fury

[sullen dove]

i mean as always depends how much time you’re willing to spend

[warm crag]

first might be doable if you're hyper coordinated

[sullen dove]

Bosses not mechanically hard but hit like a truck this early

[warm crag]

first just requires 8 minutes of concentration so idk if thats puggable

[sick jungle]

I just read up on mythic changes and it's just setting up soak groups

yep, already too hard for pugs rip

[warm crag]

i mean its as hard as saying g1/g2 go first then g3/g4 go second

[eternal sundial]

Pugs famously cant do easy stuff

[lament hinge]

they should change the tier to increase RB damage instead of BT

[sick jungle]

i was just hoping for a chance at the weapon

oh well, guess I'll wait until our raid clears hc

[pearl harbor]

Hi, in a MM+ setting playing reckless abandon. Do you hold your OF+BS to sync it back with avatar+temerity? i am currently using on CD, but i wonder if there's a trigger point where i should wait to sync. Did someone do the math? like when there is less than X sec to full burst, hold BS?

[oblique trail]

Use CDs on CD, hold Bladestorm if Avatar is ready within 10~ seconds

[pearl harbor]

Ok, ty for that!

[earnest meteor]

from the set you dont play the helmet ?

[clever belfry]

baneeeezi

[clever shore]

when we have the 2 piece set, does the rotation with bloodbath change anything?

[oblique trail]

Gloves are the least desired for Fury, but you can play whichever you really want and it wont make a big difference

[abstract dawn]

quick question, is the best missive for crafted weapon mast and vers?

[oblique trail]

Andus Ballsus

The best missive is mastery + X

[abstract dawn]

ty

[oblique trail]

Typically if you only play Fury, mastery + haste is very safe

[abstract dawn]

sounds good tyvm

[covert blaze]

can't find a missive that has a stat called ''X''

banezo pls help

[buoyant salmon]

doesnt really matter

[fickle wharf]

Hey, I've already crafted a 619 weapon and I was wondering what would you recommend to craft with the "free" Enchanted Runed Harbinger Crest from the quest ?

[past pivot]

Something you need.

Wrists or belt with embellishment perhaps

[covert void]

Seeing most top warriors go depths weapon enchant, mostly for raid purposes? radiant power better for m+?

[eternal sundial]

Doing big st helps in keys as well

[calm quartz]

Big priority and boss damage

Paladins fuck the meters

We fuck what matters

Pause

[covert void]

xD

fair

isn't one of each just a good balance then, already have r3 radiant on offhand so

r3 depths on 636

[half snow]

hey, does someone have raidbots simulation options for M+ & Fury

[past pivot]

Sim and use the recommendations, be it two of the same or two different

[covert void]

i mean, thats my point though for m+ it says radiant, is why I was curious all top warriors went depths, prob for prio raid, but I get why its still good in m+ too for bosses

nvm all good

[warm crag]

its p much 99% just raid prio

[oblique trail]

Just sim patchwerk 5 min 1 target

Whatever sims best in an ST scenario is basically equally as good in AoE

[half snow]

k thx 🙂

[golden hare]

bonji i followed this advice and now my spells don't cleave anymore why

[oblique trail]

because after the bs/of nerfs all we can do now is priority damage so you go full ST talents in m+ obviously

[golden hare]

[eager thorn]

for gems do i just need to make sure i have 1x masterful emerald+ruby+sapphire then fill any other sockets with quick onyx?

as well as a diamond ofc

[river viper]

I hate stone vault so much, such a shit dungeon

[calm quartz]

I have become infertile from eating scented candles

The

[green zephyr]

I second this

[river viper]

and why is there a 1 handed sword in the loot table for fury doens't make any sense

[sick jungle]

i hate to admit it but I don't properly get skarmorak and I'm too lazy to google it

[oblique trail]

Go Arms loot spec

[sick jungle]

i just zug and leave the crystals to other people

[green zephyr]

Use arms

[river viper]

yeah will do next time 🙂

[serene vessel]

Kill crystals but staggered

[kindred sequoia]

is there any reason to ever go smf?

[serene vessel]

Get circles to help kill shield

[oblique trail]

No

[green zephyr]

I only know the zugzug blastway

[serene vessel]

Gg that's skarmorak

[river viper]

its the last boss that gets me, you clear your dot at the portal which always puts me out of range of any healer and I am dead

[sick jungle]

how quickly do you kill the next crystal

[oblique trail]

SMF is numerically always worse than TG, unless you only have 1handers

[green zephyr]

Health pot

[serene vessel]

You don't want to stack the debuff that's all.

[green zephyr]

Are a must

I never trust healers

[serene vessel]

Killing one gives debuff that makes you take inc damage from the next one

[river viper]

yeah this was the 3rd one in, I used my def, then HP and then I was fucked

[serene vessel]

Great way to die

[river viper]

need more ilvls 🙂

[green zephyr]

U know wich dungeon is wurse dawnbreaker

Our key timed out cause we got stuck in the boat

[river viper]

I loved that last night, I couldn't land on the ship I just went through it over and over

[green zephyr]

Yep

This was not m+ ready

[timid sonnet]

Would you prio 603 sacbrood or hero track tier shoulders from vault? Tier seems very underwhelming. I've simmed it but I just don't want to accept the results 😵‍💫 does sacbrood go hard

[green zephyr]

But guess blizz dosnt beta test

[calm quartz]

They only had all of beta to fix it

[green zephyr]

Nah man its intended its called tww affix

[spare steppe]

You can farm sacbrood and you should have enough tokens tomorrow to be able to get 4p. Depends on the availability of hero gear for you

I personally went for tier since I wanted heroic sacbrood and tier, which eh, is still a % boost

[green zephyr]

Tier is better for now i think altough is our 4 set that amazing

Eh

[timid sonnet]

Tier definately sims better for me in any scenario I've tried. Its just nice having a passive trinket + 1 active instead of 2 active 🥹 I don't really raid that much, some random mythic+. very casual

[green zephyr]

No zugzug?

[timid sonnet]

the most casual of zugs

[steep geyser]

I'm new to Fury. Are we still supposed to wait for the 75% bloodbath before hitting it, or just hit it when we're down to filler regardless of what % it's at

[timid sonnet]

Is it from m7+ that it starts dropping hero track?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[oblique trail]

You send it if it reaches 85%+ but don't prioritise getting it to that

It's simply just an in-case scenario, which doesn't happen frequently

[unreal onyx]

💪

[timid sonnet]

Ok thanks. Realistically would be wisest to just grab that hero track piece and try to be lucky with Ara-kara for sacbrood, it's champion track anyway

[oblique trail]

Correct

Since even as the most casual of players will be able to get a champ track Ara anyway

[unreal onyx]

I got like 12 sockies spare if you need some

[timid sonnet]

makes 100% sense

[steep geyser]

Thanks! The Icy Veins guide says bloodlust every 3 GCDs and I wasn't sure if I was supposed to just send it or hold for the higher %

[flint otter]

is there a threshold of Haste we should be aiming for?

[oblique trail]

No

Just sim yourself in top gear and use whatever it tells you

[flint otter]

neat

[gentle sun]

hellow guys im gonna craft my weapon today 🙂

should i go for darkmoon sigil?

[fickle wharf]

Hey, I've already crafted a 619 weapon and I was wondering what would you recommend to craft with the "free" Enchanted Runed Harbinger Crest from the quest ? Another 2H weapon ?

[serene vessel]

how yall getting so much gold

im broke boy

[oblique trail]

An off piece like wrists/cloak/belt to put Writhing Armor Banding on or Lining if you're M+ focused

Crafting 2 weapons is just a waste of sparks, since you can reasonably get a 2nd hero track weapon by the time you get another 2 sparks

[fresh ivy]

do we ever switch out talents for certain dungeons?

how is arms compared to fury in m+ btw?

[steep geyser]

Looking at my logs I've missed a lot of rampage casts because apparently I'm just blind and can't keep an eye on my rage bar. Does anyone have a good weak aura for rage tracking that will yell at this dumb ape to cast the right thing to not cap out on rage?

[serene vessel]

i mean this is hard to say because it depends on ur UI, but I really like Khakan WA pakc

i edited it a lil bit of course but keeps all my important buttons near my field of view

[steep geyser]

I'll take a look. Thanks

[winter shoal]

There's some tech with second wind for CoT coaglamation boss, but other than that not really. You maybe want to play uproar in some keys but not others, but I think either way on that is fine

[fresh ivy]

okay cool, any tricks&tips on yt for m+?

[serene vessel]

do you not play second wind on every dungeon?

i dont know what I would take instead, second wind is so nice

[winter shoal]

Idk I know I take the 5% movespeed node but I don't remember off the top of my head what I swapped it for

Second wind does nothing most of the time, but when it does work it's really good

[serene vessel]

i would never

[runic violet]

knife vs shard... hmmm

[serene vessel]

remove this tbh

[orchid dagger]

Are you fucking kidding me?

That bottom line is a lifesaver

[serene vessel]

unrelated but chat anyone know a way to get gold back from the AH quicker than 1 hour? I have found an arbitrage window but I am poor boy

[serene vessel]

sorry I think you misunderstood what I wrote because I have autism and broke my sentence into two parts, I was saying "I would never remove this tbh"

[orchid dagger]

Autism (doesn't) speaks

But yeah Second Wind too good

[serene vessel]

unrelated but fun fact autism speaks is a horrible organization

[orchid dagger]

Most non-profits/charities are

[fading sky]

Buff fury for m+

[serene vessel]

ur not wrong but this is especially bad in the sense htat like they actively hurt autistic people

this isnt just a "oh they funnel money out" type deal

[edgy oasis]

On pull i have so much rage. Should I be casting Rampage over crushing blow bloodbath and execute? I'm confused.

Execute > Crushing blow > bloodbath then??

Execute gives more bladestorm yeah?

[orchid dagger]

I mean it's not Clinton Foundation at least lmao

[serene vessel]

they promote behavioral treatment thats very much regarded as outdated

[orchid dagger]

Only if not Enraged

[serene vessel]

unfortunately u basically pretend rage isnt a real resource

BUFF RAMPAGE

[orchid dagger]

Yeah they need to look at Fury's actual rotation and not just it's spike

[serene vessel]

i said it when they nerfed BS and OF, they should have compensated with meat cleaver buffs

[edgy oasis]

So what is the prio, pretending you're always enraged.

[orchid dagger]

Blizzard hates brown class, you think we get nice things?

[orchid dagger]

CB > BB > Ramp

[stuck basin]

Ok so I love playing my warrior. I have been playing slayer. I would really like to play thane but is it viable at this time. If so what spec should I be running?

[orchid dagger]

Slayer or bust

[edgy oasis]

Where does sudden death come in?

[orchid dagger]

At some point, wowhead has the full rotation down

[olive wraith]

Thane does fine in prolonged aoe. St is severely down compared to slayer

[orchid dagger]

You don't always immediately jump on Execute procs

[edgy oasis]

Yes ok
Think I've got it.

[olive wraith]

When you have 3 marked for ex

[orchid dagger]

Tbh I'm fucking annoyed that Execute isn't just a "I see it I click it" button anymore

[fresh ivy]

so u shouldnt use it without x3 marked?

[fervent yoke]

Is it alright to macro reck with avatar? Both shard cd times etc.

[fresh ivy]

ever?

[stuck basin]

I had really high hopes for thane when I first seen it. I hope they buff it some

[orchid dagger]

If Ashen Jugg is about to fall off you can, but even then it's not that high priority

[fading sky]

If they buff thane enough fury might be great again in m+!

[summer quail]

it is high prio when ashen is about to fall off

[orchid dagger]

You must be new to Warrior then

[fervent yoke]

I just execute when I have nothing up to press or over a unbuffed BT / RB

[fading sky]

Rb first

[fervent yoke]

Oh good to know thanks

[fading sky]

Rb buffs ramp

[olive wraith]

You can but you occasionally wanna use rek before you charge in m+. You do not wanna cast avatar when your away from mobs

[fervent yoke]

I just charge then pop reck / avatar I’m sure I’m losing a rampage bc of it or excess rage but it’s one global

[orchid dagger]

Rage is largely cosmetic to Fury

[fervent yoke]

Hahaha true

[orchid dagger]

Like it matters*

*: it fucking doesn't

[stuck basin]

So you don't believe thane will be viable any through tww

[serene vessel]

at some point in TWW I'm sure it will be

its not right now

(outside of delves)

[orchid dagger]

I don't trust Blizz to buff it

It's more likely to be that they shit on Slayer so much that we end up on Thane

[past pivot]

Viable? It's viable now. Good? TBD

[fresh ivy]

so wowhead is safe to follow for rotation etc?

[runic violet]

I'd say I just take it as reference.

I recommend spar some dummies in dornogal

[fresh ivy]

feels like ive got it mostly under control but wasnt aware u shouldnt macro together the 2 big cds

[runic violet]

I don't but probably ok... as I always send avatar and reck together

[bitter salmon]

what's the easiest m+ dungeon for you guys atm?

[runic violet]

I dunno... they all seem pretty challenging lol

[summer quail]

mists and dawnbreaker

[eternal sundial]

mists

[proud vessel]

how good/bad is

[runic violet]

hardest probably the vault

[summer quail]

arakara is easy as well for but people are bad at last boss

[runic violet]

it's great!

[eternal sundial]

its champion

wouldnt take it tbh

[summer quail]

necrotic wake, if the dps is low you are really gonna feel it. it's night and day depending on dps

[proud vessel]

I have it and its an upgrade on my current trinkets

Just wondering if the debuff is so bad its not worth running

[spiral orbit]

that knife only sims like 1k below egg sac for me

[runic violet]

i ran quiet a lot of wakes. maybe that's why i feel comfortable with it.

however... I agree on the 3rd boss, when you miss one hook.

it could mean a wipe

[young swan]

sv definitely the worst with gb

[runic violet]

I just finished +8 sv... fucking horrible

[summer quail]

on what key range tho?

[runic violet]

6~8... I timed 8

[young swan]

even if u kill edna and skarm ur group is just gonna get skull fucked on machinists

[runic violet]

sv is going to be equally.. if not more horrifying in fortified :0

[summer quail]

necrotic wake on a 10 is rough or manageable depending on dps. i tank alot of keys but that one i dps, just coz i don't trust others to do enough damage

[serene vessel]

man i wish pets didn't block hooks on NW tho

[runic violet]

fucking hook mechanic is dumb

sometimes u can't see shit because so much spells going out.

[south kayak]

it's so dumb how a mechanic wants you to kill the shards fast but then killing the mtoo fast wipes you

...

so much fucking bullshit inSV

2 bosses fight..

[runic violet]

Most of groups fall apart there

[summer quail]

only done stonevault on an 8 i think, machinists were fine. tho i can see that changing in higher keys

[runic violet]

it feels like doing mythic raiding with 5 ppl lol

[south kayak]

machinists are fine but it seems like a lot of people just odn't fucking know hwo the fight works

[sullen dove]

insane how 2 middle bosses are pretty hard

then the last boss is a fuckin joke

healer is optional

[south kayak]

LMAO indeed

[runic violet]

last boss is pretty easy on mechanic... but the circle pop still fucks

[spiral orbit]

feels like shard guy has way too much hp and even when you get the sheidl buff the shield doesnt die too fast.

[young swan]

if u dont kill them perfectly together u wipe, if u miss an interrupt u wipe, if you get bad orb spawns you wipe, if your tank doesnt move correctly u wipe

it is a bad fucking boss

[sullen dove]

guy should just not cast 50 miles away when he moves a box

rest is like reasonable mechanics at least

[south kayak]

boss had like 2% hp left when the otehr one died and everyone fucking died except the tank which killed the boss alone

[runic violet]

yea the window of killing together is way too narrow

[summer quail]

we found out that if you clear all orbs but one on purpose you prevent the bad overlap

was not on purpose finding out ofcourse

[serene vessel]

bad orb spawns?

[south kayak]

Are you talking about hte entire dungeon?

[south kayak]

I assume he's talking about the orbs affix

[serene vessel]

oh

[sullen dove]

🥱 good timeout skyhold bot thanks

anyway

[south kayak]

They can spawn on the other side

[sullen dove]

they like exclusively spawn on players

but if you have to move for a box or something and it happens right then yeah can suck

[south kayak]

yeah but there's movement in that fight

[serene vessel]

yeah it means someoen was out of position

[south kayak]

you have to move all the way to other side on exhaust

the difference between dungeons like mists/ara and SV is fuckign hilarious

[serene vessel]

ur not wrong, but maybe I'm just lucky because I almost always play with a shaman

[south kayak]

please nerf this shit

[sullen dove]

aside from shit affix overlap on that front if boss just didnt cast aoe 1shot from 50 miles away when he leaps out it'd almost be a reasonable boss

[serene vessel]

and they can incap totem from range

[sullen dove]

like what happens if u have 5 melee comp

get fucked ig

[south kayak]

just reflect it

[sullen dove]

better pop bubble

[south kayak]

4head

you can reflect that btw

if someone didn't know

not that it matters lmao

[sullen dove]

the 50 ton box sliding over you?

[south kayak]

no, the cast

[runic violet]

what do u reflect?

[smoky vale]

i think its possible to leap charge kick it but its such a small window

molten something

[south kayak]

the cast the dwarf does

[smoky vale]

the big cast

[south kayak]

deflect more like

it doesn't do damage on the boss

[runic violet]

u mean the one that slows everyone down?

[smoky vale]

yes

[young swan]

yeah if u spawn orbs at the wrong time ur fucked

[runic violet]

it should be kicked.

[young swan]

no just machinists

[runic violet]

so everyone can move to a safe vent.

[fiery hare]

Every boss that has 103938839 swirlies that leave poop on the floor so melee have to dodge thr fkin minefield meanwhile ranged are just chillin

[south kayak]

what do you think of skarmorak

can't believe we get our bis 2 trinkets from the 2 worst dungeons

giga nerf

[serene vessel]

if ur running a 5 melee comp and u dont have a shaman I thinkt hats just a comp issue tbh

[steep geyser]

I'm a dumb dk who is now fury war. Should we put a different enchant on each weapon like DK or just depths on both

[young swan]

its fine

its hard but its not unfair

machinists is just straight up unfair

[south kayak]

just don't kill all shards immedaitely giga gg

[runic violet]

kill shards every 3 sec

or maybe 4?

[young swan]

u can kill them 1 at a time and wait for the debuff to drop and be fine

[runic violet]

no big deal for warrior as we are pretty mobile

[south kayak]

hard to decide in a pug

everyone just goes everywhere

and tags any mob

[frank dawn]

those hoes are brutal

[runic violet]

tank should lead on the target.

[rotund ginkgo]

as god intended

still on the arakara grind

[south kayak]

based

slayer?

[rotund ginkgo]

real

and true

[south kayak]

or thane

[rotund ginkgo]

slayer

[south kayak]

ok

[young swan]

its literally just a raid boss in a dungeon lmfao

[rotund ginkgo]

did anything happen in the past couple days that we go thane?

[south kayak]

no, im just coping

[sinful glen]

does the sacbrood just not sim well?

[south kayak]

i play thane in m+ sometimes

[rotund ginkgo]

huh

[sinful glen]

sim is always telling me to unequip it

[frank dawn]

if you're overloaded on haste and have some of the other good trinkets maybe?

[fickle wharf]

Ascension is the best embelish for weapon ?

[summer quail]

yes

[sinful glen]

might be, this is the sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ochPvgjCV2AugnRUUfa7hc

honestly i have been playing healer my whole life, so im fairly new to simming

[frank dawn]

I'm now more curious how it's telling you to wear fang over sacbrood

I thought fang was garbage

[sinful glen]

same o_O

[frank dawn]

lol

[summer quail]

gear prob just too low

[sullen nexus]

just got a fang this morning, someone please go test this out for us lol

[sinful glen]

yeah probably just for the strength

[astral path]

anyone have the mythic+ gold carry disc? im so poor

[sinful glen]

just go for the sacbrood either way?

[frank dawn]

there's a tempered flask for all the stats (crit/haste/etc) so if you have a mastery flask on for example

the potion will give you crit/haste/vers

if you use that other flask that's not tempered, then the potion gives you all 4 stats

[white stream]

615 prot warrior 2300+ IO

people have something against prot?

[runic violet]

damn...

[torpid sand]

doing mythics this season as a warrior has been a really bad experience, not gonna lie

[dusky glen]

I am a bit confused by the rotation priority list. It says use execute with 3 stacks of marked, but also says "use execute on cooldown" is there something I am missing?

[torpid sand]

i thought last season was bad, but this season is even worse

[runic violet]

it's not as bad as most of DF seasons.

[white stream]

worse than on df somehow, im getting way more invites with my pally lol

[white stream]

worse than last season

[lament hinge]

retri is very strong

[torpid sand]

far far worse than last season

[white stream]

im trying to get invited as a tank with 615 ilvl 2300 io for the past 30 minutes on +7

and nothing

its just wtf l

[runic violet]

My goal was to hit 2200+ this week... im pretty satisfied so far.

[lament hinge]

612 fury and i barely get into +7

[fickle cedar]

🤓 ☝️ you should start your own groups (im jk)

[torpid sand]

i am

no one joins

[lament hinge]

kek

[fickle cedar]

ye its rough

[runic violet]

I remember getting rejected like 100 times before any invite back in df

[white stream]

my 605 ret get invited on +8 easily

same as 608 dh

[runic violet]

what's better with ret? other than brez

[lament hinge]

sustained aoe is better

far better

[white stream]

sustained aoe way better

burst at every pack

30 sec cd burst

[runic violet]

agreed... "sustained"

[fickle cedar]

ret is kinda broken on m+ tbh, insane range damage and utility

[white stream]

offheal when think get nasty, brez, bop, imune

cant even compare

[runic violet]

warrior is pretty good on its own I think.... ppl just not aware.

[lament hinge]

nerf ret

[white stream]

not as good

having worse sustained dmg than ret and way worse utility

no reason to bring a warrior over a ret

[torpid sand]

^

[runic violet]

4 skills to free self... great burst... aoe fear, aoe stun, target stun.

[broken kindle]

fury feels insane but outside of any CDS, feels kinda weird

[fickle cedar]

on keys 9> frost and ret are better imo

[white stream]

no build uses aoe fear currently so yeah

pally also has target stun

[lament hinge]

outside cds fury is just dog💩

[smoky vale]

ret has blind bop dispell immue bres -2% damage sac freedom hammer

[white stream]

exactly this

while ret has its burst every 30 sec

[smoky vale]

how is that in anyway comparable

[white stream]

its legit insane

[low folio]

man i hate blizzard making siege of boralus mechanics overlap in bullshit ways

[torpid sand]

to make it worse, our tier set is pure garbage

one of the worst things i have ever seen

[white stream]

thats why warriors should do more dmg than a ret

only reason to bring one

[runic violet]

I have only one alt that's ret... it's just not fun to play ret

[white stream]

fun is subjective

you know what its not fun?

waiting to get invited

lol

[lament hinge]

change fury set to increase raging blow damage instead pls

[young swan]

some people like waiting in line

[clever belfry]

quick boe farm

10min in

[young swan]

lol

[lament hinge]

kek

[thorny shoal]

i keep forgetting the mythic ones are bop now

[runic violet]

I have 593 ret... how high M+ should I apply

[radiant plank]

hc dungeon

[lament hinge]

+7

[runic violet]

lol no

[white stream]

literally playing waiting menu clicking its what makes me stop playing wow sometimes lol

[runic sphinx]

Im struggling against heroic blood twister Orivax. My damage is staying up but holy hell all the swirlies/ add control etc its hard to keep up around everything going on. Does anyone have any tips besides for just get good? Lol

[lament hinge]

ull get in, trust

[runic violet]

bruh... orivax.. it's all about parsing 😄

send them odyn on parasites

[runic sphinx]

I was rocking spear but odyn definitely seems the better of the two on that fight

[young swan]

find a warrior PoV to watch for the fight and emulate what they do or comb through logs

ur only there to make sure the adds perish

keep that in mind

[runic violet]

u need the parasites gone asap anyways.. it's a mechanic. go full aoe

[ember apex]

did someone say AoE

[runic sphinx]

Should i just completely ignore boss (for the most part) and just act like a blender at all times? I find myself trying to do it all and end up sticking on boss longer than i should or interrupting worms instead of in the clump of adds

[young swan]

main target the boss but never send your cd's for him specifically

[south kayak]

Outlaw is stupid, insane boss damage and cleave

[runic violet]

adds need to die quick for stability of the raid.

[south kayak]

but we get nerfed

ok

[ember apex]

rogues aren't even playing fucken outlaw either lmao

[runic violet]

focus on adds and then go on the boss whenever possible

[ember apex]

with the exception of Xyveza, this might be the best raid they've ever done

no cap

[south kayak]

no, has fury nerfs in it

[young swan]

ovinax in the raid

[south kayak]

bad raid

[young swan]

and u think kyveza is the problem

[runic violet]

I did pretty well on kyveza somehow.. maybe my pug sucked

[ember apex]

ovinax is a great boss OTHER THAN the color of swirlies + room floor when covered

[south kayak]

specs like fdk arcane mages, enhancements and rogues exist and we nerf fury

[sullen dove]

ya ppl whining about kyveza tuning when they're 17 ilvls under max attainable

[south kayak]

dumbass changes

[ember apex]

ovinax does have some problems

[sullen dove]

shit will be a joke dpswise in 2 weeks from now

[ember apex]

but not that big and it's a great boss despite its' flaws

[sullen dove]

broodtwister egg moment still gonna be a bit cring probably

[runic violet]

breaking wrong eggs in pug... yea

[runic sphinx]

Okay, so even on pull i keep all cd’s? It seems like i have about 15secs left on bladestorm by the times eggs hatch so i can usually hit the adds towards them being around 1/3 health

[sullen dove]

remember this is coming from carlo whose top picks for bosses of all time is aoe pad phases of major fights

[ember apex]

i hope it's just mainly a ranged mechanic on mythic or u can spell reflect the application of that effect

[runic sphinx]

The swirlies are killing me that big bitch covers most of my screen lol

[young swan]

the issue is ilvl gain is very small week over week cause crest budget + extra upgrades on myth track

[ember apex]

why do u remember this

[sullen dove]

it was that cooked

cant forget

[ember apex]

well whatever in any case

i stand by my statement

[young swan]

what mechanic

[ember apex]

this is the best raid in wow ever

[ember apex]

the one that breaks the eggs

[young swan]

its not

[ember apex]

i know

but im Prayge

[sullen dove]

yea i mean itll still take a bit of time but like the top bar is there it exists, even 1 more week of gearing next week and 1 tank prolly unnecessary anymore

[young swan]

no i mean i can literally say for a fact

its not a primarily ranged mechanic

and you cant spell reflect it

[cedar depot]

which one of these are you guys running for m+?

[sullen dove]

yeah let me spell reflect one of the 8 applications

of which you need all 8 to hit

and if you dont have 1 debuff then you wipe because you dont spawn an egg

[ember apex]

left talent is bait, the right one increases ur dps

[sullen dove]

what is blud saying

[young swan]

ive been running culling cyclone cause its more ST

[sullen dove]

left talent single target dmg right talent aoe dmg

[trail tendon]

yo fellas

[ember apex]

what

[trail tendon]

in an ideal world, which 4 tier pieces do we want

[sullen dove]

everything but helmet i think

[ember apex]

the waarrior ones

[sullen dove]

but like thats 639 every bis gear

so just sim

[young swan]

yeah the issue is that theres 268 guilds hard walled on ovinax and then they're gonna get hard walled on kyveza

that number is only going to grow

and thats fine if its penultimate or last boss

[sullen dove]

the guilds walled on ovi cuz of mechs are prolly gonna have an easier time on ky with 5 more ilvls

not that ky mechs dont exist

[young swan]

but this is 5 and 6

[sullen dove]

but the issues liq and them had this week do not exist in subsequent weeks

[young swan]

the issue is how long those issues take to go away

and they arent gonna go away fast enough

[sullen dove]

ya just how much ilvl u get week by week who knows

maybe 2 or 3

[young swan]

ur just gonna have another tindral situation

except instead of the 2nd last boss its on 5/6

[ember apex]

i haven't progged mythic yet, just got aotc last night, but this raid (so far) is looking to be unironically best ever or at least top 3 (excluding xyveza)

[south kayak]

Nerfs to fury were fine but now we need a buff to our rotational abilities like ramapge/bt/cb/execute, WW cleave damage and not cds so we can actually keep up with others after our fucking burst

[ember apex]

for me and how i rank things

[young swan]

I like this raid

first boss sucks

9 min first boss

hehexd

[ember apex]

first boss def sucks

[sullen dove]

tindral both had insane hard mechs and a very small gap between kill ilvl and "most people" kill ilvl

they did it at like 482 or3

majority of guilds hitting ky r gonna be like 635

[ember apex]

tindral was a great boss

[young swan]

i dont think so

[ember apex]

i didnt like the little bomb mechanic thing

[south kayak]

are they gonna do more tuning passes?

[young swan]

cause the first 4 are actually just piss easy

[south kayak]

shit like fdk aint it

[ember apex]

i cant believe frost dk just gets to exist how it is

[young swan]

i wouldnt be surprised if the # of guilds on ovi doubled next week

[ember apex]

meanwhile we're LANGUISHING w/ these fucking nerfs

[bitter palm]

ye first 4 are really fucking piss

[young swan]

prob not until after the race ends

[ember apex]

u guys know that spellslinger arcane mage hero talent thing

w/ the focus macro

[sullen dove]

ya got patchedf in like 2 hours

[ember apex]

what is the slayer fury equivalent of that, i want something like that

[bitter palm]

arms

[ember apex]

arms is for kids

[bitter palm]

boomie goat

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[ember apex]

idk who that is

[regal grotto]

A dude with arms

[bitter palm]

absolute cinema

[south kayak]

so i have to suffer like this for a week?

[ember apex]

its cinema.gif??

[velvet canopy]

That's John Cinema himself

[ember apex]

11.0.5 are gonna completely eff up tuning btw

[young swan]

there isnt really one, the closest was prob when unhinged cleaved and you could proc reap the storm on every BT consistently in aoe

[south kayak]

buff fury

[young swan]

but thats just intended interaction

[ember apex]

unhinged doesnt cleave now?

[south kayak]

we need damage after burst

[ember apex]

yeah ur right

i always have my ww stacks

[young swan]

no joke if you got lucky reap the storm would outdamage or equal BS damage

[south kayak]

me after burst

buff reap, buff rampage

ww cleave to 75%

[ember apex]

bro we're just constantly being CURB-STOMPED by these devs

[south kayak]

real

75% ww cleave is not op

[ember apex]

ww cleave to 75% is a great idea

[sullen dove]

heroic broodtwister pugs man...

[south kayak]

not just that, buff all rotational abilities

[sullen dove]

THIS boss is what actually needs nerfs

[haughty lichen]

can someone explain to me how shared hp bosses dmg works? do i get more dmg by doing aoe to them or nah?

[ember apex]

i cant imagine pugging this shi

[sullen dove]

yeah

[summer quail]

yes

[ember apex]

that's gonna be a nightmare

how are u gonna pug aotc ansurek

that's crazy to think about

[sullen dove]

pretty easily once ppl are 625+

[haughty lichen]

is it just straight up doubling my dmg on them?

[sullen dove]

but also just buncha time

[sullen dove]

if your damage on two targets is double single target yes, but most classes arent like that

for instance arms sweeping strikes is like 75% on second target or something

but even still 175% damage of your abilities hitting bosses together

[ember apex]

arms needs to be the absolute GOAT at 2-target

[sullen dove]

those kinds of bosses also typically have a lot more hp each

to make up for it sorta splitting

[ember apex]

fury should be the goat at 5 target but now we have a bunch of uncapped shit so idk anymore

[sullen dove]

as in it is "expected" you do a lot of cleave cause if you just single target one or the other it takes way longer

[delicate yacht]

can both weapons get authority of the depths + vambrace doubling? so 2x suffocating darkness x2 ?

[south kayak]

damn everyone straight up ignoring how bad we've been fucked

[ember apex]

💯

[sullen dove]

notice the second boss in city of threads has like 500mil hp when other bosses have like 300m

[ember apex]

the twin boss?

[sullen dove]

ya

[young swan]

fuckers had 700m in my 10

[sullen dove]

suffer

[ember apex]

b/c u double dipping on ur abilities thats why

[sullen dove]

icicles hurt too much

rest of that boss is chill

[young swan]

u basically just double all damage dealt

[ember apex]

crazy how technical keys are now too

like stonevault bosses

[young swan]

its very epical

[final birch]

it just fucking sucks you get like negative uptime as melee

[ember apex]

epical?

[sullen dove]

yea\

[young swan]

u can bait them into the wall and they just wont dash

have fun

[ember apex]

how do u do taht

[final birch]

I think we did that and they dashed

idk

gotta try again

ig

[ember apex]

just stand on the wall?

[young swan]

u have to be close to the wall

[ember apex]

all 5 ppl?

[young swan]

if they're gonna dash out of the arena they just

wont do it

[ember apex]

this is good game abuse tips

u have more?

[young swan]

nope

[ember apex]

fugg alright

[south kayak]

ww should hit 8 targets for 70% damage

[ember apex]

well ty for this

[south kayak]

what's the name of the pot

for main stat

[ember apex]

yes

algari potion of inflicted wounds

(i just made ethat up btw)

[south kayak]

lmao

i noticed

[ember apex]

who won the last rwf?

it was echo right?

[sullen dove]

yea

[ember apex]

alright im rooting for liquid or method

or anyone else

[sullen dove]

method like shockingly v close this time

[ember apex]

i hope they win

[sullen dove]

think there were like 1 step or 2 behind the top 2 last time

[ember apex]

then liquid my 2nd choice

[sullen dove]

but they like right on the heels

[ember apex]

i just dont want the same team to win over and over

if method won i'd be very happy and it would make the rwf more compelling

[sullen dove]

huoguo heros fans unite

mythic boe splitfarm legends

[ember apex]

wat

[young swan]

i want echo to win

revves goat

[ember apex]

echo won last time

[young swan]

yes

[sullen dove]

bazeface clears revvez

[ember apex]

we need new winners

[sullen dove]

any day of the week

[young swan]

but revves goat

also max losing is a dub

[frank dawn]

why you hating on our NA lad

[young swan]

then he gets to waffle about it for a couple days of stream content

[sullen dove]

xan strongest max hater

[ember apex]

if u just have the same team winning over and over its very uninteresting

[sullen dove]

xam but backwards

[ember apex]

F1 had this problem

UFC had this problem w/ jon jones

etc...

u want diff winners

[young swan]

echo and method should just rotate winning until max drops out through sheer despair

[ember apex]

to make it competitive

[sullen dove]

tru eu cucks only

die na players die

[ember apex]

ur just a hater, u should want like 5 teams working on the last boss at sub 5% pulls

[young swan]

ideally yeah

[sullen dove]

(half eu)

[young swan]

would be epic

but it'll never happen

[ember apex]

yeah and if method won that'd make rwf more competitive

so thats what i want

if i cant have that

i want liquid to win

b/c they didnt win most recently

the more competition the more exciting it is to watch

[young swan]

i will never want liquid to win while max is in the guild

[clever belfry]

so true king

[young swan]

i say this as a team liquid fan boy

[ember apex]

ok well ur just hating for hating's sake

[clever belfry]

arthur hater #1

[summer quail]

wtf that's huge. thank you

[young swan]

definitely not for hatings sake, i have good reason to not like max

[ember apex]

what

[young swan]

im not gonna get into that here

[sullen dove]

big hotdogzilla fan

[ember apex]

ok

[sullen dove]

details guldan name

[clever belfry]

i very much doubt its about that

[ember apex]

well ur free not to explain but it still looks a little coocoo tbh

[buoyant salmon]

i like when liquid wins bc when echo wins it feels like the rwf is dead

[clever belfry]

its hypocritical, but sticking that years old shit on someone doesnt matter

really

[buoyant salmon]

idk how to explain it

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[ember apex]

this gif again

[trail viper]

this UI design is assss

[ember apex]

intern side project, assigned thursday afternoon, due friday by end of business

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cowl-cowls-gif-2563789475502710348

[ember apex]

is this one of those harry potter birds

[sullen dove]

an owl?

[ember apex]

wtf is owl

yes owl

just looked it up

yeah

[subtle cypress]

Edit just wanted to say thanks guys - t8 fury delves (particularly spiral weaver) is pretty dang easy and im only ilvl 580. Feel like i might even be able to do a 9

[young swan]

yo what the fuck is this addon

[scarlet swift]

lies, do it 3 days ago when it was overtuned

[young swan]

this shit is OP

[ember apex]

is that MRT

that looks like a modded GUI for mrt

idk

tho

[young swan]

i thought it might be

[bitter palm]

hoooly

[young swan]

but my MRT does NOT look like that

bro has a draggable timeline where he can just add notes

[fervent yoke]

Isn’t that the one liquid used in their alert shit?

[young swan]

yeah

i want it

[bitter palm]

join liquid

[young swan]

no

[bitter palm]

and raid with max as ur rl

joke don't ban me

[ember apex]

i wish i knew why some ppl dont like that guy i dont get it

[young swan]

[fervent yoke]

Warriors have too many buttons

[ember apex]

bssically everyone in rwf is at least semi-likeable imo

[fervent yoke]

I press no more than two zug zugs

[gilded pawn]

thats not true

i dont like tmy

or rafkar

[tribal flint]

What keybind do you guys have your Zug and Zug set to?

[gilded pawn]

they hate me

[ember apex]

what happened to ratfkar

[gilded pawn]

they wont play league with me

[lost elbow]

anyone here actually tryin thane?

[bitter palm]

i dont like tmy either he has 1049 gold caps and didnt want to buy me authority of depths r3 week 1 for 300k

[young swan]

tried it on mythic ovi last night and didnt like it

[lost elbow]

ovi need some burst prob thats why, what about m+?

[subtle cypress]

Are there diminishing returns for running the same delve over and over or just luck of roll type stuff

[young swan]

thane has higher burst

it peaks higher than slayer does

i just dont like it

[bitter palm]

biggest misconception i swear

thane bursts so fucking hard

[south kayak]

and sustains higher than slayer

xdd

[ember apex]

reallllllly

[south kayak]

thane buff waiting room

for st

[young swan]

dont like thane

[ember apex]

as the admiral of aoe i need to know theset hings

[young swan]

cringe spec

[south kayak]

i don't like u

[bitter palm]

clappa good

[ember apex]

i really wish slayer had more inherent haste

[young swan]

cant spend my procs when I get them

cringe

bad

[bitter palm]

funny spec

dont take damage spec

[sullen dove]

number 1 thane fan

suddenly becomes thane hater after playing it

quizzical

[young swan]

looked cool

played it

not cool

[tribal flint]

mountain thane basically turns fury into a ret paladin change my mind

[ember apex]

the problem is u never see anyone elses animations so when someone is popping off u never know about it

[young swan]

yeah except u do 0 prio/ST damage

[ember apex]

unless its the warlock w/ the green bolts

shotgunning across ur screen

[south kayak]

fury needs more damageo utside of cds

[sullen dove]

funny trinket

[south kayak]

i prefer non burst

[ember apex]

i do too

i prefer consistency

[velvet obsidian]

Fury needs more damage outside of perfectly aligned small add spawn windows in raid

[rotund ginkgo]

hmmge

based

[sullen dove]

why even have a healer

[spare steppe]

It’s a fun trinket

[rotund ginkgo]

10% stam

:kekw

[weary sail]

anoyne know what these two arrows on the side of my character are? how do i edit / disable them

[shrewd oak]

guys how dps gain is offhand compared to mainhand? they have same damage gain?

[young swan]

graphical indicator that u can press rampage

[young swan]

off hand is less

[radiant plank]

this to 0 if u dont want to see

[young swan]

^

[velvet obsidian]

Tells you you can rampage. It's misleading, you wanna just raging blow anyways unless you need enrage

[shrewd oak]

i see. can u estimate how much more? like double or triple ?

[weary sail]

ty vm

[young swan]

sim stat weights and look at weapon dps

[woven flume]

Hey lads, quick question about crafting Wep as Fury. Is it the same to craft 2hSword or 2hAxe? 2hAxe is cheaper but all top warrs in M+ crafter 2hSword. Thanks!

[warm crag]

as long as it is 2h and str its fine

i crafted a halberd

[woven flume]

Alright! Thanks!

[shrewd oak]

okay. just one more thing. the weapon damage on it will increase damage of abilities as well? or only its strength matters for ability damage

[ember apex]

craft whichever mog you need

[clever belfry]

private

[young swan]

gg

[clever belfry]

think it was originally developed for pescorous?

[young swan]

that shit looks so OP man

[young swan]

not sure of how its calculated but im pretty sure wep damage is taken into account for AP

[wicked dew]

Can you spell reflect the water debuff on final boss in Siege of Boralus?

[sullen dove]

doubt it

think wouldve chanced it happening by now

[young swan]

nope

[wicked dew]

damn

that fight is so ass

just trying to find some way to make it easier

[young swan]

def a contender for worst fight of the season

[sullen dove]

Not like hard just constant knock backs every 10 seconds for no reason annoying as shit

esp if you have heavy melee and healer trigger finger dispels insta and tank is other side of the boss pond

W shit

[shrewd oak]

okay thanks

[summer quail]

it's okay

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-kanne-lawine-frieren-run-gif-4721941853177088146

[young swan]

viqqgoth, tred'ova, machinists

all hot ASS

[sullen dove]

Invisible puddles on tred are horrendous

[south kayak]

tredova is very annoying lmao

[sullen dove]

also fucking hate that thing blizz does with ground effects where stutter stepping in and out of them when you move ticks every time you step on it newly

So can just take like 5 ticks in 1 second trying to run away

just give it icd of actual tick time man…

[south kayak]

the poison puddles do too much damage

the ticks need to be nerfed

the fucking hit already kills you

why are puddles so deadly

[tidal kindle]

You can

Timing is just weird

Cuz you have to reflect before cast goes off and reflect has to last entire travel time

I can not consistently do it

[young swan]

what the fuck lol

[buoyant salmon]

wait what

[tidal kindle]

Ive done it like twice?

Maybe 3x

[buoyant salmon]

i tried to do that but ig i griefed it a couple times in a row

and thought it was impossible

[tidal kindle]

Its so cringe that I just use it for dr now

[sullen dove]

Does boss not have a cast time

It’s just instant right

[warm crag]

do you have to go closer to boss or

[buoyant salmon]

its instant yeah

[sullen dove]

rely on timers poggers

basically same as any tank taunt reflect insta cast ability

minus waiting for travel time..

[mellow bloom]

red man says " i got big"

and he really had BIG

insane

[south kayak]

CDS on heroic ovinax immediately? or first eggs

Do you guys use cds immediately on ovinaxx on hc

[steady badge]

sry for the dumb question where the talents recommended for pve ?

[summer quail]

#dps-faq

[steady badge]

gotcha

mb

[south kayak]

do you guys send cds on ovinaxx or wait for first egg

[serene vessel]

its basically just uldaman 3rd boss all over again

[young swan]

h or m

[south kayak]

h

[young swan]

doesnt really matter actually

i send OF and hold everything else

[serene vessel]

is the putrid waters on sob a reflect or a deflect tho

thats the real question

[grizzled lion]

Guys honest question, i keep ripping aggro from tanks. My fault for popping instant on pull or theirs for not being able to hold aggro?

[serene vessel]

both

but play around it

as shitty as it is we're jsut super front loaded

[grizzled lion]

i mean i have played with tanks that have 0 issue

[serene vessel]

yeah but heres the god honest truth for u

[grizzled lion]

but blood dk's for some reason cant hold aggro

[serene vessel]

who cares if its the tanks fault or not

make it owrk

[grizzled lion]

yeah

im just thinking of what i can do

[serene vessel]

go night elf and shadowmeld

thats what I do lmao

charge ava roar shadowmeld into rampage bladestorm

[hushed trench]

How the fuck is it possible that I can't get a single invite to any mythic that's 6 and above? Fucking 1950 rating and 610 ilvl.

Anyone else dealing with this shit?

[ember apex]

brother im 613 and 2200, same issue

[frank dawn]

10000 dps sign up for any key

And a lot of them have better stats than Carlo even

[ember apex]

it was actually worse when we werent meta, now we're semi-meta and still

[hallow cipher]

anyone got weakaura for 4 set ?

[frank dawn]

Don’t track it

[dry hawk]

Is it easier to just go tank and set loot spec to arms for us

[pearl sequoia]

do your own keys, only way ur getting into 9s+ unless ur giga score and ilvl

or play in team if u have one

🤷

[hushed trench]

Shit is fucking insane.

[echo stump]

Not sure about being "semi-meta"

[somber ocean]

anybody crafted their 636 weapon yet to find you can't upgrade other 2h's without crests?

[hushed trench]

I just spent 40 minutes trying to get into a group. Holy fuck, guarantee half these dudes are going to brick their own fucking key too

[ember apex]

we are in terms of raw damage at least

have u lost in overall in any key all expac

no. exactly

[pearl sequoia]

yea ret pally

[ember apex]

plus we can solo affix

[fickle cedar]

every spec can solo affix

[ember apex]

we have aoe fear shockwave etc... for affix

and stops

its not the best shit in the game

that's why i said semi-meta

top 3 dps in keys + can deal w/ season affix

[covert void]

you get in 9s just needs patience and a lot of applying. Always been the case for us.

[hushed trench]

A 9?! I can't even get into a 6

[ember apex]

u can always push ur own key up to a 10 and no-leaver a 10 w/ ur guild

[covert void]

well, just warriors in general (unless you're ridiculously high score)

always takes patience and applying to a lot.

[hushed trench]

Yeah I mean I have a squad I do m+ with which is why I never really realized how bad pugging was. This shit is crazy

[ember apex]

ok ur prob also applying to the wrong groups

use the filter

no warrior, has healer, has tank, has dps spot available

[wicked dew]

Does the spear debuff from Necrotic Wake stack or do you have to stagger it?

[ember apex]

filter out all the riff-raff

[warm crag]

it says in the tooltip that it stacks or

[wicked dew]

gotcha, didn't have one in the last run so I couldnt read it myself. ty

[covert void]

dps spot and no warrior I tick, I leave the healer / tank ones free. you get into those at times even if you have to wait a bit after for one

[hushed trench]

Nah I mean I'm paying attention. Like I'm not applying to comps that already have two melee dps and all that. It's just brain dead group leaders sitting at 700 rating that want to be hard carried

[covert void]

as said above it's more that there's just a ridiculous amount of dps that apply.

[warm crag]

idk push up keys with guildies until people let you in quickly or

[ember apex]

i just like to reduce the amount of time i spend wiating

[covert void]

whenever you get in a group click on the group sign up and see yourself lol

[ember apex]

so i dont apply to groups w/o tank and healer already

[wicked dew]

this is your DPS competition for 9s

so you need to outgear or outscore them to stand out at all

[covert void]

it's genuinely just persistence, lots of applying.

[restive pewter]

657 hunter

[sour frigate]

So many wws nowadays ffs

[hushed trench]

I mean that doesn't seem that crazy for 9s on average

[pearl sequoia]

yea if ur not already doing 9s with relevant score you are behind the curve, just push ur key

[meager void]

GB is aids tho, other 9s are more forgiving on io

[wicked dew]

can confirm, just depleted 9 GB

I have several timed 10s

[hushed trench]

Yeah I guess I'm still somehow behind the curve. Shit is wild god damn

[covert void]

isn't about what dungeon it is, it's that no matter what key you apply for at 9/10 there's a ridiculous amount of competiton

isn't personal to you been a warrior really

sometimes it is but eh

[meager void]

The competition is on the colored numbers side tho

[crisp bronze]

Plus war is good for getting the ascension buff just wait till mdi

[weary sail]

whats ur rating and ilvl? the competition is hard nowadays

[meager void]

For no 3k is competition for a 3.3-3 4k unless leader is dumb

[hushed trench]

610/1957

I'm applying for like 6-7s though lol

Zero fucking invites

[weary sail]

ive seen so many 615s / 2200 when pugging +7-9s

people are damn geared

[covert void]

if you're solo pugging it's just how it's been for a very long time.

[hushed trench]

Jesus christ

[short crypt]

many people are 615-620 in queue

[weary sail]

yesterday i did a +7 and a 618 join and said thx god finally he got accepted

its rough as DPS

[hushed trench]

How the fuck are so many people so geared already?

[short crypt]

used crest / craft

[weary sail]

but ye unfortunately 610 is just average atm

[crisp bronze]

Gotta be smart where you're applying if they already have 1 melee or even a plate melee you chances drop on avg. Most groups are making sure at the least lust and brez are covered.

[wicked dew]

what is this guy cooking

[weary sail]

and pugs want to get the highest possible ilvl

[hushed trench]

I guess I'm fucked

[weary sail]

also, this expansion has 100000 melees, DK ret war rogue enh shaman DH

all good

its rough

[devout totem]

even for a +13 typo it's huge

[covert void]

true. even then it can take applying to 20/30 keys sometimes.

welcome to pug lyf.

[wicked dew]

lol I think it's just supposed to be a 3

[weary sail]

either start tanking, or find a group of friends

[devout totem]

i hope so xdd

[weary sail]

pugging as average ilvl / rating is rough

[covert void]

I like the chaotic nature of pugs. when you get a really good group it's satisfying. the mix of shite and good.

is a wild ride lol

[weary sail]

well thats why as pug, the only thing u can judge people on is rating / ilvl /their class. Thats why its hard to get into group if ur just average

[covert void]

you do sometimes need someone to take a chance on you for you to show you're good though. there's definitely break points.

[dry hawk]

My 600 ilvl 400io having ass can't even form a group lol

[weary sail]

if u pugging ur own key, u wouldnt take a chance on someone 1500 rating / 605 ilvl for ur +9

and u know it lol

[covert void]

well, yeh that's low ofc.

[spare flame]

question for yall M+ connoisseurs, do you send bladestorm on CD and (therefore) desync it from other cds or save it to use with odyn or avatar/reck?

[crisp bronze]

@dry hawk not true I pugged my 4 mists the other day XD

[covert void]

but you can time 9/10's have a great score, good ilvl and still not get the invite lol but that's how it is.

[weary sail]

plus, evertime i start a group as tank, half the DPS are goddamn fury warr haha

so many fury warr this expansion

[covert void]

yeh lots of fury about. also why I tick the 'has warrior'

even though it'll hide groups with prot where you could get an inv.

this is something 0.1%'ers don't really see. So when there's nerfs or calls for lust, or more utility for affixes in the past it can effect people in this situation a lot. If we had lust that would be huge.

[dry hawk]

Lucky my +4Nw cant find anyone

[white stream]

why ppl dislike SoB?

its so sweet

[covert void]

actually surprised how much I've grown to like it. thought I'd hate it.

[pearl sequoia]

its on same level of free as mists i feel

[restive granite]

help, is there a way to tell if someone is griefing the Anserak puddles?

on p1

[white stream]

i legit rather do 3x sob than mist

[summer quail]

wtf they removed add damage on rashanan from logs

bruh my pad

[restive pewter]

wait what

Imagine they do the same thing to broodtwister

[pearl sequoia]

🤓 akshuly its about boss damage

[restive pewter]

Take cleave>top dps> parse a 74

[smoky vale]

it hasnt been 15 seconds btw

[restive pewter]

Time to take st for rash

[smoky vale]

this is what forming a group is like

[ember apex]

no shot

[young swan]

they did