#fury

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storm meadow
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2 targets IMHO (but I'm utterly lost with slayer's shit)

dense elbow
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As you will send CB and BB before your next Ramp in AoE, do either

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doesnt matter

winter shoal
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Sim says 2 but yeah probably doesn't matter much

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Technically the reason you CB first in single target is so the bloodcraze stack applies to your BB

reef berry
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And u need to choose

dense elbow
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If the mob got 1 hit left of HP

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execute

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kill it with style

winter shoal
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Or to get the bladestorm cdr from any marks you have on it before it dies

dense elbow
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Crows go caw caw caw

winter shoal
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True

reef berry
coarse moon
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/bw

pliant jackal
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pins we gotta start using this again

nocturne marsh
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Maybe I'm just not using an optimal rotation

winter shoal
pearl sequoia
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I saw noxiv doing 1 CB then BB instead of 2 CB's then BB

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im guessing thats correct yea

winter shoal
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Well you can't do 2 CBs so

dense elbow
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Two CBs in a row would be broken AF

pearl sequoia
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wdym

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cb then it resets

winter shoal
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CB is the buffed version of RB, once you use it once it turns back into RB

dense elbow
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I think you mean to say RB

winter shoal
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CB is much higher prio than RB

pliant jackal
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on ST CB>RB

dense elbow
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Not that you have a choice between the two

pearl sequoia
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???

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Im so confused

teal pine
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if cb resets it turns into an rb

dense elbow
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When you rampage, you get a buff that turns your next Raging Blow and Bloodthirst into Crushing Blow and Bloodbath

teal pine
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you cant chain cbs

dense elbow
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Imagine if we could tho, big dam

winter shoal
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It was so ass

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Back in 10.0

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Ramp > CB > CB for an entire fight

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Waste 75% of your rage

pearl sequoia
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im going to the dummies, i need to see this revelation

winter shoal
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Utter piss of a spec

dense elbow
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Enjoy, Jlow

fickle bluff
pearl sequoia
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Ahh, see this whole time ive been confusing CB reseting raging blow stacks and it keeps the highlight

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So i was thinking it was 2 CBs

dense elbow
winter shoal
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I mean I know you know that, just clarifying publically

pearl sequoia
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reading wtf is that

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2 CBs yo

calm quartz
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1 cbt pls

restive peak
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Big 12 timed we ball

winter shoal
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HE'S HUGE

storm meadow
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Question : do I have a way to see if the 2set is Additive or Multiplicative ?

upbeat plume
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blinks

gilded pawn
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almost everything in the game is multiplicative

summer glacier
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hey there, new to warrior in general, should i play around gushing wounds or nah?

gilded pawn
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no

summer glacier
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ty

glacial flare
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so for weapon enchants, do i go authority of the depths for both weapons?

hearty kelp
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for raid yezzir

pine walrus
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is there much diff between this two talents? i feel more fun playing frenzied, i would be down to lose a little bit of dps to get it

glacial flare
winter shoal
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You can sim yourself to see what the difference between them would be in terms of actual dps numbers instead of just "slightly better"

sullen dove
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someone tell me how on twins boss sv the robot does his box at the exact same time exhaust vents happen

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literally 0 fucking seconds to determine which corner to go in

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please remove this dogshit boss

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first time actually doing it on anything above a 4

teal pine
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my highest sv is currently a 4

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excited to experience the higher levels

coarse nest
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I don’t recall the vent overlapping maybe I haven’t run enough of them

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My highest an 8 I think

honest sundial
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there is an overlap at 1:40ish

coarse nest
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Or 7

honest sundial
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gotta be mid and identify it very fast

buoyant salmon
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yippee

winter shoal
pearl sequoia
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Yea the second time the box explodes there’s no warning

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Just gotta pray the safe corner isn’t on the other side of the box ur on

sullen dove
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well on our 3rd prog pull it didnt do that shit

pearl sequoia
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Pretty ridiculous

sullen dove
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so i think its just dogshit spell queueing

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that shouldnt be allowed

fading bane
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duo boss in SV can have fucked queueing ye

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youll get box first

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then vents

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and if its opposite gg

winter shoal
pearl sequoia
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I think u can still be safe sitting against the wall on a non safe vent, but not sure, just heard that the walls are safe so u can stand just next to a vent that’s blasting, since the explosion wave models aren’t accurate to their hit box

buoyant salmon
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does this dispell you on broodtwister

eager thorn
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Idt it dispells you but it can break the root

restive peak
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Yeah it breaks the root

eager thorn
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P sure at least

restive peak
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you leap>charge and it snaps

buoyant salmon
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yoo you think double 1:30 on use is the play

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to have one for every of roar

restive peak
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Don't

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But yeah apparently IDK I'm just gettin here

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But I've been told the leap charge w that works

buoyant salmon
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ill rip it on pull 1

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if i grief i say oops

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think this is tech

lime plaza
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Just got the sacbrood on a 8er key woho

restive peak
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I still have no skarm shard bro

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Fuckin 2700io already

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Skarmless

lime plaza
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You going for brood/shard ?

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Rn im running brood and corroding organ

restive peak
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I'll run shard khadros here

lime plaza
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2 on use? Interesting

restive peak
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For brood

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Not for general play

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I will run sac shard or sac khadros 90% of the time otherwise

bitter palm
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aggro jumpscare

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it WILL autoattack you for 8 million

restive peak
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Ye it just giga fucked me twice

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I even waited this time

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Sadness

young swan
smoky vale
brittle crow
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yea we had xal's affix go off (opposite side of room) at the same time as vents at the same time as box

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GG guess ill die

young swan
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remember when i said

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its the hardest dungeon this season

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bc of that boss

smoky vale
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i think last boss of grim batol

brittle crow
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man ill defend a lot of stupid dungeons
im ok with treacherous transmitter literally not working in dawnbreaker

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but FUCK stonevault

smoky vale
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just mind controls players into running over each other

meager void
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yo whats next weeks bargain?

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do we know?

brittle crow
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25% off race change

meager void
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... ty

lime plaza
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Fuck stonevault amen

modest condor
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we had the great idea to go into a stonevault with the only ranged interrupt being a boomkin

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we spent about 40 minutes on that boss

hard widget
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Dps increase just reflect it

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😄

modest condor
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real

lime plaza
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Bro today someone sperged out in my 10 stonevault and left the key with 3 minutes remaining. We were st the end boss already

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After that 9 disband 8 disband. We do my friends 10 stonevault DISBAND

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Im cursed

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My ignore list is getting really full

brittle crow
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imagine getting past the hard part then leaving

lime plaza
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His only reasoning was its not intime so bye

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We didnt even attempt it

brittle crow
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dont u still get io for overtime???

lime plaza
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You do

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Unless its heavily overtime

brittle crow
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a slightly overtime +10 would still give u a fuckload of io

lime plaza
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Which it wouldnt have been

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The community makes me so mad sometimes

indigo arch
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Not to mention it takes a 10 for myth track vault now

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So L mentality leaving all around

lime plaza
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Some people are actually damaged from pushing io too fast

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Not a good sign for pugs

indigo arch
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Ngl getting one group to not die to mechanists had me there

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That and ppl not pressing cds vs prenerf stitchflesh

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Wild how different the tuning is from shadowlands

smoky vale
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i think bringing something that can blink on machinists is turbo broken

idle wolf
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Leaving keys should make you lose io

smoky vale
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true

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mm

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nah

idle wolf
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Except then you get hostage scenarios

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There are no consequences currently to leaving though are there?

mellow smelt
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anyone have the macro for the gear-a-rang launcher?

lime plaza
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Its a tough thing to balance. I just sleep better knowing ill never play with them again due to the global ignore addon

lime plaza
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Well the global ignore list giga alerts you if youre in a group with them

dense elbow
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Global ignore is bis

lime plaza
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Once they are ignored

lapis eagle
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eu servers deadz

smoky vale
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you wasted your time

minor vine
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theres still a vault tmrw if u clear the 10

lime plaza
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I need 1 more 10 for the 4 slot one. Well mayve ill get it tomorrow

dense elbow
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EU still got today, and I got 3 more chars to do weekly 10 on gladge I get what I deserve for delaying doing it
Work work

smoky vale
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how many items are in the vault loot table?

dense elbow
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A lot a lot

brittle crow
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is anyone here in an NA guild w/ the pandaria raid achievement unlocked for the guild mount

pearl sequoia
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more than 5

brittle crow
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i need to mooch off a guild to get it

smoky vale
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so i have a 3/n chance to get one of the items i want

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lets go

dense elbow
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Sounds about right, but any 639 should be an upgrade for ya

lime plaza
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Vault system is designed to keep you playing for months

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I mean wheres the fun in target farming all your bis mythic gear and quitting

smoky vale
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i only want the gear to crank

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gear is zzz in itself

lime plaza
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I want a lil bit of both tbh

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Getting gear is fun

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But ya I wont be stepping into the mythic raid like ever

dense elbow
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Well, if you want dam - door is over here 🚪
I heard FDKs and arcane Mage's are nice this time of the year

lime plaza
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Sadge.

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This is actually my first time playing a meele class for an expansion. I usually always went with mage

tacit hawk
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Whats best loot specilization is it arms or fury

smoky vale
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arms

dense elbow
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Hey, glad you chose Fury. Once you go Fury you always come back

lime plaza
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I like the zug zug.

dense elbow
lime plaza
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I do miss being ranged on some bosses tough like mists last boss

dense elbow
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You can stay in and hit it, they adjusted it so you don't lose uptime

verbal breach
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you can spell reflect the knockback on ansurek from the adds in p2?

dense elbow
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AoE just is very scary, but ya will be fine at max melee reach

lime plaza
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I see

smoky vale
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The second i play dps in any keys im prob going to fall over

lime plaza
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You gotta really watch your ass yes or start praying once you do those tripple pulls to save time 🙏

frank robin
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Trying to get into keys as a warrior is a battle lmao

olive wraith
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As dps*

frank robin
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^

smoky vale
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even as prot its bad

rotund iron
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how important is our 4set

smoky vale
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not

rapid niche
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have someone tried to spell reflect the shadowblast from voidspeakers on ansurek intermission?

summer quail
rotund iron
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4p tier

bitter palm
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whats that

rotund iron
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ok

summer quail
sudden heath
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how come the guide says this, but when you import the talent build listed for this fight, that build doesn't take Juggernaut?

summer quail
sudden heath
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no this is fury

buoyant salmon
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seems like an arms message

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in the fury page

proud crown
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dont you run jug in everything as arms tho

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for raid

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sounds like a suggestion to me

olive wraith
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Probably just rely on BS for ads since they die instantly

sullen dove
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crazy how every key becomes necrotic wake

olive wraith
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Oof

bitter palm
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couldve been grim batol

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or some shit

sullen dove
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i mean

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dont think its much better

bitter palm
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at least personally

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it is

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nw is just blast 3rd boss

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stack spears/orbs

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grim batol first boss fucking destroys u

lime plaza
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Grim batol is honestly chill except the last boss noHate

bitter palm
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trash is extremely dangerous

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overseers can one tap ur tank

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through 2 defensvies

lime plaza
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Well just kite 4head

bitter palm
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when first boss roar

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oneshots most specs

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through light defensives

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even on 11 u need to rotate defensives

junior gale
bitter palm
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legit 2nd boss is the only chill part

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of that dungeon

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3rd boss just fucking lives forever

junior gale
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yeah gotta take stiches slow

bitter palm
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and u can easily lose focus and walk into one of the 19 nados

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and last boss is just rng

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sometimes u get a wall of tentacles

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gg

junior gale
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spell reflecting tentacles

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is bis

bitter palm
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or ur tank gets oneshot by the adds

junior gale
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huge tech

lime plaza
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Dont lose focus on 3rd boss then its easy af it just drags on

bitter palm
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as it turns out

junior gale
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circle goes small pop SR and soak all the tentacles

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huge

bitter palm
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and then tank dies through wall

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and extra defensive

junior gale
bitter palm
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nw is a massive snoozefest

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until 3rd

junior gale
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yeah its wild how chil the other bosses are

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then 3rd just goes hey

smoky vale
junior gale
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hows it going

smoky vale
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ive legit seen them wipe in every possible way

summer quail
junior gale
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ive had someone on 3rd boss invis a fixated add and the add insta turns to me and explodes

smoky vale
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the prob with the adds is that you get knocked away

smoky vale
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then your group just perma complains about having aggro instead of cc'ing them

bitter palm
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first boss roar

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is scaling

lime plaza
bitter palm
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very funnily

smoky vale
smoky vale
bitter palm
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i can tell it went from

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70% of my hp

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to 40% overkill

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in a single key level

smoky vale
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where does it say that?

bitter palm
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🎦

smoky vale
bitter palm
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but its oneshotting me

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in 11s

lime plaza
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Seems like blizz needs some tuning

bitter palm
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but

junior gale
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yeah at 10 I learned to have SR and dstance up for it every time

bitter palm
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i have 0 vers

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sr doesnt work its physical

lime plaza
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I only did it on 10 and its very managable

junior gale
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oh its phys

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thats a big F

smoky vale
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just press demo shout 🙂

lime plaza
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Guess on 11 its just rip?

junior gale
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I just assume every grp aoe is magic

bitter palm
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ez

smoky vale
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any na gamers want to do necrotic wake 🙂

junior gale
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time to thane it up

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got a full vault of 10s heres to hoping week 1 sac or mark

bitter palm
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xdd

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transmitter

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u will get

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voodoo

junior gale
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would be sad

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already got queens from first vault

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I dont wanna double on use grandpa, its cursed

bitter palm
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nw might become scary

tulip swallow
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blizzard wants everyone to double on use I gues

bitter palm
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i also noticed

tulip swallow
bitter palm
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heaving retch

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is funny

tulip swallow
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yeah that boss always kinda fucked

bitter palm
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man fuck this

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i dont want

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survivability checks all over again

lime plaza
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You gotta put shit into perspective youre pushing boundries week 1 of m+. The majorty is still stuck in 5 keys and under

brittle crow
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haha majorty

bitter palm
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m+ will be the same

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u wont be depleting cause of lack of damage

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u will be depleting cause an unavoidable cast

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kills you through all defensives

lime plaza
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Well either wait for tuning. Like I said week1

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Or start stacking vers

bitter palm
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been that way most of df

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doubt they will change it

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then u take the spec that makes everyone infinitely tankier (aug)

lime plaza
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You can always believe

junior gale
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tuning for higher keys is probably even more fucked rn cuz they tested beta with the 20% dmg buff not even working

bitter palm
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yeah

lime plaza
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Thats a yikes

bitter palm
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idk scaling seems wrong to me

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5-8 feel the same

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9 is w/e

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10 makes sense

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cause fortified

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but 11

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hoooly

hardy cargo
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11 mists aint too bad

marble swift
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critcake running ascension, is that our meta?

hardy cargo
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but its mists 🙂

bitter palm
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his focus is on raiding

marble swift
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he doesnt idk

pearl sequoia
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Isnt it every 1+ to a key is old +3 levels

marble swift
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is it?

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he's running it in m+

bitter palm
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yes cause he cant craft anything else

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duskthread lining is better

marble swift
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kk

bitter palm
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but ascension is better in raid

bitter palm
junior gale
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does anyone think keys are bugged I swear ara and dawnbreaker don't exist

bitter palm
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wasnt dawnbreaker turbo cancer

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on beta

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and now its just

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w/e

junior gale
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its only ever mists NW and SOB

bitter palm
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i only get siege

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not a single city

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of arakara

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or*

junior gale
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I have done ara once this whole week

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but like 20 mists and SOB

bitter palm
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12 grim batol timed hoooooly

junior gale
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thats wild

bitter palm
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nvm

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i got baited

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59 minutes

junior gale
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the trash in the last half of grim is disgusting

bitter palm
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the trash in the entire dungeon

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is disgusting

lime plaza
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You gotta have the god gamer reflexes

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To move out of all the shit

junior gale
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lavabenders seem to be bugged with their frontal line too

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sometimes it goes off immediatly

bitter palm
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man i wanna see

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yodas 11 grim batol pov

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that dung as ppal sounds

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evil

lime plaza
bitter palm
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overseer autoattack hit him for 7 mil through ardent defender

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on a 10

fluid cedar
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can i get some feedback on the silken court copypasta i made?

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tidal kindle
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You're using SAT words

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Gotta dumb those down a bit

balmy shore
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spider

lime plaza
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I love rhe spooder

bitter palm
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ye its cinema

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when it slowly turns to me

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and bites me

balmy shore
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yea that spider is spooky

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happy halloween

bitter palm
fluid cedar
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happy halloween

balmy shore
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rashanan makes me happy

spare steppe
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Rashanan can’t parry in dawnbreaker anymore!

young swan
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spoilers: none

teal pine
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arms kingdom

covert blaze
young swan
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yeah ive sent a couple messages about that shit

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dumb as fuck

covert blaze
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evil

young swan
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"lets just turn every log into boss damage logs!"

covert blaze
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should have happened before heroic week to dodge a nerf haha!!!!

thorny shoal
young swan
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they unironically made reading rashanan logs for worse guilds impossible

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for no reason

sudden heath
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Is there a quicker way to sim than using Gear Compare and manually inputting each gear item at the "would be ilvl"

young swan
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pretty sure top gear can do that now

sudden heath
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I know there's Top Gear, but I want to sim the upgraded ilvls before I dump a bunch of valorstones into them

buoyant salmon
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yeah use topgear

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click the plus

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on the item

sudden heath
young swan
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just give urself the currency

wicked dew
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Is there a negative to the weapon embelishment we use? Does the wrist embelishment like double the time it takes to get stacks or something?

young swan
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nope

wicked dew
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neat

young swan
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aside from the fact that it drops quite easily out of combaqt

wicked dew
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of course, I just meant specifically from the text of the wrist embelishment saying that it doubles the positive and negative effects

sudden heath
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dungeon slice the closest sim we're gonna get for M+ still?

frank robin
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our tier bonus is laughable

wicked dew
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tomorrow gonna be like christmas. I buy myself new crafted bracers and then under the Great Vault tree I get coal like rings or some shit

tidal kindle
spare steppe
young swan
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actually, with 0 prior knowledge, can you actually tell that adds spawn at all

spare steppe
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Wait is it completely excluded? I assumed it was just excluding that add damage in the overall dps percentiles

young swan
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its excluded competely

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according to the logs, the adds dont exist

spare steppe
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That is actually beyond stupid

young swan
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correct

spare steppe
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Considering the adds dying actually matters

young swan
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correct

young swan
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0 response after I posted

tidal kindle
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That comes to memory

spare steppe
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Time to join wcl discord

tidal kindle
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This gives me vibes of they dont play wow

young swan
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WCL team is big enough that im not sure its just kihra making decisions anymore

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could jsut be someone else

tidal kindle
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Ah

smoky vale
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nah theyve done the same thing in classic

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they might have c

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🙂

young swan
feral quartz
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do you only play around bloodcraze on 1 target? for example cb>bb on 1 target and bb>cb on 2+ targets if both are available?

balmy shore
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i look at details

tidal kindle
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Logs have been gerrymandered to not include even the existence of adds

balmy shore
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wait

tidal kindle
balmy shore
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what...

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nvm i hate rashanan

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why wcl make it unfun

tidal kindle
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Rash is a single target boss now

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Stop playing ww!

smoky vale
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true

restive peak
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Parry and logic; perfect

balmy shore
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im upset

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im setup

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upset

restive peak
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Setup to be upset

balmy shore
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MY DAY IS RUINED

tidal kindle
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Protest in wcl discord

balmy shore
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i'll just piggy back someone else's comment

tidal kindle
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Idc for change in terms of xdd look my damage, moreso the logic doesnt exist to warrant making the change and it actively hurts worse guilds

balmy shore
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LITERALLY

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like they haven't done that before have they

tidal kindle
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And it was rolled out midweek

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Like theres so much wrong with that

balmy shore
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what's the point of playing fury warrior

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what's the point of LIVING

tidal kindle
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Just remove boss from allstars

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Remove webbing damage if you dont want people spawning sources of pad

young swan
tidal kindle
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Link

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Dm i guess

junior gale
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rashan the real arms fight

frank robin
spare steppe
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Your job is to kill the adds so that the ST folks can parse

vivid tusk
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parse dn

winter shoal
spare steppe
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Retroactive too

covert blaze
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not big enough of changes for a patch for a partition

tidal kindle
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Go figure

young swan
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lmfao

tidal kindle
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When it was always done for a .5 patch and aug hooks were broken and reportedly fixed

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Err, the 4 week split rather

young swan
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thats good shit

spare steppe
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I just don’t like how it sends the entirely wrong message on how to do well on that fight

north edge
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for the geared bros out there

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Do we compete at all with fdks and rets on damage

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In keys

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With the 636 and 626 wep combos

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I’m getting fucking shat on atm with my shitty 610+606 wep combo

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Consistently like 15-20% behind them atm at 7-8 key levels

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Grinding out 90 gilded is very taxing when every key is a deplete

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Will take me over 20 runs at +9

tidal kindle
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(Only if you agree with what I said though)

balmy shore
young swan
balmy shore
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+1

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yeah idk why it's not just taken out of all stars

spare steppe
tidal kindle
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If my logic is wrong anywhere lmk
But even with my bias towards myself accounted for, I don't think it is

balmy shore
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how do you even cheese more adds

tidal kindle
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People intentionally get web trapped

balmy shore
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oh i see

tidal kindle
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So it makes sense you remove web damage

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No complaints on that one

buoyant salmon
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ive come around to dislike it more

north edge
tidal kindle
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The natural add spawn that has to be dealt with or your raid dies being filtered out is silly

spare steppe
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I’ve been checking out wcl for better warriors than myself to make sure my breakdown is close to right

north edge
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depending on the key, I’ll do like 900k dps whereas they’re at 1.1mil

balmy shore
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i don't see how rashanan is any different from assauilt of the zaqali there's an enrage on rashanan too

north edge
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And I get gapped in single target

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Especially on bosses

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Where there loads of movement

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And shit to dodge

balmy shore
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yeah just drop the damage from webbed ppl and remove all stars

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no cheese

north edge
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I feel like FDK immunes like

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Half the m+ mechanics

spare steppe
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Do you have any generic boss logs to make sure you’re doing your rotation right too? But yeah fdk and ret both seem to be pumping lately

north edge
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With ams/ibf

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Where as like I step 1mm into a circle

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Die immediately

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Or like to dodge mechiacs I just lose so much dps

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The circles are more than my melee range just by a tiny bit

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I’m at the point where I can’t group with any melee in many keys

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Because we just fuck each other with the circles on the boss

buoyant salmon
keen fulcrum
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I am a bean.

feral quartz
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i start brood prog tn. saw revvez running AM with uproar instead of a point in armored to the teeth. im gonna try that out but after nerfs tomorrow id imagine add dam will be less important enough to go back to RA? im the only war

young swan
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def just play for add damage

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thats basically the only reason ur there

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leave boss dam to people that are actually good at doing boss dam

feral quartz
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yea. we dont have fdks or other wars so im just trying to go full pad. uproar seems to line up nicely for adds looking at vods

frail trout
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I'm so done with keys man, end of dungeon loot just doesn't exist

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imagine playing wow the entire weekend + today and not having any items to show for it

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from 9's

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just waste of my time

unique spoke
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they fix the thing where as fury you need 4 sparks for 2 weapons?

young swan
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dont play arms

covert blaze
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baseg

winter shoal
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Fellas I practiced arms and it was like 7% worse on dummy

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Is it joever for me?

covert blaze
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practice more

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you're also hitting a dummy on the prime execute spec

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xdd

winter shoal
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I'm p sure I'm playing it correctly, maybe using more executes than I should

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I tested execute as well and it was like a 130k dps difference or so between fury and arms on dummy

frank dawn
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If your stats are optimized for fury that makes it harder for arms to pull ahead too

winter shoal
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Yeah I mean I did a top gear and raidbots suggested less crit than I would've expected but idk, ended up like 21/20/25/8 I think

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I guess dummy sim for arms is like 5% behind fury, so probably not too far off

buoyant salmon
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crit stack for arms isnt that great in my experience

winter shoal
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Yeah idk the sim profile is 15k/17k/6k but raidbots was telling me to go like 8k/15k/12k or something

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We do as the robot commands though

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I also have the ascendance embellish instead of duskthread so maybe that affects it

proud osprey
edgy widget
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no, it's not an exploit

winter shoal
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Wait SR blocks the tentacles?

junior gale
#

yes

winter shoal
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Yuge

junior gale
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you can soak a bunch of them

winter shoal
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I mean it doesn't last THAT long but yeah that's huge

junior gale
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you wait till circle gets super small and u soak any tentacle in the circle for ur grp

winter shoal
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Doesn't help with the run into the circle when you can't see tentacles through the boss's big ol dumpy but that's sick

mortal warren
#

What is sr?

proud osprey
mortal warren
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Right

sand sedge
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in general do we hold OF/bladestorm to send with each other for the avatar buff on OF?

winter shoal
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I wouldn't hold it more than like 1 or 2 globals tbh

real warren
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If I know it’ll take too many global to wait, I’ll just blow OF

naive swallow
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just found out you couldnt leap charge mid air now

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cant believe they ninja nerfed this thingy

sullen dove
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Be insane if liq actually kills boss 9% pretty close

olive wraith
#

I thought court was gonna be another tswift

sage cloak
#

Hey lovely warriors players! I got a question regarding haste/mastery stats and diminishing returns! Is there a certain barrier of haste% where I should prio other stats over haste? Like crit and stuff.

tardy lark
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go to raidbots.com and sim your character and never wonder about stats again

calm quartz
sick jungle
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Guys does critcake share his profile by any chance?

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Like wa

tidal kindle
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He's got a pretty sharp side profile

sick jungle
tidal kindle
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He uses atrocity UI base then modified it a bit

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So the atrocity bit he won't give you

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Should be a command in his stream

sick jungle
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Truuu okay sick ty

unique frigate
#

Are we getting more nerfs tomorrow?

young swan
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hopefully

unique frigate
#
World of Warcraft Forums

We’ve followed recent data and feedback on class performance and are preparing to make adjustments to many classes with scheduled weekly maintenance in each region. Classes Death Knight Rider of the Apocalypse: Trollbane’s Icy Fury slows targets by 40% (was 70%). Druid Feral Rampant Ferocity now damages enemies within 8 yards of the Druid...

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Nothing on here at least

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Fire and bm getting some love

tardy lark
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i doubt fury is gonna get nerfed more if thats what you are wondering

oblique trail
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The 14th fury nerf is gonna hit tomorrow

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Undocumented change

tardy lark
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-3% aura ez

fast mural
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Arms buff first then fury nerfs

fast cypress
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Just gotta say as a multi glad 2800xp warrior this is the worst warrior has felt in like 7 years they absolutely gutted us paper thing bottom damage cause we're always getting trained how is this allowed ?

fast mural
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As a PvP player you can always blame PvE for that

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And as a PvE player you can always blame PvP

odd star
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so...it happened...i go arms next week for sikran and kyveza fuck it

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arms is easy right

tidal kindle
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But yah if serious with that talking point, as xan said pvp channel

odd star
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reassure me chat

young swan
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nah its bait i just wanna see him get flamed in pvp for being stupid

tidal kindle
vast token
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Just gotta say as a multi glad 2800xp warrior this is the worst warrior has felt in like 7 years they absolutely gutted us paper thing bottom damage cause we're always getting trained how is this allowed ?

odd star
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Just gotta say as a multi glad 2800xp warrior this is the worst warrior has felt in like 7 years they absolutely gutted us paper thing bottom damage cause we're always getting trained how is this allowed ?

tardy lark
warm crag
tardy lark
haughty lichen
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is rampage suppose to be my highest dmging spell in m+ or am i just fucking up?

karmic grail
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anyone got any idea what bis embellishments would be if i kinda bounce between fury and prot? like is there a middle ground that isn't min max but still performs ok?

haughty lichen
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okay seems about right

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tyu

vague copper
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If you look on WCL topD's have CB a bit over Rampage

chrome relic
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fury very balanced on M Rasha'nan

vague copper
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And bossdmg?

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Still good but not that far ahead :P..

calm quartz
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oh lord, nerfs incoming

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zzz

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classes actually super close

fleet parrot
calm quartz
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I know lmao

fleet parrot
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Allow a fucking spec it’s niche

calm quartz
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revert the aura nerf

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grrrr

fast mural
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How is it niche if every single boss has adds

calm quartz
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isnt... that Furys niche

fleet parrot
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You do understand that Furys niche is add damage right?

calm quartz
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blowing up adds

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I wouldnt mind a meat cleaver buff

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: )

fleet parrot
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Be nice if they made it into funnel somehow

warm crag
hollow bough
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I'd rather lose 5% aoe to gain 5% single target. Maybe something about that dogshit tier set of ours. Can't even bare to read the tooltip.

calm quartz
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our st in M+ kinda cracked tho

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while ppl lose more in their aoe specs

plucky ice
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more nerf soon blizz see ape numba go crazy must nerf

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aoe*

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lmaoo

warm crag
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They must nerf us based on ulgrax bloodbound performance

hollow bough
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And what is this bs considering aoe numbers? Like it is not our fault they designed half the raid to have add wave lining up to our our aoe burst. What's gonna happen next patch when you have like 5 ST encounters and maybe 1 that is 2-target?

calm quartz
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guess youre going arms buddy

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hopefully the tier sets will be more interesting than 2% passive damage

hollow bough
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Rankings ain't gonna look like that.

oblique trail
warm crag
warm crag
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I was not informed that add damage wasn't counted in rashanan so I cooked a tender 6 parse

oblique trail
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Should've been Arms and only ever touched the boss!

hollow bough
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I'm not mad about that haha I'm pissed that they nerfed us on account of aoe numbers for fights they designed 🤣

warm crag
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This is my plan for next week!

warm crag
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What does this imply about the state of pre nerf fury

oblique trail
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That you did too much damage

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Stop having people sandbag so you can do AoE!!

young swan
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dumb as fuck

hollow bough
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Nah ull see fury sliding once our horrific tier piece kicks in. And that is excluding ST where we suck balls haha

oblique trail
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Wdym sliding

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We're already in a really good spot that wont change

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Until later into the tier where everyone has timers down comfortably and adds have no health due to multiple nerfs, so you can't get to solo every add set yourself while maximising the damage

hollow bough
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There are still a lot of ppl not running 4 piece. This upcoming reset everything will be clearer I think.

warm crag
oblique trail
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I think a lot of the people who care have 4p

calm quartz
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I mean, take anyones damage

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and add 2%

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its not the massive lol

warm crag
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Surely just killing the all star is correct

calm quartz
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Ah I see what you mean, as in other classes with stronger 4pc will pull ahead

hollow bough
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How much is the enhancement 4p? 😅

warm crag
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Like if your guild was srs at gearing and you're clearing mythic (which are the stats being linked) everyone that gains a lot from 4p will have it

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If anything, fury stats should improve cause those are those should be the last sets being obtained lmao

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Of course I have no stats to back that up same as you so no point in discussing it

sage cloak
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Question! When it comes to 4piece, what time slot should be considered not tier? Ive seen a mix of either headpiece or legs

chrome relic
tardy lark
warm crag
real warren
warm crag
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There's no clear cut answer

north sky
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is there a reason charged claymore is considered bis over everforged greataxe?

sage cloak
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Thank you all!

real warren
warm crag
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All crafted str 2hs are the same

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Baited by bis lists gg...

north sky
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actually my guildmate is fuming at me telling me its all the same

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"muh icy veins"

warm crag
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Tldr

tidal kindle
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Nah you have to read it

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And read the response

warm crag
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I'm in a train for 5 more hours

tidal kindle
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Which is big xdd

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So you got time to kill

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Very good

warm crag
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Man

warm crag
tidal kindle
eternal sundial
warm crag
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Xan took the offer first

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No deflated dog for gfury

young swan
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he did send me a deflated dog

tidal kindle
young swan
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(its just a borzoi)

eternal sundial
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Weird emoji name

tidal kindle
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Memorable though

oblique trail
warm crag
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Very cute dog tho

warm crag
chrome relic
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ppl killing it since prob

north edge
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bruh

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That wowhead article

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Fury warrior #1 overall damage in mythic raid, and dead last in boss damage lmfao

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Below Aug evokers

warm crag
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We're not brought for bossdam

tardy lark
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i love the malding when people have top performing aoe spec and another spec top 5 single target in the same class

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but then complain about the top aoe spec not doing ST

north edge
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I can’t really switch specs in a key

tardy lark
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not you specifically sorry

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just fury players malding is funny to me

oblique trail
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Good thing you wont have to because Fury already does really good ST in keys

warm crag
olive wraith
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Panic the dps chart is out

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Will another nerf come

oblique trail
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Yes we're about to be nerfed for the 36th time this week

olive wraith
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Fury no longer dual wields 2h

warm crag
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Will the western moon civilization fall?

teal pine
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stitchflesh on a 10

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kinda nuts

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winnable

oblique trail
warm crag
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Holy

oblique trail
oblique trail
warm crag
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This is a meaningful graph

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Mods pin this!

ocean jetty
#

quick question, can you spell reflect the fox on 2nd boss mists?

storm rune
oblique trail
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Also look in #dps-faq for the sheet in the future

hollow bough
bitter salmon
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maybe i am too bad but how am i supposed to clear t8 delves? i am ilvl 598
if i dont wait for all cooldowns i am getting destroyed and even if i wait i still get destroyed sometimes

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maybe there is a good brann build or it matters if i level him first? 🤔

oblique trail
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Leveling him does matter, and I'd recommend putting Porcelain Arrow on him and w/e the relic is that gives you haste during combat

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Outside of that, you can solo delves fairly comfortably at that ilvl if you're paying attention and good at the spec, otherwise just take it slow

bitter salmon
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that's my setup, didn't touch for a long time i think

bitter salmon
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i don't know, i am using anything possible, spell reflect, kick on cd etc.

tidal kindle
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Prot isn't top 5 ST....

teal pine
oblique trail
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If you absolutely have to, and you can't manage, then put Brann to healer

oblique trail
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Just make sure to coordinate which hook you use Spears on and save CDs for it, while still making sure to kill the abom

tardy lark
oblique trail
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Even with pugs I've managed on 10s, though it's a bit rough if they're not good at pressing buttons

rancid blade
teal pine
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im pretty good at pressing buttons but

storm rune
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you're pugging 10s? I tried 3 pugs without my group and gave up all hope for humanity

oblique trail
teal pine
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tryna rat out a key real fast

bitter salmon
tidal kindle
oblique trail
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Tho tbf I did have one or two depletes just because I wanted the vault slot

bitter salmon
oblique trail
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It's the one that alternates a buff while in combat

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That + Porcelain Arrow for 20% crit

rancid blade
tardy lark
bitter salmon
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alright, i'll try again thanks

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i should probably level those buffs? they are 1/4

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do they drop randomly or can i target farm

oblique trail
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Honestly couldn't tell you how you upgrade them, if you even can

rancid blade
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They drop from the chests at the end

unique frigate
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Is 1.1m overall good at 610? And 2set

rancid blade
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What also is quit useful is to track his interrupt

bitter salmon
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you guys do delves with st or multi talents? i am just using my m+ setup

bitter salmon
oblique trail
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I just used my M+ talents

rancid blade
sacred fiber
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are you guys pre-casting on pull/using transmitter separately from CDs? tried running it with avatar for a while but the delay to proc it during CDs sucks ass

warm crag
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Ye throw it like 10s before pull

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Collect the buff by charging

night relic
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How u collecting the platform by charging

pearl crypt
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correct me if im wrong, but u cant macro TR and champion's spear to 1 macro right?

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since both are on GCD

sacred fiber
tardy axle
tardy lark
young swan
tardy lark
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@player ree

warm crag
pearl crypt
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i know i know, im just asking becaue someone mentioned a macro they are using

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and it has both macroed

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along with trinkets, racials and reck

warm crag
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Loboz my king

tardy lark
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has he actually done it this xpac as well

warm crag
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Dunno

oblique trail
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Loboz Thane AM Roar + SPear build

eternal sundial
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RAAAHHH

tribal flint
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do you think i have too much haste? my sim didnt really go anywhere getting 4 piece

radiant plank
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thats a 4p issue

bitter salmon
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changing brann to heal was best decision, made the t8 so easy

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thanks boys

tribal flint
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damn

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was hoping to hit 1.1

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fuk

storm rune
#

Nah, unironically your race is more important than your 4p

bitter salmon
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wait did i get lucky? i did 1 t8

eternal sundial
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Doesnt rlly matter now that m+ exists

lament hinge
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bottom of the charts again

oblique trail
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Getting a Bounty in your first delve is pretty lucky yes

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My warrior got none in any of the Bountiful's I did last week

oblique trail
eternal sundial
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Me when i make graphs supporting my argument

frozen berry
#

...Ok, my RL is wanting us dps, even us melee, to get off the bosses to focus the adds on Silken Court when people are consistently not bringing the adds anywhere near the bosses and the adds aren't going down in a timely manner alot of the time. They even said they want us to run out and follow the adds around till their brought to boss(If the fixated person even bothers doing so) and then we get to do dps to the bosses... is this the correct way to do that mechanic? Last time I brought it up here peeps here said no and to 'let them die'.

eternal sundial
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Wrong way to do it

lament hinge
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no

eternal sundial
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Make ranged move

dry ruin
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we do use our druids to vortex adds on the boss

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so we can cleave everything

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If someone is fixated and run away from boss, let them die

frozen berry
# buoyant salmon have your dk grip them

Yeah, we usually only have 1 dk in the team so far and he's dps and he does a good job of yoinking them in but it doesn't seem to be enough. I can kinda understand the peeps doing the webs and I brought up save the grip/knocks for those people if needed but it seems like almost every pull we got someone halfway cross the room running from a adds and the RL starts telling us to get off boss and go focus adds to save them... 😦

eternal sundial
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Tell your ranged to stop being dogshit

bitter salmon
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any1 did waxface on delves? can i dodge his burn ability or do i have to tank that?

sleek badge
#

Hello guys, what do you use some auto /combatlog ? If you're using something

tribal flint
#

it really is crazy how ass our 4 piece is

real warren
sleek badge
lament hinge
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wowhead

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warcraft logs that is

sleek badge
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Can't find it on wowhead

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I still see a lot of fury with good parse

lament hinge
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scroll down

eternal sundial
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Which isnt what ppl are optimizing for

sleek badge
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we're still first overall but

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overall means with the adds ?

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I mean

lament hinge
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well do u understand why we are first

eternal sundial
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On mythic so there's even less logs

sleek badge
#

boss adds or trash ?

eternal sundial
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Cuz we do our job very well

eternal sundial
#

Raid trash isnt a thing anyone cares about

sleek badge
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Yeah so fury is still great it's fine

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very great

radiant plank
#

rashan incident

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:horror

eternal sundial
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No we must doom

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It's so over bros

lament hinge
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im more concerned about m+ performance than raid, obviously single target damage is awful at best

sleek badge
#

Can we find a similar chart for M+ ?

junior gale
#

Fury is still preforming fine in M+

eternal sundial
eternal sundial
#

Bro ur tripping

oblique trail
sleek badge
#

Looks like the maxroll.gg dps tierlist for M+ is accurate af

eternal sundial
#

@oblique trail avg Hosen pfp tbh

sleek badge
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as expected we're beheind DKs,Ench,Aug,Arcane,Afflic and Assa

oblique trail
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Hosen usually synonymous with bad so if you flame my pfp then sad

narrow narwhal
#

Cute anime pfp as always

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Phil do you need some more sleep? You seem cranky

oblique trail
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Think everyone could use a bit more sleep

narrow narwhal
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I'm up an hour and a half early. Hope I fall back asleep

clever belfry
oblique trail
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If I dont when I go to school I will be expelled or made a lot of fun of

clever belfry
#

Hosenpflicht aufgehoben

oblique trail
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Maybe the western society should fall after all, nerf fury even more

clever belfry
#

western society already has fallen

oblique trail
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Not enough for I am still being attacked for not wanting to wear hosen in public

clever belfry
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be the change you want to see

pearl sequoia
#

Dawnbreaker 10

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I swear im doing the roation right, but CB is rarely my top

real warren
oblique trail
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Do you have near equal CB/Ramp casts

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If yes, you're playing right, if not then you're sending rampage too much

pearl sequoia
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233 rampages 210 CBs

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Hmrmrmr

brittle fulcrum
#

Hey, how do i see if I deflected an ability in warcraft logs?

oblique trail
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Even including downtime, and having to reenrage, I always have CB as my highest in keys

pearl sequoia
#

Must be skill issue then ill work on

real warren
oblique trail
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It happens sometimes, albeit very rarely, where I ramp at the end of a pack

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But this is just me not playing well where I could've held the ramp

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Otherwise then no, you should never be in that situation except for downtime

queen tapir
#

has anyone tried AM in m+ / ad bosses?

clever belfry
#

i used to have a script to filter for it, but i forgor

oblique trail
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You only use it on Broodtwister for cd alignment for every add set

clever belfry
queen tapir
oblique trail
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It's simply too big of an ST loss for not a lot of AoE

clever belfry
slender perch
#

Just did a quick 9 NW @pearl sequoia 1.40m overall dps

clever belfry
#

(dodged, parried)

slender perch
pearl sequoia
#

do you have 2 set?

eternal sundial
#

Doctor boss damage

oblique trail
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Oh right

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Indeed average hosen wearer