fury

[fiery harbor]

is the change even in yet

[chrome plover]

no

[eternal sundial]

[merry night]

wont roll till mid october

[fiery harbor]

yeah that's what i thought

[warm bramble]

i like that warriors are getting nerfed again and retri & dks are getting away with it

[merry night]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-jessie-pinkman-aaron-paul-get-away-with-it-frustration-gif-4405537

[vestal root]

There is still time for them to nerf

Ptr gets changed each week

Hopium

[merry night]

we reroll mage

[flat river]

ew

[merry night]

mage shaman dk

[warm bramble]

i actually don't know what to do if this happens LULE

[merry night]

we force their hand to nerf

its the only way

[coarse nest]

Over 10 years experience playing warrior it’s not like I’m going to just “re roll”

[warm crag]

I hope they nerf meat cleaver

[coarse nest]

Blizz just stop

[vestal root]

I hope they rework warrior

[merry night]

they wont

[vestal root]

Ranged Rampage

[merry night]

thats a long shot

[bitter palm]

crushing blow is so low

[astral path]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-rat-gif-27702042

[forest owl]

how many reworks has ret pally had in the time fury had 1?

[astral path]

yeah im never rerolling

blizzard can lick my nuts

[limber hornet]

so we just re roll at this point after 8 years experience in warrior? whats next best class to go?

[merry night]

https://tenor.com/view/under-cover-like-a-spy-you-know-fbi-work-gif-14340190

[astral path]

im never swapping off fury

[coarse nest]

Real

[merry night]

Shaman, DK, Mage

[dry hawk]

Only been smashing that on bosses.. is that wrong

[vestal root]

Its blizzard so everyone is in danger except mage

[sinful spoke]

No crafted weapon

[vestal root]

Mage is the golden child

[sinful spoke]

U can still reroll

Is not too late

[limber hornet]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/63f02c4ece7a1e125360036f/4x.gif

[coarse nest]

Whenever poor mages and warlocks not at the top of the leaderboard

[vestal root]

DHs and DKs might slap my ass heavy but they got shit like breath of sind and Inertia so i win

[coarse nest]

Blizzard in Shambles

[dry hawk]

Bye bye 110gbs

[merry night]

its their time to shine o glorious king, they buffed shaman as a top tier i will now play them and cherish them

[sinful spoke]

Lets not kid ourselves here

Mages and other casters complain alot more than us

Thats why

If we complained half as much as they did they wouldnt treat us like this

But instead we complain in here instead of the forums and reddit

[vestal root]

Warriors cant type

[chrome plover]

cant read

[coarse nest]

I can’t even read

[merry night]

ill create a thread rn called fuck mike wayne and fuck ronald

[coarse nest]

I communicate here telepathically

[merry night]

everyone go comment on it how bad they are

[vestal root]

I love pala i used to be a ret main

But

Pala is kinda snooze

No adrenaline pumpin

I keep trying DH for 3 xpacs and every time i wanna learn openers properly i collapse and die irl

Rogue is space science with its openers and 20000 cooldowns

So warrior it is

[cedar tusk]

Can always roll hunter :)

[vestal root]

Hunters and monks classes i would never make

[flat river]

frost dk is fun ngl but fury is more fun

[vestal root]

Frost is giga fun IF you dont play breath

Breath sucks out all the fun out of the spec

[chrome plover]

enhance is really fun

[fickle cedar]

[orchid dagger]

Unless FDK just shits out RP and doesn't care lmao

[cedar tusk]

Also we're on the fury channel, why talk about other classes xD

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[bitter palm]

on coldown

always

[vestal root]

You think this channel is about warrior?

[bitter palm]

ramp -> cb

[untold yacht]

guys what is default similar class other than warrior that I can switch too?

asking for a friend

or alt

[radiant plank]

fdk

[untold yacht]

something for simple minded

[vestal root]

Outlaw rogue

[orchid dagger]

Because Fury dead

[untold yacht]

that dk sounds good

[burnt kelp]

retoilet

[noble yew]

i just done some sims w wep enchants. it tells me to use council's guile. any1 else has same sims or similar

[burnt kelp]

ret paladin is a bit like playing arms but you are under perma bloodlust

[cedar tusk]

Why is that?

[burnt kelp]

and have your burst on every pack

and have 30 yards on all your abilities

[radiant sentinel]

ret is the best designed melee currently, warrior needs a rework

[burnt kelp]

I wouldn't go that far

[arctic sinew]

They need to make rampage actually do damage

[fervent yoke]

How down bad are we like do I need to reroll lmao?

[arctic sinew]

The generators shouldnt be the main dmg
Also we shouldnt feel like potatoes outside of cds imo

[runic cypress]

Yes

[wheat estuary]

I’m getting my dh and ret alts going lol

[runic cypress]

Critcake literally rolling Paladin

its over

[untold yacht]

the 5 target cap isnt live yet guys right?

[lean wasp]

Is he?

[loud gyro]

Not till reset

[lean wasp]

Isnt that in .5 patch?

[fervent yoke]

Wait fml I hate the pinks

[thorny shoal]

correct

[cedar tusk]

Source on him saying that he will rerolled. I call bs.

[burnt kelp]

fellers I gotta say, it feels like every arms nerf since the expansion is cause of fury

at least nobody uses warbreaker

[wheat estuary]

All will be forgiven if mountain thane becomes viable

[lean wasp]

Am gonna make a refund ticket asking for my crests, valor stones and sparks so i can reroll prot and go play frost dk for dps

[burnt kelp]

frost is fun

[lean wasp]

Its slow af tho

[burnt kelp]

it's not much slower than fury with powerful enrage

its a little bit slow, but nothing bad

[lean wasp]

Like bdk is fine since you're the tank and nobody is gonna move faster than you and you dont care about swirlies and frontals but being a slow dps

[runic cypress]

got invited to a 7 boralus

[burnt kelp]

oh you mean movement

yeah

[runic cypress]

Were so back boys

[burnt kelp]

you are screwd

[runic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/we're-back-baby-rick-sanchez-morty-smith-rick-and-morty-we've-returned-my-friends-gif-305458341981810714

[earnest grail]

man, i have bad feelings to queue up a +7 Key cuz of my damage is lower then every ret shaman out there

[lean wasp]

You know that there are people out there still complaining about fury damage being too high

[runic cypress]

It's not gonna get any better without any good gear

[warm bramble]

i never played tank and i'm considering to swap Prot at this point

[ornate gust]

today i got stuck in the queue.. can't get be invited to +9 keys 🤦‍♂️

[runic cypress]

tfw 2 raid ids
tfw 0 loot

[earnest grail]

i know, i have 611, the Ara Kara Trinket on 623 and the Mastery Trinket on 619, also both 619 weapons

[runic cypress]

smh i wish i had that

[earnest grail]

i burst one big pull with 5 mio dps, then 2 Minutes low 1.5mio - 2mio

[runic cypress]

im only 608

[earnest grail]

Shaman constant 2,5mio aoe

[fervent yoke]

What’s top melee atm dk?

[earnest grail]

even with that, i dont deal outcoming damage to be "insane" Pick for a Grp

[hard widget]

Probably either Assa or FDK, Assa is a bit 50-50 on tank tho. Ret seems to do pretty well as well

[burnt kelp]

I don't know for you fellers, but I had to listen to 1 month of ret paladins crying about how their damage is lower than tanks

[hard widget]

Enha is also really good

[earnest grail]

guess i will look out for Tank gear and play Tank again. The only Specc thats viable atm

[fervent yoke]

Damn basically any melee but warriors

[hard widget]

Warrior is also pretty good

[burnt kelp]

I think those bastards lied to me

[hard widget]

Reality is, most of the times people dont get close to getting the most out of their spec by a longshot anyways. So just be good at pressing ur buttons and u'll outdmg them

I can say this applies for about 99% of m+ players

[fervent yoke]

I mean I am parsing 1st in dps on most raid bosses.. kinda embarrassing for our fdk and arcane mage they should be blasting me

[hard widget]

Yeha just because classes are supposed to do something, doesnt mean that most people CAN do it

[fervent yoke]

But other fights they are beating my purple parses with green ones

Which feels bad

[spare steppe]

Unfortunately the perception carries down for keys

[fervent yoke]

Yeah my biggest issue is just actually getting a invite to m plus groups

[hard widget]

I got a great example. I was boosting keys with Hearthjacks, this guy is build diff on Arcane mage.
He outdpsed me every key.
I went into pugs, not a single mage outdpsed me

[cerulean gyro]

Literally buffed last week

as fury was nerf'd

[burnt kelp]

is that really a buff

[radiant plank]

no

[cerulean gyro]

More of a buff then a nerf?

[spare steppe]

Same. I’m likely going to just prot keys

[hard widget]

Anyways, just tryto improve on ur rotation to get 100% out of ur class. Once ur at that point or really close. And still get outdpsed then it makes sense to complain

[fervent yoke]

Exactly!

[south kayak]

that's way more of a nerf than a buff lol

[onyx isle]

Would it not make more sense to learn that on a better class?

[hard widget]

Can u say that ur getting the most out of this spec?

[onyx isle]

No, but I think almost no one in the world can on any spec.

[fresh ivy]

do u blast crushing blow before rampage if ur on a full rage bar?

[hard widget]

Yeah so why reroll to another class that does only a few % more if ur not even at the best u can be on the spec ur playing

[burnt kelp]

depends on your style of play, if you have a friend group nerfs don't matter as much

GL finding m+ groups as woyer after the nerfs tho

[onyx isle]

That's a great argument for everyone in the world but the top few people to never change classes.

[runic cypress]

group gave up looking for people in my 7 key

Its over

[burnt kelp]

finding groups even as S++ dps is already aids

[cerulean gyro]

I don't play Shaman but a 4% overall buff, with a tier set buff by 4% but a nerf to their feral spirit cooldown?

[hard widget]

Exactly

Unless u want to do top world keys it doesnt matter at all

[burnt kelp]

its a huge nerf to feral spirit CDR

[hard widget]

This season you'll be able to do keys within 1 key level MAYBE 2 of what top classes do even on warrior

[cerulean gyro]

Anyways my point is why they butchering fury warriors like this when we're literally behind Aug in ST damage

[burnt kelp]

so it's probably more a nerf than a buff

[chrome plover]

it is

[cerulean gyro]

I see

[hard widget]

This isnt a good argument tho. Yes our ST aint great, but we play AOE build on most bosses and shift cd's to do AOE. If we do full ST on fights we'll be higher up

[fervent yoke]

I mean just look at Riku on liquid before and after nerfs they are playing with the best players so if everyone was the same skill level that’s where fury should sit on the meters

[chrome plover]

the upcoming nerf wont change single target

[fast mural]

imagine if we start playing spear on aoe after this

that would be sick

[hard widget]

Im not pretending to be happy about the changes, but its not "over" for 99% of players that do keys at all

[cerulean gyro]

For sure they won't

[hard widget]

Because most people never reach a level where it matters

[compact knot]

its over and im only playing prot warrior now

[fast mural]

and there is always arms

[hard widget]

#protection 🚪

[oblique trail]

Yes, it's CB > BB > Ramp in ST
BB > CB > Ramp in AoE
Only time you'd Ramp above it is if you're unenraged

[burnt kelp]

there is never arms

[compact knot]

prot warrior has a better execute than fury warrior so i will be playing prot warrior on rashanan

[burnt kelp]

there will not be arms until they rework the trash can

[compact knot]

(i will not play arms)

[fast mural]

prot execute is also better than arms execute

arms just has multipliers

[burnt kelp]

multipliers aren't arms' problem

[compact knot]

its actually kinda insane how much damage prot does in execute lol

in spear/avatar if i get 3 execute crits its like 10 million damage from 3 buttons

[cerulean gyro]

BB and CB is prio over Rampage even though we waste rage?

[night void]

Not true. If we go pure ST as other classes do we are pretty bottom

[fast mural]

not true

[compact knot]

we arent bottom bottom if we go pure ST

we are like bottom 8 though

[oblique trail]

Yes

[fast mural]

just look at sikran logs

or princess

[compact knot]

sikran mythic we are very bottom

so

by a lot

[restive peak]

No that was a huge nerf

[fast mural]

ok nvm

[compact knot]

that boss is not fun for fury though

[hard widget]

What i'm saying is that you cant just look at all logs and be like oh we're bottom because most fights we play aoe

[compact knot]

its the outlier

[restive peak]

I mean he's right, our ST in pure ST is mid tier

[night void]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#boss=2898&dataset=90

[fervent yoke]

How hard is prot to learn I’m just a fury zug zug warr atm

[compact knot]

easy

[fast mural]

sims made me belive it wasnt that bad

[restive peak]

A lot of the boss damage being so awful is because we're the AOErs, and ret for example stays ST on AOE fights

BUT the upcoming nerf will kill us

[hard widget]

And Sikran Mythic is not a very good fight for melee uptime

[restive peak]

Fury currently is giga strong

Dooming about new changes? Fair. Dooming current live? Just kidding yourself.

[compact knot]

easy, high apm and fun*\

[cerulean gyro]

Damn good to know
I thought it was using Rampage before rage cap in any instance

[fast mural]

its giga stron as long as tehre are adds which every boss has

[indigo yew]

is there a way to simm reliably ovinaxx mythic fighting style ?

[cerulean gyro]

Read the wowhead guide and got that impression

[oblique trail]

Nah, Reckless Abandon is weird in the sense that Crushing and Bloodbath are simply just so strong that it's worth capping rage for

[cerulean gyro]

Damn ait, thanks

[compact knot]

no not really

personally though id go with whatever sims highest on single target and switch trinkets around for aoe (doesnt switch much from st)

[restive peak]

for mythic ovi, seems to be the run AM/uproar play

[compact knot]

^

uproar for sure

[restive peak]

I personally am gonna run RA and let the other warr pad his brains out cuz boss dam still matters

[compact knot]

AM seems troll a little bit

[restive peak]

But if you're the AOEr for your team, AM/uproar

Every team that has killed mythic brood thusfar ran AM/uproar

Liquid had 1 RA warr 2 AM warrs, but that's with 3 warrs

[heavy dock]

how much better is powerful enrage than fernzied enrage in m+

[vale sphinx]

I might be dumb in the head, but what does the acronym AM and RA stand for?

[heavy dock]

i saw critcake's vid on necrotic 11 and he played frenzied enrage there

[heavy dock]

these 2 talents

[fervent yoke]

Bout to just reroll Aug and get key invites at 580

[vale sphinx]

thank!

[narrow narwhal]

I don't know his comps, but frenzied gives more boss damage.

[orchid dagger]

They only have 1 war now lmao

[storm rune]

the meta isn't even at the point where people even want aug, that's a folly

[burnt kelp]

what

everyone wants an aug

its aug

[storm rune]

and?

[burnt kelp]

and people will pick them

[storm rune]

if the meta wants them, yes

it will

[restive peak]

For queen yes

He asked about brood

[burnt kelp]

and the meta wants them

[untold yacht]

what to roll

mage?

[burnt kelp]

well it's just an idea

but personally

if you want to reroll I'd suggest everyone to roll a night elf mage

so we get the nelf racial and mage nerfed

2 birds with 1 stone you get me

[dusty bluff]

Hey guys, I’m a new to fury, i’m used to skills between eight or 10 buttons but with fury, I feel like I need more. Do you guys just use keyboards? Any ideas on the razor keypad?

[clever path]

nobody tell him bros

[burnt kelp]

if you hate nelves too much, you can also pick dwarf

stoneform getting nerfed would be good too

[orchid dagger]

Well we're all rerolling now that Fury is being gutted

[dusty bluff]

No way

Why

[burnt kelp]

This is a mage channel, sir

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-pondering-my-orb-my-orb-orb-pondering-my-pondering-my-orb-orb-gif-24060364

[orchid dagger]

AOE nerf

[dusty bluff]

NOOOOOOOOO

[orchid dagger]

Pondering yet more Mage buffs

[burnt kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285000719023472733/image0.gif

[dusty bluff]

what about retribution paladin?

[burnt kelp]

good pick

[orchid dagger]

Yeah ret is still good

[dusty bluff]

Arms?

[delicate glade]

You will be happier ther

[burnt kelp]

no don't play arms

[orchid dagger]

Arms are just coping

[dusty bluff]

Dam now I have to re level another warrior

[storm rune]

Druid and Warrior 🤝 only good spec is tank

[dusty bluff]

DH?

[modest condor]

it's funny because that's true for neither of those classes (idk about dh)

[tender star]

Is the any reason to not just macro dragon roar to recklessness/avatar for opener?

[crisp mica]

time to go surv

[dense elbow]

Not really, just have their own buttons for those situations as well

[calm quartz]

Don't talk to me or my sons ever again

[dry hawk]

Bruh I suck total ass https://www.wowanalyzer.com/report/JQYdDAqLn6zv4FwV/15-Normal+Ulgrax+the+Devourer+-+Kill+(1:35)/Gridwar/standard/overview

[split coyote]

What are the best tanks for you guys in keys? Dks have been pretty bad for me. 9-10s

[fast mural]

this hasnt been updated for years now

[dry hawk]

It would still give a general idea?

[storm rune]

Fury Warrior is not currently being maintained by anyone. :(

[fast mural]

the rampage thign for exampleis kinda useless cause we are overcapping on purpose sometimes

[storm rune]

Not too often, but it does value ramp like we're in S3

[fast mural]

S3 shadowlands

[mossy fox]

powerful should do slightly more aoe but fury feels too slow without frenzied so i refuse to play powerful

[heavy dock]

lol fair

i agree it feels quite slow

didnt enrage use to give base haste before tww?

[chilly zodiac]

So with the fury nerfs is it going to be really really bad or are we just complaining

[oblique trail]

Not baseline, it was a talent as well for improved enrage

[runic violet]

how are we doing in M+? I think dog shit

[oblique trail]

But now they just split it into a choice node between getting haste or damage

Right now we're doing fine

In 11.0.5, not as much

[shadow flame]

Will still be ok in raid just because most of the fights are build for fury but, M+ I would stay away

[heavy dock]

but thats in 2 months, surely they fix some stuff until then ;d

[forest owl]

pi on shammy, both priest shammy 617 im 620

[restive peak]

I mean powerful is noticeably better in M+

[runic violet]

oh really

what's your haste

[restive peak]

18%

I think 19 once I throw on 2 mana oils

[runic violet]

hmmm

[radiant plank]

throw some oil on me 😳

[mossy fox]

have you simmed stones vs oil recently

[restive peak]

But our job is burst damage, and consistent ST in AOE spec

[restive peak]

: )

[restive peak]

Nah tbh I just started rockin oils day 1 cuz of price and said fuckit

[heavy dock]

nah bro fuck stones, null stones per craft :kekw:

[radiant plank]

Stones are too expensive

I am not buying any

[restive peak]

Yeah I doubt it's enough of a diff to care

[radiant plank]

till Queen prog

[restive peak]

And I ain't payin triple

[dry hawk]

Oil was simming higher for me

[runic violet]

I do well in boss fight with occassional aoes

but I trail behind in many other situations esp without cd

[mossy fox]

well thats what fury is good at

[heavy dock]

triple? you mean like 6 times more

[runic violet]

I can't keep up with rogue and frost

[radiant plank]

150g for oil vs 1.5k for whetstone

icant

[narrow narwhal]

I'm still doing hissing runes

[restive peak]

Ye that's our job

Blow a pack up every 1.5mins

Kill bosses

And yeah, fuckin whetstones are a meme rn

[sinful spoke]

im ready to reroll chat

[heavy dock]

hm actually lol its 310 mastery still good

[radiant plank]

Breatofpiss

[dry hawk]

If they would let us target the weapon to put it on again that would be great

[radiant plank]

time to roll Che

[narrow narwhal]

I nabbed a few hundred for a few G a pop

[heavy dock]

i rly dont understand why they didnt make runes again

was it such a good qol that they had to remove it?

only crit haste or ap

[severe pier]

feels good to back

[mossy fox]

some enchants dont make sense tbf

[severe pier]

totally agree

[mossy fox]

new speed enchants are the same as df but you can just buy df ones for cheaper atm

for example

[whole gorge]

Does anyone know of a helm armorsmith? Having a really hard time finding one on my server

[copper patio]

Isn’t new 350

[whole gorge]

or have ideas on how to find one

[mossy fox]

and new stones/oils are barely an upgrade from df too

nah boots speed is 250 iirc

[whole gorge]

kinda ridiculous that I can't post a recraft public order

[runic violet]

yea I'm still using howling runes time to time. I had bought like 100 of them at the end of df

[mossy fox]

i go for the stam one though but man they're pricey

[ornate gust]

ya.. i buy DF version

[heavy dock]

i just got def march r2 for 10k ugh

[copper patio]

There’s two versions of it afaik

Cavalry one too

[hallow kraken]

is it better to sim 5T boss or Dungeon Slice for AoE/M+ ?

[lean heart]

enchants/gems are so expensive

the settings are like 17k on my server lmao

[heavy dock]

everything is more expensive cuz of how r3 works now

[runic violet]

I made near 1M in the first week doing gathering/mining. No more poor

[heavy dock]

and it goes both ways, i've been making huge gold from just selling chest enchant lol

[lean heart]

they should just remove the ranks for mats idk

[heavy dock]

nah i think its fine

[whole gorge]

Anyone know of a good way to find an Armorsmith for helms? Having a hard time finding one on my server

[heavy dock]

ask every blacksmith, but why do u need a helmbro

[whole gorge]

bc ya boi fucked up early on

and crafted one

lmao

[heavy dock]

;d

[whole gorge]

yep

[runic violet]

dang

[heavy dock]

well who crafted it

ask them again

[runic violet]

you poor thing

[heavy dock]

i did the same in df with engi goggles

[whole gorge]

life is pain

[heavy dock]

i use to craft engi goggles every expac

but suddenly in df crafts matter >.>

lol

[runic violet]

I decied to go 4pc without helm... so there is that

[fervent yoke]

Fk a zyn exploded in the container got nicotine everywhere

[storm rune]

it was less painful in S2 of DF at least, pretty much everything that wasn't tier was crafted that season lol

fuck did I make so much gold crafting that season

https://tenor.com/view/boom-roasted-the-office-andy-gif-20301680

[heavy dock]

is it normal for ppl to not get any whispers while advertising for crafts

[forest berry]

can i loot curio in lfr if i already have my 4 set in hero ?

[clever path]

how do i get my mains raid progress to show on my alt on raider io? raider io score is coming thru just not the raid

[heavy dock]

ive been doing jw and advertising in trade but legit no one whispered me in like 10 days now lol

[sinful spoke]

cause jc is a dead professions

need to go weapons or armor

[hallow jetty]

Every time i close down weak aura i get this error, does anyone know whats wrong?

[sinful spoke]

all jc was good for in df was gems and lariat

and now alriat doesnt exist

and gems go in the ah

[heavy dock]

figured to some extent.. will prob get a bs

[sinful spoke]

so u dont need orders

[heavy dock]

well ive seen shamans want the neck

but otherwise not much

[runic cypress]

Thats what happens when it costs a Null Stone to make

[slow drift]

Any numbers out on the nerfs yet?

[slow drift]

Any source?

[oblique trail]

Yes, this discord

#updates-midnight

[fervent yoke]

Guys just go aug im getting m plus invites at 590

[placid current]

u knew there are nerfs but didnt check the updates channel weak 😄

[dusty bluff]

Aug?

[slow drift]

Barely use the discord I wont lie, but thanks for the responses

[slow drift]

tyvm

[fervent yoke]

Augmentation evoker

[dusty bluff]

Man mage got it so good

Arcane and aug are good

[fervent yoke]

Yeah mage is the favorite child it’s been that way forever

Even in Diablo sorcs are op

Blizz loves casters

[stable brook]

who casts blizzard

[storm rune]

oh shit

hes on to something

[stable brook]

just asking questions im not a conspiracy theorist

[storm rune]

full on illuminati

[forest berry]

what does that mean ? is it a 3% up or i'm wrong ?

[oblique trail]

It's the 3% aura nerf we already have

[forest berry]

that's the past nerf we had

the 3% damage nerf

i see

[fervent yoke]

I just think the nerfs were rushed. Our burst was strong early in xpac when it was just normal and heroics so our numbers looked really high but now with mobs living much longer in mythics our damage tanks so I don’t get the nerfs either. It’s like Blizzard doesn’t understand how the class they designed around 1.5 min windows works.. I mean they don’t even know what warbreaker is 😭

[mortal warren]

Bye bye fury was fun for how long it took

[past pivot]

furry lol

[forest berry]

deathknight are still out there living their best life i guess ?

[fervent yoke]

They 1000% got an intern designing dps warriors over there

[summer quail]

Yes

[ornate gust]

someone mentioned that they meant a pvp ability not the warbreaker!

[covert void]

'designing' is being polite.

[mortal warren]

Im going to try also uh dk and ofc i stay main arms

[dusty bluff]

So if I want to play melee now, I guess DK is best for dps atm? Melee wise?

[forest owl]

anyone know if its true ele shammy being nerfed 14%?

[torn cobalt]

Dk and pala 🤣

But why change

[dense elbow]

Ret, Warrior, DK - all are solid picks

[olive wraith]

Enh is also in a good spot afaik

[torn cobalt]

Arms war is top now

[dusty bluff]

Really?

[fervent yoke]

Enhance is cranking but it’s a spinning plate spec if you’re about that life I just zug zug

[torn cobalt]

Yeah check warcraft logs they appear to be really good aoe and st…

[dense elbow]

Also Enh is quite squish

DK, Warr, Pala are tanks

[olive wraith]

They have one or the other. Not both at the same time

[dense elbow]

DH, Enh both does great dam - but are glass

[fervent yoke]

Yeah I think DK / pala would be the best alt to warr dps

[torn cobalt]

I mean yeah you pick, few classes has both

[dense elbow]

Mid ground would be monk or feral

[torn cobalt]

Feral is sht 🤣

[fervent yoke]

WW Monk is fun asf

[dense elbow]

Feral pumps

[torn cobalt]

Unless you got perfect rotation on feral

You energy starve

[crisp bronze]

Monk true spin to win class

[merry night]

hold the fucking line chat i aint letting them beat us

[torn cobalt]

Yeah i mean the nerfs kinda affect the top1%ers

[hard widget]

🤔

[torn cobalt]

If you cassualy paly war it’s not that bad

[dense elbow]

I argue these changes affect the masses more than the 1%

as they nerf burst

For the top1% the burst is worth less than the avg player

[merry night]

its affecting the 1%ers a lot...

[torn cobalt]

I’ve been playing for the past week and i do not see that much of a difference

[hard widget]

Kek i miswrote Jevknight 😂

[fervent yoke]

Guys I mean they could potentially buff us too

To compensate

[dry hawk]

So reck-charge-avatar-ramp-bs-tr-ramp-of. Is that a shit opener?

[fervent yoke]

Or give us utility

[dense elbow]

I want some of that good copium you got there

[exotic glacier]

sweet summer child

[fervent yoke]

Haha trying to hold strong

[dense elbow]

I held strong in DF

[fervent yoke]

With the glass half full mentality

[dense elbow]

then TWW arrived

gave hope

[dense elbow]

then slappe me into the dirt and rubbed my face in shit

[fervent yoke]

Rip 😦

[torn cobalt]

It has war in it’s name…

It should be the era of warriors….

[oblique trail]

Do not do this

[merry night]

do dat

[dense elbow]

Dont

it doesnt work

[oblique trail]

First of all that's a really good way to send your potion when you don't need to

[spare steppe]

Don’t do dat

[merry night]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-oh-yes-yes-o-yeah-yes-no-yes-go-on-yea-yes-gif-14382673246413447193

[oblique trail]

Second of all, you're clipping your OF dot massively

[dense sedge]

that macro is shit

[fervent yoke]

I do macro avatar and reck together sorry

[merry night]

fuck em we send full blast on pulls

[spare steppe]

Also you should do [group:raid]

[dry hawk]

I'm not a 1 button macro nut

[spare steppe]

Trunk u bad

[dense elbow]

You not going to comment on the GCD lock?

[bitter palm]

i macro ballz

[fervent yoke]

He’s parsing 97 with that macro

[copper patio]

Buff aura, buff improved whirlwind, leave odyns target cap but half its dmg and cooldown, and 8s dot

[exotic glacier]

Feels like DBZ Trunks in here making macros

[merry night]

[oblique trail]

I think he probably realised it himself at some point so didn't feel the need to make it worse for him

[spare steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/no-family-guy-bad-dog-newspaper-peter-gif-8108196576766934699

[oblique trail]

But yes it will never use TR if you got OF talented

[dense elbow]

[merry night]

i bang on open i zug

am zug zug

[dense elbow]

At least remove OF out of it

[fervent yoke]

Unga bunga zug zug

[dense elbow]

so you roar

for more deeps

[oblique trail]

You'd Charge -> Reck + Avatar -> Ramp -> TR/Spear -> BS -> OF (if talented) -> Start rotation

[dry hawk]

So, the opener I posted still bad?

[fervent yoke]

just pop coolies and hit rampage u will be fine

[merry night]

I OF before BS that macro is also a troll

[spiral shell]

Just re roll fury dead

[torn cobalt]

Isn’t of after bs better?

[fervent yoke]

No OF before BS

[dense elbow]

Dont spread troll to ppl genuinly asking for advice

[torn cobalt]

I mean if you have avatar up

[night relic]

u still have avatar up

pop of after

[fervent yoke]

Avatar/reck - ramp- of - ramp - bs - ramp

[merry night]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-orc-angry-gif-12083808

[oblique trail]

You will always have Avatar ready when you BS if it's the opener

?

[dry hawk]

I was asking because I'm shit parsing

[oblique trail]

If your OF and BS aligns outside of CDs sure, send OF first into BS

Your opener is not the issue

[merry night]

Charge -> Reck + Ava -> Ramp -> TR -> OF -> BS

[oblique trail]

You can do the opener in many different ways, as long as you get your CDs used

[torn cobalt]

Sometimes hekili is telling me to use of before and sometimes after in the opener and i want to know which is better as i’d like to give up on hekili

[oblique trail]

Mate

[night relic]

are you dying on those parses?

[merry night]

pull ur actual damage charts up

[oblique trail]

Send OF after BS

like

You want BS on CD asap to make full use of its CDR component

[merry night]

wait why tho banezi

[dry hawk]

Some yes some no

[fervent yoke]

Seems like a uptime issue to me

[oblique trail]

And if you send OF after BS, you will always make sure you don't clip your OFs dot

[calm quartz]

Only fans dot

[spiral shell]

Why are you using hekili on warrior

[oblique trail]

Simple uptime issue will not cause you do suddenly gray parse

[dry hawk]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JQYdDAqLn6zv4FwV gridwar

[merry night]

hes gotta be losing enrage

like a lot

[torn cobalt]

I am 3 weeks old on wow and 1 week old on warrior

Don’t want to deal 150 dps

🥲

[oblique trail]

Right so when I said your opener wont be the issue, you could definitely work on improving it because spreading your CDs that naturally align out by almost 20 seconds is not ideal

[merry night]

so you wanna use rampage after you press Bloodbath and Crushing blow

then Sudden death (Execute when its glowing) when its up

[torn cobalt]

Yeah

[merry night]

Fill in with WW/Slam if

[clever mural]

Why is no one playong thane this week? Finally beat my ret friend overall trying it in mist +8 🤷‍♀️

[torn cobalt]

I am learning the rotation

[oblique trail]

Because Thane is not good

[fickle cedar]

its garbanzo

[oblique trail]

You beating your friend is not indicative of Thane being the better pick

[dry hawk]

I'm just tired of being shit at game

[olive wraith]

We don’t prio SD procs that high

[fervent yoke]

I beat our arcane mage and fdk in raid this week doesn’t mean they are weaker than fury just means im more skilled 😎

[oblique trail]

I also beat a FDK using a suboptimal talent setup with Thane, which in that sense would mean that Fury is better than FDK which isn't the case

[spare steppe]

If AJ is gonna fall off we do!

[olive wraith]

He didn’t mention aj

[merry night]

unless hes basically outta time for enrage ud exe no?

[spare steppe]

Hmm true guess he’s wrong

[olive wraith]

Rb>ex

[merry night]

but BS CDR?

[olive wraith]

Unless 3 MoE or what mandrag said

[spare steppe]

There are some fights where you want to prioritize execute so BS is up for padding, I mean killing adds

[dusty bluff]

Guys Which is more difficult, arms or fury?

[spare steppe]

Like Ansurek if you’ve been assigned to having CDs for every silken tomb

[jovial coral]

if you beat him that means your class is just better!! cmon bonzo use some common sense

[oblique trail]

I will beat you

[olive wraith]

They’re both easy

The difference in difficulty is negligible

[dusty bluff]

For fury I need like 14 keys lol

How many keys are yall using

[spare steppe]

What?

[night relic]

huh

[dusk knot]

71 keys

[fervent yoke]

Worst part about all this is majority of the wow community still thinks fury is extremely strong so ya probably won’t get any buffs or utility to compensate

[dusty bluff]

Oh

[spare steppe]

Warriors have so much utility like aoe stun, ST stun, and uh, 10% health on a 3m cd

/s

[raw kelp]

Guys, when do you pop Rampoage ?
Do you stack up RB anything before using rampage ?
Are you always following up with a bloodfury after rampage ?

[spare steppe]

Trust the wowhead priority guide

[olive wraith]

Bloodfury=bloodbath?

[raw kelp]

Ahh yeah bloodbath / bloodfury correct 🙂 ok so wowhead prio.. ill check it out

[merry night]

Imo fury is harder but im sure thats up for debate

[willow cradle]

Use Crushing Blow and Bloodbath before Rampage unless Enraged is going to drop off

[covert blaze]

arms

[sinful spoke]

TIME TO GAMBLE CHAT

[merry night]

[sinful spoke]

DECLINE RO INVITE

[restive peak]

On ST arms is easier, on AOE arms is harder

ST arms is legit like 3 buttons with very little nuance or variance or reactionary play of any kind

[willow cradle]

Both are simple specs, anyone saying Arms is harder is on copium

[restive peak]

I mean every spec on WoW is easy

[merry night]

besides Enh

[willow cradle]

The simplicity is fantastic

[covert blaze]

he dint ask if theyre hard

he asked which one is harder

[restive peak]

Once you play any spec for 1-2hrs on a dummy, it clicks and becomes easy

[covert blaze]

arms has more nuance imo

[hard widget]

Jesus i just got overkilled 2m through d stance on +12 NW first boss

[merry night]

teach me enhance papa linc

[restive peak]

Yeah, and I said ST < fury is harder and AOE < arms is harder

There is no nuance to ST arms

[sinful spoke]

does new arms play battlelord?

[willow cradle]

Oh I misread then

[restive peak]

Zero

[earnest grail]

haha good one, because Fury has no aoe anymore

[restive peak]

Enhance is a bit of a mess but still flows once you learn it

[restive peak]

Fury has tons of AOE still, we'll have none if the PTR goes live

[earnest grail]

it was a joke 😄

[dry hawk]

[next mica]

is arms still about using ignore pain and thunderclap to consume rage?

[earnest grail]

but our aoe is shit compare to shaman or DK

[restive peak]

It 110% is not

[willow cradle]

PTR? The PTR isn't real and can't hurt us.

[earnest grail]

the burst yes

but not the sustained

[cerulean gyro]

Quick question
can someone give me the opening rotation for fury warrior? not sure if im doing it right

[restive peak]

The only enh even pumping M+ right now is Greg, and Greg would smack everyone on any class

[covert blaze]

most specs are on ST talents

[restive peak]

Yes, but you yourself just posted this

[restive peak]

^

So I answered

[covert blaze]

i wasnt alking to you

[clever shore]

In rotation ‍Bloodbath when to throw it before Crushing Blow?

[covert blaze]

when i typed that

[restive peak]

ST arms is literally the easiest spec in the game, it's even easier than BM hunter nowadays

[eager thorn]

Who is greg

[restive peak]

The melee/movement requirements make arms not easier than BM, but rotationally on a dummy...easy

[restive peak]

https://raider.io/characters/us/tichondrius/Gregsh

[eager thorn]

2800 damn

Dudes a gamer

[brittle crow]

i love gambling and im not joking

i WANT to do tank dps if i get unlucky

[restive peak]

Ye Greg is a beast

[earnest grail]

I have one question. I read it here. Why BS before OF?

[brittle crow]

because of already ticking

[restive peak]

BS is a legit ST CD now

Also because in AOE you've procced OF off avatar

And it aligns w the dot reset

[earnest grail]

I mean, i start with Reck, charge, ramp, avatar+OF

[brittle crow]

dont

[raw kelp]

OF = Only Fans?

[frozen lake]

Whoops

[restive peak]

Hold OF til BS ends

[brittle crow]

ur wasting half ur odyns that way

[eager thorn]

Ur missing out on uptime on OF dot

[gusty compass]

Is it still Ascension that is the best embelishment for weapons?

[frozen lake]

Wasted OF dot

[earnest grail]

But why im wasting it? 🤔 I dont understand that

[brittle crow]

doesn't stack like that

[frozen lake]

It doesn't add to the duration

[olive wraith]

You overwrite the duration

[eager thorn]

Using avatar makes odyns fury cast with the talent

[frozen lake]

It just overwrites it

[brittle crow]

only stacks if 1 sec or less remaining

[earnest grail]

ah you mean Avatar+OF

[eager thorn]

You wanna avatar > bs > of

[earnest grail]

okay, i was wondering. Because my Avatar Duration stacks

Alright, thank you for that advice!

[eager thorn]

Ye the duration does but the of damage doesnt

[olive wraith]

Avatar duration does. Of bleed does not

[earnest grail]

So -> Reck -> Charge -> Ramp -> Avatar -> BS -> OF ?

[eager thorn]

I roar after avatar to get the thunderous words dmg increase

[fervent yoke]

At least if you play enhance well it’s reflected on the meters and you aren’t getting beat by green parsing mages

[eager thorn]

On the OF bleeds

[earnest grail]

ahh the Roar, right. Forgot about it

[covert blaze]

the guy didnt ask about st specifically

[humble plover]

Is arms basically button ready me press?

[coarse nest]

Yer

Press the hardest hitting flashy button

[olive wraith]

The difference in difficulty between arms and fury is so small

It’s not worth mentioning

[exotic glacier]

the sadness I feel from it though... immeasureable

[restive peak]

Yes lol

[humble plover]

Need to start doing arms for the pure st. Cause sheesh fury feels so dog on sikran

[fervent yoke]

Since warriors were the hero class of wow classic the community is always going to think we are op so we will never be top dawgs

[restive peak]

Brother, the hostility; why? I said which was easier for both ST and AOE, I never said he asked for ST

Then you continued on and on

It's like I've offended you by saying arms is easy

[olive wraith]

I think it’s time to prot

[exotic glacier]

😦

[humble plover]

Prot really fun ngl

[brittle crow]

bottom 1 innit

[quick schooner]

Guys dose paladin do more dps or same dps in mythic plus as us ?

[olive wraith]

Arms isn’t bottom for st

[brittle crow]

fury

is

[covert blaze]

there is no hostility

[humble plover]

It's down there yeah lol..idk if dead last

[meager gyro]

You’re easy 😮‍💨

[frozen lake]

I heard you need to reapply rend manually in arms now

[covert blaze]

i was clarifying i wasnt responding to you originally

[restive peak]

Only when you ask nicely

[clever shore]

can someone create a wa de ‍Rampage when 115+ rage

[covert blaze]

just a misunderstanding

[slim grotto]

How cucked am I if I’m using fury gear set as Arms for ST? Basically all Mas/Haste. Is it just better to just stay fury?

[humble plover]

Not that cucked

[feral ivy]

good or bad 9 mist?

[restive peak]

Regardless, there are very few actually difficult specs in WoW, and that's by design

[fervent yoke]

I’ve yet to see anyone mention sv hunters how are they doing?

[silver ibex]

is anyone elses spell reflect wa broken?

[restive peak]

I use my fury for arms Krysis, arms still sims higher...arms likes all stats

[restive peak]

Impossible to know without seeing the pulls

[feral ivy]

oh ok 😦

[meager gyro]

🥺oh me big arms Linc with the daddy ilvl

[humble plover]

Yeah I swap a mast>crit ring to haste>mast for arms and that's it lol

[olive wraith]

There’s like 10 players that’s why

[slim grotto]

Gotcha, will try it out

[covert blaze]

my thought process is that arms is ''harder'' cause you actually change your prio in aoe and stuff if you run cleave

[restive peak]

M+ damage is heavily determinded by pull size, it's a really hard metric to say when someone did good or bad unless it's a higher end key unfortunately

[covert blaze]

there's more stuff to know, not exactly about execution

[restive peak]

For example, say you did NW...and you did like 8 pulls total, each pull was 3-4 packs

You're gonna end 500k+ higher overall than someone who did 12-13 smaller pulls

[feral ivy]

why is it diff in higher key?

[restive peak]

Mobs live longer, pulls are bigger

[slim grotto]

More hp = more zug

[feral ivy]

mm ok ok

tyty

[signal locust]

So do I spam arcane blast and just use arcane missile on procs?

[slim grotto]

Get out of here

[olive wraith]

Spam frostbolt

Slow down everything

[signal locust]

Spams fan of knives as he leaves

[fading bane]

Heroic Strike -> arcane blast

[humble plover]

Chaos bolt

[abstract path]

Guys, any idea how bad fury would be post 20th anniversary nerfs? Are you guys planning to re-roll?

[olive wraith]

Bolt of weaverthread

[humble plover]

No I'm braindead and will always play fury main

[slim grotto]

I’m deleting my entire account and chargebacking 16 years

[signal locust]

I'm only going to do single target in all combat situations

[olive wraith]

There’s a lot of doom

[fickle cedar]

we'll be fine its just perception gets even worse m+ wise

[olive wraith]

We haven’t seen numbers yet but it’s grim

[covert blaze]

i will never understand people who reroll after a nerf

[burnt kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285000719023472733/image0.gif

its very simple

spec gets nerfed 3 times : nobody invites you for m+

[half cargo]

Steiner math, classic :’)

[burnt kelp]

so you reroll

or you aren't allowed to play the game

[covert blaze]

if you wanted m+ invites you wouldn't be playing warrior in the first place

huh

[restive peak]

I truly believe there's more to come for warrs, I know we all wanna doom and hate Blizz but I don't think they'll literally kill the spec

[dusty bluff]

Then what would you play

[restive peak]

It's more likely they're moving us towards the 5T niche and we'll see some ST buffs coming

[abstract path]

I feel we are already Down and am unable to out dps a ret or dk in M+ even though they are so much ilvl lesser

[slim grotto]

You’re right, prot is next so they kill the entire class

[covert blaze]

idk im not a fotm reroller

[night relic]

but i wanna spin

[dry bone]

wait did the rescind the nerfs to warrior?

dont see it in the patch nots anymore

[night relic]

spin = big dam

[olive wraith]

S3 DF please

[restive peak]

And warrior will never be meta for M+, if your goal is M+ you should roll a mage/aug/tank/healer

[restive peak]

^

[humble plover]

We are already sandbagging rasaha'nan now so we stop looking so good on logs

[covert blaze]

how are m+ pulls these days in high keys

[restive peak]

Just give me S3 back

[covert blaze]

ive done like 0 m+

[dusty bluff]

Spin to win

[olive wraith]

I had a blast s3

[covert blaze]

are there a lot of big pulls?

[restive peak]

We're pulling pretty big, right now we're extremely strong

Some dungeons yes, some no...this is an interesting M+ season from that perspective

[willow cradle]

But what else am I supposed to do while I'm getting declined to +10 keys on my 300 Io Warrior?

[tender sky]

[abstract path]

I guess it also comes down to our emblishments as well. Since our M+ and raid have the same. Maybe things might change and if we get better emblishments then we might come too again

[humble plover]

I've had really solid m+ performance so far. Maybe not the best every pull but I rarely lose boss DPS and overall typically win

[slim grotto]

Are you guys typically beating rets in m+ and raid?

[restive peak]

If they put this out without any kind of compensatory buff, fury is likely an overall dead spec for anything realistically high end

[olive wraith]

I can’t even get into 6s. Stupid dps lfg

[restive peak]

And they won't do that

[tender sky]

I think they want to move all classes away from 8+ targets, and it’s all ogre

[restive peak]

Definitely just blame the devs and not the overload of DPS, surely it's cuz people hate brown D:

I would absolutely support them moving M+ more to smaller pulls with more deadly things happening

And imposing target caps on all classes

[night relic]

st yes , aoe every 2 packs

[tender sky]

I mean, I think they have been attempting that specifically with this expansion

[restive peak]

The problem is they keep capping all melee hard, and leaving casters uncapped

[tender sky]

And with the cc change

[restive peak]

And then pikachu facing when the meta becomes caster always

[tender sky]

They just haven’t hit the mark lol

[restive peak]

Yeah some of the dungeons are very clearly aimed that direction, and I enjoy it

[olive wraith]

One day feral will be supreme

[tender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[olive wraith]

With all the bleeds

[burnt kelp]

feral will never be surpreme

cuz they are ferals

[restive peak]

They design in a way that, eventually, melee can't risk it

[willow cradle]

I think it's the only way to truly bring a semblance of balance to M+ but the backlash Blizz got for trying it in shadowlands prob burned Blizzard

[vague copper]

WW monk!

[restive peak]

It's literally a design flaw, not a class issue

[humble plover]

Surely next time I do rasaha'nan I go full at and let the warlock catch the nerf right?

[night relic]

i wanna spin and press 2 buttons 😄

[olive wraith]

People are already doing this

[slim grotto]

It’s okay guys, we all respec Prot and we’ll do more damage than fury ezgame

[vague copper]

😛

[tender sky]

Largely varying dungeon density within a season is another way to prevent a god comp from establishing

[restive peak]

If they do it all at once and do it right, people will get past it; the tank changes caused a literal mental breakdown and now it turned out fine

[olive wraith]

Ads don’t contribute to logs

[tender sky]

That’s a great point re different dungeons

[humble plover]

Yeah Ik 😦

[restive peak]

I did rasha as AOE last night and just sent CDs on CD into boss or adds, but still cleaved, and parsed a 90

Don't int your raid

[dry hawk]

so Rampage/Crushing Blow/BloodBath need about the same amount of casts?

[restive peak]

Just adjust away from holding for adds

[dense elbow]

Looks decent - a bit lowend, but if pad went into hunter/pally it is to be expected

[restive peak]

110%, and this season has that a bit

[olive wraith]

Ideally yes

[humble plover]

The rasaha'nan experience

[nimble kraken]

Aoe Odyn’s gives avatar. Do I jam bladestorm with the mini avatar immediately to ensure avatar str is up for the channel? Or do I sneak it in right before the avatar str falls off and it still affects the whole channel?

[olive wraith]

Lmao 300k deduction

[dry hawk]

thats an additional issue for me then

78 ramp/58 CB/ 61 BB

[olive wraith]

Ya that’s a big Nono

[night relic]

rashanan arms and hold bs a bit for adds is the way to go

[sinful spoke]

nah chat

im deleting my warrior

[olive wraith]

It’s fine if you over cap rage. If that’s your worry

[sinful spoke]

WHY AM I NOT GETTING INTO KEYS

7S

HELLO

[olive wraith]

It’s your mog

[humble plover]

Warrior

[sinful spoke]

wallahi im swaping

whats fotm rn

[tender sky]

Is your peepee score high enough? +7s mean you need a 2300 io

[torpid sand]

Because you're a warrior, basically

[night relic]

low ass haste

[nimble kraken]

Dps are a dime a dozen, fury doesn’t bring much group utility. Unless your ilvl or io are nuts youre getting skipped

[restive peak]

Everyone should be forced to post their key

And leave it, uninvited, for 15mins

It will BLOW YOUR MIND

To see the 100+ DPS apply within minutes

Then you'd realize it's a pug issue, not a warrior one

[still basin]

Did I miss updates or is it still Double Vers Embellishment ( or Nerubian Sigil )

[sinful spoke]

oh i know

[olive wraith]

I sometimes sit for 5 and don’t get much

[sinful spoke]

i just wanna complain

[olive wraith]

Could be my time zone though

[restive peak]

Respect dawg

Sometimes we gotta let it out

[torpid sand]

Linc, i got a +6 NW, the room been up for 20 minutes, no one applies

[nimble kraken]

You want 7s you ought to learn prot. No where near enough tanks if you can stomach it

[tender sky]

The best way to get into groups will always be to make healer and tank friends

[sinful spoke]

if i post as tank it fills up instantly

[restive peak]

Are you EU and it's 2am? Lol

[sinful spoke]

but i dont like prot warrior

[slim grotto]

Na it’s a warrior issue. 2200io getting denied for 7s is crazy work

[torpid sand]

I'm NA and it's 12PM

[humble plover]

No I don't want reason I only want angry

[restive peak]

Well I mean...it's noon bro

[olive wraith]

I’m Hawaii so the states are sleeping

[dusty bluff]

In other words play tank?!

[sand crest]

this is the only thing warr brings : (

dmg

[restive peak]

95% of players are workin lmao

[torpid sand]

SO AM I!

[restive peak]

Yes, unironically, if you want to pug and don't want to wait, you should tank

[dry hawk]

you do a shit ton more damage using the 2 after rampage... holy

[restive peak]

But if you thjink rerolling arcane mage will get you insta invites, you're kidding yourself

[dry hawk]

I didnt realize capping the rage to use the 2 was that much more

[night relic]

i changed to tank and pugged all my 8s for rating

its braindead easy

[nimble kraken]

Last season I was literally full bis, max ilvl 2800ish rating and I couldn’t get into 7s. It was disgusting

[burnt kelp]

if you reroll aug tho

you'll get invites

you know what to do

🫡

[restive peak]

I will say Aug is probably the 1 exception

[dusty bluff]

Interesting

[tender sky]

The new filtering system as a tank you can just filter for “has healer” “tank available” and get instantly invited

[humble plover]

If you want invites be more attractive than the other 100 DPS signing up

[sinful spoke]

the time has come

[olive wraith]

S4 had less players didn’t it?

[restive peak]

But all dpsers sit in queue for ages

[dusty bluff]

Burn I like Melee

[lone sage]

no it wont, fury upper upper

[nimble kraken]

It did, but I mean max ilvl with the Lego extra ilvls and still couldn’t get in, was insane

[prisma rose]

LMAO

[dusty bluff]

Aug mage vs fury in raid what’s better

[nimble kraken]

I was like 3rd for server ilvl on my mini shard just cause my crafted embellishments meant more damage than just wearing all myths

[lost saffron]

616 is pretty low already ngl

Its what most people have

you are competing with

[restive peak]

Current raid?

[dusty bluff]

Yes

[night relic]

616 aint low for 7s

[restive peak]

Fury is BIS for 6/8 fights, arcane is great on all

Aug is also only needed on the latter fights it appears

[oblique trail]

Would go Arms on Silken prob

[restive peak]

True

Actually

[lone sage]

i been invited easily with my ret and dk with lower ilvl and io

[restive peak]

So 5/8

[sinful spoke]

am i a prot paladin or a prot warrior they'll never know

[lone sage]

[restive peak]

But arms is also 1 of the better specs on the other 3

So warr is pretty solid

[humble plover]

Mage?

[lost saffron]

I get invited too, I have 625 and 2.6k rio

But below that as warrior

idk

[sinful spoke]

close ele shammy

[lost saffron]

I doubt people pick warriors when they can choose dk instead

with same ill

[restive peak]

Shamans really do be the coolest aesthetic

[lost saffron]

and same rio

[lone sage]

my ret and dk have both 10 ilvl less than my war and way less io and get invited way easily into keys

[summer quail]

how did you do that much damage on a single target fight?

[lone sage]

kinda nuts

[tender sky]

The average dk does better than the average war

[lost saffron]

Yeh exactly what I am saying

[dry hawk]

this situation right here. I get into a lot and because I see the rampage I send that

[humble plover]

789k. Impressive right?

[tender sky]

And snap threat is annoying for tanks

[runic violet]

I keep getting outdpsd by dks ... fuck

[lost saffron]

Crushing blow

[summer quail]

i'm just memeing the warcraft logs decision to remove adds from logs

[dry hawk]

yeah realizing now its higher dps to send the 2 abilitys then ramp again

[lost saffron]

2 abilities?

no

[dry hawk]

regaurdless of what your rage bar says BB and CB

[lost saffron]

you crushing blow into rampage into bloodbath

[humble plover]

Parse be damned, I did my civil duty of removing the ads from the fight

[lost saffron]

Nah thats also not true

in aoe it is

[clever mural]

Revvez seem to be pumping in myth queen. Fury op again? 🥸

[tender sky]

It’s just crushing blow unless you have vicious contempt

[lost saffron]

Hes in multitarget situation

there you definitely bloodbath

[dusty bluff]

So no
More waiting to full rage then rampage?

[lone sage]

idk if trolling

[lost saffron]

you bloodbath over cb even

[tender sky]

We over cap rage now in multi target a bunch yeah

[dusty bluff]

Ok

Single no?

[lost saffron]

Depends

[broken pawn]

how bad are the hotfix + 20th anniversary nerfs going to be for us?

[restive peak]

ST in lust + CDs you'll overcap sometimes, but it won't matter

[humble plover]

Can someone tell me why it's okay that sikran can target you with decimate right after charge?

[nimble kraken]

Rashanan isn’t single target, it’s got adds that line up really well with fury’s damage profiles

[night relic]

hc raids feels like u might aswell go 6/8 arms since adds die so quick with ppls current gear

[humble plover]

Fighting for my life

[lost saffron]

The adds also need to die

because else you wipe

🙂

[restive peak]

^

Play ethical and win

[summer quail]

[lone sage]

padding gonna pad

[olive wraith]

Wclogs claims it’s a single target

[humble plover]

Ethical padding*

[restive peak]

Yeah WCL is stupid as hell, parses are also a meme and a minigame for farm