fury

[covert void]

but sometimes it would be nice if all classes got a go at the top.

[pulsar quest]

I do NOT want to play arms

Arms is boring as fuck right now

[kind sundial]

Ain't no way

[waxen dagger]

mfw damage to bosses

[polar roost]

time to level my shaman HYPERS~2

[covert void]

also, clearly they don't check or give a fuck about m+ data. which is such a stupid way of balancing a class when it's one of the most played, maybe even the most played form of content.

[earnest grail]

Small Indie Company

[crude ridge]

I mean this is nothing new. We were trash in boss damage all last expack as well.

[amber nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[lament hinge]

just wait for legion classic

[crude ridge]

This tbh

[verbal rivet]

They’ll target cap OG Odyns Fury

[waxen dagger]

I'd love to relive the goku meme

[verbal rivet]

You know they want to

[wheat estuary]

I also dont understand how they leave some classes totally uncapped and then others capped

like why bruh

[chilly comet]

** THIS IS AN OUTRAGE **

[obsidian wraith]

The sheer amount of data you could get from M+ is definitely much higher than you would from raiding. Though the fights are much longer in raiding so they could be nerfing purely on the first 3 minutes of each fight (which makes no sense given warrior sustain is average at best)

[chilly comet]

we must march on blizz HQ

[lament hinge]

just spam send feedback till they buff us

[brazen ferry]

(Blade)Storm the Blizz Capitol

[molten spear]

Ok i fucking had enough of thos bullshit

[radiant dirge]

Anyone else remember the bloody murder mages screamed about when Arcane Int was nerfed from 5% to 3%? I wonder if any of them even remember that nerf now

[covert void]

still also love our attack range btw. awesome.

[brittle crow]

melee should be melee range

dont @ me

[verbal rivet]

Have you seen Ret Paladin?

[brazen ferry]

or Frost DK

[brittle crow]

yea they should be neutered too

[obsidian wraith]

but if i use the biggest swords with transmog, should i have longer range?

[brittle crow]

melee should be melee range!!

[lament hinge]

so guess we just reroll or quit tbh

[verbal rivet]

Time for the Prot retirement home

[obsidian wraith]

if we all reroll mages, will they get nerfed?

[lament hinge]

or fdk

[wheat estuary]

fdk kinda sucks in st too dont they?

[bitter palm]

hooooly

no way

mage got buffed

[verbal rivet]

Sure. looks at 20 years of patch notes sure they will

[kind sundial]

Man I just hit 78 too

[blissful delta]

time to swap

[storm rune]

Someone already called it in fucking pre-release, fire is gonna get incremental buffs until it's S tier

[kind sundial]

[normal mirage]

Alright boys looks like it's time to roll Frosk DK since it's impossible to out do them in keys and most of raid now.

[charred patrol]

fk this class

[bitter palm]

ofc its mage

[crude ridge]

What I wanna know is what piece of data did they look at to determine fury needed this nerf? That's what we really need to see.

[leaden needle]

I'll be playing preservation/devastation i guess. Gonna try and get a char leveled and raid ready maybe by next week >>

[bitter palm]

rashanan

[lament hinge]

warrior like always bottom class

[earnest grail]

when this goes live, i will reroll instant and iam a Warrior Player since MoP. Back to Rogue i guess

[crude ridge]

If that's the case then they're idiots which they already are but that would make them even bigger idiots

[bitter palm]

it is the reason

someone didnt like

warriors soloing adds

[forest owl]

guys get on the forums do what other specs do, cry as much as you can, it wont help here.

[pearl sequoia]

nah critcake making a video right now

[crude ridge]

funny cause now the adds don't even count on logs anymore

[pearl sequoia]

cookin

[covert void]

honestly, it'll probably get ignored but if you're frustrated post on the forums. Nothing else we can do really.

[polar roost]

surely there has to be a dev here hiding and laughing about us crying

[vestal root]

100%

[sinful spoke]

https://www.twitch.tv/critcakeeu/clip/SpikyHappyEggplantPhilosoraptor-Q369PuFIwqrn0iZR

nah bro cause why does blizzard fucking hate us

[bitter palm]

someone at blizz didnt like fury soloing adds

[storm rune]

Look at what happens everytime we get nerfed "Oh it's not that bad, we're still good"

gotta bitch moan and scream more

[serene vessel]

Well boys, that's another AoE nerf with no meat cleaver compensation

[bitter palm]

ok go

soft cap

everything to 5 then

wizards

perma uncapped

[serene vessel]

Not sure why fury m+ keeps getting fucked because they designed the raid poorly

[whole latch]

how about whirlwind cleaves for 100% dmg rather than 55% if they are killing our burst aoe?

[pulsar quest]

So now we have to play arms which basically has full st or aoe and no in between

[waxen dagger]

and is unfun to play

[verbal rivet]

Oh boy, Rallying Cry and Battle Shout. Glad we exist to make Frost DKs marginally better.

[spare flume]

I mean, at least you guys do more damage than warlocks. They're pretty down bad this season.

[wheat estuary]

rerolling to enhance it is

[covert void]

hey guys, new expansion? enjoying your new fury spec? well, fuck that we want you to play arms now.

[bitter palm]

xd

sure

[stray compass]

Arms did even get more nerfed apparently

[blissful delta]

?????????????

[vernal laurel]

Here is how to save the Spec.

1. Remove SMF, make it cosmetic,
2. Revert the PTR nerf, and also the previous nerf done to fury
3. Buff Rampage damage when not cleaving with Whirlwind

🙂

[tawdry bane]

Has this guy seen a warlock lol

[crude ridge]

What?

[verbal rivet]

Mhm….sure. affliction doing 1.2M sustained ST in raids is “down bad”

[pearl sequoia]

aff lock is pumpin

[stray compass]

Aff is strong af

[wheat estuary]

and buff thane thunder to like 50% more damage to primary

[vernal laurel]

And also, where the heck are the Mountain Thane buffs? Does not seem like they are even trying to balance the two hero specs

[verbal rivet]

I’m boutta lose to a survival hunter who will do more with one wildfire bomb then my whole Odyns Fury

[clear tendon]

Where is the ret paladin aoe nerf! Seriously we’re so bad outside of cooldowns we need the burst aoe to even compete with other classes in keys

[wheat estuary]

feels bad the mainstay ability isnt good in ST lol

[leaden needle]

I think we're slated to be one of the lowest specs pretty soon, down with Aug but with none of the advantages to the group

[winter shoal]

I mean arms also does that but that doesn't fit my narrative

[brazen ferry]

Looking at the data these changes just don't make sense.

[whole latch]

imagine doing late farm reclears with the fury nerfs lmao

[waxen dagger]

I sure enjoyed getting invited to pug m+ groups sometimes
we'll be back to the good ol' never

[verbal rivet]

A lot of specs do it. But don’t be saying “Locks are bad, trust”

[leaden needle]

Yeah if they could pick to nerf us inside cooldowns OR outside cooldowns I think I could stomach it

[covert void]

you put so much time into starting a season, and gold. gear, crafts. raiding etc. Just so some womble can fuck your spec in two resets.

[verbal rivet]

I know fury players can’t read, but god damn.

[leaden needle]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

But instead

[lament hinge]

already not getting invited lol

[vital sonnet]

bring back banners and make them rotational

[brazen ferry]

💯

[whole latch]

just listen to blizzard and buy 10 tokens to afford regearing your char reroll after you buy a boost

[forest owl]

nothing blizzard does ever makes sense tbh oh fury dropped halfway down into week 2? your st is the worst..pffft screw that you guys deserve a 3rd nerf.

[crude ridge]

sooooooooooooooooooooooo much gold

[sturdy river]

maybe they will give us lust to compensate

[graceful ruin]

wont compensate for shit

[crude gate]

Am I dooming or did we just get murdered for m+

[leaden needle]

Yeah this feels bad being like down 150k on crafts for a class going in the dunpster... and i can't just buy a wow token anytime like some.

[bitter palm]

how would that compensate xd

[verbal rivet]

I’m 608 and getting declined for +2s my guy

[crude ridge]

The doom is warranted

[pliant stone]

They cut off our ankles with the 8 target cap, now they're takin off our legs with this crap, fury si going to drop hard for m+

[sturdy river]

lil less damage lil more utility

[whole latch]

@leaden needle full r3 enchants is like 300k

[bitter palm]

xd nice utility bro

[ornate gust]

Ya. I am questioning myself if playing this game does worth it.

[bitter palm]

u def wont have shaman/mage in ur group

perma

[normal mirage]

warlocks pump if you play your class correctly.

[marble spruce]

i have a feeling we’ll see some single target buffs before 11.0.5 is live

[bitter palm]

if u want to give us utility give us something unique to us

[verbal rivet]

Was torn between this and WW. Gambled wrong

[sturdy river]

looking for positive spin @bitter palm 😄

[bitter palm]

lust wouldnt change shit

[crude gate]

We weren't even in the top 5 specs for m+ before this nerf. What can I re roll to that won't get nerfed? I feel like fdk?

[whole latch]

focused rage!

[graceful ruin]

positive spin is you can still roll a mage or shaman

[bitter palm]

give us banners/vigilance/mass sr or something

[wheat estuary]

arms might be the worst feeling spec in the game

[slow wadi]

I was in an m+ with a ret. 619 gear in most slots. Terror and shadow-binding trinket. 4-set. 1.33mil average. On most packs he was hitting over 3 mil. One after the other in SV. How is this allowed?

[brazen ferry]

Gotta buy those tokens for mats to recraft, the Blizz grift

[vital sonnet]

holy shit you have no idea how much i miss vigilance

[normal mirage]

Just go hunter they went from one of the worst classes back to best ST DPS in the game kek

[verbal rivet]

Bc we are at 4M for 3 seconds

[lament hinge]

with 5 cds

[verbal rivet]

That’s all

[covert void]

the doom is definitely warranted. I've played warrior pretty much exclusively for 20 years (sad) and even I'm thinking of bouncing if that goes through. always just made do, whether we're bad or good or fine etc. but meh, cba.

[slow wadi]

I mean we can do that pack after pack

[crude ridge]

I got bodied by an enhance shammy with the same ilvl in a key

[tulip swallow]

they don't know how to design raid fights so all they're balancing around is 2 second aoe burst windows

very cool

[whole latch]

bring back nighthold fury

[slow wadi]

2 to 3 packs in a row

[normal mirage]

yeah this is just it man. We're an ever other pack enjoyer right now in keys. Even if we get odyns up every pack ret and frost dk will out do us

[verbal rivet]

That stupid trinket

[vital sonnet]

bring back antorus fury

[bitter palm]

based af spell

legit

[crude ridge]

just give us legion execute back

[vital sonnet]

^

[tulip swallow]

Legitimately if odyns fury is softcapped at 5 you may as well play onslaught

[bitter palm]

safeguard/vigilance/banners whatever

[vital sonnet]

not the neutered ashen juggernaut we have now

[bitter palm]

JUST SOMETHING UNIQUE

IDGAF ABOUT CR OR LUST

[slow wadi]

Thing is my guild is convinced fury war are top DPS because of a very small sample of mythic logs

[covert void]

at BEST we're on par with ret etc. and we take that as a huge win.

in the past

[brittle crow]

time to switch to enhancement

[livid vigil]

time for onslaught+spear builds

[crude ridge]

^

[vital sonnet]

banners were so fun

[brittle crow]

or windwalker so i can still tank

idk yet

fury is over party

[slow wadi]

Rets on silken court. Their cleave is insane

[winter shoal]

Same, and also most of them get gapped by fury on single target too bc skill diff

[vital sonnet]

i honestly miss our huge ST nukes too, like mop stormbolt and WoD siegebreaker

[verbal rivet]

Ret doesn’t even need to generate resources now….every button does something

[modest condor]

this boss is fair and balanced

[steep lynx]

im about to go play my ret pally fury feels like complete dog shit in m+

[vestal root]

you guys done dooming yet

[vital sonnet]

fury feels good

[verbal rivet]

You get invited????

[tulip swallow]

balanced around having a warlock in the party

[steep lynx]

gotta run my own keys LMAO

[young swan]

still has a ton of problems

[storm rune]

Party is just getting started

[whole latch]

wait for blizzard to give siege of boralus the fury treatment

[tulip swallow]

"lets make bosses with unhealable magic debuffs but your healer can only dispel one of them"

[crude ridge]

I miss being at the bottom or middle pack of the dps then 30% hits and I climb to the top of the meters.
Was good times.

[vestal root]

for sure

[leaden needle]

I'll be done dooming when my evoker is 80. Hopefully tomorrow ^^

[wheat estuary]

doom or nothing until were 2x dps of any other class like we should be

[unkempt galleon]

i’m tired boss

[vital sonnet]

im tired mr metzen

[plucky onyx]

Honestly yeah, if we were THE execute class i wouldnt complain as much.

[compact knot]

dude like prot execute is better than fury execute

[tulip swallow]

pre nerf fury was balanced and i'm tired of pretending it's not

[compact knot]

is so depressing

[lament hinge]

yeah was kinda mistake returning to this game lol

[tawdry bane]

ye has been LMAO

[vestal root]

wish i had such plans, aintnoway i can gear any class as fast as i wish

[verbal rivet]

I’m raiding in prot loot spec tonight, fuck it

[clear tendon]

I have friends that try to argue with me that we’re the best spec in the game and that’s why we deserve these nerfs lol

[crude ridge]

same

[compact knot]

did lfr nexus princess and was doing like 600k dps and i never play prot in raid, went up like 150k dps during execute phase

[unkempt galleon]

this might be it

[compact knot]

shit is crazy

[cursive sierra]

ret is so easy(and strong in pugs) that my noob friend out dps me every dungeon and we used to make fun of him all the time before that (he never played ret and decided to swap from boomie to ret 10days ago)

[leaden needle]

Yeah that too. If we would spike back big time during execute phases that would be fun. Like I don't gotta be the best but let us be good at SOMETHING

[compact knot]

hitting 3 million execute crits

[tulip swallow]

Aoe target cap shouldn't even exist, it's literally just there to fuck us over

[clever belfry]

psa: if you're below 626 you should quit immediately

[tulip swallow]

Game existed for like 15 years with everything being uncapped

[tawdry bane]

yeah but that was when mages were the best aoe, so that was fine by blizzard

[clever belfry]

u know how tclap and ww worked in classic right

[nocturne relic]

im 613 am i cooked

[clever belfry]

yes

[slow wadi]

Fury felt good when packs were huge and stuff is quite easy in the early days of TWW.

[clever belfry]

fury got bonked cause we did good in trivial content

unfortunate

[steep lynx]

wish i woulda played ret like i was planning at the start but ive played warrior since wotlk man fuck i dont even feel like playnig anymore

[crude ridge]

we looked to good in heroic and normal so we got the nerf hammer

[clever belfry]

go next major patch, maybe we win then

[tidal kindle]

Thank god

[leaden needle]

Yeah we were performing well when fights were only as long as our cooldowns on not real content and somehow we're gonna still pay for that a month and a half later???

[tidal kindle]

I was looking to quit already

But now i'll quit too

[tulip swallow]

I should have just went dk

[clever belfry]

got u buddy

[tawdry bane]

uh oh ret paladin sympathizer

[clear tendon]

We’re literally are bonked because pressing Odins on the adds during queen has skewed the data

[quiet geyser]

The saying for the last 4 expansions

[young swan]

dude

[steep lynx]

my friend wanted me to play shoulda listened to his ass lol

[clever belfry]

warr was good in amir
was good in sod
was good in eternal palace

[nocturne relic]

fury is the only spec in the game that feels fun to me

[hard widget]

@young swan guide us in these deperate times. What do we do? Where do we reroll to?

[tawdry bane]

real friends dont tell their friends to play ret paladin

[clever belfry]

and by good i mean SSS tier

[clever belfry]

sup kingus

[tulip swallow]

surely this will be the time they break the pattern and let dps warrior be anywhere near fomo

[vapid tiger]

/cast Avatar
/use Fleeting Tempered Potion
/use Tempered Potion

Would this work in a macro to use pot with avatar but use the cauldron ones first if I have them?

[quiet geyser]

Its been dumpster far more than its been good though

[young swan]

idk man

[young swan]

nah

[sinful spoke]

chat we go havoc dh or enhance shammy

[clever belfry]

except for nathria and dazar alor warrior was always playable to good

[vital sonnet]

chat we have to go outside

[chilly comet]

dunno about the cauldron thing but u should prolly have pots before avatar so the odyns fury cast by it is also buffed by ur pot

[kind sundial]

Are the nerfs bad enough to consider rerolling

[vital sonnet]

blizz recognized us as the best and is setting us free

[sinful spoke]

yes

[brittle crow]

are u ok with using vengeful retreat rotationally

[sinful spoke]

yes

[ornate gust]

Fury wasn’t good in SoD

[brittle crow]

play havoc

[young swan]

if ur an m+er just find a diff class

[sinful spoke]

i dont care

[leaden needle]

https://tenor.com/view/evoker-dragon-wow-world-of-warcraft-dragonflight-gif-27099275

[young swan]

otherwise its fine prob

[leaden needle]

Reject the path of melee, it had led us to ruin. Embrace your inner scalie

[clever belfry]

i said warrior, next

[sinful spoke]

NO IM NOT GOING EVOKER

[quiet geyser]

Arms was

[hard widget]

Im honestly considering to be honest

[tulip swallow]

it's a fucking rdiculous thing to say but it's somehow true

[gray void]

yk its bad when jeventes considering a reroll

[fickle cedar]

real ones stay fury

[covert void]

it might just be time tbh. like fuck it play a class they favour.

[young swan]

genuinely its not even necessarily about balance its just like

[kind sundial]

Aw man, I really like the unobtainable xmog I have on my warrior

[brittle crow]

jeventes is fury warriors strongest soldier

[unkempt galleon]

if you’re an m+er throw a shield on

[young swan]

ur always gonna be second string

[brittle crow]

it's genuinely over

[young swan]

and thats not fun

[tawdry bane]

people act like being playable is the same thing as being preferable, if you arent in a group or guild and youre a lower tier class the community simply will refuse to involve you whereas if you were a higher tier class you get that benefit of the doubt more, not to mention it sucks just getting nerfed over and over again

[crisp prism]

this is just bullying

[chilly comet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-0-5-ptr-datamined-class-and-spell-changes-hunter-updates-marksmanship-346889#p5968316 make your voices heard in a civil manner! this is an outrage and our voices should be heard!

[gray void]

its over.

[glass quarry]

guys this blue post is nerf or buff?

[clever belfry]

now it also is, however

[brittle crow]

make a favored by blizz tier list

[hard widget]

I mean im already getting gapped by people in aoe as is, target caps gonna make the gap even bigger

[tulip swallow]

surely they're just cooking up a full warrior rework to drop alongside it 🙂

[leaden needle]

Mage, pala, shaman.

[covert void]

very true. genuinely the case for many people.

[olive wraith]

How is feral doing in keys

[marble spruce]

Would we be less upset by the AOE nerfs if they were accompanied by ST buffs?

[tulip swallow]

no

[tawdry bane]

like i have an m+ group, that does not affect me, but it affects the vast majority of the playerbase

[vale haven]

Is l arms playable in m+?

[quiet geyser]

Actually yes

[hard widget]

Time to gear Jevemage 😎

[quiet geyser]

Substantial st buffs tho

[clear tendon]

Arms demolish is solid m+

[leaden needle]

Id like it if whatever they took out of our big cooldowns they gave us something back on our standard buttons

[gray void]

💀

[hard widget]

xD

[chilly comet]

this nerf is so bad critcake is making a video about it in a couple of hours

[covert void]

the average player doesn't have a m+ group and is not really that amazing at the game. Tier lists etc. unfortunately are what a lot of people go by when making groups.

[tulip swallow]

He should, we always roll over when it's nerf time

[marble spruce]

What kind of ST buffs would we like to see? Specifically?

[tulip swallow]

realistically any of our capstone level nodes are fair game

[kind sundial]

I wanna be top dps in ST and AOE obviously

[fickle cedar]

data is skewed because we're one of the only classes with insane insta aoe burst + everything lines up in raid, our ST is garbage tier and we barely have any good sustained aoe damage

[quiet geyser]

Rotational abilities to not hit like wet noodles outside of cds

[verbal rivet]

Rampage, Raging Blow, execute, any of the above?

[olive wraith]

100% damage increase to onslaught

[tulip swallow]

UF, dancing blades, tenderize

[tepid wolf]

are you kidding ?

[tawdry bane]

rampage doesnt do enough damage, we are prioritizing a generator over a spender even when capped lmao

[leaden needle]

I mean even without tier lists consider what a mage, evoker, or shaman bring, to the group in the form of just lust alone. Consider lock QoL, consider paladin reading or maybe even lay on hand someone on the side plus so many oh shit buttons.

[clever belfry]

find mage

[stuck bison]

They have bucthered arms and they are massacering fury now

[verbal rivet]

Dead serious. Try and pug a key now.

[clever belfry]

if u wanna m+

[covert void]

you'd think the people who designed the raid, and have all the data from all forms of content would be the best people to decide on appropriate balancing.

[fiery storm]

More fucking nerfs? Blizzard is such dogshit

[tawdry bane]

well exactly, warriors bring damage and some stops and thats p much it

and they arent even like good stops rly

[young swan]

nah

[tulip swallow]

We need some way to visualize m+ damage so people can look at funny chart and see what's actually going on

[clever belfry]

bring damage? Mhmm not sure about that one chief

[gray void]

kappachungus

[tawdry bane]

you know what i mean smartass mf

[gray void]

compare our dmg to assa rogue

[kind sundial]

Someone post the chart again for the next patch I want to see something

[gray void]

or frostdk

[young swan]

i genuinely think this change is that bad

[leaden needle]

If warr's don't have pretty competitive damage we literally are a dead party member in a key

[gray void]

[thick fossil]

Make execute hit like a fucking mac truck again. No bullshit, no sugar coating. Make that shit the OG kill a target button again. Without any regard for Sudden death procs or abilities that buff Execute. Just make Execute massive.

[clever belfry]

🇩🇪

[sinful spoke]

Unorincally just reroll dh or smth

[keen vigil]

Did we really get another 3% aura nerf?

[leaden needle]

When you could have our dmg plus a million other conveniences with nearly any other class

[sinful spoke]

Our class is fucking shit

[tawdry bane]

rip, my condolences

[young swan]

based as usual

[tulip swallow]

just another one on the pile of evidence that nobody doing balancing actually plays the class

[clever belfry]

p good country to be in akl things considered

[hard widget]

No we're getting target cap on roar and odyns 8 -> 5

[covert void]

people who have been doing keys around the 10 mark, maybe higher, they know exactly why this is bullshit. Not even close to been an understanding nerf to us. it's just kicking us when we're down after two weeks of nerfs already.

[quiet geyser]

I actually dont even mind the 8-5 IF we were kings in 4-5 target cleave.. but we're not even that either lol

[clever belfry]

does anyone not? maybe magicians

[hazy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tinder-my5n5-kermit-gif-24133413

[young swan]

smaller* target cap

[trail tendon]

so, we're getting nerfed again

[dusty cove]

Wowhead bis list has claymore with vers mastery, is that just a visual or is that actually bis?

[hard widget]

Yeah i figured i'd specify that

[verbal rivet]

Do what you want bud, just turn details off

[sinful spoke]

Chat we didnt get nerfed we got taken to the back room and shot on the back of the head

[young swan]

if they made this change and let unhinged cleave again in the same breath i wouldnt be throwing shit about it

[sinful spoke]

Our class is literally dead now

[tulip swallow]

TRUE

[tulip vortex]

time to reroll arms

[tulip swallow]

that interaction was so good they should have kept it

[sinful spoke]

Arms got hit too

[tidal kindle]

Reroll off war*

[clever belfry]

no :)

[fiery storm]

Was fun boys ... officially unsubbing ...... and im someone telling ppl to shuttup last round of nerfs. Blizzard sucks ass.

[tulip vortex]

time to reroll a new game

[quiet geyser]

Or gave us fan of long swords

[hard widget]

Arms is too op 🤡

[verbal rivet]

Prot Retirement home is the best option

[clever belfry]

crop my king

[verbal rivet]

And it’s not good

[sinful spoke]

🤡

[tulip swallow]

Arms and thane got hit in the crossfire of the nerfs too, it's tragic

[unkempt galleon]

welp what are we rollin boys

[tepid wolf]

ffs i spent so much time and golds on this char, juste gonna leave the game after the nerf, when is it going live ?

[clever belfry]

arms is op in making me wanna quit
the current iteration is turbo F

[runic quail]

it was a good run being A tier boys. time to enjoy the D tier for a bit

[sinful spoke]

Enhance or havoc

[native wadi]

I think we should start the DOOM train

[lavish lily]

aoe was all i fucking had, where's my single target buffs 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[sinful spoke]

A tier?

[dense elbow]

Friendly reminder; if you dont take this to the forums. you are not doing anything but blowing air

[sinful spoke]

When ? 3 weeks ago maybe

[tawdry bane]

no one cares

[fickle cedar]

Like if they are trying to make thane the m+ spec then buff that shit

[covert void]

Seriously. there's like less than 10 comments on the forums rn.

pissed off? go post there.

[tawdry bane]

forums are useless anyway

[compact knot]

archon is decent

[quiet geyser]

Thats a stretch

[clever belfry]

still was good on a good chunk of fights due to timers, kinda bonked in some of them now :)

[tidal heron]

So, I'll now do more dmg as my thane prot spec? Maybe allow us to disable tank threat gen, and we can join as dps on that spec?

[verbal rivet]

Complaining in Discord > Average Mage Player in forums. Mages would have a hate website by now.

[lavish lily]

reroll, you arent toxic enough to play warrior

[shrewd pebble]

eeey boys dont be a metadogs be a real fury and handle against nerf we are the real warriors come ooon REAL WARRIORS

[tawdry bane]

forums are there to make it seem like you have input, you simply do not

[clever belfry]

can't post on NA with an EU acc 👍

[tawdry bane]

blizzard does not care

[runic quail]

tbf even after nerfs it was pretty good. but first warcraftlogs nerfed all warriors on rashanan, and then this. time to reroll DH and rejoice with blizzarda love

[covert void]

and dooming here is even less relevant.

tbf

[ornate gust]

I did unsubscribe. I don’t feel spending time and effort to gear the character then play it in a such stat is enjoyable

[tawdry bane]

but im having fun so who cares

😁

[forest owl]

i'll be doing the same im watching how this plays out, if blizzard double down im out. tired of the weird uncalled for changes and others that DO need nerfed remain untouched.

[stuck bison]

Ahh you again. Stop it. I saw you defending recent fury nerfs while you logged in your dk. Stop it get some help

[tulip vortex]

dont worry guys the class whos whole fantasy is relentless damage doesnt need utility OR damage

[tawdry bane]

[verbal rivet]

Rallying Cry guys. Trust

[sinful spoke]

We get nerfed for doing alot of cleave dmg but then theres frost dk that cleaves way more than fury with breath 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[dense elbow]

Huh?

[runic quail]

[sinful spoke]

This goy nerfed already

[compact knot]

the only relentless damage being done is to our fucking specs balance

[kind sundial]

The class fantasy is seeing the declined message on groups listings

[hard widget]

We're unironically gettin the SP treatment, difference is we werent OP, and we were only good for a week instead of an entire xpac 😂

[dense elbow]

I been called out for many things - but for going DK is new

[sullen dove]

can they fuck off

[verbal rivet]

I know, but trust. Mages totally don’t have mass 30% magic DR.

[runic quail]

and shamans are still getting buffed is insane 😂

[sinful spoke]

I LOVE WARRIOR

[devout hollow]

guys, i found the perfect meme for warriors

[leaden needle]

https://tenor.com/view/evoker-dragon-wow-world-of-warcraft-dragonflight-gif-27099275

[tawdry bane]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[fickle cedar]

Yeah thats what botters me, other op specs are dodging all nerfs for some reason

[tacit hawk]

Which do you prioritize crushing blow or bloodbath if you went RA?

[olive wraith]

Cb

[unkempt galleon]

if enhance had half as many buttons as it did it’d be fun

[covert void]

we're genuinely like only upper a tier AT BEST in m+ ever. mostly "fine". The way they've nerfed us is like groups are smashing max keys with 3 fury warriors per group.

[tawdry bane]

rerolling class

[sinful spoke]

You prioritize leveling a new class

[hardy shuttle]

Obliterate and frost strike

[sinful spoke]

Delete ur wRiror

Go next

[hard widget]

I dont believe we're A+ atm

[tacit hawk]

They nerfing us like that?

[verbal rivet]

This is peak ff15 moment

[sullen dove]

nerfing our aoe and not touching fdk is fucking abysmal

[lament hinge]

more like B tier

[covert void]

I mean generally, like at our best were never broken. Just upper a tier.

[compact knot]

prioritize rerolling to fire mage

[nocturne tiger]

It's time to roll evoker and be a bit better at ST boys

[sullen dove]

they're just better on every fight fury is "good on"

[steep lynx]

look dont owrry guys we will get a 2% buff in a week

[cursive sierra]

DAYM

[keen forum]

blizz doesn't like warrior being good. they are cognitively deficient.

[compact knot]

its actually so fucking funny, fire mage is the top spec in raid now and is getting MORE buffs for the anniversary

[runic quail]

OF damage reduce 15% into OF dealing reduced damage past 5. its joever

[verbal rivet]

Let’s make Arch put another slow mode on

[tulip swallow]

We should go back to meta

[runic quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1288641835597697047/methode_times_prod_web_bin_5eddc934-1162-11ec-86b8-9dcf48a101ba2.jpg?ex=66f5ecbb&is=66f49b3b&hm=d667fd93d0046eb20b3d3b87e61b113fbd26cc8d69b19416c35bb9d0f18b1596&

[tulip swallow]

[keen forum]

[leaden needle]

Also they're pre-nerfing me by taking all the fun out of being a dracthyr with their racial nerfs. But hey at least that saves me the money since I won't need to change my warr if I'm not playing it xD

[clever belfry]

we will be so barack in 11.2 due to S word

[verbal rivet]

Based

[dusk knot]

I mean tbh fury was overtuned at rank 1 damage on the chart blizzard posted so ... (for raid at least)

[compact knot]

im glad i leveled my mage unironically

[lavish lily]

i think this channel should be limited to 5 messages a minute. After all, i can only hit 5 things at a time

[compact knot]

90% of it is add damage

[clear tendon]

It’s literally only because of all the stupid add phases in raid…that’s what makes me irritated

[compact knot]

on adds that dont fucking matter

LOL

[tawdry bane]

so true bestie

[fickle cedar]

+2

[verbal rivet]

So true

[kind sundial]

+2

[runic quail]

and warcraftlogs already removed add damage 😂

[crude gate]

What should i reroll to for m+ ??

[runic quail]

DH

[tulip swallow]

for real man, half of them don't fucking do anything but hit the tank a little bit

[dusk knot]

they removed add damage so its just not true

[tulip swallow]

it's literally only broodtwister

[shrewd pebble]

why u guys need to reroll when nerf come ?

[cursive sierra]

even warcraftlogs removed damage to adds from contributing in logs

[shrewd pebble]

what kind of pussy are u

[leaden needle]

Fury seemed overturned on heroic content because fights were short and had no mechanics LOL

[shrewd pebble]

hairy ?

[vital sonnet]

unironically bring back gladiator stance

[verbal rivet]

Bc we want to play the game.

[leaden needle]

Like irrelevant week got us canceled

[sinful spoke]

? LOL

[unkempt galleon]

bc they keep coming

[tawdry bane]

everything you read is to be taken literally at all times

[fickle cedar]

they should have done that on raid release

[shrewd pebble]

be a player

[sinful spoke]

Nah can inflame this guy

[quiet geyser]

That doesnt make fury op, thats a raid design issue with them having more than half the raid have AoE parts that line up perfectly with your burst AoE.

[sinful spoke]

I wanna be toxic rn

[fickle cedar]

maybe we wouldnt get hit

[umbral dust]

It’s over, fury is dead. Crit ended stream. It’s over

[shrewd pebble]

naa

[buoyant salmon]

who even are all of you

[shrewd pebble]

still can do dmg

[dusk knot]

blaming the raid for the class being overtuned now ?

[buoyant salmon]

are you all rerollers

[hard widget]

Bottom dmg is still dmg 🤡

[verbal rivet]

And AFK in Dornogal for M+ groups that never happen. Worth $15 a month tbh.

[shrewd pebble]

reroll is being loser

[compact knot]

you are stupid

actually

its hilarious

[tawdry bane]

unironically the only class i ever want to play is warrior

[sinful spoke]

Are u? Ive never seen u here

[quiet geyser]

Dude we do less boss damage than Aug. Lol how in the world is that overtuned?

[buoyant salmon]

least obvious bait

wasnt referring you to little man

[forest owl]

you. are. clueless.

[hard widget]

U havent seen him cuz he doesnt read tooltips

[compact knot]

if the class was overtuned it would doing a crazy amount of damage in m+ and being fucking bosses in raid, it does neither

[shrewd pebble]

so what u rerol the meta class and after that class nerf u again reroll

be a man

[runic quail]

it's ok guys. we're still the most tanky dps. we'll top the meters if all other dps are dead

[fickle cedar]

sharpen your bread sticks

[tawdry bane]

dont call me little man im slightly above average size at worst

[young swan]

just straight up arent overtuned

[sinful spoke]

Makes sense

[buoyant salmon]

critcake topping meters all of sikran prog

fury bad tho

[clever mural]

Hope they keep nerfing fury. I wanna be the only one left by 2025.

[hard widget]

That says more about the team than him

[sinful spoke]

^

[covert void]

design entire raid around fury. oh, fury is good? gut entire spec in all forms of content. there we go! FIXED.

[sullen dove]

rest of his guild sucks wcyd

[buoyant salmon]

does it

he was doing 1.2n

[clever belfry]

thinking aug logs are real lmao

[buoyant salmon]

1.2m

[shrewd pebble]

im there too brother

[buoyant salmon]

thats good damage

[fast mural]

They way bosses are designed litteraly made fury good cause almost every fuckng boss has adds to pad on

[kind sundial]

Fury doing worse than rogues is such a knife twist

[hard widget]

Look at the logs

[tawdry bane]

and the adds timed with our cd windows lmao

[sinful spoke]

If theres classes losing in st to fury which is the lowest st spec in the game rn then u need to swap ur other raiders

[hard widget]

Augmented 1.2m dps zZzZ

[buoyant salmon]

im driving too much work

[hard widget]

He did 1m

[wheat estuary]

my favorite thing in all this is thane is just blatantly getting fucked by it

[sullen dove]

bro beefing on disc in the car

[wheat estuary]

down further into the grave

[sullen dove]

thats safe

[tepid wolf]

What are the changes except the capping from 8 to 5 ? Is there even more than that ??

[buoyant salmon]

wait theres an aug in his raid

[leaden needle]

I'm gonna keep my warr alive to do weird prot pvp but that's it I think

[buoyant salmon]

why do bad guilds play aug

lmao

unlucky

[compact knot]

crit only did 1m dps

not 1.2

[sinful spoke]

Drive safe Dont crash 🙏🏽

[sinful spoke]

Get off discord

[untold yacht]

Is the cap to 5 targets live?

[buoyant salmon]

maybe fury is shit

[clever belfry]

theyre bad for a reason

[hard widget]

Idk what meters ur watching Choco

[tawdry bane]

drive unsafe and crash 🙏

[buoyant salmon]

red light

[brittle glen]

I wonder why they keep nerfing warrior, we were strong in week 1 of the raid, but I feel like we have fell off pretty hard vs other classes getting 4pc

[edgy widget]

Yeah me too, Fury must be great at ST huh?

[verbal rivet]

Oh no

He’s here

[sullen dove]

fury very very strong st spec

yes

[hard widget]

Great middle of the pack 94 parse u got there archi!

[kind sundial]

That's depressing

[tawdry bane]

gotta love thje 44 parse bm being right below you

[edgy widget]

Yeah turns out Fury ST is great when you double everyone else's parse

[hard widget]

U almost beat the 50 parsing mage!

[eager thorn]

look at the ilvls too

like 5ilvls above the ppl above u kekw

[sullen dove]

good thing they're not touching fury's immensely powerful st damage

[tulip vortex]

anyone else thinking of rerolling pres evoker rn

[compact knot]

44 BM parse = 94 Fury parse

fucking insane

[tulip vortex]

seeing as they're untouchable

[sullen dove]

and instead ruining the only other thing they're good at

[buoyant salmon]

yeah furry looking good

fury

[tepid wolf]

What are the changes except the capping from 8 to 5 ? Is there even more than that ??

[kind sundial]

Just gotta play your rotation perfectly to be on par with button clickers doing their rotation guys it's simple

[sinful spoke]

The 52 bm parse being top dps

Mhmmm

[covert void]

that's actually insane.

[compact knot]

type shit

[edgy widget]

Power Infusion hunters lul

[leaden needle]

Yeah i pain to raid devastation and m+ preservation.

[shrewd pebble]

i suggest the ban rerollers traitors

[south kayak]

It’s clear blizzard balance team are fucking morons

[hard widget]

Boys its fine, WCL removed the pad from Rashanan, we'll be bottom overall soon enough

[tawdry bane]

incredible

[south kayak]

Quitting warrior

[verbal rivet]

Boutta get rolled by a green Survival hunter parse taking rips on an open mic

[cursive sierra]

HOLY

[clever belfry]

a humanoid aug, no way

[sullen dove]

99 parsing aug those are a thing

wtf

[brittle crow]

pick my evacuation class

ww, enh, or dh

[sullen dove]

this isnt season 2 df

[fickle cedar]

we're already paste on rash after the change lol

[edgy widget]

seen the updated stats? we already are lol

[clever belfry]

sounds like a quit or ww

[hard widget]

HHAHAHAHAHA

[hardy shuttle]

Same

[edgy widget]

amazing how fury went from top to bottom in a day

[south kayak]

I’m definitely quitting warrior

Fuck this

[hard widget]

Thats actually so depressing xDDD

[south kayak]

Blizzard would rather you not play warrior

[fast mural]

Rahsanan pad was too strong

[south kayak]

Guys

Just stop it

[brittle glen]

So what I'm understanding here, fury is very mid. Requiring almost rotational perfection to keep up with a mage or hunter basically doing the most average possible?

[hard widget]

Great change from WCL there

[sullen dove]

if you ever thought any season was a fury season, just know it will always turn into an arms season

[vale dove]

are we getting another 3% aura nerf and aoe from 8 to 5 target nerf?

[south kayak]

Don’t play this class

[sullen dove]

law of the jungle regarding this class

[tawdry bane]

yeah basically

[sinful spoke]

Can we actually complain as a community in the forums so they can at least not ignore us

[tulip swallow]

heroiuc parses still look fine 🤡

[sullen dove]

any time fury is good (it wont be a month later)

[compact knot]

my 99 rashanan parse is now a 69 blue parse because they removed the adds on rashanan

[edgy widget]

read #updates-midnight

[compact knot]

are you fucking serious

[clever belfry]

me when i lose a use of ST cds on rash to help my raid succeed (it ruined my parse)

[tawdry bane]

its the forums, you will be ignored

[bitter palm]

i love when the mages can keep up with arms on a boss with 9 year long execute phase

[clever belfry]

also a dented change imma b real

[south kayak]

Why are the balance teams stupid

[vale dove]

man

[wheat estuary]

had 400k dps above next one on rash in my guild, ended up with blue parse lmao

[south kayak]

Moronic decisions

[clever belfry]

but endless spam parasite logs on ovinax are still fine ig!

[dense elbow]

Even so, it is the best we can do to make a stirr that might catch the eye of someone that cares about 'outcry'.

[hard widget]

@edgy widget What will you reroll to, Im looking at the options

[vale dove]

Wheres the Ret Paladin and Frost DK Nerfs

[south kayak]

Pleaser someone tell the devs they are stupid

[runic quail]

i'm cooking a new build for M+.

remove bladestorm for ravager, press esc>logout and play something else.

how does that sound?

[fast mural]

What was the reason to remove rashanan pad ?

[covert void]

hundreds of posts here in like 10 minutes forums are dead af. Just how it is. we know they'll just ignore.

[sinful spoke]

Theyre not warriors

[edgy widget]

cause Warlocks couldn't hit adds to pad their rank vs people who just ST the boss

[fast mural]

Its not like tindrall dragonbombs

[tulip swallow]

the adds are pissers that die instantly and don't do anything

[brittle glen]

This is what I'm wondering, we have a ret that just does insane damage for their 4 button rotation

[south kayak]

There’s literally no reason to play warrior

[sullen dove]

except wipe your raid on mythic

[compact knot]

i can compete with the people in this raid right!?!?!?!?! https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FQyqLbCzKjgd3HDm#fight=94&type=damage-done

[south kayak]

Just switch

[clever belfry]

bro has not seen them live

[bitter palm]

for sure they dont oneshot the tank

[south kayak]

Delete your character

[bitter palm]

xdddd

[sinful spoke]

Theyre part of the fight are u dense

[clever belfry]

if they dont instantly die, you lose people

[vale dove]

Rets damage is insane atm

[clever belfry]

Fast

[crude gate]

Should I go frost mage or ret for keys?

[south kayak]

I’m deleting my gear

[tawdry bane]

blizzard when upfront damage happens upfront 🤯

[dense elbow]

Send your forum post, if we get enough traction we go frontpage. You go from a few views to thousands - that is thousands of core WoW player interactions.

[fast mural]

NGL I though maybe there was a good reason

[bitter palm]

no there isnt

[marble spruce]

make a post on reddit too

[brittle glen]

Don't worry guys, they can't bench us because battle shout is buffing all the phys dpsers that are actually doing damage

[steel shard]

i went from 0p to 4p today and i gained 30k dps

[compact knot]

what if they removed the initial burst from our troar and odyns and put them into the bleed instead, thoughts?

[clever belfry]

no, these are IMPORTANT

[tawdry bane]

surely reddit and the forums will help surely those places matter

[fast mural]

Maybe we should remove add DMG from all fights in existence and make boss DMG the new default

[verbal rivet]

Damage over 3 Seconds? Bad. Same damage over 7 seconds? Totally fine.

[forest owl]

yup 4p is trash, i had to resimm it again when i got it thinking it was bugged, nope. just trash.

[clever belfry]

4x dmg over 20s? Also cool and good

[steel shard]

i know it is

throwback to the 1st tier in DF

what a joke

[runic quail]

prot warrior ez

[south kayak]

I’m actually not going to play warrior anymore

It was fun

Not really

[eager thorn]

im going to miss you box

[open prairie]

they should have just

[compact knot]

atleast prot warrior is fun and in a good spot

[covert void]

frost dk looks fun

[open prairie]

taken rash off allstars

if it was an issue

[south kayak]

Already have a fdk alt

[fickle cedar]

oh come on we'll get an ST buff guys

[tulip swallow]

it's crazy how their idea of warrior balance is dumpster single target with mediocre aoe

[exotic glacier]

g'bye 😦
Farewell

[south kayak]

They’re stupid

Haven’t you realized this by now

Like brain dead

Idiots

[buoyant salmon]

you guys complain so fucking much

god damn

[marble spruce]

i have a feeling we’ll see ST buffs

[covert void]

we have, we usually just suck it up, say we're fine and zug zug anyways.

[runic quail]

5 minutes reminder warrior is already in shambles, parsing worse than aug on mythic rash. GGs

[tawdry bane]

I LOVE BEING ANGRY

WOOOOOOOOOOO

[south kayak]

This ain’t gonna work anymore

[hard widget]

N0ormally you complain just as much

[buoyant salmon]

about what

[south kayak]

Fuck them

[lavish lily]

OUR CLASS FUNCTIONS ON RAGE YOU FUCKING NORMIE

[vale dove]

Love how they base there nerfs off heroic kills 😂

[open prairie]

you mean fury

[brittle crow]

maintaining enrage buff

[clever belfry]

i will 7

[open prairie]

arms is literally on top

[clever belfry]

cya

[long stone]

@runic quail thats even without the nerf stuff what comes right xD

[bitter palm]

warlocks mad cause they cant pad

[runic quail]

yes, fury is the only spec that matters.

[tawdry bane]

guys dont all gang up on him at once he can only fight 5 of you at a time now

[covert void]

lol

[vale haven]

On delve content?

[untold yacht]

Is 5 target cap live?

[cursive sierra]

good one ps : im depressed

[tulip swallow]

not yet but it will be 🙃

[runic quail]

spot on. ST is bad. they're gutting aoe.

[south kayak]

What class do I go to

[open prairie]

i mean the st ranking had arms on top

[hard widget]

Imagine how fast u'd get benched on Broodtwister if the changes were already live 💀

[queen narwhal]

It won't make any difference because add damage is removed on that boss

[clear tendon]

Did I read the notes right that’s we’re getting 3% aura buff in addition to the aoe cap?

[quiet geyser]

Lmao, this was good

[sullen dove]

just bring 6 frost dks

they arent capped its fine

[queen narwhal]

That's why we look so terribad

[sullen dove]

already better than warr on that fight

[buoyant salmon]

can play arms on that fight i think

[sullen dove]

now even more so

[lavish lily]

if only raging blow generated as much rage as a blizzard forum post

[buoyant salmon]

have roar and bladestorm every egg

[south kayak]

If I don’t see a 20% dps delete on the best classes I’m not touching warrior

[buoyant salmon]

not as much damage as fury but not worthless

[steel shard]

ok, now look at the boss damage one

[fossil oasis]

🦀 warrior dead

[long stone]

i think i get kickt from my m+ group now 😭 they want a Frost DK

[open prairie]

like the log change doesnt matter

[runic quail]

they already removed add damage from rashanan. this is boss damage

[fossil oasis]

thank god i made a dk

[fiery storm]

Are these live nerfs or not until november?

[open prairie]

the nerf does

[sullen dove]

o sick image

love the 90% black space

[buoyant salmon]

what a link

[dire vigil]

Fury warrior, built to lay waste to battlefields of enemies, can only hit 5 targets because they can’t count any higher

[nimble ermine]

i can almost read this i think

[south kayak]

I’m gonna delete my gear

[steel shard]

HAHAHAHAH

[south kayak]

New video

[tawdry bane]

i really like that image can i save it?

[fiery storm]

If u jackasses click the image u can read it u betas

[steel shard]

i know its not enough data and there not every fight is in there

but its funny

[fossil oasis]

it’s mythic

[south kayak]

This is so fucked

[fervent yoke]

Arms time ?

[steel shard]

its still funny

[runic quail]

what is this

[steel shard]

to look at

[south kayak]

So helpless against shitty brain dead decisions

[buoyant salmon]

[hard widget]

xD

[fringe ice]

lmaoo

[nimble ermine]

guys what does it say

[south kayak]

Everyone’s losing it

[forest owl]

tiny picture infinity letsgoo

[fast mural]

Zooming in doesn't work its too pixelated
What do I do

[runic quail]

can anyone read it?

[verbal rivet]

It almost says buy a DK boost

[open prairie]

On the real though, the rash change was stupid

[young swan]

chill out on the image spam please

[open prairie]

having bad st and good aoe is fine

[runic quail]

ah. thought it was enh shaman. ty for clearing

[proper wigeon]

alright which one of you fucked the wife of the blizzard dev who balances classes

own up

[fickle cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/yamcha-yamcha-death-pose-yamcha-dead-yamcha-on-the-ground-yamcha-sleeping-gif-15816799

[open prairie]

especially when your other dps spec has good st

[tawdry bane]

yes sir thank you sir glory to skyhold

[long stone]

i should have stick with shamen 😄 but no we need a 5% buff in raid ...:D

[young swan]

🫡

[verbal rivet]

Bröther. We don’t talk to women

[hard widget]

Xan ur making it so tempting to screenshot u

[fringe ice]

I imagine the new BRD raid gonna have all bosses with adds spawn cd 1.30 or 45 s

[clever belfry]

balls emoji

[dark heron]

Is there actually a warrior dev… doesnt feel like it

[proper wigeon]

alright who fucked the man that looks like a woman

[fiery storm]

Ight do the aoe nerfs come in during november or r they live does anyone know

[fossil oasis]

guys i think

[long stone]

then we get nerf again lul

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[fossil oasis]

ehen warrior is strong they get more reports for racism thats why they nerf us

[hard widget]

Its Xan, u should tag him with all ur concerns

[sullen dove]

true

(?)

[open prairie]

although not sure where this “warrior st” narrative is from

when arms st is showing as good

in the same image

[pulsar quest]

Great now my DKs and rets will get all the fancy gear

[tawdry bane]

sir this is the fury chat

[proper wigeon]

sir what channel are u in

[verbal rivet]

Not a real spec, back to dooming

[open prairie]

if you say warrior it means the class

[south kayak]

Time to reroll

[open prairie]

not spec

[fossil oasis]

it’s my theory

they want to remove testosterone from the game and make everyone neutered and not manly

[steel shard]

yea i mean you simply swap to arms for ST fights yea

[tawdry bane]

i said fury

[runic quail]

the only warrior in this channel is fury

[crude gate]

is it time to roll arms boys

[dark heron]

I smell a trap here

[proper wigeon]

arms bis pvp and pve, fury bis nothing

makes sense

[steel shard]

but for like m+ as an example where there is a mix

[fossil oasis]

then swap to dk for the aoe ones

and m+

[sullen dove]

thats just a theory
a game theory

[fiery storm]

Do any of u muppets know if the nerfs are live or not even coming till november ??????

[sullen dove]

muppets

💀

[crude gate]

live

[tawdry bane]

"muppets" UHOH

[south kayak]

LMAO

[tawdry bane]

BRIT ALERT

[proper wigeon]

theyre right meow

[dire vigil]

🫗

[clever belfry]

or for like
6/8 of the raid

[steel shard]

oh its on the way

[echo stump]

Next bet : dk frost , sp , ele sham , mage arc/frost ? what should i lvl

[south kayak]

The devs are the muppets

[pulsar quest]

I just pushed them live

[steel shard]

615 ilvl atm

[long stone]

fury need 2 f..ing 2hand weapons and now you can give him 2 weet noodles makes no difrence

[open prairie]

you play melee what m+

[fiery storm]

Ight my guild is telling me theyre not coming till november

[tawdry bane]

when british people say muppet it feels like a slur

[winter shoal]

Fdk

[dire vigil]

If they come back with a 10% buff to bloodthirst, raging blow, and rampage, how do we feel?

[rocky wharf]

so they nerfed odyn fury and cap aoe wtf

[fossil oasis]

got 610 today on mine 😎

[sullen dove]

4/8th now ackshually ☝️ 🤓 rashanan st fight and silken court they played arms

[pulsar quest]

Your guild is wrong I own blizzard and I just pushed the nerfs

[south kayak]

Needs at least 30% buff

[proper wigeon]

thats all so far...

[steel shard]

i would find that hilarious ngl

[verbal rivet]

We now slightly less under Aug Evoker

[lavish lily]

i cant believe the warrior class dev quit and the shaman one took over

[eager thorn]

How often do we get catalyst charges?

[tawdry bane]

i also have delusions of grandeur

[south kayak]

And ww cleaves to 8 targets

[covert void]

but why would we put more time into a spec that's been utterly gutted November or now.

[open prairie]

do people actually think

[nimble ermine]

im so glad i got 4p today, i am sure this will help me counter the nerfs

[winter shoal]

I can't unshit my pants man idk what you want me to do

[hard widget]

Can we just collectively reroll and pretend this was the mage discord all along?

[open prairie]

m+ is real game mode

[lament hinge]

more like 20% and buff meat cleaver to 75%

[open prairie]

after aug came out

[tawdry bane]

thats bait

[fossil oasis]

bruh check ur dmg breakdown in raid

[south kayak]

Real

[crisp prism]

nah i'm unsubbing instead

[oak garden]

Idk dude, i need to play perfekt Rotation to Hit near 2m dps in NKW +10 with Aug. Meanwhile my Arcane mate fuck up his Rotation and beat me abou 2k ....

If they nerf us even more im out for TWW. I hate this game sometimes.

[verbal rivet]

Never seen it

[clever belfry]

rash is not st

[pulsar quest]

Let’s all play something cool and edgy like rogues

[tidal kindle]

@young swan read wcl disc

Day 2

[eager thorn]

It is on logs

[fervent yoke]

Dude idk if I have the energy to reroll

[young swan]

yeah

[sullen dove]

wcl devs disagree

[young swan]

i rejoined

[clever belfry]

msg link

[winter shoal]

Linkers?

[runic quail]

fury is in such a bad spot, that we can roll 2x1h wep and our ranking between other dps wont be affected.

[brittle glen]

I've made my post on the forums scratching my head at the changes. Doubt anything will change, warrior will probably catch more nerfs.

[hard widget]

LETS GO

[fossil oasis]

kihra is an idiot

[steel shard]

noticed something was of on the 4th boss today

hehe

[fossil oasis]

not the first time

[tidal kindle]

I'll screenie

[dire vigil]

Ok, if they buff every rotational ability 20% that would be fine. More throughput and ST

[winter shoal]

HOLY ultrawide

[open prairie]

its a game mode to gear at best

taking m+ serious is bad for your mental health

[dire vigil]

Idk why they didn’t see this coming with longer fights AND the fact that we have a bottom % tier set

[fickle cedar]

i've seen you fight the good fight there keep it up

[long stone]

all the work to get shattert

[young swan]

not kihra this time

[fossil oasis]

thank god i hadn’t done 9s yet

HAHAH

[wintry tulip]

xan is an idiot

[covert void]

always seen raiding as just a place to get gear for m+ personally.

[proper wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ko9TpduOhE

[open prairie]

doesnt kihra only play furry edating simulator

[fossil oasis]

i got banned off of everything wcl for disagreeing with kihra in classic about some speedrun thing they did

[young swan]

shocker

[fossil oasis]

pretty sure he roleplays as a woman irl too

[brittle glen]

I bet you feel like you are blasting though? Until you see you are doing 950k vs the ret doing 1.2mil

[hard widget]

Speedrun to making warrior bottom log? 🤡

[winter shoal]

Kihra decided to use graphql for the wcl api and they've been dead to me ever since

[open prairie]

ok tbh

the log change doesnt matter

the random OF softcap to 5

[fossil oasis]

no we had gotten NA #1 naxx and he wanted to invalidate our run for some bullshit

[open prairie]

is wtf

[fossil oasis]

like he decided oh now we change this and retroactively invalidate

[hard widget]

Did u pad on adds?

[fossil oasis]

HAHA

[pulsar quest]

I guess I’ll just st every boss and let my frost dk and shaman kill adds

[steel shard]

[fossil oasis]

brother there were 25+ warriors in that raid

[tulip swallow]

just play arms I guess, yeah

[bitter palm]

we were too strong in m+

[leaden needle]

What adds can you even pad on like that? I can only think of like Gothik maybe?

[tulip swallow]

[hard widget]

Run got invalidated because it was warriors, warriors pad. = invalidated run

[brittle glen]

Yup, basically just play arms for raid, because the adds will be dead after you cast odyns fury

[fossil oasis]

i did couple keys on my DK i can just facesmash keyboard and do more dps at 6 ilvl lower

[sinful spoke]

they dont invalidate it if its a lock that does it though :3

[long stone]

i do 1.5m over all after m+9/10 but that was before the 8 to 5 target change, feels like we get a big execute from blizz so we can see frost dk and the other speks rise

[open prairie]

m+ melee

[nimble ermine]

as if fdk needed to fucking rise any higher

[open prairie]

great meme

[tawdry bane]

so is taking raid seriously 💀 or taking wow seriously in general

[pulsar quest]

Ur mom

[tulip swallow]

Raid balance is pointless but it's all blizzard cares about

[covert void]

we could always just like.. go outside instead? maybe hit the gym.. make a few friends?

[tulip vortex]

dont worry guys when we get our 4pc we'll be fine haha

[tulip swallow]

they literally put in a scaling buff that's going to make it giga cleared for everyone

[dark heron]

Fdk need to rise… Play 10 instead of 4 or 5 on broodtwister

[hard widget]

Good point in the WCL channel @young swan

[young swan]

thank u

[fervent yoke]

Anyone staying fury?

[hard widget]

Couldnt aree more

[bitter palm]

send screenshot

[fossil oasis]

but hey you can exploit broken mage shit and never get anything done 📶

[hard widget]

Look at it urself xd

[forest owl]

[bitter palm]

cant

[fiery storm]

Any of u fellow muppet doomers got a link to the live nerf update the only blue post im seeing is a ptr nerf tht isnt coming out until november .......

[normal yoke]

Boys, is Dungeon Slice worth using for simming M+? Or are we still using 5-target, 5-min Patchwerk?

[bitter palm]

wait i can

new disc account

[wispy bridge]

I want to but its getting harder to justify each day tbh

[tulip swallow]

if fire mage is actually ok now I might play that

[long stone]

but why is blizz not watching the single target, than the aoe, than m+, you need to understand a class and not just nerfing becous you think, they should stop thinking, everytime blizz is thinking its getting worse

[keen forum]

thats why you can change to boss damage only on statistics

[fossil oasis]

I think i’ll be spending more time on my dk until warrior gigascales again with insane gear and gaps everyone again

[keen forum]

dumb

[south kayak]

Listen fellas

You don’t want burst damage

[open prairie]

You want the hack to make people stop playing frost dk?

[south kayak]

Leads to nerfs

Sustain is where it’s at

[open prairie]

make every playable build run breath of sindragosa

[tidal kindle]

I get the argument that your individual parse is heavily at the mercy of having fury/fdk in your raid and how many vs just not

That make sense