fury

[nimble kraken]

In hero atleast I feel like the adds are super freebies. We had a few deaths but I think that was just peeps standing still to their fixated adds

[restive peak]

Or if you're really poor, to improve

[humble plover]

I pad so everyone else has an easier time

[nimble kraken]

Any decent movement and adds are just dust

[runic violet]

of course rashanan is a ST boss.

[lost saffron]

had 1,9M dps on yesterdays kill 😦

[runic violet]

adds disappear in a sec with OF

[restive peak]

No 2m?

[lost saffron]

log its 900k

unlucky

[restive peak]

Not even trying

[summer quail]

@nimble kraken don't worry mate, i know the adds have to die. just memeing warcraft logs

[olive wraith]

You lost 1m?

[nimble kraken]

I’ve been successfully memed

[olive wraith]

Your group just didn’t hit ads I guess

[dry hawk]

this is teh other situation and I see shiny and send the rampage. Now I understand thats just 100% wrong

[lone sage]

since wcl are not considering adds what happened to old logs with insane dmg?

[restive peak]

Can turn that off GGs

In settings

[dry hawk]

the spell Opacity thing?

[humble plover]

Ye

[restive peak]

Yep

[rotund ginkgo]

#updates-midnight

@restive peak is it a fdk or a ret reroll angle? :3

[orchid dagger]

Absolutely

[rotund ginkgo]

wym absolutely

my question is which one

[orchid dagger]

Yes

[rotund ginkgo]

real

[frank dawn]

FDK multi-target AMS and Grips are pretty damn good + obviously their damage

[rotund ginkgo]

blue warrior or yellow warrior

i dont mind either of their playstyles, just wanna kinda figure it out

[orchid dagger]

Just not the brown one lol

[dry hawk]

that was 100% the difference

[south kayak]

What's the mouseover macro

[summer quail]

fdk. ret you have to do extra utility stuff like saccing or bopping people

that sounds like as

ass

[dry hawk]

because now ramp/cb/bb are within 2 casts of each other

[rotund ginkgo]

thats true but i can also immune

[summer quail]

fdk is also just more fun imo

[rotund ginkgo]

idm either, between the two i havent played new fdk so idk how it feels

[stable frost]

But fdk you have to deal with sindragosas yeah? And that also sounds like ass

[dry hawk]

that feels gross how different that is

[rotund ginkgo]

i liked obli in legion

but i hated breath in df

[feral ivy]

@restive peak was in a key so i couldnt ask this earlier. you said in lower keys u cant tell if over all dmg is good because it depends on pulls. do you think thats why people are getting mad and saying warriors atm are crap because lower keys it just looks low because of crap pulls from tanks

[rotund ginkgo]

if anything in lower keys we look big

cuz shit dies fast

[south kayak]

I remember a mouseover macro for BT to gain Enrage with Fresh Meat back in SL

what was it

[orchid dagger]

Breath basically is full uptime iirc

[rotund ginkgo]

@orchid dagger heard its not like that anymore

[feral ivy]

but tanks be pulling pack per pack

[olive wraith]

It’s also relatively early in the season so pulls are smaller

[summer quail]

sindragosa is different now, way shorter duration but does more damage

[orchid dagger]

REE

[stable frost]

Those are two very different responses lmao

[dense elbow]

Then help the tank

[rotund ginkgo]

id rather breath be a short burst

than a 2min hold it

[summer quail]

ye breath is way better now imo. no more infinite breath

[modest condor]

you have cooldowns -> tank pulls 3 mobs -> you use cooldowns because fuck sitting on them for 30 seconds -> tank pulls 2 packs together -> your damage is shit

[rotund ginkgo]

ah thats true

yeah that does happen

[dense elbow]

Silm, heroic throw

use it

[stable frost]

Every fucking time

[torn cobalt]

yo quick question

[dry hawk]

aight now to attempt a ST run

[olive wraith]

Then you have a caster mob angry at you for the whole pull

[turbid gate]

What talent builds are you guys running for mythic ovinax?

[dense elbow]

Ranged problem

[torn cobalt]

anyone has like a picture of they ability bars with keybinds? i would like to make mine easy to press as i am kinda new

[modest condor]

bring back titanic throw

[summer quail]

@stable frost top fdk on sikran had 24% uptime on breath

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t just copy someone’s binds everyone is diff

[modest condor]

if i were to copy someone's keybinds and they use shift modifiers i would quit wow over hand pains really quickly

[torn cobalt]

ik i was thinking maybe someone already like tought it off and made an easy bar for people to have it

you don't use shift ctrl and alt modifiers?

[olive wraith]

Nah what’s comfortable for you might not be for someone else

[modest condor]

i didnt say that

i said shift

[orchid dagger]

he doesn't know about the secret pinky Ctrl tech

[tiny hare]

guys actually had nightmares about warrior nerf

[modest condor]

i use alt modifiers

[tiny hare]

is it over for me

[modest condor]

because with how i position my hand shift is almost impossible to reach but my thumb passively rests on alt anyway

[orchid dagger]

Ret, FDK & Havoc are over there

[modest condor]

and someone else may be the exact opposite

[torn cobalt]

it's what you get used to 😄

everything becomes muscle memory

in the end

[orchid dagger]

I mean I mousewheel up Impending Victory

[delicate yacht]

now aint this some luck

[torn cobalt]

i have my heals on shift modifiers usually...

[dense elbow]

Place your hand over the wasd area - then feel out what buttons you can easilly reach. For most that is 1-6, then qwerty, asdfg,zxcvb. Then try to localise the spam abilities on the right hand side - so you use your index or ring finger for them. Causes less stress.
This is all based on your hand anatomy and keyboard. So you kinds just got to figure it out. But ertfg345 and xcv are premium for me personaly

[dry hawk]

why does ST feel like CB needs hit before BB but both still need punched

[amber shuttle]

for crafted weap and bracers, vers/mastery or haste/mastery?

[dry hawk]

because I just did more to this dummy with the "dont hit Ramp before BB or CB" on ST than a boss

[delicate yacht]

because they buff each other sequentially

[dense elbow]

Either or, vers/mast for more burst for sure

You can always change the stats later when you geear

so dont worry about it :v

[orchid dagger]

Pvp wants vers/mast, but idk about pve's ask the robot

[dense elbow]

Ragish being toxic?

I would never have known

[rotund ginkgo]

2nd pack of city of threads

[tender sky]

In practice in ST, outside of cooldowns, you spend the reckless abandon buffs and then spam cb until your enrage ends or you get close to rage cap

[rotund ginkgo]

@dense elbow wym? i said buddy

i was nice

[dense elbow]

Buddy, that aint nice mate

[delicate yacht]

augs have a kick ?

[rotund ginkgo]

dont call me mate pal

[rotund ginkgo]

[tender sky]

Randomly knocking things up with their core rotation is their interrupt

[rotund ginkgo]

i take first twist thoughts
druid and monk overlap second cast
shaman takes third cast
shaman dies to fourth cast cuz aug is sleeping on his kick

[delicate yacht]

yeah but it doesn't load into that section of details

[rotund ginkgo]

u cant cc something thats immune to cc

that add has to be kicked

too much brainpower for aug

[dense elbow]

sounds like a healer job to me

[tender sky]

I was joking - Aug is too galaxy brain for most fotm rerollers

[rotund ginkgo]

healer's interrupt was also on cd

[tender sky]

That’s the honest truth it’s too much to think about

[rotund ginkgo]

KEKW

[tender sky]

You can joke all you want but the situational awareness you need to be actually good at Aug is just higher than most dps have

[rotund ginkgo]

god tier screengrab

[delicate yacht]

👏 interrupting 👏 isn't 👏 our 👏 job , we spin to win

[nimble kraken]

I mean even with the aug not kicking you shouldn’t be at 50%

[dry hawk]

that damage profile changerd hella quick

did a 2 minute pull like we'd do on boss and did 100k+ more

just because the casts were all together

[dim pecan]

You've been watching me play this week

[rotund ginkgo]

@dense elbow the best part is that the first one that went through was ON HIM and he didnt interrupt it

[tender sky]

👍🏼 doing the rotation correctly does result in lots more damage!

[rotund ginkgo]

then he died

so the second cast went through cuz everyones kicks were on cd

[dry hawk]

ye

thank you guys for not trolling and help me out

I appreciate it

[rotund ginkgo]

this one's also pretty good

[fickle cedar]

why isnt your crushing blow higher tho

[tender sky]

I think it’s pretty wild honestly how much difference 1 or 2 changes in rotation makes in overall damage

[dry hawk]

I have like no mastery, i'm crit heavy hell

[delicate yacht]

blood bath #1, uuuuuWuuuuut

[tender sky]

It goes over most peoples heads when discussing secondaries and shit that doesn’t matter relative to hitting your buttons in the right order

Dropping your crit for mastery isn’t going to turn into a 100k dps boost

[mystic brook]

anyone know a good weakaura that isnt afenar or luxthos?

[dry hawk]

True, but just seeing that your not supposed to smack ramp until those 2 are gone were crazy to me

[grizzled spindle]

I like doctorio

[calm quartz]

Sub to atrocity

[tender sky]

Yeah it’s not exactly intuitive when the lighty uppy button lights up!

[calm quartz]

#ad

[restive peak]

110% it is

[dry hawk]

That particular screenshot I had missed two casts

[mystic brook]

does it have Marked for Execution tracker?

[fickle cedar]

yeah and order is kinda important on aoe m+, you wanna bloodbath first after the rampage for reap the storms proc, and then crushing

not on st tho obv

[grizzled spindle]

Yes

[buoyant salmon]

key isnt over yet

but yeah fury is really bad rn

idk who it was that said frost mage is better

[fickle cedar]

I mean its jev, he's goated, but it depends a lot on if you are pugging or in call

[buoyant salmon]

this is a pug

[fickle cedar]

most pugs will not pull big

how much are they pulling then lol

[buoyant salmon]

moving goalposts always love to see it

just normal tnw pulls

[burnt kelp]

people are dooming over the anniversary patch change

that are not currently in

how is that relevant

[buoyant salmon]

some ppl are

but a lot of ppl are saying that fury currently sucks

which is just factually wrong

[dry hawk]

I would think stats help the damage but you are right, doing the rotation will help you regardless of what stats you have

[fickle cedar]

oh yeah fury is fine in m+ thats just the doomers, its just not as good as fdk or ret obv

[buoyant salmon]

idk if id say obviously

i think fury and frost are pretty close

with frost being slightly better

ret is a slightly worse bc their st is lacking compared to fury in m+

[hollow garnet]

What channel is the spell reflect docs pinned?

[buoyant salmon]

its definitely in prot

probably in the faq as well but idk for sure

[fickle cedar]

fair, I just feel that on 10>= fury starts to fall due to lack of sustained damage

[buoyant salmon]

i think you mean greater than or equal to ten so 10=<

well

=10

but thats also just not true

ppl have linked damage logs from +11s +12s etc

the details i linked from jev is from an 11

[sinful spoke]

swapped to prot insta invited

ez key

[dry hawk]

So last question involving MfE procs.... When do we actually hit execute?

[humble plover]

Shield man gets invites

[burnt kelp]

ret pal does pretty well for itself

[restive peak]

Fury currently is god tier

[buoyant salmon]

ret is good i agree but their st is quite a bit worse than fury

[narrow narwhal]

3 stacks of the debuff or 2 stacks of sudden death to avoid wasting procs.
Rules are a bit shaky when sniping debuffs off of almost dead mobs

[restive peak]

OH NO HE ISNT #1 AGAINST AN EQUALLY GOOD PLAYER

anyway

[humble plover]

See that's normal looking damage. Idk wtf that jevantas ss is

[burnt kelp]

it's just a screenshot to show that rets and fury are around the same level

[iron portal]

It does help having burst every 30 seconds

[burnt kelp]

don't know why you are typing things that nobody said

[dry hawk]

Appreciated

[buoyant salmon]

but ppl say ret is significantly better

[fickle cedar]

also dont let your ashen stacks fall aside from that

[buoyant salmon]

while they are equal or a tiny bit worse bc a slightly less favorable damage spread across the dungeon

[narrow narwhal]

That first bit of info should be on the wowhead guide

[radiant kettle]

Did you watch the video?

The paladin was like 5 ilvl below with crap gear

With his warrior being min maxed out

[humble plover]

No no fury is awful 😉

[dry hawk]

That website implodes my PC

[burnt kelp]

well seems like ret is stronger than fury then

[radiant kettle]

That was the point

[lusty jungle]

dont lose hope guys, legendary for warriors in s2 SURELY

[humble plover]

[radiant kettle]

If it's as shitty as the last one, pass

[magic pebble]

no one watched the video with peoples reactions
and saying rets st is worse than fury is plain wrong

[buoyant salmon]

in their aoe talents

its plain true

we arent talking about full st in raid build

[restive peak]

So when you read godcomp details from last season, did fire mage suck?

[buoyant salmon]

when talking about m+

[lusty jungle]

assa rogues seem juicy ngl gappin me hard

[buoyant salmon]

lowkey yeah

but im pretty alone with that take

[tribal flint]

Was this basically crit cake last night

[restive peak]

It was there for a job, we're here for a job

[buoyant salmon]

feel like after the 3rd? 4th? nerf fire caught sin rogue was better

but im pretty bad with understanding aug logs so i dont really know how much damage ai gave

[restive peak]

Mage was still ranged

[buoyant salmon]

meh dont think that really matters

[restive peak]

And it was also about the PI/AI double dipping

But that's the whole point

M+ pushing is about making up for each others weaknesses

[radiant kettle]

I didn't even say fury sucked? I just said the context for that screenshot.

[restive peak]

This season we bring extreme tankiness, insane burst every 1.5m, and great ST in AOE talents

[buoyant salmon]

jeventes gapping frost mage by 1 billion damage overall but fury is beans unfortunate

[weary sail]

Why is arms getting nerfed btw

Makes no sense

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think any of the warrior changes are going to go through without any other changes

[humble plover]

Fury does suck don't let lincc tell you otherwise (I'm gaslighting gotta get back that 10 15 and 3)

[buoyant salmon]

none of them really make sense

[restive peak]

^

That's the main thing

We have no idea what else is changing

I think they're dropping our AOE and increasing our ST, and the ST hasn't been put through yet

And I support that

[weary sail]

Why would Arms even get nerfed….. its not even good

[buoyant salmon]

arms is pretty good

[nimble ermine]

arms suffers for the sins of fury padding

[radiant kettle]

Well the only way things will change is if enough people bring up issues with it. Like critcake and his video.

[restive peak]

Arms is also very strong

[buoyant salmon]

the nerf theyre getting does literally nothing

the arms specific one

the roar one is all classes

[tribal flint]

We shitty ass lead dev got gapped

[restive peak]

I mean no, PTR frequently is trickle changes

That people overreact to

[radiant kettle]

0 faith in warrior devs to just balance it on their own.

[buoyant salmon]

i agree that videos and forum/reddit posts are good

[restive peak]

The Qrva Crit pic also is missing content

context*

[buoyant salmon]

but dooming in this discord is annoying as fuck

[restive peak]

Crit has openly stated he's playing frenzied even if it's worse

Fuck I cannot type today

[humble plover]

I have been too. Just feels better

[buoyant salmon]

i play frenzied on broodkeeper

[restive peak]

And that's fine, but can't really complain about balance then, can we?

[buoyant salmon]

cant deal with my cds not being up every add set consistently

[radiant kettle]

Frenzied does feel better. /shrug

[hard widget]

Mage > fury btw

[restive peak]

Because if he was running powerful, he'd probably beat Qrva

And that's fine

You can choose to play suboptimal for enjoyment/feel, but you can't really complain about balance when you're playing suboptimally by choice

[radiant kettle]

He should beat gim already as a geared 621 vs a 616 not as geared lol

[buoyant salmon]

ah maybe warrior does suck

[restive peak]

So if a mage plays wrong talents but has 5 ilvls on you

He should beat you?

[pulsar quest]

Aug and PI nice try buddy show us the other 2 players

[buoyant salmon]

guardian hpal aug

[radiant kettle]

It's not that big of a loss playing frenzied, or maybe I'm high

[hard widget]

Mage gains more from aug then us, u do realise that ye?

[pulsar quest]

Not if you pay them 25k per run

[restive peak]

It is because our entire job is based around our burst

Frenzied = 15% less burst

[buoyant salmon]

jev paid the mage to cancel aura ebon might

[restive peak]

So yes, it is a big loss across an entire key

[buoyant salmon]

gg.

[humble plover]

Jev has aids. Helping do all that damage

[pulsar quest]

Exactly

[restive peak]

Doom about PTR fury all you want

If you're dooming about fury right now, you're just beyond discussion

[hard widget]

Shhhh! I told you that in confidence

[buoyant salmon]

lol

[hard widget]

Holy

I butchered that word

[pulsar quest]

Feels not as fluid to play without frenzied tho

I tried it and didn’t really like it

[radiant kettle]

I'm not even dooming lol. I still beat out the classes who should do more lol

[weary sail]

If you are not dooming about fury right now, you are in major copium

[pulsar quest]

Definitely worth taking statistically but it feels worse to play

[tender sky]

Enjoy the time in the sun, because it will not last forever; we are not mage

[restive peak]

It's not targeted directly at you Kai, this is a general statement

And that Crit pic has been posted several times as some validation for why we're not good

[lean heart]

maybe need like 40% base haste for powerful enraged to feel good

[humble plover]

Statistck this...

[narrow narwhal]

I'm vibing

[young swan]

feels fucking sick at 30%

[restive peak]

I'm at 18% and I still think fury feels great

[young swan]

the issue is that having that much haste budget on your gear is not good for dps overall

[restive peak]

It's just a slight adjustment

[pulsar quest]

This

[humble plover]

Xan you feel good at 30%

Wait what

[radiant kettle]

Well, that's how the rest of the community sees fury lol. Time to get even less m+ invites than I already do being a war.

[restive peak]

I lied, I'm at 23% once I have oils and such on if chaos procs haste

But 18% otherwise

[pulsar quest]

Powerful enraged just feels so bleh, even though it’s a lot more on demand damage

[buoyant salmon]

the general wow community is stupid as fuck

[unreal shell]

Time to roll prot for invite buff

[restive peak]

The community is dumb as shit and all DPS sit in pug queues for ages

Even "meta"

[radiant kettle]

Literally starting to prep prot so I can get into keys. It's insane.

[summer quail]

that's what i have as well, gonna lose alot when i get the ansurek ring tho

[restive peak]

If you tried to balance this game around the communities awful takes and perception you'd be buffing/nerfing 10% swings daily

[buoyant salmon]

theres very few ppl that actually understand whats meta and why

[pulsar quest]

Listen the only way to get invited to keys is get ahead of the curve

If you have a higher io than most people early on

[restive peak]

On ALL DPS

[pulsar quest]

It usually doesn’t matter

[unreal shell]

Or just do your own

[weary sail]

Theres about 20 DPS for every 1 tank so good luck getting into keys lol

[unreal shell]

Can I get an invite to a +9 NW? No. Can I make a party for it with my key? Yes

[restive peak]

There are 2 options if you want to be in keys more consistently as any DPS

[radiant kettle]

Yeah but what if I have 0 friends and have to pug all my keys , how I get my io up before everyone else QQ when people see brown and go ehhh.....I'll take blue instead.

[restive peak]

Run your own key or make friends

[buoyant salmon]

feel like u guys havent lived through high key pugging in df season 2

[pulsar quest]

Every class struggles with this you guys know that right

[lean heart]

i think they should also rethink this talent it just feels odd to me personally

[humble plover]

Ewww friends

[gilded pawn]

no its just them and no one else

[buoyant salmon]

used to go LITERALLY ALL DAY with 1 invite to keys they are +3 io for me lol

[restive peak]

If you don't think either of those 2 should matter, you should go play single player games

[young swan]

its bad

[pulsar quest]

I literally played mage at a high lvl during its meta seasons and I could barely pug keys

[buoyant salmon]

yeah this is kinda cringe

[young swan]

bad talent desing

[pulsar quest]

It suck’s for all dps

[buoyant salmon]

talents that dont want you to swap targets ever is cringe

[weary sail]

Its an MMO at the end of the day, need to socialize and make friends to consistently get into keys

[summer quail]

they should just remove the target swapping penalty. feels like ass

[buoyant salmon]

yeah just make rampage stack up haste

as a buff on your character not restricted to target

[lean heart]

remove parry on bosses too while they're at it

[plush flower]

You know you can list your own key and get IO that way, right? You can also make friends that way.

[pulsar quest]

Make rampage do damage again

Dude parry on boss pisses me off so much

[buoyant salmon]

parry is so dogshit it is fucking incredible it hasnt been removed already

[lapis eagle]

make friens

[thick elbow]

Anyone else thing they are jumping the gun on nerfing fury so much

[buoyant salmon]

the fact that cds can get parried should get someone fired

[pulsar quest]

I wear some of these fucking bosses parry me from behind

[buoyant salmon]

unironically

[humble plover]

Ion doesn't play melee so he wont

[radiant kettle]

I have......but some keys aren't as desired as others. So I sit there forever waiting.

[nimble ermine]

maybe make execute actually do some dam on fury while at it

[tender sky]

DPS complain about making friends but if they really wanted to min/max their IO that’s what they’d do.
People would prefer to be an edgelord than do the thing that will make their peepee score go up 🤷🏼‍♂️

[pulsar quest]

My tank will turn queen around for half a second and I’ll get 3 rampages parried back to back

[tulip swallow]

it's just an annoying minigame to keep track of

[pulsar quest]

I actually hate parry so much

[tulip swallow]

I hate that talent man

[tender sky]

You interupt and cc well in a pug there’s like a 50% chance a healer will add you on btag if you’re friendly

[lean heart]

classic right here

[plush flower]

That's because nobody is really pushing score at the moment because all of the current level keys will be more trival with better gear 2 months down the road. People are queing specific keys for the gear they want now.

[radiant kettle]

Atm I have a 10 grim, and I'm putting off running it bc I don't want a shit group. But can't get into other keys zzz

[buoyant salmon]

every pull

[pulsar quest]

I “hope” for a wipe every time that happens

[buoyant salmon]

i was like 5k dps from getting beat by tank in p1

bc one of my cses gets parried

every pull

[pulsar quest]

“Whoops guys I missed my line sorry “

Wipe it up

[lean heart]

if my CS gets parried i wipe the raid thats just how it is

[radiant kettle]

My io isn't great. I'm only like 2100. And I'm only 612 ilvl, and 7/8 heroic raid....

But I figured that was good enough to get accepted into fuckin 7s for gear farming.

It's not. I applied to 85 7s last night and got invited to 0.

[unreal shell]

Drop it to a 7 and you'll get loot farmers, slam it quickly and run whatever 8/9/10 you get

[buoyant salmon]

we can be thankful its not as egregious as kingsbane parry lol

[pulsar quest]

Nope, I’m 4/8m 620 ilvl and 2300 io and I still get declined for 7s

It doesn’t matter really

[radiant kettle]

Fuck me

[dry hawk]

Try parrying while on back

[radiant kettle]

Good to know at least

[buoyant salmon]

+7s and +9s and +10s are the ideal farmed key levels

[radiant kettle]

I'll stop fuckin trying and just drop my key

[buoyant salmon]

7s and 9s for drops 10 for vault

ppl only do easy keys for vault tho

[tulip swallow]

take whatever key level you can actually do and subtract like 5 or 6 for a key you can reliably pug into

[lean heart]

when you apply for keys as dps theres like 50 million other dps in the queue

[tulip swallow]

shit is so broken

[pulsar quest]

Push your own key is the best way tbh

[buoyant salmon]

+7 grim batol auto filled

[pulsar quest]

Even if it takes a while

[tender sky]

MMO gunna mmo

[buoyant salmon]

for agility/strength trinket enjoyers

[radiant kettle]

I need like 6 items from grim QQ

[pulsar quest]

And then just spam add people that were decent

[tender sky]

Saving your key for the good group is also always a trap

[radiant kettle]

Sigh

Guess so

[tender sky]

Good group doesn’t exist

[pulsar quest]

I haven’t gotten a single drop from grim batol yet since m0 came out x)

[tender sky]

Just spam the keys you have, or continuously down them to a 7, 9, or 10

[radiant kettle]

Oof....

[tender sky]

Pushing io is a group activity and you will be forever cursed trying to pug it

[buoyant salmon]

lowkey would like a solo queue m+

[iron portal]

Is there anything to reflect on zekvir besides cast from add?

[buoyant salmon]

if they could get it to work well

[tulip swallow]

I would 100% run my own key if depleting wasn't in the game, but I know if I put NW 9 in the group finder someone is gonna fuck it up

[pulsar quest]

Same

[radiant kettle]

Well I'd like a 10 for vault, and no shot I get Invited to someone else's 10.....and I have a 10....so I just want to build a group who will at least complete and not drop as soon as shit goes sideways

Which is why I've delayed dropping my key

[tender sky]

This is why you post the key, afk 15 minutes, then invite people with inflated scores

[radiant kettle]

But I guess I can just get it back to a 10 easily and maybe get one easier 10 than grim.

[pulsar quest]

Do you have a guild at all

[honest sundial]

Main thing about nerfing fury is not that it's happening. It's that it's a wrong way. It makes our few abilities that can do damage past 5 targets get worse in >5 scenarios which has historically always been something fury struggled with when you would do low damage in high pulls compared to multiple other specs.
If they want to nerf burst sure, but give us compensation. Change whirlwind cleave from 4 to 7 targets as compensations, so we have smaller burst for Raid but can be same in terms overall competitivness in (mostly) keys. It's not like fury is the best aoe spec it's just the burstiest. We don't even own 5 target.
Buffing only ST as compensate for this nerf is not enough for damage in uncapped scenarios.

[tender sky]

Be part of the problem! Be picky with your key invites

[radiant kettle]

Yeah....but same prob every guild has. Limited tanks and healers, and they have their premades.

[nimble ermine]

or just apply as prot to all the gb keys and hate yourself for it

[sinful spoke]

im gonna uninstall this dogshit game

[tulip swallow]

Sylvanas prog moment

[radiant kettle]

True. I formed a melee party bc I felt bad for this rogue and ret paly, and the ret paly refused to brez healer in NW, bc "he didn't need heals"....and then key fell apart.

Me trying to not be the problem sucked ass lol

[grim grail]

because reasons, what talent do i drop to get SMF

[humble plover]

Skill issue

[nimble ermine]

what reasons feller

[pulsar quest]

Drop this channel

[nimble ermine]

what did you do

share with the class

[sinful spoke]

true

[lilac basin]

let him cook

[sinful spoke]

drop the game

[tender sky]

Myth track 1 hander in vault because you opened as fury loot spec pleaseeeeeee

[weary sail]

People still gonna cope about fury lol

[nimble ermine]

would be comical

i hope it's the reason

[pulsar quest]

Join big server like area 52 and find a guild with tons of people

Im there and the server is massive constantly seeing guilds recruiting

That do m+ and raid

[tribal flint]

I’d take a break from the game tbh

[tender sky]

If you like running keys, the single best thing you can do to run more keys is to learn to play prot

Then you make healer friends, then you force them to let you dps

[lilac basin]

main thing to me is that they shotgunned us after 2 weeks without being able to tell how the poor tier set or bad scaling would have polished the gaps

[weary sail]

If you are less than 614 ilvl, 2000 rating, realistically you are not gonna get into any high level keys

Unless you socialze and make friends

[radiant kettle]

On area 52.....in good sized guild.....raid lead for said guild >.< just rip me lol

[weary sail]

Which you should, its an MMO at the end of the day

[pulsar quest]

How do you not have groups then that’s crazy

[weary sail]

Game is more fun if you play w friends than rolling Pug roulette

[grim grail]

yeah i got 1 myth track 1h and another hero

[tender sky]

😭

[pulsar quest]

Tell them if you don’t help me with this vault then rip your raid this week

[radiant kettle]

Limited tanks and healers, who all have their set groups for m+

[grim grail]

opened as prot cause i was tanking

[radiant kettle]

Lolol

[tender sky]

😭

[lean heart]

cooked

[pulsar quest]

Gaslight them and blackmail them

[radiant kettle]

Then I get HR complaints xD

[pulsar quest]

Into doing keys for you

[radiant kettle]

Bahahaha

[nimble ermine]

i think it's a break from the game angle

[radiant kettle]

Let me use my rclootcouncil powers to benefit me. You right.

[grim grail]

nah im pretty chill man i raid as mountain thane too

[nimble ermine]

it's just funny is all

but yeah smf is not worth it

[tribal flint]

Run DPS as prot will be the move in keys

[radiant kettle]

Wild unicorn.

[nimble ermine]

even if you get 2 insane one handers smf is just doodoo

[pulsar quest]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-tuco-scream-mexican-angry-gif-5645373290661721744

[tender sky]

Pugging 2 randos in a 3 stack is also wildly different than fully pugging

[grim grail]

ill work it out

ta for the help lads

[turbid gate]

what talents are u guys running vs mythich ovinax?

[pulsar quest]

Same ones I run on every boss

[nimble ermine]

i think if you sim with smf as a talent it still tells you to pick two handers

or maybe im wrong idk

[pulsar quest]

It probably will as it would be a dps increase still

[nimble ermine]

it's ok because we already have a viable smf class in the game

called fdk

[pulsar quest]

And boy is viable an understatement

[clever path]

Anybody know if it's possible for blizz support to delete my 636 2hander and 619 crafted bracers, give me the mats back so I can fuckin craft a shield? :^)

[pulsar quest]

No

[willow knoll]

guys, what is the best craft to do this week? i already crafted the weapon

[clever path]

a shield

[willow knoll]

Is there any part that matches the weapon's embellishment?

[humble plover]

Those useless losers won't even give me my beledars bounty back lol

[pulsar quest]

Bracers w embellish probably

Writhing armor binding

[willow knoll]

ty

[slow quiver]

can warriors bladestorm to ignore the ansurex pull in during intermission?

[humble plover]

Yes

[slow quiver]

sweet

[pulsar quest]

Yes

[buoyant salmon]

prot does an obscene amount of damage

[slow quiver]

ty guys

[buoyant salmon]

so might be the move fr

[humble plover]

I leap 1st bladestorm 2nd and if 3rd leap again

[pulsar quest]

You usually leap or internvene the 1st, then bladestorm the 2nd then we skip the 3rd

[buoyant salmon]

yes comes up for the 2nd one

as eddie said

i usually leap out first and charge to cancel the pull/gain rage

[pulsar quest]

My 99 on rashanan heroic went to like a 60 xD

Then I redid it as arms this week and got a 98 full st

So fun and engaging leaving the adds to everybody else

I love ignoring mechanics!!!

[tender sky]

Charge breaks the inertia of the pull?

[buoyant salmon]

yes

[high echo]

amazing isnt it

[tender sky]

Yeah just need to ensure you’re far enough away huh

[pulsar quest]

It really baffles me that they didn’t just make it not count towards all stars

Instead of incentivizing people to not do fight mechanics

[buoyant salmon]

i agree its weird for sure

for prog just do the fury job

[iron portal]

love the name

[high echo]

went from the star of the show to a selfish parser on rash

[pulsar quest]

Nah I leave it to my dk now

I’m sure I’ll stay fury on brood still

Because we need the add damage

Hopefully that doesn’t change with the need

Nerf

[high echo]

next up adds on brood do not count

[pulsar quest]

Nerfing one of the biggest add damage specs on that fight, without any tuning is kinda crazy

Like they are gonna have to seriously tune that fight some

Nobody else is gonna run 4 frost dks like liquid

[high echo]

it just kinda sucks that bm and frost are scott free

[buoyant salmon]

the nerfs are a month away

[buoyant salmon]

bm??

bm is better in m+ when you spec full st

and no aoe

the only thing they are good at is pure st

[pulsar quest]

Yes but how many people are still gonna be on brood at that point

I’m expecting tuning to that soon tho

With race ending

[buoyant salmon]

saying i think there will be more changes coming

[high echo]

its the premium st spec on some fights

[pulsar quest]

If no tuning done + fury nerfed would suck

[buoyant salmon]

thats the only thing they are good at though

zero aoe damage

[high echo]

and are we that good at st anymore

based on logs

[pulsar quest]

Arms is

[high echo]

exactly

[buoyant salmon]

they also gain the most from pi

so logs are slightly inflated

[quiet geyser]

Arms is "ok" at ST. Its not overly good

[buoyant salmon]

wdym lol

arms is great on st

theres like 3 or 4 better specs

[queen solstice]

Sooooo I hear we are getting an aoe cap of 5

[quiet geyser]

Sorry ur right, what i meant was like its not in a broken spot

[dense elbow]

If they target cap from 8 to 5, this means they will increase OF damage by 51%

I feel better now

[pulsar quest]

Doesn’t need to be broken it’s great for prog

[quiet geyser]

Buff it, to nerf it, to buff it

[pulsar quest]

As long as it’s in an OKAY spot it will always be a great prog spec on mostly st bosses

[south kayak]

going full st on rashanan

[queen solstice]

Wait explain how that works

[sour abyss]

Wat

[south kayak]

WCL said it doesn't matter

[dense elbow]

target cap part?

[stuck sentinel]

Is it time to go arms?

[queen solstice]

The OF doing 51% more damage at 5 target cap

[dense elbow]

It be a joke, a wish, a hope

[queen solstice]

Ohhh copiom

[dense elbow]

If target cap goes down, damage should go up logic

[granite wigeon]

not the copiom

[lusty jungle]

pure cope

[sour abyss]

They will never roll back changes because they're incapable of admitting they screwed up lmao. Knee-jerk over reaction results in double downs from these clowns all the time

[queen solstice]

Think they will ever tune our 4 set up?

[wicked dew]

2nd boss in City of Threads feels like it does insane group-wide damage the whole fight and Im just relying on my healer to get me through it. Anything important Spell Reflects or something to help me negate some damage?

[frail trellis]

a ret pala 20 ilvl under me matching my damage like crazy is sad af xD i know im bad but damn

[south kayak]

20??

nah man that's you

[sour abyss]

This latest nerf IS the double down. Now we get to be dog water for the rest of the season

[granite wigeon]

im 10 ilvl over our cat druid and he destroys me on the meters

[pulsar quest]

Cat Druid is insane in st

[queen solstice]

I’m perma stuck on warrior for prog, so I have to find a solid m plus class

[pulsar quest]

To be fair

[granite wigeon]

even in aoe

its like convoke go cray

[frail trellis]

ik ik, but 591 ilvl doing 1m average overall and 2-3m burst every single pack on his 30 sec cdi s crazy

[pulsar quest]

You not doin something right then

[queen solstice]

Might just go aug play on easy mode for the season

[pulsar quest]

I blow our cat out of the water on aoe

[granite wigeon]

its prob me.

i mean, its way closer in aoe

[pulsar quest]

On pull he does insane damage and great boss damage

[tribal flint]

I’m thinking about creating a petition

[granite wigeon]

and i burst higher ofc. but i mean. hes also like just better at the game

[pulsar quest]

But when adds come out I’m usually 1 or 2 if the dk popped off

[dense elbow]

Ppl bursting hundreds of millions, yet here I am with my 4 mill peak

[tribal flint]

I just think it’s fucking lame to put this much work into my class to see my damage stay the same or go lower every week, killing the expansion for me

[pulsar quest]

I think my highest burst was 10m dps

I’ve hit that high one time so far

[spiral shell]

Welcome to the club brother

[stuck sentinel]

Well, at least we still have prot spec

Right guys?

[queen solstice]

Hahaha

[dense elbow]

True, at least prot bursts in the 20-30million mark

[granite wigeon]

im honestl debating on going arms

[queen solstice]

Arms you’ll have so much worse of a time

[spiral shell]

Class changes hot fix: protection warrior health reduced by 1000%
Thunder clap damage reduced by 500000%

Ravager damage reduced by 500%

[stuck sentinel]

It’s better ST and comparable aoe now

[granite wigeon]

yeah but then i get no shade from the raid group

[pulsar quest]

Ive been running arms on sikran and rashanan this week and its not bad

Just really unfun

[queen solstice]

Well if your talking raiding yeah sure

But m plus arms is way worse than fury

[dense elbow]

I cant wait for Berserker Rage to get a 150% damage buff to compensate for our nerfs

[queen solstice]

We ain’t getting no buffs

[dense elbow]

That is 150% mod on current, for those who want to do the math

[stuck sentinel]

Make sure you rend all 8 targets and keep it up 🙂

[granite wigeon]

i havent tried hitting a dummy yet in arms this xpac. but i was always an arms andy over the years

[queen solstice]

Blizz declared war on fury

[queen solstice]

I mean fair

[granite wigeon]

and how has frost dk not been touched

[pulsar quest]

It is very very different than DF arms

[queen solstice]

People are bad at playing it

[pulsar quest]

Just be aware

[sand crest]

how has enh not been touched as well

[queen solstice]

Requires 4 at

[granite wigeon]

aw.. that kinda makes me sad

[queen solstice]

Set

Prolly the logic behind enhance

[trail sky]

Yo, what is the best raidbot option for simulate mm+ war fury ?

[pulsar quest]

Single target patchwerk

[dense elbow]

As we only are there for ST, sim ST

[spiral shell]

It will be they are gonna wait for people to get more geared before they doom it

[trail sky]

Ty and for duration ?

[wary fjord]

Frost deserves some love

[pulsar quest]

5 mins

[trail sky]

ty

[wary fjord]

Was trash forever in m+

[queen solstice]

I mean frost dk hasn’t been meta for years

Same with enhance

[wary fjord]

Blizz just hates warrior

[granite wigeon]

true

[spiral shell]

I prefer unholy

[stuck sentinel]

My group had be playing prot warrior for keys bc we had no other tanks… now this cements it

[wary fjord]

I think let frost be good for the season

[queen solstice]

They prolly want to make those class/specs playable for at least a little while

[wary fjord]

Then kill them

[stuck sentinel]

I just hate hitting 80+ buttons per minute

[granite wigeon]

same

[queen solstice]

Play pally if that’s the case

[stuck sentinel]

Which I did with dirt almost

[queen solstice]

Or a caster

[stuck sentinel]

Lowest APM is Invoker

At like 40

[wary fjord]

You're playing the wrong class then lol

[stuck sentinel]

Then afflock

[queen solstice]

And dev is low key doing big damage

[stuck sentinel]

Arms is like 60

Wym

[wary fjord]

Arms doesn't count

[restive pewter]

any gigachads in here can craft me the 636 2h r5? NA

my trade chat is empty :((

[wary fjord]

[trail sky]

how much boss u think ?

[pulsar quest]

1

[glad plover]

problem with balancing warriors is the fact tha Arms and Fury have no utility to bring to M+, damage is only thing we can bring to 5 man group, if any other spec is having even worse damage, its often worth bringing simply because of utility.

[stuck sentinel]

Rallying cry, shockwave, storm bolt

[warm crag]

arms plays iftk and fury usually plays powerful enrage wdym

both apms are comparable

[earnest grail]

Prot Warrior have this too tho

[warm crag]

(in the parts that matter)

[earnest grail]

no need for DPS Warrior if you can invite better dps

[queen solstice]

And port is doing well in the tanking stage

[glad plover]

Tell me one thing warriors brings that other classes do not have....

[warm crag]

ya ok and

[earnest grail]

no dps

😄

[humble plover]

I love using my utility in keys then saying "warriors bring no utility"

[queen solstice]

Rally hahaha

[stuck sentinel]

Rallying cry, decent self healing

[young swan]

ur hitting more than that

[dry hawk]

[young swan]

CPM != APM

[stuck sentinel]

Idk what that means

[queen solstice]

Well warrior doesn’t bring the “utility” that matters, basically not lust, brez, and mass stealth

[young swan]

casts per minute are not the same as actions per minute

[dense elbow]

You saying AoE stop doesnnt matter?

[earnest grail]

CPM = Casts per Minute
APM = Actions per Minute

[young swan]

you press buttons way more often than you ever cast spells

[humble plover]

Don't die 4head

[stuck sentinel]

I think it’s calculated in there

[young swan]

so the CPM chart is completely irrelevant

[queen solstice]

Not anymore, they all just start recasting, so it prolongs the casts

[glad plover]

Self healing is not utility, Rally is close to useless in most M+ situations.

[stuck sentinel]

Since ele shaman still has high apm

[queen solstice]

Right, still people value that over. Rally and or a stop

[covert blaze]

nerd

[young swan]

ty

[covert blaze]

[stuck sentinel]

Most of the “utility” can be bought from auction house tbh

With minimal loss in quality

[young swan]

shockwave is sick utility

[gilded pawn]

lust is definitely a big loss in quality

[stuck sentinel]

Drums

[spiral shell]

So the least apm the easier?

[young swan]

no

[weary sail]

It still doesnt make sense to me that warriors dont have bloodlust thematically

[stuck sentinel]

Yes

[young swan]

literally no

rogue is a good example

[weary sail]

Its literally in the name, Bloodlust - Warriors

[spiral shell]

Was gonna say

[dense elbow]

Easier in what sense?

[spiral shell]

Yeah rogue is not easy 💀

[gilded pawn]

no way you just said drums is as good as lust

[stuck sentinel]

It’s literally 5% less

[young swan]

feral another good example

[dense elbow]

drums is as good as lust, both are objects; neither are evil

check mate

[young swan]

its half as good as lust

arent drums 15% haste? and I insane?

[gilded pawn]

yeah its 15

[covert blaze]

i love that you say litearlly and say the wrong number after

[gilded pawn]

bro got cheating drums

[stuck sentinel]

Figuratively

[glad plover]

explain that to modern wow player mentality

[covert blaze]

he's just wrong tho

[spiral gyro]

In a AOE Scenario where Rampage wears of in the very moment my fourth ww stack is used, what do I prefer to use first.. Whirlwind or Rampage?

[stuck sentinel]

Jumper cables for rez, drums for lust, invis pots for mass invis

[spiral gyro]

Probably first WW then Ramp, right?

[warm crag]

ye you wanna cleave stuff

[wary fjord]

Whirlwind then ramp

[spiral gyro]

yeah thought so, thanks!

[earnest grail]

jumper cable can fail
drums are worse then Real BL
Inivs pots = 5 Min CD of all pots, just bring rogue if u want to skip

wdym

[gilded pawn]

you dont like losing a pot for bosses?

[dense elbow]

invi pot isnt shared with combat pot anymore?

wasnt that removed for tww?

[young swan]

just bring rogue if u want to skip
or priest or warlock

[earnest grail]

they removed it?

[glad plover]

If you can bring warrior, with cables, or DK with actual combat res, what are you going to bring?

[earnest grail]

also, DK CR is instant, the Cable isnt

[dense elbow]

I am like 80% certain that I read that in the beta days

[stuck sentinel]

My stellar personality

[earnest grail]

its like Warlock cr but worse

[stuck sentinel]

And can-do attitude

[spare steppe]

Link?

[stuck sentinel]

I’ve never had jumper cables fail though

Can they really

[rare fjord]

is there a meta about clicking off ascendance buff

if you dont like the stat?

[spare steppe]

It’s a denuff isn’t it

[earnest grail]

guess so, if they dont change it and just put copy paste Version from older Exp

[stuck sentinel]

Simulationcraft

[rare fjord]

no

[stuck sentinel]

Additional info

[dense elbow]

Why would you click it off, to restart the buffing process - starting at 1?

[covert blaze]

no

it was a bug i think

[dense elbow]

huh

sadge

It made sense to me

[earnest grail]

yea, its literally in the Tooltip of the Cable

[ember apex]

what'd i say 1 year ago

look at that

they call me crazy in here

[earnest grail]

but i dont have the tooltip in english, only in german. Lemme search for the english version

[covert blaze]

yoy say a lot of things carlo

[ember apex]

yeah and now im right

[warm crag]

you said slayer was gonna be like poe slayer

[ember apex]

it is

[warm crag]

where is my leech you fucker

[ember apex]

it has attack speed and leech

[ember apex]

oh u must be confused, stand by

[stuck sentinel]

Hmmmm….

[covert blaze]

hm

maybe he was cooking

[warm crag]

where is my attack speed you fool

[earnest grail]

So, on that. The Cable can fail

[ember apex]

there it is thank u

[warm crag]

5 hps

[stuck sentinel]

It seems very small though

[earnest grail]

i hope so

[stuck sentinel]

Go buy 100 of them for me and test it

[stray compass]

Is mad queen bis for us in raid?

[spare steppe]

Cheers

[earnest grail]

only good thing is, all can use it. Even non Engineers

[warm crag]

kinda

you want a decent spread of trinkets based on the fight but mandate is very good ye

[covert blaze]

mad queen scales lilke crazy with low hp

[warm crag]

scales?

[ember apex]

am i the only warrior who farmed out season 2 priest wings who is gonna look fly as fuck when this change goes through?

[warm crag]

oly moly

[covert blaze]

have you read the trinket my guy

[warm crag]

yes i know what the trinket does but you said the s word

[stuck sentinel]

Tempted to get this…

[covert blaze]

s for spoingo

[main cape]

Are we still panicking today?

[dapper goblet]

deserved

[warm crag]

yes fury is dead uninstall

for real this time

[stuck sentinel]

It’s so over

[summer quail]

doesn't that just mean we can unlock priest set on warrior but still not use it on warrior?

[devout hollow]

they are decent for m+

[stray compass]

Is there any bosses i shouldnt use mad queen?

[wary fjord]

Fury will rise again when our season 2 tier set is a 25% increase

[warm crag]

mythic ovinax, maybe some aoe bosses? idk really i just use what i have

[wary fjord]

[covert blaze]

the changes are only for the trading post sets tho right

[weary sail]

Fury will be middle of the pack again

[warm crag]

revvez plays mandate no treach on ansurek wtf

[wary fjord]

Middle of the pack is better than we are used to at the beginning of an xpac I feel

Lol

[spare steppe]

I hope we make it up there

[weary sail]

[spare steppe]

That ST damage is looking dire and not every class has full tier yet

[ember apex]

no that restriction is lifted u can collect transmog on anything

[wary fjord]

Most comments is SMF

Lol

[ember apex]

isnt it crazy how right i am, it's like i honestly surprise myself

so it must be crazy for u guys

seeing all this

[covert blaze]

ok relax

[drowsy sonnet]

Quick question for execute in ST its just send at 3x marked for death or refersh ashen jugg, in AoE wowhead says its below rampage? I dont send even if at 3 stacks of marked for death to lower BS CD?

[wary fjord]

[ember apex]

predicted in nov 2023 btw

[wary fjord]

I'm used to blizzard shitting in our mouths

[ember apex]

same

[warm crag]

you predicted dn aswell that was very impressive

[ember apex]

dn?

[acoustic anchor]

oh no

[weary sail]

Shoulda roll DK instead of Warrior

[wary fjord]

Deez nuts

[wary fjord]

Gottem

[warm crag]

you cant dn someone elses setup

[acoustic anchor]

whats dn?

[ember apex]

dn?

[warm crag]

suspension + permanent record

[wary fjord]

Just did, be faster next time

[covert blaze]

spongie was charging up

[acoustic anchor]

fr everytime I see this guy do it he has like 2 minutes brain delay

[covert blaze]

unfort

[ember apex]

that's crazy my guild has not given me any recognition over this

[warm crag]

i think its funnier to dn people without doing the payoff

[wary fjord]

Lol

[ember apex]

i already posted in discord and they're just like oblivious

maybe i need to ping that guy who is on the oil rig

[acoustic anchor]

you should ping dn

[ember apex]

"yo wake up u gotta see this"

dn?

[fallen ginkgo]

Anyone have a weakaura or something for tirna?

[ember apex]

there's a maze solver but its inconsistent

when it works it's accurate but it doesnt always show when it should

[covert blaze]

#ui-addons-manager message

[summer quail]

be my guest, go into a raid try and get the tmog for other class sets as warrior

[ember apex]

its not live

its pending

just announced on wowhead

[summer quail]

you are misunderstanding what i mean

[ember apex]

i spent so many hours doing priest stuff for those wings

now im gonna be the only warrior w/ them

until ppl can solo aberrus

[acoustic anchor]

can people solo dn?

[ember apex]

dn?

[acoustic anchor]

@warm crag pls finish me off here

[ember apex]

whoa

[warm crag]

whats dn?

[acoustic anchor]

no no, you do the next part

dn?

[coarse nest]

Wo wo wo

[warm crag]

you mean dreadnaught?

[ember apex]

spongie

[coarse nest]

Nobody finishing off anybody

[covert blaze]

the change is only for the trading post right

[acoustic anchor]

Yes thank you

[coarse nest]

[warm crag]

i got u

[covert blaze]

i think you are misunderstanding

[ember apex]

yo spongie

i have a knock knock joke are u ready

[wicked dew]

Can we talk about why these changes aren't coming for 2 months btw. It's weird as shit that they are posting class changes this far in advance right?

[oblique trail]

blowing you up

https://tenor.com/view/boomshakalaka-gif-25687559

[warm crag]

rude?

[wary fjord]

Damn

[warm crag]

go on

[wary fjord]

That little guy didn't deserve that

[ember apex]

ok u start it tho

[spare steppe]

There’s multiple classes that have upcoming changes. We don’t know if there’s more warrior changes that aren’t documented yet

[warm crag]

nah i think you should

[ember apex]

u gotta start it

[spare steppe]

#falseoptimism

[ember apex]

someone start the knockknock joke

[coarse nest]

Knock knock

[ember apex]

whose there?

[spare steppe]

Your momma

[coarse nest]

DN

[ember apex]

dn who

[heavy flax]

king tut

[coarse nest]

DN on your forehead

[dire badge]

they should let you block people multiple times on discord

[final timber]

Hey guys,

[coarse nest]

[acoustic anchor]

👋

[final timber]

I wanted to know how I can improve myself and my character a little

[coarse nest]

Play more

[acoustic anchor]

First off start with some slutmog

Preferably a male tauren, which kind doesnt matter

[final timber]

I think I'm at a point where its a skill issue but here is my logs and raidbot profile

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/illidan/whymedawg

[coarse nest]

Whymedawg

Real

[wicked dew]

Hopefully more nerfs

[coarse nest]

Every time someone else loots the trinkets I’m farming

[iron leaf]

so what we rerolling to bois

[wary fjord]

Quiet

[acoustic anchor]

Paladin, Dk and mages will get a buff as they are not strong enough yet

[wary fjord]

Rerolling to frost dk

[haughty basin]

DK

dks are the new chad spec

[wary fjord]

New Chad spec?

[final timber]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iiNsd9Q65mttStFqSukTyi

[orchid vault]

What are the nerfs? Where can I find them? cant see on wowhead

[wary fjord]

Always have been chads imo

[final timber]

This is single target spec

Should I prio CB or BB after Ramp?

[coarse nest]

CB first

[iron leaf]

they are on the 10.0.5 PTR

[haughty basin]

the reliance on casting pussy ass spells and raising dead minions to do the work for u and casting death coils and shit made them less chad than us

[iron leaf]

11.0.5*

[haughty basin]

but now

[orchid vault]

So not communicataed yet?

[wary fjord]

But they also told arthas to eat a dick

[coarse nest]

It’s communicated in the ptr yes

[haughty basin]

fury warriors when there's a 6th mob

[wary fjord]

Lol

Lmao

[iron leaf]

yeah it was datamined from the latest PTR

[coarse nest]

Lol lmao Kek

[orchid vault]

ah i found it now

[iron leaf]

so it could change, but knowing blizzard I just expect them to nerf us even more

[edgy ledge]

what are you simming, is this a sim post nerfs??

[coarse nest]

I fully expect massive ST increase after the 5 target soft cap

[edgy ledge]

im the same ilvl, 3P tier, im at 1.1m

[coarse nest]

Smh

[cerulean gyro]

Nerfs are
OF Reduced damage beyond 5 targets (was 8)
DR Reduced damage beyond 5 targets (was 8)

[coarse nest]

(It won’t happen)

[haughty basin]

i think blizzard entirely designs around fury and arms as a conjoined spec

like theyll never make fury ST good cuz theyll just assume you switch to arms

[coarse nest]

We will still hit all targets with them just won’t do fuck all to the targets beyond 5

[haughty basin]

thats my conspiracy

[olive wraith]

We had a tier where fury st was relatively good

[coarse nest]

Legion fury

Never forget

99 jugs stacks

[long coral]

imagine getting punished for using ur spec as intended. thanks blizz.

[sinful spoke]

i love people protesting on the wcl discord

[lost saffron]

I mean

xD

What did they expect

[quiet geyser]

The whole point of talent trees is to have the choice to play the way you want. Warrriors, especially fury, just have the issue we dont have a lot of choice. Our talents are mostly the same

[dense sedge]

It's sad they come for our bonk

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/max-holloway-justin-gaethje-ufc-300-gif-9148006152567112952

Blizz devs to fury war

[coarse nest]

It’s kinda L for them to remove the adds because it’s literally part of the fight

You have to kill them to keep tank alive

[wary fjord]

Yeah

It's an L

[coarse nest]

Filtering out tindral like roots is one thing

[coarse nest]

But not literal adds