saves me like 3 tiers of crests, feel like this might be the worst vault i get for a while at least to take the socket

[reef plover]

So I was at least trying to find any answer ^^

[dense elbow]

I am honestly positively surprised; Warrior forum is actually getting quite a few angry posts in it
There are ppl out there who care

[idle ember]

is it worth executing if its not proccing the Bladestorm cd reduction thing?

[sinful spoke]

chat i cranked in mythic bloodhound a bit last night

dontlook at my boss dmg

[quaint elbow]

Hey yall, was just checking warcraftlogs data for past 2 weeks and Arms is above fury in mythic and heroic. Is that it then? We're going arms?

[inner zinc]

Hide that parse before bliz sees it and nerfs us again

[quaint elbow]

They dont need a reason to nerf us sadly T.T

[night relic]

Encounter based, although in high ilvl heroic I would only switch fury for brood and queen rest all arms

[covert blaze]

why are you censoring

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vampire-bat-pixel-gif-7231209074183542492

[quaint elbow]

True, for those fights fury's still king

Guess I'll have to dust off the good ol' colossus smasher. I'm a bit rusty. Long time since I don't go arms

[safe cradle]

How do you guys like to space out your cds in boss fights looking for ideas because I don’t feel like I’m using cds optimally

[tribal flint]

I think slayer is better in raid for arms

[night relic]

Slayer is better ye

[safe cradle]

Do you try and hold odyns and bladestorm for ads?

[quaint elbow]

Last time I played Arms was in 8.3 Nyalotha mythic, filled to the top with corruption. Fun times

[gaunt egret]

Does dungeon slice sim not work for fury? why is my dungeon slice sim same as singe target zzzz

[daring trout]

guys Its only me, or you think too that blizz balancing team watch only normal And heroic 5mans before Nerf? 🤔🤣

[wicked dew]

this worked thanks

[tender star]

whats best way to use mad queen? before popping opener? does it benefit from avatar/recklessness or trinkets?

[pseudo marlin]

any way to recover my supreme token?

accidentally bought pve dupe hands

lmao

and equipped that shit

[sinful spoke]

Im trying to be a good guildy and not post my homies names

[lost saffron]

Yes

I already know them all

[sinful spoke]

[tawny shadow]

prot war slot

[hard widget]

So close 😢

[safe cradle]

Brother it only takes a wow log search to find em

[hard widget]

Yet so far

[river viper]

Just been asked if I have a set bonus when applying for a +4 lol

[sinful spoke]

Padgod

[sinful spoke]

Yeah but at that point ur being a freak if u do allat

[safe cradle]

Also true

[covert blaze]

that is not readily available info in your public parse

[lost saffron]

Did you pad?

[hard widget]

Full st ofc :3

[lost saffron]

Man logs are a scam

[sinful spoke]

Jeventes is the readon we’re getting nerfed

[tawny shadow]

thats why i unsubbed to Jeventes

[spiral gyro]

Chat, what do we think of this UI?

Anything I forgot?

[hard widget]

Kekw

[tawny shadow]

i feel like its too big clogs your screen imo

[native saffron]

Where can i go have a look how the two enrage talent compare to eachother in keys?

[serene vessel]

ima be honest I think its too much

[young swan]

tracking rampage and having a rage bar is unnecessary

or rather, tracking rampage is unnecessary because you have a rage bar

[serene vessel]

i mean thats not entirely true, right?

[weary sail]

Is it +10 to get portal for M+?

[lost saffron]

I like when my rage number becomes green when I can use rampage

[serene vessel]

there's definitely times you want to hold rampage until you're at 110 rage, no?

[young swan]

i do the same ting

[warm crag]

then just track the rage bar

[young swan]

but theres no reason to have a rampage weakaura

when u can bake that functionality into the bar

its just clutter

[serene vessel]

ima be real with you I don't know the actual rage cost of rampage

[young swan]

80

[lost saffron]

I like clutter

[tawny shadow]

80

[lost saffron]

I hope nobody kills ovinax tonight

[dark frost]

You guys rocking double on use for m+ or just sacbrood+something else

[lost saffron]

I need it to be the rank 1 I get every content

so I can feel good about myself

[spiral gyro]

Holy, that are a lot of messages 😄

What do you mean with too much? The Weakaura? Or are the Windows too big?

[sinful spoke]

u forgot to delete ur warrior

[young swan]

id like to experiment with double on use, think skarm shard is prob broken as fuck

[warm crag]

u are my king already

[dark frost]

Over mark??

[young swan]

it has permanent benefit of giving u 1k mastery

[warm crag]

shard has secondary effect

[sinful spoke]

ive been using double on use

[spiral gyro]

kekw

[sinful spoke]

i have yet

[warm crag]

mark is garbanzo

[young swan]

shits broken

[sinful spoke]

to get a trinket

from keys

[young swan]

mark is bait

[serene vessel]

personally, I like to keep my cooldowns on a seperate bar from my rotational abilities so I can look at them all at a quick glance.

[tawny shadow]

mark powwer crept by

[young swan]

anything you would use mark for, skarm is just better at

[warm crag]

go farm ara kara noob

[lost saffron]

Can you be my queen

[spiral gyro]

Oh you got an example of that? Just that I have a quick inspiration?

[dark frost]

I think the only trinket i dont have is skarm lol

[warm crag]

No

[tawny shadow]

you get invited to kara's kek?

[spiral gyro]

The WA is imported from Wago - Would like to have some other input as well if you dont mind 😄

[young swan]

i am transmitting currently, just need to buckle down and actually farm out a shard

[warm crag]

yeah?

pretty easily aswell? until i looted mine

[tender sky]

Do you use your second on use for the 2nd odyns fury/bladestorm window?

[sinful spoke]

AS TANK

?!?

INSTANT

DECLINE

IS CRAZY

[tawny shadow]

damn 2.4k 618 ++9 dont get invited to karas lol

[warm crag]

ye

[dense sedge]

Second on use

u crazy

[warm crag]

second on use is necessary for broodkeeper

crazy selfreport

[spiral gyro]

Oh that WA is nice and small.. Is it your own?

[young swan]

its very common this tier

[dense sedge]

I'm using sac and kard

[serene vessel]

i basically ripped critcakes UI and then modified it a lil bit

[tender sky]

Do yall hold either odyns or bladestorm to line them up or do you full send? I think double on use would incentivize aligning

[serene vessel]

critcakes UI is initially from Atrocity (you have to sub to him) and then the fury WA itself is

[quaint elbow]

Hey, I noticed in rashanan damage on adds doesnt count for warcraftlogs. Which other fights has adds where that happens? Help me pad my log please

[dense sedge]

I mean i'm only raiding heroic so i aint to fussed

[warm crag]

just rashanan for now

but dont troll your raid and go st in mythic

[spiral gyro]

I see, the WA is really nice

[hard widget]

Ask WCL what happened kekw

They're griefing

[willow knoll]

what is the best opener for aoe

?

[quaint elbow]

I mean, we got more than enough fury warriors in my raid. Guess I'll do rashanan as arms and slap that bitch ST mode

[warm crag]

sure king

you could do your part and ST fury it to ruin the top logs on that fight and get it allstar disabled faster

spear that fucker

[quaint elbow]

Lol

Don't blame the padder, blame the logger

XD

[keen vigil]

how to make adds on 2nd boss mythic spawn all together and close to boss so we can cleave everything?

[warm crag]

cant

buy a lottery ticket

[keen vigil]

do you target boss and cleave or you turn on adds?

[hybrid umbra]

yo guys

which is better for m+ and which for raiding

[latent hedge]

a different class 👍

[warm crag]

copy the wowhead talents for whatever content you're doing

wait did you just copy crit's brood prog talents or what happened here

[hybrid umbra]

both are crit's but I'm not sure about the purpose of each of them

[warm crag]

refer to this

[hybrid umbra]

ok thx dude

[fervent yoke]

Which nerfs to fury have gone live so far?

[dense sedge]

y'all using two on sue for m+ too?

[warm crag]

not really

some might be testing it

[dense sedge]

Just raid

[warm crag]

first two #updates-midnight

idk what higher keymen are doing they might be playing treacherous mandate

[willow knoll]

hey guys what is the best oppener for aoe

?

reck charge, avatar roar then bladestorm?

[warm crag]

noxiv's playing skarmorak treach so ye

[dense sedge]

itneresting

[warm crag]

ye sounds abt right if you want a lot of aoe burst damage quickly

can throw in a rampage for more prio damage

[ripe tinsel]

what ilvl should i be to do the let me solo him achievement? im 613 with 4p

[rough tulip]

we gonna catch a nerf every single week?

[tawny shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[weary sail]

“Fury AoE is OP in M+ so it needs nerf” - Blizzard 🤡

[shadow flame]

Blizzard never tunes on m+, we were doom to be nerfed

[agile nexus]

was gonna say

fury feels pretty bad on m+

without aoe cds

i hit like a wet noodle

[dense sedge]

ouch tha hurt bro

[shadow flame]

design a bursty spec with no sustained damage but also design a raid with short lived adds every 45 sec

genious

[weary sail]

The bosses that fury is good at arent even the important bosses anyway

I feel like its just padded dmg

[quiet geyser]

Last boss???

[weary sail]

Rather have a Frost DK

[quiet geyser]

Saying fury isnt good on queen is bogus though

[feral ivy]

isnt the picture butter just points not dmg so its pointless picture

[warm crag]

its literally being played on the final boss as a 1-2 of

[warm crag]

ye useless metric

[shadow flame]

fury is probably the best suited spec for queen

just look at the nature of the fight

[serene vessel]

I don't think a single real person who knows what they're talking about thinks fury is OP in m+

[warm crag]

ye fury was very specifically not nerfed because of its m+ performance lol

[feral ivy]

no one thinks we are OP in m+ we are just in a okay spot

[shadow flame]

not really

if you consider how much utility we are not bringing

[serene vessel]

Which is funny because the nerfs hurt m+ more than raid

[rough tulip]

why cant they just let us be good?

[shadow flame]

we are outclassed by retri for instance in both damage and utility

[weary sail]

Fury literally has almost 0 utility. Bring medicore damage, and now they are nerfing our burst aoe even more

[shadow flame]

this has been the case for ages now

[weary sail]

I dont get it

Rip M+

[heady laurel]

is therea even a fury/warrior dev?

[agile nexus]

But ok so its not only me that sucks at M+

good to know

[serene vessel]

Ok ti be fair fury doesn't have almost 0 utility

[warm crag]

you have the best aoe stun in the game get a grip

[agile nexus]

because im running 9s and im doing shit damage

[warm crag]

this is a skill issue not a fury issue

[shadow flame]

I don't think there are specific class devs anymore

[agile nexus]

honestly fair

[heady laurel]

didnt think so

[feral ivy]

i mean if u cant time a 9 atm u shouldnt be saying warriors are bad

[serene vessel]

Best aoe stun, a buff, commanding shout still super underrated

[agile nexus]

i can time 10s

im saying my dps feels bad

outside cds

odyn and roar

[warm crag]

yaa thats what fury does now

[feral ivy]

because thats our class

[serene vessel]

But yes the nerfs are dumb

[shadow flame]

lol what are even talking about, look at critcake for instance. He is getting outdpsed by Qrva with Qrva on suboptimal trinkets (every key)

[agile nexus]

Specially on high keys there is a lot of chain pulling so half the time i do 0 damage

[dense sedge]

yeah bro you just described our damage profile

[warm crag]

yes but crit is not doing "shit" damage by any means

does qrva win st every boss?

[serene vessel]

This is a route issue if I'm being honest (which is expected in pugs)

[weary sail]

maybe next expansion boys

[warm crag]

does qrva funnel damage as well as crit does in those keys?

[agile nexus]

thats shit then

is not only skill, clearly the class is not balanced optimally for M+

whats a good dps according to you on M+

[serene vessel]

Err fury doesbt funnel

[dense sedge]

I mean i quite regularly come top dps in keys still>

I'm only 2.45k rating mind but if you play optimally

[sour abyss]

Good thing stops didn't get nerfed so that mobs all (in unison) begin chain casting whatever was just aoe stunned.

[feral ivy]

^

[warm crag]

fury hitting one guy harder than others is technically funnel

[serene vessel]

No that's prio

Funnel is when bringing more mobs in makes ur prio damage higher

Fury can't do that

[shadow flame]

the point is not "shit" damage, the point is how much less damage we bring and how much less utility we bring. Keep in mind we are getting AOE nerfed again

[heavy galleon]

I hope they heard us or change our shiting 4P

[weary sail]

Theres almost no reason to bring fury in M+ when you can bring Frost DK, Enhance, Ass Rogue etc for melee

[warm crag]

this discord has cried for years for shockwave to return or become more accessible just for people to say "umm stunning enemies for 3 seconds and disrupting them is actually a detriment"

[agile nexus]

yeah, like compared to ret paladins i dont see in what case a fury would be superior

[serene vessel]

Fury has decent prio dam

[dense sedge]

Dont forget ret

[serene vessel]

But enh funnels

[thorny shoal]

its so huge too with the extra node below it, i love it

[serene vessel]

(I think frost dk also funnels)

[agile nexus]

also having 1 1/2 defensives do not help

[earnest grail]

wdym? Shockwave is a good utility, but DH + Monk + Shaman have a similar too

[warm crag]

are you calling warrior squishy?

[earnest grail]

and deal more dps

[agile nexus]

Fury, yes

[feral ivy]

LOL

[warm crag]

LMAO

[serene vessel]

Ok this is where you're way wrong. The only dps class tankier thsn fury is fdk

[feral ivy]

LOL

[agile nexus]

on a 10 the first boss without defensives one shots

[feral ivy]

ignore goodone clearly he has no idea what hes talking about

[earnest grail]

Warrior is tanky, but a m+ Mob will one hit you anyway 😄

[shadow flame]

Enha has literally so much utility and brings so much more damage now

[warm crag]

good thing you have a big selection with many of them being on demand or low cd

[earnest grail]

The new Shaman buff is insane, i mean, 3% Mastery for everyone

[warm crag]

ontop of having extra hp and impending victory as a free pot every 20s

[serene vessel]

2%

[agile nexus]

bro i came into the discord looking for m+ advice, i get shit from 2 members for stating an opinion, if im wrong just say how im wrong ill take constructive advice

[earnest grail]

we only give AP buff and a Tank can give it as wel

[agile nexus]

if you use this discord to shit on new warrior players then why the fuck are you even here

[earnest grail]

thank you for correcting me 🙂 Wasn sure

[eager thorn]

And enraged regen

Free full hp over a few seconds

[shadow flame]

people being salty just ignore them

[serene vessel]

Ok well word of advice, don't spout misinformation if you're uninformed

[feral ivy]

if u are asking a question then there is no reason to shit on and we didnt but u stated a something

[eager thorn]

While giving dr

[warm crag]

genuine advice: if you think fury is squishy then you do genuinely need to take a look at what defensive utility we have

[eager thorn]

Spell reflect is p good

[serene vessel]

Fury is the 2nd tankiest dps

[earnest grail]

im still liking my Fury Warrior in Solo Content, because not even Elite Rar Mobs are Lethal Enemys to me. But in M+? Bruh, i have bad news for ya

[spiral shell]

It’s not that deep bro

[eager thorn]

Defensive stance in itself is situationally good

[agile nexus]

i said we have 1 1/2 defensives and fury feels squishy, how is that misinformation

[warm crag]

rally saves lives in keys if used properly, spellreflect is a super short 20% dr, you have dstance at will

ER is really good

[earnest grail]

rally is pretty useless tbh

[warm crag]

you have a free pot with impending victory every 24s

[serene vessel]

Spell reflect, defensive stance, enraged regen?

[warm crag]

what do you consider tanky if fury is not tanky??

[earnest grail]

selfheal is no utility

[agile nexus]

Shitty ass discord if you have people insulting just cause new people to the class give feedback on how they feel the class

[feral ivy]

thats not a question so when we respond to that in a "mean" way thats ur fault

[serene vessel]

Having higher base hp than almost every other class?

[earnest grail]

ah nvm, i was on the wrong Topic

[rough tulip]

bro just say ur not cut out for the warrior life

[spiral shell]

LOL

[dense sedge]

Bro do you even bonk?

[serene vessel]

Plate so phys damage hits you the lowest?

How is fury squishy

[sour abyss]

We are super durable. So we can live to the end of the fight and still end up dead last ST to prove a point.

[warm crag]

genuine question, what do you consider tanky if you consider fury to not be tanky?

[earnest grail]

haha

[feral ivy]

i will survive more than A LOT of classes.. just fuck pallys for having bubble

[weary sail]

“Nah bro just get gud” - the fury bros here shitting on new players and think thats good advice

[agile nexus]

For real, not until they get called out are now giving backhanded advice

[warm crag]

answer me

[feral ivy]

thats a good question

[warm crag]

you cant ignore the ppl trying to give you advice while only focusing on ppl that (somewhat fairly) dunk on the opinion that fury is not tanky

[agile nexus]

im not gonna engage with someone thats flamming on discord over a videogame, class discord is supposed to help second time i use this chat and for saying that i feel weak playing the class 3 people jump to insult

you included

[feral ivy]

...

[warm crag]

im asking a fairly simple and direct question that you have several avenues of engaging with

[rough tulip]

dude didn't even ask a question? all he said was hes bad at m+ and warrior is squishy

[spiral shell]

Y u so emotional bro it’s really not that serious

[weary sail]

Sick constructive advices

[warm crag]

yes doing low damage in 9s tends to be a skill issue

i am willing to discuss why

[earnest grail]

whats 9s ?

[sour abyss]

You should all redirect this anger at each other towards the forums instead and join us in ranting about the nerfs. It worked for shamans.

[warm crag]

i still want an answer about why fury is squishy and which classes are tanky in comparison

[dense sedge]

You know what I have never moaned about nerfs the whole time but i may join you on this

[eager thorn]

I mean it kinda is though

It could be boiled down to things like you’re doing rotation wrong instead of being said like that

But tldr its a performance issue not class

[weary sail]

We are middle of the pack at best theres no reason why they keep nerfing us

[earnest grail]

what is "9s" ? 9+ Keys?

[spiral shell]

Yes

[earnest grail]

ah okay

[agile nexus]

of course it could be but you have not even any idea how much damage i did yet people love to jump and critique

[feral ivy]

honestly thought u were joking

[fierce acorn]

fury 101, stack in the middle of mob pack, have enrage 100% uptime, make sure cleave stacks are there, crushing blow on proc. win?\

[earnest grail]

we dont call it here "9s" - We prefer 9+ 🤷‍♂️

[eager thorn]

You said shit damage which kinda insinuates not good?

[agile nexus]

i wanted advice on rotation for M+ i leave having read 0 useful things except one

[sour abyss]

What actually happens is fury warriors get punished for having to be the most skilled at maximizing out burst windows during fights. We have precise SECONDS of fights where we can sneak some burst in to stay relevant on charts.

[inner zinc]

you didnt ask for advice, you said you did shit dmg

[warm crag]

which classes are tanky in comparison to fury?

[rough tulip]

u didnt ask for any advice dude u just complained about being ass

post logs & ask properly

[dense sedge]

I think DK is pretty tanky personally

Just to chime in 🙂

[weary sail]

Fury was blowing up adds in heroics raid and now blizzard is blowing up our class

[agile nexus]

I need advice BECAUSE i feel ass

[gray void]

WOOOOO

WE MADE IT

[earnest grail]

tbh, this Discord helped me alot to play my Class better. Just be kind and you will get help as well

[warm crag]

you also ignored the advice to look into what defensives fury has access to you cant really say that you read nothing useful king

[dense sedge]

Master Bonk

[fierce acorn]

fury 101, stack in the middle of mob pack, have enrage 100% uptime, make sure cleave stacks are there, crushing blow on proc. win?\

[buoyant salmon]

we calling fury squishy now

how clueless do you have to be

[earnest grail]

BB on more then 5+ Targets

[buoyant salmon]

like genuinely

[earnest grail]

instead of CB

[warm crag]

ye sure ams is very powerful thats a class that can compete with fury in tankiness

[buoyant salmon]

dk is the only class that can compete

but they lose a lot of damage deathstriking if ever in cds

[warm crag]

im 90% sure they meant fury doesnt have a cheat death

[humble plover]

Fury super squishy and does no DPS blizzard give buffs plz 😉

[buoyant salmon]

where we dont lose nearly as much

cheat death is fake tankiness though

[earnest grail]

one of two is right

[warm crag]

i will never know as they didnt take the bait

[buoyant salmon]

its obviously very good but fury doesnt need one bc you are immune to dying

[dense sedge]

Yeah dk's are little cowards too

[vale dove]

on Rasha'nan Mythic yall just saving cds for adds on pull?

[inner zinc]

and paladins. Imagine needing magic

[humble plover]

Sender bud

[vast shadow]

When you throw odyn's fury does it get the enrage dmg increase or does dmg come before the enrage effect?

[buoyant salmon]

use on pull

[agile nexus]

lol

[inner zinc]

pretty sure it enrages first then does its thing

[buoyant salmon]

watch a kill pull from revvez or riku or whoever

[warm crag]

if you have two fury warriors in raid you kinda want to desync cds

[buoyant salmon]

to see optimal prog cd usage timers

[earnest grail]

the only way i die in m+, is cuz of aggro. Imagine a Tank cant hold bad fury dps threat

[hard widget]

Poggers

[nimble ibex]

Did blizzard change their minds about third fury nerf yet ? 🥴

[warm crag]

please i still am dying to know what you think is tankier than fury

[buoyant salmon]

doesnt rlly matter for rashanan, but i agree especially for brood

[iron portal]

You no longer purple i see

[buoyant salmon]

patch is a month away

[hard widget]

Yeah i stopped stream

[humble plover]

Paid simps. Reported

[buoyant salmon]

hasnt been anything new posted since yesterday

[vale dove]

ye we was playing 1 fury and 1 arms but the adds are not dieing fast enough supposedly

💀

[warm crag]

idk especially with ppl noticeably stopping hitting adds after it got removed for logs you do really wanna minmax adds dying

[nimble ibex]

Oh I thought it was for this coming week

[buoyant salmon]

yeah that can be true for aure

sure

our adds couldve been sus a bit since grom and i both played arms

destro ruination owns tho

[gaunt moat]

being dead last spec as single target is killing me inside

[warm crag]

also go get an aug to timelessness you

[gaunt moat]

[warm crag]

spec arms king

[glossy burrow]

do you play mountain thane in m+ this week?

[buoyant salmon]

no

you can but slayer is better

especially on bosses

[fierce acorn]

also instead of being a goober and stacking full haste mastery, where can I find the break points?

[buoyant salmon]

no real breakpoints sim topgear

[humble plover]

Listen to the robot

[formal scaffold]

This is a lot of thinking for a Fury warrior. More zugging, less math. 😛

[warm crag]

sim it with top gear and droptimizers, breakpoints arent a relevant thing to know anymore

[fierce acorn]

im zigging instead of zugging fosho, just gotta touch sand

[sudden tusk]

we are now last in boss damage

lmao

[humble plover]

Play better

[earnest grail]

thats not helpful tho

[weary sail]

This gotta be fake

No way

[earnest grail]

its real

[sudden tusk]

thats 99th percentile as well

[weary sail]

[humble plover]

For all fights?

[earnest grail]

yes

[warm crag]

fury is garbanzo in ST and good players will swap arms for ST

[earnest grail]

its overall

[warm crag]

more news at 11

[glossy burrow]

where you looking?

[weary sail]

How is arms in AoE

[sudden tusk]

first one is all damage

[humble plover]

Idk I feel like we do okish st. It's hard to tell on logs tho cause we run aoe on all but 2 bosses and one of them is designed giga bad for fury

[sudden tusk]

second is damage to bosses

[warm crag]

not good

[glossy burrow]

i see

[weary sail]

Bro dead last in ST? Thats actually kinda wild

[warm crag]

at least aoe isnt what you'd bring arms for

[weary sail]

[earnest grail]

better nerf warrior

[frank dawn]

Fury be good for more than one week challenge (impossible)

[gaunt moat]

yeah it's killing me i feel like i'm a burden on sikran and princess

[inner zinc]

is arms aoe worst than fury st?

[weary sail]

Not asking to be OP, can we just be middle of the pack

[warm crag]

ok you're legit all getting baited by charts aggregating entire raid data

[weary sail]

Dead last in ST is big sad

[warm crag]

fury is almost exclusively being brought to sync up their cds with add spawns

[brittle crow]

you WILL be op in heroic week and you WILL be nerfed into the ground to compensate

and you will be happy

[warm crag]

of course it will look worse in boss damage

[weary sail]

How do Fury looks overall

[plucky ice]

[weary sail]

Not boss damage

[warm crag]

probably bad after rashanan add removal

[glossy burrow]

getting worse

[weary sail]

So why we getting nerfed???

[glossy burrow]

ret pallys dodging nerfs tho?

[plucky ice]

blizz is incompetent

that's why

[glossy burrow]

feels like they outperform me hard in m+

[warm crag]

i'd at least like some explanation for what they're going for with that nerf

[plucky ice]

seems they have no idea what they want fury to be

yep

[warm crag]

the first two nerfs make sense#

[velvet leaf]

our dmg profile is perfect for the raid... so they nerf us

[sudden tusk]

Frost DK, Mage, Rogue, Ret, Shaman, you name a class

they are now better then us

[slow vapor]

Are you guys actually zuggers? Just fuckin pump

[weary sail]

If we arent top anymore in AoE, and literally dead last in single target, why are they nerfing us even further???

[slow vapor]

None of us can read

[lapis eagle]

arakara

[serene vessel]

Crazy you guys are asking why ret dodged nerfs and not fdk

[feral ivy]

damn

[warm crag]

but the target cap reduction with them misspelling warbreaker is sending me over the moon

[clever path]

Fury could also use a real tier set

[oblique trail]

I will put you on a rocket and send you further than just the moon

[weary sail]

Also, why are they nerfing Arms what the hell?

[warm crag]

most ppl have garbage tier sets

[glossy burrow]

yeah whats with the set

[weary sail]

Why is Arms catching stray with nerfs

[plucky ice]

that too, tier also ultra dog

[weary sail]

Lol

[glossy burrow]

does the set even make sens with our rotation

[warm crag]

we're not unique with an ass set

[glossy burrow]

?

[quaint elbow]

Because only mage is allowed to be happy. Shut up and take the nerf. -Actual Blizzard Dev

[oblique trail]

Yes, we utilise it by playing our rotation as normal

It just naturally plays into it

[serene vessel]

I mean this is just one of the most unbalanced tiers they've ever had i think

[warm crag]

i mean this nerf isnt targetting this prog at all

[weary sail]

“These fury warrior dare to switch to arms after we nerf fury, lets nerf arms too”

No reason why Arms getting nerf

[quaint elbow]

Now you're getting it LMAO

[warm crag]

i doubt it'll hit before rwf and a lot of kills have happened

[fierce acorn]

id rather play dk or ret than arms lol

[sour abyss]

💀

[serene vessel]

I group tier in for the entire patch.

But like look at pres vs any other healer lmao

[warm crag]

idk i dont care as soon as prog is over

[clever path]

Yes you're right but compare us to ret or frost set's, they have flat % dmg augmentation while we have...... a bit on ramp and cb ?

[weary sail]

You can see Liquid and Echo arent even stacking heavy warriors for AoE fight, they are stacking frost DK

[glossy burrow]

I want to play two characters but valorstones not being warbond and having to wait for finding m+ groups is not that fun rn

[serene vessel]

I don't raid

[warm crag]

who cares if you're a tiny bit weaker in reclear #28

[gaunt moat]

yh if they don't nerf frost dk soon i don't understand anything anymore

[warm crag]

i mean then you should just not be playing fury right now sorry lmao

[serene vessel]

I m+

[warm crag]

ye reroll now so you're not behind in gear so hard

[serene vessel]

Fury was good there

[glossy burrow]

is fdk dw or 2h rn?

[warm crag]

dualwield afaik

[velvet leaf]

dw

[weary sail]

If you wanna be FOTM in M+, go Frost DK

[sage ridge]

Anyone have the issue with literally no queues when you list your key?

[serene vessel]

Dw I'm already gearing my fire mage again

[restive granite]

assa rogues are beyond broken too

[velvet leaf]

dw breath is bis atm

[glossy burrow]

i started with dk, but switched to fury cuz its more fun

[warm crag]

unless its 7 9 or 10 you might take some time to fill it

[quaint elbow]

Same

[weary sail]

Hold up, theres like 5 melee classes that are better than us. Frost DK, ass rogue, enhance, unholy DK, Ret etc

[glossy burrow]

breath of sindragosa is so ass, i hate that spell i hope they will remove it at some point

[weary sail]

But we the one getting nerf

[sage ridge]

I was just asking cause I am literally getting no one for a +6 NW

[midnight jackal]

buff ST + Whirlwind aoe shared damage and increase cap to 5-6 instead of 4. Then the change would make a bit more sense

[orchid dagger]

What part of "fuck brown class" didn't you get the first time

[clever path]

I don't like to let down a spec cuz it's badly tunned, fury is in a sad spot BUT it's still a lot of fun so zug zug

[plucky ice]

blizz saw normal raid logs and decided to nerf fury lmao

[warm crag]

valid

[clever path]

Frost DK is op but my god it's so boring to play

[weary sail]

[restive granite]

POOP=BROWN
WARRIOR=BROWN CLASS

[clever path]

Like I'm no 80 yo

And frost is a veteran spec

[warm crag]

you all know the target cap reduction nerf is like months away right

[humble plover]

S3 enjoyers when they bring back OF and nerf it

[warm crag]

if it even goes live

[earnest grail]

insert "its the same picture meme" here

[plucky ice]

expect the worst when it comes to blizz

[weary sail]

Still doesnt make sense why Fury getting nerfed

[hard lily]

Is it even planned now? The latest post I saw on wowhead didn't have it

[orchid dagger]

It'll go live if we don't go full mage

[warm crag]

idk this discord has

[quaint elbow]

Gotta get organized

[thorny shoal]

can we crowdfund a mage/warlock whine course so we know how to handle nerfs in the future and possibly get them reverted or at the very least compensated?

[glossy burrow]

i saw it during work but dunno where it is now

[orchid dagger]

[clever path]

And that's even more stupid when you think about it

[tulip swallow]

Need a big enough gaslighting campaign to convince people fury is tank damage

[quaint elbow]

The mages are always OP cuz they're smart intelectuals that whine a lot

[warm crag]

its only on ptr might just not go live at all

[clever path]

"yeah fury is doing too much dmg so we'll nerf it......... In 4 weeks*

[quaint elbow]

If we just keep zugging on, we'll get zugged in the ass by blizz

[orchid dagger]

Nah we are just above Aug lol

[warm crag]

idk how blizz behaves with PTR patch cycles and what goes live though

[hard lily]

Yeah I saw it yesterday but the latest posts don't mention it at all so I'm confused

[midnight jackal]

I mean sure it may not go live but the intent is there

[spare steppe]

Our ST is utter garbage

[covert void]

genuinely need more crybabies on the forums. the irony is other classes call people that to get baits but crying about changes works. Paladins etc. do it in force.

[tulip swallow]

Squeaky wheel gets the grease

[clever path]

Destroying your keyboard in raid just to end up behind everyone else

[covert void]

lmao

[humble plover]

Love that feeling

[midnight jackal]

like I said, buff ST + WW cleave (also increase target cap) then you can better control burst via cds instead of being 100% reliant on it

[spare steppe]

The best feeling

[quaint elbow]

Orange and pink logs? Fuck you, get owned by these blue logs and stfu

[glossy burrow]

what do you guys think of the "marked for execution?" talent/mechanic?

it's so inconsistent

[restive granite]

Yeah would help if after every nerf weve gotten so far ppl werent "iTs OnLy a 3% pErCeNt NeRf StOp DoOmInG"

[tulip swallow]

INCREDIBLY annoying that it doesn't reset between boss pulls

[clever path]

"GOD I'VE SMASHED MY SPELLS SO HARD THIS FIGHT I MUST BE TOP DAMA.... I'm 12th"

[covert void]

to be fair there's a thread on general eu, and a fair few in warrior section. It's whatever, but there's some traction now. I'd advise you all go post and cry.

[tulip swallow]

I love having my sudden death proc at only one stack of the debuff

[hard widget]

Nobody stops u from waiting for another stack

[covert void]

you gearing your dk yet? 😂

[hard widget]

Nono haha

[tulip swallow]

The RNG on the cdr also feels bad sometimes, but usually it's fine

[warm crag]

i dont think cdr variance is too high unless you play AM on broodkeeper

[covert void]

I'm all in still tbf. Might fuck with arms for raid. Surely they see sense with the 'new' nerf and it never happens. as said above it is months away.

[warm crag]

but i think RA is better post nerf

[glossy burrow]

what is the chance of marked for execution stack?

[tulip swallow]

It's high enough that sometimes I have it for certain mechanics and sometimes it's like 10 seconds late

[glossy burrow]

sometimes im stuck at like 2 stacks forever lol

[tulip swallow]

and that's kind of tragic

[spare steppe]

Damn pres getting the hammer

[quaint elbow]

Let's go guys, FORUMS RAID https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/unbelievable-changes/1968865

[clever path]

Too many shit in Arms wtf is this, unaligned CDs ? Nah nah nah

[sour abyss]

I'd say staying fury for the parses is still the play, but post nerfs will we even be able to hit the numbers out right now?

[quaint elbow]

MAKE SOME NOOOISE

[plucky ice]

it's like a bit over a month away so not that long, tbh

[glossy burrow]

banned from forums bro

[warm crag]

pres is dead

200% hps nerf

[velvet leaf]

eu here, can't post on us forum t_t

[covert void]

I've not looked at it at all, is it that bad?

[warm crag]

shouldnt desync too hard

[restive granite]

iTs a 3% NeRf bRo ChiLl

[plucky ice]

anniversary is Nov 1 and the patch comes before that

[tulip swallow]

CS doesn't like to line up with things but otherwise it's mostly ok

[sour abyss]

And target capping TR and OF

[covert void]

there's a warrior one in general eu.

[warm crag]

dont really care much about aligning arms cds anymore

you hold bs for 10s ig

[tulip swallow]

it's better to just send them but it feels real weird

[warm crag]

ya takes some readjustment

i love never dropping below 50 rage in execute tho this is very cool gameplay

[covert void]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/blizzard-are-you-kidding-us-warriors/

for eu bros

[frank dawn]

unleash all your rampages on the forums

go go go

[sour abyss]

@warm crag do you mainline fury or just play w/e is bis?

[covert void]

wait, scroll up to start obv.

[warm crag]

whatever's better for the fight

[covert void]

I'm just waffling for the most part to get traction.

and because I'm a crybaby ofc.

[warm crag]

tends to be fury rn

[sour abyss]

It feels like it. Do you agree there's some fundamental issues with these changes? Or are you gonna shrug it off and jump arms when it becomes better?

[warm crag]

first 2 nerfs were fine the one on PTR is very grief

[clever path]

It's not horrible, but I don't like the way arms cds works rn + demolish is an awful button to press but is flavorfull

[glossy burrow]

what is the most accurate m+ tier list in your opinion?

[sour frigate]

your own

[glossy burrow]

xd

[clever path]

If u go slayer y

[buoyant salmon]

yodas is the best tier list ive seen but i still disagree with some things

[velvet leaf]

dorki's is good

[buoyant salmon]

tier lists are just fundamentally flawed

[warm crag]

colossus is just grief in raid or

[covert void]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/tier-list/dps-rankings/mythic-plus/10/all-dungeons/this-week

is pretty good. based off of runs.

week by week.

[clever path]

Colossus is grief in M+ too

You can endup behind tank on bosses xd

[buoyant salmon]

for being agregate data that isnt that bad

[buoyant salmon]

no its not

[warm crag]

king

[low phoenix]

is fury fucked after the upcoming nerf?

[warm crag]

probably ye

[tulip swallow]

it's going to be pretty bad

[hard widget]

They are sacred bro wdym?!

[glossy burrow]

doesnt look so bad for fury

[clever path]

Compare to slayer ? The difference seems massive

[spare steppe]

It’s more like “why do they do us dirty”